It goes both ways. A one-time boss of mine used to say that the chance of a bit of prototype kit working as intended was in inverse proportion to the number, and rank, of the visitors invited to see it.
Hi Dave & Nige, great to see another gem from you pair, that disclaimer at the beginning is pure genius humour, I am surprised that no one else appears to have commented on it. Regards from Ray the old bugger from North Wales
Another great video Dave 👍 Thats certainly one i havent had before, an RCD tripping when the toilet is flushed ! 😂 As soon as I saw that soil pipe though I immediately thought it was Rat damage like others have mentioned, seen it a few times before on jobs, I’m surprised you didn’t think of that. My bet would be the rat has also chewed that faulty cable you found 🤔 Look forward to the next vid
Nice to see you both again, all part of an electricians life as they say. O such memories , still a problem yet to be found on that job I fear . Modern test gear has at least made life a bit easier , having just a mega was rather less productive but again there would be no RCD to trip in the first place . Happy days a. Best wishes to you both and kind regards 😀👍👍👍
Mr Savery posts a video, well that's tonight's entertainment sorted. How the hell do you not smell all that turd water in your kitchen.😁 Great stuff as always.
I was surprised there seemed to be no solids down there. I think that loo just happened to be used for tinkles which is fortunate but still not what you want sloshed over your kitchen floor.
been watching lots of your vids and I just can't help but comment, even thought it's now two years on but I felt the need to pipe up; I was thinking that you guys really looked flushed with pride after solving the loopy, leaking loo. I hope the job wasn't too draining.
I’m glad it’s not just me that gets the shit jobs! Thanks for sharing, looking forward to part 2, I think you need to get Phil over for this one David.
I think if I lived in that property, the prospect of having to take a large section of the kitchen out would be motivation enough to ask the plumber to find a better way to couple the pan to the drain. That flexi was always a problem waiting to happen, situated where it is.
Thank you for all your fault finding videos.Very helpful.Learner Question@14:17 you say we have split ring back at the CU.Have you literally left L,N & cpc open ended at CU end? Also did you link L&N at kitchen end to eliminate damage to neons etc? or any other reason? Appreciate the time you spend to give us these videos
Yes, we had disconnected at the CU end. That's where we tested originally and once we found the reading was bad, we left it disconnected at the CU and went on to disconnect it at the junction under the cabinets. That allowed us to test each leg on its own to determine which cable route warranted more attention. Linking line to neutral was indeed because no loads had been disconnected so we wanted to ensure there was no potential difference between line and neutral that might damage something still plugged in.
That made me giggle. Watching that video, you can't be more than a few miles from me. I only recently went through the pain of Domestic Installer exams etc. Passed it all first time (really high scores on the City & Guilds exams), but then had to wait months and months for the certificates (they came last week).
To keep your immune system healtly it's good to allow it to work on various bugs and nasties and what's behind plinths is usually enough, but that water must have been to most bug riddled filth available so if you aren't throwing up after eating the sarnies you can rest assurerd that your immune system is firing on all cylinders.
Gopping! It would be interesting to see whether the insulation on the cores had been nicked when the sheath was stripped near the junction box (the bits you chopped off).
That’s not rodent damage. It looks like a flexi pan adapter has been used and possibly wrapped in a plastic bag. Even the 40mm waste pipe seems to be back falling. It screams dodgy kitchen fitter. It’s probably another one of those “it’s not my job” sack of shit moment!
If you ever see your plumber install those bloody flexi-bends - get a new plumber - they do not last and worse if rodents are in your system they get through them in no time at all.
Them wc flexys are paper thin and not really fit for purpose .I found one chewed at a first time customers house and it was going to be a major job to change for ridgid pipe so changed it with an exact copy and was back a week later to the same prob so eventually had to bite the bullet and do the big job of changing to solid pipe.The rats seem to love the taste or are desperate for a drink
@@dsesuk our fusebox has a few switches for the air source heating, 1 for my log cabin which then also has a fusebox in it, 1 for the cooker, 1 for the house sockets, 1 for the lights, 1 for the shower
@@dsesuk Did you enquire to if he had unwrapped it first? Or gone for the option that allowed for poop free consumption afterwards as I know he was complaining how expensive they were and can't see him wasting one up the back door
If the kitchen fitter had done a good job and tacked the cable off the ground water ingress would never have tripped the RCD. Then the broken pipe would have gone unnoticed and this could of happened: For years the family felt sad because of bad smells in the kitchen. They blamed the dog and the poor animal developed an anxiety disorder never understanding why they all hated him. Eventually the water damaged the foundations and the homeowners noticed the problem because the house started to subside. Once the wife realised the bad smell she had suffered for years could have been avoided she blamed the husband and it tipped their relationship over the edge. After a year of money problems because the insurance company wouldn't cover the damages the couple ended up divorcing. So in a way.... thanks kitchen fitter, for without you it could have been much worse.
Hi David, Interesting video! Maybe, when the plumber has dismantled the unit and rectified the mess, it will shed light or sh… on the suspect cable. Entertainment comes as standard! 👍⚡️
I was expecting a convoluted special needs bog. One I went to just needed onsite creative redisign of the flush linkage. The other one required 3 types of degrees in somthing, the inventor and 2 months to organise. 6 months later they refit the bathroom with the new version space x bogs x2 and a bigger bath/wash tank.
Nice video lads. I'm wondering if the water wasn't running inside the cable sleeve from the junction box end, without the sleeve being damaged, if you get what I mean.
Maybe. It all seemed dry around the terminations, but we could only get to so much of the wiring with the kitchen units in place. Hopefully we'll get a closer look once some poor sod has dismantled that corner of the kitchen to fix the plumbing.
The kitchen fitters have used black market cable which doesn't have waterproof insulation! I have come across it before. If you remove a piece of the cable from the bad section, take the outer insulation off, submerse the live conductor in slightly salted water with the ends sticking out, put one test clip in the water around the basic insulation, one test clip around the bare conductor out of the water. Do an IR test. I bet it fails. Repeat with genuine cable - it will pass
That's the TIS MFT Pro Noel, big brother to the cheaper TIS MFT Eco. I made a review video back in 2018 where I was a bit sniffy about it, but a firmware upgrade resolved my main gripes and it's been a part of my main toolbox for the past two years.
You don't high-def 360 whizzyness from a couple of fat old farts Andi. It'd put you off your lunch the first time Nige bends over and the hairs pop out of his arse crack.
Defo rat damage on the jollyflex. Probably nibbled your cables aswell. Seen almost identical damage on extractor ducting in lofts too. Except that had been chewed through by wasps. Why didn't Noah kill the feckers when there were only two of each?
Great find but shocking workmanship from other trades. In one way it's an accessible JB in another it's a series of very unfortunate events. I was gagging on my cold sausage chips and gravy watching this one.
I enjoyed seeing Jordan riding with you two in the van, shame he's gone. He fitting another EV to his house again, or did Nige bore him to death again?
There is a moose in the hoose - shit plumbing, shit kitchen fitting, shit electrics which all looks fine and swanky until put into use. Good job the circuit has an RCD and they used an non iPhone rated junction box - otherwise that could have gone on for yonks. RCD the flood alarm device.🤣
i do the same after 30 some years i go through every scenario going to the job and 9 times out of 10 it was not one of the scenarios i had run through , i thought after all this time i could just think of something else on route to job and walk in with a clear head and just find problem instead of working through my scenarios ,
Good video, should have stopped by the local shop though and picked up and mashed some Dundee cake for a bit of fake fecal video japery 😂 I would have thought running a soil pipe in to the kitchen that isn't boxed in would be against the regulations, blame the kitchen fitters anyway, the customers plumbing invoice is going to make his eyes water, I'm surprised with the sewer venting in to the kitchen they already weren't 😂 his poor wife must have thought she was a terrible cook.
The only thing that can do that to a flexi-pipe is rats. They'll have nibbled the insulation on the cables too. There could be damage to any of the wires in the area and it could be very difficult to see. How are those pipes allowed by code? Each of the little ridges forms a pool that traps the effluent. Nasty. The smell must have been awful. How did they not notice?
its amazing how someone turning up to fix a problem seems to always solve the problem at least while that someone is looking at it
A camera is a sure way to not capture what the hell you want to see.
It goes both ways. A one-time boss of mine used to say that the chance of a bit of prototype kit working as intended was in inverse proportion to the number, and rank, of the visitors invited to see it.
I'm on the edge of my seat here. Hope we get a part 2 to this 😁😁
Hi Dave & Nige, great to see another gem from you pair, that disclaimer at the beginning is pure genius humour, I am surprised that no one else appears to have commented on it.
Regards from Ray the old bugger from North Wales
Oi oi Raymond! I always wondered if anyone read the small print!
@@dsesuk I always read the small print, it's hilarious!
Great videos Dave.
Really enjoy the banter.
And they are educational as well!
Keep up the good work.
Rob
Swain Electrical and Security.
Nice work lads.....envious of your good weather your having atm ...freezing here in Oz
You'll be pleased to hear it didn't last Frank and we're back to cold and wet!
I'm amazed they didn't smell the sewage in the kitchen!
Probably too out of it on his bottle of "Haig" to notice 😆
Well, that was a strange one . And again David &Nigel got it sorted 👍 fantastic video guy’s
As always 👍👍 .
Oh David I like the new ball cap 👌
You're lucky to have Nigel.
Reliable, dependable, experienced.
Just felt the need to say that.
Nurse, where are my pills?
“Electrified turd’s” , like a bad ride at Disney world that soil pipe ! 👍
I like how Nige described that old woman in his masticator toilet yarn as 'regular'.
Macerator*
Toilets don't masticate, they don't have jaws!
(grammar police, i know, sorry)
Another great video Dave 👍 Thats certainly one i havent had before, an RCD tripping when the toilet is flushed ! 😂
As soon as I saw that soil pipe though I immediately thought it was Rat damage like others have mentioned, seen it a few times before on jobs, I’m surprised you didn’t think of that. My bet would be the rat has also chewed that faulty cable you found 🤔
Look forward to the next vid
I hadn't considered rat munching. We were surprised a flexi-pipe would be used like that - I didn't know such things existed for soil pipes.
@@dsesuk Should’ve checked with Nick Bundy - the flexicon guru
The plumber should fit a non return valve onto the poo pipe to stop Stewart nibbling the toilet pipe bend. Great investigation work lads
Nice to see you both again, all part of an electricians life as they say. O such memories , still a problem yet to be found on that job I fear . Modern test gear has at least made life a bit easier , having just a mega was rather less productive but again there would be no RCD to trip in the first place . Happy days a. Best wishes to you both and kind regards 😀👍👍👍
Nice work guys ,great fault finding pick up
Mr Savery posts a video, well that's tonight's entertainment sorted. How the hell do you not smell all that turd water in your kitchen.😁 Great stuff as always.
I was surprised there seemed to be no solids down there. I think that loo just happened to be used for tinkles which is fortunate but still not what you want sloshed over your kitchen floor.
been watching lots of your vids and I just can't help but comment, even thought it's now two years on but I felt the need to pipe up; I was thinking that you guys really looked flushed with pride after solving the loopy, leaking loo. I hope the job wasn't too draining.
I like it.😅
Had one like this.... was a float level switch in a cess pit in middle of next field.. found after 3 days testing...
Interesting content as usual, informative and funny, just what's needed after a long day at work.
The environment under that kitchen unit looked pretty un-Savery.
I'll get my coat.
lmaoooo
Good job boys - Looks like rats have chewed through the flexi pipe?
And nibbled the cable! 🐭
The good old jolly flex lol
I’m glad it’s not just me that gets the shit jobs! Thanks for sharing, looking forward to part 2, I think you need to get Phil over for this one David.
I'm waiting for "it's those damn kitchet fitters" t-shirt.
Liking the tester and it’s very handy functions mr savery. Hopefully part two of the turdbusters coming soon…….
Nice rat problem. They love them flexi bends
Could well be something nibbling where it shouldn't!
I think if I lived in that property, the prospect of having to take a large section of the kitchen out would be motivation enough to ask the plumber to find a better way to couple the pan to the drain. That flexi was always a problem waiting to happen, situated where it is.
I think I'd want a large section of the kitchen out to ensure thorough cleaning down there!
Good video guys, glad to see you on the job! Ooh err!!
Thank you for all your fault finding videos.Very helpful.Learner Question@14:17 you say we have split ring back at the CU.Have you literally left L,N & cpc open ended at CU end? Also did you link L&N at kitchen end to eliminate damage to neons etc? or any other reason? Appreciate the time you spend to give us these videos
Yes, we had disconnected at the CU end. That's where we tested originally and once we found the reading was bad, we left it disconnected at the CU and went on to disconnect it at the junction under the cabinets. That allowed us to test each leg on its own to determine which cable route warranted more attention. Linking line to neutral was indeed because no loads had been disconnected so we wanted to ensure there was no potential difference between line and neutral that might damage something still plugged in.
@@dsesuk Thank you .Appreciate the clarification.
That made me giggle. Watching that video, you can't be more than a few miles from me. I only recently went through the pain of Domestic Installer exams etc. Passed it all first time (really high scores on the City & Guilds exams), but then had to wait months and months for the certificates (they came last week).
Nigel reminds me of the archaeologist guy off big bang theory
The one who likes rocks!! 😂 I see it 😂😂😂
@@adgersparky1718 rock show, rock show, rock show.
@@Dime_Bar hahaha YES!!! 🤘
@@adgersparky1718 so you watch it as well it is him a spot on image of him.
Did Olly flush Ratty around the world lol Nice one guys, interesting utility interactions..
That is rodent damage if ever I saw it, and I did recently. If it hasn't been flushed for a while they seem to be able to climb up your poop pipe.
Cheers Peter, an interesting observation!
@@dsesuk you can almost still see the nibble marks on the nugget chute......
@@petertallowin6406 Reminds me of a dream I had about Nigel recently...
I've just come on to say the same thing! 100% rats or possibly mice.
@@paulcharlton4788 Rats!
To keep your immune system healtly it's good to allow it to work on various bugs and nasties and what's behind plinths is usually enough, but that water must have been to most bug riddled filth available so if you aren't throwing up after eating the sarnies you can rest assurerd that your immune system is firing on all cylinders.
Good to know. I managed to keep my Huel down!
Gopping! It would be interesting to see whether the insulation on the cores had been nicked when the sheath was stripped near the junction box (the bits you chopped off).
Could have been something like that, we should have looked closer.
Great content as always 👌
Another fun day in Pish
You never know how easy or hard the job will be.
Sometimes daveo Ya just can't win em all, the beauty of the elec game. Good vid man
It's good to know we left a family able to defecate under their own kitchen counters again without interrupting their power.
Great video as usual .
Looked like the tube used for shower extractors ??
I never knew electricians got “down and dirty” on the job.
That’s not rodent damage. It looks like a flexi pan adapter has been used and possibly wrapped in a plastic bag. Even the 40mm waste pipe seems to be back falling. It screams dodgy kitchen fitter. It’s probably another one of those “it’s not my job” sack of shit moment!
Classic DSE! Perhaps it's a Nick in the U Bundy? 10 /10. 👌🏼
I like this and will use it in the future.
Why do you not use audible cable tracers?
If you ever see your plumber install those bloody flexi-bends - get a new plumber - they do not last and worse if rodents are in your system they get through them in no time at all.
Sounds like the culprit.
Them wc flexys are paper thin and not really fit for purpose .I found one chewed at a first time customers house and it was going to be a major job to change for ridgid pipe so changed it with an exact copy and was back a week later to the same prob so eventually had to bite the bullet and do the big job of changing to solid pipe.The rats seem to love the taste or are desperate for a drink
@@dsesuk our fusebox has a few switches for the air source heating, 1 for my log cabin which then also has a fusebox in it, 1 for the cooker, 1 for the house sockets, 1 for the lights, 1 for the shower
@@theoddjobcentre6686 Well done!
Need to attach some polystyrene to the JBs and cables so they float on top of the water - problem fixed!
Water wings for junction boxes. I like it.
Just to get all Anoraky, polystyrene leaches the plasticisers from the cable insulation causing it to deteriorate and crack. 😄
@@splodders True enough - if the raw sewage hasn’t already done for it!!
@@Richardincancale eww! 🤢
Hiya Dave did you find the faulty cable I'm intrigued to know
Good video mate
I can see you have respect and admiration for the kitchen fitting trade. For sure that pipe has been chewed by a rat.
There are good kitchen fitters out there. Somewhere.
@@dsesuk My dear old grandpaw once told us he'd met a good kitchen fitter in Africa during the war. No pics though so we assume it never happened.
Nice one gents, always a joy to see what your upto.
I second that e-motion
Nige seconded the motion on site and I inadvertently grabbed a handful while testing.
Interesting job 😎
No Twinkie update from Nige this week?
He told me off-camera that he'd stuck one up his arse. I didn't include that though.
@@dsesuk Did you enquire to if he had unwrapped it first? Or gone for the option that allowed for poop free consumption afterwards as I know he was complaining how expensive they were and can't see him wasting one up the back door
If the kitchen fitter had done a good job and tacked the cable off the ground water ingress would never have tripped the RCD. Then the broken pipe would have gone unnoticed and this could of happened: For years the family felt sad because of bad smells in the kitchen. They blamed the dog and the poor animal developed an anxiety disorder never understanding why they all hated him. Eventually the water damaged the foundations and the homeowners noticed the problem because the house started to subside. Once the wife realised the bad smell she had suffered for years could have been avoided she blamed the husband and it tipped their relationship over the edge. After a year of money problems because the insurance company wouldn't cover the damages the couple ended up divorcing. So in a way.... thanks kitchen fitter, for without you it could have been much worse.
Hi David,
Interesting video! Maybe, when the plumber has dismantled the unit and rectified the mess, it will shed light or sh… on the suspect cable. Entertainment comes as standard!
👍⚡️
Those flexi connectors are awful, definitely evidence of bathroom fitter bodgery
V good David 10points to Gryffindor
I was expecting a convoluted special needs bog. One I went to just needed onsite creative redisign of the flush linkage. The other one required 3 types of degrees in somthing, the inventor and 2 months to organise. 6 months later they refit the bathroom with the new version space x bogs x2 and a bigger bath/wash tank.
The sweet smell of success.
its very nice of nigel to pleasure Tramps......they need lovin too🤣
Could be a stray douglas hurd that wouldnt go down, stuck like a stranded ship
With a turning circle like the QE2
Has Leaky Pete been on the job.
Nice video lads. I'm wondering if the water wasn't running inside the cable sleeve from the junction box end, without the sleeve being damaged, if you get what I mean.
Maybe. It all seemed dry around the terminations, but we could only get to so much of the wiring with the kitchen units in place. Hopefully we'll get a closer look once some poor sod has dismantled that corner of the kitchen to fix the plumbing.
@@dsesuk I hope you manage to do a follow up on that job
Flexible pipes don't handle getting rodded to well but could be rodents if there was any more gnawing damage under the units.
9:09 What is the 262V?
You know, I didn't even clock that. You're right, it's out of spec.
The kitchen fitters have used black market cable which doesn't have waterproof insulation! I have come across it before. If you remove a piece of the cable from the bad section, take the outer insulation off, submerse the live conductor in slightly salted water with the ends sticking out, put one test clip in the water around the basic insulation, one test clip around the bare conductor out of the water. Do an IR test. I bet it fails. Repeat with genuine cable - it will pass
Been excited for this since ur first tweet. That thumbnail 😂😂 bet you wish it was real, poor nige
quality job and a good reason to carry nail clippers in the tool kit , luckily the toilet was log free. #nutella
Dave what is that meter your using
That's the TIS MFT Pro Noel, big brother to the cheaper TIS MFT Eco. I made a review video back in 2018 where I was a bit sniffy about it, but a firmware upgrade resolved my main gripes and it's been a part of my main toolbox for the past two years.
@@dsesuk absolutely brilliant 👏 👌
Overflowing toilet and no corn for ratty...
Rolands had the cable somewhere as well as the pipe I’d wager.
A bit of a nibble as it passes the poop-chute perhaps.
I've not looked at all comments
... WCBO maybe?
When are you getting the 360 camera like Naomi Wu David, then we can have a Savery experience of your projects?
You don't high-def 360 whizzyness from a couple of fat old farts Andi. It'd put you off your lunch the first time Nige bends over and the hairs pop out of his arse crack.
Defo rat damage on the jollyflex. Probably nibbled your cables aswell. Seen almost identical damage on extractor ducting in lofts too. Except that had been chewed through by wasps.
Why didn't Noah kill the feckers when there were only two of each?
It's Poosday and Dave posts a vid.
Great find but shocking workmanship from other trades. In one way it's an accessible JB in another it's a series of very unfortunate events. I was gagging on my cold sausage chips and gravy watching this one.
I saw your tweet - sorry to put you off your lunch James.
I enjoyed seeing Jordan riding with you two in the van, shame he's gone. He fitting another EV to his house again, or did Nige bore him to death again?
Jordan's still lurking around the twat cave, we just removed him from the cab of the van.
@@dsesuk understandable.
Shame you didnt test the bit of cable you cut off
Flushed with success?
11:03 The thought of that pipe being in the kitchen is enough to put you off your chocolate log.
There is a moose in the hoose - shit plumbing, shit kitchen fitting, shit electrics which all looks fine and swanky until put into use. Good job the circuit has an RCD and they used an non iPhone rated junction box - otherwise that could have gone on for yonks. RCD the flood alarm device.🤣
06:19 WHAT HAHA!!
Those kitchen fitters just hid all the rubbish behind the plinth.
i do the same after 30 some years i go through every scenario going to the job and 9 times out of 10 it was not one of the scenarios i had run through , i thought after all this time i could just think of something else on route to job and walk in with a clear head and just find problem instead of working through my scenarios ,
Plops away!
I smell what you did there.
Oh yessss…… 👍
The suspense is pilling up loads 👍. Turning off footy and in to this 😂👍🥸
Good video, should have stopped by the local shop though and picked up and mashed some Dundee cake for a bit of fake fecal video japery 😂
I would have thought running a soil pipe in to the kitchen that isn't boxed in would be against the regulations, blame the kitchen fitters anyway, the customers plumbing invoice is going to make his eyes water, I'm surprised with the sewer venting in to the kitchen they already weren't 😂 his poor wife must have thought she was a terrible cook.
Rodent damage by the look of it.
I'm pointing the finger at ratty for that hole in poop pipe
Ah, a munching rodent unlike Nige the rodent muncher!
The only thing that can do that to a flexi-pipe is rats. They'll have nibbled the insulation on the cables too. There could be damage to any of the wires in the area and it could be very difficult to see.
How are those pipes allowed by code? Each of the little ridges forms a pool that traps the effluent. Nasty.
The smell must have been awful. How did they not notice?
I always knew you two were round the bend.
Can Nigel discuss American chocolates and sweets again in the van?
I don't think Dave owns a large enough SD card to record that whole convo, nor the patience. lol
Nige has an opinion on all aspects of life that he likes to air on long journeys. I've trained myself to tune out of it.
A bit different. Why was I praying that you found the real cause?
4:58 Nige practicing to be a turd wrangler?
You put your hand straight into the shitty water 😂
Ggod sir
Rats & mice really love them some plastic.
Thought you had retired old bean.
I don't get to retire Andy, I'll just keel over on the job one day.
@@dsesuk ....DITTO....
Hello, I'm J W.
👌👌👍
A hard dump... and one with particularly sharp corner edges. "yeah, don't use the toilet... and eat more fruit."
I hate the ones that come out feeling like they've got corners on.
10:30 Flexi shit pipe and rats. Same everytime.
Great to see we all get some shite jobs pardon the punt 👍
I'd hate to be the plumber who has to fix that pipe.