Jack thank you! I am an American Jew and although not an expert by any means consider myself a student of the history of the region. I must say this is the single best interview I’ve seen on this topic and the first 25 minutes are the best concise background/history for the layman I’ve seen. What an incredible interview. Like he eluded to- I do think it’s only a matter of time before this extremism spills over beyond Israel and into America. Again thank you for this outstanding interview.
I had an elder friend, who would often say a lot with few words. Whenever this topic of Israel came up, he would simply say, "Nobody wanted them". Now, here I am seeing all this h8teful anti- semitism rearing its ugly head. Again.
..because Israel couldn't..wouldn't do it without US blessings and our wage tax money. There is no income tax. Income tax is corporate profit brougt back (incoming) into the country. They are stealing our earned wages. Illegal according to the constitution.
If it were happening to your family....wouldn't you target the source to stop it? It's only extreme because its forced to be. They are cradling their dead loved ones in the dirt. There is nowhere safe to be and no sign v relief. The whole world is watching and defending the nazis in this, the Arab holocaust.
Not sure if I’m the only one that thought this but I would’ve loved if Gur went even deeper into the history of the conflict and talked about it for 2-3hrs straight. He’s such in intelligent and well-spoken person with an unbelievably deep knowledge
He's reciting Zionist propaganda. Jews are supposed to remain stateless and not rule over land. Zionists were paid a shitton of money by the Rothschilds et al to go live there and forsake their religion. You're being played.
He's reciting Zionist propaganda. Jews are supposed to remain stateless and not rule over land. Zionists were paid a shitton of money by the Rothschilds et al to go live there and forsake their religion. You're being played.
These are the types of interviews that are necessary that we don’t get from mainstream media. This is a perfect example of why I watch your podcasts. I appreciate the work you do!
This guy literally states in this interview he has been on MSM outlets lately talking about this. Then jack refers to them as “ established news agencies “
He's reciting Zionist propaganda. Jews are supposed to remain stateless and not rule over land. Zionists were paid a shitton of money by the Rothschilds et al to go live there and forsake their religion. You're being played.
Rogan NEEDS to have this guy on. Americans have to hear this message. We cannot just accept American kids being taught that Hamas is acting in a justified manner.
Me either! These kids post nothing about what Hamas did the day before Israel retaliated. I’m glad to see donors are flipping on the colleges that harbor professors who contribute to their students developing such an ignorant ill conceived thought about reality. It’s embarrassing at the least.
Absolutely excellent interview. Haviv Rettig Gur's clarity on the history and circumstances that led to this horrific event was extremely educational. These types of interviews are what the mainstream media should be presenting if it actually wished to return itself to being somewhat useful news sources.
What a well spoken, calm, incredibly educated on the Israel/Palestinian issue and completely calm man. My deepest respect for Mr Gur. Everything he says here is 100% fact. The world, the real world stands by our Israeli brothers and sisters. Can you imagine what could be accomplished if the Palestinians could produce one single person that was even close to this man's character and demeanor and sit down with the sole purpose of discussing the safety of both sides instead of making a rediculous hate speach everytime they get near a microphone?
I totally understand you, i have heard the same stories about my family in Greece. Arabs, ottoman turks, Nazis, 400 years of fighting. My grandfather and his cousin came to America to be safe and survive, they were 10 years old by themselves. Same bloodthirsty barbarians as our Israeli brothers and sisters contend with for lifetimes. No words can express it. Now we face the same barbarians, we in America are next, they want us all dead. This Orthodox Christian standing with Israel, I will not be silent for Zion sake! Our prayers for you all, God Bless..
My great grandparents and their families left Greece in the 1920s and 30s for the same reason. Most Americans are completely unaware of how Israel is fighting the same fight today.
@@CorneliusWellingtonIII yes our history dealing with Turkmen and the Nazis was holocaust too but it too is denied by "world leaders' my Pappous had 14 brothers and sisters, after wwll 3 remaining not killed. So glad your people survived!! Yamas!
This is a MUST HEAR for all Americans, and world citizens alike. Far more thorough, factual, explanation of the “why” for Israel’s actions right now. I already understood & agreed with Israel, but now my knowledge of secular Jewish & Israel history over the last 100-200 years combined with my Biblical knowledge compliment each other perfectly. Thank you for taking the time to speak to a much needed topic!
The clearest explanation of our history and modern reality that l ever heard and l’ve got six plus decades under my belt. Thank you. Exceptionally well done.
Haviv Rettig Gur - this guy was amazing. How could you keep your calm and lay out a pretty unbiased appraisal of the current situation. Thanks for this interview! Israel needs to be free to remove Hamas and Hezbola if it comes to that. Know the difference between good and evil - that really sums it up.
I am not an Israeli or a Jew, I do live in Oak Park Ca a very Jewish community and I train at the Israeli Martial Arts Academy AND I have my own history in the USMC 80-83 where these barbarians car bombed 250 of my brothers....I have to say this interview with Mr. Gur was OUTSTANDING and when he said, "Can we go back to the history." I about broke down in tears! Bravo again Jack!
What the f*ck were we and the frogs doing in Lebanon in the first place, man? If there was a Chinese or Cuban base in Alexandria what would we do? I know what I'd do.
Wow .. just Wow! This guy is so interesting to listen to! This was one of the best talks on Israel I have ever heard. Kudos to Jack for bringing on such an amazing guest! I hoping that Mr. Gur might one day write a book or teach an online class about this - he knows so much and the world really needs to hear this! Thank you to Jack and this channel for making this available. I didn't know of either the channel or the guest until this video, but now I'll be a dedicated follower of both!
Sincerely appreciate the time and effort that went into this episode. This fills the void left by sound bites and attention grabbing headlines, getting to the heart of the matter and historical perspective. Thanks Jack and Haviv.
Deepest respect to Gur for his articulate discourse on the BM history and context of recent events. Our deepest condolences to the families impacted by this evil. Prayers for the removal of terror in the region!
Thank you for this information. I’m in Australia, yes we saw the demonstrations in Sydney, but that’s not what the Australian people represent, or feel, we are definitely praying for the people of Israel and all innocent people in Gaza. God bless you all and keep you safe from these terrorists.
@@baker_cannerFree speech enables people to come out and expose themselves. Best we know who the haters are so they they and their connections can be monitored. Hopefully public distaste will encourage less immigration of the wrong people.
Let's not forget about the french marxist professors who taught Pol Pot in University and turned him into a raging lunatic who went back to Cambodia and k\lled nearly a million of his own people through starvation and tort*re, it's weird how they are never brought up when discussing that brutal period of Cambodia's history. It's also weird how in the 1970s the marxist ideology had created so many bodies, intellectuals decided to repackage it as "post-modernism" instead of admitting the whole thing is wrong.
Big media ties? No thanks. These settlers had it coming. They kill palestinian kids every month for years. "One shot, two kills" look it up. This IDF guy is a talking headpiece for Israeli propaganda. 😂 Look into this a bit more deeply. Counting the calories that enter a country, military occupation and lockdowns, claiming terrorism when these people stand the fuck up. Ashkenazi Zionists are NOT Jews. Zionists hate Jews. Zionists hate christians. You're all being played.
@@rantanplan178 This is exactly what I was thinking. That someone could say that they are for ethnic cleansing in Gaza and then immediately acknowledge that being an intellectual doesn´t mean you can´t be a monster. It goes to show that the international community is being irresponsible by not taking charge of the situation. Israelies are also victims, its not just the Palestinians. We don´t let victims administer justice by deciding the sentence of their aggressors. That wouldn´t be justice, it would be revenge. Why should the international community let either one side decide what happens to the other?
@@ScamallDorcha The international community is largely responsible for this whole mess. By allowing the Palestinians to languish in Gaza and allowing three Arab league to retain them as proxy fighters for their famous three "Nos" the people have been left to fight a war they have been egged on too. Perhaps the international communities inability to decide what to do with the Palestinians and their lack of a spine to dealing with the Arab states should remove them from this mess and allow the two sides to hash it out.
Awesome interview. Learned a whole lot. Thank you Haviv for your time and may God Bless you and the people of Israel. Jack, thanks for brining to us this interview.
I would say, this was one of the best interviews. Please bring Haviv back again soon. FYI, I am an Iranian, and we and many Iranians support Israel. We know exactly how that Islamist mentality works as we have experienced them for 44 years. Long live Israel. If the US and Israel really want to get rid of the Mullahs, all they need to do is take out the IRGC bases and leave the rest to the Iranian people. People have been fighting these religious thugs for years but without any support from the world.
You're joking. Your country is next. Israel is already pushing in liberal news that Iran backed the recent "hamas" attack. The US and Israel have had your country on the list for years. Trump even said generals were pushing him to attack Iran. I really cant believe how gulluble people are.
I’m just curious why are some Iranians supporting Israel? Are they mostly Christian or even muslim? And is it because they hate the IRGC so much that they support any enemy of IRGC? I’m just curious about the mind set of any Iranian/muslim /Arab that supports Israel Thank you for your support !!
It is very simple. The IRGC doesn't represent Iran. It shows in their name Islamic Republic Gaurd Corps. They are not all Iranian nationals. They have a large number of foreigners in their ranks, from Iraq, Lebanon, and recently Afghanistan. They are there to protect the oppressive violent mullahs' theocracy and have zero national interest in Iran. They are not a typical army but rather an army of Ometh( which in English means the nation of Islam that does not recognize any border). They have killed and tortured thousands of Iranian dissidents in and outside of Iran...I can go on and on. all I can tell you they are hated since they are a tool of the Islamic government and they have been killing Iranians for 44 years. Note Iran has a national army and forces, but they are disfranchised and have one-tenth of the IRGC power. Let me know if you have any other questions. I will be glad to elaborate @@keeto1234
Islam came to that part of the land Palestine at the same time it came to Iran. Please go study justo for yourself & don’t rely on one sided propaganda! The 1st century Christians were & still are in Palestine, as well as other Christian communities. Armenians, Coptic, etc etc.
I had to come back and watch this a second time. This man should be talking all over the place. I will add, even though Israel takes care of themselves; my prayers are with Israel. 🙏🏻✝️🇮🇱❤️
Wow, such awesome intelligence, thank you. Both of you men are Valiant, the questions and answers were Spot on, lifted my head, they grounded me even deeper in the support of the precious Jewish people and their Holy Land. Praying ,fasting, & contributing for your success. Multiple Millions of people around the world are doing the same. Many recognize your greatness by you are the ONLY Nation of people who could carry The WORDS of The ONLY LIVING LORD GOD, in the Torah. The Light loves you, the darkness hates you. GOD IS WITH YOU! 🇮🇱🎺⚖📖🔔🎵🙏ISRAEL IS FOREVER🙏😇😎🌵from Southern Arizona, USA❤✡
It's abundantly clear that this man has spent a lot of time thinking about these complex and interwoven issues. His nuanced musings reflect the confronting history behind modern geopolitical realities and the challenging nature of complex facts on the ground. Thanks for bringing us another great podcast episode and a valuable interview!
Thank the guest for taking the time to review the historical context that we find ourselves in. Even if we assume that “both sides do bad things”, it’s clear to me that one of the side’s mission is to eradicate the other side. I don’t see the Israeli’s intention the same
Alot of these people that support these atrocities also support defunding the police, that should tell you alot about their morality. What upsets me the most is when people in safe, rich countries start chanting that countries that are defending themselves against existential threats must just put down their guns and accept their fate. And btw, Israel is pretty tough on gun control, that's one reason these innocent people were completely defenseless. Protect your family and your property first, don't listen to criminals who try and shame you into commiting $uicide.
“Nowhere to go” because no one in world history has wanted them anywhere nearby. What other group can claim that dubious distinction. But, hey, there can’t possibly be a good reason for that - it’s just random chance, right?!?!
Well in same time couple of weeks ago very same Isreal was supporting/helping Azerbedjan in ethnic cleansing of Armenians from Nagorno Karabakh. So yes go figure...Not everything that shines is gold Israel has also lots of blood on it's hands
thoughtful respectful conversation with 2 beautiful human beings discussing facts with compassion and understanding thank you both for your insights and your courage
Hello Jack, First time viewer of yours. I must say, my news channels of late have been very difficult to watch. I have been looking for a less emotional response and a breakdown of the Palestinian/Israeli Conflict that was cohesive, succinct and as objective as one can be under the circumstances. I found Haviv Gur to be fascinating, fair, and clear. I have listened to your conversation with him maybe 10 or more times in its entirety and am still getting something out of it each time. I would like to show my appreciation to both you and Haviv for this conversation as I have really been struggling to find understanding and clarity with respect to this conflict. I knew instantly how I felt about these terrorist attacks, but I was lacking the historical and current sentiment between Israel and Hamas with which to frame my throughts. Once again, thank you so much for this conversation.
Thank you, Jack! Thank you for having this man explain what is really going on since mainstream media won't. Much respect to you, sir. And again, THANK YOU for your service! God bless America and Israel.
What an interview and hats off to Haviv for somehow keeping it together through all of that. You could feel the raw emotion behind him threatening to break through the dam and to still speak with such clarity was something else. Watching this unfold and so many people coming out in support of Hamas has been an awful experience. The woman I love is Jewish, people I grew up with down the street are jewish and I cant imagine how this is for them. Hamas is a cancer. They've got to go and I do not care how it gets done. Thanks for your words and time Haviv.
@JackCarr Thank you for Inviting Haviv to your podcast, this wasn't just a regular conversation. This was an absolute lecture you and Haviv gifted us here! I am deeply appreciative of what you folks have done here. The Right side will prevail! Israel and world will have this story to tell as tail to generations to come! ❤
@@pec757Gaza is undersiege for nearly 16 year after the US wanted a palestianian elections.The blockade started after hamas won those elections. Not because of any rockets. By the way amnesty international, human rights watch as well as isreal B tslem all call isreal an apartheid state infact the US placed pressure on the plastinian liberation organizations when they wanted the icc to investigate hamas and isreal occupation forces for war crimes it would take years later when they did. Why does the US not recognize amnesty international report on Israel why hamper the icc?
I have read all of your books, but had never listened to any of your podcasts. This morning a link to this was posted in a forum that I frequent, for which I am grateful. I have listened to many other podcasts, THIS is without a doubt the most powerful I have ever heard.
"their first crime against humanity was committed against Jews, their second is being committed against Palestinians by hiding under them." let that soak in... this man is teaching us all and Jack is listening as we all should be.
Exactly! Imagine supporting “men” who target Israeli children and then hide behind Palestinian children to escape accountability. All the Americans today claiming to be supporters of the Palestinian people are anything but. They are supporting evil cowards who from Qatari penthouses offer their own people up on a platter for misery entirely to keep their mission of genocide alive. Once again, the American people proving to be unspeakably stupid. I’d remind you, these are the same people who demand no police, open borders, and the legalization of child gender transitions. They said kids college students needed “safe spaces” because Trump won and yet see no reason to provide any support for Jewish kids on campus passing by mobs of people openly praising Hamas. Bragging about how all they needed was hang-gliders. This insanity is out of control. It is not sustainable.
@@awakenyisrael Yeah, you keep saying that In a BUNCH of comments... Care to tell us what he "skipped"??? or no? **edit** 9 days later and this waste still can't explain LMAO
@chilloutdude3617 a "bunch"? Maybe listen to your own avatar name. 🤔 and if you have read the whole lot of the "bunch"... then you would habe seen the multitude of examples given, that I encourage others to investigate. This doesn't mean I think the other side is sooo awesome, I can pick them apart as well, but right now there is genocide happening, and many of those people are followers of Yahusha and I will call the demons perpetrating it out, while you support them. Get a clue , read some history, Scofield lied to you and the Milner group LOVES the simple minded. Bless your heart.
@@awakenyisraelexactly what? Dont just say he skipped over it, tell us what has been skipped and your credible source. From all I already knew on this subject, this man did a fantastic overview of the whoke situation....jus saying
Thank you for this excellent podcast; it’s one that I immediately shared as widely as possible. The information covered will prove helpful to many seeking to understand the nature of this new conflict. I’ve been a student of Middle Eastern affairs, Israel, the Diaspora, and the Jewish experience for many years, but I also gained a new and valued perspective on the broader subject tonight. My heart has been broken for the suffering of the people of Israel; particularly for the many wonderful Israeli men and women we know and love; for their families, friends, and colleagues. But we are so proud of them, grateful to be their friends, and will be continually praying for them and all Israel - Jewish and Arab, as the country faces this existential crisis. The information presented here is indeed excellent but, as Christians, our entire worldview is formed by the Bible, so our understanding of the connection between the Jewish people and the land of Israel extends far earlier than the 140 years covered here. On the basis of our faith, trust, and love of the Lord, and our firm belief in His Word, as well as historical facts and International Law, we stand squarely with Israel. And we will do whatever we can to support her, by the grace and power of Almighty God; the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Am Israel Chai!
thanks for allowing your guest to really share the story. I appreciate all your shows (and love your books!) This was helpful to understand the world around us.
This has been a great eye opener. I served in the U.S. Navy. I know my oath is for my lifetime. I feel this conflict is sick! How does killing and beheading children be supported? I grew up in a school system and community that included Jewish, Catholic, Protestant children and families. How can we help make our global village safe?
Haviv , first allow me to express my condolences for the horrific abomination that was committed against Israel and her children. We are praying for the peace and salvation of Israel as well as for the Muslims to seek after a future peace with Israel and an end to the demonic atrocities that their people have committed. 😢
I was busy cleaning, listening to podcast and this just pops on. I was gonna change it but my hands were wet. I was hanging on every word within minutes. This really was informative and helped me have a clearer view of of this highly confusing situation that as someone with minimal knowledge of the history can somewhat grasp. Thank you.
After reading this "Haviv Rettig Gur is an Israeli journalist who serves as the political correspondent and senior analyst for The Times of Israel" I realize that it is totally unbiased commentary and I know exactly the two sides of the story from only one source, big saving in time too, that is wonderful!
No one said it would be unbiased . He is Jewish , of course there will be bias . No one is telling you WHAT to think . He is giving his perspective. But , despite bias his facts on the history of events are correct .
Well let me summarize Hamas for you, "we want to exterminate every single jew on the planet and set up a worldwide caliphate." If you want a 2 state solution fine, I could agree with that. But Hamas isnt going to get a seat at the table nor should they.
Avid podcast listener for long, long time now. Very much appreciate the work of the talented Jack Carr. After the start of this episode I needed to stop all the to-do stuff to intently listen to Haviv Rettig Gur. INCREDIBLE. While I know much of the last 100+ years of Jewish history this historical overview is vitally important to the Judeo-Christian Belief System. The timeliness of this conversation is inspired! Had no idea that Jack Carr has a You Tube Channel - or maybe I did - regardless, indeed fortunate to find this one in particular after a quick search so I can say THANK YOU TO YOU BOTH. I did not think I could love and respect Israel anymore than I already do yet after this conversation and after October 7, 2023 onward no matter what I remain Standing for Israel as I have for nearly 70 years.
..again spot on, your nation has hope and strength when your young men and women are willing to sacrifice and serve for the greater good..what struck me as a life long soldier is that after you see enough is that there's no hate, just resolve...I totally get that feeling that somethings just needs to be done to prevent things from ever happening again and that feeling of guilt in the failure to protect the innocent..
Thank you Haviv and Jack - By far the best "how we got here" breakdown I have heard at the top of this pod, followed by clear-eyed, laser-focused view on where this is going. Great work.
Thank you Jack for being a great interviewer. You have the gift of mostly staying silent and "HEARING" your subject's story. I liked Charlie Rose for a similar gift, though my politics is opposite of his. If I want to learn the story, I don't need politics. I already have my politics. I need info, and your style gathers that for me. Thank you.
I am a Jew, descended from a White Russian and a Romanian grandparents; I was, am so moved by Haviv's equipoise and calm charm brought to mind Carpenter's 'Starman' in which the alien says "...you are at your best when things are at their very worst..." L'Chaim!
I left this podcast a lot smarter than when I started. A very unique perspective on the history and attitudes of the Isreali people. I am looking for more interviews with him or his writings.
Excellent show as always. Informative and succinct history of modern Israel and the dynamics. My oldest son is a senior at UF. Proud of the school and it’s stance supporting Israel. He will be a Marine Officer at this time next year and I couldn’t be prouder for him.
He's reciting Zionist propaganda. Jews are supposed to remain stateless and not rule over land. Zionists were paid a shitton of money by the Rothschilds et al to go live there and forsake their religion. You're being played.
I am watching this now 9 months after it was filmed, after the invasion and massacre. First of all, thank you for your concern and for interviewing someone as knowledgeable and with the integrity of Haviv Rettig Gur. What breaks my heart is, listening to Haviv and his understanding of what was about to happen, and how things were going to happen in the near and not too distant future. As an Israeli, it is my feeling that either Haviv or Michael Oren are some of the most well informed and correct experts. Where things broke down and did not proceed as Haviv predicted had to do primarily with one thing more than any other - the incredibly bad running of everything military and political, by the politicians both in the U.S. and in Israel. The fact that Biden sent the carrier groups over, and made tough sounding statements supposedly warning Iran and others, including Hizbullah, not to get involved, (e.g., "If you're thinking of getting involved, Don't!"), the actual policies of the American administration and State Department have been disastrous. From the beginning, putting pressure on Israel not to hit Hamas too hard, not to make too much of a war in Gaza, caving in to domestic political interests having to do with the progressive wing of the Democratic party and other election-related issues. The most recent f--k-up on their part, demanding endlessly that Israel NOT go into Rafah, with the National Security Council saying it would take four months to move the population out - Israel did it in 12 days. But the f-k-ups started about the time of this filming. In no time at all, as Haviv said, between 120-130% of reservists called showed up - people who weren't even called up came to fight. There were 300,000 troops ready for a ground war, and they sat idle for weeks, while the Biden administration warned that a full-scale military response would cause too many civilian casualties. The fact that the Biden administration put pressure on Israel not to start the ground war is on them. However, the fault for finally caving in to the demands falls in the laps of Israel's politicians. Netanyahu's government caved to the pressure, and as a result gave up a huge amount, and caused the hostages and their families weeks of endless suffering. The way this war has been fought has been so careful that it has led to a civilian-to-combatant ratio of killed in fighting of 1-to-1. I believe for the Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan, much like most modern militaries, had a ratio of 9 civilians to every 1 combatant. Still, Biden and Western politicians around the world, not to mention the news media and academics, all crying about too many civilian casualties. How many? We don't know, but... whatever the number, its too many! Its genocide!! - which is a particularly obscene lie, one used every time Israel fights Palestinians. They make up numbers for casualties and they are gobbled down and spit back out by the politicians, news media, and academics around the world. The number 30,000 dead, parroted by Biden and all the rest came from the Gaza Health Ministry - which is Hamas. But they never mentioned that fact, or the fact that the numbers had never been substantiated. And of course it turned out that even the U.N. and Hamas itself said the numbers were too high - exaggerated. But still, we see 30,000 or 35,000 killed, often even claiming that number represents civilians. Nevertheless, political pressure put on Israel has caused months of needless delays. And Hizbullah in the north? Every-F--king Day, rockets, drones, anti-tank missiles are fired on civilian areas in the north of Israel. There are, today, somewhere between 80,000 and 90,000 "internal refugees" - Israelis who have been moved out of their homes and have been living in hotels or with relatives for 9 months now. Why? Because Hizbullah is firing at civilian targets every day. One-third of the town of Metulla has been flattened. Thousands of missiles, drones, and rockets, what other country in the world would be expected to ignore this constant state of war? And what happened to the carrier group in the Mediterranean, supposedly to warn off others from getting involved (and let's not forget the 300 missiles, drones, and rockets fired from Iran at Israel)? It was pulled back and out. Now the policy is to warn Israel not to go to war with Hizbullah. And still, the administration refuses to change the Obama plan for peace in the mid-East, which is to coddle, placate, and appease Iran! Hundreds of billions of dollars were freed up, a great deal of which was used to fund the Iranian proxies and other terrorists groups. Iran has openly said that it plans to destroy Israel - as a first step on the way to destroy the "Great Satan:, the United States. Still, the administration refuses to admit that Iran is at war with the West, including the U.S. They just can't seem to let go of the Obama "strategy." Sorry to go on so, but what Haviv predicted should have been accurate. The errors are not his, they are the political errors of the American administration and Israel's government. In addition to the needless additional suffering of hostages and their families, the number of casualties in the IDF, because Israel is spending so many of our soldiers lives trying to keep Palestinian civilians alive. Hundreds KIA, thousands wounded. And what does Israel get in return for this? Accusations of genocide, from everybody from Hollywood "stars" to political and academic hacks, to journalists - on and on. There is no basis whatsoever for these accusations, nevertheless, the "protesters" chant away, led by Palestinian and other Muslim outside agitators. Unless you are foolish enough to believe that students from over 200 universities all across the U.S. suddenly all agreed, spontaneously - to have these massive demonstrations and shut down their campuses, with identical tents, keffiyehs, signs, strategies, chants, all the same... Sorry, I am going on again. Just thank you to Jack Carr and to Haiv Rettig Gur, for coming on and agreeing to be interviewed this close after the invasion and massacre. It is clear to see how much this is costing him emotionally. And he doesn't even discuss here the rapes of women and children, and men - some of it filmed by Hamas as they were doing it, now denied by the defenders and supporters of Hamas, nor the mutilation and torture and many of the more barbaric actions of the Palestinians who invaded on October 7, 2023. Yes, the Palestinians. Too often we see the "Hamas" invasion or attack. Who/what is Hamas? It is 100% Palestinian organization. In the "acceptable narrative", Palestinians must always be victims, even when they are the perpetrators. Anyway, thanks. Out.
Whst a wonderful 150 year history Haviv has told us in your interview. I knew some of the history prior, but he put it much more in focus for us now. Thank you Haviv!
What an incredibly erudite, reasoned and rational explanation by Mr. Gur, at a time of such incredible emotional distress. I cannot understand how Hamas thought this would not unite Israel in an existential war. It would seem to be the most counterproductive action that Hamas could have taken.
Imagine your an Arab Muslim living in gaza, you were a loud to vote your own government 17 years ago, trouble is, for whatever reason, Israel/US are not happy! That was 17 years ago, every 4 or 5 years Israel mow the lawn, you lose everything, home, wife, kid, job, mosque, bakery, school...life is no better in the west bank. Meanwhile Israel is more military! Police! Checkpoints! Walls! Surveillance! Palestinians have nothing! No vote! No military! No voice! Betrayed! Meanwhile Israel getting more far right, more volient, The US seems to encourage Israel, even made Jerusalem home for US embassy, everyone knows Palestinians want Jerusalem! But Israel poke & poke! With backing from US/UK/UN, wars with Lebanon, war with Egypt, dragging everyone else to war! But Israel have no shame! When a superpower with nukes repeat 40 beheaded babies from the president, on tv, shown all over the world, again & again & again. The world knows exactly what Israel will do? Overreaction! Overkill! But I never thought 10 months! 40.000 dead. 70% gaza flattered. The mask of Israel slipped! Day after day watching how nasty, spiteful & hate mixed with revenge mixed with the language towards towards Palestinians, by 28th October I went on my 1st pro Palestine marche in London. The media said its radical & volient, the people I saw got my respect, it was respectful & want Palestinians to have self Determination. History did not start October 7 I'm not under cover for iran. I want peace, stop these wars, stop occupation, stop settlers, stop settlement. Gaza will have Jewish settlers stealing land as it has for 75 years. Israel want their cake & eat it too, Israel didn't like the PLO before hamas, same old, rinse & repeat. Israel scares me more than hamas, maybe look at yourself because from where I am standing, Israel is sick, rotten, hateful, supremacy. This man can not support Israel with a straight face, weather its called hamas PLO ABC XYZ.
Thank you both, very insightful, in-depth, and truly heartbreaking. As A Man, I would never ever conceive the Cowardice, As a father , a brother, a husband., a warrior , I get it. , We can fix stupid, but it’s gonna hurt.., They have it comin,
Gaza is extremely small, perhaps you have some ideas on where they can put their fighting positions so that when israel bombs them civilians won't get hurt?
Totally unacceptable to murder innocent Jews - they are all humans MADE BY GOD and IT IS A DEVIL AGENDA TO MURDER INNOCENT PEOPLE THAT THEY HATE ??? BUT "WHY"???!!!
Jack thank you! I am an American Jew and although not an expert by any means consider myself a student of the history of the region. I must say this is the single best interview I’ve seen on this topic and the first 25 minutes are the best concise background/history for the layman I’ve seen. What an incredible interview. Like he eluded to- I do think it’s only a matter of time before this extremism spills over beyond Israel and into America. Again thank you for this outstanding interview.
I had an elder friend, who would often say a lot with few words. Whenever this topic of Israel came up, he would simply say, "Nobody wanted them".
Now, here I am seeing all this h8teful anti- semitism rearing its ugly head. Again.
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..because Israel couldn't..wouldn't do it without US blessings and our wage tax money. There is no income tax.
Income tax is corporate profit brougt back (incoming) into the country. They are stealing our earned wages. Illegal according to the constitution.
If it were happening to your family....wouldn't you target the source to stop it? It's only extreme because its forced to be. They are cradling their dead loved ones in the dirt. There is nowhere safe to be and no sign v relief. The whole world is watching and defending the nazis in this, the Arab holocaust.
@@raquelvega2304 It's all about h8 for these guys...
Not sure if I’m the only one that thought this but I would’ve loved if Gur went even deeper into the history of the conflict and talked about it for 2-3hrs straight. He’s such in intelligent and well-spoken person with an unbelievably deep knowledge
Agreed, more of Gur, calm and informative while presenting such a sensitive topic during a difficult time.
He's reciting Zionist propaganda. Jews are supposed to remain stateless and not rule over land.
Zionists were paid a shitton of money by the Rothschilds et al to go live there and forsake their religion.
You're being played.
I feel the same his explanation was the best I have ever heard.
His written work is very good. His analyses can be found on Times of Israel
If he did, he would have to go into the Torah which spans thousands of years.
This has been mind blowing! The best explanation of the past to present Jewish/Israel path to independence. Thank you Haviv and Jack.
Yeah, to steal other peoples land and create an evil zionist ruled nest.
He's reciting Zionist propaganda. Jews are supposed to remain stateless and not rule over land.
Zionists were paid a shitton of money by the Rothschilds et al to go live there and forsake their religion.
You're being played.
This interview absolutely gave me chills. Thank you for having such a thoughtful, well-spoken guest.
These are the types of interviews that are necessary that we don’t get from mainstream media. This is a perfect example of why I watch your podcasts. I appreciate the work you do!
This guy literally states in this interview he has been on MSM outlets lately talking about this. Then jack refers to them as “ established news agencies “
He's reciting Zionist propaganda. Jews are supposed to remain stateless and not rule over land.
Zionists were paid a shitton of money by the Rothschilds et al to go live there and forsake their religion.
You're being played.
Can't stand mean stream media.
60 minutes is a little better, but regular news has about 2 minutes to interview someone. There is no intellectual discussion on the nightly news.
This is obviously just embellishment of the mainstream narrative. It's bunk, and y'all fell for it...
Rogan NEEDS to have this guy on. Americans have to hear this message. We cannot just accept American kids being taught that Hamas is acting in a justified manner.
And bring Niko Paled and Max Blumenthal to destroy his Narrative
Me either! These kids post nothing about what Hamas did the day before Israel retaliated. I’m glad to see donors are flipping on the colleges that harbor professors who contribute to their students developing such an ignorant ill conceived thought about reality. It’s embarrassing at the least.
@@mrashad219Trash response.
I agree with you 100%
Lol and then USS LIBERTY. Right? Well that's all I needed to know about Israel.
Haviv Rettig Gur has an extremely DEEP understanding of what he is talking about. Brilliant and refreshing. Thank you!!!
Absolutely excellent interview. Haviv Rettig Gur's clarity on the history and circumstances that led to this horrific event was extremely educational. These types of interviews are what the mainstream media should be presenting if it actually wished to return itself to being somewhat useful news sources.
What a well spoken, calm, incredibly educated on the Israel/Palestinian issue and completely calm man. My deepest respect for Mr Gur. Everything he says here is 100% fact. The world, the real world stands by our Israeli brothers and sisters. Can you imagine what could be accomplished if the Palestinians could produce one single person that was even close to this man's character and demeanor and sit down with the sole purpose of discussing the safety of both sides instead of making a rediculous hate speach everytime they get near a microphone?
Mosab Hassan Yousef
I totally understand you, i have heard the same stories about my family in Greece. Arabs, ottoman turks, Nazis, 400 years of fighting. My grandfather and his cousin came to America to be safe and survive, they were 10 years old by themselves. Same bloodthirsty barbarians as our Israeli brothers and sisters contend with for lifetimes. No words can express it. Now we face the same barbarians, we in America are next, they want us all dead. This Orthodox Christian standing with Israel, I will not be silent for Zion sake! Our prayers for you all, God Bless..
My great grandparents and their families left Greece in the 1920s and 30s for the same reason. Most Americans are completely unaware of how Israel is fighting the same fight today.
@@CorneliusWellingtonIII yes our history dealing with Turkmen and the Nazis was holocaust too but it too is denied by "world leaders' my Pappous had 14 brothers and sisters, after wwll 3 remaining not killed. So glad your people survived!! Yamas!
This is a MUST HEAR for all Americans, and world citizens alike. Far more thorough, factual, explanation of the “why” for Israel’s actions right now. I already understood & agreed with Israel, but now my knowledge of secular Jewish & Israel history over the last 100-200 years combined with my Biblical knowledge compliment each other perfectly. Thank you for taking the time to speak to a much needed topic!
God's chosen are about to get rolled up....
"Biblical knowledge"
The clearest explanation of our history and modern reality that l ever heard and l’ve got six plus decades under my belt. Thank you. Exceptionally well done.
Haviv Rettig Gur - this guy was amazing. How could you keep your calm and lay out a pretty unbiased appraisal of the current situation. Thanks for this interview! Israel needs to be free to remove Hamas and Hezbola if it comes to that.
Know the difference between good and evil - that really sums it up.
I am not an Israeli or a Jew, I do live in Oak Park Ca a very Jewish community and I train at the Israeli Martial Arts Academy AND I have my own history in the USMC 80-83 where these barbarians car bombed 250 of my brothers....I have to say this interview with Mr. Gur was OUTSTANDING and when he said, "Can we go back to the history." I about broke down in tears! Bravo again Jack!
What the f*ck were we and the frogs doing in Lebanon in the first place, man? If there was a Chinese or Cuban base in Alexandria what would we do? I know what I'd do.
Thanks for serving.
Level Gaza Lebanon Iran!!!
Thanks for your service and I couldn’t agree more.
This was an excellent and honest interview. Beautiful.
His performance almost had me crying too, Oscar worthy.
Wow .. just Wow! This guy is so interesting to listen to! This was one of the best talks on Israel I have ever heard. Kudos to Jack for bringing on such an amazing guest! I hoping that Mr. Gur might one day write a book or teach an online class about this - he knows so much and the world really needs to hear this!
Thank you to Jack and this channel for making this available. I didn't know of either the channel or the guest until this video, but now I'll be a dedicated follower of both!
Sincerely appreciate the time and effort that went into this episode. This fills the void left by sound bites and attention grabbing headlines, getting to the heart of the matter and historical perspective. Thanks Jack and Haviv.
Jack and Haviv, thank you both so much for this extraordinary conversation. There is so much to learn.
I learned a lot from this, thank you for taking time to explain the history. I am so sorry for the people of Israel. I am praying for all of you.
This man is so strong to be holding it together speaking about these current events
You noticed that too!!! WOW! So personal for him! “A time to weep.” Ahmain!
Deepest respect to Gur for his articulate discourse on the BM history and context of recent events. Our deepest condolences to the families impacted by this evil. Prayers for the removal of terror in the region!
Thank you for this information. I’m in Australia, yes we saw the demonstrations in Sydney, but that’s not what the Australian people represent, or feel, we are definitely praying for the people of Israel and all innocent people in Gaza. God bless you all and keep you safe from these terrorists.
Has Australia done anything to respond appropriately to those people in Sydney who called for another Holocaust?
@@baker_cannerFree speech enables people to come out and expose themselves. Best we know who the haters are so they they and their connections can be monitored.
Hopefully public distaste will encourage less immigration of the wrong people.
Best quote "Being an intellectual doesn't mean you can't be a monster, it means you sound better doing monstrous things"
Let's not forget about the french marxist professors who taught Pol Pot in University and turned him into a raging lunatic who went back to Cambodia and k\lled nearly a million of his own people through starvation and tort*re, it's weird how they are never brought up when discussing that brutal period of Cambodia's history.
It's also weird how in the 1970s the marxist ideology had created so many bodies, intellectuals decided to repackage it as "post-modernism" instead of admitting the whole thing is wrong.
Big media ties? No thanks. These settlers had it coming. They kill palestinian kids every month for years. "One shot, two kills" look it up. This IDF guy is a talking headpiece for Israeli propaganda. 😂 Look into this a bit more deeply.
Counting the calories that enter a country, military occupation and lockdowns, claiming terrorism when these people stand the fuck up.
Ashkenazi Zionists are NOT Jews. Zionists hate Jews. Zionists hate christians. You're all being played.
It's kinda ironic how the statements swings both ways.
@@rantanplan178 This is exactly what I was thinking. That someone could say that they are for ethnic cleansing in Gaza and then immediately acknowledge that being an intellectual doesn´t mean you can´t be a monster.
It goes to show that the international community is being irresponsible by not taking charge of the situation.
Israelies are also victims, its not just the Palestinians.
We don´t let victims administer justice by deciding the sentence of their aggressors. That wouldn´t be justice, it would be revenge.
Why should the international community let either one side decide what happens to the other?
@@ScamallDorcha The international community is largely responsible for this whole mess. By allowing the Palestinians to languish in Gaza and allowing three Arab league to retain them as proxy fighters for their famous three "Nos" the people have been left to fight a war they have been egged on too. Perhaps the international communities inability to decide what to do with the Palestinians and their lack of a spine to dealing with the Arab states should remove them from this mess and allow the two sides to hash it out.
Awesome interview. Learned a whole lot. Thank you Haviv for your time and may God Bless you and the people of Israel. Jack, thanks for brining to us this interview.
So much propergander... Sad
@@rogerward9684it's truly despicable😂
I would say, this was one of the best interviews. Please bring Haviv back again soon. FYI, I am an Iranian, and we and many Iranians support Israel. We know exactly how that Islamist mentality works as we have experienced them for 44 years. Long live Israel.
If the US and Israel really want to get rid of the Mullahs, all they need to do is take out the IRGC bases and leave the rest to the Iranian people. People have been fighting these religious thugs for years but without any support from the world.
You're joking. Your country is next. Israel is already pushing in liberal news that Iran backed the recent "hamas" attack. The US and Israel have had your country on the list for years. Trump even said generals were pushing him to attack Iran. I really cant believe how gulluble people are.
I’m just curious why are some Iranians supporting Israel? Are they mostly Christian or even muslim? And is it because they hate the IRGC so much that they support any enemy of IRGC? I’m just curious about the mind set of any Iranian/muslim /Arab that supports Israel Thank you for your support !!
You might get your wish if Iran intervenes in Gaza.
It is very simple. The IRGC doesn't represent Iran. It shows in their name Islamic Republic Gaurd Corps. They are not all Iranian nationals. They have a large number of foreigners in their ranks, from Iraq, Lebanon, and recently Afghanistan. They are there to protect the oppressive violent mullahs' theocracy and have zero national interest in Iran. They are not a typical army but rather an army of Ometh( which in English means the nation of Islam that does not recognize any border). They have killed and tortured thousands of Iranian dissidents in and outside of Iran...I can go on and on. all I can tell you they are hated since they are a tool of the Islamic government and they have been killing Iranians for 44 years. Note Iran has a national army and forces, but they are disfranchised and have one-tenth of the IRGC power. Let me know if you have any other questions. I will be glad to elaborate @@keeto1234
Islam came to that part of the land Palestine at the same time it came to Iran. Please go study justo for yourself & don’t rely on one sided propaganda! The 1st century Christians were & still are in Palestine, as well as other Christian communities. Armenians, Coptic, etc etc.
One of the best single interviews I’ve heard on the subject. This needs to have millions of views. Thank you Jack.
Your guest was so great I could have been listening to him for twelve hours! Congratulations!
Same here. I didn’t want it to stop either
Thank you for the clarity on this horrific problem. I stand with Israel and always have.
Excellent interview and information for Americans like myself trying to figure all of this out. Prayers for Israel 🇮🇱
Same has me from england .I posted this out too my friends which I have not got many
Please include ALL BRITS THAT ARE DEMASTRATING FOR HAMAS .... NOT PALESTINIANS!!!!
Wow, the first 23 mins... A history that I have never been told / taught. Thank you Haviv!
I had to come back and watch this a second time. This man should be talking all over the place.
I will add, even though Israel takes care of themselves; my prayers are with Israel. 🙏🏻✝️🇮🇱❤️
I wish here were more people like this man. Calm dignified eloquent
Mosab Hassan Yousef son of Hamas founder, speech at UN on UA-cam is also brilliant.
Wow, such awesome intelligence, thank you. Both of you men are Valiant, the questions and answers were Spot on, lifted my head, they grounded me even deeper in the support of the precious Jewish people and their Holy Land. Praying ,fasting, & contributing for your success. Multiple Millions of people around the world are doing the same. Many recognize your greatness by you are the ONLY Nation of people who could carry The WORDS of The ONLY LIVING LORD GOD, in the Torah. The Light loves you, the darkness hates you. GOD IS WITH YOU! 🇮🇱🎺⚖📖🔔🎵🙏ISRAEL IS FOREVER🙏😇😎🌵from Southern Arizona, USA❤✡
Incredible interview. What an articulate, knowledgeable, pleasant man, despite the horror of all this.
Thank you Jack and Mr. Gur!
What a sad commentary on news when we have to get info like this here and not a more mainstream platform.
It's abundantly clear that this man has spent a lot of time thinking about these complex and interwoven issues. His nuanced musings reflect the confronting history behind modern geopolitical realities and the challenging nature of complex facts on the ground. Thanks for bringing us another great podcast episode and a valuable interview!
As an American Israeli jew this is reassuring to hear the real truth about my people God bless you Jack ❤
He conveniently ignored alooot
Let's hope you or your relatives are NOT part the libtard Jewish class. I'm Sephardic and conservative, less libtards in my tribe.
Thank the guest for taking the time to review the historical context that we find ourselves in.
Even if we assume that “both sides do bad things”, it’s clear to me that one of the side’s mission is to eradicate the other side. I don’t see the Israeli’s intention the same
it infuriates me that young anti- Zionists seem so sure that it was all Israel’s fault
Alot of these people that support these atrocities also support defunding the police, that should tell you alot about their morality. What upsets me the most is when people in safe, rich countries start chanting that countries that are defending themselves against existential threats must just put down their guns and accept their fate. And btw, Israel is pretty tough on gun control, that's one reason these innocent people were completely defenseless.
Protect your family and your property first, don't listen to criminals who try and shame you into commiting $uicide.
Incredibly powerful, informative, heartbreaking hearing of his friends. Jack thank you for sharing this information. "We have no where to go"
“Nowhere to go” because no one in world history has wanted them anywhere nearby. What other group can claim that dubious distinction. But, hey, there can’t possibly be a good reason for that - it’s just random chance, right?!?!
@@avaltewarehousso what is the solution then if they are hated by everyone?
Well in same time couple of weeks ago very same Isreal was supporting/helping Azerbedjan in ethnic cleansing of Armenians from Nagorno Karabakh. So yes go figure...Not everything that shines is gold Israel has also lots of blood on it's hands
thoughtful respectful conversation with 2 beautiful human beings discussing facts with compassion and understanding thank you both for your insights and your courage
Hello Jack,
First time viewer of yours. I must say, my news channels of late have been very difficult to watch. I have been looking for a less emotional response and a breakdown of the Palestinian/Israeli Conflict that was cohesive, succinct and as objective as one can be under the circumstances. I found Haviv Gur to be fascinating, fair, and clear. I have listened to your conversation with him maybe 10 or more times in its entirety and am still getting something out of it each time. I would like to show my appreciation to both you and Haviv for this conversation as I have really been struggling to find understanding and clarity with respect to this conflict. I knew instantly how I felt about these terrorist attacks, but I was lacking the historical and current sentiment between Israel and Hamas with which to frame my throughts. Once again, thank you so much for this conversation.
Thank you, Jack! Thank you for having this man explain what is really going on since mainstream media won't. Much respect to you, sir. And again, THANK YOU for your service!
God bless America and Israel.
and Palestine
What an interview and hats off to Haviv for somehow keeping it together through all of that. You could feel the raw emotion behind him threatening to break through the dam and to still speak with such clarity was something else. Watching this unfold and so many people coming out in support of Hamas has been an awful experience. The woman I love is Jewish, people I grew up with down the street are jewish and I cant imagine how this is for them. Hamas is a cancer. They've got to go and I do not care how it gets done. Thanks for your words and time Haviv.
@JackCarr Thank you for Inviting Haviv to your podcast, this wasn't just a regular conversation. This was an absolute lecture you and Haviv gifted us here! I am deeply appreciative of what you folks have done here. The Right side will prevail! Israel and world will have this story to tell as tail to generations to come! ❤
Powerful interview.
Gut wrenching to watch.
You can feel the pain of this man, and the now singular focus of an entire country.
There can be no Hamas in this world . . no matter what it takes. Very prophetic words spoken by a resolute man.
there can be no gaza occupation either
Gaza is not occupied . . Israel left in 2005@@polpol1005
@@pec757Gaza is undersiege for nearly 16 year after the US wanted a palestianian elections.The blockade started after hamas won those elections. Not because of any rockets.
By the way amnesty international, human rights watch as well as isreal B tslem all call isreal an apartheid state infact the US placed pressure on the plastinian liberation organizations when they wanted the icc to investigate hamas and isreal occupation forces for war crimes it would take years later when they did.
Why does the US not recognize amnesty international report on Israel why hamper the icc?
Who ruled Gaza when the PLO was established? Who ruled Gaza before 7/10? What would Hamas do if Israel left Gaza and the West Bank?@@polpol1005
Thanks to Jack and Mike Glover. You guys keep it real and engage where necessary.
Thanks for doing this, both of you. I learned so much, he is a great teacher. I stand with Israel and will continue to pray.
I have read all of your books, but had never listened to any of your podcasts. This morning a link to this was posted in a forum that I frequent, for which I am grateful. I have listened to many other podcasts, THIS is without a doubt the most powerful I have ever heard.
Thank you for doing this Jack. This is one of the clearest and complete interviews I’ve heard on the subject. Thank you!
A definate must listen. Kudos to Jack Carr for bringing Haviv Rettig to talk about this.
Jack, thank you for sharing this with America.
MUST WATCH … BEST Summary of Jewish History, Culture and Politics. Sobering, thoughtful commentary. Thank YOU 🙏 🍻
"their first crime against humanity was committed against Jews, their second is being committed against Palestinians by hiding under them." let that soak in... this man is teaching us all and Jack is listening as we all should be.
Exactly! Imagine supporting “men” who target Israeli children and then hide behind Palestinian children to escape accountability. All the Americans today claiming to be supporters of the Palestinian people are anything but. They are supporting evil cowards who from Qatari penthouses offer their own people up on a platter for misery entirely to keep their mission of genocide alive. Once again, the American people proving to be unspeakably stupid. I’d remind you, these are the same people who demand no police, open borders, and the legalization of child gender transitions. They said kids college students needed “safe spaces” because Trump won and yet see no reason to provide any support for Jewish kids on campus passing by mobs of people openly praising Hamas. Bragging about how all they needed was hang-gliders. This insanity is out of control. It is not sustainable.
This guy conveniently skipped ALOOOOT.
@@awakenyisrael Yeah, you keep saying that In a BUNCH of comments... Care to tell us what he "skipped"??? or no?
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9 days later and this waste still can't explain LMAO
@chilloutdude3617 a "bunch"? Maybe listen to your own avatar name. 🤔 and if you have read the whole lot of the "bunch"... then you would habe seen the multitude of examples given, that I encourage others to investigate. This doesn't mean I think the other side is sooo awesome, I can pick them apart as well, but right now there is genocide happening, and many of those people are followers of Yahusha and I will call the demons perpetrating it out, while you support them. Get a clue , read some history, Scofield lied to you and the Milner group LOVES the simple minded. Bless your heart.
@@awakenyisraelexactly what? Dont just say he skipped over it, tell us what has been skipped and your credible source. From all I already knew on this subject, this man did a fantastic overview of the whoke situation....jus saying
This was a fascinating discussion. Haviv was highly informative as to the history of Israel along with the conflicts with the Arab world.
Thank you for this excellent podcast; it’s one that I immediately shared as widely as possible.
The information covered will prove helpful to many seeking to understand the nature of this new conflict. I’ve been a student of Middle Eastern affairs, Israel, the Diaspora, and the Jewish experience for many years, but I also gained a new and valued perspective on the broader subject tonight.
My heart has been broken for the suffering of the people of Israel; particularly for the many wonderful Israeli men and women we know and love; for their families, friends, and colleagues. But we are so proud of them, grateful to be their friends, and will be continually praying for them and all Israel - Jewish and Arab, as the country faces this existential crisis.
The information presented here is indeed excellent but, as Christians, our entire worldview is formed by the Bible, so our understanding of the connection between the Jewish people and the land of Israel extends far earlier than the 140 years covered here. On the basis of our faith, trust, and love of the Lord, and our firm belief in His Word, as well as historical facts and International Law, we stand squarely with Israel. And we will do whatever we can to support her, by the grace and power of Almighty God; the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Am Israel Chai!
Thank you to you both for the clear very believable explanation...may God be with you
thanks for allowing your guest to really share the story. I appreciate all your shows (and love your books!) This was helpful to understand the world around us.
This has been a great eye opener. I served in the U.S. Navy. I know my oath is for my lifetime. I feel this conflict is sick! How does killing and beheading children be supported? I grew up in a school system and community that included Jewish, Catholic, Protestant children and families. How can we help make our global village safe?
This video is so good that I wish it could be seen by every single person in the collective west.
Jack, Thank You for giving Haviv the time and another avenue to tell his story.
Thank you for this Jack and Haviv for taking time to really lay out the history and current state of affairs. 🙏🏽
Haviv , first allow me to express my condolences for the horrific abomination that was committed against Israel and her children. We are praying for the peace and salvation of Israel as well as for the Muslims to seek after a future peace with Israel and an end to the demonic atrocities that their people have committed. 😢
Thanks for this, Jack. You certainly picked the right guy to tell the story. Easily the best I've seen on the subject. ~Frank
I was busy cleaning, listening to podcast and this just pops on. I was gonna change it but my hands were wet. I was hanging on every word within minutes. This really was informative and helped me have a clearer view of of this highly confusing situation that as someone with minimal knowledge of the history can somewhat grasp. Thank you.
After reading this "Haviv Rettig Gur is an Israeli journalist who serves as the political correspondent and senior analyst for The Times of Israel" I realize that it is totally unbiased commentary and I know exactly the two sides of the story from only one source, big saving in time too, that is wonderful!
No one said it would be unbiased . He is Jewish , of course there will be bias . No one is telling you WHAT to think . He is giving his perspective. But , despite bias his facts on the history of events are correct .
Feel free to go back to your Ecco chamber
Well let me summarize Hamas for you, "we want to exterminate every single jew on the planet and set up a worldwide caliphate." If you want a 2 state solution fine, I could agree with that. But Hamas isnt going to get a seat at the table nor should they.
Avid podcast listener for long, long time now. Very much appreciate the work of the talented Jack Carr. After the start of this episode I needed to stop all the to-do stuff to intently listen to Haviv Rettig Gur. INCREDIBLE. While I know much of the last 100+ years of Jewish history this historical overview is vitally important to the Judeo-Christian Belief System. The timeliness of this conversation is inspired! Had no idea that Jack Carr has a You Tube Channel - or maybe I did - regardless, indeed fortunate to find this one in particular after a quick search so I can say THANK YOU TO YOU BOTH. I did not think I could love and respect Israel anymore than I already do yet after this conversation and after October 7, 2023 onward no matter what I remain Standing for Israel as I have for nearly 70 years.
..again spot on, your nation has hope and strength when your young men and women are willing to sacrifice and serve for the greater good..what struck me as a life long soldier is that after you see enough is that there's no hate, just resolve...I totally get that feeling that somethings just needs to be done to prevent things from ever happening again and that feeling of guilt in the failure to protect the innocent..
Excellent interview and very grateful for clarity and truth. Many prayers for those who grieve!
That was a great discussion with Haviv. He's an intelligent man who shares his views well
Thank you Haviv and Jack - By far the best "how we got here" breakdown I have heard at the top of this pod, followed by clear-eyed, laser-focused view on where this is going. Great work.
This is a history lesson and great explanation of Jewish life that everyone should hear. Thanks to you both for shinning light on a dark time.
This was a spectacularly useful interview, thank you both for the effort to dig through this.
Thank you Jack for being a great interviewer. You have the gift of mostly staying silent and "HEARING" your subject's story. I liked Charlie Rose for a similar gift, though my politics is opposite of his. If I want to learn the story, I don't need politics. I already have my politics. I need info, and your style gathers that for me. Thank you.
This has been one of the best over view of the whole situation, God’s blessings and safety to the Soldiers ‼️🇮🇱
I am a Jew, descended from a White Russian and a Romanian grandparents; I was, am so moved by Haviv's equipoise and calm charm brought to mind Carpenter's 'Starman' in which the alien says "...you are at your best when things are at their very worst..." L'Chaim!
I left this podcast a lot smarter than when I started. A very unique perspective on the history and attitudes of the Isreali people. I am looking for more interviews with him or his writings.
Excellent show as always. Informative and succinct history of modern Israel and the dynamics. My oldest son is a senior at UF. Proud of the school and it’s stance supporting Israel. He will be a Marine Officer at this time next year and I couldn’t be prouder for him.
He's reciting Zionist propaganda. Jews are supposed to remain stateless and not rule over land.
Zionists were paid a shitton of money by the Rothschilds et al to go live there and forsake their religion.
You're being played.
I am watching this now 9 months after it was filmed, after the invasion and massacre. First of all, thank you for your concern and for interviewing someone as knowledgeable and with the integrity of Haviv Rettig Gur. What breaks my heart is, listening to Haviv and his understanding of what was about to happen, and how things were going to happen in the near and not too distant future. As an Israeli, it is my feeling that either Haviv or Michael Oren are some of the most well informed and correct experts. Where things broke down and did not proceed as Haviv predicted had to do primarily with one thing more than any other - the incredibly bad running of everything military and political, by the politicians both in the U.S. and in Israel. The fact that Biden sent the carrier groups over, and made tough sounding statements supposedly warning Iran and others, including Hizbullah, not to get involved, (e.g., "If you're thinking of getting involved, Don't!"), the actual policies of the American administration and State Department have been disastrous. From the beginning, putting pressure on Israel not to hit Hamas too hard, not to make too much of a war in Gaza, caving in to domestic political interests having to do with the progressive wing of the Democratic party and other election-related issues. The most recent f--k-up on their part, demanding endlessly that Israel NOT go into Rafah, with the National Security Council saying it would take four months to move the population out - Israel did it in 12 days. But the f-k-ups started about the time of this filming. In no time at all, as Haviv said, between 120-130% of reservists called showed up - people who weren't even called up came to fight. There were 300,000 troops ready for a ground war, and they sat idle for weeks, while the Biden administration warned that a full-scale military response would cause too many civilian casualties. The fact that the Biden administration put pressure on Israel not to start the ground war is on them. However, the fault for finally caving in to the demands falls in the laps of Israel's politicians. Netanyahu's government caved to the pressure, and as a result gave up a huge amount, and caused the hostages and their families weeks of endless suffering. The way this war has been fought has been so careful that it has led to a civilian-to-combatant ratio of killed in fighting of 1-to-1. I believe for the Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan, much like most modern militaries, had a ratio of 9 civilians to every 1 combatant. Still, Biden and Western politicians around the world, not to mention the news media and academics, all crying about too many civilian casualties. How many? We don't know, but... whatever the number, its too many! Its genocide!! - which is a particularly obscene lie, one used every time Israel fights Palestinians. They make up numbers for casualties and they are gobbled down and spit back out by the politicians, news media, and academics around the world. The number 30,000 dead, parroted by Biden and all the rest came from the Gaza Health Ministry - which is Hamas. But they never mentioned that fact, or the fact that the numbers had never been substantiated. And of course it turned out that even the U.N. and Hamas itself said the numbers were too high - exaggerated. But still, we see 30,000 or 35,000 killed, often even claiming that number represents civilians.
Nevertheless, political pressure put on Israel has caused months of needless delays. And Hizbullah in the north? Every-F--king Day, rockets, drones, anti-tank missiles are fired on civilian areas in the north of Israel. There are, today, somewhere between 80,000 and 90,000 "internal refugees" - Israelis who have been moved out of their homes and have been living in hotels or with relatives for 9 months now. Why? Because Hizbullah is firing at civilian targets every day. One-third of the town of Metulla has been flattened. Thousands of missiles, drones, and rockets, what other country in the world would be expected to ignore this constant state of war? And what happened to the carrier group in the Mediterranean, supposedly to warn off others from getting involved (and let's not forget the 300 missiles, drones, and rockets fired from Iran at Israel)? It was pulled back and out. Now the policy is to warn Israel not to go to war with Hizbullah. And still, the administration refuses to change the Obama plan for peace in the mid-East, which is to coddle, placate, and appease Iran! Hundreds of billions of dollars were freed up, a great deal of which was used to fund the Iranian proxies and other terrorists groups. Iran has openly said that it plans to destroy Israel - as a first step on the way to destroy the "Great Satan:, the United States. Still, the administration refuses to admit that Iran is at war with the West, including the U.S. They just can't seem to let go of the Obama "strategy."
Sorry to go on so, but what Haviv predicted should have been accurate. The errors are not his, they are the political errors of the American administration and Israel's government. In addition to the needless additional suffering of hostages and their families, the number of casualties in the IDF, because Israel is spending so many of our soldiers lives trying to keep Palestinian civilians alive. Hundreds KIA, thousands wounded. And what does Israel get in return for this? Accusations of genocide, from everybody from Hollywood "stars" to political and academic hacks, to journalists - on and on. There is no basis whatsoever for these accusations, nevertheless, the "protesters" chant away, led by Palestinian and other Muslim outside agitators. Unless you are foolish enough to believe that students from over 200 universities all across the U.S. suddenly all agreed, spontaneously - to have these massive demonstrations and shut down their campuses, with identical tents, keffiyehs, signs, strategies, chants, all the same... Sorry, I am going on again. Just thank you to Jack Carr and to Haiv Rettig Gur, for coming on and agreeing to be interviewed this close after the invasion and massacre. It is clear to see how much this is costing him emotionally. And he doesn't even discuss here the rapes of women and children, and men - some of it filmed by Hamas as they were doing it, now denied by the defenders and supporters of Hamas, nor the mutilation and torture and many of the more barbaric actions of the Palestinians who invaded on October 7, 2023. Yes, the Palestinians. Too often we see the "Hamas" invasion or attack. Who/what is Hamas? It is 100% Palestinian organization. In the "acceptable narrative", Palestinians must always be victims, even when they are the perpetrators. Anyway, thanks. Out.
Really just such a great interview. Kudos to you for listening to your guest and not interrupting. Fascinating ! Thank you
Thank you for a much needed talk on what's happening in Israel. Our prayers are with you.
Thank you both. This was so powerful and eye opening. God speed.
One of the best discussions I’ve heard on the subject so far . Thank you 🙏
What wonderful content, so much context on the israeli situation that I had no idea about. Great, great work
Whst a wonderful 150 year history Haviv has told us in your interview. I knew some of the history prior, but he put it much more in focus for us now. Thank you Haviv!
Amazing, new insights into history I wish I'd known before!
Thank you Haviv. I have yet to hear a more eloquent and knowledgable speaker on this. Such a valuable source
Mr. Gur is a treasure and a big thanks to Jack.
Well-done Jack. I watched this after watching your interview with RFKjr. Both exemplary. Thank you! Glenn Tamir
Thanks for this. A lot of good information I did not know. Praying for Israel and all of Gods people.
there's no Gods people
This answered all the questions I had! Thank you! Its a very bad situation, but sometimes things need to happen!
Thank you both for this interview. It really helps provide a level of clarity so necessary as this conflict progresses.
This is the best explanation of what actually occurred. Thank you so much!
What an incredibly erudite, reasoned and rational explanation by Mr. Gur, at a time of such incredible emotional distress. I cannot understand how Hamas thought this would not unite Israel in an existential war. It would seem to be the most counterproductive action that Hamas could have taken.
Imagine your an Arab Muslim living in gaza, you were a loud to vote your own government 17 years ago, trouble is, for whatever reason, Israel/US are not happy! That was 17 years ago, every 4 or 5 years Israel mow the lawn, you lose everything, home, wife, kid, job, mosque, bakery, school...life is no better in the west bank. Meanwhile Israel is more military! Police! Checkpoints! Walls! Surveillance!
Palestinians have nothing! No vote! No military! No voice! Betrayed! Meanwhile Israel getting more far right, more volient, The US seems to encourage Israel, even made Jerusalem home for US embassy, everyone knows Palestinians want Jerusalem! But Israel poke & poke! With backing from US/UK/UN, wars with Lebanon, war with Egypt, dragging everyone else to war! But Israel have no shame! When a superpower with nukes repeat 40 beheaded babies from the president, on tv, shown all over the world, again & again & again. The world knows exactly what Israel will do? Overreaction! Overkill! But I never thought 10 months! 40.000 dead. 70% gaza flattered. The mask of Israel slipped! Day after day watching how nasty, spiteful & hate mixed with revenge mixed with the language towards towards Palestinians, by 28th October I went on my 1st pro Palestine marche in London. The media said its radical & volient, the people I saw got my respect, it was respectful & want Palestinians to have self Determination.
History did not start October 7
I'm not under cover for iran.
I want peace, stop these wars, stop occupation, stop settlers, stop settlement.
Gaza will have Jewish settlers stealing land as it has for 75 years. Israel want their cake & eat it too, Israel didn't like the PLO before hamas, same old, rinse & repeat. Israel scares me more than hamas, maybe look at yourself because from where I am standing, Israel is sick, rotten, hateful, supremacy. This man can not support Israel with a straight face, weather its called hamas PLO ABC XYZ.
What an amazing interview! An eye opener. Thank you both.
This was truly an eye opening and sobering podcast, well done, compelling and bias feee, thank you for hosting this and god bless Israel
Very informative. Thank you for creating the space for these kinds of discussions.
Great conversation. Thanks Jack and Haviv. Crazy times.
Thank you for taking the time to explain this…
Thank you both from the bottom of my heart.
I have nothing but respect for for you. Amazingly sad story. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you both, very insightful, in-depth, and truly heartbreaking. As A Man, I would never ever conceive the Cowardice, As a father , a brother, a husband., a warrior , I get it. , We can fix stupid, but it’s gonna hurt.., They have it comin,
Gaza is extremely small, perhaps you have some ideas on where they can put their fighting positions so that when israel bombs them civilians won't get hurt?
Totally unacceptable to murder innocent Jews - they are all humans MADE BY GOD and IT IS A DEVIL AGENDA TO MURDER INNOCENT PEOPLE THAT THEY HATE ??? BUT "WHY"???!!!
This is a fabulous interview. The historical explanation is articulate and concise and without exaggeration. Thank you for this interview.