Humans: Please stop attacking our friends. Xeno: We will attack whoever we want and you can't stop us! Humans: Fine. Then we will take your sun. Xeno: Wait, what?
That definitely sounds like a 4 star general or admiral made a outlandish request to the wrong engineer. Like,... " our colonies are to spread out. How can we defend them! We need faster ships or a way to bring those colonies closer! I don't care which,... GET IT DONE!!!" That sounds about right
"We found some new friends! Three of them. They're friendly and in an alliance with each other." "Oh good!" "They want to join us and move in." "Sending the Removal Vans... How many systems do they want to move?" "Over 200." "Oh marvellous! I've the perfect place lined up already!"
Humans: Please stop attacking our allies. Xenos: We are the mighty Tengra empire! We won't bow down to no one! Humans: We have ships that can transport and crack planets, and that's just the civilian corporate stuff........your call.
This one made me shiver in dread! What a horrible idea! One of the main reasons people form up colonies on distant parts , is to get way from their former circle of friends, acquaintances, colleagues, neighbours, parents, siblings , and all the rest of the well wishers, who insist they have a say in how you ought to live your life. If you eliminate the distance, discomfort of travel and possible danger, what's the use? If the new colony is close enough, your parents can visit over the weekend.. might as well stay home!
Imagine if everyone could have a large space to call their own, but still be close enough to visit family. This is much better than the pods you would see otherwise.
Even on Earth, which is just a single, small planet, people can already do that. Multiply by 10. Or even 100. You can still get away from people easily.
@peterwalls-qf7ii : There are different types of cultures in humanity. Some welcome community and desire the proximity of neighbors. If I were to guess, you're probably from another type which prefers solitary life and to have much distance between the individuals. However, the tight community seems to have better communal defense and rapid technological development than the solitary folk can ever dream of.
@@SelwynClydeAlojipan Actually, if you look around, it is the tight nit inner cities that are devolving, not the suburbs or rural areas. Humans are social creatures, yes. But we are not meant to live like ants.
@@nunya3163 Agreed: we love having a community around us, friends and family near... but our own space, and nature near, able to walk, be alone when needed, de-stress. I live in a small village a few miles from a mid-sized town, and just 45 mins drive away from my nation's capital - just right. Enough people around so I'm not isolated and alone, but enough space for peace and quiet. Now my own planet in this lovely, insanely human style super-star-system, close enough to others for a quick warp jump to get the shopping or visit the relatives, pop in on interesting new alien neighbours a hours warp jump away, yet still a whole ass planet to garden? Sounds like heaven.
Its cool to imagine layers of stars stacked, multiple orbits whirling around the intricate string of stars pointing to and away from the direction Sol is travelling and each having their own orbits parallel to our own... Other than that, stars are so big it's hard to picture how else the system could be arranged
I have a wacky idea for you. Consider a binary star system. The stars could be so far apart that planets in their habitable zones remain in very stable orbits. A binary pair could orbit with another binary pair much further apart oh, so you have a greater binary system that is actually a total of four stars. And then you can go up even another level probably, two quartets of stars that take tens of thousands of years or more to rotate around their bary-center, all of them with their own solar systems. You probably can't go higher, but you might be able to have a conga line of octonary systems following the same trajectory around the galaxy. You wouldn't have to be all that far away in the grand scheme of things for this to appear to be a string of light crawling through space.
Gravity works as a sphere not just a plain so as long as the orbits are stable you could even jump orbits going form a oval to a infinity loop. So you could orbits more then one star at a time.
With enough celestial bodies, you can even make quadrilateral Orbits, or triangles, hearts, ogons, prisms, pyramids, or something as ridiculous as a dodecahedron @@loganshaw4527
Most likely just refueling the star. Would be bizarre once it does end it's extended life span. Alot of different elements are made during the normal life spans. This could be 10 or 100 times the quantity.
This is another great way to expand an empire that is seldom explored in other mediums. Reminded me of the story where all the asteroids in our solar system were mined or used to house small habitation modules, first come first served to property acquisition rights which pushed a heavily aggressive colonization initiative. They then had ships that not only dove into our sun to extract fuel, but also had a several million mile long super dense metal rod continuously being extracted from the sun to fuel out own construction efforts, which in my opinion was a take on how stars create new elements when they compress during supernova. Of course, aliens try to sneak in to invade by disguising their ships as asteroids, but are quickly torn apart and mined, never to be discovered that they were really an invasion fleet. They were happy shortly after to be recognized as possible future trade partners under friendly terms, and we're not in any hurry to speak the truth.
What a delightful little story! I enjoyed that immensely. And I'm so happy to see you looking fit as a fiddle. You are one of my favorite people and I'm so glad to see you back doing what you love so much❤
Ah, harvesting in preparation for the Dyson Sphere, I see. Smart, syphon feeding Sol from stolen stars to keep it main sequence forever. I cannot quite grasp the scale of the ships, however. The sheer scale of a star- to witness a ring settle around on It. Over presumed seconds of time, it would be moving super luminally, and such mass moving close to essentially a plasma ball would have overwhelmed the careful stellar balance going on in there. So, yeah. wow. Nice engineering of the handwavium variety. We stand impressed.
@@loganshaw4527 Isn't the problem with 'star poisoning' the accumlation of heavy elements? Remove the heavy elements and the star keeps going. (And yes you probably would need a fresh supply of hydrogen long term)
@@catprog the problem is indeed the heavier elements. It is a ticking time bomb for "later" but is delayed if the star is still using hydrogen the problems start as soon as it burns through the hydrogen and has to switch to heavier and heavier elements to burn. "You would think it burns everything all at once. But it infact is much easier to fuse lighter elements first. So it gets fused first."
@@catprogin addition to what Loganshaw4527 said, if I recall my Astronomy class correct, every element up until Iron has a positive net return of energy when used as fusion fuel. Admittedly the return decreases significantly the higher the atomic number. Iron is the first element that has a net negative energy return. That's why all of the iron and heavier elements came from stars in their death throws. For most stars though the process usually stops around Boron and Carbon as they don't have the necessary mass for gravity to act on to cause carbon to fuse.
A Great and original story. Thank you for the wonderful narration. It could be better than watching a movie of the same story. Be well, my friend, and as Spock would say, 'Live Long and Prosper' I would say, Love Life, Live Long, and Prosper.
... If you can FTL to another system in less than a day, how can moving people and building in another star system be more expensive be more expensive than to move whole stars? It's an awesome flex, but c'mon! XD And I love the concept of planet cracking.
It's the lag/delay. Necessitating a much larger standing force. And all the logistics issues that _that_ entails. Compress the area being covered into something traversable in minutes. Now you only need two or three 'hubs' to cover all colonies. The logistics issues extend to civilian sector as well.
A very simple way to describe it... Imagine amazon being the ones who came up with the technology. They don't care that they can get to other systems in a single day, The closer planets and systems are the less they have to pay in shipping.
I could imagine that convo about moving there empire to the mini galaxy being made so uh are we able to like move in? humans uh yeah we xan get ya a spot xenos alright that was easier then expected also that invading empire definetly got put into time out would not be surprised if therw sun ans worlds got sheiled aswell
The human plan of gradually transporting much of the matter in the galaxy would eventually have dire consequences. With all the planets and stars in one small area of the galaxy, eventually the gravitational balance of the galaxy would become unbalanced enough to cause systems on the side of the galaxy opposite to the Sol system would be too far away from the galaxy's center of mass. This would cause many solar systems to just drift out into interstellar space. Granted, this would take a while, but it seems that humanity in this story are growing at a logarithmic (if not exponential) rate. This means the rate of their acquisitions of stellar bodies will only increase over time. Eventually an emerging civilization on the other side of the galaxy will discover that their entire region of space is drifting outwards into the void. That is some metaphysical terror, right there.
The same reason that if we ever meet an alien race their home world has a very real chance of being called effectively earth with a lowercase E. Earth means dirt, which our planet is made of. Very imaginative. Sol is sun/light. Very imaginative. The dirt beneath our feat and the light in the sky translates back into itself.
@@DemonicpurityIt's the reason that linguists always use the local tribes name for themselves... Rather than translating it to the proper english translation which would simply be human.
The series are on his other channel... Yes I do miss his really long videos as well, But the algo punishes it now. They really want creators to make shorter content, so he divided it up.
in a way... having ships apply centrifugal mechanics to pretend gravity , in combat it doess present the interesting aspect that you can have the super structure maintain stationary position yet constantly present new sides of its surface to any aggressor that tryess to 'focus fire' a single section hmm though this story... space orcs ? nha.. more like space progenitors or techno titans
Just a generic nerd ramble: Makes me think of Sean Raymond's ultimate solar system. But in that case, you need far fewer stars, or even better throw in a super massive black hole at the centre and reach really absurd numbers. If tech developed down a very unexpected route, I figure this might indeed be feasible, but with very similar levels of tech development, it would become far far easier to just build something like culture orbitals from the planets, or even Niven ringworlds instead of being so awfully inefficient with all that excess volume/surface area. Admittedly not quite as spectacular a view from the surface as this would produce.
Such a waste of material, especially if you have grav tech. Think of a normal human home. All the air directly above it, all the material directly above it… all that material to provide a single home with atmo, presure and gravity. All that material supporting one home could be used to build an entire space habitat for over a million people. Planets and moons that get harvested shouldn’t be remade into planets. Make space habs
Or if they don't have enough people to fill the planets as is, they can just move a planet and not bother with the extra steps of building a habit. Yes it is a waste of materials but they have a lot to play with.
@@catprog what do you mean by “not enough people”? Because it sounds like you are saying “if you don’t have enough people to put in an O’Neil Cylinder.. just move a planet” If you don’t have enough people to fill a habitat with 0.5-5 million people, then you don’t waste the effort moving a planet. Most especially you don’t dismantle a planet to make another planet. Dismantle them and making habitats gives you 100x-1000x more living space per unit mass
@@TheGelatinousSnake 2 billion people per planet * 1 thousand planets = 2 trillion people. What I am saying is more like "If a planet becomes over populated then go and grab another planet and you have more living space." Their planet moving tech means they don't need to build the O'Neil cylinders to get that space.
@@catprog planets are still far too wasteful, and less defensible. Still better off dismantling one planet for about 500 planets worth of living space. Each individual one can be customized. Master the Space Habs, almost every star is worth colonizing.
I could imagine the terran coms: "We found something cute, Can we keep it and bring it home?"
An appropriate reaction to alien birb 🦜😁
An artificial galaxy, for when a Dyson swarm or Ringworld isn't a big enough flex for your species..
Humans: Please stop attacking our friends.
Xeno: We will attack whoever we want and you can't stop us!
Humans: Fine. Then we will take your sun.
Xeno: Wait, what?
Do I need to separate the two of you?
*moves Xeno's home system to the other side of the galaxy*
Leave it to humanity to casually steal an empire's entire star
This is a time out.
Do not start any Wars.
Or Else!
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That definitely sounds like a 4 star general or admiral made a outlandish request to the wrong engineer. Like,... " our colonies are to spread out. How can we defend them! We need faster ships or a way to bring those colonies closer! I don't care which,... GET IT DONE!!!" That sounds about right
Then the general became visibly annoyed because he wanted faster warships but couldn't say anything because his orders were followed.
It seems like they got both faster ships and closer colony worlds.
"We found some new friends! Three of them. They're friendly and in an alliance with each other."
"Oh good!"
"They want to join us and move in."
"Sending the Removal Vans... How many systems do they want to move?"
"Over 200."
"Oh marvellous! I've the perfect place lined up already!"
That's one way to become multiplanetary species... What an awesome story and narration!
Humans: Please stop attacking our allies.
Xenos: We are the mighty Tengra empire! We won't bow down to no one!
Humans: We have ships that can transport and crack planets, and that's just the civilian corporate stuff........your call.
That sounds like the most human thing ever to do!
Like 6 year olds.
"Oh pretty rock. I'll take that home with me!"
This one made me shiver in dread! What a horrible idea!
One of the main reasons people form up colonies on distant parts , is to get way from their former circle of friends, acquaintances, colleagues, neighbours, parents, siblings , and all the rest of the well wishers, who insist they have a say in how you ought to live your life.
If you eliminate the distance, discomfort of travel and possible danger, what's the use? If the new colony is close enough, your parents can visit over the weekend.. might as well stay home!
Imagine if everyone could have a large space to call their own, but still be close enough to visit family. This is much better than the pods you would see otherwise.
Even on Earth, which is just a single, small planet, people can already do that.
Multiply by 10. Or even 100.
You can still get away from people easily.
@peterwalls-qf7ii : There are different types of cultures in humanity. Some welcome community and desire the proximity of neighbors. If I were to guess, you're probably from another type which prefers solitary life and to have much distance between the individuals. However, the tight community seems to have better communal defense and rapid technological development than the solitary folk can ever dream of.
@@SelwynClydeAlojipan Actually, if you look around, it is the tight nit inner cities that are devolving, not the suburbs or rural areas. Humans are social creatures, yes. But we are not meant to live like ants.
@@nunya3163 Agreed: we love having a community around us, friends and family near... but our own space, and nature near, able to walk, be alone when needed, de-stress. I live in a small village a few miles from a mid-sized town, and just 45 mins drive away from my nation's capital - just right. Enough people around so I'm not isolated and alone, but enough space for peace and quiet. Now my own planet in this lovely, insanely human style super-star-system, close enough to others for a quick warp jump to get the shopping or visit the relatives, pop in on interesting new alien neighbours a hours warp jump away, yet still a whole ass planet to garden? Sounds like heaven.
Not often a story actually surpasses my expectations.
Full on stellar “transplanting” is one hell of a technological and setting flex.
Its cool to imagine layers of stars stacked, multiple orbits whirling around the intricate string of stars pointing to and away from the direction Sol is travelling and each having their own orbits parallel to our own...
Other than that, stars are so big it's hard to picture how else the system could be arranged
Juggler of Worlds style?
I have a wacky idea for you. Consider a binary star system. The stars could be so far apart that planets in their habitable zones remain in very stable orbits. A binary pair could orbit with another binary pair much further apart oh, so you have a greater binary system that is actually a total of four stars. And then you can go up even another level probably, two quartets of stars that take tens of thousands of years or more to rotate around their bary-center, all of them with their own solar systems. You probably can't go higher, but you might be able to have a conga line of octonary systems following the same trajectory around the galaxy. You wouldn't have to be all that far away in the grand scheme of things for this to appear to be a string of light crawling through space.
Gravity works as a sphere not just a plain so as long as the orbits are stable you could even jump orbits going form a oval to a infinity loop. So you could orbits more then one star at a time.
With enough celestial bodies, you can even make quadrilateral Orbits, or triangles, hearts, ogons, prisms, pyramids, or something as ridiculous as a dodecahedron @@loganshaw4527
For the Skald and his family, may his recovery be swift and smooth
Humanity has defeated the single greatest threat to existence..
Entropy.
Most likely just refueling the star. Would be bizarre once it does end it's extended life span. Alot of different elements are made during the normal life spans. This could be 10 or 100 times the quantity.
Huh. That was the most unique take on an HFY I've heard. Well done to the author and to the not-so-disembodied voice
And the spokesperson was just trying to drum up business. How very human.
The ending was also fitting this alien species is attacking our best customers send security to sort it out
Greetings and thanks to the angy rodent man in the non-descript uniform. May your sinuses be healthy and your voice strong.
you don't go to the mountain.. we bring the mountain to you
I'm so happy that you're finally feeling better and back to narrating. ❤
Xeno: *Declares war*
Humans: *Takes your star*
As this is not a star that we have previously claimed we do not abject to your removing it but it does beg the question, "WTF?"
Why not? said the human.
Talk about an initial puckering first contact that turned amazing
I´ll never EVER again complain over a heavy shopingtrolly, ever! That is some serious grocerie shoping!!!
At first, I thought that they were moving planets and stars to make room for the hyperhghway from The Hitchhikers Guide.
New meaning to Welcome to the Terran Empire
Straight up bringing new races and their planets to join 🤣
Welcome to the terrain empire. Would you like to move in?
@@roberine7241 we can bring your stars and worlds to be neighbors.
This is another great way to expand an empire that is seldom explored in other mediums. Reminded me of the story where all the asteroids in our solar system were mined or used to house small habitation modules, first come first served to property acquisition rights which pushed a heavily aggressive colonization initiative. They then had ships that not only dove into our sun to extract fuel, but also had a several million mile long super dense metal rod continuously being extracted from the sun to fuel out own construction efforts, which in my opinion was a take on how stars create new elements when they compress during supernova. Of course, aliens try to sneak in to invade by disguising their ships as asteroids, but are quickly torn apart and mined, never to be discovered that they were really an invasion fleet. They were happy shortly after to be recognized as possible future trade partners under friendly terms, and we're not in any hurry to speak the truth.
Pretty sure agro narrated that one.
@@IRMentat he did, don't tenebrous the title though. Want to save it to my favorites.
@@losthero0 what was the name? or the vid link?
Definitely was worried for the little alien alliance. Glad the company (with jingle) wasn't a reincarnation of the East Indian Company (or similar).
Having a muti star system would make partial disonsphere much more practical.
An interesting alternative to constructing ring worlds, or Dyson Spheres.
that was an awesome story. I love a happy story. here is a like and comment to help your channel grow.
That would be beyond Awesome...
Coffee for all
What a delightful little story! I enjoyed that immensely. And I'm so happy to see you looking fit as a fiddle. You are one of my favorite people and I'm so glad to see you back doing what you love so much❤
hippidy hoppidy your star is my property XDDDD
Great story and excellent narration! Thanks Agro!
Ah, harvesting in preparation for the Dyson Sphere, I see. Smart, syphon feeding Sol from stolen stars to keep it main sequence forever.
I cannot quite grasp the scale of the ships, however. The sheer scale of a star- to witness a ring settle around on It. Over presumed seconds of time, it would be moving super luminally, and such mass moving close to essentially a plasma ball would have overwhelmed the careful stellar balance going on in there.
So, yeah. wow. Nice engineering of the handwavium variety. We stand impressed.
To keep it main sequence you actually need to remove the helium and heaver elements from the star.
@@catprog I feel it would cause "star poisoning" after a while. That is some major offgasing siphoning.
@@loganshaw4527 Isn't the problem with 'star poisoning' the accumlation of heavy elements?
Remove the heavy elements and the star keeps going.
(And yes you probably would need a fresh supply of hydrogen long term)
@@catprog the problem is indeed the heavier elements. It is a ticking time bomb for "later" but is delayed if the star is still using hydrogen the problems start as soon as it burns through the hydrogen and has to switch to heavier and heavier elements to burn. "You would think it burns everything all at once. But it infact is much easier to fuse lighter elements first. So it gets fused first."
@@catprogin addition to what Loganshaw4527 said, if I recall my Astronomy class correct, every element up until Iron has a positive net return of energy when used as fusion fuel. Admittedly the return decreases significantly the higher the atomic number. Iron is the first element that has a net negative energy return. That's why all of the iron and heavier elements came from stars in their death throws. For most stars though the process usually stops around Boron and Carbon as they don't have the necessary mass for gravity to act on to cause carbon to fuse.
I'm not sure how I feel about just taking planets and stars to suit our whims.
For the arrangement of stars!
I'm not crying... it's raining... and onion ninjas are around again. Beautiful story
It's certainly a different approach. Many thanks for your narration.
The concept of this story is both interesting and very, very scary.
Hopefully they are only taking the old maid stars and planets.
I hope that this is the first of many chapters!
That's some Issac Arthur level engineering
A Great and original story. Thank you for the wonderful narration. It could be better than watching a movie of the same story.
Be well, my friend, and as Spock would say, 'Live Long and Prosper'
I would say, Love Life, Live Long, and Prosper.
Carmen Sandiego really stepping up her game.
She went "Legit" and figured out how to "steal" starlight.
...
If you can FTL to another system in less than a day, how can moving people and building in another star system be more expensive be more expensive than to move whole stars?
It's an awesome flex, but c'mon! XD
And I love the concept of planet cracking.
It's the lag/delay. Necessitating a much larger standing force. And all the logistics issues that _that_ entails.
Compress the area being covered into something traversable in minutes. Now you only need two or three 'hubs' to cover all colonies.
The logistics issues extend to civilian sector as well.
A very simple way to describe it... Imagine amazon being the ones who came up with the technology. They don't care that they can get to other systems in a single day, The closer planets and systems are the less they have to pay in shipping.
It's crazy having more than one ring-ship in operation! Great narration!
The UNITED(want or not) Federation of Planets(and Stars) :D
A really great story and well read, sir. Thank you.
Thank you for the reading
Really enjoyed the story and the read.
Thanks brother
Thanks again for the great narration!
Thank you again.
cool story. I really enjoyed it.
For the Algorithm, for the Author(s), for the Holographic Voice!
This is amazing love the concept of this one
Nice story.
Yeah, just one superweapon to cause one of those stars to go supernova and the fireworks would be epic
....Stroking out....vision fading....oh, never mind, just the captions starting up, like reading those.
thanks for the wonderfully fantastic story and the narration agro
Ooh that's a fun concept.
Thank you for narrating again, I missed you! Can you please do recent chapters of Nature of Predators?
The only thing better than you reading stories, is you reading screen names seriously....😂😂
I love this story.
That may not be a Kardashev III civilization but it's way past II !
That one was certainly different.
Humans from an outside view, JUST a bit terrifying.
Ummm coffee.
I hit the like button before I watch the video 🤣🤣
I could imagine that convo about moving there empire to the mini galaxy being made so uh are we able to like move in? humans uh yeah we xan get ya a spot xenos alright that was easier then expected also that invading empire definetly got put into time out would not be surprised if therw sun ans worlds got sheiled aswell
The human plan of gradually transporting much of the matter in the galaxy would eventually have dire consequences. With all the planets and stars in one small area of the galaxy, eventually the gravitational balance of the galaxy would become unbalanced enough to cause systems on the side of the galaxy opposite to the Sol system would be too far away from the galaxy's center of mass. This would cause many solar systems to just drift out into interstellar space.
Granted, this would take a while, but it seems that humanity in this story are growing at a logarithmic (if not exponential) rate. This means the rate of their acquisitions of stellar bodies will only increase over time. Eventually an emerging civilization on the other side of the galaxy will discover that their entire region of space is drifting outwards into the void. That is some metaphysical terror, right there.
Wouldn't they slowly start orbiting the new center as it shifts?
How many stars and planets are needed for the earth to be the center of the galaxy?
cool
for the embodied voice! ~tweet~
When we look up, all we see are friends. 😢😊
If Lord Hanuman was the commander of space operations
Since these aliens have never visited the star Sol, why do they refer to other star systems as Solar systems? Just asking
The same reason why they speak English. 😅
It's a "translation" into our tongue.
The same reason that if we ever meet an alien race their home world has a very real chance of being called effectively earth with a lowercase E. Earth means dirt, which our planet is made of. Very imaginative. Sol is sun/light. Very imaginative. The dirt beneath our feat and the light in the sky translates back into itself.
@@DemonicpurityThere's only one HOLY TERRA!!!
@@lloydkeith3061 that may be true but translators need to account for such things
@@DemonicpurityIt's the reason that linguists always use the local tribes name for themselves... Rather than translating it to the proper english translation which would simply be human.
Humanity rapidly speeding along to a Type III civilization.
This civilization IS a type III.
For the Algorithm the story and the voice
The dangers of relocating stars, and planets…
The choas of gravity waves and temperamental stars, also the weird configuration of star placement for stable planetary orbits.
Moving planets & stars would destabilize whole areas of a galactic arm etc makes no sense as you could cause more harm then good.
Yoink
No need to go out and wait many years to colonize solar systems they come to u 😂
Greeings, Mentlegent!
For the Rhyhtm that is Algo
Yeah I don't think we'd want stars that close together, just saying.
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I wanna see this Anime 😂
The All Gorilla approves
for the algorithm
Amazing. Too bad it's a one-shot
Can you please do some long-form nurations again like muds mission I greatly enjoyed it hope you read the comment
The series are on his other channel... Yes I do miss his really long videos as well, But the algo punishes it now. They really want creators to make shorter content, so he divided it up.
in a way... having ships apply centrifugal mechanics to pretend gravity , in combat it doess present the interesting aspect that you can have the super structure maintain stationary position yet constantly present new sides of its surface to any aggressor that tryess to 'focus fire' a single section hmm
though this story... space orcs ? nha.. more like space progenitors or techno titans
For the Algorithm!
This is creepy
Just a generic nerd ramble: Makes me think of Sean Raymond's ultimate solar system. But in that case, you need far fewer stars, or even better throw in a super massive black hole at the centre and reach really absurd numbers.
If tech developed down a very unexpected route, I figure this might indeed be feasible, but with very similar levels of tech development, it would become far far easier to just build something like culture orbitals from the planets, or even Niven ringworlds instead of being so awfully inefficient with all that excess volume/surface area. Admittedly not quite as spectacular a view from the surface as this would produce.
You mean they need to dismantle and reassemble planets to get living space?
They can get enough surface area just by taking another planet.
For the Algorithm11!
47th, 23 September 2023
Such a waste of material, especially if you have grav tech.
Think of a normal human home. All the air directly above it, all the material directly above it… all that material to provide a single home with atmo, presure and gravity. All that material supporting one home could be used to build an entire space habitat for over a million people. Planets and moons that get harvested shouldn’t be remade into planets. Make space habs
Or if they don't have enough people to fill the planets as is, they can just move a planet and not bother with the extra steps of building a habit.
Yes it is a waste of materials but they have a lot to play with.
@@catprog what do you mean by “not enough people”? Because it sounds like you are saying “if you don’t have enough people to put in an O’Neil Cylinder.. just move a planet”
If you don’t have enough people to fill a habitat with 0.5-5 million people, then you don’t waste the effort moving a planet.
Most especially you don’t dismantle a planet to make another planet. Dismantle them and making habitats gives you 100x-1000x more living space per unit mass
@@TheGelatinousSnake 2 billion people per planet * 1 thousand planets = 2 trillion people.
What I am saying is more like "If a planet becomes over populated then go and grab another planet and you have more living space."
Their planet moving tech means they don't need to build the O'Neil cylinders to get that space.
@@catprog planets are still far too wasteful, and less defensible. Still better off dismantling one planet for about 500 planets worth of living space. Each individual one can be customized. Master the Space Habs, almost every star is worth colonizing.