Like your thoughts on workshops. I’ve started offering workshops this last year and find it very rewarding tbh. To pass on my experience, show them locations and help the on the photography journey is as good as capturing a good shot. I wouldn’t feel comfortable vlogging and running a workshop at the same time, even if the client was happy with for me to do so. I’ve been asked to vlog a workshop to show what you get out of one and if I did that then I would offer it for free just to show the example of what can be gained from attending one. It should be 💯 the client. I do sometimes take the camera with me just to show composition examples. What does the client get out of it, well I try and design my workshop around the individual, what level they are at, what they like to shoot, who inspires them. Some just want to be shown areas for compositions. For a more experienced photographer going on a workshop can still be a good thing, and can be very useful. Bouncing off each other and sharing your thoughts can improve any photographer.
That would be a good idea Steve to do a vlog of a workshop as free to be fair. I like going out with a fellow photographer or two, but draw a limit as we’d just tend to get in each others way, hence the reason I don’t to group meet ups. That said, I would perhaps consider meeting for a meet & natter maybe just using my phone as it’s always good to meet fellow photographers who are down to earth & exchange stories & theories etc & make new friends. 👌👍
Hi Mark, what beautiful old buildings, the construction of the walls and buildings amazes me, you have to apericate the amount of work that went into building them. Thats my struggle with doing vlogs, its hot and cold, in one shot you have a coat on and the next your in a teeshirt lol. Some great photos there mate as always they really show the beauty of the place. On the photography guide topic, you might want to emulate a photographer that has a particular style and watching them work might achieve that I guess. I would be more inclined to pay someone for their local knowledge of good photography spots rather than lessons, I like learning the hard way of getting out and getting it wrong, I think that's the best way to learn photography, I see it more like a long distance run rather than a sprint.
Also, like you, I’m more or less self taught over the years but do have a friend who is a professional so I can get any advice I require off him. That’s a good point you make, similar to John, with regards paying more for the location.👌👍
Hi Mark, looks like you had a good day. It was interesting to hear you talk about not disclosing locations and the reasons why, with which I agree. There are other considerations too, such as making vlogs on private land such as Rhos Quarry. I am not above a bit of trespassing myself and have strong views on access and land ownership. I would, however, think twice before publicising my transgressions to a wider audience. There is no right of way through the quarry which is bordered by, but not on, access land. This arrangement would have been negotiated during the formulation of the Countryside Rights of Way act of 2000. In this instance, I am certain that the landowner would have been fuming if he'd caught you there and even more irate knowing that you've posted a video from Rhos. The two main access points to the quarry are clearly signed as PRIVATE etc. I know the landowner (he is, in effect, my next door neighbour) and we have had several lively discussions about access issues including wild camping. I sometimes use the quarry as a short cut but on every occasion I ask permission first so as not to antagonise the landowner and risk damaging relations. If he says no, then I don't go! Landowners and various user groups must work together respectfully to avoid conflict and this video does not help towards those ends. Please take this comment in the spirit in which it is meant. 🙏
Hi Nick, no problem at all & thank you for the info. We saw a sign on a gate so we always intend to obey what we see. We followed the fence line to a style over another fence where a couple of walkers had come over. I must admit, I didn’t notice if there was another sign by it to ward off intrusion. If we were trespassing, then we would sincerely apologise. I know a small number of photographers would deliberately ignore such signs just to get a shot, but we do try to be respectful as you have mentioned, it’s all about working together for the good. We will try to do more research in future, but genuinely thought we were ok after seeing the walkers & the style. Thanks again for bringing this to our attention 🙏👍
@@markpiercephotography I'm glad there was no offence taken and I didn't think for a moment that you'd knowingly been a bit naughty! Let's hope that viewers of this video read my comments and are discouraged to follow in your footsteps. I'm sure you had the best of intentions. Without wanting to sound patronising, if in doubt, have a quick look at your OS Explorer map. Access land is shaded in light yellow meaning you can go wherever you like, while land requiring a right of way to traverse is white. If you know this already then do forgive me, I can be extraordinarily pedantic when it comes to all things walking! I hope you have a great Autumn and get some lovely conditions. I write this from Capel Curig, where currently it feels like people are throwing buckets of water at my window 🤣
Interesting topic about workshops. Who are they for? Once you’ve mastered (?) the basic techniques then as you say you would be looking for one of the ‘top names’ to help you refine your craft. Another reason could be simply to find new (to you) locations and knowing how to get there, where to park etc. The other topic you mentioned was ‘secret locations’. If a workshop leader is prepared to take his clients to these ‘secret locations’, aren’t they being cynical; it’s secret, but it’s yours for a price.
Thanks Nick, really appreciate that. Just downloaded the OS maps for the phone so can have a good look for future reference 👌🙏👍@@nickliveseyphotographingth5050
Another great area there Mark, at time stamp 2:05 would make a great composition looking through that wall 🙂 and you know me I love a waterfall ha-ha.
Cheers Darren.the waterfall is quite a sketchy place to get anything decent, but I’m sure you would manage it lol😀😂👍
Nice work mate.
Many thanks Paul.🙏👍
And yet again brilliant Vlog Mark. Great to hear the new mikes in operation they work well. Looking forward to the next jaunt wherever it takes us. 👌
Thanks Richard, yes they work really well.👌🙏👍
Like your thoughts on workshops. I’ve started offering workshops this last year and find it very rewarding tbh. To pass on my experience, show them locations and help the on the photography journey is as good as capturing a good shot.
I wouldn’t feel comfortable vlogging and running a workshop at the same time, even if the client was happy with for me to do so.
I’ve been asked to vlog a workshop to show what you get out of one and if I did that then I would offer it for free just to show the example of what can be gained from attending one. It should be 💯 the client. I do sometimes take the camera with me just to show composition examples. What does the client get out of it, well I try and design my workshop around the individual, what level they are at, what they like to shoot, who inspires them. Some just want to be shown areas for compositions.
For a more experienced photographer going on a workshop can still be a good thing, and can be very useful.
Bouncing off each other and sharing your thoughts can improve any photographer.
That would be a good idea Steve to do a vlog of a workshop as free to be fair. I like going out with a fellow photographer or two, but draw a limit as we’d just tend to get in each others way, hence the reason I don’t to group meet ups. That said, I would perhaps consider meeting for a meet & natter maybe just using my phone as it’s always good to meet fellow photographers who are down to earth & exchange stories & theories etc & make new friends. 👌👍
Hi Mark, what beautiful old buildings, the construction of the walls and buildings amazes me, you have to apericate the amount of work that went into building them. Thats my struggle with doing vlogs, its hot and cold, in one shot you have a coat on and the next your in a teeshirt lol. Some great photos there mate as always they really show the beauty of the place. On the photography guide topic, you might want to emulate a photographer that has a particular style and watching them work might achieve that I guess. I would be more inclined to pay someone for their local knowledge of good photography spots rather than lessons, I like learning the hard way of getting out and getting it wrong, I think that's the best way to learn photography, I see it more like a long distance run rather than a sprint.
Thank you very much Keith, yes tremendously hard to build in such places especially the higher quarries within the country.🙏👍
Also, like you, I’m more or less self taught over the years but do have a friend who is a professional so I can get any advice I require off him. That’s a good point you make, similar to John, with regards paying more for the location.👌👍
Hi Mark, looks like you had a good day. It was interesting to hear you talk about not disclosing locations and the reasons why, with which I agree. There are other considerations too, such as making vlogs on private land such as Rhos Quarry. I am not above a bit of trespassing myself and have strong views on access and land ownership. I would, however, think twice before publicising my transgressions to a wider audience. There is no right of way through the quarry which is bordered by, but not on, access land. This arrangement would have been negotiated during the formulation of the Countryside Rights of Way act of 2000.
In this instance, I am certain that the landowner would have been fuming if he'd caught you there and even more irate knowing that you've posted a video from Rhos. The two main access points to the quarry are clearly signed as PRIVATE etc. I know the landowner (he is, in effect, my next door neighbour) and we have had several lively discussions about access issues including wild camping. I sometimes use the quarry as a short cut but on every occasion I ask permission first so as not to antagonise the landowner and risk damaging relations. If he says no, then I don't go!
Landowners and various user groups must work together respectfully to avoid conflict and this video does not help towards those ends. Please take this comment in the spirit in which it is meant. 🙏
Hi Nick, no problem at all & thank you for the info. We saw a sign on a gate so we always intend to obey what we see. We followed the fence line to a style over another fence where a couple of walkers had come over. I must admit, I didn’t notice if there was another sign by it to ward off intrusion. If we were trespassing, then we would sincerely apologise. I know a small number of photographers would deliberately ignore such signs just to get a shot, but we do try to be respectful as you have mentioned, it’s all about working together for the good. We will try to do more research in future, but genuinely thought we were ok after seeing the walkers & the style. Thanks again for bringing this to our attention 🙏👍
@@markpiercephotography I'm glad there was no offence taken and I didn't think for a moment that you'd knowingly been a bit naughty! Let's hope that viewers of this video read my comments and are discouraged to follow in your footsteps. I'm sure you had the best of intentions.
Without wanting to sound patronising, if in doubt, have a quick look at your OS Explorer map. Access land is shaded in light yellow meaning you can go wherever you like, while land requiring a right of way to traverse is white.
If you know this already then do forgive me, I can be extraordinarily pedantic when it comes to all things walking!
I hope you have a great Autumn and get some lovely conditions. I write this from Capel Curig, where currently it feels like people are throwing buckets of water at my window 🤣
Interesting topic about workshops. Who are they for? Once you’ve mastered (?) the basic techniques then as you say you would be looking for one of the ‘top names’ to help you refine your craft. Another reason could be simply to find new (to you) locations and knowing how to get there, where to park etc. The other topic you mentioned was ‘secret locations’. If a workshop leader is prepared to take his clients to these ‘secret locations’, aren’t they being cynical; it’s secret, but it’s yours for a price.
Yes absolutely John. Thanks for watching & commenting 🙏👍
Thanks Nick, really appreciate that. Just downloaded the OS maps for the phone so can have a good look for future reference 👌🙏👍@@nickliveseyphotographingth5050