Hand Cut Dovetails Made Easy (In Real Time)
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2020
- Hand Cut Dovetails Made Easy - (In Real Time) In this video Rob demonstrates in real shop time how quick and easy hand cut dovetails can be. Rob's new approach method allows 90% of beginners to make perfect hand cut dovetails on their first try! This is a companion video to our Hand Cut Dovetails Made Easy - A New Approach. This video shows you what cutting the dovetail looks like in real shop time while the other video teaches you how to easy cutting a dovetail joint van be. You are going to love hand cut dovetails made easy.
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I never get tired of watching you do this Rob. 2 -1/2 years after learning this from you, I have cut a few thousand and have never varied from your method. I say with humility that I can count on one hand the number of times they didn't turn out near-perfect.
Now that was a really SUPERB lesson in dovetailing. Thank you Rob
Thanks for watching and commenting
I see a Rob video now, I click to watch, no questions asked.
Hi Borescope....I saw your PHP application. Thanks for watching and commenting on the video
RobCosman.com well, hopefully that means I’ll hear back from y’all soon. I didn’t want to ask if y’all went and looked it over, figured that would be rude.
After 40 plus years woodworking I have always stayed away from dovetails. After this video I think I may be able to do it! Thanks Rob!
dovetail saw... $100
skew block plane... $300
marking gauge... $75
dovetail marking knife... $62
woodriver bench plane... $200
A shop with decent lighting... priceless!
Awesome demo!
we installed 5000 lumin LEDs everywhere
Mind blown. Again.
Been building furniture for 36 years but have never done hand dove tails , restoring a 1800's desk made in Germany, I had to review your video many times, thanks for technology. you do a great of explaining the procedures, Thanks Rob.
Highly skilled work results. Thank you!
This is a MASTERCLASS! thanks Rob!
The quality of camera work and lighting is some of the best you've ever done.
Thanks....I will let Jake know
Outstanding education and entertainment. This is definitely a winning formula, Rob. I appreciate your tireless efforts and energy.
Outstanding Rob. Always a pleasure to watch your methods.
That was perfect!
Absolutely the best sawing instructional video I’ve seen. Truly a legendary master. Very grateful for your content Rob
Thank you, Rob. Your method in this video and your other videos have dramatically improved my dovetails. Much appreciated, sir.
Glad to help....go make some dovetails
Always a treat to watch Rob cut a dovetail!!!
Since I have seen your dovetails I am sure it is ! 😂 (Don't worry folks Anmed is a good friend and cuts awesome dovetails)
love real-time demonstration with great tips
Ready to start my day now! Thank you!💜
You're so welcome!
Appreciate the education
I learn something new every time I watch
Holy crap.... like magic
Rob is the Best! Thanks, You give hope to us guys with saws on the weekends!
Thanks....keep watching and commenting
That was beautiful!!
👏😉
this was most helpful
Amazing
Very nice work!
Rob, It is always a pleasure to watch you cut dovetails. What gets me most is your confidence to apply glue and assemble the joint without a test fit. Clearly your kerf knife technique ensures the proper starting line, though I would still have to check. I still have to develop the muscle memory that comes with dropping the blade down to the scribe line a thousand times or so.
~ Thayer
Stay tuned as I post more detailed videos on each part of the dovetail. I will show you how to check them without test fitting
Thanks for taking the time to make this and show how quick and easy it is to make dovetails. Made it look super easy. That saw was like a razor cutting through the wood.
Looking for the next video and more inspiration
Glad it was helpful! I think we are going to do a deep dive into sawing next
Well done.
Appreciate the instruction and motivation. Practice. Practice. Practice.
You bet! Thanks David!
That was great, gives us somthing to strive for - thank you
You can do it, I guarantee it
I liked this video. Showing real time operations with no cuts is one of the most appreciable aspects of this channel. I learn more from a master moving in his shop than from super perfect stylish video makers. Great!
Glad you liked it! we have more details coming soon
I have to say the marking knife I ordered from Rob REALLY helped me!
That's great....love your Avitar!
you know....i never even thought of using a square on the working piece of wood and how that reinforces good technique - thanks for revealing this to me
You are a magician when it comes to wood! Thanks Rob !
Thanks as always for your support, Daniel. See ya on the live episode.
The way you showed the dovetail in real time was fun to watch. Thanks for the lesson!
Glad you liked it! I wanted to do it in real time since the lesson video is 1 hour long
Excellent. Thank you!
You are welcome! I hope it helped you
I never get tired of seeing you do this, Rob~! Excellent tutorial~! Magician? Maybe. Maestro? Definitely~!! :-)
Abracadabra !
amazing
WOW wow so cool rob.
Thanks for watching and commenting
I like the measuring the saw tip. Thanks
Glad to help...are you able to consistently make the tolerance?
Awesome!
Guess I'm going to be upgrading to a Cosman saw. That thing cuts so slick.
I promise you will love it and it will greatly increase your capabilities
Fantastic work, Rob!
Glad you like it and thanks for watching
Nice video!
Very nice instruction
New, part-time woodworker. Without a doubt, easiest, most accurate method. Especially when you don't do it very often! Even works with my big-box tools.
Next purchase, one of Rob's saws and a marking knife
Thanks Rob and crew for all you do
You will be amazed how much easier it will be with my dovetail saw.
Thanks
Fun watch!
Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching and commenting
Superb!
Thanks a lot!
Thanks.
That was master level craftsmanship you’re a guy who obviously knows what the hell he’s doing it’s great to see that I hope I can get to making dovetails that good someday it definitely gives me something to shoot for
That's awesome, didn't think it was even possible to get them done that quick!
Watch my 3-1/2 minute speed dovetials
Great stuff (as always) Rob. Would love to see that method of transferring the tails using the saw itself! I remember you showed it in an old video but I haven't been able to track it down yet
Its coming in a couple of videos, hang in there
Hello Rob!
Well, it's just aerobatics ...! :)
Again a standing ovation and I take off my hat to your skill. :)
Thank you very much.
I'm going to train to do a dovetail. :)
Take care of yourself there.
Thank you too for watching. Now go do some dovetails
My first order from Rob arrived today, it's time for maple syrup tomorrow morning.
WARNING.....its addictive
best week ever for my dovetails! i finally got my LN right skew block plane and my 3rd cosmanized marking guage. the biggest thing though, is i also got a Cosman dovetail saw!!! what a huge difference that one tool makes. i had my brother do a blind test between a veritas and a Cosman saw. he's a computer engineer. not only did he immidiately notice a huge difference but he was able to cut a respectable first ever dovetail in pine. i wish i had been smart enough when starting out to buy the best. i wasted so much money on 'deals'
I completely understand the issue. Cant tell you how much money I spent starting out chasing down what to buy only in the end spending way more money than if I had gone with the good stuff right off the bat. Your brother sounds like a genius!!!!!
I mostly manufacture custom wood signs with a router. But lately I have been getting inquiries about making different items; such as cremation urns, cedar chests and other basic wood furniture. These items are outside my comfort zone so I have been researching and watching videos. This is the first video I have ever seen of yours.....but it will not be my last. You now have another subscriber. Thanks for creating such a fantastic quality video!!
Thanks. Hey I need a custom wood sign. Can you send me contact info for your website or company to robswebmaster@robcosman.com
Thanks! I'll be glad to!
oooooo good good good👌👍
if you are running low on ideas for "how to" videos, i would love to see a pared down version of your tilt out saw holders that are part of your mobile tool cabinet please. thanks again for the beautiful saw
That's a Great idea. I will put that on the list
Rob, I've been watching your videos for a few years now and have followed your updated technique with measuring the saw blade and kerf etc. Despite the number of your dovetail videos that I've seen (including the work on the desk drawer during lockdown) and the quality of each of them, I am dumbfounded at the joint you produced in this video. I can't take my eyes off the picture at 18:42 - the precision is just beyond description. Perhaps the camera is better than normal, or perhaps Jake lingered with a steady shot for a little longer than normal - whatever it is, it looks incredible. Thank you for taking the time to make all your videos.
Thnank you for watching and commenting....more on the way
Tell me about it. Absolutely perfect dovetails. It's almost disgusting they are so good.
I showed my father-in-law woodworker a screen shot of the time stamp above. He asks: "Machine made?" I said: "No. Even more precise than that. Cosman made".
Thanks Rob! Appreciate all the beginner videos lately.
More on the way.....Keep watching
Excelente!!👍, sos nivel de dios, carpintero experto
Thanks for watching and commenting
Hey why did you make it look so easy? LOL. Nice demo, and nice planing cleanup at the end. I think dovetails intimidate a lot of us.
Thx
Ps. A very very good teacher too🤷♂️🙂😃👌
No matter how many times I watch Rob demo his technique, I enjoy like it was my first time! I have to confess Rob - I removed a pin recently. I was on my first of 100 dovetails for a 10-drawer parts cabinet (5 dovetails each side - front only). It had been a month or so since I last cut dovetails and I had become complacent about marking the waste. Duh! For any skeptics out there (you know, who you are "well, Rob, of course YOU can do it that fast and with perfection -- you HAVE been doing this for about a million years) After that warm up mistake, I got into a rhythm and completed the hand tool work on each drawer (10 'perfect' dovetails each) in about 20 minutes, and I'm no Rob Cosman. It was just 9 months ago I cut my first while attending a Training the Hand Workshop with Rob and team. Do this and you too will never test fit a dovetail joint again. Pure joy.
Cutting off the pin, isn't that a round of free beer for everyone?????
@@RobCosmanWoodworking YES! My first order of business once groundhog day is over
lovely work. can you do a video of a whole drawer? detailing how to line up and square 4 dovetail joins? seems like there may be some trick to keep them from slipping. especially when plaining them . Happy new year, love your work & videos!! :)
Piece of cake? I like cake, not as much as I like pie, but I still like it. If I could eat dovetails for dessert though I would. That's how much I like cutting dovetails. And it's all thanks to your informative videos that have given me the ability to train my hand and eye to cut them. Thanks Rob.
That's awesome. send me a picture of your dovetails to robswebmaster@robcosman.com......apple pie is the only way to go
HVALA VELIKA!
thanks
You're welcome!
You’re so awesome man.
Well I can cut a dovetail !!!
RobCosman.com I’m still trying to cut a straight line lol!
70% of cutting straight is the saw, the other 30% is your grip, body position, and the first 4 strokes of the saw.
Another well structured, informative, concise video. There's nothing in it that people didn't need to know and everything they did need to know. And it was so well explained that even I could follow it. :-)
Any chance of a video detailing how to plane and avoid tear-out when having to plane; against the grain on the end of a draw, when dealing with a cathedral while levelling a board, gnarly timber. A great chance to promote sharp and a good plane.
That is scheduled for filming next week
Rob, I agree that this video is bascially a good tutorial on handcut dovetails. However, it would have helped if you had provided an alternative to the use of the skew plane. As you know these tools are very expensive and, in my opinion, have limited use is most hobbyists shops. I do not make enough drawers to warrant the expense. You mentioned using a steel ruler as an alternative. This would have been a great addition to what is, as I said, basically a good video. Keep them coming.
You’re a god.
Please......poor woodworker yes
You're like woodworking Carl Sagan!
I love Dive tails. Looks an the power of holding. What brand of chisel is that you have . Back in my younger years I use to build Grandfather Clocks . It is a real pleasure watching you an your passionate for what you do . Thanks
IBC, designed them 10 years ago, made for us by IBC.
I literally was shaking my head thinking "ooooh kay got it"....
No hanging about that's for sure!
Good to see a Klausz style presentation from yourself, every now and again.
What's your procedure to stop the end grain from the skew block spelching out on some timbers?
Do you come in from the back with a shoulder plane?
All the best
Tom
Great question, with this its sharp blade and very thin cut so you don't have to worry about spelching as you normally would. To come back the other direction you need a second plane with the blade on the opposite side so that is not very doable. If it was a problem (I have never had that problem) I would just use the ruler method I showed.
Rob, a lot of people I know, including myself, don’t have good light on their work table, noticed you have a nice sized adjustable lamp. Can you provide a source link for it please. It is addictive watching your videos!
IKEA
“Better tools make it a whole lot easier”
That’s what she said!
Not sure what to say about that?
Hi, Rob . Is It me ? Or you have a Better camera ? The video quality and definition of the details is great. ¡¡ and as always your work is impressive.
yes and No. We sent the camera off to the camera shop and they said sawdust had gotten all inside th the lenses so it had a very detailed cleaning and takes a much better picture now
20 min a corner is 1 hour 20 min for a four corner dovetailed drawer. Very nice!
Yup, and you can get a perfect piston fitting drawer this way
Although it's called a rebate in England the tool's still called a rabbeting plane
This was fun! And you "hurrying" because of the camera is light years ahead of many, and your "I might go slower" for shop furniture... I'd still be setting my marking gauge ;-). Thanks
Well this was just to show what YOU can do with a little practice
Hi Rob, perfect joints as usual! I was wondering Do you always use a pen instead of a pencil to mark out and why? Or is it what you had to hand at the time?
Blessings
Andy.
Yes I do, Pen line is easier to see and the thickness of the line is consistent, a pencil line thickness is always changing as the lead wears away
RobCosman.com
Thank you Rob, it makes perfect sense now, I will try it for myself, anything for more accuracy!
May you and your family Stay well and safe, and thank you for all your hard work to keep us entertained and instructed! you and the team are very much appreciated !
Blessings.
Andy. (London uk)
Even without using the rag he still ends up looking like a magician
And now the magician waves his magic hammer, removes the silk hanky and there are perfect dovetails!
Tks for the real time run through! Who's skew plane did you use for three rabbet
It didn't look like the lie nielsen in the description?
It is indeed a Lie-Nielsen, back when they used to be white bronze.
@@RobCosmanWoodworking interesting tks!
Subscribed to your channel a few days ago Rob you have an excellent informative teaching way about you.
I noticed that you have a Roubo work bench ,did you construct that or can you purchase them.
I live in UK and work offshore and hopefully, fingers and appendages crossed coming to some form of retirement in the next few years after 50 years at sea and need a passion ,dont want golf ,I am a fly fisherman so woodworking seems to of caught my interest and a Roubo would be my first project
@@boriskogan7903 Thank you Boris ,it just looks like a Roubo or is a Roubo another name for a traditional Scandinavian bench .I am a little past a beginner in my passion to enjoy my hopefully end of working life the world away from offshore so any info greatly appreciated,hope your build goes well
Hi Stuart. Well its not a Roubo and I am not a fan of Roubo style benchs. I have a Scandinavian workbench in the style master craftsman Frank Klaus, Tage Frid, and that most western Europe (except France) used. Lots of reasons for that and would take too long to explain here. Nope, I don't make them anymore, would take way too much of my time. The real keys to a bench are mass and how it holds the work. I like the wagon style vise and the shoulder style vise (verses the leg style vids of Roubos)
Boris Kogan thank you Boris ,well I totally understand your reasoning to spend time on a moment or day without no fundamental obligation to produce something tangible or otherwise in order to survive on that treadmill , good luck on the birthday gift I am sure your wife will appreciate it
@@RobCosmanWoodworking Thank you Rob very much appreciated,one of your other subscribers also kindly mentioned the Frank Claus Tage Frid style so I will look at making one of those on my first project thank again
Awesome 👍 Could you use the dovetail saw as a marking knife or might it damage the end points? 🤔
That is a good option and what I did before I made the knife. The knife is a little more convenient but using the actual saw works great too.
@@RobCosmanWoodworking awesome thanks Rob I'll see how I get on 👍
This might be a dumb question but what is a good all round hammer. One wood mallet or a metal hammer or a rubber mallet?? I know it depends on what project you are doing but for tool ends wouldn’t a rubber mallet be the way to start?? I have never been able to use a hand plane!!!!! I just can’t use one so I’m going to get a powered jointer and a planer....Sorry Dad but my carpenters skills will never be as great as yours and I do miss you but I know you and Mom are keeping an eye on me...... great video as usual
Rob, does cutting the rabbit on the side boards change the overall width of the drawer width?
Another great video. I have a question about your knife that you use to mark the pins. Will that only work with your dovetail saw since you mentioned that it is perfect for your saw because it has the same thickness as your saw?
Its 24 thous thick (thats .020 for the saw plate + .002 x 2 for the set on each side) So my saw will work on any saw that has a kerf of between.024 and around.030
@@RobCosmanWoodworking I just measured my lie nielson dovetail blade and its .37 thick and around .45 if you include the set on both sides. I am impress. 👍
@@RobCosmanWoodworking i am sorry to keep asking about your knife. If your knife/ saw works on a 24 to 30 kerf then anything larger will cause inaccuracies? I want to add I also have a Japanese dovetail saw which has a .28 blade and a total with set of around .36. In short I am interested in your dovetailing system. What im trying to understand is do I need both your knife and saw together for it to work properly.
@@felipehuibonhoa7338 You'd have a little bit of flex when cutting the kerfs, because the kerf created on the tails board will be a little wider than the knife blade. You're talking a miniscule amount though, to the extent that it'd likely make no difference whatsoever. If you could find a replaceable Japanese saw blade (the knife works on the pull I think, and Japanese replacement blades that thin are easier to come by than Western ones usually) closer in width to your Lie Neilson, then you could cut a piece of it off and make a knife that would do the same thing as Rob's rather than buy a whole new saw. If it were me, I'd probably risk buying the knife and using with my existing saw!
Rob I need your hand toolery wisdom, I’m looking for a skew block plane and I can only find old ones, recommendations??? I need one that is budget friendly too.
I can only recommend the Lie Nielsen Skew Block. You can try finding a good deal on eBay for a used one but LN planes hole their value pretty well. The skew block plane MUST have a fence. The old Stanley planes did not have a fence and they are almost worthless - don't get one. If price is a barrier and you are getting one for dovetails, just use the ruler method I show how to do in this video: ua-cam.com/video/E8SrH6HbDdQ/v-deo.html
@@RobCosmanWoodworking do we really need two a left and a right
No, only one. Whichever is your dominant hand.
I've always wondered when prepping stock, how flat is flat enough when dovetailing? Is it worth pulling out the calipers to measure thousandths of an inch deviations in thickness on each corner when making typical drawers? I'm sure the size of the project influences this but what tolerances do you aim for?
Hi Robby, calpers are not necessary. You need to have a standard 6 squared board. lots of ways to get there. Watch my playlist on hand plane basics and it will give you all the tips and techniques for 6 squaring a board. Are you using machines or all hand tools?
@@RobCosmanWoodworking I'm generally a power and hand tool mix. Even though I have a bench jointer, I'm usually using a jack plane to flatten a face (if it's already close to flat) to then run through a planer to square the opposing face. Afterwards I use the same jack plane to remove any snipe and mill marks.
In both of these dovetail videos you plane the joints immediately after assembly while the glue is still wet. I am guessing there is little or no expansion and then contraction of the wood fibers due to the snug fit of the joint. Plus there is no glue left on the surfaces to interfere with the finish.
You are correct on both counts
Hi Rob, I live in Wales in the UK and currently use a Dozuki saw for cutting my dovetails. I have been thinking of buying a western style saw and had settled in my mind on the Lie Nielsen dovetail saw with the 1/4 inch incline. I am now in my 70's and like many of my compatriots suffer with arthritis in my hands, wrists etc. Watching your video, I am interested to know, if perhaps your dovetail saw might be a better way to go than the LN. Can you explain to me what if any advantages your saw can offer over the LN? Many thanks. Dawn
HI Dawn, I represented LN in Canada for 7 years, my saw is a result of that. Folks had a difficult time starting the saw, to correct that I put small teeth with a negative cutting face on the first 2 inches of the blade. Very narrow set (.002 per side vs .003) makes the saw track better which means a straighter cut and a smoother and flatter surface. Weight is a big difference as well, mine is almost double.
When you mark the vertical lines on the pin board, where are they relative to the marking knife kerf? Are they in the kerf, on the waste side or on the pin side?
Pin side. If they go down the kerf you lose all reference. If they go down on the waste, once you fret saw them off you lose a reference for repairs if needed.
Is there any advantage to take the thickness of the tailboard (to be marked on the pin board) AFTER you've cut the rabbet?
Yes, it will leave the joint flush after its assembled, less to plane off.
Rob - did you ever get starting the drawer opening sorted on the writing desk?
Hi fuzzy sure did. We did that on the online membership
@@RobCosmanWoodworking I guess that means you won't just tell me what you did. :)
Hey I’m a relatively new woodworker and I’m wondering if anyone can tell me what the vices are called that are flush with the bench like these, my vices are very old and I want to build something better on my bench. Thanks