RIP NASL
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- The North American Soccer League. The league that played by its own rules. The league that brought in Pele, Cruyff, Best, and more. And the league, that lost it all.
What was the NASL and what happened to it? It's all answered here.
(well... not quite everything. I had to cut out a lot because of the length of the video.)
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This was really cool history lesson. Love the vidoes.
I just wish the cosmos would’ve still existed in MLS they have such a great history and people who knew of soccer back then would’ve recognized them
The way MLS is set up on name rights, it's good they never did. Be it, they jump around now, Cosmos still exist with leagues being closed, if they sold over to MLS, if MLS ever closed, so would they more than likely.
@@jldch26 The Cosmos have become forgotten and they barely exist. Can you name one Cosmos player from the last few years? No one even knows what league they play in. Coming back as a minor league team and not in MLS meant they could never live up to the Pele days. The Cosmos without stars are irrelevant
@@staticcharm3808 Danny Szetela?
@@staticcharm3808 Raul, Marcos Senna, Jimmy Maurer, Hunter Freeman, Haji Wright, Lucky Mkosana, Walter Restrepo, Andres Flores just to name a few
They had a chance before CFG. The Cosmos wanted to retain their branding rights.
I honestly thought this was going to be about the 2nd NASL.
Me too
What happened to NASL 2?
@@kramcherryp197 what happened to NASL 2 was teams kept on leaving the league and in this case moving to MLS or USL championship and NASL 2 wanted full rights and responsibility to the league as an independent and wanted full sanctioning from the us soccer federation to compete with MLS division 1 sanctioning while retaining division 2 and NASL got moved to 3rd division while USL championship became the official second division, and NASL only had 4 teams left when they lost 4 , and they were required to have 12, and they were trying to get everything back physically and financially from the us federation and from the MLS with Don Garber and from the USL and also Ricardo Silvas plan to put pro rel on the United States with a media rights deal never worked out, and then Ricardo silvas plan to force it on the us with Dennis Crowley teaming up with him never worked out .
me too!
I was a season ticket holder for the Timbers 1975 -77 and only gave up seasons tickets because I took a advancement at work and had to work evenings and weekends. I have followed them since day one and they actually did things right. They gained the loved of the city and they are still huge today. Some of the other teams should have followed their model.
Makes me wonder how many CONCACAF Cups NASL teams would have won if they had participated in that tournament.
Now I want RIP Level II NASL.
Yes should be like 1mls- 2nasl -thirt ?
Daniel Monteiro it’ll happen. Not the next video but soon. Thank you for watching!
You should do a video of the creation of the US Open Cup and the early years of the competition.
From over 100 years ago???
A lot of legends have played in the NASL before. Pele, Best, some of history's best ever players. Sad to see it being chucked into the garbage like this. RIP.
U got FB?
@@tioluis8351 Nope
NASL walked so MLS could run
"CBS maybe its a good thing you don't cover much soccer"
Me watching the Portland Thorns play North Carolina on CBS
Also CBS is supposed to take the rights for the Champions League
They'll probably put the games on CBS All Access, like they did to the NWSL Challenge Cup.
The Thorns are my favorite womens team, the Timbers are my second most favorite football team overall after Bayer Leverkusen. I enjoy Danny's videos because he is the only one that covers the MLS with hopeful, non-cynical, non-"retirements league", non-"Europe Only" eyes.
@@gregmeyer5114 I was able to watch the first 30 minutes of the Reign match on Twitch, but then could not watch the end of the game.
@@Squirrelanditsnutz MLS is getting better. They are doing a lot of things right. Now, they need to fix the refs... Um... maybe that is not a good way to put it...
Never heard Pelé pronounced so weird. Great video all around tho
Can you please rank all USL teams jerseys.
The Rowdies had the best slogan: Soccer is a kick in the Grass. Going to school at a boarding school in Florida, the school had two trips to see the Rowdies - The Cosmos and the Hartford Bicentennials (my team).
Can you make a video of the history of MLS? From the beginning of MLS in 1993, to the almost to eventual folding of MLS in the 2000’s, to the signing of David Beckham in 2006, to what it is now in 2020?
Really enjoy your channel. I love learning about the odd history of soccer in North America
You know soccer in America goes as far back as baseball. In the '30's it was on the verge of breaking out. Then the Great Depression hit many of the clubs folded. They were mostly amateur's anyway. Add in competing leagues trying to control the USSF. The American sports fan looked to baseball and American football. The interest in soccer faded until the British invasion of the '60's.
NASL was my first taste of ever seeing soccer as a kid (back in the 70's). There were a lot of dry spells where I couldn't watch any games, but I never lost that love for the game. When MLS picked up the ball I was hooked from the start and never looked back.
Been a liga MX club america fan as a kid and was aware of the MLS back in 05 to 08 but never watched it. Now I’m 24 bought fifa 21 which got me back in the sport and came back watching MLS supporting Lafc sucks that I didn’t get to tag along the MLS since i was you g
The nasl has a lot of history but like no just no.
American soccer before countdown clock and hockey style pks
But like dc was still amazing
Let’s go dc
Great video, love learning about US soccer history, just beginning to get in to the MLS, and these videos help me fill in the background and history of the league and teams.
My view of the NASL was from the vantage point of the New England Tea Men. They were sponsored by the Lipton Tea Company, wore the Lipton corporate colors of red and yellow, and were coached by two decent ex Manchester United players who had been lucky enough to have survived the plane crash, Noel Cantwell and Dennis Violett. Your report never mentioned them by name, although you did slap up their rather attractive logo once, in the shot of all the league logos, That's probably justified. The squad was mostly journeymen from the English lower leagues. They did manage to beat the Cosmos at least once at their rented digs at the Patriots stadium in Foxboro. Mick Flanagan, from Fulham was their big scoring threat. They played very unmemorable football. moved to Fort Lauderdale, became an indoor team playing at a hockey rink in West Palm Beach. where I saw them play the Fort Lauderdale Strikers. Their Tea Men's crowds were mostly close friends and relatives, and me. Aside from a victory against the Cosmos I can't think of any other accomplishments worth noting. I did get to see Pele, Beckenbauer, Best, Cruyff at less than their top form. I wanted to see the league succeed. I wish someone actually connected to the NASL felt the same way. I also remember seeing Eusebio and Tony Simoes play for the Minutemen at Quincy Memorial Stadium when the Minutemen were a semi-pro team. Sad.
Gil Norton had no idea about the story of the Tea Men. I would have loved to included that in the video!
The Tea Men didn't move to Fort Lauderdale...they actually moved to Jacksonville and became the Jacksonville Tea Men....by the way you should have included the effort by NASL to play indoor soccer and try to compete with the Major Indoor Soccer League.....! Even the Cosmos played indoors!!
Gregory Pollard in the original script I had talked about the indoor league. But the recording came out to 28 minutes, and I wanted to cut out a lot of stuff. My plan is to one day make a video about the history of indoor soccer that’s when I’ll talk about the indoor NASL
@@dannytradio I'll be looking forward to that as well....however talking about the history of indoor soccer will have a lot of moving parts: NASL Indoor, MISL 1, CISL, NPSL.....etc
Also I would love to see you make a video on LA Galaxy's CONCACAF Cup victory in 2000, almost becoming the first MLS team to participate in the FIFA Club WC before it got cancelled last minute. Thanks for still making these awesome videos!
Would be awesome, Sad for the Galaxy
Make a Video Ranking the MLS matchballs!
I agree with your reasons why the NASL tanked; it was a different time for soccer in the United States. However, many forget that the Major Indoor Soccer League helped bring down the NASL. Owners at the time felt that playing indoors with higher scoring and lavish promotions would appeal more to an American audience. When the MISL began in 1978, the NASL quickly created its indoor league. Chicago, Cosmos, San Jose, Minnesota, and San Diego jumped ship from the NASL to the MISL towards the end. Indoor soccer is just a tiny spec on the sports radar today, but that was not the case in 1984.
Two other MLS teams folded besides Chivas USA-the Tampa Bay Mutiny and Miami Fusion.
I know.
This. I was gonna mention this. Crew almost ceased to exist.
as a Brit i think your being a bit harsh on the 35 yard line rule....................unlike other yank ideas that suck like bigger goals (not great for goalies at ANY level and Sunday/pub/school league level defenders) and no ties in league games or for two legged cup rounds (3 points for wins 1 pt draws in league and away goals rule in cups sorting that issue out.) i thought it was a good idea and almost all the euro players who went over said it stopped the defenders pushing up the offside traps up so high thus spreading out/giving more space for the midfield players....which is providing there is no goal hanging(which is the whole point of the offside rule to prevent!) can only be a good thing for soccer.... remember this was before the back pass rule,the tackle from behind=foul rule and also when level with 2nd defender was automatic offside instead of onside as case is now. basically i am saying the nasl was trying to make soccer slightly more attacking with one rule which fifa achieved slightly better with 3 rule changes! Also remember back in the 70s most nasl games were on the old style astro turf....not great for entertain soccer its like green concrete! or playing basketball on grass! its just not easy on the body and the bounce is not perfect! unlike modern 3/4g astro which is great for 95% of soccer............. like you said the 35 yard line came in handy for shoot outs...which i see as being no better or worse then pens....problems with pens is 85-90% end up as goals problems with shoot outs is more are saved then scored plus in some instances a goal being legal or not can be hard to rule on when its close to the end of the 5 second time limit... same when it was 6 seconds with mls.................the one american idea soccer definitely needs to bring in at least at pro level is a time in play clock instead of continuous clock to stop all the time wasting...........other then maybe the last day of the epl league season when all games finish at the same time it would be an improvement to have two 35 minute t.i.p half's (then maybe going up to 2 40 half's) which would see a slight increase in goals/play in most matches...and you can still keep the old 90 minutes continuous clock for all amateur games for ease of use/lack of tech for most of the worlds games.
Great video! I can tell a lotttttttt of
research went into making this vid. Keep it up!
NASL, particularly the Washington Diplomats were responsible for my introduction and eventual love of soccer. Dig the video! Thanks for the awesome content!!
Crazy that are still American fans of soccer since the 70’s in this comment section of the video! That is rare if you think about it!
Fun fact. The MLS fan base is so strong and passionate out west is because generational fandoms from the days of the NASL. Teams like the Sounders, the Timbers, the Earthquakes, and the Whitecaps retained their history and thus legacy. Like Brian Schmetzer who's dad played for the NASL Sounders.
14:00 anyone watching when CBS has UCL rights and concacaf world cup qualifying?
Great I hope CBS doesn’t show commercials when they start broadcasting the champions league in a few years
They might do split screen.
Please NASL part II
You should’ve talked about NASL Indoor
Goal Horn Crazy it was in the original script actually. But the recording came out to 28 minutes, and I wanted to cut out a lot of time. So unfortunately, I trimmed out the indoor portion. Some day I plan on doing a history of indoor soccer and that’s when I’ll reintroduce it
Can you make a video about the most recent NASL going Defunct in 2018?
Wait? A match cut to commercial, and missed a goal?! That would never happen in England... 👀
Hey man, some sugestions for vídeos:
-the times when non-MLS team participate in a concacaf Championship
-cruz azul 11-0 Seattle sounders
-the friendlies between mls and European teams, victorys and loses like Wizards 2-1 Man United and humiliations like sounders 0-7 Man United too, and dc United 1-8 marsellie(idk why no one talk about this game)
-dc United in copa sudamericana
move mls to start in august and combine copa liberatores and concacaf champions league
CONMEBOL doesn't need us, we do a 16 club tournament with 41 countries while they do a 47 club tournament out of 10 countries. They're interested in making the sport is fine and good and giving opportunities to all their nations. CONCACAF is not. Merging both in my opinion would hurt CONMEBOL.
MLS did NASL dirty. Teams with true history and MLS decide to go with artificial club like NYCFC, LAFC, Atlanta United, etc...
Seattle Sounders. Portland Timbers. San Jose Earthquakes. Vancouver Whitecaps.
Alot of those other names were gimmicky. Even old MLS names like Dallas Burn and Kansas City Wizards were eventually done away with.
Way to go Danny!!!! Now what about another video on the demise on the NASL 2.0?
It's interesting that the NASL failed while MLS managed to find a niche in North American Professional Sports
MLS was specifically designed to avoid all the mistakes which caused he NASL to eventually fold...
Are you gonna any videos on women's soccer
WUSA,WPS &NWSL
Absolutely. Have to get back to MLS content for the next video, but women’s soccer will be featured soon
I prefer watching soccer
Hopefully NY Cosmos could come back and be another team in MLS, or at least Join USL. They’re too stubborn and don’t want to join the MLS model because they want to be a private owned club and not owned by MLS or USL
new york cosmos is my favorite American team from a chelsea fan
what happened to your hair!
Video Idea: Player Profiles; like what you did for Chris Wondolowski
Definitely want to make more of those features
@@dannytradio Raul Ruidiaz... I want to know what the conversation was like to bring him to MLS. He wanted to come to the Sounders. He had HIS People reach out to the club!!!!!
Still waiting on the video for save the crew
Cool videos. Keep it up
I learned a lot.
Dallas Tornadoes = Craziest Club in History.
And a much better name than this "F.C." nonsense we have now...
The 1986 world cup was originally supposed to be held in Colombia but it was moved to Mexico. If the US bid for that world cup had won, could the NASL have survived and prospered with the exposure?
Hadn’t even considered that. Wish I would have though because that’s a great question. I think it could have prolonged the life of the league, but I think eventually it would still go under. The USMNT really wasn’t great, and I’m not sure they would have escaped the group stages. So the excitement would have still been temporary. And unless the league really made an effort to develop American players, and if they made an effort to find more investors that were willing to stick around long term, I just can’t see them lasting forever.
As a young teen I attended San Jose Earthquakes games around 1974-78. Spartan stadium (SJSU) was packed with around 20K a lot. I saw Best, Pele, Cryuff, Chinalia, Beckenbaugher, The Quake's Americans were Mark and Buzz Demling and maybe the GK. We had Steven David, Paul Childs, Ilia MItic, Johnny Moore, and of course George Best, when he showed up! I think Parviz came from Iran later. Great memories. Now I watch strictly European Soccer. It's soooo much better than MLS.
The "soccer" thing is an 18th century English Upper Class nick-name shortener for the governing body of The Football "Association" as the Football Association was/is the governing body of FOOTBALL in England where Football came from. The word "Association" means a group of people or others organized for a joint purpose. So when you in The States say "Soccer Association" you are using a shortener for Association, with Association !!! How Stupid.
I am an Englishman ... I am coming up to my 59th year so I remember your N.A.S.L. we in Great Britain had a Saturday Sports programme called World of Sport, within it we had a football feature covering our football league, it was called On The Ball we would get a 5 minute feature on your N.A.S.L. it was looked upon as a figure of fun ... You are right on the reason's for its ending, I remember feeling sad for the football supporting people in North America when it ended. Your M.L.S. has better foundations and its bound to grow and prosper. I was happy to see The World Cup in The U.S. in 1994 and Very Happy to see it across North America again ... Its Great to see The World Game of FOOTBALL establish itself in North America!!!
Here's an idea for a future video; If USSF actually implements a relegation system for both MLS and USL.
THIS. USL has enough major market teams and it would make both leagues way more competitive and fun. It would also give more up and coming players exposure and the opportunity to develop whereas they might have gone under the radar previously.
Great video! Did not know much about the NASL. I think the mistakes that they did made the MLS better. Keep up the good work! (P.S. Rank MLS Mascots.)
He has already done that. Look on his channel.
Buck Burns don’t think he has, but we have 👌🏻
The increase in high school soccer was a direct result of the NASL. In Atlanta, the Chiefs required that all players be able to speak English, and also had a good number of players from Africa (Zambia, Ghana, South Africa, etc.). Phil Woosnam mandated that the players did as many clinics and camps as possible, which resulted in in an explosion of high school programs, and more importantly, youth and adult leagues. The same kind of thing happened in Dallas as well, especially after Ron Newman went to the Tornado from the Chiefs.
The footage you can see of the "so called Los Angeles Wolves" that was the English football team called Wolverhampton Wanderers playing the "so called Washington Whips" they were the Scottish football team called Aberdeen ... many British teams (as they do now) went over to America in the Summer time (out of our season) as we play August to May to promote The World Game in The States.
Great video again, Danny. I never knew the history of NASL this in depth, what a wild ride!
still waiting for that kicking it with drew collab ^__^
My dad used to take me to Tampa Bay Rowdies games when I was a kid. I even went to the Tampa Bay Rowdies soccer summer camp called Camp Kick in the Grass. I hated to see the league go under. I’m really rooting for current version of TBR to go to MLS one day.
Great video, as they all are
MLS is a joke compared to the NASL. If you were there and went to a lot of games, you would understand. Southern California was the place to be unless you were a Cosmos fan.
I *need* that rip NASL (again) video
It is on the to do list. Not in the next three videos, but shortly after that
I noticed a survivor reference in the video you a survivor fan Danny
Tampa Bay rowdies was and is a great franchise. The games were fun. They played good exciting soccer. It was a shame they were not allowed in the MLS.
Americans had played in Europe before the 1970s.
Commercial interuptions...dont worry advertising is how the rich beg
Danny T Radio where have you been? Can you make a video about the most recent NASL going out of business?
put the mic and chord under your shirt and run it up to your collar and clip it there for better audio. just a thought keep it up !
Interesting the first final was los angeles v washington that ended in a goldean goal.
Very similar to the first mls cup that was la galaxy v dc united that ended in golden goal.
Unless washington is washington state... then, nevermind.
Love your channel bro. Hope you keep pumping out quality videos like you always do.
CBS’s coverage of the NFL sucks too in Week 1 two games were knocked off the air
Was a big fan of the NY Generals. They played at Yankee Stadium.
My favorite NASL team name: The San Diego Jaws
It’s too easy. The NASL definitely did nothing better than MLS and nothing as good.
Wierd times. In ‘79, Detroit Express’ coach preferred to run things from up in a pressbox and typically called down his commands to one of his top players like Brian Tinnian. They made the finals in 1982 at least. The Express had to play at the old Pontiac Silverdome with full Detroit Lions football field markings on that oldstyle hard AF astroturf!
It's now the North American Premier League
Actually count down clock is better.
Lol
Imgaine having these thoughts
I have three NASL jerseys Chicago sting, cosmos, and earthquakes
new york cosmos is my favorite American team from a chelsea fan
MLS is slowly starting to look imbalanced (attendance terms) too... houston, Chicago, Dallas, San Jose, revolution, etc.... are starting to get behind
That’s natural and it happens in every us sports league
American soccer owes a great debt to the NASL.
Honestly i want to see NASL Style penalty shootout in MLS
The MLS & US Soccer Federation killed the NASL!!!
They're corrupt AF!!
That’s fifa for you. All of international association football in some form suffers from this
Tampa bay mutiny and Miami fusion both folded
I predict Chicago fire folding soon.
La nueva versión de esa liga no duró mucho
I was surprised that you didn't mention the biggest difference between the 1967 NPSL and USA: the NPSL teams were built from scratch, while the USA teams were actually international squads in disguise. (For instance, the USA champion Los Angeles Wolves were really England's Wolverhampton Wanderers.)
Rowdies should be in MLS
MLS needs to rebrand to USA
It would be a painful topic but I’d like to learn more about the US teams between 1950 and 1990 and what made them so bad they failed to qualify for 40 YEARS. Did they even attempt to qualify for every one of those World Cups? How do you beat England in 50 and go dormant that long? It may make us appreciate how far USMNT has come, considering our dark history.
Major League Soccer's New York teams, I think, are cursed to never win ANY tournaments because they refuse to use the "Cosmos" name, image, likeness, and history. I call it the "Pele Curse".
San Jose and Seattle already have a grassroots "Heritage Cup" for their NASL roots. Portland and Vancouver are waiting for other classic brands to join MLS before partaking in it.
Football
Mate no one asked
@@DavidN16792 im not your mate
Thank you for finally going off the reservation a little bit. It still felt like one of your videos nonetheless. Here's a couple thoughts:
1. Did you intentionally pronounce Pele's name wrong to upset NASL fanboys b/c that simultaneously feels like something you would do and apologize for.
2. At the end you said you hope the MLS moves past the single-entity model while acknowledging how it's helped MLS survive. Is this signaling at the long awaited video on Pro/Rel?
2B. If we're going to partly blame the Cosmos for the failure of the first NASL and also hope for the end of the single-entity model in MLS don't we need to acknowledge an open system will lead to NY and LA teams becoming super teams like the OG NY Cosmos were trying to in the OG NASL? It seems there's some circular logic us American soccer fans are never willing to acknowledge there.
I was born in 1968 and raised in the Oklahoma City area. In the mid seventies, the only professional soccer available on a week to week basis was a program on PBS called "Soccer Made in Germany", which highlighted games from the Bundesliga. When ABC picked up NASL games in the latter part of the seventies, it was like Christmas for me! I couldn't wait to get home from church to catch Giorgio Chinaglia, Rodney Marsh, Johann Cruyff and the rest of the legendary foreign players who had made their way to the NASL. I was around ten years old at the time...so I didn't really mind that the majority of the teams played on turf. I found shootouts to be incredibly exciting! (although I've since come around on that) Even though the NASL was one of the best things about my childhood, at the very least I'm glad it can be used as a model of what "not to do" as it relates to a league's survival. I wish nothing but complete and utter success for the MLS! (as well as the "beautiful game" in general)
Sa happy MLS is succeeding, but as someone who has experienced attending both leagues, I can tell you the NASL was far more exciting, and entertaining. shame it didn't last.
Maybe a jersey ranking video on the old nasl jerseys, the rebooted nasl jerseys, and usl jerseys? I liked the videos when you ranked home/away mls jerseys and keep up the good videos, new favorite UA-cam channel 💪🏻💪🏻
Nice video man, rip NASL, but it made a path for the creation of MLS. Also, you should make a video on your opinion on Pro-Rel or single table and the single-entity model, would be cool to see your side of it.
I grew up watching the Sounders in the Kingdome! I was devastated when they folded.
I liked the 35 year line offside rule. It opened the midfield. Defenders could not play at midfield, because a fast attacker could get behind them easier without having to worry about being offside.
The point system was also interesting. It definitely led to more attacking play.
Cosmos definitely killed the league. Other teams really did not stand a chance. It is like MLS teams vs MigaMX teams in CCL play today.
NASL was weird
NY Cosmos is still one of the most famous teams in America and they play in USA’s 5th division, they still have a solid fan base, at least solid enough for USL standards
Happy 4th danny
The offsides line and the tie rule was simply better than what we have now. Period. What killed NASL - Cosmos.