LM. 08.2 ֶָ[ANALYSE] Nightwish : Shoemaker (English subtitles)
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- Опубліковано 30 кві 2020
- [French with English subtitles]
Cette vidéo est l'analyse de la chanson 'Shoemaker' du groupe de métal symphonique Nightwish.
Ne manquez pas la réaction spontanée du Fr. Guylain à la chanson 'Shoemaker' de Nightwish :
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Cette vidéo fait partie de la série 'Lection Musica' commencée en avril 2020.
Passionné de musique rock sous toutes ses formes, mais aussi de gospel, de blues, de musiques québécoise et traditionnelles, le Fr. Guylain réagit spontanément, analyse et commente la chanson d'un artiste contemporain. Pour mieux comprendre la perspective et le sens de cette série vidéo voir la présentation de la série (français et sous-titres anglais) :
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Magnificent. I'll tell you, I appreciate seeing how your concept of the song develops over time, and if there's a song that warrants listening, and re-listening, as well as re-evaluation of our perception of the song, Shoemaker is definitely a good candidate. I really, *really* like the concept that Shoemaker is a love song. A multi-faceted love song, love from a man to nature, love from man to his profession, love from man to mankind. I very much appreciated that you mentioned Greek mythology and similar forms of symbolism. Once you mentioned that, I felt an overwhelming sense of visual inspiration.
"If I were to make 'the night' into a character, to personify my sense of the night, how might I do so?" At this point, I don't know for sure, but I connect heavily to the Forgotten Realms depiction of "the Raven Queen", the personification of death, veiled in a simple but elegant mask, and shrouded in a long black cloak, studded with raven's feathers. Cold, quiet, but somehow comforting. I loved the idea of the speaker shifting across various perspectives, from Shoemaker himself, to the whole of humanity, to the personification of the night. And each talks back and forth to one another. The intimacy is palpable, and once you recognize the love that is evident in the song, the intimacy is simply unavoidable. That which has been revealed can never again be shrouded.
I appreciated the good laugh at the idea of cutting up "Shoemaker" into tiny stars, per Romeo and Juliet, but I found that I was suddenly reminded of a man that I feel is one of the best scientific communicators on Earth, Neil Degrasse Tyson. Considering your interest in the sciences, astronomy, etc. you may very well be familiar with him, but when I think of Shoemaker's ashes being scattered on the moon, I feel like this image is, at its' heart, the absolute *CORE* of the cosmic perspective, the same perspective that Carl Sagan assumes when he monologues about the "pale blue dot". I think that by reducing Shoemaker to his most base elements, to simple ash, and dispersing his remains on some far-flung land, we have achieved something incredible as a species. We have pierced the veil that has kept us separate from the enormity of space. As human beings, we have all been born, lived, and will likely die upon this pale blue dot that we call Earth, but by dispersing Shoemaker's ashes on the moon, we have not only placed our feet on a faraway land, but we have left one to reside there into eternity. The cosmic perspective of infinite interconnectedness, which is elaborated on by Tyson himself, speaks to both the astounding enormity of the universe as we understand it, but also our place within it. We are but a tiny crowd of hairless apes, standing upon a mote of dust, suspended within a sunbeam. And yet, we strive. Forever, we strive. We adventure. We seek. And through this act of seeking, we discover the enormity of the task that lies before us. And we carry on, all the same.
ua-cam.com/video/kl0J6Le5MpM/v-deo.html - The Most Astounding Thing.
Speechless. Again.
And here I am in the most enjoyable artistic/musical ride of my past 20 years. And I have the privilege of a dialogue with people like you? How does that all happen? When I decided three or four weeks ago to explain to my French Canadian fellows the meaning and the beauty of an underestimated style of music (symphonic metal), how is it that two Netherlanders came and visited my then 30-40 subscribers YT channel and ask me for English subtitles? From this first video, a story unfolds in front of my very eyes . The numbers are there, but more important, the quality is here. My videos open a space for dialogue; and truly I believe that I am the most privileged of all. Just thank you.
@@GuylainPrince Art, love, the human heart and soul; all these are timeless and know no boundaries such as religion, age, or nationality.
Nightwish is the medium whereby similar-minded people such as yourselves are enabled to come together in these ways. And that is Toumas gift, his power.
And we are all enriched along the way in stages: first by the original art itself, then again by the analysis of that art, then finally again in our interactions with each other in our discussion resulting from the analysis of the original art. It's a beautiful thing to see unfold and to be a part of. What a time to be alive
Guylain, you mention the word "awe" in this reaction. A perfect word to describe my reaction to your analysis. I am totally in awe over your undeniable intelligence, perception, passion and from what I can tell, kind and good heart. Truly amazing to follow your adventures into the world of lyrics and music. Thank you!
Awww ! Thank you so much.
Thanks for this wonderful explanation. I am an italian geologist researcher at university, i can tell that it is exactly like you said: we fall in love with our subject, the Earth, and although we use the scientific method to understand it and how it was formed and how it works, we (at least, i) have a deep feeling of love and respect and wonder towards it. Science is just a way, but often intuition, fed by love and enchantment, comes before any mathematic demonstration. No equation can describe what i feel when i am close to a volcanic eruption, caught by the power and beauty of nature. I think Shoemaker felt the same and i am so happy and proud that Nightwish told his story. This song makes me cry every time i listen to it, 'cause it speaks directly to my soul.
Dear Helena, I find this idea of Tuomas absolutely generous. How many artists took the time to present the scientific quest in such beautiful words and music? How many ? To my knowledge, almost none. They feel, somehow, that science is the opposite of artistic work. Not always. You and me know that there is a lot of dedication, and yes! love to give our lives or a good part of our lives to the subject of our research. And to link the quest or Shoemaker with the yearning of a Romeo for his Juliette is... I can't think of any word. Thanks for sharing.
I truly hope that Tuomas and the rest of Nightwish have a chance to watch this video. This is one of the greatest videos I have ever watched on UA-cam. Thank you, so very much.
Well... I think with all the delays and everything changed with the COVID, they have something else to think. I haven't had any reaction from the band ans/or Nuclear Blast, ecept for a very nice hello from Kaï. It seems that they have something else to do.
Great analysis again. Many YT reactors are moved by Nightwish, and some are moved by the lyrics. But none have this deep appreciation for Tuomas 's writing. Love to be part of your ride.
Indeed the moon is tidally locked to the Earth. But the eternal Earthrise may even mean more. Shoemaker was buried near the South Pole of the Moon, actually in a permanently shadowed area of the Shoemaker crater. That location however means that he always sees the Earth rising just over the Moons horizon.
Don't tell me that ! WOW ! Beautiful. So a crater has been names after him?
@@GuylainPrince Yes that is correct.
Thanks!!! Good to know. Peace!
I think it can no longer classify as music, but as art, hymn, a blessing...
To me, this song is so much more ! Like you say... Another level.
Magnificent analyst Guylain. I have watched all of your videos and thoroughly enjoyed every minute.
I did comment on several of them but for some reason YT prevented me from posting for around two weeks.
This has to one of the most complicated Rock songs ever devised by man. From the musical arrangement/song structure, to the lyrics, to the unexpected ending, everything about it is fascinating.
I'm really curious about Tuomas writing style. I am a native English speaker, quite well read and educated but i struggle to understand exactly where his lyric style comes from. Not just in this song but throughout the Nightwish catalogue he uses the most cryptic poetic style that seems to me to be unique to him and keep in mind that his first language is Finnish not English. In the early days i just thought of it as what the UK music press used to call' Metal English' but its so much more than that at this point. 'Metal English' was the style of lyric that evolved from European bands translating their own language into English with all of the indigenous phrases and accents still visible.Kind of the flip side of the American English older bands sang in.
He is also very unusual in that he self references himself in the second/third person in a lot of songs (The Boy, The dead boy, The oceanborn). There is something of the 'Peter Pan' about him and i mean that in a good way. Definitely a very interesting character and someone i would very much like to meet in person.
Thank you once again for taking the time to tease out the threads of this song. I can tell that you enjoyed every minute of it but we still appreciate your efforts.
In the '70, there was a style called "Progressive Rock". You would find there absolute gems of construction and poetry. As an example: Genesis. I have all their discography (also Yes, etc.). The five musicians of Genesis are brilliant. All of them. And even if they lost two members (Gabriel and Hackett), they were able to keep themselves at a very high level of artistry. Tony Banks is, for me, a keyboardist and composer of another dimension. I see Tuomas right behind and this is, from me, the highest tribute to Tuomas as a musician and composer. In a complex song like "Selling England by the Pound", the young Genesis already showed something exceptional. But, in terms of music, there is a summit for me in the album 'When the Lamb Lies Down'. If you want to hear other great composers/musicians, that would be the perfect start. To me, the problem of that opus is the lyrics. For a reason that escapes me, Peter Gabriel was not able to focus on something and it is too bad because the music of this album is out of this world. I can't help but compare these two albums. And here is pretty much what I think. As a composer, Tuomas, all by himself, has produced works that are not very far behind collective works considered to be the very best in rock history. I will have to give myself a bit of reflection here, but at this point, I tend to think that there is no other example of a single man - the composer and the lyricist - attaining such results. Already, this would be exceptional. But then, you have to complete this picture with two other things: his genuine admiration and celebration of the scientific contribution. In that, I don't see anyone else. And second: a coherent vision. There is a 'stance', a posture, that he has in his work, a quite consistent one: pride in the best part of what humanity can accomplish (science, art, poetry, etc.) and humility as he considers the stellar world and nature. We find through this album a clear picture of our fragility and our limitations while keeping a positive point of view on man's best side. These few elements bring Tuomas to another level to me. And - oh! - one last thing. This is something I learned two days ago: he writes very complicated crosswords as a sideline. This would explain why everything is expressed in a very creative and, sometimes, cryptic way. All in all, I am not sure if I would use the word genius, but, to me, we are getting closer with every single song I open. As you know, I still have to keep my part of the bargain. Four more songs to look into. Peace!
Guylain, you are the coolest guy in the youtube. Greetings from Finland, the home of Nightwish.
Ha ha ha ! Well, I am a Franciscan friar with longer hair than most of my colleagues, but that would be as far as I can be on the 'cool' side. Maybe you refer to the fact that I like rock, metal and prog? Well, some have a home painted in pink, others in blue. My musical life is mainly painted in the colours of hard rock, prog and metal. It is simple : it is my musical home. I listen to other kind of music, of course, but always come back here. If that makes me 'cool' to you, that's fine with me. I take that as a compliment. Peace.
@@GuylainPrince "Cool", here, is absolutely a compliment. A "cool" guy is someone who is not mundane, not average, not boring, but great-minded, of fine intelligence, of exceptional touch to the life and minds of their fellow people of this Earth. One that receives - and deserves! - respect.
Having listened through your analysis, I say you are such man.
Okay, you've won me over. I already like it on an emotional level but now it's my favorite song of the album. Thank you for your time and diligent efforts to produce these analyses videos.
Most welcome!
Guylain, thank you for taking the time to make this analysis. I have appreciated Tuomas' talent as a composer for some time now, but did not fully grasp his talent for lyrics until now. You connected things for me in a way that I could not have connected in my own.
Dear Andrew, one suggestion: follow this path until the end. And to my review. You will be amazed, and amazed, and amazed by the lyrics. In fact, I am not sure if I ever witnessed anything like that before. In terms of lyrics, I believe, now, that Tuomas is in a class by himself.
After such a beautiful awe inspiring analysis you are allowed to say amen :)
I am an atheist, but we have the love for music, Nightwish and astronomy in common. We are all human and we all live in nature, mother earth. I've subscribed to your channel.
Thanks! Well, it seems that we share that with Tuomas, as well! I am so touched by his music, I don't remember any album or artist that had this kind of effect, song after song. But you are right, Shoemaker is special.
Thank you very much for your excellent and enlightning analysis. From the stories I read, the interviews with Tuomas I viewed and from listening the album over and over and over again I was aware of the various connections between the songs. But you have given this not just one but multiple new dimensions for me.
What I specifically like is Tuomas' reference to the night not as being dark, but being starry, sparkling and the 'start of everything'.
And I too misinterpreted Laudato Si Ad Astra as 'Praise to the stars' instead of 'Praise to you, towards the stars' which is a far more powerful meaning. Thank you for the insight!
I truly think that Tuomas gave a very good thought about it. Being completely coherent, he would have wrote the feminine singular : in love with the Night, as being the 'Juliette' of this song. Then, the reference to the two writings would have been blurred. He was aware of that. And strictly speaking, I am not sure that he was at ease in making a very 'religious statement' in a very 'religious-like' musical environment would have been a 'faux-pas' from a publicly declared atheist. The addition of Ad Astra : "to stars, towards stars", kind of "attenuate" a all-religious-interpretation. And in the context of this song, it becomes a complete union/fusion of 'Shoemaker' with his beloved 'Night', the completion of his lifelong 'urge' to surrender himself 'to the stars'.
I tend to despise the labels we place on others and ourselves, as the narrow scope of the label reduces us by its inherent limitations. Nevertheless we're often required to apply labels to ourselves, so that we may make ourselves known to others.
I have a fascination for Nightwish. I like many bands and many genres of music, but I only have a fascination for one. However, until your analysis, I could never clearly enunciate why.
So to explain why, I will have to apply one of those restricting labels to myself, "spiritual atheist". I have always had a great reverence for the natural world and the cosmos. Thanks to your analysis, I now recognize explicitly that which I have apparently, always understood implicitly - that I share the same worldview as Nightwish.
Thank you.
Now on to some details. The lunar probe that carried Shoemaker's ashes was deliberately crashed into the crater named after him, in the hope that the plume of debris thrown up by the impact, would reveal the presence of water. So quite literally his ashes were scattered all over the lunar surface by the impact. The urn containing his ashes and the quotation from Shakespeare, would have also been shattered. So not only was Shoemaker's ashes scattered, but so was Shakespeare's passage from Romeo and Juliet - "cut into little stars". A trivial detail, but something that adds an extra colour to the narrative.
The mares on the moon that form its 'face' were originally thought to have been seas. I wonder how much that impacted the use of 'sea' in the lyrics?
BTW, I watched your " Evangelization in a Secularized World" and I found it interesting in a positive way, that you see the Quiet Revolution as an opportunity rather than a problem.
I think that there are many spiritual atheistics, to take your words. I have two close friends among them. A philosopher and a scientist. They would connect to that song in a snap. This awe, this 'openness' in front of the Beauty, the Infinite, is something experienced as extremely nourishing and satisfying in itself. My respect is genuine in this video, and not a tool. Intellectual honesty is one of my mottos. Happy I was of any help.
I think that in this second analysis of the lyrics you managed to go beyond "flesh", and get to the "bone". I doubt there's anything left unanalyzed. And the decipherment of the last two verses, with references to St. Francis of Assisi and the encyclical of Pope Francis, was a real feast. I look forward to the next episode. Stay safe.
Imagine that, Gabriel! I shot 4 different versions of that. I published the two first and then ditched them all. None of them was good enough for this song. Yesterday, I went back to the drawing board and decided to add the section you refer to. Everything from there fell into place. By saying why I was so moved by the two final words helped me to find my focus. I shot everything non-stop. It is too long to my taste, but at least I was able to tell you all the admiration I have for Tuomas, as a songwriter. Thanks for your comment.
@@GuylainPrince I thank you too, but I bet there is even a lot more that can be analyzed :) Tuomas is a genius and he leaves room for own interpretations.
Thank you!
Simply beautiful! Like you say, there is something within Tuomas that is way bigger than his musicianship, even as he is clearly one of the worlds greatest musicians. We are blessed to have such an intellectual and spiritual artist in our lifetime. Inspiring people to think about the big stuff can only make the world a better place for all of us.
Laudato Si
Tuomas and Nightwish!
I might add: a man who pays due tribute to sciences and scientists. In music and in poetry. Quite unique, I think.
@@GuylainPrince Indeed.
Peace!
I just happened to stumble across you browsing youtube, I don't speak a word of french and my dyslexia sometimes makes reading difficult however so far I've watched you react and analyze the few songs. And I'll be honest there is thousands of people reacting to nightwish's music but very few take the time to break down the lyrical genius of their songs and watching you break down how the lyrics and music work ttogether as a whole to paint a picture for the listener is truly a treat.
If you had asked me before today, I'd be watching a French Canadian friar break down and analyze my favorite type of music(hard rock/metal) in a favorable light, I would have never would have believed you. But here I am, clicking the sub button ready to watch move of your reactions/analysis
Honestly there's a few songs in by Nightwish that deserve that that kind of lyrical analysis beyond just their Human Nature album and perhaps once you've finished your way through that album you can take a look at a few of their older works,
If you had finished the Human || Nature album, you would know that I am about to begin an historical survey: ten songs chosen by the fans through their history. This is what I do, presently, for the band EPICA. When I am finished (in August), I will go back in the history of Nightwish. It will be fun, you will see!
@@GuylainPrince i am very glad to hear that, I hadn't gotten through all your videos yet doing your vids in order I definately enjoying the journey so far.
Your analysis says it all. Absolutely loved everything you said in the video.
This may sound silly, but as a gamer, I really liked the line "a waypoint to the far". In some games "waypoints" are particular spots that players can discover in the in-game world and that become a place where we can easily return later (by fast travel function, for example) to continue exploration. So, for me this line in the song sounds like Shoemaker was a person who discovered this "waypoint" from where we, humanity, can proceed to explore "the far", the space.
That is a SPECTACULAR addition to the subject. In English, there is this beautiful expression : "my home away from home"; away from my home, I have a place I feel safe and comfortable, where I can rest. This is brilliant. I am not sure, but I think that Tuomas likes some of these games, isn't it? That makes so much sense! Brilliant. Thanks!
Because I did not hear you mention it and did not see it in the comments, I would like to remark two things. Shoemaker regretted deeply he was no able to become an astronaut, but he did help in training those who became 'sailors to the stars' which is the literal translation of the word astronaut. (Btw: the Russians have 'sailors to the universe', kosmonauts.) Lines like 'a sailor through aeons' and 'a ship that sailed home' and the phrase 'stellar sea' and 'guiding light' are referring to both seafaring and 'spacefaring'.
The closing two words 'ad astra' refer also to the subtitle of the last piece of music on the second cd of Human Nature.
On this record nothing is coincedence.
Totally agree! Great insights!
Merci, for explaining this to me. I really like how you put into words what this song does to you. I can relate to your way of thinking! Many blessings to you!
Thanks! And you are absolutely right : I try to put into words what I feel. Perfect!
You are best Nightwish reactor!
Can't wait for the next song.
For 'How's the heart', it will be Monday night at 9:00 p.m. of my time. 8:00 PM for Europe and 2:00 PM for North America, time of Montréal. Peace to you !
~25:00 The "we" in those verses can also be taken as humanity, following Shoemaker to the stars. He was the first, he won't be the last.
Yup, that is one of my understanding as well.
I'm very late to the party here, but I must say, after just discovering your reaction and analysis videos, that these are truly some of the best, most interesting music reactions and analyses I've seen on UA-cam. I've been a fan of Nightwish for many years, and have watched a ton of different reaction videos (it's always great fun to see people watch Nightwish songs for the first time), but your videos are truly special. Very much looking forward to watching more of your videos. I wish you everything good and hope you are doing well! Best wishes from Norway
I have to say : reaction and analysis of NW's music is among my favorites. For the music of course, but also the poetry. And the fans! The discussion we had on this channel are legendary! I will come back in doing this next fall 2023 !
Merci, merci, merci... σας ευχαριστώ πολύ! Salut d' Athènes, Grèce
Vous êtes salués depuis le Canada ! What a beautiful message from you! Peace!
Your analysis made me cry tears of joy, as though I could feel the night reaching out to embrace me with the rest of humanity. Your thoughts on this song were lovely!
Thanks. I rarely have that kind of "love struck" feeling like I had this time.
Beautiful analysis and a delight to watch. Thank you!
Thank you !!!
It's a real pleasure hearing you muse over the lyrics, offering interpretation and insight. This is truly an amazing song that inspires, as you mentioned, "awe". A real standout in an album that is incredibly strong. I enjoyed it on my first listening but it keeps growing on me and your videos help me to further develop my love for it.
I still have few songs to get to know, but I do feel that it is a strong opus, we say in French. Since I am a slow learner, I like to work a bit in advance so that I can enjoy the experience even more. Especially with poetry. Words have to 'dance' in my heart so that I understand them.I hope this helps a bit. Peace to you.
A wonderful analysis! Just so you know, "sky-clad" in the Wiccan religion means being outside naked, exposed to the sky.
Ha ha ha! This is what we call "technical terms". That hilarious! And thanks.
Bonjour Guylain
Profonde analyse.
Je suis d'accord sur le fait que la musique dit aussi des choses que les mots ne peuvent pas et l'interprétation de Floor Jansen, ses textures de voix soigneusement réfléchis, témoignent d'une belle compréhension de ce qu'elle chante .Et elle n'est pas la seule tout le groupe est impliqué dans la construction sonore de la musique. C'est, à l'évidence, le disque le plus collectif de Nightwish, témoignant d'une grande cohésion ainsi qu'une maturité dépassant les clichés du genre tout en restant très classique et traditionnel sans se priver d'utiliser l'électronique ou des ingrédients de musique contemporaine quand le besoin s'en fait sentir.
Et je suis aussi d'accord avec vous au sujet des textes qui sont d'une importance essentielle et qu'il est dommage d'ignorer.
Henk Port a dit que chaque chanson de Nightwish est un petit opéra Là, nous avons un album qui est un opéra des étoiles et de la Terre avec l'humanité au milieu.
Amitiés
En fait, je crois que tout, dans cet album, a été vécu sous forme de 'gestation'. Le compositeur a porté et accouché de quelque chose ; les interprètes aussi, chacun à son propre rythme. Et Tuomas, tel un chef d’orchestre, supervise la régie en studio, témoin de sa vision qui se déploie et - vous avez parfaitement raison - qui est nourrie par ses collègues. L’inspiration ne correspond pas qu’à l’étincelle initiale ; elle anime tout le processus créatif. Le rendu qui sera offert au public résulte d’un long processus vital. Plus j’avance dans cette œuvre et plus je crois à des choix artistiques, parmi les plus fins. Je n’en finis pas, comme vous le dites, d’en saisir les nuances. En fait, faut-il en finir ? Que nous puissions être sensibles au travail d’un artiste en approfondissant sa vision du monde, sa saisie du réel, n’est-ce pas justement une occasion de sortir de nos ornières et d’enrichir notre regard sur le monde ? Nul doute pour moi, cette chanson m’a offert l’un des plus beaux itinéraires artistiques, esthétiques et - j’ose le dire - spirituels que j’ai vécus depuis longtemps. Assurément en musique rock. Et en bonus, de pouvoir échanger sur tout cela avec des gens comme vous ? Les anglophones disent : « Priceless ». Cela n’a pas de prix.
@@GuylainPrince oui il ne faut pas chercher à en finir...
et laisser les points de suspension pour ce que l'on ne peut comprendre, ce que l'on ne comprends pas et ce que l'on comprendra.
Très vrai. Merci d'être là.
I didn’t think I’d appreciate this song more. I’m glad I found your channel!
Ha ha ha ! Isn't that a great song?
Greetings from Greece... I love your channel... I really admire your passion over this brilliant masterpiece.. Before your analysis Shoemaker was just a beautiful song to me... Now that I have watched your analysis Shoemaker is a life lesson to me... Thank you so much... I'm sorry for my bad English... God bless you..
I would be very interested to watch your reaction to the songs of previous albums.. For instance, my favorite song of all, "the poet and the pendulum"... This song is an experience for me... Just love it...
I will do it, probably, in two months. It is on my program. For now, there is Epica.
I have a slightly different view of two pieces, from two verses, that fit together. "We're coming to join you" and "A waypoint to the far". There are new flights to the moon being planned, as a first step towards manned missions to Mars. So we are coming to join him on the moon, but just as a first step to reach out further.
Well, I said that these lines can be interpreted from the "celestial elements" or from a human point of view. And I stated very fast that it was, indeed, a reading. But this song is very rich, musically and in terms of lyrics. Enjoy!
Have watched your videos and I can only say thank you for the wonderful work and dedication you have put into this album. From my very first listening to this album I have loved it and it really is beautiful. It really is amazing to listen to your analyses through the lyrics, thank you so much. Best wishes from Finland.
I am aware of two things, and that is the reason why I did that series in the first place : 1) English is not my mother tongue. Not the one of my fellow French citizens. We hear a lot of music, but listen very little. English songs are like a 'Noise' in the background. We don't know what the artists says and sometimes have no idea of the meaning of the song. 2) Very soon I realized that there was a large fan base with Nightwish (and certainly other bands), and their mother tongue is NOT English either. To write the subtitles - it takes more time to do that than the video themselves - is a service for a lot of people. Until now, I have received questions and thanks in a dozen languages, at least. This is something I did not have in mind when I began, but it became important very fast. And the last element, for me, it the appreciation of the poetry of Tuomas. I have a sense of his mindset, of his 'refrains' and phrase structure; that is priceless. After this album, there is NO WAY I will ever listen to Nightwish songs without paying attention to the lyrics. Ever. After I know what it talks about, I will bang my head like the others. But I want to know why.
@@GuylainPrince Thank you for putting the effort in translation. I studied French for 6 years because I wanted to understand what Mireille Mathieu was singing when I did listen to her a lot, the French singer. So listening to your french some of the language came back in mind, but that is a long time ago.
In my mind Tuomas is one of the most amazing composer's in todays world. The lyrics in his songs are so meaningful because every song he writes comes from something that touches his mind, like he said what he takes in, view from nature, a book, a picture, a movie or here the scientist story has to come out in music...that for me is amazing.
It is. Admiration here for the lyricist, the composer, the person.
Think about his wife, Carolyn Shoemaker(an astronomer). She look up and see him every night. Still working in her 90ths, I think?
She was co-discoverer of the Shoemaker-Levy asteroid-cluster(comet) who crashed in to Jupiter in 1994.
As of 2002, She had discovered 32 comets and over 300 asteroids. She really looks out for us.
I think this act of kindness from Tuomas is remarkable. He may have been inspired by the story itself when he was told, but I think he has done an amazing feat: to tell the story of a scientist as a love story. Hats off to him!
I've never understood how genius this song is. Thank you so much.
I must ask, have you read much Tolkien? This is song also reminds me of Earendil, a half-elf who sailed to Paradise, where he became a star sailing through the sky.
I have read all Tolkien. Both as a teenager and as an adult. Maybe 15 years ago. Did you notice that there is probably a reference to Tolkien in "Pan"? "There and back again!"
@@GuylainPrince Shockingly enough, I have not heard Pan yet. Now I am very excited for the reference! Thank you! I love your analyzations, they make me appreciate the song so much more.
Mercy beaucoup, mercy beaucoup. Thank you for your beautifull analysis of this song. 💕
Most welcome !
Great, great analysis again GP. Eugene Shoemaker's wife Carolyn is still alive. She will be 91 next month. She is also a highly awarded astronomer and co-discoverer of the Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 which slammed into the planet Jupiter in 1994. Wouldn't it be really interesting to know what she and their children would say about this song, if they ever knew of its existence.
I find it hard to believe that they would not be touched and inspired. In looking for who was Shoemaker (Wikipedia or somewhere else), I found a note about the tribute given to the scientist by the band Nightwish. This being written in a biography-style document. Thanks for the info given here. Few things I knew, but did not have such a clear picture. It makes sens even more.
"Cut in little stars"
All atoms are generated in the cores of stars, and when they explode as supernovae, those atoms separate and form stardust, with which planets are formed and with which we are formed.
When we are incinerated, we convert back to dust.
In stardust.
So , our ashes are "start dust" , literally.
Excellent!
Thank you for this wonderful analysis of the song, music, lyrics and everything .
Most welcomed, dear visitor!
What a discovery! I do not know how arrived here (I do not speak French), but I am impressed with your analysis and the quality of the comments/conversations in here.
Now you have a new subscriber and I have to go to your first video and start the travel…
Thanks from Spain!
Yes. I did it in French for a little while, but making subtitles in French while the song is in English... I was too long for me. 5-6 hours. Now, in less than one hour I can validate the subtitles in English and have translated in 8 languages in 2 hours... So, beginning with the series last summer (Nightwish and The Warning) the videos are in French. And don't forget, the recent ones have Spanish subtitles!!!
@@GuylainPrince Nice! I have started with the Nightwish videos (I rediscovered them some months ago as I quitted after Tarja left the band, and now I can’t stop listening their music).
I checked one of your latter videos and it’s true that is easier to follow with you speaking in English, although listening to speak in French has its charm!
Monsieur Guylain Prince, vous êtes vraiment un bon analist, vous faite qui les gens se sent physiquement dans votre explication sur cette histoire .Je suis efectivement fasciné avec votre description sur cette matière "Shoemaker". Je vous remercie beaucoup et vous Salue!
Merci de tout coeur, Ana! Continuez l'exploration de ce SUPER album! Vous ne serez pas déçue!
Merci Brother, a profound and enlightened analysis. Gave me a whole new view on this incredible piece of musical composition. Merci beaucoup
Most welcome!
I see this song also describing the journey of humans to space. "We came here to be a waypoint to the far"-> The current plan of humanity's journey to Mars is to first fly to the Moon, and then continue to Mars, and beyond. "We came here to stay"-> The Artemis program, where the moon station will be a home for the scientists. "With your guiding light"-> All this is possible, because of Shoemaker, whose lifework, the light, guides us on our journey. Amazing video, these give my brain a time to relax in between studying. Thank You.
Yup! That is my understanding as well! Excelllent comment!
…..I have no words...your analysis convinced me....I will now become a Habs fan....Thank you for the breathtaking journey… Greetings from the Land of Tuomas`.
Pffooooaaa ha ha ha ! Well, with Nightwish and the Montreal Canadiens, the Great North and the lovely night skies, there is certainly a connection here between Northern Europ and my part of the world. Peace to you !
P.S. You don't have to be a Habs' fan to convince me to love NW !
Well let's be reasonable here. It's a phenomenal analysis, but there are certain things that shouldn't be done, and rooting for the Habs is one of them. Leafs fan here.
I like you, anyway ! But next time, I'll kick you out of this channel !
(Just kidding :-))
Thank you for your excellent brain work and your passionately singing heart!
This is most kind. Bringing these two together.
Sometimes I like to come back to these videos and remind myself of the meaning behind the lyrics I listen to everyday. Great work
Thanks! Well, you know that I will come back to NW... the new series of the "Annette and Floor's era" will begin on September 17th, in one month!
Encore une magnifique analyse , on ce rand conte trais vite que Tuomas est un auteur compositeur impressionnant, vu les travaille de recherche que il entreprend je me dis que sa doit aitre un travaille colossale de réussir a trouvé des mot et des phrase qui touche le chœur , ton analyse est comme toujours formidable ,c'est tellement poussée que sa nous montre l'ingéniosité de Tuomas , je te remercie infiniment pour cette analyse que j'ai trouvé incroyable =)
Il est très impressionnant. Ne manque pas ma "review" à la toute fin. Je crois qu'il est dans une classe à part.
@@GuylainPrince oui =) je le ferais avec plaisirs **O**
Glad to find your channel Father. I don't know alot of Catholics I can talk Nightwish with. Tuomos is both a poetic and a musical genius. I find all kinds of levels to his songwriting.
I agree. Here, at home, we are three who love NW : another friar and a postulant.I always said : if Tuomas was still a Christian, he would be a Franciscan. He has it all!
I don’t know what happened with Tuomos. One day he’s writing “ The Carpenter “ then all the sudden he’s writing “Weak Fantasy”. Sad. You should sit down with him, get him back in the Church :)
With regards to the religious-like ending, as someone not religious I simply read his version of Laudato Si as being aimed at the Night, the personification of the endless beauty of space he (Tuomas) has built up throughout the song.
Your founder stood in awe and lauded a personal god (that he percieved in those things that awed him),
Tuomas stood in awe and lauded the very thing that awed him (the night, the endlessness and beauty of space) directly.
One of the beauties of the song is that whatever your view, you as the listener get to share in the *same* awe, and laude whatever you see in it.
Any entity or absence of entity, any grand design or just the things being as they are.
It unites us despite our differences, united in our love for the night and our desire to reach for the stars.
That to me is beautiful.
I agree with you. Towards the stars, we can be both in awe. By the natural beauty of the infinity. For those, like me, believing in a personnal God will have an occasion the be thankfull. But bith of us will be amazed and in awe in from of the "starry vault'. "Laudato Si", even if it is adressed to a personal God, needed to be that way so that the reference to the the previous writings is clear enough. It is a wonderful peace of art.
Je pensais pendant un moment que j'étais dans un univers parallele, mais je vois que vous avez fait un nouvel essai! Vous l'avez distillé jusqu'à une belle analyse. Merci Guylain!
Bien pensé. En fait, je n'étais pas satisfait des autres essais. Vou savez quoi? J'ai essayé une autre fois. Mais celle-la, j'ai bloquée juste avant publication. Chaque fois, c'était insuffisant. Et puis cette histoire de droits qui me pendait au bout du nez, chaque fois. Celle-ci est longue, mais elle a le mérite d'être assez complète et sans souci de droits d'auteur. Et comme je sais que la plupart des gens, de toute façon, n'écoute que ce qu'ils veulent bien, alors, pourquoi pas? Merci !
Good evening Sir. I am truly humbled by what has happened to my 'state of being' this last year... as you, I came to know Floor by Beste Zangers on the Dutch television (I'm a 52 year old inhabitant of their neighboring country Belgium 🇧🇪 which gives me two perkes; I speak Dutch and French, allowing me to enjoy both you and them...😊) She touched my very soul, and again as yourself I wanted to know all about her... from Shallow to Mama, to Vilja lied, Phantom of the opera, Euphoria, and all the other songs of Beste Zangers, to her personal channel with 'covers' as Alone, Adagio...oh my... Next step was Nightwish...what a journey that in itself was!!! And unlike you, I was never 'in to' metal so you can imagine how they literally rocked my world...☺ I fell in love all over again and explored all their Floor-material (So sorry if I offend anyone, but Tarja and Anette are both very skilled artists, but they don't "kick me in the stomach while caressing my cheek" like Floor does...) than UA-cam led me to you, a man of God (who reminds me so much of my late uncle who was a Frère in the order of the Rerumtoristen) and than Tuomas comes up with this incredible album Human :||: Nature which is now even better thanks to you taking me by the hand on this awesome journey... my point; my life and even my way of looking at things in general is so much richer than at the start of this quest... Thank you Floor, thank you Nightwish, and thank you Sir... you together may have saved the world... because I was in a place where I wasn't planning on 'burning my rope'. Now I did. And as some say; saving one person is saving the world... please accept my gratitude and respect. Good night.🤍
This message of yours fills my Sunday evening with the sun of gratitude and joy. There is a reason I do this : I enjoy this music, and I have found Peace in a most unexpected way, even for myself. To be able to dialogue about great music, great meaning and great meaning is such a blessing FOR ME! My channel has become a place of dialogue, respect and enjoyment of beauty. I give what I receive from all of you. A message like yours covers 100 "trolls" and disrespectful messages. You can count on me : plenty of music to explore. Plenty great discussion. Always feel at home, here!
@@GuylainPrince Thank you so much for your kind words Sir, I believe I can safely assure you that they mean more to me than you can now. I admit, as with many other things, I struggle with my belief... but if Faith causes the sculpting, the "creation", of beautiful people like yourself, the question "Does God exist?" becomes more trivial, almost irrelevant even, as just believing He does can allready bring such warm results... So sorry I can not translate my thoughts that well in writing, but something tells me that analyzing my scribblelings will not take much effort for a man of your obvious great talent...😊 I bid you a good evening Sir, as I will now return to your channel to discover some more gems... stay safe!
Thank you for your detailed analysis! I have an entirely new appreciation for this song and its meaning now :-)
My pleasure! Isn't that a great song?
I am impressed. Your analysis based on a solid interpretation of the words and verses and the coherence between them and even to the other songs produces conclusions which I fully endorse. First there is the conclusion that the song reveals a love relationship between Shoemaker (humanity) and the night (the stars, the universe) and second that it encourages everybody (mankind) to further explore these relationship, i.e. the stars (universe). This could as you conclude not only be a matter of inspiration. It could also and I agree again with you have a spiritual connotation. To this I like to add that especially the final laudatio si part by Floor produces a 'Stimmung' , which may be described as heaven. And if this is heaven, I like to be there!
Yup. I would like to be there too!
Nightwish is like a magical, majestic metal joy machine, and you can see it in the faces of their fans.
Music mixing the beauty and beast, the chaos and peace, the darkness and light of nature and the human experience is like an essential spiritual nutrient for me. Bands like Nightwish, Epica and others lead a mighty charge and the metal world, millions strong ride with them, and before this army does fear and pain and evil flee, and it is glorious.
🙂
Floor, Simone, Anneke, Dianne and other sirens are like living spiritual jems, helping me resolve the trials and noise of life and face what comes in peace.
Well done, friend.
One of the best reaction channels out there.
A child will listen 30 times the 'Lion King' or the 'Little Mermaid'. Or ask there parents 20 times the same story. Why. A friend of mine, a children psychologist, told me : storytelling help all children - and adults, she added - to heal and to give meaning to something happening in their heart. You are so right, sir. Thanks for passing by.
Hello Guylain. You have really dived deeply into these lyrics to shed more light into all the nuances and meaning of this masterpiece. The more I listen to this album, the more I realise it is like an onion! Layer upon layers of meaning and everytime you peel a layer back there is another profound layer underneath. Thanks for such consise explanations and for your hard work, even if it is very pleasurable for you. Stay safe my friend and regards from the UK.
Bonjour Guylain. Vous avez vraiment plongé profondément dans ces paroles pour faire la lumière sur toutes les nuances et le sens de ce chef-d'œuvre. Plus j'écoute cet album, plus je me rends compte que c'est comme un oignon! Couchez sur des couches de sens et chaque fois que vous en retirez une, il y a une autre couche profonde en dessous. Merci pour ces explications concises et pour votre travail acharné, même si cela vous est très agréable. Restez en sécurité mon ami et salutations du Royaume-Uni.
Merciiiii ! Thank you! Much appreciate that!
J'habite aux Pays Bas et naturellement je suis Hollandais mais je vais essayer de vous repondre en Francais :-) . J'aime beacoup la façon dont vous expliquez et commentez; combination parfaite avec votre voix!! Et pour un Hollandais qui sait un peu Francais c'etait facile a suivre grace a votre pronunciation. Merci pour cette belle expérience expliquer une belle chanson !
Grands mercis! J'apprécie au plus haut point votre commentaire ; vous faites l'effort de me parler en français. Je suis touché par votre gentillesse. Merci beaucoup, aussi, pour les commentaires sur mes modestes vidéos. Je fais cela simplement, dans mon petit bureau, tout seul. Avec la joie d'échanger à toutes les semaines avec les fans. Merveilleux!
Magnifique et brillantissime... Merci infiniment pour cette explication de texte et pour la passion et la générosité dont vous faites preuve. Prenez bien soin de vous et vous adresse mes salutations de la Suisse.
Un grand merci !Très apprécié. Well, Tuomas vaut cela. Je ne suis jamais déçu de son écriture musicale et de ses mots. Seulement de ses thèmes, parfois !!! :-)))
Thx for leading me into this Video after the "Song" (You commented on my Commentar) I´ve maybe would missed it! I´ll edit my thoughts after watching the whole vid. Merci beaucoup! :)
Edit: Ok hands down, this was one of the most detailed analyse of a song I have ever seen! I love your passion to bring every detail on point! I´ve finally send it to my "better half"! ^-^ He studied theology and french and I´m exited to hear his side about this song! :>
I maybe say it again but: pls follow this road to "translate" everything - I know its a LOT of WORK, but it´s awesome. :> You are a great human beeing! Much love and respect for your work! :) ps. Sorry for my bad "German-English". :X
No problems! All of us, here, are trying to get the best possible understanding.
@@GuylainPrinceGreat timing, I'm done with your whole video right now. :D * and loved it *
Je rejoins les commentaires qui admirent votre érudition, une érudition utilisée avec intelligence pour nous offrir ces belles analyses.
Tuomas est un grand poète, être capable d'exprimer autant de belles choses en si peu de mots, c'est impressionnant. Deux mots résument cependant l'album en entier : l'amour inconditionnel
Vous n'êtes pas loin du puits qu'il nous montre, en effet !
merci pour cette analyse magistrale!
Est-ce que ce n'est pas une chanson ma-gni-fique. Je l'écoutais, hier encore, avec de bons écouteurs : quelle merveille!
@@GuylainPrince Si, magnifique. A ma première écoute de l'album, j'ai été un peu dubitatif. Mais en le réécoutant, je me suis aperçu que je devais juste sortir du carcan strictement "métal'! Cet album, et je parle des 2 CDs, est un album tellement travaillé et fourni que ça en devient de la "grande" musique ( quoi que cela veuille dire lol)!
Thank You! That was an excellent analyse.
You're welcome !
Hello Guylain Prince OFM,
Thank you for your wonderful explanation with humour and depth.
A pleasure to watch and listen to.
Kind regards,
Q p M
You are very welcome!
L'athée que je suis à apprécié cette analyse.
De rien, l'ami! Au plaisir de vous lire ailleurs sur le canal!
Je viens de tomber sur votre chaîne par hasard ! Quelle belle découverte ! Sincères salutations d'un fan de Nightwish résident en Normandie en France 😉
Excellent! Quel bonheur d'échanger avec des amis parlant français de partout! Sans oublier les francophiles (qui sont nombreux!).
i really like your deep analysis of this one.
What comes to my mind also looking at the greatest show on earth before this album and general knowledge is that this album is almost a guide or a call to do whats right.
To care for nature, to turn away from the "noise" to focus on whats out there, to care for nature to survive now as a species. But also with this one to survive in the long run to leave the Earth behind (like shoemaker), but also as in shakespears lines.. to leave behind the sun.. to find a home on another planet among the stars..
I see this as hope, but it also seems to me that tuomas isnt always that faithful in us (or maybe i am no), as we can hear in "the greatest show on earth" in the line "enter ratkind" that our time is about past on this planet. and Procession almost sounds like a funeral march for humanity. I look forward to what you think of that song.
I never gave that kind of attention to previous album of Nightwish. Now, I am eager to dig a bit deeper. I will suggest a way for me to enter Nightwish's world. Very soon.
Très belle analyse très belle réaction... je suis complétement athé mais complétement d'accord avec votre analyse! Merci beaucoup pour votre passion, et vive Nightwish!
L'analyse d'une chanson ne relève pas d'un objet de foi. Quand Tuomas admire le ciel en athée, en toute quiétude et bonne entente, je peux le regarder à ses côtés en tant que croyant. Tous les deux en contemplation!
I loved this analysis. But also, I just loved hearing you speak. I can only understand a little French. You see, I'm from Louisiana, and my parents both spoke French before they learned English. I heard it frequently in my home and especially when my parents spoke to older relatives. I can only understand a little when I hear French people speak because the accent is so different and because they speak so fast. Your language sounds a lot more like Cajun French, and it was nice to hear. I still needed the subtitles, but it makes me want to learn French better. (I know I'm off-topic, but I just really loved hearing the language.)
Thanks! I made my reaction in French until number 50, if I remember well. After, I had to switch to my faulty English. The help I had to write the subtitles is English... Then, it is very easy to make the translation in 7 other languages.
Fantastic analysis!
Thanks.
Greetings Monsieur, i completely agree with your analysis. Splendid that you find the link between song and connect those link in a simple way for me to understand. thanks
You are very welcome! To bring together meaning, science, poetry and metal music is .... mind blowing! I loved it!
Olá, padre. Saudações do Brasil. Gostaria de lhe perguntar se não causa uma certa tristeza que, pessoas como Tuomas e Floor, sejam ateus. Parabéns pelo vídeo, foi um dos melhores reactions que assisti sobre essa música.
-Superb- Stellar analysis. I don't understand French but thanks to your subtitles (closed captions) I was able to follow your video and it was worth it. Since you're fluent with English, too, perhaps you could do some analysis videos just in English?
This is what I decided to do since last summer: REaction videos in French and Analysis in English. All the songs of NW analyzed in the fall (14 songs), the analysis is in English. Rush and Epica : all the analysis are in English.
I think the "cut in little stars" could also refer to humans (and pretty much everything else) being composed of atoms that mostly originate from supernovas a.k.a. dying stars. When a human has died and you have his or her ashes in an urn, you literally have ashes of stars in that urn. Spreading the ashes to the moon would spread part of many stars cut into little parts over the moon surface, literally.
Yup! And I think that cremation, giving aches, has been metaphoricaly applied to the "cutting in litttle stars" of the poem. And it makes sense to me.
I must admit, you have a wonderful way of looking at things. Have a great life!
Well... it is a GREAT song! It makes me react accordingly!
I think "hope revived for a lifetime" may be in reference to the long gap after the time of the Apollo moon landings, a gap long enough to contain most of a lifetime. Shoemaker's ashes were launched in 1999. By then, it had already been such a long time that some hope was being lost. We're so close to returning, but it will be around 25 years past Shoemaker's arrival, and 55 years after the first manned landings. There's been a strong sense that humanity has been "splashing in the shallows" since the Apollo program, doing things close to earth. Only in the last decade has interest in going past low orbit surged again. This next lifetime will include Mars. I wonder whose ashes Mr Musk will bring there first.
I can definitely sense a message of "We're Coming, O Night. Slowly, painfully, barely within our grasp as we mature, but we will be out there." Myriad endings for humanity among the stars, not just the stars themselves.
(I keep editing this message, I keep thinking of more things!)
If we include the message of human expansion into the universe into this analysis, we get a very respectful fusion of two more common messages: one of a sort of practical need to expand; themes of disassembling planets for raw material, space as our birthright. Another of the spirituality of the eternal vastness of space, our insignificance in comparison, the pale blue dot. I don't see those messages combined very often.
Good insight! There are sentences that stays a bit "difficult to understand", if we don't know the context.
Merci par votre belle analyse!! And I apologize for my poor French. I'm just learning!! Muchas gracias por este video!!
You are welcome !
Bonjour cher frère, pour le verse 3 (18mn45) je crois qu'on pourrait également l'interpréter ainsi : Shoemaker avait pour spécialité les corps célestes et leur cratères. Peut être pouvons nous donc traduire par "nous attendons tous la réunion nocturne, une beauté qui en vaut la douleur, nous viendrons te rejoindre". II arrive fréquemment (â l'échelle de temps de l'univers ), que des astéroïdes, comètes et autres fusionnent, à grands coups d'impacts "douloureux " pour former un ensemble, planetoïde, planètes ' etc. Ce passage, pour moi, parle de la réunion, des astéroïdes bien sûr, mais surtout de l'humanité, réunion qui peut être douloureuse de part nos différences ou désaccords, mais qui en vaut la peine (la douleur). Et l'humanité répond "nous venons te rejoindre" en acceptant cette union commune. (Interprétation qui n'engage que moi).
Encore une fois heureux d'avoir découvert votre chaîne. ☺
Commentaire de première classe. L'impact causant la fusion, moi, avec une formation en physique, comment n'ai-je pas pensé à cela? Très stimulant de te lire.
Apologies if this is lengthy commentary, but... Early this morning, a friend of mine had sent me your analysis of the song, Music. It's now 5pm where I live, I've watched all the videos prior to this one, and will obviously continue until the most recent upload, and plan to make it to the premiere you've set. I'm leaving a comment here, (though initially I was going to wait) as something you'd mentioned in your Reaction to Shoemaker caught my interest. (I'll get to that in a moment).
A quick background: I was raised Pentecostal, and my fiance has converted to Catholicism in recent months. He has been trying to get me to convert, he prays the rosary every night and had begun to do it more than once in a day.
One day, around Christmas time, he bought me the tiniest statuette of St Francis of Assisi, because I'm quite an environmentalist who loves nature and animals. I cherish this little statuette in quite a different way than someone who is Catholic (at the moment, Anyway). I tend to carry it around with me, and have even gone so far as to have it blessed by a priest at the parish my fiance attends. I have gone from calling myself Pentecostal to simply saying I'm Protestant.
Going back to the point I mentioned I'd get to, you stated quite excitedly at the end of the Shoemaker Reaction that "Laudato Si" was the poem of St Francis. This struck me, because I have been praying for an obvious sign of where to go as far as "denomination", what to believe or where I need to be as far as doctrine and church is concerned. Like I said, I grew up Pentecostal. Often I am a very "In need of a burning bush!" type of person, because I overthink things quite a bit.
That said, who knew being a fan of Nightwish would lead me to your channel, and give me quite an unexpected answer, as well as incredibly interesting lyrical analysis of my favorite band, by such a warm and wonderful person such as yourself.
Stating all that simply to say thank you seems a little long winded, but I felt it was important to bring up.
♥️
That is extremely kind of you. And if that makes you feel at home, I know a lot of protestant Christians having a deep knowledge and connection with St. Francis. I personally know two Pentecosts, one Anglican, one Lutheran and few Mennonites. There is a proximity of the Christians from the Reform and the Poor of Assisi. You could be a Pentecost and enjoy this "spiritual friendship". As for having a sign and searching for an answer for yourself, be patient and be open. Surprises are everywhere. And often where we don't expect them. Take your time. United in prayer.
@@GuylainPrince I greatly appreciate your considerate reply! and Actually, I feel like I might study more within Catholicism. Perhaps even Franciscan (as was actually recently suggested to me by my fiance)
That's partially why I was immediately intrigued by the initial video I watched that my friend linked. Maybe it's the path I'm meant to stay on. I do indeed feel a connection to St. Francis of Assisi, and have decided to do more intense research than Maybe I had done prior.
Thank you again, very much! Words cannot express my gratitude (both to you and the Lord 🙏)
I'd also love to know if you have more content aside from these reactions/analysis, or some recommendations that I can read or study.
Have a beautiful day, and I look forward to seeing more of your content in the future!! ♥️
@@The_Pony I have a lot of good material, but it is in French. All of this is on my channel. But if you look around, Francis and Clare of Assisi, you will find a lot of things. Take your time. We have Eternity to quench our thirst for Goodness and Beauty.
I discovered the same connection of howling just couple of days ago, I was fascinated about it. It sure would be nice to know are these lyrical connections made deliberately or unconsciously by Tuomas. What a mastermind he is, my hero! 😊 I hope he makes lots of babies with Johanna, good DNA to spread to the world 🥰
That is hilarious !!!! I will say something that might sound surprising to you : it does not matter if it is concscient or not. Ha gave us a piece of art, made of lyrics/music. He put these songs in a certain order, creating a 'narrative thread' between them. This work is ours to receive, in our hearts and in our minds. To build sense of it. In a way, it is like a child. Through you, he enters the world. But one day, he's totally on his own. The text has a life by itself once it is published. Peace!
Guylain Prince That’s right. And Tuomas himself has allways said that the listener is allowed to interpret his lyrics however they choose and what makes them happy. He wants to spread happines and joy of music, and oh boy hasent he succeeded in that 😄
I recorded, tonight, my next [REACTION] video. I will launch it Monday. I made some comments on Finnish poetry. If you have the time, would you comment on what I said? Peace!
Maybe the wolf in the beginning of Music is also related to the works of Robin Hobb. Tuomas has said he admires her work. Especially the Farseer trilogy. The main character Fitz is traveling with a wolf. He has a strong band with the wolf. They can use each other’s senses. But I’m not sure about it.
Interesting! One thing is sure: his fascination for the wolf is long lasting one, many fans told me.
Bonjours ici en France il est 5heures 26 du matin et oui j'ais été percuter bousculer contre cette vidéo j'ai écouter et bien sûr regarder votre vidéo... ému ... J'ai été ému par votre émouvant discours sur cette ''magnifique'' grandiose et ... Encore une fois.. émouvante chanson... Nightwish a toujours écrit de merveilleuses chanson mais pas que.. la musique c'est aussi leur point fort ! Moi même j'ai écrit des chansons et poèmes... Moi même n'est en pas fait mieux ! En tout cas vous êtes une personne très touchante sur vos vidéo🤗
Eh bien,... merci! En fait, je suis quelqu'un qui - la plupart du temps - vit en silence. Aussi, quand je me mets à l'écoute de musique, je suis comme une éponge : je ressens tout, j'absorbe tout. C'est un peu pour cela que je ne choisi de n'écouter que des pièces choisies. Même chose pour des films. Ainsi je suis fait. Voilà pourquoi j'aime beaucoup voyager avec NW; music, paroles, signification... tout y est pour moi. Ce n'est pas LE band pour moi, mais parmi tout ceux qui sont encore actifs, il se se situe au premier ou deuxième rang. J'attends d'avoir terminé l'exploration de leur répertoire (il me reste les trois derniers avant Human. :||: Nature.) pour me prononcer. Ça ne saurait tarder.
J'aimerais vous faire lire mes poèmes et chanson pour avoir un"VERITABLE" avis je vous fait confiance 🤗 il faudrait juste que je repars mes deux ordis pour transférer mes données de ces derniers dans le troisième afin de vous lès envoyées ... pardonnez moi au grand dieu pardonnez mes fautes d'orthographe 😅
Vous préfériez que je vous écrits en anglais?
Rendors toi!
Je suis là
Tu es maintenant auprès de moi
Cesse ton chagrin
Dans mes bras tu ne crains rien!
Tes movais rêves sont partis au loin!
Rendors toi !
Ton minois
Me fait pleurer de joie!
Lorsque tu grandiras
Tu verras le monde autour de toi
Et te sourira !
Rendors toi!
Les dragons colorés s'envoleront
Et dans la nuit étoilée t'emeneront
Dans le paradis des dragons !
Rendors toi !
Tu y mèneras une nuit paisible
Oui c'est possible
Rien n'est impossible !
Rendors toi!
Tous tes movais rêves
De cette nuit s'achèvent!
Et dans mes mains
Je détiens ton destin de demain!
Rendors toi !
Maman et les dragons veillent sur toi !
I think the eternal earthrise refers to Shoemaker's restingplace. His ashes are in a crater near the southpole of the moon, so the earth is always on the horizon, like at the end of the video.
I really loved your analysis, thank you very much!
At least that was the image conjured in my mind.
And it makes a lot of sense. It learned that they 'crashes' the module in the crater named Shoemaker on the south pole. He has an almost constant view of the earth and a very large view of the sky. That is awesome!
I did not listen to the album since it came out and was waiting for reviewers to go with it. I was only up to "Noise" when I came across your channel and your "Shoemaker" reaction/analysis. Let me just express this before pointing out one important missing reference from the lyrics: I'm not going to listen to the rest of the album before your reactions. I'm going to explore it "with your guiding light" :) You've literally set a new bar in the song analysis genre. I'm now only looking up for people who do deep analysis of lyrics, background stories, musical compositions etc.
"You are home now, outward urge
As with every dreaming creature"
This is most possibly a reference to the novel "The Outward Urge". The "as with every dreaming creature" in the follow up verse may be a salute to the sci-fi dreamers/writers as much it is clearly stating the mankind. Tuomas is definitely a hard sci-fi reader (as I am) and he did reference to other writers from the hard sci-fi era before. "Gaia" in "Storytime" was a clear reference to Asimov (at least for me) where most people rightfully also took it as the Greek Goddess. Also "Pan" from this album had a hint/reference to Arthur Clarke's "2001".
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Outward_Urge
Also take a look to the poem "The Jolly Company" which is quoted in the novel (mentioned in the "Plot Summary" of the above Wikipedia page).
(Btw I think that Tuomas also references to many poems in his lyrics all over his songs. "Storytime" has a wonderful reference to a poem also related to the song's theme in the following verse of the "Gaia" verse: "Took a journey into a child-man's heart". Look up for the poem "My Heart Leaps Up" from William Wordsworth.)
The Jolly Company
The stars, a jolly company,
I envied, straying late and lonely;
And cried upon their revelry:
"O white companionship! You only
In love, in faith unbroken dwell,
Friends radiant and inseparable!"
Light-heart and glad they seemed to me
And merry comrades (EVEN SO
GOD OUT OF HEAVEN MAY LAUGH TO SEE
THE HAPPY CROWDS; AND NEVER KNOW
THAT IN HIS LONE OBSCURE DISTRESS
EACH WALKETH IN A WILDERNESS).
But I, remembering, pitied well
And loved them, who, with lonely light,
In empty infinite spaces dwell,
Disconsolate. For, all the night,
I heard the thin gnat-voices cry,
Star to faint star, across the sky.
www.poemist.com/rupert-brooke/jolly-company-the
Well, let me send you back the nice words. The very point of this series is to begin a dialogue with people like you. I am fully aware that Tuomas refers to other writers in his work, and this is a area where the help of people like you help me in return. You probably noticed that I always submit my thoughts as 'suggestions' : 'this is my impression, that is what I understand'. As I read your comments, I have a new understanding of the lyrics. You help me with the references, of other universes I am not familiar with, and maybe I can help you with the 'use' of the reference in that particular text. To be quoted here, by Tuomas, means something as well. I enjoyed reading your thoughts. Be aware that I will probably redo the video of Pan. I decided after Shoemaker to take the necessary time in shooting my videos. I felt 'rushed' through it, not taking the time to explain everything I found in the song. The end result is : while having the out-most respect for Tuomas and the band, I was not able to convey that in the presentation. Consider my present video on 'Pan' as 'second thoughts on Harvest' and 'rough copy' of what is to come. Come back, any time!
They have also Sagan song. Beautiful song about Carl Sagan.
Are you going to be doing other Nightwish in the near future?
Yes. Beginning in 3 weeks (second week of September 2020).
Thank you for this. This is exactly what a preacher should be doing. I've never been religious, but over the years I've come to appreciate that much of religious practice is traditions that humanity has baked into its social fabric for a reason. And the fabric is unravelling. And I can only blame incompetent preachers for that fact.
I wish my local preacher made me look upon him with reverance, warmth, respect, gratitude, and thankfulness. But they never have. I've never been religious, but I've been to church against my will a few times during the course of my life, and I've never been impressed. But I might not have been open to being impressed either. Perhaps I'm ladening them with all the burden, when some of it has rested with me as well. I guess I'll never know, unless I go willingly.
But I won't. I would not go to find religion, I would go to find hope that the community can be saved. And there's no hope for that any more, there's no point in seeing if the local preacher is up to the task. He can't win.
Well. I ahave been in the same situation as you, a few years back. Like you wrote, I had the priviledge to witness great leadership and pastoral judgement. It took me a while, but I found out. On the other hand, I am a very "special" Franciscan. I share with my fellow brothers the love for God and his knigdom, the simplicity of the Gospel, the cloeness to the poor. I am different because I had a very "scientific" mindset coupled with an artistitic interest/tast. From 13-24, I was a drummer. In my 30s, I played in a band as a bassman. My perspective is quite unique, to be frank. Not everybody understands what I do here; but most do. Peace to you! Enjoy your visit here; look for GREAT and meaninful music! This is all what this channel is all about. Peace!
Just wanna point you out Floor just commented on the official Shoemaker video and in case you didn't I know you would like to offer your like :)
Do you invite me to go and see her comment about Shoemaker? Is that the one:
ua-cam.com/video/Vd2EYheiurU/v-deo.html
@@GuylainPrince haha yes I missed this somehow , I just saw her having a text comment on the official video for the song and on an impulse I commented thinking you may want to throw a like at it. but she just typed what she says in this video. Thanks!
Thankyou !
Most welcome!
Surely Tuomas is a composer to weave the right input to a song, to make it spectacular!! great analyse, especially the Laudato Si part, i learned csomething there, , Tuomas is a atheist, meaning he do not belive in a certain god, neither denying that there could be a god, and i do think he belives in something still, but he is clearly more drawn to science and the universal power, then a specific god, he is beliving in Pan maybe..lol
I agree, though I'd like to try to add to your idea, if I could. You're certainly correct that Tuomas himself is an atheist, but with that being said; he is not immune to transcendental awe. Frankly, this fantastic sensation of almost "universal connectedness" shows up *quite* frequently in recent albums. Most notably in "greatest show on earth", but there are many, many other examples. This is a concept that has been around for well over 100 years. It is suspected that many of the "founding fathers" of the United States held a similar perspective. (Obviously in the 1700's, it was not politically safe to be an outspoken atheist, especially if that person had aspirations of power. So instead, many of these scientific and political leaders (such as Benjamin Franklin, would declare that they were "deists" (I believe). These people found the sublime, the transcendent, in nature. This relates back to "storytime", which almost quotes their perspective down to the very word:
"What's God if not the spark that started life
Smile of a stranger
Sweet music, starry skies
Wonder, mystery, wherever my road goes
Early wake-ups in a moving home
Scent of fresh-mown grass in the morning sun
Open theme park gates waiting for"
These are the simple pleasures in the secular world that Tuomas calls "God". The transcendant power that speaks to our souls and creates connection across cultures, across space, across time itself. It's kind of like the coy smile of the Mona Lisa, it pulls us in, it entices viewers, it leaves them entranced. Even after 517 years. That is a uniquely "human" connection on a core, elemental level.
Perhaps, if there is something that Tuomas believes in; one could describe that he believes in humanity, in nature, and in the communion between the two. It is definitely more based in science and the tactile world, but he seems to meditate quite frequently on Humanity and its' place within the world (and universe).
Someone wrote to me, asking why I would think that Tuomas believe in Pan...
And he was serious.
I might be mistaken, but here is what I think. Tuomas understands and appreciates the 'narratives' of the believers, but as the product of the human mind. Creativity and imagination at work to bring meaning in the world. When these beautiful stories are used for domination and control purposes, then, he becomes extremely critical. Tuomas has a spiritual vision, his work shows that very clearly, but spiritual here means: bringing meaning and inspiration. I don't know the man, but from what I can get of his works, great religious men as "being inspiring and meaningful" (Luther King, or Gandhi, or Jesus, for that matter), he would appreciate them. And he doesn't need to be Hindu to appreciate Ghandi. That is how I read the ending of Shoemaker. The two works (the poem Laudato Si and the pope's writing of the same name) are recognized by Tuomas as inspiring writing. Maybe he appreciates those persons as well and sees them as 'kindred spirits'. The remarkable thing, for me, is that he leaves us with an open space for everyone to enjoy. Regardless of their personal beliefs.
Now I agree with you wholly. I get the lyrics just about same. Only question is "Laudato Si" Do you think that Tuomas knows that it refers heavily to St Francis and Pope Francis and their writings. If so this song can easily be interpreted as a religious one. And this is really interesting, because the orchestration there has also a traditional church style (as you mentioned). Here in Finland we have a very famous phrase "Metsä on suomalaisen kirkko = Forest is a Finns Church" , meaning that the Nature has very deep spiritual or even religious meaning to us. Which at least I can agree totally. Thank you for your efforts here.
The writing of Pope Francis refers to nature as 'the greatest cathedral'. I prefer, to respect Tuomas; let's say a spiritual ending that leaves space for everyone to experience 'awe' in front of of the starry night. For the religious men, there is an added connection with an infinite Goodness behind all of this.
Guylain Prince Yes yes, but did he know the references? If so, some of us might think that he's more religious than he admits or he's just flirting with the religion.
I know very well St. Francis' poem; and I made one full year of radio programs on the Encyclical 'Laudato Si'. I think we can say that I know about them, yes. I agree on one point : I believe that Tuomas discovered a document from Christians/Catholicis and it came as a surprise to him, in a good way, and I think that it fed his vision in the creation process of this album. I don't think that he changed his mind about faith and religion, but I think he found new allies that he did not expect to have. The open conclusion of Shoemaker, from my point of view, is 'with our different faiths and points of view', let us all be in 'awe' in front of the cosmos, in front of nature. That is how far I would go; it's a matter of respect for his own beliefs. Does that make sense to you?
Guylain Prince It makes sense. So Tuomas is a litle bit a fransiscan (no offence here) as I am too in at least a bit. Peace!
@@pekkakarppinen1608 I still have to go through the last songs of the album. And to make a general appreciation. I cannot answer for Tuomas on that, but I can say, in all honesty, that his music find a very dear place in my Franciscan heart at this moment.
Bonjour ! Je pense qu'on peut réellement faire une analogie mythologique avec cette chanson. En effet, on peut voir en la lune la fille de la nuit (des étoiles) et de la terre. En effet, elle est née de la collision entre la proto planète Théia et de la Terre, soit la rencontre entre le monde des cieux et le monde terrestre pour grandir entre les deux. Ce qui en fait le parfait '' waypoint'' entre les deux mondes. Shoemaker, par sa passion et son histoire peut-être considéré du coup comme le premier disciple à vraiment comprendre le message de la Lune et à le transmettre aux terriens. Grâce à lui, le message, l'histoire est maintenant entendu, la Terre et les étoiles peuvent communier. Laudato si peut renvoyer à Shoemaker, comme à la Lune elle même.
Excellente pistes, merci !
Bonjour cher Guylain, bien salutations des Pays-Bas!
J'aime beaucoup votre analyses et la lecture attentive. And it's exactly this close reading which has led me to one question I'd like to submit to your kind attention here. I know I'm more than two years late to the party so to speak, but that's mere "earth time" ;)
Alors.. au travail! The thing that refused to leave my mind is this: suppose Tuomas' understanding of the cosmological underpinnings of "Shoemaker" turned out to be in error.. Would that change things, perception wise?
Because here's the thing I'd like you to consider. In the Earth-Moon system, the Moon is phase-locked with Earth. That is the reason why on Earth, we always see the same face of the Moon, right? So logically, Earth as viewed from the surface of the Moon would appear to be suspended in the lunar sky, motionless. To my - admittedly limited - understanding, that would mean: no "earthrise". If Shoemaker's remains had been in perpetual lunar orbit, then yes. Shoemaker however, buried on the Moon's surface as he is, would at no time witness any earthrise.
Since the thought of "eternal earthrise" is such a powerful and evocative one in this song, my first reaction was that this alternative understanding of earth in motionless suspension must have some kind of impact upon the meaning of Shoemaker. I could be wrong of course bcz "poetic license" and so on. That's why I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.
Chances are, this could be nothing and I'm simply mistaken in my understanding of the cosmology involved here. Could also be that others have pointed to this a million times without me knowing abt it. So let me end this rant by telling you, again, how much I've appreciated your journey through our Human Nature.
Cheers from Amsterdam! Et au revoir!
well, that is very interesting. Now, is the "earth rise" is the earth rising on the horizon of the moon, or the sun apprearing and disappearing on the surface of the earth. But as you say, the question is also : where is the info from sciences and where begins the poet. You got it right. There might be mistakes, but the general idea is very, very good.
@@GuylainPrince Yes, option nr1 would be the analogy that I figured Tuomas is getting at. Earth orbits the Sun, so there's our sunrise. By way of analogy: Moon adopts the role of the Earth as the orbiting object and Earth stars as the "Sun", so therefore: Earthrise. And yes, the general idea is what really counts in the end and it is truly magnificent as a poetic expression.
It just had me wondering how Tuomas would respond, since originally he wanted to become a scientist himself. Thank you for your kind answer. Merci bien! Cheers from Amsterdam.
And FLOOR IS A *QuintEssetia* of Metal !
Stay safe.
I agree!
Merci beaucoup pour cette très belle et intéressante analyse !
Je voulais juste ajouter, mais peut-être l'aviez vous remarqué, que la mélodie d'introduction est surement jouée sur un dulcimer à marteaux, ou du moins imité.
Cette mélodie symbolise peut-être l'appel des étoiles par le son onirique d'un dulcimer ( Stars calling with the sound of a dreamlike dulcimer) comme décrit dans les paroles.
Quelques dulcimers en action : ua-cam.com/video/PEmTKB2pvEs/v-deo.html et ua-cam.com/video/MJDuholrvok/v-deo.html
Oui, en fait, cette sonorité, Tuomas l'utilise à quelques reprises durant cet album. Si je me souviens bien, sur le côté B de l'album, lorsqu'il évoque la nuit et les aurores boréales, et dans la pièce 'Music'. Oui, évocation de l'espace et du cosmos. Merci pour la référence. J'apprécie au plus haut point.
@@GuylainPrinceOui effectivement, cette sonorité revient plusieurs fois.
C'est ce qu'il y a de tellement remarquable dans l'écriture de Tuomas, tout comme de grands auteurs littéraires, il crée un univers entier, complexe et complet et arrive à le faire tenir dans un album, chaque histoire/chanson/instrument/sonorité est d'une façon ou d'une autre intégré et forme un ensemble cohérent.
Très impressionnant et gratifiant pour qui se donne la peine de prendre le temps de bien écouter.
Merci encore pour vos réactions, la suite de l'album est formidable vous verrez.
Merci pour les bons mots. Cohérence est certainement l'un des premiers mots qui me vient à l'esprit quand je pense à lui. Cohérence de contenu des mots; cohérence dans la composition et la prosodie. Je ne l'ai pas pris en défaut une seule fois. Aussi, quand je constate quelque chose que je ne comprends pas de son travail, j'ai adopté le réflexe de penser : 'Qu'est-ce qu'il veut dire?". Ça vient tout juste de m'arriver avec 'How's the Heart?'. Ses choix de composition sont tous cohérents à ceux qui lisent attentivement. Bravo !
I dedicate this poem for Eugene Shoemaker, the only person to ever receive a lunar burial so far.
BE FREE!
The voice in my head said:
Follow me, because simplicity starts with silence
Then, Nightwish sang:
Silence is no longer an option neither is it a solution
There must be more beyond eternity
Emptiness does not cling with emptiness,
Love does not know less or more but only all.
From the earth womb to the moon grave
such a long path, such a long dream
You would have been an astronaut, but became a geologist,
You shape your life with the flow of your destiny.
Life can be so unpredictable!
I feel overwhelmed and I am confused,
I need answers, not questions.
Am I a rebel without a reason, or simply a dreamer?
The voice in my head said:
Reconciliation is possible between peace and war, good and evil
Follow your instinct, listen to the your inner child
Wrap yourself in the beauty of life,
go with the flow of a river of love,
Into music, poetry and all the wonders of the world
Gaze at the moon, understand the wind's planetary message
Witness the passage of the time, but don't fall asleep, stay awake!
Surrender your thinking to your spirit, fly light and high
to the highest level of evolution and clear up the dark clouds
that block your mind.
Be free!
Toronto, June 28/2020
Ana Sanka
Thanks you, dear Ana. It is beautiful. I was struck, the strongest of my life with that song. I understand every word you wrote! Hope it will reach Tuomas, sometime!
yes the song is respext the eugene shoemaker,and thats why we should be send ouer prays to the stars too.
This is one of my all times favourite! Peace!
Thank you so much for this in depth analysis. Since English is not my native language, I tend to miss the meaning of the words sometimes. I would like to share my thoughts on verse 3 too.
"We all wait the due night" may refer to (awaiting) death, when we, just like Shoemaker, can join the stars, the universe. "Beauty is worth the hurting". The hurting may refers to earthly, secular life. Tuomas acknowledges that life can be tedious for some, also in How's the Heart ("cut the rope", "dull the blade") and of course in the Poet and the Pendulum, where Tuomas declared himself dead. So, while life may be hard, it is worth while, because after life, we ascend to the stars (or heaven, if you will).
Bravo ! Very good insights. I will think about it. That could be another possible meaning to the whole song : starry night or sky being an equivalent of 'heaven', in a more religious understanding. What a great perspective!
@@GuylainPrince thanks for your reaction, I really appreciate it. I enjoy good discussions like these and you started it a great dialogue here
Well, my objective of bringing together lovers of great lyrics, music and meaning is up for a very good start.
Excellent video😍!
Have you heard/ made an audition to Nightwish's song : The poet and the pendulum? It is much older, but intense.
"oh, Christ, how I hate what I become"
"I have but two faces, one for the world, one for God: Save me!"
I see in Tuomas a deep religious man, with Christian foundations.
I will. This song is due in one month, in my journey through NW's reperoitoire. As we speak, I just published my analysis of The Kinslayer, next week "Dead Boy's Poem".
Right, I really don't know why I feel the need to start typing this when I'm just 6:42 into your second try. Maybe it has to do with my understanding, of lack of thereof, what music is. In essence music is sound. From the moment we were born, and as science tells us even before that, though most can't recall it, we are inundated with it. Only when we were told sounds translate to feeling something.
I understand your desire to 'understand' something, just, I wonder you go about it backward. I am one who likes music within the first 5 minutes if it is 'to my liking' or not. That is not to say I won't listen to it, but it does set up an expectation. To me that is instinctively defined by what I have learned in 62 years of my life (actually 12 days shy of 62).
When I say backward I really mean you already have a somewhat clear picture of what to expect. Your focus is on the text, not on the music. For instance, only when I heard the Romeo and Juliet part I knew the subject was Gene Shoemaker for a fact. Those who have not heard of him might still think it has to do with one who makes shoes, a cobbler.
I honestly don't know what I'm telling. Just that I needed to react, music is feeling first, text secondary.
Addendum
Basically you came to the same conclusion, I just listened to the whole album about 16 times. And still I discover new parts in the instrumental disk.
Maybe. I understand what you are telling me. I wrote about 40 songs, and it happened to me only once : music came before the words. I had something to say, the words (even a raw version of it) help me to build a musical environment that will convey the content of it. You made an instant connection with Romeo and Shoemaker. Well, I did not. The need for me was to let the lyrics dance in my heart, with or without the music. You have a poetic mind, together with the scientific reason. You are a very lucky man. I am rather slow with these things. Understanding, especially poetry, comes from giving a poem some space within myself. Thanks for your comment. I appreciate it !
@@GuylainPrince Maybe some backstory of me might help somewhat. I was raised in a Catholic environment, my grandmother received weekly visits, mostly on weekend days, from a Franciscan friar Innocentius in Tilburg (NL). From him I learned to look, as he called it, 'beyond the words' and feel what is said. Religious I'm not, in the sense of a named religion. I simply couldn't fathom why people believe in ghosts, the natural order is death. One dies sooner, others later. What we do, and the way we act, makes the world a better place. I understand why religion was necessary, explaining what you can't understand is translated into stories. A bit like, if you eat pig meat, you have a greater chance of death. Thus, don't eat the pig.
In today's world religion is maybe the greatest threat for our species. Wars have started over who is 'right' or 'wrong'. I can't understand people's motivation to tell 'sorry, the globe theory is wrong, the earth is flat'. It is the confusing stance of all religions, on the one hand accepting medical advances but using the same thing to hinder progress. A pope telling the masses it is 'forbidden' to use a condom should be indicted for murder.
I won't say mankind is doomed, just that chances of survival get less sure by the minute. Some 2020 years ago there was a hippy preaching, it is said he had a following. In those days there was no mass communication, we told stories. Today's stories tell a harder tale, one that either is going haunt us till eternity or save us from ourselves.
Sorry, didn't mean to fly off the handle, at the same time I stand by what I said. I typed it, and didn't make a copy. You can delete If you want.
Delete it ?!? Why would I delete when you speak your mind? We all have a history; that makes us who we are. We've been hurt in our past; and we will be. That also is part of life. Trying to make sense of what happens to us is essential. No, don't worry, I have heard and seen much worst. I worked in maximum-security prisons, among the people of all conditions. To listen attentively to one's story makes sense, completely. Whatever it might be. Peace.
This analysis was just wonderful. And I am not religious myself - from what I know of Tuomas, I suspect my world view aligns well with his. But I do appreciate the religiosity of people like you - people that express their religiosity in such passion and love for the natural world. That is something that you share with Tuomas, I think. He is a formidable poet and composer.
It may not be something to analyse as it is primarily an instrumental piece, but the second cd of this album is beautiful. It's a half an hour long classical piece composed by Tuomas, called "All The Works Of Nature Which Adorn The World". It is stunningly beautiful. And a fan made a video for it, which does it justice - and I hear Tuomas has seen it, and agrees with me on that.
So perhaps for your private enjoyment, if you haven't seen it already, here's the link:
ua-cam.com/video/RnOdQ5WNZJk/v-deo.html
I bet you'll love it as much as I do. 😊
Did you look at my review of the "side B" of Human Nature! Yes! This is the very first video I made on Nightwish. Ever! :-) And I will watch the video you suggest. As soon as possible!
@@GuylainPrince Oh, I missed! I'll make sure to watch it. Thank you!
I believe there were a whale's sounds in the first song, not a wolf's howling.
Mmmm.... You will have to work a bi more to convince me on this one. :-)
Poesis est mensura humanitatis..
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