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Side mount garage door openers have several advantages over overhead mount openers:
1. More Ceiling Space: Side mount garage door openers are mounted on the wall beside the garage door, which frees up the ceiling space above the garage door. This is particularly useful for garages with limited overhead space or for people who want to use the space above their garage for storage.
2. Easy Installation: Side mount garage door openers are easier to install than overhead mount openers. With an overhead mount opener, you need to install a ceiling bracket and then mount the opener to the ceiling. With a side mount opener, you only need to mount the opener to the wall.
3. Quiet Operation: Side mount garage door openers operate much more quietly than overhead mount openers. The motor of a side mount opener is typically located beside the garage door, which reduces the amount of noise that is transmitted through the ceiling and into the house.
4. Better Security: Side mount garage door openers offer better security than overhead mount openers. The motor of a side mount opener is located inside the garage, which makes it more difficult for burglars to tamper with or disable the opener.
5. Greater Compatibility: Side mount garage door openers are compatible with a wider range of garage door types and sizes than overhead mount openers. This is because the side mount opener is attached to the wall beside the door, rather than to the ceiling above the door.
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I like the side mounts. But overhead is not garbage. If a customer wants to pay the up charge I would be glad to use them.
Exactly. And it all works the damn same. Dude acting like all us overhead owners are scum bags or something. Dudes a douche canoe
Eventually side mounts will be cheaper and the only option
@@TT-ik3kd you can’t use a jack shaft opener on all doors it’s not a catch all
I would prefer the side open. The overhead is a bunch of garbage.
How do over mounted ones cost more? I would think the cost less.
I had this choice on my house. There is a huge price difference! I went with the over head. Plus, their simple. If it breaks, I can fix it.
Or replace it for cheap. Liftmaster is a pain to troubleshoot and maintenance
Affordable and easier maintenance and repairs, sounds like a winner to me.
The side mount gives no advantage. You still have door tracks. You can add the locks to any LyftMaster.
@@jameskehn8609 the door came with just one slide lock on it. I added a second one on the opposite side just for a little extra security.
@@jameskehn8609 You should increase your knowledge. They are very quiet. They give clearance in hobby garages that have car hoist in them. Etc.
Overhead garage door openers are not garbage! They come with the bonus of additional lighting, which your garage appears to be lacking.
Side mount openers come with an extra light to mount where the normal opener would go
@@cobeyfromm4257 Its not better than the middle mount light.
You still have the rails for the door anyways so I don't really see a lot of advantage in the side openers.
@@ExMeroMotu9 they come with wirelessly controlled lights that plug into the ceiling where the overhead unit would have been plugged in.
😂
Absolutely nothing wrong with overhead mount, especially in colder climates when you have a wide door. Frigid Temps can flex the door inwards and let cold air in. The overhead mount can help prevent that from happening
Not anymore than the ones shown
This is exactly right. This winter was brutal here, our shop has a manual 14ft shop door(for RV) and a 10ft over headmount door. AND THE 14FT door would push in like 1.5in blasting cold air in, i though the seals were bad but now that its warm the door is sealed tight.
@@randybobandy9828 keyword there is manual… I’ve been in plenty of shops and mills in the upper Midwest with roll up doors and wall mounted openers that don’t have that problem
That is nonsense.
@larrywilliams3858 not nonsense here in manitoba. Crazy how much they flex in when it's -40 Celsius with a heated garage/shop.
That “garbage” seems to be more reliable than the wall mount
He click baiting by calling them garbage and it worked.
Yup
Had to use the side mounts at my last house. Hated them because I always had problems with them. The garage door companu that installed them originally, said he stopped selling them because of too many call backs.
As the springs age, door gets heavier and heavier, most people don't realize there's a problem until opener smokes. Only time I see problems is when door was never installed properly to begin with.
Side mounts = more issues. Cable tensioners, auto locks, detached lights, etc..more stuff to break.
Amen boss!!! Word thru liftmaster grapevine 8500w getting replaced gonna be the same thing with no cable tensioner
@@justinhuff8024 problem with jackshafts is the motor pulls the tube which always has problems with those cable tensioners. Lack of lubrication, alignment, etc will set it off. Your door has to be constantly serviced and dialed in 100% with no room for error. When the traditional motor pulls the door, the cables just follow it. Which makes much More sense and less callbacks.
I have 4 side mounts for years. Never had a single issue.
@@superdave492 your sample size of four is statistically irrelevant. They have more problems, period.
@@littlejackalo5326 I have used these on 3 shop doors 12' wide x 14' tall for years and one on my house garage door without the first issue.
Yea, double the cost on both retail pricing, and maintenance, this is truly amazing content.
Old is stronger
I have 3 of the side motors from a job site. Some nice lady just said take them or I’m throwing them out. Okay 😂
What extra maintenance is involved?
Overheads cost less and work just aswell. Side mounts cost more and are more likely to break
Overhead is much noisier, and ties up space that is needed in certain applications.
@@larrywilliams3858 sure they are noisey if you use liftmaster... the linear that is in this video is very quiet... if i do use a jackshaft unit ( side mount ) i wouldnt use lifymaster thats for sure
@@larrywilliams3858 If you get a DC over an AC unit they're as quiet as a jackshaft opener. Liftmaster 81600 models are much cheaper and practically silent.
I had a side mount. It was horrible. Severely underpowered.
Your door was likely not counterbalanced by the spring correctly…
Side mount openers are WAY more powerful and durable then overhead units, 30 years doing garage doors, I have three of these at my house and wouldn’t do anything else, they are expensive tho
Garage door technician here. The classic overhead garage door opener has more benefits than the side mount although the side mounts do have some benefits the one drawback of the side mount operator is it does not push the door closed causing a lesser seal than what the traditional opener May provide
I own 2 of these side mounted garage door openers. One is 15 years old, the other is 5 years old.
Never a problem with either one. The first one is on a 16ft wide door on a garage with a cathedral ceiling.(I didn’t want a bar hanging in mid air and in the way.) the other is on a garage where the track needs to hug the roof so it will clear the side door of the house.
They both operate smooth and quiet. I especially like the automatic lock so no one can fish the release rope with a coat hanger to gain access to my garage or house.
If you work on your car often, side mounts let you install a car lift with more height clearance.
I have an overhead one, and you can have the security bolts installed as an aftermarket feature
Or just slide in a screwdriver...
You'll accept what you can afford. Overhead is not garbage. Been working great for years.
If you're having a house built this dude will try to upsell you on everything.
I sell liftmaster openers and even the factory recommends you use the drawbar openers. Jackshaft openers need more service and rely on you having your doors serviced frequently. They are used in instances of low headroom, space above the door.
They should be used in instances of high lift. Unless your low headroom has the shaft at the back of the track or below the horizontal track (neither of which are common on residential, as is high lift), a trolley operator will work fine.
@@alfhwuqd yeah, i installed them for 20 years before i started selling them
@@kurtz260 those 8500's are big piles of steamy dookie.
@@alfhwuqd lol. Heard lots of people having trouble, but honestly ive never had one come back. But again, i only sell them in extreme low headroom or vertical lift applications. So maybe 50 a year
Never on a low head room
those do not meet liftmaster specifications. the doors are on 12" radius
I like the overhead mount because it applies pressure when shut.
So do the side mounts. Even without the deadbolt feature the side mount holds the door down to the floor and it doesn’t budge. I tried to lift mine and it was solid as a rock. The deadbolt is just secondary security.
@@mauricecooper9016 you are incorrect.
It stops the spring from lifting the door, but the door can ve lifted without that deadbolt if you lift hard enough.
@@VulgrDisplay i have a chamberlain side mount opener and i tried really really hard to open the door and i couldnt get it to budge. However the overhead one that i replaced opened with little effort. 🤷🏾♂️
@@mauricecooper9016 People who break into a house through the garage don't care about doing damage to a door to get it open. They will jam in a big pry bar to lift it up a bit so they can use a floor jack to force their way in. It happened to a neighbor. He was away on vacation. The burglar probably knew he would be gone. Don't tell people about any exciting places you may be going.
@@mauricecooper9016 They don't apply enough pressure, especially for areas with a lot of rain/snow. And if it is applying a lot of pressure, that unit is going to break within 5 years of installation because it is applying too much downward pressure.
I went with the side-mount because I could install it myself. Little did I know when I ordered it that my builder had installed a cheapo torsion bar and I had to pay a local installer to upgrade to the old coiled spring torsion bar. Totally worth it.
Yup you had a torque master
@@noahholt482 That was it! Thank you! It was so long ago that I couldn't remember the name.
@@noahholt482 you misspelled ideal ez wind
Not cheap though. It was new tech then. Now it's cheaper to convert to torsion. More cycles.
Nothing worse than those awful Torque Master spring assemblies.
Chamberlain is the parent company that made Liftmaster, Craftsman and others. They would make the same opener with your Company name as if you were the manufactor( just need to order up a bunch to justify the cost and extra insurance).
If you like dealing with garage door installers every few years get a side mount garage door opener. If you like brain dead reliability get the overhead.
Side mounts tend to have waay more problems with the cables falling off, but hey, they look cool right
Nothing wrong with overhead openers. Especially since the door rails are also overhead!
I do these everyday the side mounts limits are proned to mess up when the weather changes from hot to cold and the boards inside the side mounts tend to go bad alot more than the standard rail opener
i’m still looking for the garbage…
Love my side mount. Built my house told them no overhead opener. Called a highly recommended company. Came out and measured. Made custom tracks. Now the garage door opens about 6” from the ceiling really opens the place up
My garage door opener has a camera which is linked to my phone so if I ever doubt if I left garage door open I can check and open/close it while monitoring the opening. Works great for drop offs
The side mount is almost double the price of the overhead
You have to look at as you are going to spend the lower cost anyway. Determine if the additional quality is worth the additional price
@@donaldclinton1975 side mount looks nice and certain applications but overhead is just fine I installed them for a living they both work just fine
@@jeremyiaciofano7207 Installing and living with them are two different things. I won't have another center mount
@@donaldclinton1975 if you have a room above it sidemount is better cuz it's quieter you could also get belt drive which is quiet also but the garage door itself will still make noise
@@jeremyiaciofano7207 many things are worth paying up for. You have to spend the money for the cheap one anyway. Especially if someone is paying for the labor to install, the cost of hardware becomes a smaller percentage. I just like the wide open ceiling and think the couple hundred up front is worth the long term improvement.
These are great openers and yes they have lights also. Only thing is you got to rewire everything because builders run the wire and outlet to drop out the ceiling. And they're 3 times the price
Garage doors are the most dangerous thing apart a house. Garage door accidents are responsible for 20,000 to 30,000 injuries every year.
I've had overhead mount openers for decades with no problems. The side mounts are more expensive
Major price difference.
Liftmaster is starting to cut down on there more affordable “cheaper” models
I say starting but they have been doing it for years now
As someone that actually knows garage doors, the traditional ones tend to be more reliable. But if you get a side mount, do the Genie or the overhead door. The liftmaster and chamberlain ones aren't that great
Nobody that "knows garage doors" would every recommend a genie anything. Most commercial warehouses won't even sell that trash.
@@gregoryhall2967 lmfao amen dude anyone sporting genie is just wrong they fell way from grace when they stopped making those screw drives way back when
Got a chamberlain belt drive thats stupid quiet and works awesome. Anytime someone hears it for the first time they comment how quiet it is....Old genie one broke.
The side mounts are quieter and look nicer. However in our climate, -40' in the winter, the doors bow inward in the cold. Without the overhead opener pushing the center top of the door closed, it doesn't seal against the weatherstripping, and causes ice buildup that eventually interfers with door operation.
I'm a carpenter, and have tried fixing this issue on over a dozen homes in our area with limited success. The door companies have mostly switched back.
Side mounts are nice, but the over head are better for retro-fitting.
I install garage doors and have installed a few of these. Do not like them had to go back alot just to maintenance
Callbacks after callbacks lol your door has to be dialed in 110% if you have a jackshaft … even if Liftmaster has been out for the last 15 years with a jackshaft. I still don’t think they got it right
@1agaragedoorssacramento your right everything has to be 💯 correct. The maintenance was just spraying and lubing the ones I hung Because of dry wall sanding and painting in new housea
With that standard radius tracking, have fun with cables jumping drums.
My house has an overhead garage door opener. It’s 30+ years old and works fine.
We’ve got the old roof mounted garage door opener at our place which was in when we bought the place that setup so so much cleaner but I’d never call the roof mounted style garbage. Like everything else both systems have their pros and cons.
Overhead are cheaper to purchase and install. Also less issues with them
Go one step further, if you've got the budget: a door with tracks flush to the ceiling. Reclaim that space, especially if you manipulate long lumber or pipe in your garage.
I've been in overhead garage door guy for 25 years I specialize in high speed doors industrial commercial set I have done my fair share of residential. Only thing I don't like about the side mount is that if the door's not balanced properly the gear shear really easily You have to have your door properly maintained and balanced in order to avoid The gears ripping themselves apart. I know that they're designed to do that as a failsafe but I do like the look and the operation. These openers are a bit more secure than a traditional drawbar opener for the simple fact that you can't stick a coat hanger up through the top of the door and yank on the emergency release . I would definitely go with the side mount they're very quiet but just maintain your door properly and you won't have any issues
They're not as reliable as trolley motors. If you have follow the pitch track or hi lifted track they are great. Run your door by hand and lube at least once a year.
I just built a new garage and bought a pair of old school chain drive openers. They're noisy, functional, have lights that come on when they open, and they were half the cost of the side mounts so thats a win. That buzzy clickety-clackety hum of the chain drive is the sound of savings!....and they're on Wi-Fi so I can open them from anywhere in the world!
Side mount looks over complicated with more to go wrong, overhead is proven over many decades and is easy to diagnose and fix problems.
What’s more important is the back casing. The 2x4s tacked on outside your Sheetrock is there because the installer didn’t use a skill saw to rip the jam and mount the door directly to the king studs. If you’re going to use a side mount opener then go the little extra for the lift kit and have the door go all the way up the ceiling.
I like overhead, I love that loud ass buzzing that resonates through my whole house when they open.
Side mount ALL day. I've ruined multiple garage doors from them being froze to the ground and pulling from center bends them. Side mounts lift from the side where it's much stronger. Way more secure, cleaner look, much quieter, more ceiling storage. I've had one for 5 years in Minnesota with zero problems. Has worked every time unlike my overheads.
Its crazy how many high end home builders still use the old chain drive openers.
Overhead isn’t garbage and you still have the tracks even with the wall mount, so you’re only cleaning up the ceiling area a little bit. Eliminate the tracks with a wall mount and you’ll have my attention.
Yeah, but the overhead one is basically another ceiling light in your garage🤷♂️
The real old ones are my favorite with the springs on the side so easy to change and not as expensive 👍🏼
I have installed and serviced hundreds, and in my experience, overhead openers cause fewer problems. Service/repair calls for "side mounts" outnumber overheads by about 3:1.
Overhead isn’t garbage. Not only do they work wonders on opening doors, they can also make a great space for hanging washing on. (I’ve seen my dad do it! Dad, door mechanism and washing survived!)
Looks like side mounts are nearly double the price.
Mine has that too, but it’s all overhead, and mine looks more beefy of a lock than yours
I do like them on the sides, opens up a little more space on the ceiling for storage. I have storage lifts above each door now that the old style openers are gone
And don’t forget about the extra cost of those openers because when building a new home there are NEVER any cost overruns so it should be affordable
Only issue with the side mounts is that they are sensitive as hell and can stop the door prematurely, often. I prefer the rail style.
You can only use jackshaft openers with torsion springs. This is not what a lot of people have. Short of doing a conversion to ez-set or standard torsion, these can’t be used. You also run into issues of low headroom. LHR and jackshaft openers require pusher springs to work and will usually void an openers warranty because they’re not recommended to use with LHR.
They are called jackshaft operators and they are better than the trolley operator that is mounted to the ceiling.
It also eliminates the possibility of the chain bracket being ripped from the top panel.
Best investment I ever did for my garage. They are much better than the old way of overhead mounts. Insulated doors are a bonus too.
I always found the overhead mount stupid, especially since you sometimes transport stuff on the roof of the car, the center overhead mount gets in the way with that.
I'll put it on my list for when I inherit the McDuck fortune 😂
Glad i saw this because I built ceiling storage in the garage and now there is no room for a regular garage door opener. 😂
I'm a garage door guy. If a customer requests to have a sidemount installed to replace their trolley opener, I ask why and try to talk them out of it. If it's a new install with high lift, full vertical or follow the pitch track, a sidemount is needed and works great. With standard radius track, they have a tendency to throw a cable. The door needs to work great and be lubed regularly with a sidemount with 12" or 15" track. I prefer Genies over the Liftmaster. I've installed lots of both brands and have had way too many issues with Liftmaster side mounts.
My home was built in 1997 still has the original overhead garage door opener. Zero issues. So I would go with an overhead.
I received a Genie side mount for fathers day.
Something over $400 on Amazon. Genie had the better reviews.
Installed it myself. It’s creepy quiet.
The best feature is the bluetooth LED light.
I positioned it in line with my drivers side mirror on the back wall of the garage. So I can back into a shadowed garage. It just plugs it in. No control wire to run.
Jack shafts are twice the money, twice the noise, and twice the trouble. That 801 operator you show is the most trouble free op we install. Salesmen on commission love them. Someone else has to fix them. I could be wrong though, we've only been doing this for 60 years.
My Husband installed those for 10 years. He agrees that if you have the extra cash, side mount is the way to go.😎☺️
That's the first side mount I've ever seen. Though the overhead is tried and true, the side mount looks much nicer!
I have an overhead Craftsman still working after 30 years. My Dad has side mounts and his are working well. I think they are both better than lifting the door by hand when I was a kid.
I’m a garage tech, overhead is fine unless you have plans it intrudes on. Side mounts are superior but for double the price.
Make sure to tell your electrician you're doing that in the build. Otherwise the outlet will be in the wrong place.
Both have the same safety features, the only difference is where they're placed relative to the garage door
Side mount looks a lot more sturdy and less janky too.
I did not know there was a side mount opener. If I ever get the chance to get my garage/workshop, definitely will go with them.
I hear you Tom... but before you go that route research them because they are expensive and problematic. If (when) a sidemount system needs to be serviced you will need to call a professional.
The overhead mount lifts are pretty much bulletproof and can be fixed or replaced by any homeowner with some simple hand tools. 👍🏽
Side mounts are nice but come with more potential maintenance issues, higher initial costs, and proprietary replacement costs.
Demand premium hardware, pay premium prices.
The old style works fine.
Traditional $150. Side mount $500. If you have 3 bays that’s a big difference in cost.
Sidemount openers are not always the best option on standard lift track like most residential garages have. Trolley is usually a better option for reliability.
I like the old ones. Cheaper. Less parts to break. Easy to fix. Cheap to fix. And easier to find parts if you need.
Side mounts don't last nearly as long as ceiling mount openers. Only time I roccomend them is when they are necessary
Don't accept a single spring for that door either. F those side mounts....cost way more, not as reliable.
The side mounted liftmasters is called a jackshaft opener. The automatic deadbolt is a game changer.
Overhead door makes the BEST rail mount openers. Liftmaster rail mounted openers are honestly slightly worse for quite a bit more. I fix garage doors 50+ hours a week.
so why didnt you say genie was best? since ohd just puts a different shell on their gear?
Wow! that leaves so much room for activities
Side mounts look cleaner and obviously take up less space. BUT down the middle openers are better hands down.
it’s just a garage I don’t think it’s worth it because I don’t even see a benefit
Jackshaft openers are only a few hundred more in price. I enjoy not having the opener hanging from the ceiling! And it comes with a light you plug in where your old opener was and it comes on with the door operation.
I would add a wall mount in a bay where a lift is going, but no need for most people due to the cost. If your traditional ceiling mount unit is under a bedroom you can easily swap out with a belt drive system and have virtually no vibration or noise.
Usually cost effects these types of questions not where the motors are located.
Oh excellent advice; while on that note… I should ask for the self-serve car wash too and a 24/7 dry cleaners station and don’t forget……a private airport in the backyard as well 😑🙃
Rolla doors are even better. Only requires the vertical tracks. No overhead tracks at all. And there is a light that's part of motor housing.
Side tracks aren’t new they’ve been around for a long time. You can also get a lock like that on an overhead
I have side mounts on my garage door. I will never go without ever again!!
I’m a garage door technician, the only thing to be concerned about those is they have a higher chance of throwing a cable…
side mount looks pretty slick, but my overhead has been fine for 30 years.
I have the very same side mount in video. I had it operational for a bout 6 months . Always beeping at me. Half the time wouldn’t work. Needless to say two years later I am opening my garage door by hand