ObGyn Reviews: Missed Ectopic Pregnancy Almost Killed Her (With
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- Опубліковано 14 лис 2021
- Today we're discussing the missed ectopic pregnancy diagnosis Abelina Sabrina suffered through. Thank you to Sabrina for sharing her story and giving me permission to discuss it. Stick around until the end for a chat with her to see how she's doing.
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I’m so grateful we could talk about this, I learned so much! Thank you ❤️
Thanks for sharing your story and letting me use your footage. Wishing you nothing but healing & happiness, Sabrina.
Thankyou for sharing
Thank you for your bravery, Sabrina. You are helping people more than you know.
Abelina I was crying. I’m so sorry you went through that.
You’re a lovely person! So glad you’re ok now.
This is crazy, because even as a medical student, we’re taught an ectopic pregnancy is a MUST NOT MISS diagnosis for unilateral pain in the left or right lower quadrants (or just in the lower abdominal area). ESPECIALLY if you know that the patient has had a positive pregnancy test. The fact that no one considered this diagnosis after multiple visits is horrifying.
Agreed. I appreciate MDJ being careful and not making bold statements, but this was malpractice, there's no way to pretend it's not.
Yes I'm so angry for her. I've been pregnant 3 times and unfortunately have had 2 miscarriages. In all 3 pregnancies, I had bleeding and pain on one side and in all pregnancies I had at least one ultrasound to make sure it was not ectopic. This is standard care and she should have been listened to.
Yes. I am a doctor from India and our professors drilled it into our heads। Even in cases likely to be appendicitis, if the patient is a woman always rule out ectopic. I encountered this horror a few times in my medical career. One of the diagnosed ectopics who came for consult with my professor started bleeding mid consult, and within 5 minutes she went totally pale, bloodless। Thank god we could save her.
A lot of medical practitioners in the US don't understand that they keep learning after graduation
I feel like this shouldn't be surprising to me but it is. The number of times I've been to the doctor and urgent care with those exact complaints and told just to take some Tylenol... I feel so lucky that it's never been an ectopic pregnancy but it's honestly so scary to think that next time it could be and I could just be sent home again.
God this breaks my heart. My ex was like this. I got pregnant, I wanted to keep it, but he tried talking me out of it, his parents tried to, and when I one day got a miscarriage. He told me "I'm glad you lost the baby." I have never dumped anyone so fast. Those words still stick with me, 6 years later.
I am so sorry he said that to you. Hope you are doing better now.
What a horrible person he was. I'm glad you're out of there
I'm so sorry that happened to you. You didn't deserve that. I'm so glad you got out.
I'm sorry for the loss of your baby, and glad you're no longer with that ex.
Of course he's going to be thinking about his own best interest, and of course you should always have a choice whether to abort. Trouble is, men are people too, why should he have to be the only one forced into responsibility for the child that he never agreed to in the first place? Hopefully you've learned a lesson from this, and now have the "what if pregnancy happens" discussion BEFORE it's to late.
I had to carry my deceased baby for a month knowing she had passed (after having to take a sheet to the ultrasound tech that clearly said “fetal demise?” written on it) while the medical system tried to fit me in for a D&C. I ended up hemorrhaging at midnight at 16 weeks while still waiting…and delivered on the hospital bathroom floor after labouring in the ER for hours…and I still needed a D&C the next day.
The sh*t us women have to go through with our care is unreal.
I'm so sorry. I know my words aren't even close to being enough to help the pain you must be going through, but I believe your baby is at peace and loves you endlessly. Despite the horror you experienced, there will always be people who will fight for you and love you. It's incredibly brave to speak up about this and I thank you for that. I know we can make a difference for ourselves and fellow women if we keep using our voices. I wish you all the best.
@@meowmew444 thank you for your kind words 💜💜💜
I'm so so sorry. That sounds horrendous and nobody deserves that.
this is one of the worst things i have ever read.. i am so so sorry
That is horrifying! I'm so sorry!
My friend almost died from this. She didn't know she was pregnant, went to ER with intense stomach pain and they just kept her waiting for hours and finally got her an ultrasound. Then they saw she was bleeding out internally and she immediately went to surgery. The surgeon was furious because she could've been un-recoverable in 30 more min. It's absurd how women's pain is dismissed.
Yeah, they called ovarian infection as a reason when it's in the same area as the life threatening intestinal pain
I just went through this 3 days ago, I was screaming in the waiting room and the nurse was looking at me like I was crazy. The security in the hospital kept looking at me and kept their door open to make sure that I was okay, they cared more than the hospital staff. I almost died and I lost half the blood in my entire body. I’m so grateful to be alive today.
@@user-nq7lr8fy8p That's terrible! Shame on that hospital, I'm so sorry you went through that. Whoever didn't admit you immediately needs to be fired, you could have died.
@@julianajuju4917 thank you, I did write a review on the hospital and mentioned that but I was in so much pain that I never read her name. The only thing I remember was that she was blonde and pregnant, and I just couldn’t believe that she had a child inside of her while mine was dying inside, and she just acted so heartless. She slammed the door shut and went in another room so that she couldn’t hear me screaming.
A lot of people absolutely refuse to acknowledge how life-threatening a pregnancy can be
Very important info to combat "Abortions are dangerous". Pregnancies are more dangerous. One of the several reasons I would never want to have a bio child. I'm not going through something so potentially fatal without a serious desire for a bio child. But there are people who'd tell me I'm "overly fearful". No, I don't panick about getting pregnant or anything. I just don't like the odds of dying vs. surviving in childbirth.
@@rebeccaconlon9743camelopardalis8506 said nothing that is untrue or misinformation.
@@camelopardalis84I totally agree with this, my mom had a very smooth pregnancy (for all I know) with somewhat concerning cravings, but had a rough labor. A day and a half giving birth to me. Naturally I fell asleep a few minutes later, but it was uninterrupted for three days. My mom tells me that it’s unlikely for me to have the same labouring experience since I have such a different body, but it still scares me. I don’t plan on having a bio child
Miscarriage after the 6th week too.
@@camelopardalis84 early abortions are not dangerous at all. Actually the risk of dental procedures or the risk of having your colon examined is higher.
One of my aunts had an ectopic pregnancy in the early 1950’s, and they removed her Fallopian tube. Her mother-in-law, an older woman from Slovakia, said, “Well, that’s it, you will either have all boys or all girls!”
My aunt went on to have four of each!
How funny! That must be an old folk belief. One ovary for boys, the other for girls…
Eight kids? Jeez that is impressive, go mama!
@@Me-iq4se apparently the mother in law doesn’t know that it’s men who determine the gender not the woman lol
Running on one cylinder here too. It's interesting to see people not realising that the boomer era was filled with illiterate women.
@@rebeccaconlon9743 FR. My late mother told me she thought kidneys were in the knees.
I'm so horrified by how the medical professionals AND her boyfriend treated her. I can't believe how he treated her about the termination and about how ignored she was by the medical professionals. I really hope she's doing better now
All of this is why we sue doctors. Not to get money, but to encourage doctors to give a damn and be thorough.
I had a miscarriage in June and my dr right out the gate “this may be an ectopic pregnancy, you will be here AT LEAST once a week for blood tests and ultrasounds”. It seemed like such a pain in my ass and I just wanted her to give me answers. I am going to call my OB/GYN after this just to leave a message to tell her I’m so grateful for giving a damn. Thank you Sabrina for your VERY important story.
Im not even going to finish this video right now. I need to call my OB. Lol
@@rachelfrancis1990 I hope you did it. I had an ectopic in 2009, in college. I'm so grateful I decided to drive out of state for better care because they immediately sent me to the ER when they couldn't find anything. They said I miscarried at the ER but I needed to take a follow up test to be sure and guess what? I was still pregnant.
@@TashitaxLinda i did. Cassandra Cook is a hero. Shes very good at her job, therefore very busy, so i had to leave a message with her medical assistant. But i hope to God she got it.
That woman is a queen of a dr and i really want her to know she’s appreciated
@@rachelfrancis1990 amazing!! Glad you did it!
When I miscarried my OB as well made me come in every 2 days for an entire week to make sure my hcg went back down to 0.
This reminds me of when I was 15 and found out I had 2 uteruses and one didn’t have an opening so it was retaining blood and I had the worst pain I have ever felt but my doctor refused to help me he said he wouldn’t help me if I was going to lie to him (because he thought I was pregnant but I was a virgin and told him that) but he refused to do a pregnancy test or an ultrasound. I finally went to a hospital and an OB finally helped me and I had a surgery to create an opening in the uterus and there ended up having just over a liter of blood in my abdomen.....thanks male doctor who should have his license taken ☺️
I’m sorry, that’s so infuriating. That pos should absolutely not be practicing with those disgusting biases
Oh my god, please report this person, the fact that they are practicing medicine is probably risking the lives of so many people.
Same thing happened to one of my best friends! And sadly her parents didn't believe her, they accused her of being pregnant and to make it worse her dad is a general surgeon!!
Please report him that's extremely sexist and could've cost you, your life
That’s abhorrent treatment.
As the husband of a pregnant woman (23w) who has had complications (hg), this is infuriating on so many levels - between poor medical care and the toxic partner. Thanks, MDJ!
Thank you for supporting this story! Good luck with your future and I hope you and your wife and possible child are doing well!
@@AliMeetsWorld thanks! She's almost a year and a half old now. :)
As a guy who doesn’t plan on having kids, I’m extremely grateful for this video and Sabrina’s story. It really opened my eyes to how scary pregnancy can really be. As wonderful and amazing the experience can be for those who yearn to be parents, I never imagined just how many variables and complications that need to be considered. Despite not wanting kids, I do love the people around me, so their journey as parents or soon-to-be parents matter a lot to me and informative conversations like these help me understand how to be a better friend/loved one to them
Thank you for the kind thoughts. Please go and get a vasectomy if you are in a relationship with someone who can get pregnant. Be sure you never even accidentally put a woman through this.
I had a coworker who worked throughout her recovery after having surgery to remove an ectopic pregnancy because our (male) boss decided "it couldn't be worse than an intense kind of period". Not only was it awful to watch her in so much pain as we worked, it was so disrespectful and dismissive. I mean, even a "bad period" is debilitating pain, having a surgery to remove part of your body because you might die is absolutely a good reason to take sick leave.
I hope your friend sued that misogynistic asshole.
@@RedRoseSeptember22 I agree! How dare he! 😡
Like the boss even knows what an intense period feels like 😒
That just SCREAMS lawsuit! I was down for a good 6 weeks after an emergency surgery for a ruptured ectopic pregnancy in ‘97. There was no way I could have worked. I couldn’t even stand up straight.
Your coworker needs to seek a lawyer.
I had an ectopic pregnancy in my right Fallopian tube that ruptured and had internal bleeding and after my surgeon removed my Fallopian tube, went through my belly button etc wouldn’t give me a longer excuse from work than 4 days (luckily I was smart enough to get an excuse from the nurse after my surgery) .. it’s insane to think that 4 days is enough rest to go back to a physically demanding job when you can’t even drive or wear pants .. and my surgeon was a woman too
I'm really glad to see this being talked about by someone whose goal isn't just to discuss the morality of Gus's actions. I feel like fans are so concerned with him that they're almost forgetting that Sabrina is a human being who actually went through this.
Ya this is definitely tough as I like him. But I can’t be on his side here whatsoever. As a woman, a mom, the way he reacted was extremely immature and mean. My dad did that to my mom. She was having a miscarriage and he wouldn’t leave work, made her have to get my aunt (dad’s brother’s wife) to take her. Cruel.
I had an abortion and the guy who impregnated me was too busy going to his class (he missed class all the time) to come with me. I really hope Gus has matured and regrets this.
Poor Abelina, she didn’t deserve that at all!
I honestly was tearing up throughout her video. She's a very strong person. And so is every woman ❤️
@@DyslexicMitochondria your username made me click on your profile. Your channel is a hidden gem bro
Wait. WAIT. The guy was GUS?
@@sarasthoughts yeah. At this point it's been addressed by him.
When I heard how the bf reacted to her saying she had to leave work to go to the hospital because her pain was affecting her physical health to that extent, I was just like, "Nope, uh-uh! Throw the whole man out!"
Literally same
Hell yeah!
Oh sweetie...no no that's not an actual man! That is a cancerous tumor who needs to be denied residence on a woman at all costs. We have to band together and stop accepting this behavior at all! ❤❤❤ Sending a hug!
I so hope she reconsidered that relationship because…wow!
@@laurengardella9524😂😂agreed
I'm am SHOCKED that the ER doctors didn't check to rule out an ectopic pregnancy, considering how dangerous and potentially deadly they are.
No one cares about women. We're told "it's all in our head" 😡
I think the boyfriend’s attitude would still be the end of the relationship even if I had the abortion and he didn’t break up. I’d never trust him again.
unfortunately they were together until recently... abusive relationships arent easy to leave when you dont even realize its abusive
@@paadoxal yes couldn’t said it better myself I thought this was normal with my ex husband especially bc he was a soldier I can’t I have work no I can’t come home when my mom passed away no you need to go to the hospital alone I have work. Thankfully he left me for an other woman I say thankfully bc it was hard but then I meet my husband by chance an other soldier and guess what he can come home his taken me to the hospital if I need him he always communicates with me even when his deployed he lets me know ahead of time if he can’t talk. So it was painful realizing my ex abused the shit out of me
@@virginiaarthur5 oh i'm sorry, that sounds awful, i'm really glad you're in a better relationship now ❤️
I get that-it’s complicated. I get it from the guys perspective though too, especially since she said the agreement in advance was that if they got pregnant an abortion was how it would be handled.
I also get that when the reality of pregnancy hits things change for women, and they should be supported. But my boyfriend pays almost 1k in child support every month for a baby that came out of an agreement to not have a kid. He doesn’t get access to the kid.. and that’s not equitable either.
I’m a birth worker, and have dedicated by life to womens choices and freedom of choice, but I also think that the man’s experience through the fertile years is frankly not even discussed, much less understood and definitely not ever validated.
@@Lucky20231 and why can’t the guy just get a vasectomy? Feels like that would solve all their problems, no?
Paramedic here. Anytime we get a female of child bearing age with one sided abdominal pain we think ectopic pregnancy immediately. That’s a life threatening emergency.
Thank you
You mean a girl or a woman.
Female is for animals.
You paid attention in class. Thanks.
Thank you!!
I had an ectopic pregnancy when I was 25. I had tried to get pregnant for years already. Took a test and I was thrilled when it was positive. A few days later I was working and started to have pain and spotting. So I drove myself to the hospital. The pain got really bad. I was told that I had an ectopic pregnancy after having an internal ultrasound. But they couldn't see my tubes. So after being told it wasn't a viable pregnancy I had to wait for the doctor coming from about 30 miles away. I was alone. I had the car so my boyfriend or sister couldn't get tome. I was in agony. Don't know why I couldn't get something for the pain. A stranger actually went to find a doctor cause she sat there for over an hour listening to me cry in agony and no one even came to check on me. After an hour and half they finally took me for surgery. The worst part came after I woke up. Still by myself and the doctor came in and told me what had happened. I will never forget exactly what I was told. He said the they had to do pretty much a c section. They couldn't see anything without opening me up. That I had stage 4 endometriosis and would never have kids. I was never diagnosed with it before. My period cramps were so bad I would physically get sick from the pain. I was always told it's just cramps. No one in my family was ever diagnosed with endometriosis either. I had no idea that cramps that bad are not normal. But I was always dismissed when I said about my bad cramps. I was then told by a lot of people that they had endometriosis and had kids. People don't realize that the different stages determines if you can get pregnant. I tried everything from surgery to shot to put me in menopause. But stage 4 it grows bad very quick. I am now almost 50. Never had a baby. And menopause started. The only good part is no more pain.
I can’t imagine what that felt like and I’m so sorry for you. Happy you’re no longer in pain
So sorry you had to go through, alone, and otherwise. I hope that you have healed mentally and physically. I'm so sad for you.
@@diannedelledera3096 thanks. Mentally I am still suffering. When the only dream I ever had was to have children and not ever be able to it's hard. It's something I don't think will ever go away.
Ah, so it's not just me where doctors fail to write "pain" on the chart when I am saying the pain is my main concern.
I worked in registration in an ER and had a person come in with the complain of vaginal bleeding, soaking a pad an hour. The nurses didn't seem to believe her. She ended up going to the bathroom and for some reason I went to check on her, I think they were calling her to the back.
She was in the handicap stall, on the floor, and there was blood EVERYWHERE!! She had a ruptured ectopic and didn't know she was pregnant.
Always believe your patients. It's their body. They know it best.
Oh my God, this could've been me. It happened in September, I remember being told to wait in various queues while wailing in pain and there was blood dripping on the floor until I made it to the restroom
Obviously a lot lighter story and not a dangerous situation, but when I went into labor the nurse didn’t believe that my water had broken. I had been in labor all day but had just thought it was a terrible backache. Then my water broke, and I know for some people that’s not clear, like you might think you accidentally peed yourself a little, but there was no question, I felt a POP inside me I flew out of bed to the bathroom and there was gushing. It was obviously NOT pee, and then there continued to be more gushes with each contraction, soooo, obviously not pee.
Well, I labored at home for another couple hours but I started feeling scared because I couldn’t time my contractions, it just hurt a lot and I couldn’t tell what was the beginning of one. So we went in, and I am sitting there in a sodden adult diaper and the nurse is like “Well it’s very common to have incontinence and false labor.”
And I was like “well if it’s incontinence we should be concerned about the blood.”
And she says, “well undress, put on this gown, and I will be in to check you soon, but you know you could have just labored at home?”
So I undressed and sat on a towel on the exam table for an HOUR with amniotic fluid running down my legs. When she FINALLY bothered to check she was pretty quiet and and came back later and says like it’s a big surprise “So it turns out it IS amniotic fluid, you water did break!”
Yeah, no shit, I was soaking wet from the waist down still sitting on the exam table shivering.
At least she brought me hot towels after that.
Oh my word. Did she survive?!
@@ORSkie I'm not positive, but I think so. She was transferred to another hospital
@@smoupnhoizeI hope so. You gave her the best chance by checking in her. Here’s to admitting staff who are so compassionate and caring and on the ball! 👏👏👏👏💕
One of my friends chose to continue a pregnancy her boyfriend was pressuring her to terminate because the clinic counselor got her alone and gave her the opportunity to sort out her feelings without him there. They broke up immediately and her son is a teenager now.
My clinic counselor believed me immediately when I said I very much did not want to be pregnant. Neither of us have regrets.
Good for you two! I'm glad things worked out for the both of you :)
Her body her choice and I'm glad she was able to make it. :) 💕
Looks like everyone made the right choice in the end.
Honestly, I feel like the doctors she went to who ignored her pains are guilty of malpractice. How many other people might die because of that medical staff? Yikes.
Oh my gosh.... just 11 minutes in and I'm horrified. This is appallingly bad, that people didn't listen to her when she was in SO MUCH PAIN after the pregnancy of unknown location. This is crazy.
ETA: She was STILL WORKING?! She was a damn dead woman walking. My god. That bloating, she was bleeding inside, this poor, poor woman.
ETA 2: I can't help but feel angry at the former boyfriend.
ETA 3: She does look so much happier, I'm so glad she is surviving this so well.
I’m glad you said “former” boyfriend. I was concerned that she was still with this consummate jerk.
My exact thoughts as I watched
@@patriciamather5234thank god
I have to agree 🖐️
I've had an ectopic with abdominal bleeding & the pain is like nothing else 😳😭
I hope she looks at this as her mettle was tested & she is a freaking BEAST to live with that pain for WEEKS 💪
That because she FUNCTIONED with that kind of pain, there's NOTHING she can't overcome & that she's a rare individual that can claim such super human ability 🙏
I'm grateful you made a video on ectopic pregnancies. I also had an ectopic pregnancy last year that went undiagnosed, despite multiple ultrasounds showing an empty uterus and (nearly) doubling hcg levels, until it landed me in the hospital when I was internally hemorrhaging at 8 weeks pregnant. Upon surgery they found an ovarian ectopic pregnancy that'd ruptured an artery. Thankfully my hospital, partner, and family were all supportive, and I've been able to make a full recovery. I can't imagine having gone through the situation under the same circumstances as Sabrina. I'm so sorry this happened to you, Sabrina. What an absolutely tragic situation. My heart and support goes out to anyone going through any type of pregnancy loss. ❤
I’m sorry to hear about that. I watched you and your husband’s videos growing up. ❤️
Same thing happened to me, hemorrhaging at 8 weeks pregnant. The doctors told me my baby was just growing slowly even though at 6 weeks my uterus was empty >.< and my HCG was doubling
My sister-in-law had a tubal pregnancy that ruptured years ago. Her emotional impact was worsened by the fact that there was a huge blackout that affected half of our province and several northern states so the hospital was closed to visitors, so my brother couldn’t be there to comfort her. It was extremely hard on both of them.
I had one too. It was in my Fallopian tube and died around 7/8 weeks. My doctor didn’t believe me when I said how bad my pain was. It was until a few weeks later when it ruptured that they believed me and did something about it. It was one of the hardest things I’ve ever been through. I would never wish this upon anyone. My heart goes out to you and Sabrina and anyone else who’s been through one.
Mine was missed 3 times despite ultrasound showing nothing in my uterus
10:17 Thank you for explaining that a young person who "looks healthy" but is reporting severe pain should be taken seriously and their symptoms should be thoroughly investigated.
This made me feel so validated.
I am gonna be a teacher and to just imagine how often I as a teenager had unspecific abdominal pain sometimes to the point of having to lie down on the floor in class... no teacher ever told me to go see a doctor, just to be safe. To know that being fine except for pain and then suddenly crashing can occur in girls of that age is so important!!! I will be able to have this in mind with my future students and everybody will be a little safer for it
I wish I had a doctor who had asked me if someone was trying to convince me. My ex said if I didn't do it he'd do it. Unplanned pregnancy is hard and people should be given empathy and support for whatever choice they make
That's fucked. I'm sorry your partner was abusive.
I'm so sorry. You deserve a partner who loves you and takes care of you. I wish you all the best.
I went to planned parenthood for my... ya know... and they asked me at least 3 times if I was safe. It made me feel like they actually cared and they were all so non judgmental.
Holy shit, that's almost as bad as threatening to kill you, I'm so glad you dumped his ass.
@@ColFlustered the hospital that I delivered my sons at asked me that same question.
This video had me in tears 💔 the pain in her voice broke my heart. When I found out I was pregnant with my daughter they did an internal scan on me and told me “oh there’s no heartbeat your baby is dead” I refused to believe that. They tried to get me to take the meds to continue the miscarriage and I refused. They booked me in for an ultrasound the following week and low and behold there was my baby with a strong heartbeat. Turns out I was just 2 weeks earlier than they expected so they almost killed my baby girl. She’s now 13 and I think about that situation everytime I look at her. 💔
Back in the early '70s, I was having severe pain in my abdomen, and my gp told me "Do NOT go home. Go straight to the ER, and tell them you have either an ovarian cyst or an ectopic pregnancy". So, when I told them, they hospitalized me immediately, and the next morning, I was in surgery. It turned out to be an ovarian cyst along with a miscarriage. But I was grateful that they took me very seriously right away. I know how scary the possibility of an ectopic pregnancy is, and NO ONE should be treated the way Sabrina was!!!
I just don’t understand how the providers could have missed this. I’m a paramedic - meaning I have MINIMAL training in this area, essentially I’m taught to recognize potentially life threatening conditions related to pregnancy and how to deliver a baby. Even with truly minimal training within the first minutes of this story my mind went straight to an ectopic pregnancy. How are providers who are supposed to be experts missing this when her symptoms are textbook?! This is clear proof of how women are constantly ignored in healthcare. It’s the 21st century and this woman’s experience is not a rarity. Sad.
I'm a medic too, and I had the same thought process. How can us "ambulance drivers" see it but experts cant?! Having had my own ectopic pregnancy, I don't understand why the tubes aren't checked the SECOND they see an empty uterus.
I sometimes wonder if some of it is a side effect of the culture and profit drives in the American medical system. I know my doctor has to see a patient every 15 minutes. That's 16 patients a day minimum. The burn out must be real for everyone in the industry. I wonder if that makes someone more likely to dismiss something because they just don't have time or don't have the mental capacity left to pay full attention. Then on top of that you have all these unconscious biases clustering that inattention and dismissal to certain demographics.
@@LC-sc3en - that's when you know you were involuntarily placed as a 'customer' and not treated properly as a patient.
The paramedic who was with me in the ambulance is the one that took my pregnancy test and suggested I might have an ectopic pregnancy right off the bat. I'm in South Africa.
@@simnikiwehlatshaneni6765 - I hope you are doing well
Wow. I had a ectopic pregnancy and went to the Emergeny room with severe abdominal pain. As soon as my pregnancy test came back positive everything kicked into high gear. Rushed to surgery. They knew it was a ectopic pregnancy. This story is crazy.
I know this is an old video but I love how many times MDJ says things like “the way she describes this is accurate”, it’s so important following being GASLIT by her medical team for a doctor to come along and say “she is right”.
“Go bleed it out at home?!?!?!” That could be life threatening! What is wrong with that person?????
I had been treated that way with my first obgyn I had a history of ovarian cyst ruptures. And they just were like we will call in so,e meds.I’m like can I come in and have her check? No not necessary. It was painful and sad.
No, if you loose your baby very early on it is like a period that is a little bit stronger than usual.
The normal advice is therefore to stay at home and let nature take its course.
@@Celisar1 In a normal pregnancy, yes. But not an ectopic one. In a normal pregnancy you lose the baby and nothing else. In an ectopic pregnancy you lose the baby and something happens with the tissue it is implanted in.
With my SIL her baby implanted in her fallopian tube, which ruptured about a week after she found out she was pregnant. If she had been told to go home and bleed out she would be dead now.
I can’t imagine any medical professional to ever say something so Vile. They certainly wouldn’t get away with that with me!
Its so crazy that medical technology is so so advanced, but then you see young healthy people almost dying from very treatable illness just because healthcare workers cant be bothered to take them seriously.
The technology is honestly advancing faster than the humans who use said technology!
The technology may be advance, but the system under which healthcare workers must operate is archaic, for-profit bullshittery.
It's absolutely insane that they missed an ectopic pregnancy with all of her symptoms. That is terrifying.
I learned about ectopic pregnancy from Grey's Anatomy....so clearly when I was having one, I had no idea what was actually happening. The care she received is insane to me. The instant the hospital saw a positive pregnancy test for me and was told of the pain, they transported me to another larger hospital in the middle of the night for an internal sonogram and ultimately emergency surgery. This breaks my heart for her. There's no worse feeling than having someone not take you seriously.
I had a miscarriage when I was 18. I was in my fifth month and almost died. The worst part was that my doctor was angry because I called an ambulance and questions were being asked. I had been to my doctor in the days before and was told I was just fine. It has been over 40 years and still doctors dismiss our complaints. My heart goes out to this young women and she is not alone.
I'm so sorry. Thank you for sharing your story, the more we use our voices the better when it comes to these issues. I wish you the best
Can we just clone MDJ and give one of her to every person with a uterus to be their mama/doctor/guardian angel? The world would be a better place if we were just like "you get a MDJ! You get a MDJ! Everyone gets a MDJ!!"
I have a mama doctor Jones! I love her (my OB GYN), she's kind and caring. Diagnosed an ectopic pregnancy in me (nothing in the uterus) and sent me to the hospital for more imaging. She asked hubby to come in and told us. She was sad for us, we could tell.
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I so agree with you!! Fantastic doctors are very hard to find!!
Lmao. This is amazing!
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I had an ectopic pregnancy a month and a half ago. I was so shocked when my doctor called one evening and told me to go to the ER immediately to get a methotrexate injection. It was scary because I didn't know what was going on, but after seeing this I am SO thankful she was so urgent!
It’s such a fine line between “keep speaking up till someone listens” and answer shopping. A friend’s father was told by 7 different doctors that he needed dialysis, but the 8th didn’t. And he died of kidney failure not long thereafter.
Back in the 90s one of my parents' friends died from an ectopic pregnancy. She didn't even know she was pregnant. It was heartbreaking at the time, but it actually saved the life of another friend who had one years later and recognized the symptoms.
When my son was in 5th grade, his teacher almost died from an ectopic pregnancy. She was in hospital for several days and at home recovering for a little while after. She was such an awesome teacher. Her life was saved by someone else at tge school who had almost died from an ectopic about a decade earlier.
The medical situation itself is scary enough, I can't imagine how terrifying it must have been when no one believes you & supports you
Yeah :( it really makes you resentful of them especially when they dismiss you and think you're over exaggerating.
When I found out I was pregnant my baby’s dad said I was ruining his life, I’m selfish, etc. bc I absolutely would not get a abortion. He regrets those things he said to this day, our little boy is such a miracle and blessing to us.
Similar situation he wanted me to have an abortion I didn’t want one he says I ruined his life. He demanded a DNA test which I was happy to give him. 3.5 yrs later he’s still not around which is fine by me since my son isn’t a mistake and is very much loved. That being said I am pro choice it just wasn’t a choice that I felt was right for me.
I had a ruptured ectopic pregnancy and within 10 minutes of the first initial pain I couldn’t stand up, crawled up the stairs to my partner. I kept losing consciousness and went into shock, screaming in pain! It was the most horrific thing to go through and I needed blood transfusions as I lost so much blood. Thank you to the NHS for saving my life and to all people who donate blood 💕
Trying to find someone who will take you seriously in the medical field is exhausting, frightening, and makes you want to give up. I had a surgery that was supposed to help with my pain and it didn't. After seeing multiple people, it took me sobbing to a PA who listened and advocated for me. Now, with all of my specialists, I bring my husband, who is a great man, who helps me out. But, I don't just bring him to help record care instructions, I bring him because he is a man. And I've learned that regardless of me saying it, it often doesn't matter until he reiterates it. It makes me angry that this is what has to happen for me to get the care I need, but many times, this is my only option. This should not be the case. Women deserve to be heard and taken seriously by the medical community.
Amen. I can't tell you how many times I've been sent home because everything was "normal" and I was being dramatic.
This has been my experience as well in some cases. I learned that if it took that with a particular dr, then it was time for me to move on to another. Now he's there for weeding out purposes.
This is exactly what I do!!! It doesn’t matter if the doctor is a woman or a man, they always listen and do something when my husband says something, even if it’s the same thing I said. There’s a racial element as well in my case but still. It’s so frustrating.
My sister had to go through this, only instead of a husband it was mom. She had been taken to a facility farther away because she had sepsis. Two hours after she arrived there she called us sobbing because they weren’t doing anything and she was in so much pain (she had a bad habit of underplaying her pain so to hear her beg for help was horrifying) and it took mom going into Karen mode (sometimes Karen mode is needed for these situations) to get them to help. They kept saying “we’re about to go work on her” “yup we’re in her room right now” but later she called back crying and told us no one had entered her room in the last three hours. We had to take turns because if one of us wasn’t there hunting down staff they’d never pay attention to her.
@@maliadonovan2859 funny enough, the only doc he doesn't have to come with me to is the OBGYN, she and I have a great relationship and she's awesome. Unfortunately, there's a racial element to mine too. I'm Asian, husband is Irish American, so, for some reason his voice is heard. And I'm not soft spoken.
Doctor Jones, I have a friend who has social anxiety and is terrified of going to a gynecologist. I was wondering if you could make a video talking about what goes on during a normal exam so she won't be so scared. She has some issues that I keep telling her that she needs to go to a ObGyn to talk to them about but she refuses due to her fear.
No one can convince me to go to an ObGyn again. Over and over again I am in pain and not listened to, no matter who I see or what I do.
If she struggles advocating for herself maybe having someone who can advocate go with her? My best friend had her mom in the delivery room when she had her baby for that reason.
@@charmedlife1990 Unfortunately her family isn't the supportive type. I wish I could go to her but she lives halfway across the country from me and I can barely afford a tank of gas after bills.
@@TrinaVanHawkins1 I'm sorry to hear that. There has to be some sort of advocacy group that can help. I really hope she can find the support she needs.
Maybe a doula? There are "drug doulas" who watch over ppl who take psychedelics, birth doulas of course, and even death doulas. Why not emotional support at sensitive dr visits doulas? (I'm a birth doula btw)
When I was having a miscarriage my baby's father stopped to order breakfast on the way. I was literally in the passenger seat of his Camaro, screaming in pain, as he ordered eggs on a roll and bacon 😑
I hope he’s your ex now! What a dick.
Throw away the whole man lmao
What?!?!?!
My sister finally was able to get a doctor to listen to her after fighting with the medical system for two years. She is overweight and all doctors only focused on that when she told them she was having horrible periods with lots of bleeding and excruciating pain. She kept telling them that the extreme pain wasn't normal (thanks to this channel) but all they could tell her was "Loose weight and it will become normal". She was also having to go to the bathroom basically every five minutes or she would get bladder pain. After a really bad period, she was hospitalized because her hemoglobin dropped dangerously and had to get blood transfusion. Thanks to that she was sent to another gyno who finally gave her a sonogram and found out a huge fibroid pushing on her bladder and basically destroying her uterus. He was very diligent and scheduled the surgery for that same week (it was the week of her birthday) and of course told her that if there was need for it, was she ok with removing her uterus, she said "Take all you need to take out, I don't plan to have children by my own womb anyways". Her case had gotten so severe that the day that she went to get her labs done before the surgery, she was actually hospitalized again to get her more blood transfusion so she could actually go ahead with the surgery or else she would have had to wait another period cycle to get it done. All in all she was in the hospital for almost a week and came out happier than she had ever been. She is now about 70lb lighter because she doesn't have to stop working out for two week every month because of her periods and pms. Having a medical team that actually listens to you is life changing.
When I was a young child, I started having severe pain across my arms.
I went to the doctor and they called it carpal tunnel without looking at me or running any tests.
They gave me a wrist brace but it didn't do anything. It was built to support my thumb and keep my wrists from moving but half my hand was constantly going numb, I was still in such intense pain that I often cradled my arm and just tried not to cry.
Eight years later of just living with it, I finally got a doctor change after my doctor waving me off constantly. I mentioned the pain to my doctor and practically begged for surgery for my carpal tunnel.
He got up, and began to tap my arm.
On my wrists, it didn't cause any numbing like we were expecting. Then he tapped my elbow and it sent a shockwave of numbing, sudden pain down my hand, almost to the point of wanting to reel back.
He told me I had been misdiagnosed the entire time, I didn't have carpal tunnel, I had cubical tunnel.
Nerve damage in my elbow.
The doctor explained it and I read some articles. I had the poster child of it, and nobody considered it throughout the YEARS of doctor appointments.
I was angry, distraught, I had a breakdown, especially after learning I had permanent nerve damage and muscle wasting from being untreated.
I'm an author, losing my hands would be losing everything I loved. I blamed my doctors for a long time, almost wanted to scream to the world "FUCK YOU FOR IGNORING ME FOR SO LONG"
I'm still going through the process of a surgery consultation in a month, but after the shock has died down, it's so comforting to finally have an answer, finally be able to tie my pain to a true name, and the treatments finally, finally working.
@@GenXfrom75 That's awesome! I mean, not awesome that you have it too, but awesome that I'm not alone. It felt like they quickly jumped to the easiest answer but nobody, but my new doctor, even gave a physical. And after just a few minutes, there was my answer.
At times like that, one would hope that the doctor who actually figured out and solved the problem will call up every other single medical professional who dismissed your pain and failed you, and explain to those people EXACTLY how much damage they caused through their failures. And then to call up insurance and tell them they need to refund every dollar of copay and deductible you were forced to pay despite not having any answers or results.
I want to be a published author one day. Writing has been my dream. It's what I was born to do and my characters are like a family to me. If I somehow lost the ability to create my stories, I would rather die. Full stop.
I'm so sorry.
I had cubital tunnel too. It took 4 years for anyone to listen to me and do a nerve test. I had surgery my senior year of highschool to have it corrected. It's been 14 years since surgery and I still have weakness in my left arm and if my elbow gets cold it hurts. It also swells up when the weather changes or I get sick and it gets painful. I wish you all the luck with your surgery. Make sure you do your PT exercises and once you are cleared by the doctor make sure to massage your scar. I didn't and I can now stick my finger a little way into my arm.
This whole situation makes me so angry. People wonder why others are so reluctant to reach out and get medical assistance - this is why. This severe level of dismissal and outright disregard for her health and her condition is outright abysmal, and unfortunately it happens a lot to women for many different reasons. I remember getting laughed at to my face for having severe enough period cramps I’d frequently have to leave school early - it took demanding an ultrasound when I was 18 for them to figure out it was ovarian cysts. So many women I know refuse to go to the doctor because they’re told “just lose some weight” or “take a Tylenol” or “you’re just over exaggerating.” It’s frustrating, and it’s disgusting.
Yep I'm right there with you Grace. Ever since I first started having periods at age 12 they've been horrendous for me. My mother used to have to pick me up from school because cramps were so severe that I couldn't walk and was driven to the point of tears. She ripped the school nurse a new one because that witch had the nerve to say I was faking it. I've been to the ER with severe cramps and had to have a morphine shot in my bum. So yeah, the medical field needs to treat women better and actually listen to them. It's so sad that this woman could've died due to their neglect.
I can relate. Just getting through high school with teachers dismissing me completely sucked. Especially the gym teachers. I was not a bad kid. I don’t know why they just disregard a child in pain like that.
Yep the same thing happened to me when I had an ectopic. It was appalling how dismissing everyone around me was. I will never forget the ER doctor who admitted to the hospital though.. he was the first one who really truly listened to me and took it very seriously. I was so thankful for him!
i went to see an obgyn last year for back pain. Turned out I have ovarian cysts but told me it was nothing to worry about...she also did a pap smear that left me with a horrible experience. About 2 months ago I went and saw a NEW obgyn for back pain. Told her about the cysts, did an ultrasound and she was baffled. My cysts last year were 4.9 cm and this year were 5.2 cm, not a big difference but she told me my other obgyn should have offered me surgery to remove them as they were already at the halfway mark and if they were causing me so much pain it was better to remove them now rather than later. That way they dont bursts and I lose my chance of ever trying to have kids. My new obgyn immediately told me that surgery was my best option in order for the pain to stop and for me to have children later on and also went over all of the risks and benefits of the surgery. She even asked me if I wanted to have children in the future, I told her yes, and she told me "Ok, the surgery will be a bit longer than normal as I will do my best to ONLY remove the cysts and leave your ovaries in the best condition possible." To be honest I have never had an obgyn so amazingly awesome. I absolutely adore her and I am scheduled to have my surgery in January.
Yup. It’s gotten to the point I hate being a woman. Livestock are treated better.
It’s really fun to see you shift into “Dr. with patient mode” when you explained how the eggs make it to the uterus. Thanks for sharing with all of us!
I had a co-worker die from an ectopic pregnancy. She put off going to the doctor b/c she didn't have medical insurance. I found out after she hadn't come to work for a few days. It was so tragic 💔
Had an ectopic pregnancy 30 years ago in U.K. . I still have flash backs to the pain and panic that I was about to die. I was in my bedroom and couldn’t get to the window to shout for my husband who was in the garden. I’ve never got over this.
I’ve had an ectopic pregnancy also in 1997, it was horrible
I will be forever grateful to Abelina Sabrina for educating me on something so important. Thank you for following up with her!!
This makes me so emotional. I told my ultrasound tech that my pregnancy was ectopic. But she didn't believe me and refused to check me. It ruptured the next day and I had to have my tube surgically removed.
THEN the clinic called me a few days later to tell me I "might have an ectopic pregnancy". I screamed at that poor woman.
This is a horror story worse than any of the medical dramas out there. Sending lots of strength to her and anyone who has been through this situation.
Unfortunately, it isn't just medical professionals. Women are overlooked in many ways. I work at a a big box retail store in the plumbing department. I can't tell you how many times customers (mostly male) have brushed off my offers of help or addressed their questions to a male coworker standing next to me who then refers them to me because the coworker doesn't know the answer. I used to get mad about it but now figure, if they want to waste their time looking for something I can help them with in seconds that's their problem. On the other hand, I have a pretty good following of appreciative customers.
Ugh, yes! One summer in my college years I was slinging bags of soil in the garden department at Walmart and the number of customers who would decline my help loading their trucks or finding the right items only to turn around and let the first male employee they saw help was ridiculous. I wasn't randomly placed in the garden centre, I signed up for this job. If I had been randomly placed in the garden centre I'd be the one running the outdoor cash register and maybe watering the flowers. The steel toes and reflective vest aren't a fashion statement.
I'm a manager in my job. I cannot tell you how dismissive and rude men are to me. They will verbally berate me, curse me out, call me horrible names. I won't put up with that, so i figure out what needs to be done, and ask one of my Male coworkers to go to them to deal with them. Nine times out of ten, they'll tell me that the guy was nice and respectful the entire time.
I call it the magic penis effect. It's a disgusting reality, but it's what you have to deal with
Yesss! I worked at the blue hardware store and the orange hardware store in the Lumber and building material departments, Male customers would often go out of their way to find one of my male coworkers, to the point that they would be going to different departments to ask someone for help… For some reason they thought the man working in the garden centre was more qualified to cut their 2X4 then the woman working at the saw
@@kennie727 One of my coworkers in the hardware dept is constantly picked over for being a woman. When our male coworkers see this, they’re great about sending the men over to her. Now she has a couple of customers who come to seek her out specifically. It still pisses me off though
Ive had men take items in out of my arms because it's "too heavy" or shame my husband when I help him with heavy lifting. We live in a society where assumptions are not only rude and discriminatory but dangerous and deadly.
I've had two myself and the first one nearly killed me. I began to rupture and bleed out internally while I was in the shower. I was 17 at the time and I just remember excruciating pain that was so strong it knocked the breath from me and I slipped and fell in the shower. My dad actually carried me to the car wrapped in towels and a blanket to carry me to the hospital. From then I don't remember much until I woke up in the hospital without one of my tunes without recollection that a surgery had occurred. As a twice survivor of ectopic pregnancy I don't understand the question of termination of this type of situation because there is no survivor rate for this type of pregnancy left untreated baby and mom die.For the second one I had I was able to receive the methotrexate shot to terminate from my remaining tube. I also did eventually become a mother it just took quite a long time.
im glad that youre okay and were able to choose to have a child, its sad that some people die because of something that is so easy to prevent
I think there have been very, very, very rare cases of undiagnosed ectopic pregnancy where both the mother and baby survived. I think instead of seeing those cases as miracles that won't happen for most people, people think why can't it be true for everyone. A lot of people also think that modern medicine can do more than it actually can. I am glad you are doing well now.
@@KayElayempea I agree in general people think modern medicine is better that it is. I have a chronic neurological disease for which there is no treatment. People are like really are you sure there is no treatment? Like yes there is no treatment despite it being 2021
You are so strong.. I suffered from ectopic too.. and can't imagine how you can endure two of these worse things.
I’m glad you’re okay! I’m also glad your dad wrapped you up and drove you to the hospital (idk why but I’m picturing a teenager sized burrito 🌯)
I sympathize with her so much, I had an ex who, when we talked about it we had an unplanned pregnancy, he said “well obviously you’d get an abortion”. Just the way he said it and immediately shut down any conversation, it left such a horrible taste in my mouth. Still don’t know if I would call that a red flag, but the way he continuously ignored my needs like that led to us breaking up. AND I have never had a good ER experience, every time I have been in they have ignored and belittled my pain. I have had good experiences with doctors and urgent care clinics, but every time I’ve gone into an ER, they see I’m not actively dying and already deicide I’m not a priority. I hope she is happy and healthy now, and has a doctor she can trust.
I would totally call that a red flag. Emergency room priority is indeed supposed to be prioritized for those who are actively dying/in definite danger of dying, but it’s nasty and dangerous to ignore or belittle someone’s symptoms.
I hemorrhaged after vaginally delivering my daughter. No one noticed or just thought it would stop for some odd reason as so much blood was pouring out. So glad I was able to have my mom there who checked on me and advocated for me when I told her my blood pressure was drastically dropping. I was dying right in front of everyone and it took ages to be helped and two blood transfusions. I’ll never forget just laying there going in and out of it listening to their conversations. Continuity of care and communication was not there. I missed my daughters first day of life since I was sent to the ICU alone. It took until now (4 months later) to also be treated for an anal fissure. I kept getting blown off that I wasn’t bleeding from there (women can tell their vagina from anus apart) and that I had hemorrhoids or something. It was so frustrating and excruciatingly painful! Glad I pushed the issue more to get the care I need and to finally heal. People need to believe women more! Obviously we know our bodies best
Please tell me she’s not with him anymore, this whole thing breaks my heart. 😭 bless her heart, my heart goes out to her cuz, this had me in tears.
She's not. If a man threatened to break up with me over something *he* wanted me to do I'd say f*ck him and break up first.
@@RedRoseSeptember22 unfortunately it’s not that simple. She didn’t feel like she could tell anyone else and she needed someone to help care for you and someone to talk to during and after this. Sometimes being alone can feel like the worse decision in these cases. Also, in the moment it’s hard to be fully rational and she still loved him and didn’t want to lose him. It’s easy to say that about a hypothetical person, but when it’s your life and things are happening right now, it’s not easy
That’s not always easy to do… coming from someone, who was in that type of relationship.. I’m glad, she’s no longer with him tho.
That dude should be kicked in the nuts. There is no excuse for not being there for her. I have a son and if he grows up and does that to someone I'll be so disappointed and might kick him myself.
I was scrolling till I saw this, cause that's what I was thinking.
I worked in Early Pregnancy Assessment Unit as a nurse, along with a doctor and ultrasound technician, I too am appalled. Ectopic pregnancy can kill, that was always something we took very seriously!
My heart broke for this lady.
You handled her story with such care and I wish everyone could have a doctor as understanding as you.
The entire video i was wishing i could hug her and thinking i wish i could've been there for her. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy and she seems really sweet.
Two years ago I started trying to ask my doctor to look into an issue I have where the back of my head is sensitive. I can’t lie it on a pillow without ending up with a massive headache coming from the area. She refused to talk about it and shrugged me off constantly, no physical exam, nothing. I’ve been dealing with this pain for years with daily headaches constantly.
Got a new doctor recently and asked her about it. Immediately went to check and it is in fact swollen and causing issues. No diagnosis yet but just to know that I’ve been heard and listened to on its own has been such a huge relief.
did you end up getting help or a diagnosis?
There is nothing more empowering than watching two intelligent women having an open conversation like this. Thank you to both of you for your unique perspectives!
Thank you for using your status as a doctor and your platform to advocate for people who can become pregnant and all those who are oppressed. Reproductive rights are human rights, it's basic empathy and common sense and yet so many evil people fight against it. I can only hope for change and continue to fight for more education and human rights. I'm very glad Sabrina has healed a lot and has a better support system. Everyone deserves respect and love.
I had an abortion when I was very young, and the midwife who did my ultrasound left the pictures in front of me and left the room on purpose after I specifically said I didn't want to see or hear anything because of how hard this was for me. She also tried to convince me that I shouldn't do it. As if making that decision alone at 18 with all those hormones telling me not to do it wasn't hard enough. As an adult, now actually trying to get pregnant, and later being diagnosed with endometriosis this is something that will haunt me forever. A health care professional should NEVER try to change your mind about this. (She told me that since I was still with my boyfriend at that point she didn't see the problem with keeping it) It is illegal for a health care professional to refuse to perform an abortion where I live.
This needs to be sent to your political Representatives, Senators, STATE AND FEDERAL. These new laws CAN KILL WOMEN!
THANK YOU Doc for covering this!!
Conservative right do not care if we die. As long as we don’t intentionally kill an embryo or fetus.
Too many ppl don’t understand the reality of pregnancy. It’s not all sunshine and rainbows. The ppl who have no issues whatsoever are the exception but they’re used as examples to “prove” it’s the rule. Most ppl have pain, dangerous things, being super uncomfortable.
They don't/won't care.
They just want their way and as we've seen they couldn't care less about being wrong as long as they get their way. I would even go so far as to say they would rather the woman die as long as that embryo isn't terminated while the woman is still alive (they'll never accept that when the woman dies or an ectopic happens that it can't be saved. Hence why we have representatives suggesting that doctors re-implant an ectopic pregnancy). There is no reasoning with them. They are too far gone to care about science and they never cared about life, just birth and having control. They believe that understanding science is blasphemous against the Lord (whether or not they actually believe in the Lord is debatable as well) so even though science is how the world works they'll never believe in it or agree with it unless it supports their beliefs first (I was told this as catholic teen by actual parishioners at a catholic conference...I am no longer catholic). We wouldn't be in this mess if representatives cared about what science shows or how things actually work. However we need this information to be taught to students in health classes. Stuff like this needs to be common knowledge. That's how we keep future representatives from being so willfully ignorant.
I only have a problem with abortion if it's used as a form of birth control consistently.
99% of abortions are purely elective and performed on perfectly healthy mothers and babies.
Sex education should be taught in every year of middle school to high school. The basics of where babies come from and male involvement and control over your own body. The things that commonly go wrong and what to do; what to watch for. Stories like your guests bring to help us understand our bodies and what our rights are. Not the least to ask for (demand) another doctor.
I don't know why health and Physical Education aren't required every year!
I agree. I had sex ed in middle school but I had to discover so much all on my own because the school system and my peers never taught me
@@LocalSleepParalysisDemon I'm from Germany and we had pretty good sex ed. It was even part of sex ed that we learned how important pro choice is and how women can't be forced to go through labor and pregnancy against your will cuz thats inhumane. Germany isn't perfect tho we have problems as well. You can't just Google where to get a abortion instead you have to go to a organization that gives you a list of all clinic that do abortions and you need to listen to your options again but we have way better options than the people in the USA. My boyfriend and I make enough money to have a baby and own our own house and I still got 1000€ just for baby stuff as soon as I entered my third trimester and I will get 250€ every month until my child is done with education and it counts in university so it can very well be until my child will be 25years old and all of that I get from the government even though I'm not in need. If you are in need of help you get different amounts. I just have the regular help that you get for every child no matter if you're poor or rich and no matter how many kids. For every child you have you get 250€ a month so if you have 2 kids you get 500€ and so on.
I absolutely agree with you. Finally somebody said it. My exact words.
I’m so glad she posted her experiences and that you have done a thorough follow through on it. Very important to share such information. Thank you!
Thank you for this episode, I remember when I was a medical student a gynaecologist told us any woman that could get pregnant complaining of sever abdominal pain you should exclude ectopic pregnancy
This all ties in with the medical field being full of misogyny. A few months ago I had to keep going to the ER for intense pain in my lower right quadrant and they kept dismissing me because nothing showed up on their imaging, at one point a male doctor tried to tell me I had an STI which I didn't. They also wouldn't repeat imaging even though I still had pain. It's because of that experience I now hate doctors. No offense to you of course Mama but ugh it was incredibly frustrating and I'm tired of being dismissed and treated as if I'm stupid by medical staff.
I always tell them that their decision to not do another test or anything along those lines must be noted in my chart. I wish you luck with your own advocacy.
I hope you could figure out the reason of your pain? Ten years ago, doctors nearly missed my appendicitis, because I showed an "atypical" pattern of pain. So, after they performed a pregnancy test etc, and finally decided to open me up for unknown reason, my appendix was already very close to rupturing.
@@lenaneubert777 I've come to conclusion it's my periods, they've only gotten worse with age as I recently turned 35. They told me my appendix was fine but couldn't see my ovaries which was appalling to me, but they never tried again. I do get the same pain with each period now though so I'm assuming it's from that. All pregnancy tests were negative too. I have PCOS and PMDD so maybe that pain is just part of it :(
@@abigailchristenson388 I never knew those things could be listed in our charts, thank you for telling me this and I wish you well too Abigail ♥
@@RedRoseSeptember22 you should be checked for endometriosis. My sons girlfriend is only 26, had horrible endometriosis that was surgically removed, much improved now.
I need to like buy my OB some flowers or something cuz through two miscarriages and a very precarious current pregnancy that is now thankfully going well (viable and all) she and her team always listened to me and always, always, checked every option to be 100% sure things were OK. Especially with the miscarriages. I cannot even imagine what it was for her to go through that. My heart goes out. Thank you both for going into all this. Especially to Abelina Sabrina for sharing.
It's so great when you have doctors who are the way doctors should be. I have no doubt that you tell all your friends who may need gynecological care about your OB
Same! My midwife is amazing which makes it extra hard to hear stories of situations like this so heartbreaking to hear because they are absolutely a result of doctors👏not👏doing👏their👏jobs! I am glad you have had good care through all the ups and downs of what pregnancy can bring.
Congratulations on your pregnancy! It took me 7 years to get my miracle and she is so worth the wait. Have a wonderful pregnancy
I thank you for making this video and also to Sabrina for being open and discuss her story. One of my best friends had an ectopic pregnancy and it was very tough for her, but fortunately she had all the support she needed (but it was still something very traumatic of course). If someone had an ectopic pregnancy and wants to get pregnant, my friend was able to able to get pregnant like 5 months after her surgery, so you can do it and she now have a healthy daughter!
I’m so very grateful for this channel. This lady is a strong, strong person. It’s an important story to tell and I can only hope the people that need to see this, do.
My heart aches for Sabrina. I can’t imagine what she went through. The pain must have been excruciating. I spoke to my friends about her story and so many of them had no idea what an ectopic pregnancy was! I’m glad she’s spreading awareness.
It’s a very sharp pain that comes on all of a sudden and you can actually feel the internal bleeding but just don’t know what it is .. it feels like pain and fluid in the outer layers of your abdomen (that’s the best way I could explain it). For me I didn’t even know I was pregnant when it happened to me but I was bleeding for 21 days and there wasn’t a gyno that would see me without a month long wait list (you would think bleeding for that long w/ no history of prolonged periods would be a reason for an emergency visit)
@@summerviator5966 I'm so sorry that happened. I can't imagine.
i’m here from sabrina’s channel and wow!! i’m someone who’s often felt anxious around my doctors (i’m especially scared of obgyns as i’m a trans man 😅) due to feeling belittled, dismissed, discriminated against etc. but i’ve been scrolling through your content and it’s so nice to see a doctor on here being so empathetic while providing great information and commentary. it means so much to know that there are doctors like you trying to make a helpful difference on top of all the work you already do.
Look around on Reddit, you could possibly find a Trans friendly GYN in your area.
I'm a trans guy too, and MDJ is a freakin godsend.
Welcome in! Glad you’re here
Thank you thank you thank you for making this video. I have struggled to be heard about my reproductive health issues for two decades and finally found a provider that would listen, though I still have a significant fear of having an emergency and not being taken seriously. I couldn't help but cry listening to this experience knowing what I've gone through myself. The information shared here is so incredibly valuable and I wish I had access to it years ago. ❤️
I am so happy you are on UA-cam to advocate and teach all of us as an OBGYN. Your knowledge is priceless and very comforting where some people may feel alone or lost. Thank you.
My good friend nearly died from an ectopic pregnancy - since then I am terrified of this happening! Stories like this are important for women to hear
Her story really hits home for me. I had an ectopic pregnancy in March of 2020. I had quite a bit of cramping, bleeding and pain on one side. My OB told me I was miscarrying and sent me home. Three days later, I was extremely dizzy, had intense cramping, bleeding and pain. I drove myself to the closest ER and was rushed back for an ultrasound. I was taken immediately via ambulance to the nearest hospital and had surgery within an hour and a half from when I walked into the ER. My partner was out of town so I was alone at home during this experience. I'm so so glad I listened to my gut and didn't listen to the doctor who told me my experience was normal for a miscarriage!!
Glad you made it out okay ♥
It blows my mind how often pain gets pushed aside. We feel pain for lots of reasons, it’s one of the best ways our body communicates with us!
@@fishythom5910 it's a way to say something's wrong. Which is why people who dont have pain is so dangerous
I had a similar experience, I ended up in the ER 3 times before I had an actual diagnosis, all for pain. Had surgery on the 4th visit for a ruptured ectopic.
So glad you are a strong, sensible person and got yourself to the ER!
Your episodes are so valuable as a resource for kids/ young people that don’t know or who have questions. The net can be useful but also scary and easily confusing. Thank you.
I’m so glad you made this video and I’m so grateful for ALL of your videos! They are so helpful and educational to me and spread awareness about topics that really should be highlighted more. I work in EMS and had a patient that previously had an ectopic pregnancy and had their tube removed due to rupture. They also happened to have an IUD that was well past the date it should be removed, we’re sexually active and called for bleeding and significant abdominal pain. We were concerned for another ectopic pregnancy, among other things. I asked the ED doc about some of the anatomy topics you mentioned about the eggs after the Fallopian tube is removed and he gave me the wrong information. This really helped answer my very specific questions about the anatomy and it’s good to know! Thanks 😊
I also had a missed ectopic pregnancy despite having several ultrasounds. The doctors tried to tell me it was just a miscarriage and since I wasn't in a lot of pain it couldn't be an ectopic. I had a really strong feeling that something wasn't right though. Two days later I ended up in the ER due to pain. My blood pressure dropped and my pulse was very high. Turned out I was hemorrhaging internally and I had to have emergency surgery. The doctors in the ER handled really well and acted very fast. I am eternally thankful for them!
Hearing her talk about what her partner said really drove a knife into my heart because I’ve heard those exact words.
This was such an amazing video, educational and heartfelt at the same time. I love how Mama Doctor Jones is professional and gives the information, while also not being afraid to point out the mistakes that were made by others in her field. The level of sympathy is so refreshing in a world where female reproductive issues aren't talked about enough, or they're too trivialised and it costs lives
I've been experiencing some of these symptoms but I've been brushing it off. Hearing another person tell their story has made it clear I need to get help and soon, so thank you.
Thank you for sharing and I am so glad you survived. I recently went through an ectopic pregnancy and got two double doses of the medication to terminate and still ended up in emergency surgery on Thanksgiving of this year. I am so glad that we both survived and are here for another day.
I think it'd be really cool if you did a colab with Jessica Kellgren-Fozard about advocating for yourself in healthcare!
That would be an amazing collab! Especially as Jessica and Claudia have had baby Rupert! They could talk about what OBGYNs/medical staff can do to help Same Sex couples feel more comfortable and included during pregnancy care etc
This is actually such a good idea
Did Sabrina have insurance? No medical staff, including ER staff, will admit this, but I sincerely believe that lack of insurance in the USA often means ONLY the most basic care, to stabilize, avoid death, and not much beyond that.
I had a an experience in October 2010 of going to the ER after six hours of vomiting, diarrhea, and constant extreme pain. No insurance. The issue was an infected gall bladder, diagnosed via sonogram. They stabilized me (eased the diarrhea, vomiting & pain), gave me a script for pain meds, and referred me to a surgeon. I came to feel ok later in the day.
3.5 months later, I got into see a surgeon to discuss options (initial appointment delayed 3X), and had only a couple of twinges of pain in the interim, and I'd acquired insurance by January, when I saw the surgeon. Surgery is recommended, otherwise same things that took me to the ER in October, could happen again. Surgery is scheduled for March.
In March (5.5 months after initial gall bladder distress & ER visit), I went to the hospital for a scheduled same-day laparoscopic surgery to remove my gall bladder. It went well, and the surgeon told me that evening that my gall bladder was THE most infected he'd ever seen in a scheduled same-day gall bladder removal. Usually, when a gall bladder is as infected as mine was, Dr. said to me, the person is in extreme pain, goes to ER, and it's removed ASAP. Hmm, some of that sounded familiar to me! (gasp!) I said to Dr. that THAT'S what happened back in OCTOBER!! He seemed surprised, but didn't comment. I was kept overnight to have a course of intravenous antibiotics, to make sure no infection remained in my body from my infected gall bladder.
I've had a few other medical experiences, insured versus non-insured, and the level of care DOES differ.
She mentioned she went to Kaiser permanente so she must have had Kaiser insurance. I've had that insurance and literally have experienced the opposite of what you have at their facilities. While seeing my doctor at kaiser I was denied ultrasound sounds and certain test. I am currently uninsured and the NP i have started seeing at a low cost clinic has ordered all the test I requested and more and has given me a referral to get an ultrasound at a low cost center.
Also im sorry to hear about your experience. My mom went through something similar and it some time for her to finally have her gall bladder removed.
Kaiser is the absolute worst!!! I have heard so many horror stories. I stopped using them back in 2009. Like you and Sabrina I nearly died from their incompetence. I ended up paying out of pocket for a different hospital that saved my life.
I had a similar experience when I had an ectopic pregnancy and did not have insurance and felt that was the reason for my pain being dismissed or that they assumed I was fishing for pain meds.
I live in the Netherlands. I have a good insurance. We are required to have a good insurance by law. Don't worry, this has nothing to do with insurance. Doctors are human, too. Humas make mistakes. We make a lot of mistakes. And some doctors are just pure a..holes. I literally had a GP hide ultrasound results from me. HIDE them. Stupidest thing. Many months later, near death, switched doctors for like the 5th time... He reviewed my results, and saved me. But those preceding idiot MDs didn't even look at the ultrasound. They were just so convinced women make up pain they didn't look at the ultrasound results at all. I just repeat it cause I hope it sinks in how careless doctors can be. If you look up, the Netherlands is supposed to have an awesome healthcare system. And we do. But it depends on humans, and some humans are just meh.
I’ve been hospital multiple ones & been treated fine but the one time I went when it was severe my insurance placed a hold due to me not giving them info on time. It was the worst experience I had at a hospital & I felt also disregarded because I didn’t have insurance. They sent me home with a pic line in my arm to do medication alone at home after almost dying from a heart infection. & basically said can you pay for this or no because you need the medication for the pic line in your arm or you’ll die🫠
I really love that you take the time to educate people in a way that is caring, empathetic, and non judgemental. I wish you could be my OB!
I've been following your channel for a while now and I feel like I'm always learning something new from your videos and I hope more people become educated by your videos as well and hopefully make a better medical world for people and women everywhere!
The other issue with referring to outside care is that it's more days off of work you have to take. When I was working for $0.50 over minimum wage as an hourly worker I could not have taken so much time off because I only had two days of unpaid sick leave. Any more and I was at risk of losing my job. Even now in a salaried position, taking off random days off so close together would be looked down on. If I chose to have an abortion nothing would stop me but it is added unnecessary stress considering abortion is healthcare.
This is why a civilized country provides statutory sick leave and mandatory minimums for number of sick days and protection for workers from being fired over sick leave.
The USA is definitly not a civilized country.
@@SevCaswell the usa is a third world country wearing a gucci belt....
One of my coworkers probably would have died if our manager hadn't told her to go to the hospital. She had been bleeding for months and she had to have 2 blood transfusions and an emergency hysterectomy because they found a mass (turned out non cancerous) in her uterus.
I am so appalled at how they treated her. I went into the emergency room with a positive pregnancy test and a lot of pain and they (correctly) did a transvaginal ultrasound and tested my hcg levels over the span of three days. I can't imagine.
I’m so grateful you talk so candidly about the ways that being let down by the medical system can cause serious trauma and long lasting negative health outcomes. I had to learn the hard way how to advocate for myself with doctors after I had a traumatic encounter of my own at the ER. I’m terrified to be pregnant (even though I would like to carry a child) because of that trauma, even after lots of therapy. I’ve treasured your channel so much because you’ve basically been my gyno when I couldn’t see one for real because of trauma. I figured at least learning as much as I can is better than having no gyn care at all. Thank you for being there for all of us, MDJ ❤️
This was awesome. I really appreciate all the blunt discussion
I'm so shocked...i've had 2 very early miscarriages (it was too early to see anything in my uterus) and for both of them, i had vaginal ultrasound AND hcg levels every two days for a week to be sure it wasn't an ectopic pregnancy. (I'm in France)
And two of my friends actually had ectopic pregnancies and it was already so hard for them, even though it was diagnosed on time, that i can't imagine what Sabrina have been through.
I had three chemical pregnancies. One might have been an ectopic that took care of itself. I had rising hcg for weeks but not at a pace that made it viable.... but I had bleeding for a week and when they double checked my hcg to make sure it was over, it was still rising, so they really think that one was maybe in the tube ( hcg was rising even after days of bleeding like a period but under 1000 so couldn't have been seen regardless). I had hcg done every 2-3 days all the way until it went back under 5. It was like three weeks. I had serial hcg for every chemical pregnancy until it went under 5... I can't believe this happened to her.
This was extremely hard to listen to. I'm a male so obviously I could never even begin to understand how she had felt, however I have, and still am dealing with doctors and medical professionals dismissing me and my pain. I have fibromyalgia and have been hospitalized multiple times and a few times I've been told that I'd be fine with some Tylenol and exercise. So I totally understand the being dismissed part, and it's so sad to hear how common this has become.
I do live in Canada, so things do work a bit differently here, but it goes to show this kinda stuff happens outside of the US as well.
I hope everything turns out well long term.
People with chronic pain, autoimmune disorders, and invisible disabilities get their pain dismissed or minimized by both society and medical professionals. Personal experience.
Thank you for making this video!! As a mental health counselor I sometimes find that helping clients learn to advocate for themselves is an incredibly powerful tool in all sorts of situations. Sadly it isn’t enough sometimes and in that case it falls to all healthcare practitioners and workers to be informed of what can happen and the consequences so we can be effective in helping our clients and patients become healthier individuals
You are an awesome Dr. I love watching your reactions to the “I didn’t know I was pregnant!” But this particular video and you’re talking with the woman was fantastic! Thank you for being you! ❤