Of course, ESPN trying to make up and gaslight acting like they weren’t part of the Celtics constant criticism. And why is UD still there, I know it hurts him after all the comments he made about them and he still find a way to be hating, eat crow.
have you heard of his comments before on the Celtics like example “They are not battle tested” the cs have been playing hard for past years and overcame it, but don’t want to credit them
@@gaynellmccray9768 To play at least 15 years in the NBA be a 3 time champion and also part of a NCAA championship he can talk waaaaaaayyyy more then Jay Will.
ESPN's a joke = they criticize Tatum/BOS the entire playoffs, for winning too much & not losing enough, to now say "are we criticizing Tatum unfairly?", when you already knew the answer + who talks about the losing team after "The Finals"?? Where do they do that??
To be fair, Greeny has been the most positive about the Celtics than anyone else on ESPN. You're not wrong, buy Greeny has been the one to say the C's are just that good.
Celtics win tittle Espn day 1: was tatum unfairly critized Day 2: did he silence his critics Day 3: did he do enough to silence his criticts Day 4: did we fairly critized him in the finals Day 5: were his criticts accurate Day 6: how can we bring up criticts again ??
I'm sorry I can't take Udonis Haslem seriously, he's such a Celtics hater. What is the point of him even talking about the Celtics? It'd be like Derek Jeter talking about the Red Sox.
@@insiderh669 The Celtics will CRUSH the Warriors if they met again. But they never will because the Warriors are washed up. Lost one time in their 1st finals against a veteran team all of a sudden they are sonned. Run it back
I've seen Tatum score 46 points against Giannis, 50 points against Kevin Durant, and 51 points against Joel Embiid all in playoff games and people are still questioning whether or not he's a top 5 player even though he's been 1st team All-NBA for 3 consecutive seasons
@@TheDefenseIsUpNext Jaylen Brown is underrated, at worst the 2nd best SG in the league. It literally took BOTH of them to win. To say that someone who led his team in points, rebounds, and assists was "carried" is ridiculous
Yeah, and then he reaches the finals and his shooting precentage, shot selection, and overall offensive efficiency PLUMMETS. So yeah, turns out that’s a pretty good reason to go ummm maybe he’s not top5. Im so tired of this argument that’s ridiculous you can’t even make a real argument that he’s the best player on his own team unless your delusional and act like Tatum is leagues above brown, which these finals proved that it’s really not as far as people try and make it out to be
Almost every ESPN 'expert' picked the Mavs to win the title because Tatum and Brown lost in 2022 and weren't as clutch as Kyrie and Luka who those same experts said were the possibly the two best closers of all time. The idea that Tatum doesn't get criticism.. you have commentators on your channel constantly talking about how Tatum shoots too many tough shots and makes things too hard for himself. He's never mentioned as MVP and players like Luka are always put ahead of him. He led the team in points, assists and rebounds in the playoffs, was the only Celtic to show up in game 4 and was the best player in game 5..and wasn't voted MVP mainly because a number of ESPN voters voted for JB. ESPN then being incredulous that he says he's always criticized.. classic ESPN fence sitting.
ESPN being hypocrites once again. Ofc Tatum doesn’t deserve the hate, the NBA media is just pure negativity and hatred. Ppl dont actually love the game like they say they do, they like the narratives, they like media drama.
lol Lowe asking "Who are the critics??" and then putting up the UD feed after UD picked the Mavs to win, made fun of Bill Russell, and has generally crapped on the Celtics all year. ESPN is almost becoming self aware
naaah ESPN we kept the receipts since 2018. yall kept trashing the Celtics and create false narratives about the J's. dont act like you're not the media and the critiques. man up and apologize to the Celtics rather than gaslight the entire viewers
ESPN should put an apology out to the whole Celtics organization. 98% of everyone in the media picked Dallas with confidence.😂 say sorry to the Pacers too because I guarantee you they would have beat Dallas. They gave Celtics a much more harder series.
@@stephen5709with the pace they play at they probably would have, the Pacers had the highest offensive rating most of the season only Boston was better offensively, and Luka and Kyrie can’t guard a chair bolted to the floor, the Mavs are severely overrated
OG Celtics fan here 👋 I think the majority of the criticism stems from making the finals so young, all the endorsements & him literally saying he wanted to be the face of the NBA, then not playing up to those expectations. He wanted the spotlight and disappeared into the shadows.
Stop with the cap man. The criticism towards him and JB came from ESPN, the entire playoffs they create the narrative that Boston was winning just because of the injuries, but they didn't say the same in 2022 when in the finals Smart, Brown, Rob Williams and Tatum all were playing injured and Celtics fan didn't use it as excuse. Last year game 7, Tatum sprained his ankle and was injured in the first minute the narrative was like the Heat won against a heathy Celtics team. They hyped the Knicks for eliminating Philly with Embiid playing on one leg, hyped the Pacers to be able to beat the Knicks full of injuries but when it was the Celtics "they're only beating injured teams" like injuries aren't part of the game and be available is also a skill. They were the ones first saying Boston should trade either Brown or Tatum. They were saying Boston couldn't win against a team from the West, in 35 games against the west including playoffs Boston record is 27-8. They criticised Tatum the entire playoffs harshly like he was playing bad, the only thing that was missing was his efficiency shooting while he was leading the team the entire playoff's run in Points, Rebounds, Assists and ask to guard 1 to 5 after KP injury. Now they acting like no one criticised Tatum and the all Celtics team unfairly.
Now these dudes going to act like they weren’t saying that Tatum and Brown should have been split… or that Tatum wasn’t a super star. And now they are trying all types of mental gymnastics.
im a mavericks fan, but can't lie tatum has had some of the greatest eliminations games in boston celtics history. an underrated one was him snatching game 6 from philly last year in the fourth quarter despite shooting poorly up until then.
Also don’t forget about 51 the very next game which is a game 7 record, he also dropped 46 in an elimination game against the Bucks and won eastern conference finals MVP in 2022, this narrative that Tatum always chokes in the playoffs is ridiculous
They never do this to Luka .... He's always gotten a pass since he entered the league ....Tatum has been getting crushed at an early age something Luka hasn't experienced with all of his bad habits and i can't stand the Cs but lets be real Luka has always gotten a pass ...
@@bryanmwesigye1612 They say it to degrade another Bottomline Luka should be the one getting the criticism....Now if Boston had lost this series he would have gotten bashed but Luka gets a pass yet they want to say he's the best in the world ...
Absolutely, he has been unfairly criticized. Joel Embiid is constantly mentioned as a top 5 player and won a MVP and has never been out of the second round. I never hear him getting criticized.
Look at Embiid's rosters and compare that to Tatum's. Tatum has never played on a bad roster. NEVER. Amd he said he's the best player in the world, which is a complete joke. He deserves the criticism
@@TheDefenseIsUpNext Philly's rosters were never bad. Embiid just made them to be as coaching and the style of play never allowed the other players to be better. You know how many ball touches or how much utilization Joel Embiid has had? He also has been known to dip out in the 4th and not do anything as he is either gassed or can't handle the pressure. It's either that or he tries to play like a guard and gets hurt.
"We have to create a mountain for him to climb." And that right there, is what is wrong with ESPN. Creating drama which indeed is unfair criticism, for just ratings.
Yeah, I miss the days when ESPN was less about opinion segments (there were still a few, but they weren't the main focus) and more about just telling me what happened in the world of sports, or just broadcasting live sports obviously.
Smart people allow their opinions to be altered. At least this panel is trying - more than I can say for the majority of the panel that’s been on get up the last few weeks
ESPN's marketing strategy consists of manufacturing narratives and then criticizing those narratives when proven wrong. It creates an endless loop of content 😂
🥷☘️ Jayson Tatum through 7 seasons - 1x NBA champion (2024) - 5x NBA All-Star (2020-2024)(4x starter) - NBA All-Star Game MVP (2023) - 3x All-NBA First Team (2022,2023,2024) - All-NBA Third Team (2020) - NBA Eastern Conference Finals MVP (2022) - NBA All-Rookie First Team (2018) - 1,296 Threes Made - Youngest player with 1,000 career 3PM - 5 All-NBA Appearances - 5 ECF Appearances(and counting) - 2x Finals Appearance (and counting) - 1st player to score 51 in a Game 7 - Most 30-PT games in a season in franchise history - Scored the most points in an ASG - 1st Celtic to average 30+ PPG - 3rd in playoff points before turning 27 (needs 180 to pass LeBron in 1st) - 1st in playoff 3PM before turning 27 - The most wins since entering the league - The most playoff wins since entering the league Career stats 23.1 PPG | 7.2 RPG | 4.0 APG | 1.1 SPG |1 BPG | 2.3 TO | 46.0/37.5/84.4% | 58.3 TS | 11,852 Total Pts | 3,670 total Rebounds | 1812 total assists | 563 total STLS | 346 total blks | 1180 total TO | 513 GP Career playoff stats 38.7 MPG | 24 PPG | 8.0 RPG | 5.0 APG | 1.1 SPG | 1.0 BPG | 2.9 TO | 108 GP | 2574 total Pts | 845 total Reb | 505 total AST | 120 total STLS | 97 total blks | 305 total TO | 44.2/35.5/83.0% | 39 MPG 2022 ECF: W Tatum - 25/8/6 Butler 25/7/3 2022 ECSF: W Tatum drops 46/9/4 in a pivotal game 6, down 3-2 on the road vs Giannis and reigning champion bucks, goes on to win the series Jayson Tatum PPG per season: 2017-18: 13.9 2018-19: 15.7 2019-20: 26.4 2020-21: 26.9 2022-23: 30.1 2023-24: 27.0 Jayson Tatum career high's as a statline: 60 Points | 19 Rebounds | 12 Assists | 6 Blocks | 5 Steals Only player to score 50+ points in the: - Regular Season - All-Star Game - Play-In Tournament - Playoffs
What they don't know is, the internet hates Tatum. I never see a highlight mixtape, it's always a post shitting on him. Add in the fact that he's young, Jayson is talking about NBA Twitter. Just my take.
The way Perk would talk about Tatum and the Celtics was awful. They beat a team in 5 he was like" they should of swept them". Tatum scores 30, " well he should of had 50" . Tatum leads the team in points rebounds and assists " Jaylen Brown is the best player on the Celtics". The way ESPN covered the team was disgraceful.
Nope, that’s how he shows that he cares deeply about the Cs winning. Candid feedback and criticism is required in order to improve. Perk just keeping it real.
I feel like im being gaslit this is insane lmao Tatum was getting skewered all post season while he was in the midst of accomplishing something only 5 other players have ever done. Insane
Tatum shoots 38% fg for the finals series and his team won 4-1.. He is lucky he is surrounded by great talent since he was drafted. Every year he will only need to win 1 or 2 playoff series to win a ring because he is always have great teammates while playing in a weak conference. He doesn't even need to show up to win.
Saying the Mavs had no margin for error as the underdog who were picked by every single “expert” is a great bit of revisionist history from said experts
Tatum is elite. he is a better version of PG13. he's also become a great leader. He's not necessarily KD, but not far. He is in between PG13 and KD which is amazing. Steph did not win NBA Finals MVP 3 times and he is considered by many a top 10 player. Get over it haters Tatum is now the best SF in the game. SGA, Edwards, Tatum, Giannis, Wemby.
True. But PG has been massively over-rated since he entered the league. Devin Booker (I know they’re different positions) would be a better comp. Or Kawai for that matter
@@cjsmith5787 Well, I kind of see what you mean. He is past his prime now, but I think I'm saying if you watched a young PG13 when he went 7 games vs. Heat and Lebron in ECF and kind of projecting him before he had that terrible leg break. I think they are pretty similar players overall.
Teams were banged up? Each team had 1 player injured, so did the Celtics. They played without Porzingis throughout the entire playoffs and the finals except 1 1/2 games.
Dude shot 38.7% fg in the Finals and padded his stats in the 4th qtr of a 25 pt blowout in garbage time in a desperate attempt to STEAL Finals Mvp from JB. Kobe would be ashamed Meerkat Mentality Smh
What was Browns FG% in game 7 of the heat last year when he was the number 1 option after Tatum got hurt? I looked it up... it was lower than 38.7%. Difference is that Brown is not a good playmaker either, and that's why they got blown out that game and got sent home.
@@America2Monaco What is LeTatumBRICKS Fg% in his 11 Finals games combined?? Spoiler: Its less than 40 pct Dude looks scared on the biggest stage and CHOKES under pressure
UD don’t have enough basketball knowledge as far as information on the Celtics cause he was so worried about the Heat. Tatum never was in a losing situation, Boston was always winning since he’s been drafted. Had Isiah Thomas, Kyrie, Kemba, as PGs.
They all say the catch phrase “what they gonna say now” because YOU as media consistently criticize them (unfairly) for ratings all the time!! At least Dom admits they “have to create story lines.” On top of that, you’re not graceful and quick enough to give them their flowers, apologizing and accepting that y’all were wrong. It’s embarrassing, very.
Why not? He was a professional athlete and is a professional pundit. Should female reporters not be allowed to talk men’s sports? I’d much rather hear him talk than you
Here goes the sports media narrative to pin Tatum Vs. Brown, and who's better, and whose team is it. I know they've been doing it, but they're gonna turn up the 🔥
That's a joke right. Luka whole offense relies on him pushing off and hitting players with his shoulder. If the official would call him, it 25% of his points would be gone. He also plays no defense and always complains.
Jayson Tatum is the current King of Celtics , & Protector of the Realm. J Brown is Jayson's Hand , Holiday Master of War, White Master of Whisperers, KP Lord Commander of the Kings Guard, Horford Master of Laws.
He was the best player on the Celtics teams statistically in the finals. He played phenomenal defense on Luca. He proved everyone wrong. I’m surprised he did not get MVP but to be honest, nobody cares or remembers MVPs they remember champions. Brown and Tatum can win multiple championships. They are both so good together.
It doesn't make any sense. Chips is the only thing that matters. Who cares if he shot poorly in the Finals? "Clutch" is not a real metric that matters. Winning is.
Ppl saying the east was weak but the Celtics been one of the best teams in the east for the past 5 plus years and beat. every team in the east. Mfs sounds dumb saying everyone was hurt
I don’t understand the double standards when it comes to Luka. Y’all ripped Tatum apart as a 24 year old and held it against him up until Sunday for what he did in his finals and pretty much banned him from the top 5 because of it but turn around and say Lukas young he’ll get better. Nobody ever mentions how the Celtics wouldn’t be near what they are without Tatum but we’re doing that for Luka. Criticized Tatum for not winning it all despite his personal statistics and now that he’s won it all we’re moving the goalposts to now he needs the personal accolades but Lukas place in the league hasn’t budged after being the main target on defense and mid offensively meanwhile he hasn’t won half as much as Tatum has. Just doesn’t make sense to me
Everyone at espn “ok guys, the Celtics won, how do we slander jayson tatum now. Also the Mavs just lost the finals 4-1 I guess we have to find something to criticize luka about finally.
He did better in the eastern conference finals and finals. The media has no story so they needed to create one with him. Just evil. He was the mvp of both rounds.
I’ve never seen a player get criticized for not being the best player on his team after scoring 31 in a close out game to win the Chip. Ever. Why do they keep talking about that? They didn’t do that to Steph, KG, DWade. It’s weird.
With Steph and KD they did. And kd had wayyyyyy more noise around him. They need talking points, and the jury is still out on JT when it comes to most fans and pundits alike. JT isn’t crying. Why are some of his fans?
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Just a casual Tatum hater. He impacted the game in so many other ways than scoring and efficiency. Stop box score watching and learn the game of basketball
@@neddane898Tatum defenders say what you say about 3rd option players “the intangibles” he stat padded in blowouts in Finals and was hitting wide open people for easy Assists because Dallas plays terrible defense and he still throwing up bricks at 38%
Tatum has NOT silenced me! He was lucky to be on a talented team, because he was throwing up BRICKS all series, because he's a soft choker. Until he plays well in big moments, I can't call him "great".
Yes Tatum has been unfairly criticized by the trash talking heads in sports media and the dumb kids that think they know ball on social media. Its gone beyond criticism and into the realm of hate. Real hoop heads and actual basketball analysts have been fair and always gave him credit for the player he is.
recency bias is crazy. A lot of the teams the celtics face or didnt face were injured beyond repair. Celtics faced an injured pacers, without Haliubrton and they kept the game place without Hali. The Celtics didnt face a healthy Heat first round, didnt face a healthy Knicks, who are dangerous with a full squad, faced an injured Cavaliers, like no, they are not dominant. They're team is stacked, but they were not battle proven facing tough opponents. They constatnly got the best draw of cards facing the teams they did. Its the league, I dont blame them for facing who they face, but they were really fortunate they each team that could've gave them trouble, had their best players injured. If the Celtics faced a healthy Knicks or Healthy Heat, this would be a much different discussion. Lets not forget what Butler did last year, and previous years. He's owned them a lot of the times, but because a lot of teams that Celtics faced were injured, now their the most dominant Celtics ever? im sorry who did they actually face, and play and have their backs against the wall to get here? they didnt face true adversity casue the teams they faced were so hurt, the competition was not there. So quick to forget. And listen, they dominated the Mavs, so i give them that. But no, a lot of their competition got hurt. Face a healthy Heat next team and dont go down 3-2 and then lets talk. Start there.
Wrote all this nonsense to be dead wrong. You may have heard of Porzingis - you realize he was injured ALL playoffs right? You realize the Celtics had one of the MOST dominant regular seasons of all time as well right? That includes smashing the Heat WITH Butler multiple times. This wasn’t the same Celtics team as last year. You realize 89% of bettors picked the Mavs to win right? Now all of a sudden the Celtics didn’t face any competition? FYI, the Celtics were 4-1 in the games Haliburton and Mitchell played. Those games were ALL without their all-star starting Center. Sit this one out kid.
Udonis Haslem hates the Celtics, his takes on Tatum, creating storylines he never accomplished himself, are so off and will never admit the Boston Celtics GREATNESS! 🤡
@@jonjones9917The best ability is availability. The media keeps blaming the Celtics for having the only stars in the league that aren't fragile. And Boston's all star center was hurt the whole playoffs.
The fact that they’re trying to gaslight us into thinking they were fair to the kid is nasty work
PRECISELY!!
Of course, ESPN trying to make up and gaslight acting like they weren’t part of the Celtics constant criticism. And why is UD still there, I know it hurts him after all the comments he made about them and he still find a way to be hating, eat crow.
I think UD gave a fair assessment
have you heard of his comments before on the Celtics like example “They are not battle tested” the cs have been playing hard for past years and overcame it, but don’t want to credit them
@@ngxuksbattle tested has absolutely NOTHING to do with how good a team is. people brought it up as an imaginary argument to discredit the celtics
UD shouldn't have anything to say about nobody. He has no room to talk..he wasn't all that ijs
@@gaynellmccray9768 To play at least 15 years in the NBA be a 3 time champion and also part of a NCAA championship he can talk waaaaaaayyyy more then Jay Will.
criticizing tatum like a top 5 player but don't treat him like that when he wins
shi is crazy😂💯
What Luka needs is stop crying for fouls, his talent is undeniable, and he's already a young veteran, dude has been balling since early in his life.
He’s a complainer I’m glad ESPN finally exposed him
ESPN's a joke = they criticize Tatum/BOS the entire playoffs, for winning too much & not losing enough, to now say "are we criticizing Tatum unfairly?", when you already knew the answer + who talks about the losing team after "The Finals"?? Where do they do that??
To be fair, Greeny has been the most positive about the Celtics than anyone else on ESPN. You're not wrong, buy Greeny has been the one to say the C's are just that good.
CRY
Celtics win tittle
Espn day 1: was tatum unfairly critized
Day 2: did he silence his critics
Day 3: did he do enough to silence his criticts
Day 4: did we fairly critized him in the finals
Day 5: were his criticts accurate
Day 6: how can we bring up criticts again ??
I'm sorry I can't take Udonis Haslem seriously, he's such a Celtics hater. What is the point of him even talking about the Celtics? It'd be like Derek Jeter talking about the Red Sox.
Remember UD said “the Celtics weren’t battle tested and they ain’t going to win the finals…”peppermint farms remembers. dude is a clown
Tatum can't beat the Warriors. Steph will always be his dad.
He’s a bench legend 😂
He was fair this time though
@@insiderh669 The Celtics will CRUSH the Warriors if they met again. But they never will because the Warriors are washed up. Lost one time in their 1st finals against a veteran team all of a sudden they are sonned. Run it back
I've seen Tatum score 46 points against Giannis, 50 points against Kevin Durant, and 51 points against Joel Embiid all in playoff games and people are still questioning whether or not he's a top 5 player even though he's been 1st team All-NBA for 3 consecutive seasons
Yeah and then you saw him fail to score 20 pts in 3 games of the nba finals. Dude is overrated
@@TheDefenseIsUpNext He scored 30+ in 2 out of 5 games in the NBA finals. You're definitely a part of the narrative
@@Tone_M0NTANA lol. In other words he was carried by Jayles Brown in 3 of 5 games. You're part of the Tatum fanboys clearly
@@TheDefenseIsUpNext Jaylen Brown is underrated, at worst the 2nd best SG in the league. It literally took BOTH of them to win. To say that someone who led his team in points, rebounds, and assists was "carried" is ridiculous
Yeah, and then he reaches the finals and his shooting precentage, shot selection, and overall offensive efficiency PLUMMETS. So yeah, turns out that’s a pretty good reason to go ummm maybe he’s not top5. Im so tired of this argument that’s ridiculous you can’t even make a real argument that he’s the best player on his own team unless your delusional and act like Tatum is leagues above brown, which these finals proved that it’s really not as far as people try and make it out to be
Yall were the ones criticizing 😂
Right. 😂😂😂😂
"Who are the critics" ... how dumb can you be, you don't deserve air time, bunch of goofies
Almost every ESPN 'expert' picked the Mavs to win the title because Tatum and Brown lost in 2022 and weren't as clutch as Kyrie and Luka who those same experts said were the possibly the two best closers of all time. The idea that Tatum doesn't get criticism.. you have commentators on your channel constantly talking about how Tatum shoots too many tough shots and makes things too hard for himself. He's never mentioned as MVP and players like Luka are always put ahead of him. He led the team in points, assists and rebounds in the playoffs, was the only Celtic to show up in game 4 and was the best player in game 5..and wasn't voted MVP mainly because a number of ESPN voters voted for JB. ESPN then being incredulous that he says he's always criticized.. classic ESPN fence sitting.
CRy
ESPN being hypocrites once again.
Ofc Tatum doesn’t deserve the hate, the NBA media is just pure negativity and hatred. Ppl dont actually love the game like they say they do, they like the narratives, they like media drama.
ESPN is the one peddling Tatum Criticism, us fans dont care if he doesnt win FMVP
He shoots 32% in the finals 💀💀💀💀
Us fans are just happy we have him on our team, we know how good he is, what other people say don’t matter
@@200money2it was 39, I know a player universally LOVED while shooting those Trashass fg%’s
@@200money2 So?? Luka and Kyrie shot worst , the point is you have to win 4 games. So its better to bench tatum for shooting 32% right?
Exactly. Such an overrated award in my opinion
lol Lowe asking "Who are the critics??" and then putting up the UD feed after UD picked the Mavs to win, made fun of Bill Russell, and has generally crapped on the Celtics all year. ESPN is almost becoming self aware
ESPN and comment sections all over the internet have been saying Jayson isn’t good enough for years lol…
naaah ESPN we kept the receipts since 2018. yall kept trashing the Celtics and create false narratives about the J's. dont act like you're not the media and the critiques. man up and apologize to the Celtics rather than gaslight the entire viewers
ESPN should put an apology out to the whole Celtics organization. 98% of everyone in the media picked Dallas with confidence.😂 say sorry to the Pacers too because I guarantee you they would have beat Dallas. They gave Celtics a much more harder series.
It’s not that deep bro clam down 💀💀💀
lol you’re delusional if you think the Pacers would’ve beaten this Mavs team.
@@stephen5709with the pace they play at they probably would have, the Pacers had the highest offensive rating most of the season only Boston was better offensively, and Luka and Kyrie can’t guard a chair bolted to the floor, the Mavs are severely overrated
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OG Celtics fan here 👋 I think the majority of the criticism stems from making the finals so young, all the endorsements & him literally saying he wanted to be the face of the NBA, then not playing up to those expectations. He wanted the spotlight and disappeared into the shadows.
Stop with the cap man. The criticism towards him and JB came from ESPN, the entire playoffs they create the narrative that Boston was winning just because of the injuries, but they didn't say the same in 2022 when in the finals Smart, Brown, Rob Williams and Tatum all were playing injured and Celtics fan didn't use it as excuse. Last year game 7, Tatum sprained his ankle and was injured in the first minute the narrative was like the Heat won against a heathy Celtics team. They hyped the Knicks for eliminating Philly with Embiid playing on one leg, hyped the Pacers to be able to beat the Knicks full of injuries but when it was the Celtics "they're only beating injured teams" like injuries aren't part of the game and be available is also a skill. They were the ones first saying Boston should trade either Brown or Tatum. They were saying Boston couldn't win against a team from the West, in 35 games against the west including playoffs Boston record is 27-8. They criticised Tatum the entire playoffs harshly like he was playing bad, the only thing that was missing was his efficiency shooting while he was leading the team the entire playoff's run in Points, Rebounds, Assists and ask to guard 1 to 5 after KP injury. Now they acting like no one criticised Tatum and the all Celtics team unfairly.
Now these dudes going to act like they weren’t saying that Tatum and Brown should have been split… or that Tatum wasn’t a super star. And now they are trying all types of mental gymnastics.
I hope Boston can win again, so annoying ESPN doesn't give enough credit to Celtics.
Yes because they are Pro-Lakers and Klutch Sports
Boston not winning again
@@SleepingSounds-ow9gny not? On paper they r clearly the best team in the league and actually play great team ball which is unheard of nowadays
@@SleepingSounds-ow9gn never say never lol
@@MazevGwont be easy
im a mavericks fan, but can't lie tatum has had some of the greatest eliminations games in boston celtics history. an underrated one was him snatching game 6 from philly last year in the fourth quarter despite shooting poorly up until then.
Then 51 points the next game
Also don’t forget about 51 the very next game which is a game 7 record, he also dropped 46 in an elimination game against the Bucks and won eastern conference finals MVP in 2022, this narrative that Tatum always chokes in the playoffs is ridiculous
That Game 6 on the road against Milwaukee was something else. People act like Tatum isn’t capable.
@@lxbronx6doesn’t make sense at all
Udonis brings as much value with his takes as he used to as a player with Miami.
They never do this to Luka .... He's always gotten a pass since he entered the league ....Tatum has been getting crushed at an early age something Luka hasn't experienced with all of his bad habits and i can't stand the Cs but lets be real Luka has always gotten a pass ...
Luka playing in the stacked west, Tatum playing on a superteam in a cupcake east so i say criticism is justified.
@@djkido316Lebron did the same thing in the East no one called it a cupcake East all those years he made it to the finals.
@@djkido316 Always an excuse for poor old cry baby Luka
@@bryanmwesigye1612 They say it to degrade another Bottomline Luka should be the one getting the criticism....Now if Boston had lost this series he would have gotten bashed but Luka gets a pass yet they want to say he's the best in the world ...
@@bryanmwesigye1612 that’s not true wth Lmfao 🤣, all anyone ever talks about was how easy lebrons paths to the finals were what are you saying
Absolutely, he has been unfairly criticized. Joel Embiid is constantly mentioned as a top 5 player and won a MVP and has never been out of the second round. I never hear him getting criticized.
frrrrrrrrrrrrr
Look at Embiid's rosters and compare that to Tatum's. Tatum has never played on a bad roster. NEVER. Amd he said he's the best player in the world, which is a complete joke. He deserves the criticism
If Embiid was in Boston we would have won the last 3 championships and I don't like Embiid 💀
@@TheDefenseIsUpNext Philly's rosters were never bad. Embiid just made them to be as coaching and the style of play never allowed the other players to be better. You know how many ball touches or how much utilization Joel Embiid has had? He also has been known to dip out in the 4th and not do anything as he is either gassed or can't handle the pressure. It's either that or he tries to play like a guard and gets hurt.
@@TheDefenseIsUpNexthave you seen his 2021 playoff roster?
"We have to create a mountain for him to climb." And that right there, is what is wrong with ESPN. Creating drama which indeed is unfair criticism, for just ratings.
Yeah, I miss the days when ESPN was less about opinion segments (there were still a few, but they weren't the main focus) and more about just telling me what happened in the world of sports, or just broadcasting live sports obviously.
Then suddenly the Media have common sense right after the celtics won it all. Lmao
Smart people allow their opinions to be altered. At least this panel is trying - more than I can say for the majority of the panel that’s been on get up the last few weeks
“West basketball is different , they will be tested”
Beats them in 5 😂 stay on that side ESPN
UD HAS THE NERVE TO SAY THE EAST IS WEAK ? What was it when bron was there ? Was it competitive?
Facts
He's a certified clown, he won't last long talking about sports
@@1andOnlyKB still doesn’t take away from them being a good team tho CHAMPS AT THE END OF THE DAY
Zack Lowe is a real one, Udonis is also a great addition. Others can suck it.
Luka was like a robot so slow and kyrie folded like LJ in that finals against the mavs lol.
ESPN's marketing strategy consists of manufacturing narratives and then criticizing those narratives when proven wrong. It creates an endless loop of content 😂
Congratulations Tatum🎉❤🎉
🥷☘️ Jayson Tatum through 7 seasons
- 1x NBA champion (2024)
- 5x NBA All-Star (2020-2024)(4x starter)
- NBA All-Star Game MVP (2023)
- 3x All-NBA First Team (2022,2023,2024)
- All-NBA Third Team (2020)
- NBA Eastern Conference Finals MVP (2022)
- NBA All-Rookie First Team (2018)
- 1,296 Threes Made
- Youngest player with 1,000 career 3PM
- 5 All-NBA Appearances
- 5 ECF Appearances(and counting)
- 2x Finals Appearance (and counting)
- 1st player to score 51 in a Game 7
- Most 30-PT games in a season in franchise history
- Scored the most points in an ASG
- 1st Celtic to average 30+ PPG
- 3rd in playoff points before turning 27 (needs 180 to pass LeBron in 1st)
- 1st in playoff 3PM before turning 27
- The most wins since entering the league
- The most playoff wins since entering the league
Career stats
23.1 PPG | 7.2 RPG | 4.0 APG | 1.1 SPG |1 BPG | 2.3
TO | 46.0/37.5/84.4% | 58.3 TS | 11,852 Total Pts | 3,670 total Rebounds | 1812 total assists | 563
total STLS | 346 total blks | 1180 total TO | 513
GP
Career playoff stats
38.7 MPG | 24 PPG | 8.0 RPG | 5.0 APG | 1.1 SPG |
1.0 BPG | 2.9 TO | 108 GP | 2574 total Pts | 845
total Reb | 505 total AST | 120 total STLS | 97
total blks | 305 total TO | 44.2/35.5/83.0% | 39
MPG
2022 ECF: W
Tatum - 25/8/6
Butler 25/7/3
2022 ECSF: W
Tatum drops 46/9/4 in a pivotal game 6, down
3-2 on the road vs Giannis and reigning champion bucks, goes on to win the series
Jayson Tatum PPG per season:
2017-18: 13.9
2018-19: 15.7
2019-20: 26.4
2020-21: 26.9
2022-23: 30.1
2023-24: 27.0
Jayson Tatum career high's as a statline:
60 Points | 19 Rebounds | 12 Assists | 6 Blocks | 5
Steals
Only player to score 50+ points in the:
- Regular Season
- All-Star Game
- Play-In Tournament
- Playoffs
Why does the media feel the need to focus on the 2nd best player on a team and the 5th best player of a finals series?
U know how dumb u sound
Bedtime for Bozo
Who were the critics? Cmon now.😂😂😂😂
Not gonna lie Udonis Haslem has very good takes
“Who were the critics?” ESPN!!
Nope, none of the criticisms of the Celtics were unfounded, but they were required in order to help them become champions.
Basically UD said I’m Miami Heat at heart lmao
What they don't know is, the internet hates Tatum. I never see a highlight mixtape, it's always a post shitting on him. Add in the fact that he's young, Jayson is talking about NBA Twitter. Just my take.
Yes he has and the Celtics. All sports should apologize for seriously thinking the Mavs were going to win easily.
The way Perk would talk about Tatum and the Celtics was awful. They beat a team in 5 he was like" they should of swept them". Tatum scores 30, " well he should of had 50" . Tatum leads the team in points rebounds and assists " Jaylen Brown is the best player on the Celtics". The way ESPN covered the team was disgraceful.
Perkins has no pride in his own team.
Nope, that’s how he shows that he cares deeply about the Cs winning. Candid feedback and criticism is required in order to improve. Perk just keeping it real.
I cant wait till we use these receipts next season after we raise Banner 19
We’ll seee. Doncic going to come back like Rocky 3
Relax
People like Foxworth should not be a media member
I feel like im being gaslit this is insane lmao
Tatum was getting skewered all post season while he was in the midst of accomplishing something only 5 other players have ever done. Insane
Tatum shoots 38% fg for the finals series and his team won 4-1.. He is lucky he is surrounded by great talent since he was drafted. Every year he will only need to win 1 or 2 playoff series to win a ring because he is always have great teammates while playing in a weak conference. He doesn't even need to show up to win.
Saying the Mavs had no margin for error as the underdog who were picked by every single “expert” is a great bit of revisionist history from said experts
They might have been betting underdogs which I get btw, but they were the popular choice in 5-6 games on the networks
Ever since Andre Iguodala won the finals mvp that award really means nothing lol, good to have but honestly doesn’t matter, we just want Chips.
Tatum is elite. he is a better version of PG13. he's also become a great leader. He's not necessarily KD, but not far. He is in between PG13 and KD which is amazing. Steph did not win NBA Finals MVP 3 times and he is considered by many a top 10 player. Get over it haters Tatum is now the best SF in the game. SGA, Edwards, Tatum, Giannis, Wemby.
Wemby and Edwards?
True. But PG has been massively over-rated since he entered the league. Devin Booker (I know they’re different positions) would be a better comp. Or Kawai for that matter
@@cjsmith5787 Tatum is basically PG13 if he never got the broken leg.
@@cjsmith5787 Well, I kind of see what you mean. He is past his prime now, but I think I'm saying if you watched a young PG13 when he went 7 games vs. Heat and Lebron in ECF and kind of projecting him before he had that terrible leg break. I think they are pretty similar players overall.
@@jonjones9917 PG13 was in DPOTY candidacy and MVP
Teams were banged up? Each team had 1 player injured, so did the Celtics. They played without Porzingis throughout the entire playoffs and the finals except 1 1/2 games.
Dude shot 38.7% fg in the Finals and padded his stats in the 4th qtr of a 25 pt blowout in garbage time in a desperate attempt to STEAL Finals Mvp from JB. Kobe would be ashamed
Meerkat Mentality
Smh
What was Browns FG% in game 7 of the heat last year when he was the number 1 option after Tatum got hurt? I looked it up... it was lower than 38.7%. Difference is that Brown is not a good playmaker either, and that's why they got blown out that game and got sent home.
@@America2Monaco What is LeTatumBRICKS Fg% in his 11 Finals games combined??
Spoiler: Its less than 40 pct
Dude looks scared on the biggest stage and CHOKES under pressure
UD don’t have enough basketball knowledge as far as information on the Celtics cause he was so worried about the Heat. Tatum never was in a losing situation, Boston was always winning since he’s been drafted. Had Isiah Thomas, Kyrie, Kemba, as PGs.
They all say the catch phrase “what they gonna say now” because YOU as media consistently criticize them (unfairly) for ratings all the time!! At least Dom admits they “have to create story lines.” On top of that, you’re not graceful and quick enough to give them their flowers, apologizing and accepting that y’all were wrong. It’s embarrassing, very.
Why is Dominique Foxworth talking basketball lol
Why not? He was a professional athlete and is a professional pundit. Should female reporters not be allowed to talk men’s sports? I’d much rather hear him talk than you
Didn’t i say i don’t wanna see haslem back on here talkin bout the Celtics after they win ? Come on ESPN do better
No one cares about your opinion. They care about UD’s. 🤫
Here goes the sports media narrative to pin Tatum Vs. Brown, and who's better, and whose team is it. I know they've been doing it, but they're gonna turn up the 🔥
The craziest thing about all this sport commentators is that they give Luka so much grace and stay attacking Jayson
Tatum is 26 old/washed, Luka is 25 young/healthy/strong/resilient/DPOY candite
That's a joke right. Luka whole offense relies on him pushing off and hitting players with his shoulder. If the official would call him, it 25% of his points would be gone. He also plays no defense and always complains.
@@marcusmontague1275 yes it's the classic : Luka is flirting / Tatum is harassment comparison
Jayson Tatum is the current King of Celtics , & Protector of the Realm. J Brown is Jayson's Hand , Holiday Master of War, White Master of Whisperers, KP Lord Commander of the Kings Guard, Horford Master of Laws.
Good thing Brown and Tatum got a good bond. Its a team effort!!
Luka is 25, he is unfairly criticized, Tatum is 26, criticism comes with his position. UD is brain dead…
He was the best player on the Celtics teams statistically in the finals. He played phenomenal defense on Luca. He proved everyone wrong. I’m surprised he did not get MVP but to be honest, nobody cares or remembers MVPs they remember champions. Brown and Tatum can win multiple championships. They are both so good together.
Jaylen Brown got the “Andre Igoudala “ mvp. This will give JT motivation to get his own mvp like Steph did..
38.7% fg is the best statistically?
Too bad reality vehemdntly disagrees with you, STAN
lol
@@dalonzolong7115nah we aren’t gonna do that man. I think Jayson Tatum or jaylen brown could’ve won it
@@Nostalgia9478he lead his team in points, assist, and rebounds while receiving the most attention on the team.
He also played good defense
@@Nick-sr4fe He shot 38.7% pct fg while being a ballhog taking FAR more shots than anyone else on the team and padding his empty stats
Hate only comes from someone in a worse place than you. Keep your head up Kings & Queens. If they’re hating, you must be doing something right!
Why is Steve kerry playing Jason Tatum in the first game of the USA Olympics???
Why is espn like “was the people who criticized him being unfair?” You guys were leading the criticism narratives around him😂
Greeny has been asleep if he doesn't think Tatum has been criticized over the years for faling short in the playoffs.
Jokic led the playoffs in points, rebounds and assists last year. Be leary of Haslem's numbers and facts, they may be inaccurate.
Espn so one sided, when Tatum lost in 2022 at the same age as Luka yall criticised him but its different for Luka "he's young, he grow" bs
True. This episode has been better than the past few weeks though. Hopefully they continue to get better
UD don’t have enough basketball knowledge as far as information on the Celtics cause he was so worried about the Heat
He has. Like Steph, he beat everyone but Steph yet get flack. Make that make sense
It doesn't make any sense. Chips is the only thing that matters. Who cares if he shot poorly in the Finals? "Clutch" is not a real metric that matters. Winning is.
Except Steph has always been the Bus Driver, while Bus Riding LeTatumBRICK is JBs SIDEKICK
@@Nostalgia9478wild corny
@@King__Tone wild corndog
@@Nostalgia9478So why go get KD if your the driver🧐
ESPN acting like the goal of sports is to be the next MJ. The goal of sports is to win championships.
where's all the Luka criticism, ESPN?
Ppl saying the east was weak but the Celtics been one of the best teams in the east for the past 5 plus years and beat. every team in the east. Mfs sounds dumb saying everyone was hurt
I don’t understand the double standards when it comes to Luka. Y’all ripped Tatum apart as a 24 year old and held it against him up until Sunday for what he did in his finals and pretty much banned him from the top 5 because of it but turn around and say Lukas young he’ll get better. Nobody ever mentions how the Celtics wouldn’t be near what they are without Tatum but we’re doing that for Luka. Criticized Tatum for not winning it all despite his personal statistics and now that he’s won it all we’re moving the goalposts to now he needs the personal accolades but Lukas place in the league hasn’t budged after being the main target on defense and mid offensively meanwhile he hasn’t won half as much as Tatum has. Just doesn’t make sense to me
Not a good comp. That’s why. Luka has never anointed himself the best player in the world either
@@cjsmith5787 maybe when Luka is talking to his 5-year-old son after winning an NBA title he can make the same claim.
They are literally just bringing UD to hate on the Celtics dont think hes given a non bias answer when asked about them since hes been on ESPN
Everyone at espn “ok guys, the Celtics won, how do we slander jayson tatum now. Also the Mavs just lost the finals 4-1 I guess we have to find something to criticize luka about finally.
tatum > melo all time
Lamelo ball fasho 😭
@@coolbreeze4249 Tatum is better than carmelo anthony, Melo didnt even dominate the game after he leave Nuggets, and thats just 5 years
@@coolbreeze4249Carmelo Anthony as well
@@lorddj9910 not even close 😂
@@coolbreeze4249 you need to stop talking ball bro
Show all the clips of Stephen A saying they should be broken up one needs to be traded because it won’t work
Kendrick Perkins too
He did better in the eastern conference finals and finals. The media has no story so they needed to create one with him. Just evil. He was the mvp of both rounds.
I’ve never seen a player get criticized for not being the best player on his team after scoring 31 in a close out game to win the Chip. Ever. Why do they keep talking about that? They didn’t do that to Steph, KG, DWade. It’s weird.
With Steph and KD they did. And kd had wayyyyyy more noise around him. They need talking points, and the jury is still out on JT when it comes to most fans and pundits alike. JT isn’t crying. Why are some of his fans?
Mannn ESPN is A JOKE give all the rights to TNT
ESPN, please get rid of Udonis Haslem.
Haslem is a really good analyst
Haslem hating like he was ever any good in his career 😂😂😂
UH should never be allowed to answer questions about the Celtics.
Yeah, 6'ft'7'' and doing layups and jumpers will get you criticised!
Moses Malone knows about getting in shape because he was skinny when he played for my Spirits of St Louis team and lost their last game in the ABA. Next time I saw him (in the NBA) he was called Chairman of The Boards because Artis Gilmore told him he needed more booty.
Greeny is a Jets fan😂 nobody should take his word seriously
All the criticism is fair game when you shoot 32% 💀💀💀
Thats what double teams are designed to do. You dumb kids think scoring is the only aspect of the game.
He shot 39% in the finals, his 3 ball killed him
Just a casual Tatum hater. He impacted the game in so many other ways than scoring and efficiency. Stop box score watching and learn the game of basketball
Brown shot like 34% in game 7 vs the heat last year when Tatum went down. He also had 8 turnovers, and Boston got blown out.
@@neddane898Tatum defenders say what you say about 3rd option players “the intangibles” he stat padded in blowouts in Finals and was hitting wide open people for easy Assists because Dallas plays terrible defense and he still throwing up bricks at 38%
People complain about Luka's defense at least as much as about his constant looking for fouls
The 86 Celtics had 67 wins not 65 Zach!
To answer the question with a question “Did the Bucks become a dynasty after one championship?”😅
Tatum has NOT silenced me! He was lucky to be on a talented team, because he was throwing up BRICKS all series, because he's a soft choker. Until he plays well in big moments, I can't call him "great".
Tatum tried so hard to squeeze a 😢 out and couldn’t 😂
Fake humble act from a fake superstar
Yes Tatum has been unfairly criticized by the trash talking heads in sports media and the dumb kids that think they know ball on social media. Its gone beyond criticism and into the realm of hate.
Real hoop heads and actual basketball analysts have been fair and always gave him credit for the player he is.
recency bias is crazy. A lot of the teams the celtics face or didnt face were injured beyond repair. Celtics faced an injured pacers, without Haliubrton and they kept the game place without Hali. The Celtics didnt face a healthy Heat first round, didnt face a healthy Knicks, who are dangerous with a full squad, faced an injured Cavaliers, like no, they are not dominant. They're team is stacked, but they were not battle proven facing tough opponents. They constatnly got the best draw of cards facing the teams they did. Its the league, I dont blame them for facing who they face, but they were really fortunate they each team that could've gave them trouble, had their best players injured. If the Celtics faced a healthy Knicks or Healthy Heat, this would be a much different discussion. Lets not forget what Butler did last year, and previous years. He's owned them a lot of the times, but because a lot of teams that Celtics faced were injured, now their the most dominant Celtics ever? im sorry who did they actually face, and play and have their backs against the wall to get here? they didnt face true adversity casue the teams they faced were so hurt, the competition was not there. So quick to forget. And listen, they dominated the Mavs, so i give them that. But no, a lot of their competition got hurt. Face a healthy Heat next team and dont go down 3-2 and then lets talk. Start there.
Wrote all this nonsense to be dead wrong.
You may have heard of Porzingis - you realize he was injured ALL playoffs right?
You realize the Celtics had one of the MOST dominant regular seasons of all time as well right? That includes smashing the Heat WITH Butler multiple times. This wasn’t the same Celtics team as last year.
You realize 89% of bettors picked the Mavs to win right? Now all of a sudden the Celtics didn’t face any competition?
FYI, the Celtics were 4-1 in the games Haliburton and Mitchell played. Those games were ALL without their all-star starting Center.
Sit this one out kid.
agree to disagree dog, be cool, and be easy
Luka will get a championship for sure in the next 3 years
As long as his front office puts in the work...
UD is part of the twerking team now.
Y’all were treating him like a 35 year old who couldn’t get over the hump all season shameless network
Udonis Haslem hates the Celtics, his takes on Tatum, creating storylines he never accomplished himself, are so off and will never admit the Boston Celtics GREATNESS! 🤡
Someone said JT/JB are like 11/12th best players in league. Well it’s a shame the top 10 couldn’t stop them lmao. Can they stop them next year
This ring doesn't count because half of the league's "superstars" have poor availability. - "The entire internet"
@@jonjones9917The best ability is availability. The media keeps blaming the Celtics for having the only stars in the league that aren't fragile. And Boston's all star center was hurt the whole playoffs.