Thanks PJ for another great bow review! Thanks for speed testing comfort. Love your upbeat attitude whether you’re shooting junk or the best stuff out there! Just stating the facts!
Bowtech and Mathews has had me since 2001 but this year will be the first time ever im buying PSE Mach 33.... ive never once thought PSE has had the bow of the year but this mach 33 draws smoother and its faster or as fast as bowtech and it has the better paint job over mathews and bowtech this year. Its hard to believe im buying a PSE but ill buy the better bow.
This is the only bow so far thats been released for 2025 that has my interest. I dont need a new bow, but damn this thing is about perfect for my preferences.
Actually they are quite different. On the mathews the cam stays stationary and the limb moves. Both systems are nice and do the job but I do like the fact that the mathews system doesn't change your center shot.
Hey PJ, I would think anyone considering this bow would want to know if Bowtech did any changes to the cam angle that eats servings (SS34)? Didn't hear you say anything about that....
I had a ss34 and it was a good shooter... But it ate cable serving alive. Do you guys know if they updated the cam system so it wont tear up the cables?
@@duncansisson657 that’s right. If everyone would just leave the overpriced bows and equipment on the shelves for a couple years then the prices would come down. It will never happen though. Hunters won’t stick together. Too worried about someone killing “their” deer or being 2 ft. per second faster than the bow from last season. All these companies are just price gouging bowhunters because they got to have the latest and greatest.
@@optimuscrime608how do you figure not close to the x I just switched to the elite ethos and I have been shooting Mathew’s sence the mq1 and Mathew’s doesn’t compare to the elite ethos 1/4 inch draw adjustments up to 90% let off no bow press to adjust paper tear .and I can see bowtech is right there with elite . Playing with those 1/4 inch draw length and let off can make all the difference how good you shoot .and that’s coming from a diehard Mathew’s guy until now. And to me there is no better grip then elite , Hoyt is close . Mathew’s better get going to catch up with elite Hoyt and bowtech.
I was kinda of excited to see what Bowtech was coming out with for 2025, but the excitement instantly disappeared when I seen the same bows from 2 years ago, don’t get me wrong they were nice two years ago but I would like to see something new, maybe next year 😂
I’m a bow tech shooter I have been happy with my bow tech but all these screws look like it’s opening up a world of things to get loose or go wrong on a hunt at the worst moment
Im going to drill all my bowtechs out for Pictiny rail for the bow sight, to be honest im just going to put it on all my bows for the sights and the legs. Mathews and bowtech both sights are dumb as shit. The rail looks so much cooler.
😂😂😂 I'm sorry PJ, I know this is your job, but my lift 33 is shooting spectacular. Looking forward to your opinoon on this rig. Based on JJs response, this could be a seller. Stiffer draw and faster than it's prefacessor
No magnesium riser flagship bow, no #75, #80 limbs, only two bows unless you count the latest Eva Shockey bow......???? Sorry Bowtech you are falling short in 2025! I have been a bowtech fan and supporter back to the 82nd Airborne. Currently have a invasion cpx, reign 6 and sr350. Really was hoping for a magnesium riser like their Honor bow.
All them options are available still on different bows by bowtech. You had your chance to buy an honor and you didn’t. Bowtechs leading the way and far ahead of the completion, well beside darton.
@therman6813 for $4000???? Where are the 75 lb. Limbs available? What the sx 80? It's slower than my SR 350. Look, I am a Bowtech fan. I am just saying that compared to other releases, so far, they fell short. Just my opinion. I think a regular consumer version of the magnesium alloy riser would be a big hit. Yes, I would buy an honor if you could buy just the bow. I am not interested in paying for a "package."
Figured they would have updated it to the Athens style since they caused Athens to go out of business theirs was a cleaner looking design compared to Bowtechs
They protected their intellectual property as literally any savy business would do. Athens assured they did their homework and were in the clear and ended up taking a bunch of orders on bows that dealers took a bath on. Being a smaller business doesn't mean you get to make poor business decisions and come out unscathed
I just switched from shooting Mathew’s sence the mq1 to the elite ethos and never shot better now I might buy this bowteach and compare it with the ethos which I love .but that Bowtech is very tempting.
Thanks PJ for another great bow review! Thanks for speed testing comfort.
Love your upbeat attitude whether you’re shooting junk or the best stuff out there! Just stating the facts!
Thanks PJ, great video. Nice to see a bow manufacturer have a bow rating that's very close to actual for once!!
Glad to see they went back to the same concept as the SS34. A bit heavy, but as a western hunter, I tend to mass up for longer shots.
This bow hits ibo tuned.
The reflex on this bow is excellent.
YET ANOTHER AWESOME VIDEO PRESENTATION JP !!!!
Bowtech and Mathews has had me since 2001 but this year will be the first time ever im buying PSE Mach 33.... ive never once thought PSE has had the bow of the year but this mach 33 draws smoother and its faster or as fast as bowtech and it has the better paint job over mathews and bowtech this year. Its hard to believe im buying a PSE but ill buy the better bow.
This is the only bow so far thats been released for 2025 that has my interest. I dont need a new bow, but damn this thing is about perfect for my preferences.
Mathew’s x is a similar cam adjustment. Ordered one yesterday.
Actually they are quite different. On the mathews the cam stays stationary and the limb moves. Both systems are nice and do the job but I do like the fact that the mathews system doesn't change your center shot.
Are the cams the same as the SS34?
Hey PJ, I would think anyone considering this bow would want to know if Bowtech did any changes to the cam angle that eats servings (SS34)? Didn't hear you say anything about that....
I had a ss34 and it was a good shooter... But it ate cable serving alive. Do you guys know if they updated the cam system so it wont tear up the cables?
Why did they stop making the centre mass thru the risers sights ?
They wanted to pull even more weight to the center of the riser - for optimized balance.
Good review. I wanna test shoot that bow.
You can put a peep in at full draw or on a draw board 😉
I wouldn't recommend that.
When and which models did Bowtech start with the time lock feature?
The 2024 flagship model bows were the first to utilize the TimeLock system.
What’s the difference between the ss34 and this apart from the 2 cams, time lock and the grip
Nothing
Wish Mathew’s would do a treestand package for their bows. That would be sweet
You’re exactly right! 👍🏼It would cost another $799.99 added to the final price if they did. 😂
@ if they would do the sight, stabilizer, quiver and rest for 799 they would sell a lot more
@@duncansisson657 They offer it now but everything with the new lift x is $3500 plus tax
@@duncansisson657 that’s right. If everyone would just leave the overpriced bows and equipment on the shelves for a couple years then the prices would come down. It will never happen though. Hunters won’t stick together. Too worried about someone killing “their” deer or being 2 ft. per second faster than the bow from last season. All these companies are just price gouging bowhunters because they got to have the latest and greatest.
Love pj.
Us, too.
Which one would you choose, the SS34 or the Proven? Is the SS34 still available?
The proven 34 has the timing and grip feature that the ss34 doesn't have.
SS34 is what I chose.
😂😂😂 less than 50 seconds in and PJ foesnt even seem to excited.
I was thinking the same thing.
He’s a Mathews guy. And it’s hard to be excited when it’s no where near the lift X
@@optimuscrime608how do you figure not close to the x I just switched to the elite ethos and I have been shooting Mathew’s sence the mq1 and Mathew’s doesn’t compare to the elite ethos 1/4 inch draw adjustments up to 90% let off no bow press to adjust paper tear .and I can see bowtech is right there with elite . Playing with those 1/4 inch draw length and let off can make all the difference how good you shoot .and that’s coming from a diehard Mathew’s guy until now. And to me there is no better grip then elite , Hoyt is close . Mathew’s better get going to catch up with elite Hoyt and bowtech.
He’s not excited because he knows Mathew’s is way behind the eight ball compared to elite Hoyt bowtech.
@thomasvanderhoff768 that's the truth.
I was kinda of excited to see what Bowtech was coming out with for 2025, but the excitement instantly disappeared when I seen the same bows from 2 years ago, don’t get me wrong they were nice two years ago but I would like to see something new, maybe next year 😂
I have to think bow shops are a bit concerned about rigs that can be set up by Joe Public weekend archer at home with out a press…
Not really. They just mess it up so bad they still need to bring it in to us.
I’m a bow tech shooter I have been happy with my bow tech but all these screws look like it’s opening up a world of things to get loose or go wrong on a hunt at the worst moment
What extra screws?
Im going to drill all my bowtechs out for Pictiny rail for the bow sight, to be honest im just going to put it on all my bows for the sights and the legs. Mathews and bowtech both sights are dumb as shit. The rail looks so much cooler.
I’d buy a BowTech if they offered 1/4” DL adjustment and a picatinny mount. Maybe 2026
I micro tune my drawing length using Timelock, think about it, moving the time lock posts up and down shorten / lengthen the drawing length
@ I think they have 1/4” DL on some target bows, I was hoping they would find their way to the flagship hunting bows.
Lucky draw stops! Problem solved
😂😂😂 I'm sorry PJ, I know this is your job, but my lift 33 is shooting spectacular. Looking forward to your opinoon on this rig. Based on JJs response, this could be a seller. Stiffer draw and faster than it's prefacessor
Decision, decisions, 2025 BowTech, Darton, or Mathews 🤷🏻♂️
None of the above and every other bow this year I'm unimpressed
I'll make sure to let all the guys at Bowtech, Mathews, Darton, Elite, Hoyt, and PSE know that @davemartin660 isn't impressed.
Now tech looks killer this year
Odd they only put out 1 bow…
*2 bows. The Solution LS is the other.
No magnesium riser flagship bow, no #75, #80 limbs, only two bows unless you count the latest Eva Shockey bow......???? Sorry Bowtech you are falling short in 2025! I have been a bowtech fan and supporter back to the 82nd Airborne. Currently have a invasion cpx, reign 6 and sr350. Really was hoping for a magnesium riser like their Honor bow.
All them options are available still on different bows by bowtech. You had your chance to buy an honor and you didn’t. Bowtechs leading the way and far ahead of the completion, well beside darton.
@therman6813 for $4000???? Where are the 75 lb. Limbs available? What the sx 80? It's slower than my SR 350. Look, I am a Bowtech fan. I am just saying that compared to other releases, so far, they fell short. Just my opinion. I think a regular consumer version of the magnesium alloy riser would be a big hit. Yes, I would buy an honor if you could buy just the bow. I am not interested in paying for a "package."
I'm still waiting for that unobtainium riser with 120# limbs
@@LancasterArcherySupply is this an attempt a humor or just being a smarta$$?
@@v.hillegass4351 yes i would have bought just the bare bow honor also. It looks fantastic. Checks all the boxes .
No 80# draw weight? WTH?
Sx80????
@therman6813 I want it on the Proven
@@michaelvstheworld3680are you hunting cape buffalo?
@danielfetchak1865 just squirrels
Figured they would have updated it to the Athens style since they caused Athens to go out of business theirs was a cleaner looking design compared to Bowtechs
Waaah Athens were crooks and screwed their customers and dealers over because they stole someone's patented idea, waaaah
Athens’ irresponsible business model stealing legally protected IP put Athens out of business.
Agreed brother. I get sales, but they were a small shop compared to bowtech. Idk why their didn't just license it out since it was familiar to theirs.
They protected their intellectual property as literally any savy business would do. Athens assured they did their homework and were in the clear and ended up taking a bunch of orders on bows that dealers took a bath on. Being a smaller business doesn't mean you get to make poor business decisions and come out unscathed
I just switched from shooting Mathew’s sence the mq1 to the elite ethos and never shot better now I might buy this bowteach and compare it with the ethos which I love .but that Bowtech is very tempting.
first!
What an honor
@johnchilders8617 yes,even if you do say so yourself 😅
What an honor
😂😂😂 it isn't that serious G
R U certain?