Sonatine is the best movies ever... by far. The editing is so unconventional and mesmerising. Creates unique feelings and cold estrangement. The final car sequence with the suicide is sublime. I just love the long close-up and that unreal moments of suspension until Takeshi takes the gun.
I'll be honest, I only recently watched this movie for the first time a few months ago after I got curious seeing Kitano in Ghost in the Shell, I let it stew for a bit, and I can honestly say, I think it's a top-10 film for me, and it made me a diehard Takeshi Kitano fan. He really is one of the most influential directors of all-time. Some of his movies always make me feel melancholic, Hana-bi, Kikujiro... So many relatable stories... This scene when I saw it for the first time, it really struck a chord; It's so beautifully sad when you understand the emotional baggage and psychological mindstate of Kitano's character. I hope everyone reading this finds meaning and happiness, don't waste your lives to crippling apathy. Life is too precious. 🙏
I love the subtle anti violence message on this scene. Every moment is masterful but to me the most important image is that of the young guy who was willing to avenge the Yakuza's whom he shared his exile, even though he didn't really knew them and ignoring the fact that they were violent people who met violent deaths, he would've been killed just like them in the future feeding the nonsensical cicle of violence; but then something unexpected happens when he witness TRUE VIOLENCE and end up running scared instead, breaking the cicle. Kitano's poetry at his best.
The small sequence of shots at 1:48 is brilliant. Starting off on Murawaka's blank expression but gradually pulling back and fading away until all we can see is the explosive muffle flash of his assault rifle . As though he has literally become physically subsumed by his own vengeance.
My insight: Similar to the "even if I claim my revenge, will I be able to go on living?" theme in Oldboy, the scene is captured from the outside, away from the violence and bloodshed, as a way of saying that, though he's getting his revenge, it's not reviving the ones lost. Infact, not only this, but it does absolutely nothing. Now, in his final moments, after being hell bent on revenge and rightfully taking it, he sits alone thinking, "What now?" In one, spontaneous and depressing moment, he concludes that he's fulfilled his only wants ; vengeance. So there's no point in living anymore. And so he kills himself.
I think that he died in the gunfight, with this final scene deciding whether he wants to be with the girl or to throw his life away. Shooting himself is proof of his choice. Whether or not he survived the fight didn’t matter.
Have anybody else noticed that the music in the movie is slightly better that in OST? It has something more to it. Still, great music from Joe Hisaishi.
Every once and a while there comes someone great that shows the world his or her true talent and shines if I remember he was a janitor who filled in for a lead who was sick that day and got discovered I should of been a thespian with an L .ha ha
The soundtrack is very reminiscent of 'The Long Good Friday' -- famous British Gangster movie. Barrie Keefe wrote the script - I was lucky to spend a couple of weeks with him as a tutor on a writing retreat once. Wish you could rent these Japanese movies easier on YT or itunes!! So difficult to find them online.
The way i look at it is that he got expelled from his Yakuza family, then they sent guys over to kill him and his companions, so he takes revenge by killing everyone responsable, Because of this he knows he can't return to main land Japan without getting killed himself, so he decides to end it all instead of living a life in fear with imminent death,
@@cookiemasta1658 No. Because as he says earlier in the movie when you live always in fear you end wishing death. So he changed his mind, he wanted to go back to the girl but he suddenly decided he preferred to die.
何十回も観てるけど、毎回この音楽流れ始める瞬間で鳥肌立つ。
映画史上最強のクライマックスだと思う。
唯一買ったサントラ、戦メリより好きなサントラ。一番聞いたサントラ、沖縄が舞台だけど寒い感じが好き。
タケシ監督が後日言った「銃撃シーンが安っぽくて、もう少し上手くできたら良かった」むしろ私は、部屋の天井や車に反射する閃光は勿論、対峙した敵が撃ち殺され飾り気なく倒れて画面から消えるシンプルな演出がとても好きだ。
初めて観たときの衝撃に戻りたいなぁ…
Sonatine is the best movies ever... by far. The editing is so unconventional and mesmerising. Creates unique feelings and cold estrangement. The final car sequence with the suicide is sublime. I just love the long close-up and that unreal moments of suspension until Takeshi takes the gun.
北野映画を母国語で堪能できる幸せ。日本に生まれてよかった理由の一つでもある。
情報や人の流れがあまりに速い時代になって、現実生活でも表現活動でも、成熟した「間」、精神的にゆとりのある行間表現が著しく減った。もしくは受容する側がファンタジーとして追いやって白けてしまうようになった。いや、震災などを見ても、人々の共感能力自体が減退して表層的で、もはや精神活動自体の危機にすら感じることがある。
「ソナチネ」を観ていると、それらの端境に立って表現する潔さ、バランスの絶妙さが際立っていると思う。皮肉、ファンタジー、虚無、成熟、暴力、おかしさ、全てが味わい深い。
I'll be honest, I only recently watched this movie for the first time a few months ago after I got curious seeing Kitano in Ghost in the Shell, I let it stew for a bit, and I can honestly say, I think it's a top-10 film for me, and it made me a diehard Takeshi Kitano fan. He really is one of the most influential directors of all-time. Some of his movies always make me feel melancholic, Hana-bi, Kikujiro... So many relatable stories... This scene when I saw it for the first time, it really struck a chord; It's so beautifully sad when you understand the emotional baggage and psychological mindstate of Kitano's character.
I hope everyone reading this finds meaning and happiness, don't waste your lives to crippling apathy. Life is too precious. 🙏
Gaspillez là plutôt dans l'empathie.
🙇
violent cop
boiling point
a scene at the sea
初期のやつも見てな。凄いから
この晴れ過ぎず曇り過ぎない独特の空がいいよね
まるでこの組長の常日頃、心に抱いてる心情を暗示しているかのようで
もう何年も前の作品だけど、ソナチネと血と骨は今だに繰り返し繰り返し観てます。
そして、実際に沖縄に移住して早20年。
血と骨は途中で見るのやめたなー
Watched this so many times. Pure poetry in a cinematic form.
I love the subtle anti violence message on this scene. Every moment is masterful but to me the most important image is that of the young guy who was willing to avenge the Yakuza's whom he shared his exile, even though he didn't really knew them and ignoring the fact that they were violent people who met violent deaths, he would've been killed just like them in the future feeding the nonsensical cicle of violence; but then something unexpected happens when he witness TRUE VIOLENCE and end up running scared instead, breaking the cicle. Kitano's poetry at his best.
you think too much
@@jeremyh9841 better to think then not at all
@@jeremyh9841 👶🧠
thats anything but subtle
simply one of the best scene of all time
銃撃戦の動きを無くして平面的に見せることで歴史絵巻の中にいるような事実だけ見せられている感じがして不思議なんだよなぁ
銃撃戦での敵が平面的でペラペラでパタパタと倒れていく様は、紙相撲のシーンでも示唆してるかのように、人間なんてこんなに簡単に死んじゃうんだよって見せられてるような感じもしたかな。
勝村が真顔で本気で恐怖を感じて逃げて行くシーンが何とも言えない
何とも言えないのと同時に、お前だけは生き残れたんやな...
と少し感慨深くもなったりしました。
BGMが異様なまでの狂気と恐怖を煽っているだけでも怖さを感じるが、たけしが自害したと同時に急にBGMがストップしたシーンでさらに恐怖と虚無感を引き出している。北野監督はじめこの映画を作ったスタッフは卓越したセンスと感性がある
このBGMの冒頭ってブギーマンのBGMに何となく似ている。怖さを感じるコードってあるんでしょうね。
I like her expression while she waits on the roadside. She knows that he wasn't coming back.
The small sequence of shots at 1:48 is brilliant. Starting off on Murawaka's blank expression but gradually pulling back and fading away until all we can see is the explosive muffle flash of his assault rifle . As though he has literally become physically subsumed by his own vengeance.
勝村政信をヤクザ役にキャスティングするセンスが素晴らしい
ここまで奥深い感情を刺激された映画を見たことがない
何度も観ていると悲しくなる。あれだけ部下と砂浜で楽しく遊んでいたのに一人また一人と消えていき、最後は現地の組員と彼女だけ。最後、車内でのたけしの表情を見れば何とも言えない感情が湧いてくる。
何度見ても、車の屋根に反射される銃の光が秀逸
90年代に輝く欲望と独特の発砲の光
I honestly thought that it was going to end to the sound of gunshots without revealing whether or not Mr. Murakawa survived. What a great movie.
so happy I took new asian cinema in college.Kitano, you are brilliant!!!!
セリフがほとんどなくても色々感じ取れる それがキタノブルー
This. One of my favorite directors and one of my favorite composers.
何年かぶりの何度めかの視聴をしたがこのエンディングも含めてヤクザ映画の表層とは裏腹にこんなに静謐で哲学的で心の深層をえぐる映画だったんだなとあらためて感じました。ここではカットされてるが寺島進さんが暗殺されたあの浜辺のその後の朽ち果てた木造船と風に揺れる草木が印象的
(..)だね(..)だ(ﾟ∀ﾟ*)！よね！寝るべ( ω-、)
たけしも素晴らしいけど、久石の音楽がより冷たい空気作ってるのが素晴らしい
この映像を観てこの音楽聴くと涙が流れてしまうのはなぜ？
感受性が強いんだと思います。石垣島かな。撮影は確か。南国なんだけど寒々しくて圧倒されました。僕は。
Muzzle flash on a black car
sorrowful music
One of Takeshi Kitano's masterpieces.
i too think that this is one of the coolest scenes ever shot on film
One of my all-time favorite films.
張り詰めた緊張感の直後の独特の虚無感 素晴らしすぎる 仮にこの映画が子供というものを描いている面があるならば 遊びの後のさっきまで遊んでいた事が嘘のように感じるあの感覚に似ている 今までのものが全て無くなり、後には何も残らないという「死」そのものを絶妙に表している
Ok トゥリ
夏休みなんかに親戚の家行って帰った後の何日間か、普段の友達とすら遊ぶ気起きないあの空虚感思い出した、
根拠なく全部嫌になって投げ出したい感覚…
この映画の中でたけしはずっと遊んでたんだろうね。砂浜での紙相撲や花火や野球は勿論そうだし、冒頭のクレーンのシーンやスナックでの撃ち合いやロシアンルーレットなんかも全部遊び。
本当に好き
いま見ると、このカリーナEDいい色だな…
当時のたけしの心象風景を表したかのような空の色。これ以上はもうない。
My insight:
Similar to the "even if I claim my revenge, will I be able to go on living?" theme in Oldboy, the scene is captured from the outside, away from the violence and bloodshed, as a way of saying that, though he's getting his revenge, it's not reviving the ones lost. Infact, not only this, but it does absolutely nothing.
Now, in his final moments, after being hell bent on revenge and rightfully taking it, he sits alone thinking, "What now?"
In one, spontaneous and depressing moment, he concludes that he's fulfilled his only wants ; vengeance. So there's no point in living anymore. And so he kills himself.
There will be always something to live for
Great analysis!
I think that he died in the gunfight, with this final scene deciding whether he wants to be with the girl or to throw his life away. Shooting himself is proof of his choice. Whether or not he survived the fight didn’t matter.
勝村政信さん演ずる
中松組組員・良二が
この作品における唯一の生き残りです。
良二、生き延びろよ！
散っていった仲間達の分迄
幸せを掴めよ！
別の映画ですが、ザ・バットマンの終盤でもマズルフラッシュで人物や部屋の構造がチカチカ映るシーンがあって、このソナチネを鮮烈に思い出しました。
映画館で見た時は2人しかいなかったんだよね。すごい映画なのに。
ラストシーンで登場する軽トラのブレーキランプが片方球切れ起こしているのが印象的
良いですね。数十年ぶり、このラストシ一ン拝見。🙏誰も撮れない。美しい、在るところの風景。
あの絢爛豪華なバブルの時代に、こんな暗い映画を作ったのか
制作時にはもうバブルは崩壊してますね...
制作時は１９９２年の夏ぐらいのはず。
たけちゃん自体は、４０代半ばで
軍団を食わせなならんわ、忙しいわ、家庭はいろいろあるわで
鬱気味だったのではなかろうかな。 陰鬱とした、暗い部分でモヤモヤとしていたのだろう・・・
実は見かけ以上に金がかかっててトラブルになってるんだよなあ。
@@user-zg9kj8hg8r製作費5億、興行収入5000万円だっけ
M16（？）のカットはご愛嬌。サイクルレート考えりゃこんな連続射撃はありえないけど、これはあくまでも映画的「表現」。スカッとする。北野監督の、死生観、青い沖縄の空と海、ラストの暗く重い空の対比。エンディングまで緊張感を盛り上げる久石音楽。北野作品の中では、この作品が一番好き。
細かい事言うな… 糞オタ
ヒートでも観てろ
Simple yet powerful sequence
the perfect ending
Loving the movie and the OST!
Last pictures are like a painting...
たけしさん世代ではないですが
その男凶暴につきをbsでたまたまやってるのを見てからハマりました
This is in my top ten movies of all time for sure, from start to finish a great film, and very over looked
ソナチネの久石譲による音楽と、流れるように綺麗な描写このふたつが凄いと思う
映画館で見たかったな、しばらく立ち上がれなくなりそう
Un chef d' oeuvre du cinéma japonais - Domo arigato gozaimashita -
何か…すごく沖縄に行きたくなったよ
自分が死ぬ前にこの映画見ようと思う
たけしさんのプロ意識 志 需要に応える勤勉さを学ばないといけない たけしさん 有難う
コメント見ると分かるけど細部まで見てる人は見てるる。そこが１度やったら辞められない監督業の魅力かも。
最期に一体何を考えていたのかな。
楽しみにしてたんだと思うよ
死ってあっけない事をヤクザで学んだから
He kind of look like my dad 😄..like this movie a lot...my brother we use to watch this movie together
amazing
たけしが顔色ひとつ変えずに銃をぶっ放してるあたりから、ただならぬ恐怖と狂気を感じます😨
美しい。
다케시 영화 중 최고. 엔딩 정말 좋습니다
Yes, this version is better musically than the OST !
incredible score
Is there anytime where Beat Takeshi is not such an amazing boss?
Сонатина Мой Любимый Фильм!) Такеши Китано Потрясающий!)
This Is art !!
KITANO IS THE BEST OF THE BEST!
正に、世界のキタノの真骨頂！
沖縄の暑さを感じさせない程どこか涼しさがある映画。
The woman is so beautiful!!😍
Memorable scene!
il mio film preferito...ne ho addirittura tatuato il nome sul braccio
超神作!
Excellent film, superbe musique, acteur dans la peau du personnage 👌👌👍👍
理由なんか探しちゃダメ何でしょうね、感覚で魅せるキタノブルー
Have anybody else noticed that the music in the movie is slightly better that in OST? It has something more to it. Still, great music from Joe Hisaishi.
That happens with almost every movie soundtrack.
I think it's a difference in how it's mastered for the movie vs by itself
Masterpiece
At 4:07 you can see him breathe a little.
自死がカタルシスになる映画ってソナチネだけじゃないかな？
ラストが決して悲劇的では無く、むしろ喜びにも映る。
だからこそこの映画は評価されるのかもね。
これ、音楽の入り方が昔の昭和のドラマのエンディングとよく似てる
This scene sounds so melancolic. Its sure that Kitano has suicidal thoughts.
he actually tried to kill himself in 1994
@@videoestres i can feel that
普通にM16持ってテクテク歩く殿が恐いのなんのてw
Every once and a while there comes someone great that shows the world his or her true talent and shines if I remember he was a janitor who filled in for a lead who was sick that day and got discovered I should of been a thespian with an L .ha ha
Kitano? I think you got that mixed up, he was a big name Japanese comedian before going into film
青い洋服、青いタンク、青い車。
He keeps suiciding to reborn in next film
Arte pura
Palese
Fucking epic ending to an epic film
漫画ヒミズ を読むとソナチネをいつも思い出す
逆ももちろん
Let’s not go to far into the BEST SCENE EVER. It’s great but let’s remember… suicide is badass, that’s what makes this scene. Legends must die
The soundtrack is very reminiscent of 'The Long Good Friday' -- famous British Gangster movie. Barrie Keefe wrote the script - I was lucky to spend a couple of weeks with him as a tutor on a writing retreat once. Wish you could rent these Japanese movies easier on YT or itunes!! So difficult to find them online.
Jestem z Polski🇵🇱 i lubię Japonie 🇯🇵 i filmy Ketano
勝村政信って蜷川の「昭和歌謡大全集」でも最後まで生き残る役なんだよな・・・。
そういう役ってわかってて北野監督も役を割り当ててたのかな・・・。
So poetic!
The way i look at it is that he got expelled from his Yakuza family, then they sent guys over to kill him and his companions, so he takes revenge by killing everyone responsable,
Because of this he knows he can't return to main land Japan without getting killed himself, so he decides to end it all instead of living a life in fear with imminent death,
Why Kitano always keep killing himself in his movies
He's Japanese Sean Bean
He has nothing left and no buddy left
bcz cops will put him in jail and yakuza members will torture and kill him for their friends killed from m4a1 by Kitano?
@@cookiemasta1658 No. Because as he says earlier in the movie when you live always in fear you end wishing death. So he changed his mind, he wanted to go back to the girl but he suddenly decided he preferred to die.
@@99nessuno99 because he would be arrested put in jail and killed by yakuza.
And I agree with you guys about the ST, this is much better for some reason
死ぬことが怖くない。故に強い。
敵の巣窟に一人で乗り込み、飛騨を恐れずぼっ立ちで乱射。まともではない。
easily as good as hana-bi or kikujiro
女性の服の柄にさえ何かの効果がありそうに見えてくる(語彙力すみません)
「ここも青か」と思うと同時に、単に青一色のワンピースより趣がある。南国風なのだと言われたらそれまでだが。
医療関係者ですが特に老齢に限って細かいどうでもいいことにウジウジごにゃごにゃほざく人間がこの国には意外に多く、理不尽なクレームに対応することがある。そんな時は心の中でソナチネ見て勉強やり直せト呟いている。特に男は現実や自分にしがみついて固執することは見苦しい。入院している病院で献身的に働くスタッフに文句を言ったりする。ソナチネの登場人物たちはいい訳せず、無駄に喋らず、避けられる災いも避けずに犬猫のように死んでいく。それが美しい。老い先短いじいさんは残りの時間を自分で汚す前に黙って死ね。死ぬ間際にまだ生きる人間を嫌な気持ちにさせるな。おれはそのように死ぬ。
あの？まだ生きてますか？😂
情緒がありますね 独特の