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Redshift Kitchen Sink Handlebar System UNBOXING
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- Опубліковано 16 сер 2024
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Please smell all products going forward and give comparable smells, I love it!
Thanks Russ! 5 hours later I’d have my Redshift bars set up...and then I’d notice I’d forgot my cabling...
The kitchen sink bar drops pretty much are at the same hight for the rider, since the top bar has a rise, no?! You basically have a taller straight bar position. Super smart. Looks like a great line of products.
I added the bars to my road bike. 47cm, seemed extra wide. After a 5 hour ride I can say that I loved the feel! Made the bike super comfy! Felt great with standing climbing, seated riding and just all around awesome! Had to lengthen both brake cables and housings (a bit of a pain) but well worth the effort! Added top grips and wrapped with a regular roll of bar tape. Also have the redshift suspension seatpost. Both of these turned my road bike into a fast comfy couch!
I haven't installed mine yet but I'm excited to! I got the loop version. Sweetness!
Thank you for talking about the off-gas smell. I'm hyper-sensative to some chemical smells (instant splitting headache and fatigue), so it's helpful to know.
Hi Russ, I use rubbing alcohol as a lube when dealing with stubborn rubber grips. If you can get it in underneath the grip and you twist it around it should come right off. Works for install too and then it evaporates.
I first saw the Redshift stem on another youtube channel and I thought, "finally, a shock-absorbing stem that looks decent". The update is new to me and I really like it!
The Kitchen Sink bars also have a slight backsweep, which I quite like having tested them for a few rides now.
I would appreciate if you could find the actual specs like drop, reach and flare. they're all published and I know I could look it up myself but I think it would help the comparison
Great video. I have the complete Handlebar system with the "Aero" package. I tend to use that feature more to attach things than any real aero functions. Have been using the system for about a month now on my Salsa Warbird. I am quite happy the fit, quality and features. I also have the stem and the seatpost and really like Redshift's focus on long-range comfort. Keep up the good work and thanks for quality content.
Neat--looking forward to hearing how you like riding on all those grips. Seems a little exausting, but for some folks more is always more!
Might have to give these a try, as I was about to swap 15 degree stem for 17 degree to get a bit more rise. But what I like is the reduced flare, "gravel" bars, IMO, have WAY too much flare in general. The drop grips are an interesting concept, but not with the Ergon style shark fin on them... Maybe it's just me, but I swist a lot in in the drops depending on terrain & body position. If I hadn't just double wrapped with Bontrager super tacky under Soma Zesty, I'd try it with some mountain or BMX style round grips.
I got these as a Christmas present, just received them in Feb. Absolutely love them so far! I got the top grip cruise control and the bar tape. Both are fantastic.
Love the channel. As a longtime broadcast designer who started out in news graphics - it's never a good idea to have something behind you pointing at your head.
I have the Kitchen Sink Handlbars with the Top Grip - super comfy! Love them!
They say the best inventions are the most obvious ones aannd this is great!
How has no one done this yet. Very versatile
I find all of your content to be entertaining Russ! I first saw them here and bought a Ritchey Venture Max Comp for one bike and liked it so much that I got another for my other bike. The WCS version. Both are very nice. My two bikes are super dialed fit wise and they are very comfortable all day rides. This Redshift stuff seems to me to be made for people that are not so comfortable on their bikes. If it helps them, that's great, but it just seems like a short cut to comfort on what may very well turn out to be the wrong bike in the long run. But I'm an old guy, so take this with a grain of salt.
Specialized had something similar for their handlebars a few years back. It was essentially a length of segmented triangles with a curved leading edge where it rests against the bar. You could use 1 or 2 on each side. That allowed a piece to build up the curve and another for the straight section. It found it helpful. This seems a bit easier to install. Bonus that it can be sized to handlebar width.
Shimano do something similar *Dura-Ace SL-BS79 Outer Cable Guide - Y86B22000* They were originally designed to smooth out the feel of cables under the bar tape but I know a few people who use them to change the ergonomics of their bars. They are surprisingly cheap for Dura-Ace branded stuff too, I paid £2 for a pair here in the UK.
Do you remember what it was called?
@@jon.e19 I can not find them anymore. Specialized would rather sell you a new handlebar.
I picked them up with the loop, a 90mm stem and my bombtrack rides smoother. I went on a 47 mile ride and it definitely smoothed things out. So many hand positions if you have all the upgrades too.
I bought a set of the bars with the aero loop on them unfortunately I couldn’t fit them to my bike due to having cross top levers which fit to the flat section of the bars . There’s not enough room with the aero loop . Just something to be aware of if you have or want the secondary cross top brake levers.
I assume the flattened tops on the Ritchey also add compliance in addition to comfort (and a touch of aero). Surprised Redshift didn’t flatten tops given that their primary focus is adding compliance.
Unique approach to a legit problem for some. I like them.
So excited for the review of the kitchen sink bar - I got a venture max literally 2 weeks before they announced the kitchen sink bar and while I love Ritchie, I'm a little disappointed I missed out, I would have really liked the one with the loop.
I've had the handlebars and grips on order for a while - can't wait to get them - glad to see you have yours because maybe that means mine will ship in the next couple of weeks! Loving the seatpost and stem.
I think my perfect bar would be the Ritchey Venture Max shape with a 25mm rise on the top like the Kitchen Sink's 20mm and without the goofy bump in the drop.
The "goofy bump" harks back to the 90's with ergo bump that many bars sported in the drop. I like it.
In fact we used to (and I still do) take a half handlebar shim and stick it to the drop with double sided foam tape where the cup of my palm would be in the drops, on bumpless bars and then wrap over it.
I like the bump, it indexes your grip in the drops instantly - and provides additional bar retention in rough or violent conditions (back in the late 90's I was a crit guy... lotta rubbing in crits - and a lotta staying in the drops to protect your bar.) On the venture max the bump helps off road, IMHO really locks your hand to the bar.
My old bianchi roadbike had drop bumps, and my old surly crosscheck from 99' had drop bumps.
@@stinkyfungus Yes, I remember the ergo bars. I tried them and never got really comfortable on them. But other people love them. I have no problem with them being an option, but it is not an option I would take. I have a set of Venture Max bars on an Advocate Seldom Seen drop bar MTB and I love the shape of the bars, but the bump just doesn't work for me. It hasn't been enough of a problem to make me change the bars, but I wish they weren't there. Different strokes...
I'm always excited to hear an American using metric units. Sorry to interrupt. Carry on.
I wondered if you'd review this, I've been really excited about these bars
Cool product preview, Russ. Thanks!!
I bodged my own Top Grips using leftover unused bar tape remnants to add extra cushion and shape underneath new tape. Yeah I’m cheap like that.
I was interested in the loop version, not so much for aero but extra space to attach stuff.
However (& I may be in a minority of one here) I really don't get on with flared bars. I ride mostly on the hoods & found I didn't like even the much smaller flare of Kona's stock bars (on a Sutra), it made me bend my wrists & elbows in ways that made them ache. I switched them after a few weeks for some Deda Zeros (plus a longer stem), with the same width tops but no flare, & the aches went away.
I messaged Redshift & they have noted my preference. If anyone feels the same way & messages them too, they may consider doing a non-flared version if there is enough interest.
I am almost considering buying the Redshift stem for my carbon road bike. I tend to get a bit of finger tip numbness on rough textured roads even with my fit dialed and thicker bar tape, so that may be the fix to help with road "buzz".
Carbon bars are supposed to help too, along with top quality gel gloves. So many of the "middle of the road" gloves have a 1:1 Eva foam pad to match the gel pad. I have had better luck with full gel pads...like Giro's 3mm technogel. I also just got an FSA K-WING AGX set-up...but haven't got them installed yet. The flats at the curve right before the shifter/brake hood position seem amazingly comfortable just holding them in my hands. They are also ovalized at the climbing position like the Ritchey's in Russ' video. Internal routing for cables is super clean too. Can't wait to try them.
Is it all fingers or just two of them? If it's the latter you have to check your fit again - in particular wrists should be straight, and your shoulders should be back and down, not hunched with your arms "reaching" for the bars. Ulnar or radial deviation in the wrists can cause nerve issues.
@@Aubreykun The fit is good, it doesn't happen unless the the road is rough like chip and seal where there's a buzz through the bars. I don't like gloves either pads because they make my hands go numb regardless.
@@johnnydoe66 Your bike overall may in fact just be too stiff. Lowering the tire pressure may help as a quick test, as well as changing to a different model of stem if you have spares to see if your current is too stiff. If you still get it after that, I'd ask to borrow a friend's bike (or seeing if a LBS has a demo you can test ride) to check if the problem remains.
If all else fails you may in fact need to check with your doctor & possibly a sports medicine specialist for any sort of underlying issue.
I preordered the pro stem and it is very nice. Also rocking the venture max xl, always with super caz tape
Looking forward to your real world test of the bar and grips. Seems like a great idea.
Have the original stem and the seat post on my Fairlight Secan gravel bike. Both are superb. Tempted to get the pro stem and move the original to a Kona "monster cross" self build. Bars look great and love the ability to modify in a modular way.
Smart guys at Redshift!
The pro shockstop has titanium bolts as well.
I love my shock stem. It is on the gravel bike.
"Party Pace" mentioned by Bike Snob today-
I have the kitchen sink + loop handlebar and it is way more comfortable than the stock handlebar on my bike
I got a Ritchey Beacon bar and love the idea of flattened areas for the hands. Do you know of any other extra long bar tape out there? Seems like most tape manufacturers think we ride road bikes from the 80's with 38mm wide bars!
My system with the loop kitchen sink shipped Feb 20 and appears to not have left the Philadelphia post office.
Thanks, I ordered the top grips to try out on my PNW coast bar. I like this pro stem they have but I am not ready to drop that much on a stem right now.
The relative drop is different but wouldn't the elevation of the drop section be the same between the two when you consider the 20mm rise of the RKS. (unless the 110 measurement is taken from the clamp area)
At first glance, those bars and accessories seem super gimmicky and complicated, especially when your Ritchey bars already come with those features molded into the bar... But I do like how customizable they are; at least in theory. I'm going to keep the loop version real quick. What is the difference in weight between the Ritcheys and these kitchen sink bars with all of the accessories attached? And is do you notice any difference in vibration dampening or any smooth hand position transitioning between the two?
Wish that sold on Brazil
I am interested in an electric bike and wondered if a lime ebike would work for me. Would you be interested in doing a review of a lime type of bike? I wonder if they really work well.
I like the shape of the bar with the added pads and grips, but the whole setup gets complicated and expensive. I'd rather have the bar tube shaped to an ergonomic shape than having to add extra pads. I can see the advantage of having padding istead of hard aluminium. I'm still looking for the perfect bar and unfortunately it's not the redshift one.
Any thoughts of having them for two years? I’m looking at getting one. Thanks.
Redshift seat post didn't work for my mtb and the stem were to long. Not meant for shorty
FYI I put the really long tape on Crust towel rack bars and they covered
jo where is the kitchen sink?
Hello my friend! How did the tape hold up?
Have you had a chance to try the Kitchen Sink version that has a loop?
Is there anything to consider when selecting a handlebar with rise vs a steeper angle stem?
I am curious how the Drop Grips will work with bar-end shifters. Russ, Do you have an opinion?
Thanks for the comparison with the venture Max. i was considering the Velo Orange dajia far bar vs both of these could you weigh in on that comparing? :D The REDSHIFT Cruise Control Drop Bar Grip is nice because you can shift it nearer the bends and have some support when you are riding on the hoods. your thoughts?
Looks like you need a heater in the studio. I wonder if we're going to see Russ sweating profusely in the studio in the summer.
I've got a heater. It's just friggin Montana in winter. Short of a wood burning stove there is nothing I can do.
Is there a difference in the suspension performance between the original and pro stem? Or its just the weight saving?
I just got a set of the drop grips waiting to get installed, hope they add some squish
Did you like them?
"It's pretty stanky"
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I want this as an endorsement on their site.
Russ, please get a heater. It looks cold in there!
I’ve got a heater. It’s Montana in winter.
Punch a hole in the duct work tacked to the ceiling, it’s the “cave of bad ideas” after all. Might be cold air return though.
You been punching walls again... all bandaged up? I'm leaning more toward a bar with rise but it seems the real estate on the bar for mounting things gets lost. The Truck Stop is catching my eye... Thanks!
Bought mine in November didn't ship until February. Still haven't had time to install it. Just a heads up that the shipping is a long wait. Not sure if it's been resolved.
If you're talking about the pro stem you actually preordered that stuff in November.
Packaging upgrade!
Any more videos with the electronic shifting device coming?
yes. waiting on a few parts.
Crocs!
Will those bar grips fit the Ritchey V max? Those narrower bars have been one of my favorite shapes besides the Nittos Ive used for a long time. My only complaint was that narrow width. I'm definately ordering the XLs.
In my experience, the key setting up dirt drops is a high hand position. Try a really tall stem. If youre riding pretty rough terrain and singletrack, it makes a really big difference to stay in the drops as much as you can.
Drop grips won’t work with the Vmax bars.
@@PathLessPedaledTV Are they too small in the ID?
@@rollinrat4850 doesn’t work with bars with ergo bends.
@@PathLessPedaledTV That makes makes sense! They feel so natural I don't even notice the bumps. Thanks man!
Wondering why this whole system at $150 is better than just buying the Ritchey for $50??? Really long tape for the win, tho'
So Russ...Is there such a thing as too much supple cush or compliance? I've been upgrading and so far I have FSA K-Wings and Donnelly Xplor ESOs (super plush btw). I was going to wait for the matching FSA stem to get restocked. But after watching your vid...I might try this new Redshift. Too much cushion? I don't want a spongy feel...like a cheap front suspension with no lockout...just subtle compliance. What do you think?
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Thanks man. I must of missed those two during my PLP catch up binges.
I love the smell of new basket balls! Just sayin...
Ergonomic kink is the best kind of kink.
dude, what did you do to your right hand? More home DIY?
Injury from making a video.
It’s so funny, but it sure looks like gravel bikes take a small step closer to becoming mountain bikes every day lol.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
How dangerous was this review to do? That is a lot of bandaids!
Cuts from the last drivetrain swap.
@@PathLessPedaledTV you need some mechanic’s gloves
Or an intern :)
Way too complicated! I'd go with the Ritchey bar.
“Ergonomic kink”
therres no kitchen sink!!! sweep
Nice stuff but at $350 or so, not my cup of tea.
too complicated.
For you
@@sterby1 Obviously yes. When Did i speak in behalf of someone else. You stupid.
Just to know! Are they soft like ergon grips or does it just add shape to the bar? TY
I`ll save the wannabe Elite Cyclists some time.
Unnecessary, Ugly, Too expensive, Too heavy, Not Aero, Not made from carbon, They are just cheap ergo grips with a mark up. You shouldn`t ride on the tops anyway.
Did I cover everything?