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  • Nick Wright, Chris Broussard and Kevin Wildes discuss the New York Knicks elimination from the NBA Playoffs and react to former Buffalo Bills safety Jordan Poyer claiming Josh Allen is the best quarterback in the NFL.
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  • @FirstThingsFirst
    @FirstThingsFirst  24 дні тому +10

    Check out the What’s Wright? with Nick Wright podcast: sprtspod.fox/WhatsWright_YT

  • @poppaexo
    @poppaexo 24 дні тому +189

    Please never break up this trio

    • @youtubeconnollyfamily
      @youtubeconnollyfamily 24 дні тому +7

      Only way it will ever break up is if one of them think they deserve to get paid more than the other. That will cause friction. Then break ups. Hopefully these men are smart enough to appreciate what they have, and just keep it going.

    • @1inchpunisher715
      @1inchpunisher715 24 дні тому

      ​@@youtubeconnollyfamilyFacts

  • @matthewsawczyn6592
    @matthewsawczyn6592 24 дні тому +81

    Not gerbils catching strays 😭

  • @tichris93
    @tichris93 24 дні тому +20

    Nick has the best analogies in the business

  • @TC-gx3qn
    @TC-gx3qn 24 дні тому +21

    Nick's analogies are top tier. 😊

  • @atraina6921
    @atraina6921 24 дні тому +232

    It’s crazy to me Allen’s biggest accolade is a second team all pro, yet people still try to say he’s better than the reining two time league mvp, multiple first team all pro player who was in the same draft class as him.

    • @ryansteckstor6236
      @ryansteckstor6236 24 дні тому +76

      That's the same voters that made mac Jones a pro bowler the same year they didn't vote Allen in. I hate the way some players get credit over Allen

    • @legitdragon6202
      @legitdragon6202 24 дні тому +24

      Pat has proven to be able to win Super Bowls with great receivers, bad receivers, poor defenses, great defense. He's proven to be a rare thing - a 'cap proof' QB, where they are still winning with his contract.
      Allen hasn't even been a position to win a Super Bowl, closest thing 1 AFC championship game appearance. where Pat's at every year 😂

    • @HockeyDudeJames2
      @HockeyDudeJames2 24 дні тому +50

      He's better than Lamar.

    • @Porkskin2000
      @Porkskin2000 24 дні тому +5

      @@HockeyDudeJames2 How’d you know they were Lamar fans?😅

    • @kylewade8704
      @kylewade8704 24 дні тому +23

      Bruh the media is who’s voting for those things u make no sense😂if media liked Josh allen that much he would have been mvp

  • @phuglee
    @phuglee 24 дні тому +13

    Being eliminated in the playoffs is pretty much the superbowl for the knicks

  • @redclxxd5974
    @redclxxd5974 24 дні тому +14

    Not one mention of the pacers lol

    • @willandizzle
      @willandizzle 24 дні тому +4

      The Knicks were broken. What do you want them to say? If they get by the Celtics then they’ll get some props.

    • @lorencappelson6475
      @lorencappelson6475 23 дні тому

      Perfect. As it should be.

    • @ihit_those8
      @ihit_those8 23 дні тому

      @@lorencappelson6475this made me laugh lol

  • @Benjamin-fc9ww
    @Benjamin-fc9ww 24 дні тому +49

    Wow. Nick actually rocking a nice suit.

    • @slaverescuehound3440
      @slaverescuehound3440 24 дні тому +3

      Right he gave the 50’s mobster spoof flic suit a rest.

    • @Charles-3900
      @Charles-3900 23 дні тому +1

      Paying attention to another man suit is BEYOND ZESTY SMH 🤦‍♂️ 😂😂

    • @Benjamin-fc9ww
      @Benjamin-fc9ww 23 дні тому +3

      @@Charles-3900 that was not funny at all lol

    • @ihit_those8
      @ihit_those8 23 дні тому +1

      @@Benjamin-fc9wwI laughed 😅now go cry

    • @Benjamin-fc9ww
      @Benjamin-fc9ww 23 дні тому

      @@ihit_those8 that just means yall both corny lol

  • @calebboggs6180
    @calebboggs6180 24 дні тому +14

    What a surprise they didn’t talk about the team that won the series lol

    • @sharbelnajm9827
      @sharbelnajm9827 24 дні тому +1

      is this ur first time watching a televised sports show

    • @RPGabe
      @RPGabe 24 дні тому

      They're talking about the Knicks today because the Pacers are going to be talked about for the next two weeks since they move on. It's normal

    • @calebboggs6180
      @calebboggs6180 24 дні тому +2

      @@RPGabe they will just talk about the Celtics. lol

    • @askme977
      @askme977 24 дні тому +1

      I'm sure they will give them 2 minutes after they lose to Celtics 4-0 or 4-1. (I wish they would go to finals, but there's no chance)

    • @lorencappelson6475
      @lorencappelson6475 23 дні тому

      hmmm yeah, I love it.

  • @nickfratello4321
    @nickfratello4321 24 дні тому +27

    I knew as soon as Poyer said that Nick would have something to say lol

    • @jctslice
      @jctslice 24 дні тому +5

      Poyer has always been big on Josh. He loves that kid

    • @raikkel9516
      @raikkel9516 24 дні тому +4

      Why is this even a topic? It's such a nothing thing to talk about. Guy who played with another guy thinks he's good. Big news.

    • @christopherg7098
      @christopherg7098 24 дні тому

      LMAO, I actually had the exact same thought when I heard the Poyer sound clip, but I think they are reading too much in an unscripted, off the cuff remark duing a charity HR Derby in Buffalo, but it is the off season, they need something to talk about

    • @justinbuildslego
      @justinbuildslego 23 дні тому +1

      @JoshAllenIsthenextElway He really is. Mahomes is the best QB in the league, Allen is 2nd, but the gap between the two isn't nearly as big as everyone, especially Nick, thinks it is.

  • @AiiRiToXiiC
    @AiiRiToXiiC 24 дні тому +3

    The analogy between Thibs' teams & Nick running a delivery business was spot-on & HILARIOUS. Also too spot-on because as a Bulls fan, so I know all too well about his coaching decisions...

  • @groverbyard5287
    @groverbyard5287 24 дні тому +4

    I wish I could give a more cogent analysis but this is the best sports show on tv. That is my cogent analysis. This show is clearly, easily, and immensely the BEST.

  • @naklovesjesus3204
    @naklovesjesus3204 24 дні тому +48

    Tibbs.... Come on bruh... Stop running 🏃💨💨 your squad into the ground. 🤨

    • @leightonrodriguez6680
      @leightonrodriguez6680 24 дні тому +3

      I think if the knicks added a bit more depth the coaching style would work better

    • @mattpassos5689
      @mattpassos5689 24 дні тому

      They wouldn't be there in the first place without it

    • @illuminahde
      @illuminahde 24 дні тому +7

      He said this is his 2K ProAm team

    • @naklovesjesus3204
      @naklovesjesus3204 24 дні тому

      @@leightonrodriguez6680
      🤔
      It would be if he used the depth

    • @naklovesjesus3204
      @naklovesjesus3204 24 дні тому

      @@mattpassos5689
      Lol yea they would if he develops the bench, he ran the team into the ground... Everyone was getting injured 😥

  • @landisreynolds8496
    @landisreynolds8496 24 дні тому +3

    Yoooo why were they all dressed so fly today 😂😎

  • @LDDennis3223
    @LDDennis3223 23 дні тому

    I got the reference Wildes and Brou! I GOT THE REFERENCE!!!

  • @evanpatrick3789
    @evanpatrick3789 24 дні тому +20

    Lol no flowers for the Pacers, huh?

    • @galgalore
      @galgalore 24 дні тому +1

      Congratulations on beating a dead horse

    • @WinstonOfDojima
      @WinstonOfDojima 24 дні тому +3

      @@galgaloreOkay but why is everyone talking about the dead horse still?

    • @jonathanmuldrow8458
      @jonathanmuldrow8458 24 дні тому +2

      They're too boring to talk about. So glad Inside the NBA is covering the Western Conference Finals and not this snoozefest

    • @evanpatrick3789
      @evanpatrick3789 24 дні тому

      Ya’ll sound bitter af. 😂 Always great to see a young team make a run! Woulda been Happy for the Knicks had they won.

    • @lorencappelson6475
      @lorencappelson6475 23 дні тому

      Nope. Who cares.

  • @emmanuelp.8730
    @emmanuelp.8730 24 дні тому +1

    Fans are in love with this team. This is the most important thing in sports

  • @thomassryann8252
    @thomassryann8252 23 дні тому

    Man i love these guys, always good analysis and not packed with unnecesarry ego

  • @joegantner993
    @joegantner993 24 дні тому +2

    You can absolutely directly contribute the Randle injury to Thibs. Randle injured his shoulder in the 4th quarter with 4 minutes left in a game they were winning by nearly 20. Every other coach in the league would bench their starters in that spot

  • @Jmw357
    @Jmw357 24 дні тому +4

    Allen is the goat 🐐 of being judged off of potential.

    • @grantjohnson4694
      @grantjohnson4694 23 дні тому +1

      He has the most TDs in NFL history in a player’s first 6 seasons.

  • @buckwyld218
    @buckwyld218 24 дні тому +5

    Every season start, Josh Allen is the best qb EVAAAR!!. MVP,,Sb for sure. Sb MVP....
    Week 6 but but but....he is suppose to be the best....

    • @mobrocket
      @mobrocket 24 дні тому

      Who says ever?

    • @Charles-3900
      @Charles-3900 23 дні тому

      ​@@mobrocketdumb bills fans 😂😂

    • @alexgomez4401
      @alexgomez4401 23 дні тому

      @@mobrocket There were actually a number of analysts over the last few years with that take, While they didn't directly say he was the best ever, they heavily implied he deserves to be in the conversation. That talk has lessened recently though.

  • @zacharydavis4398
    @zacharydavis4398 23 дні тому

    5:10 - 6:06 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 literally laughing out loud
    5:10 - 6:17 💯💯💯💯💯
    5:10 - 6:39 right on lol

  • @josephzaccagnino6641
    @josephzaccagnino6641 24 дні тому +6

    I'm the biggest JA17 and Bills fan but Nick wrong is right this time, you can't say anyone but Mahomes right now.

    • @flarecraqz3232
      @flarecraqz3232 24 дні тому

      ​@JoshAllenIsthenextElway josh best accomplishment is losing to mahomes with 13 seconds left. It's mahomes and not even close. A wide gap between the 2

    • @donovan4222
      @donovan4222 23 дні тому +4

      Like 99% of people acknowledge that Mahomes is the best right now, but Josh Allen still gets over hated…he has some of the best playoff production of all time (21 tds and 4ints). He just runs into a chiefs dynasty every year so people think he’s a playoff choker when he really isn’t….

    • @josephzaccagnino6641
      @josephzaccagnino6641 23 дні тому +2

      @@donovan4222 you're preaching to the choir he is definitely hated on way too and he is not the reason they have been losing to the Chiefs. To be honest the only thing that separates him and Mahomes are the titles.

    • @josephzaccagnino6641
      @josephzaccagnino6641 23 дні тому +1

      @@flarecraqz3232 that's actually kind of a ridiculous statement but I guess if you wanna be lazy and just say Mahomes won and Allen lost and that's the determining factor then fine I guess. But if you look at the last playoff win and the 13 second game did Mahomes out play Allen? If we're being objective you would say he didn't but I still put Mahomes over Allen because he does have 3 titles and he beat Allen and the Bills twice in the way there .

    • @donovan4222
      @donovan4222 23 дні тому +1

      @@josephzaccagnino6641 I agree, some people act like it’s outrageous to put Josh ahead of Lamar or Joe Burrow but they all have their arguments. Josh has the best playoff production out of the 3 of them.

  • @StrengthInNumbers55
    @StrengthInNumbers55 24 дні тому +5

    Love the show, but when a series ends should we not give some credit to the winner? Like seriously the Pacers came back down 2-0 and 3-2 to win a game 7 in the garden. But I guess that's not as impressive as the Knicks getting out of round 1.

    • @mobrocket
      @mobrocket 24 дні тому +2

      It's not impressive when the Knicks had injuries to key players in the series

    • @lorencappelson6475
      @lorencappelson6475 23 дні тому

      against a hospital team completely depleted??? Of course it's not impressive.

  • @anonimust8
    @anonimust8 24 дні тому +11

    allen is nowhere near mahomes and isn’t even better than lamar. can we pls place this guy in the tier he belongs in? dak, purdy, etc. dude has accomplished NOTHING yet we just blindly hold him in this light. it’s weird af

    • @criticalrush7419
      @criticalrush7419 24 дні тому

      Much better than dak and purdy too but it’s closer

    • @donkeybus
      @donkeybus 24 дні тому +1

      bro it's a team sport, you must be confused with tennis

    • @dave.23.
      @dave.23. 24 дні тому +5

      @criticalrush7419 Dak has higher rating, completion %, Yds, yds/att, passing tds, fewer int.
      Josh has higher rushing yards, yards/rush, and more rush tds
      At best, it's a coin flip. Neither have truly gone far in the playoffs, so how is Josh better? People love to hate on Dak, but numbers don't lie, Dak = better passing QB, Josh = better rushing QB

    • @anonimust8
      @anonimust8 24 дні тому +2

      @@donkeybus well if you wanna spend your whole career blaming the team that’s cool. have fun being left out of the real QB convos😂we trashed mahomes team all year and they won the super bowl. good luck to the bills though, maybe one day they’ll get out of the conference at least

    • @anonimust8
      @anonimust8 24 дні тому +1

      @@criticalrush7419 i agree i think he’s better than both but i think he’s closer to them than he is mahomes

  • @user-wl4xr8lb1e
    @user-wl4xr8lb1e 24 дні тому +3

    Is rather have a coach be criticized for playing the players than being a bad coach. give me Thibs anyday. Any coach who can get their players to play that hard is a great coach.

  • @jacksonmccrocklin3968
    @jacksonmccrocklin3968 24 дні тому +7

    Who do the Pacers have to beat to get talked about? It's not like we're a small city. We're bigger than Denver and Oklahoma City, and Indiana is only smaller than Massachusetts by like a few hundred thousand people. Most unproven team in the playoffs and we're in the final four. I get that we faced teams with injuries, but have you noticed that those teams are ran by bad coaches? One guy gets injured, that's bad luck. Your whole team gets injured, you have no idea how to run a bench. Pacers might sneakily get into the Finals, who knows?

    • @DeafGreedy
      @DeafGreedy 24 дні тому +3

      The pacers being ignored has been a thing since the dawn of creation lol - Roy Hibbert said it best years ago to the press "y'all don't watch us play"

    • @mobrocket
      @mobrocket 24 дні тому +7

      Denver only started to get major attention after winning
      OKC was hardly talked about
      Pacers have to win the title to get the talk
      They aren't a historical franchise
      They haven't been a champion
      They have no top 5 players

    • @howardvines6108
      @howardvines6108 24 дні тому +1

      Don't worry- The Pacers will get their props... I used to say that when The Knicks never got talked about....Maybe laughed at, but you have to understand the Knicks culture has changed drastically... Hats off to the Pacers for getting to the ECF...If they beat Boston they definitely will get talked about...

    • @jacksonmccrocklin3968
      @jacksonmccrocklin3968 24 дні тому

      @@mobrocket OKC has been talked about for the past 12 years because of Griffin and Durant. Halliburton leads in assists and we have the best offense in the league. It’s not like we lack stats.
      Historically, we have Reggie Miller, who is probably a top 25 player OAT.
      Denver I more understand because they’re last year’s champions, but come on. There are four teams who played this weekend and Pacers got 30 seconds of talk, while the rest of them got at least 10 minutes

    • @jaredgardner2854
      @jaredgardner2854 24 дні тому +2

      Pacers is a dumb name and Indiana is barely a state. If you win the title we will talk about Bronny James that day I guarantee it

  • @shawnstanley9620
    @shawnstanley9620 24 дні тому +2

    Josh allen has the same resume as dak ,but dak gets all heat .but josh gets all the love .the media had there favorites

    • @ThisGuyDrives
      @ThisGuyDrives 24 дні тому

      Please clarify Allen having more TD’s than Mahomes in the playoffs. Because it’s not true. So, I’m assuming you misspoke.

    • @issacdiff3286
      @issacdiff3286 23 дні тому

      ​@@ThisGuyDrivesIt actually is if you combine all TDS not just passing which all of the media due to criticize Allen go look at the drop back rate among QBs Josh is #1 by a mile which means that entire offense every game lives and dies by Josh and this year it won't be like that I bet he has a career low interceptions year

  • @alexfatzinger9584
    @alexfatzinger9584 24 дні тому +6

    Wish we’d talk more about the pacers than the Knicks rn. I get the Knicks are a bigger market and are the injuries were such a huge factor of that series but let’s not take away how well Indy played. They deserve some attention

    • @lorencappelson6475
      @lorencappelson6475 23 дні тому

      Nah that's ok. They'll get it next round if they do anything against Boston.

    • @PrinceAmac
      @PrinceAmac 23 дні тому

      This wasn't their segment...

  • @ashtdp1995
    @ashtdp1995 24 дні тому +3

    All the Josh Allen glazing is wild. The dude never made it past the afc championship game….

    • @camctrail
      @camctrail 23 дні тому

      ​@JoshAllenIsthenextElway brother, Josh Allen vs Patrick Mahomes is Clyde Drexler vs Michael Jordan in 1993
      The only area where Josh compares is that they play the same position

    • @lesliechow7286
      @lesliechow7286 22 дні тому

      From a Pokémon card lover who can’t comprehend football is a team sport and parrots the same thing these media hacks do. It creates controversy and conversation and that’s all they want

  • @natureredux1957
    @natureredux1957 24 дні тому +1

    Well the Bills certainly have the Rookie of the Year, RB Davis. I expect a fully healthy Bills team to RUN a ton this year.

  • @matthewmuchow1803
    @matthewmuchow1803 23 дні тому

    He is right. Allen is the best. He has sportsmanship and is not a crybaby.

  • @youtubeconnollyfamily
    @youtubeconnollyfamily 24 дні тому +1

    As a huge Celtics fan, and I hate New York sports team I just like the city. I sort of feel bad for the Knicks. Yes, we lost Tatum in the playoffs. We lost Jaylen Brown in the playoffs before we lost smart in the playoffs before. We never lost brown and Tatum though same yr. New York lost their second best player earlier than in a crucial game seven they lost their best player. That’s tough. See you next year.

  • @dexterdog1659
    @dexterdog1659 24 дні тому

    Nick is a full on magician now 🎩

  • @Crubey23
    @Crubey23 22 дні тому

    As a bulls fan who loves Thibs and grew up with him and those teams, I totally agree with Nick. I love Thibs, he’s the best coach the bulls have had post Zen Master, and he’s a top 10 coach in the league. However, he has a track record and he still hasn’t learned his lesson. It happened every yr as the coach for us and it’s happened multiple times to the Knicks now. For the future of the Knicks and Jalen Brunson I wouldn’t want Thibs to be my coach. You’ll win more games than you probably should, but by the time you’re in the playoffs the entire playoff rotation will be injured because he plays the same 5-8 guys for 40+mins from December until they exit the playoffs.

  • @hamedsafi7715
    @hamedsafi7715 24 дні тому

    nick just said on national tv "the more you play the more of a chance of getting injured"

  • @Miniath
    @Miniath 24 дні тому

    Poyer is playing on a vet minimum 1y deal in miami, its a farewell tour basically hes always been a bill

  • @seanguitarman5594
    @seanguitarman5594 24 дні тому +1

    These guys couldn't let Josh Allen take a compliment if it came from his own mother!!! Lmao. Nick'd be all "Patricia Allen really knows that Patrick is the best QB, anything else she says she's just being nice..." 🤣🤣🤣

    • @jayceh
      @jayceh 24 дні тому

      Patricia knows it's Mahomes since she knows ball

  • @stefanosoderi4152
    @stefanosoderi4152 23 дні тому +1

    Nick absolutely dislikes Buffalo so anything he says I disregard completely when he talks about the bills

    • @lesliechow7286
      @lesliechow7286 22 дні тому +2

      Dislikes Buffalo because Allen is a threat to his mental safety space that mahomes is the best and it’s not even close.

  • @abdeenabdul7803
    @abdeenabdul7803 24 дні тому

    Its crazy how allen doesnt have a first team all pro lol

  • @user-lq6nk3yb5w
    @user-lq6nk3yb5w 24 дні тому

    Nick so sharp he could rub against a barb wire fence and wouldn't get a scratch 😂

  • @tedtownsend8933
    @tedtownsend8933 24 дні тому +8

    Knicks success is because of how Tibbs coaches this team, not in spite of it. He might back off a bit if they had more talent

  • @nostradumass6248
    @nostradumass6248 24 дні тому

    wait what’s nick’s beef with gerbils?

  • @Im_On_Pluto
    @Im_On_Pluto 24 дні тому

    If you get rattled after throwing an int then you can’t be considered one of the best QBs in the league

  • @isabellaearnhardt6380
    @isabellaearnhardt6380 24 дні тому +1

  • @briangoll3668
    @briangoll3668 22 дні тому

    No one on the Knicks was top 15 in MPG in the regular season so not sure I agree with the thibs narrative

  • @StonehenjoFaroe-rl6kf
    @StonehenjoFaroe-rl6kf 24 дні тому

    it was wrong to have LeBron in that graphic too

  • @Ayyylan344
    @Ayyylan344 24 дні тому

    Tom Brady could unretire and join the Raiders, and Davante Adams would still call 40 year old Rodgers the best qb in the league. It's loyalty.

  • @staceylee7957
    @staceylee7957 24 дні тому

    MVP is basically the QB on the #1 seed.

  • @alexortiz7446
    @alexortiz7446 24 дні тому +1

    Lemme sum it up as an anti Knicks fan...Any season is a success when they make the playoffs.!!!

  • @keithlowery9708
    @keithlowery9708 24 дні тому

    As a Bills fan of course Poyer is going to say that but Josh is definitely top 5 in the league and we need a Superbowl!

  • @samueljenson8473
    @samueljenson8473 23 дні тому

    Just playing devils advocate here - swap Allen and Mahomes, giving Mahomes to the Bills and Allen to Andy Reid and the Chiefs for the past 6 years.
    Who had more super bowls?

  • @BuffaloMotivated
    @BuffaloMotivated 23 дні тому

    It’s true. Give Josh Andy Reid, Tyreek & Kelce while Mahomes has defensive minded McDermott n see what happens.

    • @quangster
      @quangster 23 дні тому

      tyreek,kelce,andy reid scored 10 points and lost to the tyrod taylor bills team a year before mahomes took over. Mahomes owns josh and the hapless bills, ended the bills season 3 of the last 4 years. You bills fans are gonna have 15 more years of this, there will be lots of coping in the next decade.

  • @HockeyDudeJames2
    @HockeyDudeJames2 24 дні тому +8

    Pat is the only. Duel threat, pocket passer, off platform, back yard QB the league has ever seen. Basically there is nothing he can't do in order to will the Cheifs to rings. At his worst he is a reigning SB champ.

    • @Renegade-kf8fp
      @Renegade-kf8fp 24 дні тому +1

      God in football cleats

    • @jenniferaceste8823
      @jenniferaceste8823 24 дні тому +1

      3X SB Champ, 3X SBMVP.

    • @jamesrobbins831
      @jamesrobbins831 24 дні тому +2

      Dumbest take ever. Allen is just as much a duel threat and back yard qb as Mahomes. Allen has the 2nd most rushing tds by a qb ever.

    • @CalebJohnston
      @CalebJohnston 24 дні тому +4

      ​@@jamesrobbins831Allen has 30% more turnovers than Mahomes and has accomplished nothing with top 5 perennial defenses.
      Sorry, he's not close.

    • @rally1461
      @rally1461 24 дні тому

      ​@@jamesrobbins831Rushing touchdowns😂. What a joke. Is Josh Allen a running back or quarterback? Which is it? Because you Allen meat riders love including rushing touchdowns to make him comparable to Mahomes and Burrow

  • @Wdf9500
    @Wdf9500 24 дні тому

    Ik this is dumb but I hate the way nick pronounces Jalen lol

  • @TheSnake2339
    @TheSnake2339 24 дні тому

    It’s crazy people think he’s gonna win more than 8 games

  • @closeredge5198
    @closeredge5198 24 дні тому

    Jordan Poyer??? 😂

  • @tonythomas2391
    @tonythomas2391 24 дні тому

    My take on Poyer's comment:
    1. Maybe Poyer is trying to motivate his new QB.
    2. Mahomes is the best QB, but Allen is a close 2nd. Allen had the best back to back playoff games by any QB a couple of years ago, but the Bills' number one regular season D failed miserably against KC. And Allen never got a chance to touch the ball in OT. What would have happened if Buffalo had won the coin toss? Even Nick said that he believes that the Bills would have gone on to win the Super Bowl if they had beaten the Chiefs.

  • @artimp152
    @artimp152 24 дні тому +3

    Knicks players love Thibs - need more depth. More trades for strong role players.

    • @kwilliams1958
      @kwilliams1958 24 дні тому +2

      Nick, who always supports his thesis and I like his passion for it, is just wrong about Thibs. Thibs forgot more about the game than Nick has ever been exposed to or will ever be exposed to.

  • @cameronray1387
    @cameronray1387 22 дні тому

    Jalen is not a Super, Nick please stop it, give it one more season bro

  • @xAmirKDx
    @xAmirKDx 24 дні тому

    Hold up, Brunson a superstar? I get star but super star?

  • @saulsilver2167
    @saulsilver2167 24 дні тому +1

    Pacers take down Celtics in 7

  • @user-bz9yo6ic7q
    @user-bz9yo6ic7q 23 дні тому

    Brunson a superstar like harden pg13 westbrick etc

  • @Jmarsh100
    @Jmarsh100 22 дні тому

    Is this actually a question rn? This show is ridiculous sometimes, poyer said that about his former qb who he had been with for multiple years at a charity event with everyone and Buffalo right there… but he’s not wrong, mahomes has always had everything around him… always.. wow one year he has average receivers and now he’s the best thing to walk this earth. At least his receivers show up when it matters in the playoffs and don’t drop balls, and his top defense is there all year when offensively they’re having a down year. Every single year 17 has to save the team and be superhero and he does that. Got them #2 seed this year and back to playoffs, where ONCE AGAIN, his team and defense (defense is excuses for many injuries this year) lets him down.

  • @benden5095
    @benden5095 22 дні тому

    They have to get rid of Tom, he coaches toughness but he 🔥 out his players. And he is horrible in critical situations.

  • @harisselimovic1952
    @harisselimovic1952 24 дні тому

    I like bra’s take and its same as mine. It is Tibs squeezing all the juice from a meh lemon. That team isn’t great and they overachieved but with different coach they’d probably lose first round and have a worse regular season.

  • @randymccloud5743
    @randymccloud5743 24 дні тому

    How can somebody who NEVER has an "objective opinion"...say out the other side of their mouth you have to have an "objective opinion"? Lol...as for Tua, I'm not even sure Jordan Poyer has spoken with Tua, other than a "good job", after another Bills win. Tua hasn't been at any of the voluntary offseason activities. He hasn't seen Tua up close & personal on the field as a TEAMMATE. Why would he refer to him as the "best QB" over Josh, when from HIS perspective he clearly has not been.

  • @AlphatrusBensIII
    @AlphatrusBensIII 24 дні тому +4

    Josh Allen is the baby boomers great white hope cause Burrow is better. Lamar is more accomplished and Mahomes has been Allen’s dad for his whole career

    • @issacdiff3286
      @issacdiff3286 23 дні тому

      Even tho if we go off playoffs both Joe and Lamar are behind him but that doesn't matter or anything the best young QB in the league besides pat is Allen end of story literally no debate how does Josh have more rushing tds then Lamar that's Lamar claim to fame and Josh does it better burrows got an arm but guess what Josh has the strongest in the league so how tell me how can you say that there is another young QB better then him besides mahomes bring some facts next time buddy

    • @AlphatrusBensIII
      @AlphatrusBensIII 23 дні тому

      @@issacdiff3286 Burrow has an AFC Championship.
      Lamar has 2 MVPs
      Arguably Josh Allen has had better teams than both of them

    • @lesliechow7286
      @lesliechow7286 22 дні тому

      @@AlphatrusBensIIIburrow has had a better stable of recievers. Gabe Davis sucks and every bills fan knows that. Lamar Jackson is getting woke points as black Qb. He’s still a great Qb but he was not an MVP last season

    • @AlphatrusBensIII
      @AlphatrusBensIII 22 дні тому

      @@lesliechow7286 you just say woke points?

  • @tylershort8339
    @tylershort8339 24 дні тому +3

    I’ll say it since nobody else seems to want to say it
    Shoutout to the Pacers! The least talked about team in the playoffs.

  • @RT-far-T
    @RT-far-T 23 дні тому

    Who on earth puts Allen ahead of Mahomes and Lamar? Right now, even Goff is better than Allen.

  • @christopherg7098
    @christopherg7098 24 дні тому

    Mahomes is unquestionably the best in the league and after that is where the debate can start, I would put Allen there and a healthy Burrow, Lamar, Herbert, Hurts and CJ Stroud is good too, but he only has one season, so thats a developing story. The order is highly, highly subjective, but Mahomes however cant be anywhere but #1 for now. I would argue the point for anyone who say Allen is bad QB, because thats a bridge too far. Allen is definitely inside the top 5.

  • @eaglesbleedgreensuperbowl5623
    @eaglesbleedgreensuperbowl5623 24 дні тому

    Riding with The Opps Is Only A Thing On the Internet 🛜

  • @N7Null
    @N7Null 24 дні тому +3

    You guys got it all wrong. Poyer thinks Josh is the best QB in the league because Josh was always throwing the ball to him during practice games.

  • @superdopehiphop
    @superdopehiphop 23 дні тому

    Haliburton > Brunson and was in this series. Greater this series in apg spg bpg RBG TPG FG% FT% 3P% Game Score, 137 ORtg vs 120, 120 DRtg vs 127, 69TS% vs 55TS%, 54/44/80 vs 46/32/77. Haliburton before Jan 8 hamstring injury over a 32 game sample + IST 🏆game was 5th in MVP odds AVERAGING 25, 13 (unprecedented to avg that many ppg with apg), 4, 2 stocks on 50/41/88. He wasn’t close to the same since including this playoffs but he still had some great games.
    Nick is wrong all the though so not surprising. His Jokic takes the last 4yrs were embarrassingly bad.

  • @thekidsavage4511
    @thekidsavage4511 24 дні тому

    Being the best is not a fact it’s an opinion in another’s perspective

  • @sidekickht
    @sidekickht 22 дні тому

    Brou hates giannis lowkey

  • @alpharob6959
    @alpharob6959 22 дні тому

    Allen is the best qb in the league its not his fault he's not an wr fg kicker or play defense ppl like nick and mahomes fans can't separate the difference between an individual and a team and how they going to say he's not the best when someone who played mahomes and seen allen live who word ur taking poyer on guys on tv talking

  • @debking3064
    @debking3064 24 дні тому

    I root for josh Allen but he doesn't has the resume

  • @Triple_SixGod
    @Triple_SixGod 24 дні тому +1

    AB don’t even talk this crazy 💀

  • @Relayer6a
    @Relayer6a 24 дні тому

    How much do these guys get paid? Overworked?

  • @mrspeaker89
    @mrspeaker89 24 дні тому

    Knicks need to keep Spike out of the Garden he's cursed

  • @JonKlinkel
    @JonKlinkel 23 дні тому

    Joe Burrow is the best quarterback in the NFL unless Tom Brady un-retires. YOU are wrong, Nick.

  • @shawnokeefe1580
    @shawnokeefe1580 24 дні тому

    Tua has cant beat anyone good let alone Josh Allen

  • @unionash1
    @unionash1 24 дні тому +11

    Allen’s playoffs losses are mainly on everybody else…his defense could not stop the Chiefs with 13 seconds left and he never touched the ball in OT…his coach called a 4th down fake punt, his #1 WR dropped a catch that landed right in the vicinity of his hands, and his kicker missed a FG wide right

    • @nassiglutt6587
      @nassiglutt6587 24 дні тому +1

      Facts..pat been saved by his defense specially when it matters the most

    • @Dlton
      @Dlton 24 дні тому +2

      @@nassiglutt6587 That same defenses that had tom brady dead to rights in 2018 and proceeded to get a rtp that gave them a 1st on 3rd and 15+ and a off sides that lead to the loss in OT

    • @scruffd0g193
      @scruffd0g193 24 дні тому +2

      @@Dltonchiefs defense in 2018 was abysmal.

    • @prolific1518
      @prolific1518 24 дні тому +1

      When you're pink you don't have to take accountability

    • @closeredge5198
      @closeredge5198 24 дні тому

      EXCUSE 🚆.......ALL ABOARD!!!!!

  • @MattHallam
    @MattHallam 24 дні тому

    Pats the best qb maybe ever, Josh is very much in the running for #2 with burrow and Lamar. Forget stats, watch the games. The bills win 6 games if dak is their QB.

    • @mobrocket
      @mobrocket 24 дні тому

      With Dak, I think they win the same because the team would need to adjust the offense to him
      Josh does too much and it causes him to make too many crushing mistakes

  • @nassiglutt6587
    @nassiglutt6587 24 дні тому

    Pacers actually got lucky the knicks are depleted. That team is now doing good and lebronze actually wants to go there and take out brunson and run the ofense as if thibs wants him resting on defense🤪

  • @giffondhall9214
    @giffondhall9214 24 дні тому +1

    Josh Allen? 😆😆😆😆

  • @arturobenavides6142
    @arturobenavides6142 23 дні тому

    5:44 god Nick is an egomaniac

  • @AlucardMM
    @AlucardMM 24 дні тому +7

    Nick says the media crowned Josh king and the best but in the same year he said that happened… Lamar Jackson was put in the pro bowl over Josh Allen in 2021 when he had 16 tds & 13 ints (Josh had 42 tds & 15 ints) facts don’t line up.

    • @Renegade-kf8fp
      @Renegade-kf8fp 24 дні тому +1

      Or that a lot of these qbs are closer than others would like to admit

  • @clarkkent1521
    @clarkkent1521 24 дні тому

    Is Allen even the best in his division? Allen has a 10-2 record over Tua, but like everyone says, QBs don't directly play against each other. They play each other's defenses. The Bills defense has allowed the fewest points over the last five years which ranks them at #1. The Dolphins' defense is ranked at #20. So Tua has to play against the #1 defense while Allen gets to play against the #20 defense. So a fair comparison would be playing against the same defenses and a good sample size is the other divisional teams, the Jets and Patriots, since they play them multiple times a year every year. Allen is 14-9 against the Jets and Patriots while Tua is an undefeated 12-0.

    • @lesliechow7286
      @lesliechow7286 22 дні тому

      Who made the defense gets those stats? Bills and dolphins play almost exactly the same oppenents every year and Allen is a big part of crunching the dolphins defense so it’s a bit more complicated. Mahoems and Allen are the first two players off the board in and open nfl draft.

    • @clarkkent1521
      @clarkkent1521 22 дні тому

      @@lesliechow7286 What?

  • @choc0077
    @choc0077 24 дні тому

    Poyer is simply clout chasing. Come on. 😅

  • @clutchdipo4217
    @clutchdipo4217 24 дні тому +2

    Can this show for once just say something positive about the pacers? We get it, the Knicks were injured, but the pacers still went out and looked amazing

  • @davidstick9207
    @davidstick9207 22 дні тому

    Josh Allen isn't even a top 10 QB. Look...it is simple...he has been in the League how long? And he is making the exact same mistakes. How much simpler does it need to be? He is selfish. He refuses to listen. You can never count on him not throwing the ball into triple coverage. Sure...talent galore. But his problem is...and always will be his ego

  • @richardharrismbabsnrn5882
    @richardharrismbabsnrn5882 24 дні тому +1

    Josh had pat beat, but his supporting cast did not not to mention he beat pat during the reg season

  • @biggiescooby5836
    @biggiescooby5836 24 дні тому

    Tua > Mahomes

  • @bufflomuic621
    @bufflomuic621 23 дні тому

    They have to keep a "great white hype" Allen is good but has nothing to show for it.

    • @lesliechow7286
      @lesliechow7286 22 дні тому

      It’s a team sport . An open nfl draft ,, who are GMs taking. Mahomes and Allen.

  • @user-rq3vv8wz5k
    @user-rq3vv8wz5k 24 дні тому

    Nick wrong again

  • @KomoKorp
    @KomoKorp 24 дні тому +1

    silent on Harrison Butkers comments still huh

  • @kimberlitemusic
    @kimberlitemusic 24 дні тому

    Hey
    CHIIIIIIIIEFS