I didnt expect to like them as much as i did, They go with everything. I saw your video on the Beckett Simonon white sneakers and im glad i got these. I will go to Beckett Simonon for the suede loafers.
First off, thank you for checking both of these videos out. I hope you got some value out of it. You'll have to keep me posted on how you like the suede loafers from them!
Try European brands, some of which are rather big brands too, that have been making shoes like this since before the founders of these trendy social media brands were born. They tend to use lasts that are actually anatomically correct, so you don't need a wide option because the shoe is actually made to fit a human foot. I wear 4E in running shoes and I don't have any issue. I'm not naming any companies because the last thing I want is the trendy social media crowd to turn one of those brands into the latest trendy social fad. I'd have to burn my collection to avoid association. It kind of surprises me that I've never seen any of the social media crowd mention any of these brands since they've well known around the world, have been around forever, but I'm not mad about it. Different worlds I guess. Social media people are only going to swim in their little pond of glorified drop shipper brands like common projects it's dozen derivatives.
@@TimJohnson-x1o im in europe and been trying to find wide sized good quality shoes. cant find them. id love for you to share brands, or at least the google search you would go with to find them. appreciate any input
I like the eye lit idea! I know some brands don’t use eyelids at all and will often times pull on the shoe string and it pierces right through the leather and results in a dis-functional shoe unfortunately. I agree that somehow brands can be sketchy and weigh heavily on social media to sell their shoes. I can be the first to say that Thursday isn’t that company (not implying you were suggesting that). I think people often forget that marketing has changed dramatically in the past 10+ years and utilizing different tactics such as influencers, social media etc has a great advantage than randomized marketing. It’s important for the consumer to do their research before purchasing a product. Hence why I started this channel to help others do that. Analine leather is very high quality but yet requires more care. Usually in this price range, the consumer isn’t looking for something like that. But Thursday does offer pretty much as good as you can get leather without a large markup. Not only that, but the outsole rubber is also high quality. I also think Analine leather is a preference for the consumer. Is it great? Yes but like I said, it requires far more upkeep and care. In terms of anatomical shape, I must agree with the fact that these didn’t blow anyone out of the water. But, I know they have changed the last to help better themselves in that retrospect. I think you have to give beginner shoe/boot companies time to adapt to what their consumers feedback is to perfect their products. The shoe companies you’re referring to have had decades of trial and error to perfect theirs. All-in-all I think companies such as Thursday and Beckett Simonon offer amazing products at their price point for those who shop in those price ranges. This was an amazing comment by yourself and I can’t thank you enough for taking the time to write it. 🙏 Best, Lantz
I have several pair of their sneakers and like them a lot however, they run narrow in the toe and i have a reg width foot and do not have issues with other shoe brands,,,,i wish they made the toe box a tad wider or offered wide widths ,,, they did not when i bought them....i use a shoe tree which helps some but it is not as good as having a proper width
I just got the yesterday sneakers in a size 10, and they are crazy snug. I pretty much can't walk around. I do have a pair of the captains in a size 10 and I have no issue with them. So now I'm wondering when I return them if I should get a size 10.5 or get a 10 wide. I don't have wife feet either.
I have 3 pairs 1st one was about 3 years ago and still love it. Then I bought 2 more (1year ago and afew months ago) . But these last 2 are not as slim or sleek.. there form/style is a little different but in a negative way.. it makes them look chunkier.. Have any of you experienced this?
Hey man really convincing video with accurate facts. Great work. I wear size 10.5 in skechers and 11 in Nike. Thursday size recommendation suggests me to order size 11. what do you recommend? Should I still go for wider option (EE) considering I cannot wear shoes that are too narrow from the front. would really appreciate if you respond.
Thank you for the kind words! Thats tough because Nike runs narrow in my opinion. Because I work so closely to podiatrists (foot doctors) I know a wider shoe is always the best bet. I don’t think you’ll have any issues if you go that route. If anything, you could always buy the regular and narrow and return the ones you don’t like. 👍🏼 Thanks again!
@@lantzkulp so the first time I ordered them they sent me two left ones 😅They did send me the new ones when I reached out but on this one it's "normal wear and tear"
@@ItsSeals I guess it would decide on how "snug" your shoes are. If your pinky toe and or big toe are being squished, I'd return for a wider option. 👍🏼
they rub very narrow... also they squeak a lot when walking. i want to order a double e size to see if that can be a solution to the problems i have with the shoes
I have the brown ones with leather shoelaces, I love them! They remind me of fancy bowling shoes. Mine still look like new although I've had them several years now and WORN them. I have my eyes on a pair of their Chelsea Boots! now! 😂
IMO the smarter thing to do is to use hidden eyelets. That way it looks like there aren't eyelets from the outside but if you look inside you will see that there are. Other brands that have been making and selling shoes in this style, since before the founders of any of these new trendy social media marketing companies were even born, do this. Also not being a middleman, glorified drop shipper like most of these social media fly by night brands are, and actually being a large well-established company has many benefits such as economies of scale. Meaning they have access to materials, technology and processes that the smaller companies don't. I'm not saying that's what Thursday is. Thursday seems like the least shady or scum like, the most legit, of any of these social media brands I've seen all over youtube. I still don't think I'd ever try their shoe when there are other brands, usually European brands that trendy social media hip folks seem to have never heard of, sell high quality shoes of a similar sort. That way consumers aren't going in blind and actually know what they're getting. I'd be more curious if any these social media companies selling shoes like this actually use aniline leather. There's no chance they're going to do that on a white shoe, but maybe for other colors. You can't fake aniline leather, only the best leather is finished in that way so it's a solid bet that you're getting high quality. For folks that like leather, aniline is just better. It wears and ages better, it lasts much longer than solid pigment or coated leathers. Sure, the solid pigment and coated leathers look good in the short to medium term and they are lower fuss, more water resistant and don't tend to scuff or mark as easily however once they start to go, that's it, there is no coming back. Because once that top layer is worn or cracks there isn't anything you can do. Analine leather on the other hand looks better off the bat because you can actually see the grain not just the plastic coating on top. It patinas gorgeously as it ages and literally lasts forever. You can easily buff it back to a like new condition again and again after years and years. As it's pigmented transparently, you can even change the way it looks entirely; making it lighter, darker, giving it various patinas, or even dye it a different color. Leather rant aside. The biggest difference I see aside from markups and middlemen posing as manufacturers is in the midsole. aka what your foot is actually stepping on. Most of these shoes are using solid or air blown rubber which is firm and unforgiving. The lasts tend to be narrow and not anatomically correct. European brands that have been making shoes like this for a very long time tend to use anatomically correct lasts that actually properly fit a human foot and some of them use much more comfortable and forgiving materials in the midsole, while still using a very hard-wearing rubber on the outsole that holds up to years and years of daily wear. I see lots of obsessing over leather from consumers that basically don't understand anything about leather and obsessing over marketing buzzwords for rather mundane things like Marom cupsoles, which is nothing more than a specific brand name for a generic rubber cupsole that isn't any better than any other rubber cupsole. it's a brand name, that's all it is. They have 60 employees. Lots of folks seem to think it's some special magical material. It's literally rubber.
I think there are pros and cons to every option. I think BC has a wider toebox and found those to be more comfortable right from the beginning. You do have to wait a month or so to get your shoes in. I think construction and durability goes to Thursday. You get them quicker but the toe box is narrow. If you can get them in a half size up or a wider option, they could be your winner. Plus, they are cheaper.
I love my Reids! I have a pair of Morgen Trainers arriving this week, excited to experience those. As a big fan of Beckett Simonon as a whole, I can’t get myself to try another similar brand. Btw, how are your Dowler boots holding up?:)
@@foodandbourbon7737 I completely get where you’re coming from! If it ain’t broke, don’t fix! Holding up really well. I rotate between those and my Thursday captain boots.
I didnt expect to like them as much as i did, They go with everything. I saw your video on the Beckett Simonon white sneakers and im glad i got these. I will go to Beckett Simonon for the suede loafers.
First off, thank you for checking both of these videos out. I hope you got some value out of it.
You'll have to keep me posted on how you like the suede loafers from them!
I wish more leather options came in EEE width. Their tobacco leather is one of my favorites.
Don't we all! 😆
Try European brands, some of which are rather big brands too, that have been making shoes like this since before the founders of these trendy social media brands were born. They tend to use lasts that are actually anatomically correct, so you don't need a wide option because the shoe is actually made to fit a human foot. I wear 4E in running shoes and I don't have any issue. I'm not naming any companies because the last thing I want is the trendy social media crowd to turn one of those brands into the latest trendy social fad. I'd have to burn my collection to avoid association. It kind of surprises me that I've never seen any of the social media crowd mention any of these brands since they've well known around the world, have been around forever, but I'm not mad about it. Different worlds I guess. Social media people are only going to swim in their little pond of glorified drop shipper brands like common projects it's dozen derivatives.
@@TimJohnson-x1o im in europe and been trying to find wide sized good quality shoes. cant find them. id love for you to share brands, or at least the google search you would go with to find them. appreciate any input
I like the eye lit idea! I know some brands don’t use eyelids at all and will often times pull on the shoe string and it pierces right through the leather and results in a dis-functional shoe unfortunately.
I agree that somehow brands can be sketchy and weigh heavily on social media to sell their shoes. I can be the first to say that Thursday isn’t that company (not implying you were suggesting that). I think people often forget that marketing has changed dramatically in the past 10+ years and utilizing different tactics such as influencers, social media etc has a great advantage than randomized marketing. It’s important for the consumer to do their research before purchasing a product. Hence why I started this channel to help others do that.
Analine leather is very high quality but yet requires more care. Usually in this price range, the consumer isn’t looking for something like that. But Thursday does offer pretty much as good as you can get leather without a large markup. Not only that, but the outsole rubber is also high quality. I also think Analine leather is a preference for the consumer. Is it great? Yes but like I said, it requires far more upkeep and care.
In terms of anatomical shape, I must agree with the fact that these didn’t blow anyone out of the water. But, I know they have changed the last to help better themselves in that retrospect. I think you have to give beginner shoe/boot companies time to adapt to what their consumers feedback is to perfect their products. The shoe companies you’re referring to have had decades of trial and error to perfect theirs.
All-in-all I think companies such as Thursday and Beckett Simonon offer amazing products at their price point for those who shop in those price ranges.
This was an amazing comment by yourself and I can’t thank you enough for taking the time to write it. 🙏
Best,
Lantz
This is a great video! The cons really helped me. I still bought the shoe, but now I know what I'm getting into (no pun intended).
Thank you for the feedback! That means a lot.
What kind did you end up going with?
@@lantzkulp I bought the Encore in white. Can't wait for it to show up at my door!
I bought some Thursday sneakers in the Cacoa. They have lasted and still look new a year later
That's awesome to hear! I love when a purchase lasts a long time!
Thanks for sharing!
I would highly recommend a video review on Archibald London ultralight sneakers. Deer skin made in Italy and priced fair
Thank you for the recommendation. I’ll be sure to look into it!
I have several pair of their sneakers and like them a lot however, they run narrow in the toe and i have a reg width foot and do not have issues with other shoe brands,,,,i wish they made the toe box a tad wider or offered wide widths ,,, they did not when i bought them....i use a shoe tree which helps some but it is not as good as having a proper width
This is exactly how I feel. They have changed their lasts but I don’t know what the feedback is. Thanks for sharing!
I just got the yesterday sneakers in a size 10, and they are crazy snug. I pretty much can't walk around. I do have a pair of the captains in a size 10 and I have no issue with them. So now I'm wondering when I return them if I should get a size 10.5 or get a 10 wide. I don't have wife feet either.
@@juarte10 I would do the wide personally.
This was a really nice vid. Cheers my dude
@@makri969 wow, thank you very much! 🍻
Great video. Thank you sir!
Appreciate the feedback! Thanks for watching!!
My first impression is that it’s a bit chunky
Are you going by the video or in person?
@@lantzkulp just by the video
@@ramrocker1004I can see that. Trust me though, they definitely aren’t. 😊
I have 3 pairs
1st one was about 3 years ago and still love it.
Then I bought 2 more (1year ago and afew months ago) . But these last 2 are not as slim or sleek.. there form/style is a little different but in a negative way.. it makes them look chunkier..
Have any of you experienced this?
I wonder if they are the same model?? I know they released newer ones.
Hey man really convincing video with accurate facts. Great work.
I wear size 10.5 in skechers and 11 in Nike. Thursday size recommendation suggests me to order size 11. what do you recommend? Should I still go for wider option (EE) considering I cannot wear shoes that are too narrow from the front.
would really appreciate if you respond.
Thank you for the kind words!
Thats tough because Nike runs narrow in my opinion. Because I work so closely to podiatrists (foot doctors) I know a wider shoe is always the best bet. I don’t think you’ll have any issues if you go that route. If anything, you could always buy the regular and narrow and return the ones you don’t like. 👍🏼
Thanks again!
I was REALLY unimpressed by my Thursday sneaker. Leather started cracking early on, the bottom already wearing off, just didn't have good quality.
@@74bhounds wow, that’s a first for me! I personally have never had an issue. Did you reach out to customer service by chance?
@@lantzkulp so the first time I ordered them they sent me two left ones 😅They did send me the new ones when I reached out but on this one it's "normal wear and tear"
@@74bhoundsDid you happen to watch my first video? I’m curious to see if we had the same experience.
Would you consider these TTS length wise?
Yes! Just be sure to order wide if your feet aren’t narrow. 👍🏼
Mine are snug on the toes too. Going to return for wide
Would you consider your foot to be “normal” or usually wide?
@@lantzkulp normal
@@lantzkulp I actually might keep as I found out leather will stretch and I can break in
@@ItsSeals I guess it would decide on how "snug" your shoes are. If your pinky toe and or big toe are being squished, I'd return for a wider option. 👍🏼
they rub very narrow... also they squeak a lot when walking. i want to order a double e size to see if that can be a solution to the problems i have with the shoes
Are you wearing the shoes barefooted? I personally have not had a squeaking, but that could potentially be the cause.
@@lantzkulp I use socks. I’m a fan of their boots but couldn’t get on with the sneakers too tight
I have the brown ones with leather shoelaces, I love them! They remind me of fancy bowling shoes. Mine still look like new although I've had them several years now and WORN them. I have my eyes on a pair of their Chelsea Boots! now! 😂
I have been eyes those for so long now! How have the laces been? Any issues?
Thanks for sharing!
Do they run true to size?
They do, but I’d highly recommend ordering a wider size or a half size up if you need extra room in the toe box. 👍🏼
IMO the smarter thing to do is to use hidden eyelets. That way it looks like there aren't eyelets from the outside but if you look inside you will see that there are. Other brands that have been making and selling shoes in this style, since before the founders of any of these new trendy social media marketing companies were even born, do this. Also not being a middleman, glorified drop shipper like most of these social media fly by night brands are, and actually being a large well-established company has many benefits such as economies of scale. Meaning they have access to materials, technology and processes that the smaller companies don't. I'm not saying that's what Thursday is. Thursday seems like the least shady or scum like, the most legit, of any of these social media brands I've seen all over youtube. I still don't think I'd ever try their shoe when there are other brands, usually European brands that trendy social media hip folks seem to have never heard of, sell high quality shoes of a similar sort. That way consumers aren't going in blind and actually know what they're getting. I'd be more curious if any these social media companies selling shoes like this actually use aniline leather. There's no chance they're going to do that on a white shoe, but maybe for other colors. You can't fake aniline leather, only the best leather is finished in that way so it's a solid bet that you're getting high quality. For folks that like leather, aniline is just better. It wears and ages better, it lasts much longer than solid pigment or coated leathers. Sure, the solid pigment and coated leathers look good in the short to medium term and they are lower fuss, more water resistant and don't tend to scuff or mark as easily however once they start to go, that's it, there is no coming back. Because once that top layer is worn or cracks there isn't anything you can do. Analine leather on the other hand looks better off the bat because you can actually see the grain not just the plastic coating on top. It patinas gorgeously as it ages and literally lasts forever. You can easily buff it back to a like new condition again and again after years and years. As it's pigmented transparently, you can even change the way it looks entirely; making it lighter, darker, giving it various patinas, or even dye it a different color. Leather rant aside. The biggest difference I see aside from markups and middlemen posing as manufacturers is in the midsole. aka what your foot is actually stepping on. Most of these shoes are using solid or air blown rubber which is firm and unforgiving. The lasts tend to be narrow and not anatomically correct. European brands that have been making shoes like this for a very long time tend to use anatomically correct lasts that actually properly fit a human foot and some of them use much more comfortable and forgiving materials in the midsole, while still using a very hard-wearing rubber on the outsole that holds up to years and years of daily wear. I see lots of obsessing over leather from consumers that basically don't understand anything about leather and obsessing over marketing buzzwords for rather mundane things like Marom cupsoles, which is nothing more than a specific brand name for a generic rubber cupsole that isn't any better than any other rubber cupsole. it's a brand name, that's all it is. They have 60 employees. Lots of folks seem to think it's some special magical material. It's literally rubber.
Thursday’s or Beckett Simonon???
I think there are pros and cons to every option.
I think BC has a wider toebox and found those to be more comfortable right from the beginning. You do have to wait a month or so to get your shoes in.
I think construction and durability goes to Thursday. You get them quicker but the toe box is narrow. If you can get them in a half size up or a wider option, they could be your winner. Plus, they are cheaper.
I love my Reids! I have a pair of Morgen Trainers arriving this week, excited to experience those. As a big fan of Beckett Simonon as a whole, I can’t get myself to try another similar brand. Btw, how are your Dowler boots holding up?:)
@@foodandbourbon7737 I completely get where you’re coming from! If it ain’t broke, don’t fix!
Holding up really well. I rotate between those and my Thursday captain boots.
They lasted 3 months
Your shoes lasted 3 months? What were you doing in them? Lol
@@lantzkulp i work in an office. I will never buy again from Thursday.
@@Miklo_1 What failed on them?
Without more information this is not helpful
@@omegahelix they just looked so worn within a couple months. I like my shoes to look nice, so on third month i got rid of them.