Trump is a good player and for the most part I agree with his view on the potential of cards but he really needs to change his opinion on taunt, if his opinion is that it is better to let the opponent hit him directly rather than forcing them to run into taunt creatures then in my opinion he's going to have more and more trouble keeping up with the meta as decks are becoming better refined to increase their potential 1 turn damage or rush-down ability (gasp). **spoilers** The reason he lost is because he ran with slow decks, he basically gave up on the early game by filling them with novice engineers. A combination of this, his lack of taunt and Artosis' well built early plays meant he was always behind. Lucky for him hunter just received a nerf, without taunt and early game kill potential he would have been 1 shot by the most common hunter deck on turn 7, 75% of the time. Obviously hearthstone has been out considerably less time than star craft so Artosis knows how aggressive play is often more effective in competitive leagues (in RTS's as well as a large variety of other games) so I expect that given a few months or so Trump will be running with rush-down decks and the like.
Here's a cool play error: Trump missed a better board state at 41:56ish. If he pinged the Defender of Argus instead of the 3/3 initiate, he could have cast blizzard and traded his Defender for the 3/3 initiate and his golem for the wounded spellbreaker. That leaves an empty board, which means he doesn't take 1 from the sheep next turn, which means he's at 5 when the Truesilver takes a second swing. Still an awesome player though ^ ^.
56:51 Trump misplays in my opinion. Instead of doing shadow word pain on the Peacekeeper, a much better play would be to Shadow Madness the Peacekeeper, attack the 2/2, kill a 1/1 with the Argent Commander, and THEN youthful brewmaster the Peacekeeper leaving the enemy with a 1/1 and himself with a Peacekeeper that is arguably better than the Argent Protector. Basically, Trump decides that a Shadow Word: Pain is equal to a 1/1 on the enemy board, which many would disagree on. Maybe he wanted the Argent Protector in his hand instead, but I doubt that.
If you are trying to get better then listening to the casters should not annoy you. The way they are analyzing every move and talking about the cards could provide insight. Of course if you are already ranked Legendary then I could see your point :)
After listening to them though for a while, they make some mistakes, but its still good to listen to to reinforce possible plays, card mechanics, and specific card knowledge.
How do they stream these tournaments from their computer since the spectate isn't in hearthstone yet? Im looking for a ways to cast hearthstone tournament
I don't understand how they chose the rule to have 3 different decks each of a different class. I think it would be more exciting if they were allowed to choose the same hero but have a different deck set.
41:11 Trump should have used blizzard, and then cleric the argus, trade it into his 3/3 and kill spellbreaker with harvest golem, leaving the same board for artosis, but have a 4/1 and a 3/3 on board.
Why are you picking on the commentators? They are knowledgeable and great! Unless you prefer silcence, turn down the sound then, as always, in your life ...
Trump on his second deck before he lost he could have played loot hoarder, then hero powered to try and get an ice lance but i dont think he had one in that deck
Right, that's totalbiscuit on the left commentating, I didn't realise, kinda don't like seeing youtubers as a person, because I picture them differently and am often disappointed :c
Couldn't he have cleared the board at 41:28 if he had pinged the argus, played blizzard and then trade his argus for the remaining initiate and his golem for spellbreaker ?
Man, this is a trip down memory lane. 4/3 argent, 1/2 novice, and imp master in a semi final? Also these commentators sound spastic, you can learn a lot about how not to commentate this game from this video.
+Jack Bandit Yeah I was looking at the 4/3 argent, and I thought, "Did he buff it?" Also there was the 5 mana blizzard, the newly 2 mana frostbolt, and arcanite reaper being used as well is pretty strange.
He could have at 18:15 used wrath then his hero power on the imp master and then run his 2 novice engineers into the knife juggler saving him 2 health.
when trump did that blizzard he made a mistake if he did not ping the divine shield he would have the 3/3 take it out have fire blast take out the 3/1 and had the 2/3 take out the 5/2
I dont understand that priest deck - 2 gnomish inventors, 2 loot hoarders with no taunts... rushing for card advantage without any protection, unnecessarily risky.
I like TB, but when he sits next to other people, he looks like a member of the Adams family... o.O Put his top hat on and he mayas well start measuring you up for a coffin.
Lmao at these commentators. They start talking about the stupid things they would do if they were playing, then when one of the players makes a play they go: "OHHH yeah I totally agree with that, that's totally what I woulda done".
I don't think bring novice engineers to tournament is a good idea. Against top players you need a strong opening to ensure that you have board presence the entire game. And I think Trump needs more druid class cards in the deck.
Oh man, how ridiculous it is. How can Bliizzard arrange tournamens (!) with the game which most of people are not able to play? It's like "lets let people watch sooo interesting game, and juzt don't give them oportunity to play it! Its so fun! Mainly becouse we have no idea when we will release it, so posibility to play depends only of our kindnes to gift someone with key! Yeah! Its sooo fun!
totalbiscuit talks to much and should let the other caster talk more + his game knowledge is quite low if u compare it to a seasoned hearthstone player.. it's quite annoying when u hear a prediction that is totally bollocks..
lol glad to think im not the only one getting annoyed by what they are saying, they commentate for people who never played the game, everything they say i already know, hes gona sheep then fire blast!, blizzard does 2 damage and frezzes them for a turn!,
Games Start at 14:05
you're the best
Artosis played well and built nice decks, but he also got good draws.
18:14 I can't be the only one who checked his Facebook
i damn sure did then noticed i wasnt even on facebook hahaha
The only nerfs left on priest would be:
remove the sodding card draw on powerword shield
make shadow death 4 mana
it only took them 7 years, but they finally took the draw off pw:s.
Trump is a good player and for the most part I agree with his view on the potential of cards but he really needs to change his opinion on taunt, if his opinion is that it is better to let the opponent hit him directly rather than forcing them to run into taunt creatures then in my opinion he's going to have more and more trouble keeping up with the meta as decks are becoming better refined to increase their potential 1 turn damage or rush-down ability (gasp).
**spoilers**
The reason he lost is because he ran with slow decks, he basically gave up on the early game by filling them with novice engineers. A combination of this, his lack of taunt and Artosis' well built early plays meant he was always behind.
Lucky for him hunter just received a nerf, without taunt and early game kill potential he would have been 1 shot by the most common hunter deck on turn 7, 75% of the time.
Obviously hearthstone has been out considerably less time than star craft so Artosis knows how aggressive play is often more effective in competitive leagues (in RTS's as well as a large variety of other games) so I expect that given a few months or so Trump will be running with rush-down decks and the like.
Pretty proud that I saw the shadow madness into brewmaster steal before TB. LOL.
He wouldnt been way better to brewmaster his haste divine shield guy
***** What?
Unfortunately TB is a horrible player, but I still like his WTFs.
thanks for putting this up
No problem, hope you enjoyed the games, I know I sure learned a lot. :D
Here's a cool play error: Trump missed a better board state at 41:56ish. If he pinged the Defender of Argus instead of the 3/3 initiate, he could have cast blizzard and traded his Defender for the 3/3 initiate and his golem for the wounded spellbreaker. That leaves an empty board, which means he doesn't take 1 from the sheep next turn, which means he's at 5 when the Truesilver takes a second swing. Still an awesome player though ^ ^.
Holy shit has the meta changed in such a small amount of time.
My god, the soundquality of the commentary. Couldnt they stream the sound directly?
do they use their account to play or do they get all the cards to build the decks they want to compete??
56:51 Trump misplays in my opinion. Instead of doing shadow word pain on the Peacekeeper, a much better play would be to Shadow Madness the Peacekeeper, attack the 2/2, kill a 1/1 with the Argent Commander, and THEN youthful brewmaster the Peacekeeper leaving the enemy with a 1/1 and himself with a Peacekeeper that is arguably better than the Argent Protector. Basically, Trump decides that a Shadow Word: Pain is equal to a 1/1 on the enemy board, which many would disagree on. Maybe he wanted the Argent Protector in his hand instead, but I doubt that.
he was missplaying all the way through it
18:14 i went crazy looking for the sound
Same!
i was so confused with the facebook message
8:36 I can just FEEEELL the unsettalieness.
Who checked their Facebook at 18:15?
Probably a stupid question but can't the players hear the commentators or is that why they are wearing those headphones?
thanks
no problem
9:12
Trump: so.. fun games!
The interviewer: some games!
awkward
Nice play at 56:37
Awesome stuff... anyone know where I can watch Day9's games?
wait... how the fuck did total biscuit get to cast this?
If you are trying to get better then listening to the casters should not annoy you. The way they are analyzing every move and talking about the cards could provide insight.
Of course if you are already ranked Legendary then I could see your point :)
After listening to them though for a while, they make some mistakes, but its still good to listen to to reinforce possible plays, card mechanics, and specific card knowledge.
I would have never guessed that TotalBiscuit looks like that
It breaks my heart to see Trump rarely win these.
mage level 10? Are they not using their own accounts?
Artosis is long lost Djokovics twin brother :)
Brate, dobar si! :DDD
If Trump had been playing the druid control deck that has become the meta, he probably would've gone 2 wins with it at least.
Do you have vods on Noxious's game?
WOAH WUT. TOTALBISCUIT IS CASTING FOR HEARTHSTONE INVITATIONAL!? WHAT IS GOING ON!?
Best. Finish. Ever.
How do they stream these tournaments from their computer since the spectate isn't in hearthstone yet? Im looking for a ways to cast hearthstone tournament
This is just speculation, but I'm guessing that one monitor was linked to Trump's computer and the other linked to Artosis'.
where HD?
thanks alot, did you record the other matches too?
Yes they are all on my channel, go take a look.
Tennesee Fafard ofcorse i will, you just won a sub my good sir, its not alot but its a good way to start right?
Indeed it is, thank you so much.
at 44:38 he could still play the 2 mana card and kill it with the fire thing to draw an extra card xD
9:15, did anyone else notice the odd look on Trump's face after she said: "I wish I could have seen them." lol
its because trump is a rational so he was bothered that she said "some games" instead of "fun games" which is what he said
Matthew Brooks Trump is a "rational"? What's that?
I remember when novice engineers were 1-2's...good times...
14:19 quality haircut there trump
I don't understand how they chose the rule to have 3 different decks each of a different class. I think it would be more exciting if they were allowed to choose the same hero but have a different deck set.
41:11
Trump should have used blizzard, and then cleric the argus, trade it into his 3/3 and kill spellbreaker with harvest golem, leaving the same board for artosis, but have a 4/1 and a 3/3 on board.
Why are you picking on the commentators? They are knowledgeable and great! Unless you prefer silcence, turn down the sound then, as always, in your life ...
Trump on his second deck before he lost he could have played loot hoarder, then hero powered to try and get an ice lance but i dont think he had one in that deck
AWESOME
trump made the semi-finals xD that was a large suprise considering he loses on stream so often :D
wtf u talking abou not sure if u troll or....he goes 9 wins almost every time o.O
Right, that's totalbiscuit on the left commentating, I didn't realise, kinda don't like seeing youtubers as a person, because I picture them differently and am often disappointed :c
so trump.. do you "believe" in taunt now? :P
18:15 Facebook message?
Couldn't he have cleared the board at 41:28 if he had pinged the argus, played blizzard and then trade his argus for the remaining initiate and his golem for spellbreaker ?
Dat topdeck....
Man, this is a trip down memory lane. 4/3 argent, 1/2 novice, and imp master in a semi final? Also these commentators sound spastic, you can learn a lot about how not to commentate this game from this video.
+Jack Bandit Yeah I was looking at the 4/3 argent, and I thought, "Did he buff it?" Also there was the 5 mana blizzard, the newly 2 mana frostbolt, and arcanite reaper being used as well is pretty strange.
He could have at 18:15 used wrath then his hero power on the imp master and then run his 2 novice engineers into the knife juggler saving him 2 health.
I wish i could see these two have a rematch, ya know... definitely to do with their skill increasing, and not that i want trump to crush him :P
Good old times without amaz priest, and mech mage cancer...
44:42 loot horder ping it draw into frost blast on hero
Guys i think Artosis and Amaz are best hearthstone players !!
Trump really needs to add taunt minions in his deck
Trump hates taunt creatures, he's gone over why in his streams. I don't remember his reasons right off.
GorillaBorg
cuz hes an awkward idiot
He's done plenty well without them. I do invite you to hunt him down and try to beat him, but do remember to upload the outcome.
this was before trump ran taunts...
Trump no taunt??? Wat?
God these commentators give the most useless information
Look at the date.
Wow!
They can hear the crowd with their headphones, but not the announcers? Hmm what a joke
when trump did that blizzard he made a mistake if he did not ping the divine shield he would have the 3/3 take it out have fire blast take out the 3/1 and had the 2/3 take out the 5/2
Gah, TB can't stop shouting over his co-commenter
I dont understand that priest deck - 2 gnomish inventors, 2 loot hoarders with no taunts... rushing for card advantage without any protection, unnecessarily risky.
REALLY WISH YOU COULD MUTE THE FUCKING COMMENTATORS
This is why you need taunts Trump, it costed you both of the 1st games.
Oh bexter XD hyped up for what
GO GO trump!!
Trump doesn't believe in taunts because he goes for minions either way.
I like TB, but when he sits next to other people, he looks like a member of the Adams family... o.O Put his top hat on and he mayas well start measuring you up for a coffin.
Lmao at these commentators. They start talking about the stupid things they would do if they were playing, then when one of the players makes a play they go: "OHHH yeah I totally agree with that, that's totally what I woulda done".
42:30 he could destroy all minions..
***** 1. Blizzard
2. Fireblast on Defender of Argus
3. Defender of Argus atak Silver hand Recruit
4. Harvest golem atak spellbreaker
I don't think bring novice engineers to tournament is a good idea. Against top players you need a strong opening to ensure that you have board presence the entire game. And I think Trump needs more druid class cards in the deck.
love trump regardless gg
:)
holly shit trump had 0 luck from opening cards, artosis good ones all the time, poor trump :D
Total biscuit must stop talking over the other guy every time he trys to get a word out.
18:15 Facebook ahahaahh
Oh man, how ridiculous it is. How can Bliizzard arrange tournamens (!) with the game which most of people are not able to play? It's like "lets let people watch sooo interesting game, and juzt don't give them oportunity to play it! Its so fun! Mainly becouse we have no idea when we will release it, so posibility to play depends only of our kindnes to gift someone with key! Yeah! Its sooo fun!
You do realise that blizzard stated that opting-in to the beta will grant you hearthstone within ~week. I got mine 5 days after I did
why have commentators who dont know what theyre talking about...seriously
totalbiscuit talks to much and should let the other caster talk more + his game knowledge is quite low if u compare it to a seasoned hearthstone player.. it's quite annoying when u hear a prediction that is totally bollocks..
lol glad to think im not the only one getting annoyed by what they are saying, they commentate for people who never played the game, everything they say i already know, hes gona sheep then fire blast!, blizzard does 2 damage and frezzes them for a turn!,
to much talking, commentators need to relax.. take it as a game of chess
And stop analyzing and predicting everything
That's the point of being a caster...
Trumpie
TB ruined this tournament
commentators, who suck at the game themselves, hurt my brain.
Trump was not at all impressive. His decks are crap.
it happens to the best too
trump is so weird
Soe, I love her, but she has a really terrible fashion sense.
artosis always top decks bullshit lol
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