Surface Pro 11 X Plus Video Editing Performance Review (Premiere Pro, DaVinci Resolve)
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- 00: Intro
00:19 Premiere Pro 2023 (emulated) loading time
1:00 H264 (Premiere Pro)
5:25 Pro Res 422 (Premiere Pro)
7:00 Render times (Premiere Pro)
7:55 DaVinci Resolve
11:34 Render times (DaVinci Resolve)
To install Premiere Pro and emulate it you need an Intel/AMD machine. Copy the contents of Adobe Premiere Pro 2023 folder and paste it onto C:/Program Files/Adobe on your Surface.
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This was nice to see. I get so tired of UA-camrs telling us how long it took to render a video but don’t show any of this front end work. This is the more important part of the workflow.
DaVinci Resolve starts at 07:55
Thanks for this. I am looking for content on Resolve about these new chips and it's cool to have some insights
I edit with h.265 since my drone, action cam and camera all use it. My cam could do prores but the files sizes are like 10 times for 5% quality improvement. And my PC with 14700k and 4070 handles it with ez. The laptop though 😅 I borrowed and X Elite and as you said, premiere 24 doesn't work so it's basically useless for me if I want to edit the same project on two devices. Also lightroom classic doesn't work which is my second most used Adobe app 😔
Please tell us how you download this onto surface. Just bought one today didn't even realize there was no support. Plan to return tomorrow but I really don't want to. Exclusively bought this for premier pro on the go
You need to have it installed on an Intel machine and copy the Adobe Premiere Pro folder. Then transfer it to your Surface device. It doesn't work for the latest versions, but 2023 works. Adobe is not letting anyone install Premiere or After Effects via emulation, so we have to wait until later this year for the native versions.
You may just have to be patient until the native version releases if you dont want to return unfortunately
@@AleHndz I have that! I can do that when I'm home thanks!
BMD made DR19 for the x elite not the plus.
Do you think the X Elite over the X Plus will really make much of a difference with video editing and render times?
Honestly, no. Judging by the "Best Performance" mode benchmarks, the X Elite is only about 10% faster. So, we're probably talking about a difference in seconds.
Surface Pro X Plus, Davinci 2k60p 100000bitrate rendering at 58fps... not bad
Great Benchmark! 🔥🔥🔥 Is it performing as it should on resolve? Or this is not the expected/final performance yet? Would also be interesting if you could compare to other laptops like MacBook air/pro. Subbed!
Thank you! Resolve for Arm is still in beta, so I expect performance to improve once a stable release is available. If you're working on simple 4K or 1080p videos with some color grading and no fancy effects, you should be good. The "Timeline Proxy Resolution" setting will be your friend if start experiencing playback hiccups.
@@AleHndz Unfortunately I use a lot of effects. Do you think I should go for macbook pros? (I almost bought a few months ago but decided for X elite)
@@seanvideoediting Yeah, if you're really serious about it, I'd definitely go for a Macbook Pro. I'd only recommend the Air or the Surface Pro if you only need to do on-the-go editing that doesn't involve a lot of nodes and effects. However, test one of your projects on the X Elite and see how it performs. If it's not up to standards, I'd get a more powerful machine.
I'm thinking about getting this for streaming watching youtube video's. Seems like speakers are amazing.
They're pretty great! It sounds better when it's on landscape mode than portrait though.
@@AleHndz Thank You for response
I've got the Surface Pro 11 Plus, I tried to edit yesterday but when I rendered out, it just gave me a green screen with the audio. Would you have any ideas on why that could be? I downloaded the latest beta version 19 public beta of Davinci resolve. BTW great video, thanks for showing us that it can do editing work, that was the only reason why I bough this instead of the old X versions. Keep it up.
Hey! It sounds like a GPU issue to me. Did you do all of Windows updates? Those include some driver updates. You should be on the latest Windows version also (I think it's called 2024-07 Cumulative Update). Try that and if let me know if it doesn't work.
Hi, I know that we DON'T should edit using H.265, but for minimal editing / work on a clip with fast turnaround sometimes you don't want to generate a proxy.
Hence my doubt, since no one have disclosed this information (even Qualcomm): the X Plus / Elite decodes H.265 10-bit 4:2:2 using hardware with resolve? Because this is a problem right now in Windows - only Intel processors from the 11th gen and above with iGpus and Quicksync enabled decodes it. AMD and NVIDIA cards only decodes 10-bit 4:2:0, and Ryzens do not decode at all.
Could you test it, please? Thanks.
for AMD, only AMD Ryzen AI 365 and 370 edit 10bit 4.2.2 smoothly,ya log files., older than this version no.
How much RAM should I get for the Surface pro if we want to use photoshop and Davinci? Thanks
I'd say 32gb if you're editing 4K. Photoshop would be fine with just 16 and 1080p video too.
my old 1050 GPU can run color grading on resolve....the real test is fusion, titles, effects...I also have an m2 with only 8GB ram...I notice nothing and I am working on a 45 minutes 4k timeline with effects....Apple still seems ahead from what I have been seeing compared to Snapdragon when it comes to resolve...
i'm thinking about getting the surface pro 11 for picture and video editing on the go. Or should i buy he new ipad pro? Dont really wanna support apple but it seems to be the better option sadly. Either way, i will wait till end of the year.
What would be your reccomendation?
For photo editing, the Surface is amazing. Photoshop runs great and it's full version. The iPad OS version is missing features because they optimized it for iPad so you're not getting the full desktop version.
As for video editing, Premiere Pro still isn't available on Arm, so you'd have to run it emulated and performance and battery savings won't be the best until Adobe releases the Arm version. If you use DaVinci Resolve then both iPad and Surface versions should be ok.
@@AleHndz thank you very much for your advice :)
I'm gonna buy the surface :)
since i'm going to wait until the end of this year before purchase, i hope that premiere pro is optimized for arm. If not, its not the biggest issue for me. 😊😊
For video editing in 4k of long videos do you think it works good? Not using so much effect with cyberlink powerdirector. Better 32gb of ram or 16 is enough?
Yeah, as long as you don't have many effects you should be good. I would get 32GB if you can afford it. If editing 4K, it's always good to have more RAM.
@@AleHndz thanks for your answer im thinking to buy it
Hi what do you think just buy it without keyboard or just with the old version of KB, also do you think is a better choice to buy this chips over intel Core Ultra, if I not going to play games, mostly on web services and adobe application.
Also still considering X plus or X elite of this surface, while elite got sightly multi-core efficiency ,oled screed and larger size storage, and perhaps for the color ...
For your use case I think you should go with the X Plus. It's really not that much different from the X Elite in terms of speed. Battery life will be a lot better than Intel. I recommend the Signature keyboard which is the cheaper one so you can save some money.
@@AleHndz great I just order the x plus version with the keyboard and pen you mention ,is 256ssd and decide to upgrade to 1TB SSD ,but lots of money saving :)
@@angus004004 Awesome, enjoy!
I have seen the yoga slim 7x snapdragon editing 4k 60 fps video very well some transitions no proxi mode
Yeah man I have it. It's been editing all my Air3, Pocket 3 footage perfect. I even loaded up a real estate video I shot on a BMPCC4k from my desktop with lots of NR and heavy color adjustments and it actually handled it pretty decently. Pretty impressive.
This thing is totally fine for editing simple things on the go.
@@ChayDizzle84 Are you editing in Adobe Premiere Pro, which version if so? thanks!
hey can you use the pen for premiere pro or just the keyboard
You can use the pen with it.
Alejandro, crees que esta sea una mejor opcion a largo plazo (una vez estan las versiones estables) a una Mac M3?
Depende. Es competición directa, y Apple quizás es superior en cuanto a batería. A este punto, cuando ambos dispositivos tienen performance similar, se trataría más de prefirir un sistema operativo que otro. Si prefieres Windows, entonces Surface es la mejor opción. Si prefieres Mac, M3 es la mejor opción.
Gracias!
Hi there, do you know if After Effects 2023 would work if I transferred it from an x86 PC?
It might open, but I doubt it will be efficient. Since AE requires more GPU resources than CPU, it's better to wait for the native Arm version. The emulated versions are not using the GPU at all.
@@AleHndz Ah I see. Thank you. I might be getting a new work device soon, however I don't know if I should get one of these laptops. I use InDesign and After Effects almost every day and right now neither are available
Hey when will we get premiere pro 2024
Adobe says by end of the year, but at least they're now allowing you to install the emulated version via Creative Cloud.
Hey Alejandro how did u install premiere pro or DaVinci Resolve on your surface? I can't install it
For Resolve go to their website and download Windows ARM Public Beta. For Premiere Pro, I believe the emulated version is now available on Adobe Creative Cloud, so download and install Creative Cloud first.
@@AleHndz Thank you so much for responding. I already did but still doesn't work. Can be a problem of my surface?
Are you using the Surface Pro 11 X Plus or X Elite? What doesn't work exactly? Meaning, does it give you an error message? Does it not show up at all?
Hey Alejandro, I’m having the same issue trying to load Davinci but there’s an error that says unsupported GPU Processing Mode. I’m using the plus version, any help will be much much appreciated!
@@germainesim9786 Make sure you have the latest Windows updates, which include driver updates. If that doesn't work, let me know.
Where can we get that wallpaper please?
uhdwallpapers.org/wallpaper/keep-calm-and-admire-the-mountain-view_788494/
My Ipad from 2018 does beter....wtf!
iPad does not run Premiere nor Davinci Resolve
@@Not_InfoIPad pro has Davinci Resolve😂
The 2018 iPad does better because it will not run non-native software like the apps in the video. The apps you run on the iPad are fully optimized for iOS and the ARM-based A12X SoC on that 2018 iPad including any hardware encoders it has.
The software shown in the video is not yet fully optimized for the laptop’s ARM processor. When the developers get that done, the Snapdragon X will probably blow away that 2018 iPad. (But it might not beat an M4 iPad, which is also ARM.)