Which side has the game style to win it all in 2024? - SEN
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
- Nathan Buckley joins Gerard Whateley to discuss the Tarryn Thomas situation, the evolution of game styles over the last 20 years, Hawthorn's pre-season injury woes, how Adem Yze has fitted in at the Tigers and the Brisbane Lions' approach to bouncing back from their heart breaking Grand Final defeat.
0:00 Tarryn Thomas
11:35 Evolution of game styles
22:07 Hawthorn injuries
24:10 Adem Yze
26:12 Chris Fagan - Спорт
Lions supporter here, I think Nathan Buckley is the best analyst in the media at the moment, makes a nice change to some of the tripe you hear, love Bucks insights.
Being a former player and a former coach, both at the highest level does put him miles ahead of the majority of journalists and analysts
@@TheMissiIe For sure... walking the walk and not just talking the talk is imperative!
@@johndoe5061 Tigers asked him to partake in their process to find a coach as an outside neutral observer... guy is definitely highly rated across the league.
I do think he has some good football knowledge. Though he had Collingwood outside the eight at the start of last year. So I would take his predictions with a grain of salt….
100% agree, wish there was more of him
Just sat down with my morning coffee to watch this, can't wait to hear West Coast feature heavily.
Not sure that occurred... lol. Wishful thinking!
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As a West Australian I'd rather listen to sen sport Melbourne because of the lack of West Coast talk, Eagles is all anyone in the media talks about over here, gets a bit boring
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Great coverage - I have a question - should this be about coming back when you have shown that you have dealt with the issue and proved that you have things in place for this not to re-occur? I mean you can sit out 18 games and not have learned or changed.
Buckley’s great to listen to. Only thing I can’t go with on are his comments about Demetriou.
The biggest change was around 2015 when teams started using a 25m kick across the body to get a player to open up the field ahead of them and beat the squeeze
Over the years Geelong has been the masters of changing game styles. in 2005/6 there was a defensive flood, until Geelong went all out attack and won in 2007. They beat the Collingwood/StKilda press in 2009 and 2011, and then in 2022 won again by changing their own style to be ultra attacking.
people say that the saints are boring to watch but i love the high defensive technical game
Trouble is they're not great to watch... dunno if it's a Lyon thing?
St Kilda, particularly under Lyon oin 2009 are ultra boring to watch. But that does't matter if you can win.
Ross Lyon is a dud.
Bucks is sen's biggest asset
Well, comon, he's a bit bit of a legend! Like really, he's done it all. Been ripped off a few times too!
Lolol - Whates is a long way ahead on that front my guy 😅
At the moment, the system (formations) and the difference between them, is very superficial. The real question is: what sides have Grand Final Winning Systems?
Bucks is a smart cookie. I'd love to see him get another crack at coaching and finally be part of a Premiership. From a Cats fan 🐈
I think a player with a hardness deficiency, will benefit more from exposure to the game, than being limited from that exposure. Like Jack.
Really good insights
Ahhh Gerard, almost time to start saving Hinkles again
No mention of Hawks of '08? That was a very significant one
Bucks would be a great CEO of any club
He'd be great at anything... let's be real.
How could Gezza not bring up ‘the rat pack’?!
Buckley is an outstanding analyst. But jeez Bucks can we use the term 'dressing sheds' rather than 'locker room'? Thank you.
It's not local or country footy... sheds? Dressing sheds? Locker room is fine and very accurate, and universal.
@@johndoe5061 Its an awful Americanism. Do we have 'rooms' at football clubs. Whats next - shoulder pads, helmets and tights? As Australians our language has a heritage and texture. 'Dressing shed' is a colourful colloquialism not an architectural term FFS.But I am writing this to a Collinwood supporter so you are probably more at home with crayons than writing champ.
@paulmatters2641 it's actually called a footy shed, not a dressing shed... if you wanna get all Australian on us. As for pies fans using crayons... um, yeah, nice one! Very original. I think you may find our knowledge is above the general populous! And mine certainly is!
@paulmatters2641 mate I played local footy for 15 years and never heard to term dressing sheds. We always just referred it as the club rooms
@@liamloveday3571 Champ dressing sheds was widely used as a descriptor of beach and football and cricket ground facilities. I am from Port Melbourne and I can assure you that was the term widely used by the locals. Did you play for Old Melbourne Grammarians? If you did I just wasted 30 seconds of valuable breathing time.
I also admire Buckleys knowledge but I wish that all media commentators would stop bringing in America isms. Our game is synonymous to Australia, we are not playing American football with offense & defence. Our positions are backs, half backs centres half forwards and forwards. I'm sick of media commentators americanising our game. Maybe I'm to old at 73 to change, but it's a unique Australian game stop americanising it
Yeah, 73... you're old... give it up!
@@johndoe5061 if you had read my comments clearly I didn't focus on Nathan solely I mentioned all media commentators the main focus being the likes of Sandy Roberts who continually focused on Americanism like the ball being out of touch. Etc
Back to back Jack
In my unbiased opinion, the Brisbane lions are definitely the favourites to win it all.
(I’m a delusional lions super fan don’t listen to me)
As a pies supporter and proud brisbanite, I hope you guys do really well this year, might be your turn :)
@@sonjakozman1699 this is the type of footy interaction the community needs! Looking forward to the year ahead!!
@masonbarker7121 I hope it's pies v lions again... of course I want the pies to win... that might make up for 2002 and 2003. Lol. You guys can have 2025 if we get 2024! Or I might just get greedy and want 2025 too! 😉
@@masonbarker7121 thank you :)
There's 18 teams in the league and I think all fans deserve their team to be up and about. It simply breaks my heart to think that freo has never won a premiership and I see kids often wearing their suns shirts and I just hope they can have a really good season so those kids can be proud and aspire to go out and play like their heroes
@@sonjakozman1699 Cool story bruh - hahaha
More bucks less Kornes…
Bucks:)
Yep...
You're bitter 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think Bucks can learn from Ross Lyon. Ross exposed himself to games of football as a commentator, and obviously benefited by the buildup of exposure to the game over a long period of time. Cos, Ross ended up going back to coaching.
Bucks has more options than Ross... and bucks is loyal to Collingwood... as Collingwood people generally are! So... he's doing what he's doing!
@@johndoe5061 Correction, OK:)
Seems strange, harsh actually, to suspend for 18 weeks, when there is no Police action, at this point. Is the AFL punching above the law?
If the AFL deem he has brought the game into such significant disrepute that it warrants 18 matches well it's their comp
Now with equity appointment Laura Kane in charge the AFL is going to get even more woke. Not listing player weights is the thin edge of the wedge for radicals like her … 🤡
sounds like you approve of the kangaroo court mentality no pun intended@@nathanchurch5907
@@nathanchurch5907comes back in time for norfs finals campaign
All about the AFL brand. The AFL is like all corporations they, are virtually amoral, unethical and brand driven. So, the AFL will act only according to what is in their best interests, which may not be the players, the clubs or the fans, it's whatever is best for the AFL brand. The times inform the AFL that an 18 match suspension is what will get them the constant approval they need to drive their brand. Tarryn got the 18 match suspension, everyone that matters to the AFL are happy with that, including our man, Gerard.
what would Bucks know about winning a flag? lol
GO BAGGERS🏆🏆💙💙👍👍👏👏
Collingwood in 2024, back to back.
Is it possible to be hit in the arse by a rainbow twice in a row? Think not champ.
@paulmatters2641 Definitely the best side in 2023 - even with injuries. Not a single weak link in the chain.
@@johndoe5061 That chain was greased by some of the most biased and worst umpiring seen in a finals series. Poor little Toby had to buy a whole new wardrobe of shirts as his neck size was refashioned by the most blatant coat hanger since Charles I had his neck size altered.
@@johndoe5061no powerful tall forwards was a weak link. They were lucky to go all the way and I doubt they’ll be in the GF again with how other teams will improve.
@@paulmatters2641 Pies and daylight second in 2024.
I'm not as enamored with Buck's style as so many appear to be. Too hyper analytical and verbose. He waffles at times when it is unnecessary. His press conferences were the same.
FREMANTLE DOCKERS 2024 PREMIER
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Would love to see that mate: Flagmantle
@@thequartersfooty wont happen this decade with that squad..
@scottbrushett152 you need a new coach
@@RobKieranz I support the hawks bud… I’m fine with Sam Mitchell
His analysis of game styles over the last 20 years was vague & waffling - needs to be more concise. Sometimes appears not to want to have a strong opinion or offend anyone. Too equivocal & wordy imo
I mean he’s just analysing game styles right? It’s not really opinion based if Cats kicked longer in 2011 or if Tigers always moved the ball forward
North melbourne top four
West coast wooden spoon
Nick larkey coleman medal
Nat fyfe brownlow medal
Keck? Lol. North top 4? More like bottom 4. Best to be realistic and take any overs as overs.
@@johndoe5061 top four remember you heard it here first
Please, I want the number of your dealer
Collingwood in 2022 were picked to finish bottom 4 by nearly everybody. To finish top 4 & miss out on a GF by 1pt proved 99% of afl pundits wrong.
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