This looks really innovative and interesting. The folding is excellent and addressing stem wobble is a big plus. It seems like there is mostly internal cable routing as well (I hate the external cables on my Ninebot Max). I would like to see shock absorbers in the future though.
Feel like pure know something we dont, I mean binning off selling e-bikes that are legal in the Uk to focus on scooters that aren’t 🤷♂️ and these come out in March, interesting to see if there are any law updates from government around then. Great if they can change law before summer hits!
It's safer to have your feet front to back and staggered so that way if an accident happens and you hit something you can brace yourself and disperse more weight towards the rear to avoid flipping over your handle bars, also useful when having to stop quickly.
True. I've been told that the 'standard' twist body stance is most needed for faster e-scooters with speeds much above 15.5 mph. Wheel size is also a factor so if this same Pure Advance wanted to go faster, say at 20 mph, then at this stance it would need bigger wheels. Bigger wheels takes away it's portability factor of an e-scooter and turns it into a folding motorbike.
Great scooter, indicators are by far best implementation on the market, and love the thin form factor. Be great if next iteration could have a larger battery to get the peak motor power up to 1000 watts. Still think suspension is still needed to deal with pot holes on our terrible British roads!My main gripe here is the £300 higher price for the flex over the standard advance! 799,899,999 would of been a more reasonable structure especially as the flex doesn’t have range of the advance plus. 999 for the flex with same range as the advance plus would be even better 😊 Now pure has closed its stores im wondering if their partners like curry’s will have these in their stores to actually see maybe even try?? As it’s a big purchase to do online with no idea how this less traditional stance feels etc. Government need to hurry this legislation up so I can actually buy one of these with confidence! Any info on the battery brand and type? I assume not 21700 cells??
You want a larger battery, suspension and a thin form factor? 😂 come on man suppose you want a built-in back massager too and still under a grand. Totally agree on the stores though whenever you try to reach out to them about it, they just go silent and whenever asked about how to get repairs on the scooter their responses are extremely vague. Company seems to be run by engineers whom whilst great at engineering, do a shocking job at understanding peoples' needs.
Looks very cool. I do question the stance though. Tight rope walk makes sense but imagine trying to surf with a shoulder width stance… tight ropes are not a vehicle-like device
Trust me you will soon get used to it and find it better also when you need to look back left or right will be better try turning you head around both ways when standing with one foot behind the other
I like what I see! I need about 25 km of range to commute to work, and while 25 km/h isn't that fast, it's still faster than walking, and when you ride a scooter every day, things like simplicity and safety are more important than massive top speed. I couldn't bring a bicycle to my desk at work, but I bet I could fit the Flex model under there.
Seeing some of these comments I do agree the shops closing so no support isn’t great, was one of reasons I was favour if pure over say Apollo with their Apollo air and particular Apollo city. Once legalised I’m going to have a headache choosing! 🤦🏽 more I think about this video though I am concerned about how low the feet position is as it’s lower than Taur for example so can u even go over a standard speed bump on this! Think Taur did have it right with a 12 inch wheel if no suspension and their rear light that shines on the rider is great. The advance though gives u the better portability with the folding and the indicators look amazing. Almost need a cross between the two! Perhaps next year a 12 inch wheel version with better range “pure advance flex LR”…..
@Delta Wing on a repair when needed basis or only if u pay a monthly charge and/or only if it’s warranty repairs would be my concern…..wondering if halfords might have been a better partner as they offer a one off annual fee for scooter care which includes basics like puncture repairs, help with breaks etc
Why wasn't this scooter on sale before ? It looks safer than previous models - I like the footsteps and design looks safe and more assist on steering . Lights are a great touch . What is the price ?
Hi @Beaky Plinder - you can find out about pricing and pre-ordering of the new Pure Advance range of e-scooters online - www.pureelectric.com/pages/discover-pure-advance
Still hoping that the handle bar is compatible and can buy seperately as replacement with other models so i can upgrade my kimoa 500w to used less space
This could have benefited from some form of suspension. The solid tyres make riding fairly difficult even with the larger wheels. Some of these changes seem good but a little suspension would have made it for me. Also we need to know the weight and the price?
The price and weight is on their website, also the tires are not solid, they are airfilled. I agree with the thought of added suspension althought a tiny bit is soaked up the air tires
They are not solid tyres they are large air filled tyres and they will absorb a lot of the bumps, and a scooter with no suspension is much easier to maintain and less to go wrong, I prefer this idea
What security system do you recommend to secure the advance? It does not seem easy to tie with a typical U lock (in the Air Pro it is easy because it has a double tube in the center)
ABUS Goose Lock chain lock when you need extra security, ABUS Combiflex Adventure cable lock - can be used in addition to the Goose Goose lock, ABUS 82364 Alarmbox (super loud alarm deterrant - extremely LOUD), a hidden smart tag or geo tracking device - for example I use the Samsung Smart Tag 2 (with the speaker disabled) - I hide mine the in down tube secured with T-REX tape and a lanyard for easy extraction and battery replacment, built in software lock which immobilises the scooter and finally a few stickers warning any would be thieves that the vehicle has Alarm, GPS, and immobilizer. Also considering a hiden camera with data sim to provide traiangulation and take videos and picutures. Quick release phone mechanism from SP-Connect. I also use Beeline Velo 2 for turn by turn navigivation meaning you don't need your expensive phone on a mount in rough nneighbourhoods. Just as a final note on GPS the smart tags are a better product than most dedicated GPS devices because they often fail to show live data due satelite bandwidth availability and don't have long battery life. The securtiy tags such as Samsung Smart Tag 2 or Apple Air tag have v long battery life - the former upto 500 days and I think Apple say the Air tag is good for a year. (both of these devices can be modified so that the speaker is disabled) And they are much smaller than your averege true GPS devices. The GPS devices typically incur a monthly or yearly subscription - this is not the case with smart tags. I hope this helps.
Please, follow the example of Apollo scooters. The way they engage with their audience via UA-cam and other social media platforms is simply brilliant. How do you want to sell more scooters, if potential customers can't make a test ride? Organising a European tour for test rides is by far the cheapest way. (and I'm interested in doing it)
I wish we could upgrade (retrofit) this foldable handle to previous models (it is the only thing I don’t like about my 2nd gen Air Pro, very wide to transport in a bag or in the car)
I wonder if products like this are made first like the "pure advance flex" and then afterwards have some features removed to make the "pure advance". Are the most expensive optional features removed as to make the alternative model as cheap as possible? Overall looks like a nice piece of kit.
Our Bristol based engineering team actually designed the Pure Advance first, and then said 'but can we do better?' - the Pure Advance Flex was the team really pushing the level of innovation that could be achieved from already advanced product. All with the rule to not compromise on performance. That's why the Pure Advance and Pure Advance Flex have the same performance, with the Pure Advance+ being available for those who need a little more range.
The lighting system is fantastic. Somebody finally did it right! Now, come out with one with 12" tires, a 1000 watt motor and a swap-able 26 amp battery pack and I'll buy it in a heartbeat. :) PS: A seat option is a must have too. See you next year.
It would never be leagalised in the U.K with a 1000 watt battery, they have designed it to meet what they believe will be the criteria for when they are leagalised
Bought the flex and tried it out today first time ever riding an e-scooter. Was concerned for the lack of suspension, but trust me it's a pretty smooth ride, and that's probably down to the neumatic tyres and the self centering steering. I managed a top speed of 16mph which for me was quick enough!
@@Zeriod101 It's fine on flat roads, as soon as you hit a bump and its done for. Most other brands are putting suspension at similar price range so would be nice for sure.
@thabo5799 I agree. Does require smooth road to get the best out of it. Can't handle uneaven surfaces or slightly uneaven paving slabs. I'm 6ft tall, and I find the handlebars too low and I'm having to stoop down which doesn't make it an ideal riding position. Still a bloody good portable scooter, but more suited to shorter people.
In the U.K that's illegal and you would be just asking to get pulled and the more people that ride them like that the less likely they are ever going to be leagalised in the u.k. if people ride them how they should they could well have been legalised by now
Does the Pure advance Flex have a backpack which it fits into? I'd be super keen for this if thats the case. Would be ideal for taking on the train to work
‼️‼️Can you answer this question ‼️please. I've just picked up mine up from the store and noticed the front wheel is making a hideous scraping sound when I break🤮 And the baeak is far too slow and loose. I've tightened the break lever but that's made minimal difference and is still scraping like a bike that's 10 years old and had no service. EVER. This is brand new! How do i fix thins please. THANKS
hmmm, I personally the 'skateboard' riding stance to the forward facing stance because it makes cornering at speed a lot more controllable. Then again I used to skate and surf so maybe I'm just used to it.
Standing with your foot front and back is for weight distribution when braking. If your foot is side to side, you will lose balance and skid the rear wheel when braking hard. This side to side standing is very unsafe.
Hi there, Our Chief Technology Officer here at Pure did a great breakdown on the reasoning and engineering behind our new rider position (ua-cam.com/video/GEnnTD_zhw8/v-deo.html) This scooter is designed for European regulation speeds of 25km/h, as such there is isn't the same requirement to accommodate for braking under high speed, found on other significantly faster e-scooters on the market. The position of the feet, handlebars and rider center of mass has been purposely developed through testing to ensure that by design, balance is increased vs the standard narrow deck approach at these speeds. You'll also see that the the footpads bring the distribution of rider weight further to the rear of the scooter. Maximising distribution to help ensure that both wheels remain safely in contact with the road. Combined with Pure's signature drum braking system, this gives a more controlled and smooth braking response over disk brakes, ensuring both tyres retain grip with the road without locking up and losing traction. Alongside our patent pending Pure Control™ steering system and our new iconic handlebar and footpad indicators, safety has been at the forefront of the entire design process for the new Pure Advance range.
This was a great presentation. A well thought out model. Unfortunatelly Im a snob so Im almost willing to give up every feature for that ducati sticker on the bike... 🤦🏼♂️
Daimen Parker - He says tops 25 km_ph = ~16 mph. "Tops" usually means 70-80% during most of the time conditions. So, 0.7 x 16 mph = 11.2 mph (17.5 kmph) tops MOST OF THE TIME, AT LEAST. -- My office is 4 km away and it would take me about 60 min to walk there at a moderate pace. So 17.5 km.per60min / 4km = about 4 times faster than walking, i.e. a very nice comfortable, scenic ride. One thing however that I've LEARNED THE HARD WAY: If you ride a unit that is extraordinary in any way then it will attract attention and be stolen before you know it unless you watch it like a hawk and safeguard it just the same. -- Bin there done that.
@@andremartin8169 air filled tires show very little to no suspension, it’s just something a lot of companies show on websites to make it a plus but unless you’re going 30+ there’s no need
Yes I agree. £900 for 3-5 years of battery life by which point I am sure the overall mileage will decrease severely. Hopefully once it is released/ closer to the release there is more information regarding this. It is a shame they do not have in person stores
You can swap the battery out if need be. There is a panel behind the centre stand for access. There are 4 screws under the frame holding the battery in place. Release these screws and the battery will slide down toward the centre stand. You can also access the controller from this panel.
Si es un Nuevo modelo que aún no a salido al Mercado y será fabricado en Europa, debería de venir ya adaptado a las Nuevas normativas de los Diferentes paises... En España a partir del 22 de enero de 2024 todos los patinetes vendidos a partir de esa fecha tienen que tener un CERTIFICADO DE CIRCULACIÓN y a partir del 22 de enero del 2027 SOLO podran circular los patinetes que dispongan de dicho certificado. Sería Bueno que los Fabricantes se pusieran al dia lo antes posible en este tema para que los propietarios dispongamos de la mayor legalidad posible a la hora de circular por las calles.
Hey @Jez0191 - Can you please drop an email to our rider support team here and they'll help solve this for you :) support.pureelectric.com/hc/en-gb/requests/new
It has everything I wanted unless the weight. I pre-booked it then found out about the weight, very well hidden in their site and info, and then regretted booking it in advance. I’ll keep mi Niu 🤷🏻
@@batmangsxr300 I thought about 17 kg, didn’t find the info in the official web but somewhere else so I may be wrong. I miss the old 13 kg scooters but I understand those were different, with other configurations. Smaller wheels, almost no brakes. For me heavier than that is heavy! I’m small.
Hey Vincent, this is a great question, and one we all feel really strongly about at Pure. All our products have been designed with repairability in mind. For those wanting to do non-warranty repairs themselves, you can see our extensive list of repair videos for our Pure Advance range here: ua-cam.com/play/PLGFOwxkUwbXL0Jq8jhXKbGnO2p4O12Mtr.html Looking for someone else to support you? Check out our nationwide list of repair partners - www.pureelectric.com/pages/repair-centres And for anything else, the Pure Electric team is always on hand to help
Even though this design is innovative and forward thinking, in my opinion, nothing beats my E-Micro in terms of robustness and "all go no show" spirit. No electric command = no risk of breakage! And a weight/power/compactness ratio simply AHEAD of all the competitors, guys!!!
We're glad to hear that you're interested in ordering one, right now we're not shipping to the USA but as part of our roadmap, we're wanting to expand to be able to provide all riders access to the new Pure Advance range!
Very similar to Taur (British design but based in USA) If only it has 12inch tire like the Apollo City Pro (2023), considering Pure doesn't have suspension.
Im not convinced 1- I weigh 100+kg on hills i still need to push/step to stay above 10km/h 2- the motor power stay the same than the pure Air although i pay double I owned a pure air for two years aside from the fragile headlight everything was good I would love to see a pure air extreme with a more robust design (frontlight), integrated lock ,a stronger engine 1000w and removable battery
I had to check the max weight for distance, as i want to purchase one for the gym to use with my weighted vest and equipment, plus my weight and i'm under the amount that would cause problems. Your weight, however, doesn't even come close to me, so i would not even be looking at this scooter. Their maximum weight that doesn't affect mileage is 75kg and you're a 100kg!, so don't do it to yourself, You'll be going 10 miles max each way, if you're lucky, plus you'll be the princess and the pea. You'll feel everything!
Hi @Appearing Offline, all our speeds have been developed to ensure that our products are viable in countries with e-scooter legislation such as France and Spain, which have 25kmh limits. As a brand we stand by the strong legislation that countries are implementing to ensure e-scooter safety, especially in limiting excessive top speeds.
I like this scooter, but it is not for me as it doesn't have suspension, as is needed for safety and comfort. Also, I need at least 25 mph, as 15mph is not enough for me. I found that 15 mph is very unsafe at intersections. I need to go fast over intersections as other drivers on the road complain about the slow speed and go around me, making it very unsafe.
Ребята, производитель, вы придумали гениальную раму!!! Выглядит просто топ! Я вообще ничего подобного не видел! Мне очень многое нравится в вашей продукции! Поворотники в торцы руля - ТОП (хотел также сделать на одной из старой вашей модели), переключатель поворотов - ТОП, система антивоблинга -огонь! Но есть несколько минусов: 1 мощность мотора (да, она хотя бы стала 500Вт) 2 максимальная скорость. Ну почему только 25?.. Я знаю про закон... Но почему хотя бы не 35 или 30?.. 3 конкретно в этой модели очень плохо выглядит передний фонарь... Выглядит дешево, лучше бы оно было встроенно в руль. А еще лучше вместо катафона (с сохранением формы) 4 Почему Ваши самокаты по прежнему без подвески??? Хотя бы передней Ваша работа меня удивляет и вдохновляет! Я бы с радостью бы присоединился к Вашей команде инженеров! No compromise, just PURE performance
@@Vlad_BFS The first to reintroduce the front facing riding position. Obviously the Autoped was first, but for electric scooters it was TAUR. Love to read more of your comments. 👍
Yeh it’s never going to be that but yeh I think it’s too slow but guaranteed it be that when law passed. Spare thought for the Germans where it’s 12.5mph!
Hi Felix - We're still here with a dedicated rider support team and operations center in the UK as well as one in France and Spain, that can be there for all riders who need support. If you ever have an issue, please contact them via our website and they'll be happy to help! - Cheers and all the best, The Pure Team :)
@@RidePureElectric except Twitter is full of people complaining they are not getting responses to service requests or long waits to have stuff fixed. Not great
Whilst I appreciate innovation this design has definite flaws..Has pure not heard of weight transfer under braking?? Riding a scooter with feet in that position is fundamentally flawed as the rider could easily go over the handle bar's. Unfortunately this stance is not safe 😕 Remember the original segway and a balance board they both have the riders standing in that position. Also the "wings " they kind of remind me of a women's sanitary towel 🤔 and I suspect during a sharp turn they might hit the tarmac or scrap a kerb stone on a busy congested road.
Hi @Jedinbinx, thanks for your comment and raising some really valid points. But it's worth helping you understand how all the exact questions we're raised internally during the initial research phase of the products design. Our British based Research, Design and Development team have built the Pure Advance range, to avoid these issues by default. With extensive knowledge from testing prototype e-scooters, and from years of previous engineering experience from companies like Jaguar-Landrover, Dyson and Brompton to name a few, the team have developed the new platform based on countless hours of testing and design. The position of the feet, handlebars and rider center of mass has been optimized through rigorous testing to lower it (through the footplates) and bring it further back (position of the footplates on the chassis) to enhance rider safety. With traditional narrow deck designs, the riders centre of mass is far higher and further forward in line with the front foot. As such, with the centre of mass improved vs narrow deck scooters, the rider is in a far more stable position by default, and also in hard braking scenario's. This is also the reason we chose a drum braking system, as this gives a more controlled smooth braking response over disk brakes, this ensures both tyres retain grip with the road without locking up and loosing traction, especially in wetter conditions such as those in the UK. Chief Technology Officer, Sam Bernard, has explained in our technology deep dive videos, the ways in which we've designed the Pure Advance footpads to be scalloped, to ensure a lower rider centre of mass without the risks of scraping along the ground. All in all, engineered around the problems you raised, to provide greater levels of safety, control and comfort over existing e-scooters on the market.
If you watch the video in one of the reviews you will see them corner one at speed and their is still lots of clearance between the ground and footplates and the Advance has drum brakes not disk brakes that are much more maintenance free as they are enclosed and not so sharp breaking but stop in similar distance, and your best way to stop on any e scooter in an emergency is to lean back and crouch down putting your weight further back and lower.
PEV devices are illegal to use on public highways and pavements in the UK. In addition , should you be stranded on said escooter because of frequent punctures and/or battery/motor problems., it is also illegal to take your PEV on public transport due to lithium battery fire risk in said scooter. Caveat Emptor!
I find it strange that they ban lithium batteries in scooters on public transport but not e-bikes, phones, laptops, drones and loads of other devices that have the same technology in them. Madness!
It's not illegal to take on public transport, only on London's TFL services. Taxis, Ubers etc aren't and you can even put the scooter rin a bag and carry wherever you want. No one knows what's in your bag.
@@TheLondonCyclist if you conceal an escooter in a bag on TFL and are stopped and searched, the fixed penalty will still be given to you by TFL staff / BT police. Possibly a harsher penalty for concealment also. The reason TFL banned them I think is there are so many imports direct from China into the U.K. via the EU that are not safety certified construction wise or power wise. Hence a lot of scooters handlebar stems snap at the base like mine did and also other issues as they are basically constructed from the slag iron swept up from the factory forge floor, re smelted and cast. Then sold . If they can’t get the basic tensile steel right, it’s a gamble on the battery also.
The stance is questionable, I like it but I know it to be more dangerous. One pot hole and you're superman without the Cape. They need to incorporate suspension 🙄 why they have not done this already beats me. Even the ones you hire although dog ugly have suspension, but this new scooter has none. As far as I'm concerned I'm a designer I can garuantee you if I had the budget and a job at Pure Electric I could easily improve on this design and design a scooter a million times better. Which would beat all other scooters out there on the market... If they want to put me to the test they can. I may sound like I'm blowing my own trumpet but I'm not, I could sketch a scooter that looked better than that with futuristic features never before seen on any other scooter.
I don’t have an issue with the steering technology here which will increase front wheel control but I agree suspension even on just the front wheel like the original base Apollo air had would improve this. I live in Bristol where these were developed and some of the uneven surfaces and potholes are horrendous. Guaranteed when u see this even in person in curry’s u won’t be able to try it so it’s a risk. Other than the lack of suspension and not knowing how I would find the stance I like the scooter but it’s so unique I’d want to try it first before shelling out almost a grand! 🤔
And can you keep the price low? I want a e scooter thay folds so that i can put it anywhere in the train, a suspension, and no more than 15kg with 30km range for 500 euro lol
@@jeanmuyuela8112 Easy buy a kids scooter and tell your to use you own legs and Google maps to track your distance. That you can get for £40, for that price who cares whether you and fold it away on a train 😉 lol. Only kidding lol 15kg is too lightweight batteries haven't improved yet. Once it has you'll find you will get the weight reduction plus more distance. I'm a designer not a scientist when Elon has brought his new battery out then we'll see an explosion of new things to suit everyone.
@@jaydavis4752 current adult scooters takes a lot of space. i feel inconsiderate when i take my scooter with me on the train it took at least 4 suitcases space. this is a design issue.... isn't user experience part of your thing? apologies if i do not understand your purpose. portability is one of the important factor of an e scooter.. might as well have an e bike if it has to be super heavy and bulky...
@@jeanmuyuela8112 I agree size of scooters are a problem especially for how you would use it, keeping in mind everyone uses scooters different. How I would perhaps go about designing your scooter would be to think about how much space do you have in a worst case scenario and go from there. For instance if the space is limited to under a train seat or table then my design ideas would go from there. In most cases fold away E scooters are designed to be put away in the back of a car and heavy enough so you can lift it for a short periods of time. The adds we see on the Internet make out E scooters are lightweight but far from it they are not as you know. So again for your design I'd look at how a scooter could be folded away for public transport users. Could the scooters wheels come off, could the battery? If it did how heavy would they be? is there a way of carrying the wheels or battery once the scooter is folded down and put away? all that is what I would investigate. If it has to be an all in one solution, could we maybe do a whole complete redesign maybe looking at the frame more, looking at does the battery need to be in the base? why not distribute the weight of the battery else where or make the frame the battery looking at new technologies that sort of thing but that's where I'd start. Then form will follow the function. Cost is difficult because one has to be paid for their time and efforts to get all the issues resolved plus materials and who I would need to employ to make a working prototype from my concepts, then to mass manufacture. That would ultimately affect end Price of the product making sure by the time it hits the market the product has been fully tested. I could do it I suppose... if I wanted to be my own manufacturer of E Scooter but I'd rather bring a concept to life and let someone who wants to trade E Scooters for a living do all the selling work and I get paid for making the dream a reality.
Thank you Pure 😊 😎😎 My prayers are answered. Now for UK legislation to catch up and legalise e-scooters with safety at the forefront.
Don't worry about that legislation. The gov is full of crap anyway
Lmao what a saddo comment
@@abzs5811 What a saddo person replying to a comment that's almost a year old
This looks really innovative and interesting. The folding is excellent and addressing stem wobble is a big plus. It seems like there is mostly internal cable routing as well (I hate the external cables on my Ninebot Max). I would like to see shock absorbers in the future though.
Perfect and innovative. I will be dropping a hint to my wife for my upcoming birthday, this scooter fits my needs perfectly. Thank you guys.
This scooter is amazing! I can't wait when it comes out!!! Hopefully the UK will legalise electric scooters finally
Feel like pure know something we dont, I mean binning off selling e-bikes that are legal in the Uk to focus on scooters that aren’t 🤷♂️ and these come out in March, interesting to see if there are any law updates from government around then. Great if they can change law before summer hits!
It's safer to have your feet front to back and staggered so that way if an accident happens and you hit something you can brace yourself and disperse more weight towards the rear to avoid flipping over your handle bars, also useful when having to stop quickly.
True. I've been told that the 'standard' twist body stance is most needed for faster e-scooters with speeds much above 15.5 mph. Wheel size is also a factor so if this same Pure Advance wanted to go faster, say at 20 mph, then at this stance it would need bigger wheels. Bigger wheels takes away it's portability factor of an e-scooter and turns it into a folding motorbike.
If u hit something your done for anyways 😂 twats
Great scooter, indicators are by far best implementation on the market, and love the thin form factor. Be great if next iteration could have a larger battery to get the peak motor power up to 1000 watts. Still think suspension is still needed to deal with pot holes on our terrible British roads!My main gripe here is the £300 higher price for the flex over the standard advance! 799,899,999 would of been a more reasonable structure especially as the flex doesn’t have range of the advance plus. 999 for the flex with same range as the advance plus would be even better 😊 Now pure has closed its stores im wondering if their partners like curry’s will have these in their stores to actually see maybe even try?? As it’s a big purchase to do online with no idea how this less traditional stance feels etc. Government need to hurry this legislation up so I can actually buy one of these with confidence! Any info on the battery brand and type? I assume not 21700 cells??
You want a larger battery, suspension and a thin form factor? 😂 come on man suppose you want a built-in back massager too and still under a grand.
Totally agree on the stores though whenever you try to reach out to them about it, they just go silent and whenever asked about how to get repairs on the scooter their responses are extremely vague. Company seems to be run by engineers whom whilst great at engineering, do a shocking job at understanding peoples' needs.
Well written comment 👏
@@unthenner5519they do have repair shops now lol on website. I recon more Nike shops will incorporate repairing them
That's my kinda escooter! A well thought out model in all areas. Design is red dot design worthy too!
Very lovely professional review loved well done
Looks very cool. I do question the stance though. Tight rope walk makes sense but imagine trying to surf with a shoulder width stance… tight ropes are not a vehicle-like device
Trust me you will soon get used to it and find it better also when you need to look back left or right will be better try turning you head around both ways when standing with one foot behind the other
Tight rope stance doesn’t make sense either! Whoever is standing like that is also unstable, a ridiculous way to stand.
@@unthenner5519 andremartin8169 has a very interesting “trust me bro” rebuttal
Can't wait to ride this on my chunk of private land!
LMAO
I like what I see! I need about 25 km of range to commute to work, and while 25 km/h isn't that fast, it's still faster than walking, and when you ride a scooter every day, things like simplicity and safety are more important than massive top speed. I couldn't bring a bicycle to my desk at work, but I bet I could fit the Flex model under there.
Seeing some of these comments I do agree the shops closing so no support isn’t great, was one of reasons I was favour if pure over say Apollo with their Apollo air and particular Apollo city. Once legalised I’m going to have a headache choosing! 🤦🏽 more I think about this video though I am concerned about how low the feet position is as it’s lower than Taur for example so can u even go over a standard speed bump on this! Think Taur did have it right with a 12 inch wheel if no suspension and their rear light that shines on the rider is great. The advance though gives u the better portability with the folding and the indicators look amazing. Almost need a cross between the two! Perhaps next year a 12 inch wheel version with better range “pure advance flex LR”…..
@Delta Wing on a repair when needed basis or only if u pay a monthly charge and/or only if it’s warranty repairs would be my concern…..wondering if halfords might have been a better partner as they offer a one off annual fee for scooter care which includes basics like puncture repairs, help with breaks etc
Why wasn't this scooter on sale before ? It looks safer than previous models - I like the footsteps and design looks safe and more assist on steering . Lights are a great touch . What is the price ?
Hi @Beaky Plinder - you can find out about pricing and pre-ordering of the new Pure Advance range of e-scooters online - www.pureelectric.com/pages/discover-pure-advance
Still hoping that the handle bar is compatible and can buy seperately as replacement with other models so i can upgrade my kimoa 500w to used less space
Very well and nice explained! Thank you
nice scooter, good price. but 2023? we need it now.
I have ordered one, march time will be here before you know it and I think we'll worth the wait, be patient my freind something to look forward to
I really really want this but not available in Canada. I hope it will be available soon in different countries
why no suspension? have you seen the roads here?
More fun without just steer around the bumps.
Very Well Explained!! Thank you
How about service and replacement parts
Muy mal en españa han desaparecido y nos ha dejado apenas sin repuestos originales una odisea
This could have benefited from some form of suspension. The solid tyres make riding fairly difficult even with the larger wheels. Some of these changes seem good but a little suspension would have made it for me.
Also we need to know the weight and the price?
The price and weight is on their website, also the tires are not solid, they are airfilled. I agree with the thought of added suspension althought a tiny bit is soaked up the air tires
They are not solid tyres they are large air filled tyres and they will absorb a lot of the bumps, and a scooter with no suspension is much easier to maintain and less to go wrong, I prefer this idea
16 kg
It’s be nice and better if people have choices advance or flex with range distance ❤️❤️❤️
Couldn't you guys release it like a month earlier so I would buy this one instead of the previous model 😂😂
Looks great. Can't wait for them to be legal.
What security system do you recommend to secure the advance? It does not seem easy to tie with a typical U lock (in the Air Pro it is easy because it has a double tube in the center)
ABUS Goose Lock chain lock when you need extra security, ABUS Combiflex Adventure cable lock - can be used in addition to the Goose Goose lock, ABUS 82364 Alarmbox (super loud alarm deterrant - extremely LOUD), a hidden smart tag or geo tracking device - for example I use the Samsung Smart Tag 2 (with the speaker disabled) - I hide mine the in down tube secured with T-REX tape and a lanyard for easy extraction and battery replacment, built in software lock which immobilises the scooter and finally a few stickers warning any would be thieves that the vehicle has Alarm, GPS, and immobilizer. Also considering a hiden camera with data sim to provide traiangulation and take videos and picutures. Quick release phone mechanism from SP-Connect. I also use Beeline Velo 2 for turn by turn navigivation meaning you don't need your expensive phone on a mount in rough nneighbourhoods. Just as a final note on GPS the smart tags are a better product than most dedicated GPS devices because they often fail to show live data due satelite bandwidth availability and don't have long battery life. The securtiy tags such as Samsung Smart Tag 2 or Apple Air tag have v long battery life - the former upto 500 days and I think Apple say the Air tag is good for a year. (both of these devices can be modified so that the speaker is disabled) And they are much smaller than your averege true GPS devices. The GPS devices typically incur a monthly or yearly subscription - this is not the case with smart tags. I hope this helps.
Please, follow the example of Apollo scooters. The way they engage with their audience via UA-cam and other social media platforms is simply brilliant.
How do you want to sell more scooters, if potential customers can't make a test ride? Organising a European tour for test rides is by far the cheapest way. (and I'm interested in doing it)
I wish we could upgrade (retrofit) this foldable handle to previous models (it is the only thing I don’t like about my 2nd gen Air Pro, very wide to transport in a bag or in the car)
I wonder if products like this are made first like the "pure advance flex" and then afterwards have some features removed to make the "pure advance". Are the most expensive optional features removed as to make the alternative model as cheap as possible? Overall looks like a nice piece of kit.
Our Bristol based engineering team actually designed the Pure Advance first, and then said 'but can we do better?' - the Pure Advance Flex was the team really pushing the level of innovation that could be achieved from already advanced product. All with the rule to not compromise on performance.
That's why the Pure Advance and Pure Advance Flex have the same performance, with the Pure Advance+ being available for those who need a little more range.
How can I mount my mobile phone on my Pure Advance? Is there any original accessory available?
no suspensions?
The lighting system is fantastic. Somebody finally did it right! Now, come out with one with 12" tires, a 1000 watt motor and a swap-able 26 amp battery pack and I'll buy it in a heartbeat. :)
PS: A seat option is a must have too. See you next year.
It would never be leagalised in the U.K with a 1000 watt battery, they have designed it to meet what they believe will be the criteria for when they are leagalised
only issue for me is no suspension. Make one with suspension, can feel every vibration on the scooter.
Bought the flex and tried it out today first time ever riding an e-scooter. Was concerned for the lack of suspension, but trust me it's a pretty smooth ride, and that's probably down to the neumatic tyres and the self centering steering. I managed a top speed of 16mph which for me was quick enough!
@@Zeriod101 It's fine on flat roads, as soon as you hit a bump and its done for. Most other brands are putting suspension at similar price range so would be nice for sure.
@thabo5799 I agree. Does require smooth road to get the best out of it. Can't handle uneaven surfaces or slightly uneaven paving slabs.
I'm 6ft tall, and I find the handlebars too low and I'm having to stoop down which doesn't make it an ideal riding position.
Still a bloody good portable scooter, but more suited to shorter people.
I like most things about them but that new shape won't allow you to carry two people, which I like to do.
Is that not illegal where u live double riding? It will be in the Uk, maybe another reason they liked this design 🤷♂️
@@e-scooterguy It is ilegal, but not too well enforced.
In the U.K that's illegal and you would be just asking to get pulled and the more people that ride them like that the less likely they are ever going to be leagalised in the u.k. if people ride them how they should they could well have been legalised by now
When will this be available in the United States?
Does the Pure advance Flex have a backpack which it fits into? I'd be super keen for this if thats the case. Would be ideal for taking on the train to work
you could probably find a third party one
This is awesome for commuting 👍👍👍👍👍👍
‼️‼️Can you answer this question ‼️please.
I've just picked up mine up from the store and noticed the front wheel is making a hideous scraping sound when I break🤮
And the baeak is far too slow and loose.
I've tightened the break lever but that's made minimal difference and is still scraping like a bike that's 10 years old and had no service. EVER.
This is brand new! How do i fix thins please. THANKS
Why don't you go back to the store and get itchy checked out?
For the love of all that’s holy, duel motor suspension version please. This is too anemic.
Will it be available in the United States?
Great question
No only spain Belgium France and UK
It wouldn't be available in the States because Biden might kill himself with one of this.
When are they going to make these legal in Britain. They keep saying they want us out the car. I would definitely get one to go to work on.
That is great product 👍 good job lads. It's cool because it is illegal for someone
Very i formative channel. Thank you for sharing.
hmmm, I personally the 'skateboard' riding stance to the forward facing stance because it makes cornering at speed a lot more controllable. Then again I used to skate and surf so maybe I'm just used to it.
I like to have access to the battery and other components. But its a cool project.
I'm sure you can unscrew the deck cover.
Is this sold in USA 🇺🇸 🗽??
Storing it under the stairs 🫣🔋🔥
Standing with your foot front and back is for weight distribution when braking. If your foot is side to side, you will lose balance and skid the rear wheel when braking hard. This side to side standing is very unsafe.
Hi there,
Our Chief Technology Officer here at Pure did a great breakdown on the reasoning and engineering behind our new rider position (ua-cam.com/video/GEnnTD_zhw8/v-deo.html)
This scooter is designed for European regulation speeds of 25km/h, as such there is isn't the same requirement to accommodate for braking under high speed, found on other significantly faster e-scooters on the market.
The position of the feet, handlebars and rider center of mass has been purposely developed through testing to ensure that by design, balance is increased vs the standard narrow deck approach at these speeds.
You'll also see that the the footpads bring the distribution of rider weight further to the rear of the scooter. Maximising distribution to help ensure that both wheels remain safely in contact with the road.
Combined with Pure's signature drum braking system, this gives a more controlled and smooth braking response over disk brakes, ensuring both tyres retain grip with the road without locking up and losing traction.
Alongside our patent pending Pure Control™ steering system and our new iconic handlebar and footpad indicators, safety has been at the forefront of the entire design process for the new Pure Advance range.
Just what I was thinking about. The answer is interesting though.
When will these be available in the UK?
Also, how do you lock/secure these please?
This was a great presentation. A well thought out model. Unfortunatelly Im a snob so Im almost willing to give up every feature for that ducati sticker on the bike... 🤦🏼♂️
Equally, we can't stop you from sticking your own Ducati sticker on a Pure Advance 😉
Ah..lost me at the top speed. Was hoping it could get up to at least 20mph.
Daimen Parker - He says tops 25 km_ph = ~16 mph.
"Tops" usually means 70-80% during most of the time conditions. So, 0.7 x 16 mph = 11.2 mph (17.5 kmph) tops MOST OF THE TIME, AT LEAST.
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My office is 4 km away and it would take me about 60 min to walk there at a moderate pace. So 17.5 km.per60min / 4km = about 4 times faster than walking, i.e. a very nice comfortable, scenic ride.
One thing however that I've LEARNED THE HARD WAY: If you ride a unit that is extraordinary in any way then it will attract attention and be stolen before you know it unless you watch it like a hawk and safeguard it just the same. -- Bin there done that.
Looks really interesting, pity about the price £900 and you can’t legally use them on public roads or footpaths in Britain.🇬🇧
No suspension is crazy 😭
With the larger air filled tyres I think their no need for suspension and less to go wrong and maintain, I much prefer this idea
@@andremartin8169 air filled tires show very little to no suspension, it’s just something a lot of companies show on websites to make it a plus but unless you’re going 30+ there’s no need
Nice job
So you can't swap out the battery?
Yes I agree. £900 for 3-5 years of battery life by which point I am sure the overall mileage will decrease severely.
Hopefully once it is released/ closer to the release there is more information regarding this.
It is a shame they do not have in person stores
You can swap the battery out if need be. There is a panel behind the centre stand for access. There are 4 screws under the frame holding the battery in place. Release these screws and the battery will slide down toward the centre stand. You can also access the controller from this panel.
Can you buy this North America ?
Si es un Nuevo modelo que aún no a salido al Mercado y será fabricado en Europa, debería de venir ya adaptado a las Nuevas normativas de los Diferentes paises... En España a partir del 22 de enero de 2024 todos los patinetes vendidos a partir de esa fecha tienen que tener un CERTIFICADO DE CIRCULACIÓN y a partir del 22 de enero del 2027 SOLO podran circular los patinetes que dispongan de dicho certificado. Sería Bueno que los Fabricantes se pusieran al dia lo antes posible en este tema para que los propietarios dispongamos de la mayor legalidad posible a la hora de circular por las calles.
What if you leave it outside and it starts raining whilst you’re at work?
Wow no words
Updates needed:
- Swappable batteries
- USB-C charging
- Motorised single wheel cargo trailer
✌️
Weight limit??????
Woow... like it
No suspension??
Sell it in USA where it’s legal!
They need to sort laws and rules before selling.
I think they are great but need infrastructure in place and laws changed ?
Great bit of kit though 👍
I just got it yesterday but it show E7 all the times, is it normal?
Hey @Jez0191 - Can you please drop an email to our rider support team here and they'll help solve this for you :)
support.pureelectric.com/hc/en-gb/requests/new
@@RidePureElectric I already exchanged it back to Currys and got a new one that doesn’t have the error.
Please also make removable batteries because we desire to purchase extra batteries for longer range :)
You can remove the battery
It has everything I wanted unless the weight. I pre-booked it then found out about the weight, very well hidden in their site and info, and then regretted booking it in advance. I’ll keep mi Niu 🤷🏻
It's 16kg/35lbs? Not that heavy. Scooters don't get much lighter than this. I thought it would be much heavier
@@batmangsxr300 I thought about 17 kg, didn’t find the info in the official web but somewhere else so I may be wrong. I miss the old 13 kg scooters but I understand those were different, with other configurations. Smaller wheels, almost no brakes. For me heavier than that is heavy! I’m small.
nice if you can afford it , wish I could
Suspension? What is road are not proper or ganular
these are illegal to ride in uk ??????
Yes..
@@hasan_zNo
@@Mr.D.Michael still illegal to use in public in the UK unfortunately, govt is slow to adapt here,
Proper Good
🎉
I would like this but the price is too much for me I'll wait till I see one on sale or on GumtreeUK
JUST ONE MORE TOY, WITH A HUGE PRICE TAG
Bravo..
Repairability?
Hey Vincent, this is a great question, and one we all feel really strongly about at Pure. All our products have been designed with repairability in mind.
For those wanting to do non-warranty repairs themselves, you can see our extensive list of repair videos for our Pure Advance range here: ua-cam.com/play/PLGFOwxkUwbXL0Jq8jhXKbGnO2p4O12Mtr.html
Looking for someone else to support you? Check out our nationwide list of repair partners - www.pureelectric.com/pages/repair-centres
And for anything else, the Pure Electric team is always on hand to help
Even though this design is innovative and forward thinking, in my opinion, nothing beats my E-Micro in terms of robustness and "all go no show" spirit. No electric command = no risk of breakage! And a weight/power/compactness ratio simply AHEAD of all the competitors, guys!!!
can i order one? Im located in the us
We're glad to hear that you're interested in ordering one, right now we're not shipping to the USA but as part of our roadmap, we're wanting to expand to be able to provide all riders access to the new Pure Advance range!
What weight will this take
120kg maximum rider weight 🛴
@@RidePureElectric why no suspension? That would make it safer an more comfortable how could you forget to atleast put a suspension 🤦♂️
@@RidePureElectric you haven't got that information on the website I suggest you should put that information on the website
@@RidePureElectric 120 kg Max rider weight MINUS non-rider weight (clothes + gear) = pure body weight =>=> @ 210 lbs average male adult weight
@@sundo-pf5zv Hi Sundo - it's 120kg total weight, including if someone was wearing a backpack for example
WOW
Very similar to Taur (British design but based in USA)
If only it has 12inch tire like the Apollo City Pro (2023), considering Pure doesn't have suspension.
Im not convinced
1- I weigh 100+kg on hills i still need to push/step to stay above 10km/h
2- the motor power stay the same than the pure Air although i pay double
I owned a pure air for two years aside from the fragile headlight everything was good
I would love to see a pure air extreme with a more robust design (frontlight), integrated lock ,a stronger engine 1000w and removable battery
I had to check the max weight for distance, as i want to purchase one for the gym to use with my weighted vest and equipment, plus my weight and i'm under the amount that would cause problems. Your weight, however, doesn't even come close to me, so i would not even be looking at this scooter. Their maximum weight that doesn't affect mileage is 75kg and you're a 100kg!, so don't do it to yourself, You'll be going 10 miles max each way, if you're lucky, plus you'll be the princess and the pea. You'll feel everything!
Make the speed unlockable! E-scooters aren't legal in the UK so the top speed is irrelevant.
Why not make 12-inch wheel versions of these scooters?
Hi @Appearing Offline, all our speeds have been developed to ensure that our products are viable in countries with e-scooter legislation such as France and Spain, which have 25kmh limits. As a brand we stand by the strong legislation that countries are implementing to ensure e-scooter safety, especially in limiting excessive top speeds.
@@RidePureElectric I didn't know you also sell products in non UK countries. 👍
12 inch wheels would be safer, so consider making a Flex with that.
@@Why-I-Oughta Pretty sure i saw someone using hacked firmware to make it go faster…..could be wrong, it was either a Pure scooter or another brand.
They can be hacked easily....
can this be imported to Canada?
Nice looking scooter but cannot use it on uk roads or walkways
And in uk ur only allowed 250w ?
@@seanroberts9242not even 250w. U r only allowed to use rented scooters.
Nobody takes any notice scooters everywhere no police anywhere either
But it's escooters are banned in the uk so what's the point?
Everyone uses them, police won't pull or stop you if you drive sensibly. It's a like a weird grey area of the law
@@mysteryhombre81r u sure about it? I haven't heard yet from anyone getting fined for using these scooters but still need to make sure.
I like this scooter, but it is not for me as it doesn't have suspension, as is needed for safety and comfort. Also, I need at least 25 mph, as 15mph is not enough for me. I found that 15 mph is very unsafe at intersections. I need to go fast over intersections as other drivers on the road complain about the slow speed and go around me, making it very unsafe.
Isn't pure flex 25mph?
Ребята, производитель, вы придумали гениальную раму!!! Выглядит просто топ! Я вообще ничего подобного не видел! Мне очень многое нравится в вашей продукции! Поворотники в торцы руля - ТОП (хотел также сделать на одной из старой вашей модели), переключатель поворотов - ТОП, система антивоблинга -огонь!
Но есть несколько минусов:
1 мощность мотора (да, она хотя бы стала 500Вт)
2 максимальная скорость. Ну почему только 25?.. Я знаю про закон... Но почему хотя бы не 35 или 30?..
3 конкретно в этой модели очень плохо выглядит передний фонарь... Выглядит дешево, лучше бы оно было встроенно в руль. А еще лучше вместо катафона (с сохранением формы)
4 Почему Ваши самокаты по прежнему без подвески??? Хотя бы передней
Ваша работа меня удивляет и вдохновляет! Я бы с радостью бы присоединился к Вашей команде инженеров!
No compromise, just PURE performance
TAUR was first.
@@Trottinet-work , what do you mean? First in what?
@@Vlad_BFS The first to reintroduce the front facing riding position. Obviously the Autoped was first, but for electric scooters it was TAUR.
Love to read more of your comments. 👍
@@Trottinet-work , interesting, thanks
I'm 18 stone am I too heavy
Yes
Top speed?
25km/hr, he says.
@@imaginova88That's pretty slow
Legalise!!!
I wish it could go 30mph max, 15 isnt cutting it
Yeh it’s never going to be that but yeh I think it’s too slow but guaranteed it be that when law passed. Spare thought for the Germans where it’s 12.5mph!
Simply clock it...
No more 2 people riding!
Next time, come with a 4 wheels.
Yes if buy no service coz pure all shop in uk shut
Hi Felix - We're still here with a dedicated rider support team and operations center in the UK as well as one in France and Spain, that can be there for all riders who need support.
If you ever have an issue, please contact them via our website and they'll be happy to help! - Cheers and all the best, The Pure Team :)
@@RidePureElectric except Twitter is full of people complaining they are not getting responses to service requests or long waits to have stuff fixed. Not great
Its nice but abit pricey at 799
Nice scooter and I like heavy scooters better.
Whilst I appreciate innovation this design has definite flaws..Has pure not heard of weight transfer under braking?? Riding a scooter with feet in that position is fundamentally flawed as the rider could easily go over the handle bar's.
Unfortunately this stance is not safe 😕
Remember the original segway and a balance board they both have the riders standing in that position.
Also the "wings " they kind of remind me of a women's sanitary towel 🤔 and I suspect during a sharp turn they might hit the tarmac or scrap a kerb stone on a busy congested road.
Hi @Jedinbinx, thanks for your comment and raising some really valid points. But it's worth helping you understand how all the exact questions we're raised internally during the initial research phase of the products design.
Our British based Research, Design and Development team have built the Pure Advance range, to avoid these issues by default. With extensive knowledge from testing prototype e-scooters, and from years of previous engineering experience from companies like Jaguar-Landrover, Dyson and Brompton to name a few, the team have developed the new platform based on countless hours of testing and design.
The position of the feet, handlebars and rider center of mass has been optimized through rigorous testing to lower it (through the footplates) and bring it further back (position of the footplates on the chassis) to enhance rider safety. With traditional narrow deck designs, the riders centre of mass is far higher and further forward in line with the front foot.
As such, with the centre of mass improved vs narrow deck scooters, the rider is in a far more stable position by default, and also in hard braking scenario's.
This is also the reason we chose a drum braking system, as this gives a more controlled smooth braking response over disk brakes, this ensures both tyres retain grip with the road without locking up and loosing traction, especially in wetter conditions such as those in the UK.
Chief Technology Officer, Sam Bernard, has explained in our technology deep dive videos, the ways in which we've designed the Pure Advance footpads to be scalloped, to ensure a lower rider centre of mass without the risks of scraping along the ground.
All in all, engineered around the problems you raised, to provide greater levels of safety, control and comfort over existing e-scooters on the market.
If you watch the video in one of the reviews you will see them corner one at speed and their is still lots of clearance between the ground and footplates and the Advance has drum brakes not disk brakes that are much more maintenance free as they are enclosed and not so sharp breaking but stop in similar distance, and your best way to stop on any e scooter in an emergency is to lean back and crouch down putting your weight further back and lower.
My first thought too. It's absolutely crucial to have that bracing front leg when braking!! I'd be terrified to ride this thing.
@@RidePureElectric You can't defeat physics!
PEV devices are illegal to use on public highways and pavements in the UK. In addition , should you be stranded on said escooter because of frequent punctures and/or battery/motor problems., it is also illegal to take your PEV on public transport due to lithium battery fire risk in said scooter. Caveat Emptor!
It's available in other countries where it is legal, so...
@@tombriscoe9886 it’s also available in the UK where it is illegal so…
I find it strange that they ban lithium batteries in scooters on public transport but not e-bikes, phones, laptops, drones and loads of other devices that have the same technology in them. Madness!
It's not illegal to take on public transport, only on London's TFL services. Taxis, Ubers etc aren't and you can even put the scooter rin a bag and carry wherever you want. No one knows what's in your bag.
@@TheLondonCyclist if you conceal an escooter in a bag on TFL and are stopped and searched, the fixed penalty will still be given to you by TFL staff / BT police. Possibly a harsher penalty for concealment also. The reason TFL banned them I think is there are so many imports direct from China into the U.K. via the EU that are not safety certified construction wise or power wise. Hence a lot of scooters handlebar stems snap at the base like mine did and also other issues as they are basically constructed from the slag iron swept up from the factory forge floor, re smelted and cast. Then sold . If they can’t get the basic tensile steel right, it’s a gamble on the battery also.
The stance is questionable, I like it but I know it to be more dangerous. One pot hole and you're superman without the Cape. They need to incorporate suspension 🙄 why they have not done this already beats me. Even the ones you hire although dog ugly have suspension, but this new scooter has none. As far as I'm concerned I'm a designer I can garuantee you if I had the budget and a job at Pure Electric I could easily improve on this design and design a scooter a million times better. Which would beat all other scooters out there on the market... If they want to put me to the test they can. I may sound like I'm blowing my own trumpet but I'm not, I could sketch a scooter that looked better than that with futuristic features never before seen on any other scooter.
I don’t have an issue with the steering technology here which will increase front wheel control but I agree suspension even on just the front wheel like the original base Apollo air had would improve this. I live in Bristol where these were developed and some of the uneven surfaces and potholes are horrendous. Guaranteed when u see this even in person in curry’s u won’t be able to try it so it’s a risk. Other than the lack of suspension and not knowing how I would find the stance I like the scooter but it’s so unique I’d want to try it first before shelling out almost a grand! 🤔
And can you keep the price low? I want a e scooter thay folds so that i can put it anywhere in the train, a suspension, and no more than 15kg with 30km range for 500 euro lol
@@jeanmuyuela8112 Easy buy a kids scooter and tell your to use you own legs and Google maps to track your distance. That you can get for £40, for that price who cares whether you and fold it away on a train 😉 lol. Only kidding lol 15kg is too lightweight batteries haven't improved yet. Once it has you'll find you will get the weight reduction plus more distance. I'm a designer not a scientist when Elon has brought his new battery out then we'll see an explosion of new things to suit everyone.
@@jaydavis4752 current adult scooters takes a lot of space. i feel inconsiderate when i take my scooter with me on the train it took at least 4 suitcases space. this is a design issue.... isn't user experience part of your thing? apologies if i do not understand your purpose. portability is one of the important factor of an e scooter.. might as well have an e bike if it has to be super heavy and bulky...
@@jeanmuyuela8112 I agree size of scooters are a problem especially for how you would use it, keeping in mind everyone uses scooters different. How I would perhaps go about designing your scooter would be to think about how much space do you have in a worst case scenario and go from there. For instance if the space is limited to under a train seat or table then my design ideas would go from there. In most cases fold away E scooters are designed to be put away in the back of a car and heavy enough so you can lift it for a short periods of time. The adds we see on the Internet make out E scooters are lightweight but far from it they are not as you know. So again for your design I'd look at how a scooter could be folded away for public transport users. Could the scooters wheels come off, could the battery? If it did how heavy would they be? is there a way of carrying the wheels or battery once the scooter is folded down and put away? all that is what I would investigate. If it has to be an all in one solution, could we maybe do a whole complete redesign maybe looking at the frame more, looking at does the battery need to be in the base? why not distribute the weight of the battery else where or make the frame the battery looking at new technologies that sort of thing but that's where I'd start. Then form will follow the function. Cost is difficult because one has to be paid for their time and efforts to get all the issues resolved plus materials and who I would need to employ to make a working prototype from my concepts, then to mass manufacture. That would ultimately affect end Price of the product making sure by the time it hits the market the product has been fully tested. I could do it I suppose... if I wanted to be my own manufacturer of E Scooter but I'd rather bring a concept to life and let someone who wants to trade E Scooters for a living do all the selling work and I get paid for making the dream a reality.
Buy a scotter and do a replica rental scooter paint job....job done, plod aint looking that closely
Too expensive, too slow, not enough range.
In the U.K. it’s against the law to ride e scooters on the roads 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Medieval law 😄