Nice project "because you can" :) Have you tried connecting a Netapp direct to the server? Second: Never worked with those enclosures, but the ID number on front is that purely for ease og ID, or does it change some ID setting like scsi ID'ish ?
Good questions,, I have never messed with that ID thingy :-/ But one of them should work. I need a cable from the server to the QSFP in the NETAPP to test that...
The connectors on the Netapps' I/O modules are SFF 8436 (i guess). I think the other end is referred to as SFF8088. I've seen that these cables are sold (with two different ends). But I have never used them. First of all, I suggest you take a look at the user manuals. Are you using IMO3 or IMO6 I/O modules on those? Even that would make some difference... Have you ever tried a system like GlusterFS? Maybe it would be easier for you to create a cloud-like storage... If you have another HBA device and cables that you can plug NetApps into... Have a nice day :)
Hi You can connect the two DS4243/46 with QSFP-QSFP and then only need 1 cable(QSFP-SFF8088)to the raid card. I have 5 daisychain like that with iom6 controlers bute it works with IOM6 or IOM3. I dont recomend connection with the HP storage, just do a direct netapp-raid card connection and you are done. Greetings from Portugal
Hp doesn't like to play, it moans at my set up as it tries to read the bod controller. Still works for me, but I'm not linked. You could try running the one port to share both go boxes and the other port for netapps. That way it should work. " I said should.. " Or its two cards in the server, going out to each and then software joining them for the storage... SAN...
There can be a limit to how many drives a controller can handle,,, minimum I have seen is 64 drives, but as it is already seeing 70 it must be higher, and I have seen not expensive controllers that would take 1024 drives.
Hi sir i have g9 server lff for Co-location and can you please help me to buy some hdd? My server will handheld files and software to download and and with a small wbb site
sell all 10tb move to 18and 20tb use half the juice, have half the rack space used - you should see what the pro chia farmers use - they passed 1 petabyte a long time ago
hmm 350+420+36+110+102= .. well 350+420 would be 770, 110+102 would be 212+36 would be 248, 770+248 would be 1,018, I think you added 66 instead of 36.
Hi Koenig-Gaming.de I do get this question from time to time, so I have added it to my F.A.Q. that you can check out under the "about" tab here on my channel. I give a longer answer there. docs.google.com/document/d/10tNReA70PsMT4dnyyg6-DdCyFEVcAI9WMizq1SNBibY/edit?usp=sharing Thank you for watching! :-)
Hi SKY NET CYBER SYSTEM 3 TECH I do get this question from time to time, so I have added it to my F.A.Q. that you can check out under the "about" tab here on my channel. I give a longer answer there. docs.google.com/document/d/10tNReA70PsMT4dnyyg6-DdCyFEVcAI9WMizq1SNBibY/edit?usp=sharing Thank you for watching! :-)
@@MyPlayHouse hello sir I admire you very much and I'm learning thanks to you I started getting to know the first server when I was 21 years old now I'm 43 years old the first server wuiek min brought in 2000 the first year I had difficulties in learning at school but somehow I managed I got the first server of a very old generation on scsi I managed on my own and got a job in a computer service noi I use a pension because I have 2 groups of moderate degrees but somehow I'm getting to know technology I'm learning technology and I want to create something and I admire the work of servers and computers I like to travel and now create music and simple films hello sir i really admire your skills
No I did have all the NETAPP trays. But when I found out that the IBM ones fidded and looked better I sold the NETAPP trays,, and for good money to :-)
Spent 12 billion on police budget and can't stop a yard gettin broke in because spent on me incase I knock 1 out my god I'm the most expensive brass in the wherled
The same point as airline pilots practicing in a simulator: so that when you need it, you know what to do, and what can go wrong. (Paying customers rarely look favorably on companies that have "issues" when setting up a system.)
There is no point,, just like EVERYTHING else in your world! zoom out a million miles,, why is that little boy, wasting over 10% of his short life to learn stuff,, he is gone in a little bit anyway.
Why dont you use simply an HBA and connect those DAS boxes directly to it?! Still dont understand why do you bother keeping a raidcard + windows if theres a simpler and faster methode to get what you want. As i said, try an HBA with External connectors and use TrueNAS instead of windows...
@@rschrader i know but what hes doing is painful to watch sometimes and he do plays too much with his das bozes because the raid controller not working as he expected. I would rather switch to a hba and check if it is solves my problems. But we are not the same :D
I do not believe this has anything with the Raid Controller to do,, it more like the D6000 not talking with the DS4243's. HBA is fine for small budget setup's or very big setup, where the server is only doing storage (the server becomes the raid controller) But if you start to take good expensive servers and waste their processing power on the storages operations that you can buy dedicated hardware for, at a prices of 10% of what the server costes. I do not think that is worth it.
@My PlayHouse hba is fine , if you want software defined storage like zfs. As zfs must know everything about the drives smart state. Raid controllers are specialized hw and a single point of failure. If a raid controller fails, your whole array will be down. On the other hand you just have to swap the bad hba and good to go, no further configuration is needed while with raid cards there is a reconfiguration process and most of the time you have to restart the server to access raid card settings (as most servers are running on top of linux and no fancy software is available to configure it while the server is running). And cpus are fast enough to handle zfs calculations etc. I do agree that sharing the resources is bad idea and in big scale you want to separate things. But this is purely homelab situation and most of us, at least in Europe choose the shared resources way because we can't afford to run 3-4 servers idling around the whole day.
Nice project "because you can" :)
Have you tried connecting a Netapp direct to the server?
Second: Never worked with those enclosures, but the ID number on front is that purely for ease og ID, or does it change some ID setting like scsi ID'ish ?
Good questions,, I have never messed with that ID thingy :-/ But one of them should work.
I need a cable from the server to the QSFP in the NETAPP to test that...
@@MyPlayHouse I just received my netapp ds4243. ID setting on front is just for organization. Has no effect on operation.
The connectors on the Netapps' I/O modules are SFF 8436 (i guess). I think the other end is referred to as SFF8088. I've seen that these cables are sold (with two different ends). But I have never used them. First of all, I suggest you take a look at the user manuals. Are you using IMO3 or IMO6 I/O modules on those? Even that would make some difference... Have you ever tried a system like GlusterFS? Maybe it would be easier for you to create a cloud-like storage... If you have another HBA device and cables that you can plug NetApps into... Have a nice day :)
Thank You,, I have ordered a 12Gb (SFF-8644) to QSFP Cable in hops that the raid controller can see a boks directly.
@@MyPlayHouse you can buy a 12gb but if you have iom3 its only 3gb and iom6 its 6gb.
Hi
You can connect the two DS4243/46 with QSFP-QSFP and then only need 1 cable(QSFP-SFF8088)to the raid card.
I have 5 daisychain like that with iom6 controlers bute it works with IOM6 or IOM3.
I dont recomend connection with the HP storage, just do a direct netapp-raid card connection and you are done.
Greetings from Portugal
I just got a cable to try that :-)
HDD powered heat pump 🤩
I think it is more like SpinHeat,, it did not heat for that long,, I shout it back down,,after filming :-/
Seeing all m3 powered off tells me the light bill day is arriving
I am not so happy today
I probably should be selling some...
Hp doesn't like to play, it moans at my set up as it tries to read the bod controller. Still works for me, but I'm not linked.
You could try running the one port to share both go boxes and the other port for netapps.
That way it should work. " I said should.. "
Or its two cards in the server, going out to each and then software joining them for the storage... SAN...
The cable to try that,, just arrived.
I never understood why you have so many drives haha are you still mining chia?
I still have the plots,, but I stopped farming Chia.
Do you have enough bandwidth on your storage controller for all those drives? If not you may need a SAS expander.
There can be a limit to how many drives a controller can handle,,, minimum I have seen is 64 drives, but as it is already seeing 70 it must be higher, and I have seen not expensive controllers that would take 1024 drives.
The only youtuber beside LTT to do 1PB?
Jeff Geerling did as well
If you search "1PB" there are a few :-)
Hi sir i have g9 server lff for Co-location and can you please help me to buy some hdd?
My server will handheld files and software to download and and with a small wbb site
Best of luck Eli, I do not want to get involved.
sell all 10tb move to 18and 20tb use half the juice, have half the rack space used - you should see what the pro chia farmers use - they passed 1 petabyte a long time ago
Maybe,, it´s hard to keep up :-)
nice video and more storage plz😀
Will do soon
hmm 350+420+36+110+102= .. well 350+420 would be 770, 110+102 would be 212+36 would be 248, 770+248 would be 1,018, I think you added 66 instead of 36.
I cough it, and corrected it later in the video.
Because we can 🙂
I have no better excuse..
What do you store on all those servers and hard drives?
That is a big problem,, I do not have anything that takes up that much spaces.
How much you pay for energy every month?
Hi Koenig-Gaming.de
I do get this question from time to time, so I have added it to my F.A.Q. that you can check out under the "about" tab here on my channel. I give a longer answer there.
docs.google.com/document/d/10tNReA70PsMT4dnyyg6-DdCyFEVcAI9WMizq1SNBibY/edit?usp=sharing
Thank you for watching! :-)
at 13:00 you said you have 1048tb but you made it wrong.. you take the 6 on the 36 instead of the 3.. you have 1018TB
Thank You,, I fixed it later in the video..
@@MyPlayHouse I finish the video after my comment
: )
Hi Ole Morten Njærheim
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
👍super
Hi SKY NET CYBER SYSTEM 3 TECH
I do get this question from time to time, so I have added it to my F.A.Q. that you can check out under the "about" tab here on my channel. I give a longer answer there.
docs.google.com/document/d/10tNReA70PsMT4dnyyg6-DdCyFEVcAI9WMizq1SNBibY/edit?usp=sharing
Thank you for watching! :-)
@@MyPlayHouse hello sir I admire you very much and I'm learning thanks to you I started getting to know the first server when I was 21 years old now I'm 43 years old the first server wuiek min brought in 2000 the first year I had difficulties in learning at school but somehow I managed I got the first server of a very old generation on scsi I managed on my own and got a job in a computer service noi I use a pension because I have 2 groups of moderate degrees but somehow I'm getting to know technology I'm learning technology and I want to create something and I admire the work of servers and computers I like to travel and now create music and simple films hello sir i really admire your skills
Ibm server with hp trays because not having right trays
No I did have all the NETAPP trays. But when I found out that the IBM ones fidded and looked better I sold the NETAPP trays,, and for good money to :-)
xch mining?
I have done that :-)
Spent 12 billion on police budget and can't stop a yard gettin broke in because spent on me incase I knock 1 out my god I'm the most expensive brass in the wherled
I do not follow.
Unfortunately wrong math.. The total is 1018TB! Sorry
You was very quick at pointing that out,, Thank You! I managed to get it in the video :-)
@@MyPlayHouse Yeah, I saw that at the end but I did the comment earlier.
very nice, but what's the point?
The same point as airline pilots practicing in a simulator: so that when you need it, you know what to do, and what can go wrong. (Paying customers rarely look favorably on companies that have "issues" when setting up a system.)
There is no point,, just like EVERYTHING else in your world! zoom out a million miles,, why is that little boy, wasting over 10% of his short life to learn stuff,, he is gone in a little bit anyway.
Why dont you use simply an HBA and connect those DAS boxes directly to it?! Still dont understand why do you bother keeping a raidcard + windows if theres a simpler and faster methode to get what you want. As i said, try an HBA with External connectors and use TrueNAS instead of windows...
Hi. Morten just plain loves tinkering with things - old and new. There’s always a right way to do things, a wrong way and a Morten way!!! 😁
@@rschrader i know but what hes doing is painful to watch sometimes and he do plays too much with his das bozes because the raid controller not working as he expected. I would rather switch to a hba and check if it is solves my problems. But we are not the same :D
I do not believe this has anything with the Raid Controller to do,, it more like the D6000 not talking with the DS4243's.
HBA is fine for small budget setup's or very big setup, where the server is only doing storage (the server becomes the raid controller) But if you start to take good expensive servers and waste their processing power on the storages operations that you can buy dedicated hardware for, at a prices of 10% of what the server costes. I do not think that is worth it.
@My PlayHouse hba is fine , if you want software defined storage like zfs. As zfs must know everything about the drives smart state. Raid controllers are specialized hw and a single point of failure. If a raid controller fails, your whole array will be down. On the other hand you just have to swap the bad hba and good to go, no further configuration is needed while with raid cards there is a reconfiguration process and most of the time you have to restart the server to access raid card settings (as most servers are running on top of linux and no fancy software is available to configure it while the server is running).
And cpus are fast enough to handle zfs calculations etc. I do agree that sharing the resources is bad idea and in big scale you want to separate things. But this is purely homelab situation and most of us, at least in Europe choose the shared resources way because we can't afford to run 3-4 servers idling around the whole day.
What about reaching out to Linus Sebastian.
I think he is all good :-)
Sweet 😂
Well still need the last little bit :-)
@@MyPlayHouse I destroyed like 150 drives back in the Netherlands and about 20 older servers (super micro)