@jposh707, Re: "I can never get over the fact that in the UK, public school is called private school, and private school is called public school. How is an elite school that hardly anyone can get into considered "public?" Unbelievable." What is really a 'private' school, or what would be referred to as a 'private school' in America is referred to as a 'public school' in the U.K and what is really a 'public' school or what would be referred to as a 'public school' in America is referred to as a 'state school' (i.e funded or run by the state) in the U.K. I think what are now seen as 'private schools' are referred to as 'public schools' in the U.K because they came about before 'state schools' (what would probably otherwise be known as 'public schools' and what are known as 'public schools' in America) came into existence, so at the time these 'elite' schools that only well off people can go to (and what would be known as 'private schools' in America) were the closest thing to 'public' schools around at the time, most people would have been allowed to attend as long as they had the money to pay for it and I suppose it would have been more 'public' than having been 'privately' educated at home by a governess or something... ;)
Yes, your comment reminds me of the numerous contradicting concepts and views, ruling Britain. It's my belief that the strict and expensive boarding school system in Britain has caused (and still causes) tremendous damage to the minds of boys who once entered the gates of these schools, where freedom of thinking and empathy were bullied out of them. These boys are to this day the old boys club in parliament.
In England, schools that are run by private citizens, or members of the public, rather than the government are called "public school". The other schools are government schools or state schools, none are called private schools.
I can never get over the fact that in the UK, public school is called private school, and private school is called public school. How is an elite school that hardly anyone can get into considered "public?" Unbelievable.
There would be some tutoring available, of a limited kind from schoolmasters and such, but it would not have been available to most people or taken up by any but the most socially ambitious. Before the 18th century, even that would have been exceedingly rare. Even that wouldn't be guaranteed to win you a place, and most people would direct their kids education towards vocational or political stuff.
I have been searching for the definition for a while, Thanks! Could private tutors be provided to middle class kids who wanted to advance or was there simply not that kind of opportunity back then?
there was 750 million people in india when this was made? it went up to 1.2 billion pretty fast. they grew a population the size of the entire united states in like 1 generation.
Because when those schools began centuries ago, there were no other schools, so they were for the 'public' rather than private tutors for the aristocracy. Since the late 19th century the distinction is they are independent schools, rather than state-run schools you're thinking of as 'public'. It's like Ivy League schools in America: anyone is eligible to apply, you just have to be really good and/or of a certain social class to get in.
It makes me wonder where you live, gilesderoet. Which planet? A few rides on the bus in Britain, during rush hour, with a group of posh school-kids, shows clearly how a pecking order and ostracizing looks like. .".. a certain social class to get in" That's equal to saying "a certain social class in not so blissful ignorance of arrogance". It's Britain's shameful retardedness, living on an island, with an irrational sentimental nostalgy, trying feverishly to live in the past. What a delusion!
So according to that indian girl. In india if you know english that means you educated. That is a unusual thing. We can get many people who just know english but they not educated but india they will be seen as educated
The matrimonial rules in India have changed by now more than 3 decades later. That statement reminds me of the attitude in the '50s in The Netherlands.
there are too many unsubstatiated claims about English and how widespread it is and how little other languages rate in the world. . This vt. needs references. . cheers. from, del-boy.
As a Frenchman, i'm delighted and thankfull for the whole serie.
This was made in 1986. I love the reference to "the wireless" at 0:29. This term meant something very different twenty-five years ago. :-)
I like the way the radio announcer says "immediately." He says it like "Im-MEED-yut-lee."
These are a really interesting series.
@jposh707,
Re: "I can never get over the fact that in the UK, public school is called private school, and private school is called public school. How is an elite school that hardly anyone can get into considered "public?" Unbelievable."
What is really a 'private' school, or what would be referred to as a 'private school' in America is referred to as a 'public school' in the U.K and what is really a 'public' school or what would be referred to as a 'public school' in America is referred to as a 'state school' (i.e funded or run by the state) in the U.K.
I think what are now seen as 'private schools' are referred to as 'public schools' in the U.K because they came about before 'state schools' (what would probably otherwise be known as 'public schools' and what are known as 'public schools' in America) came into existence, so at the time these 'elite' schools that only well off people can go to (and what would be known as 'private schools' in America) were the closest thing to 'public' schools around at the time, most people would have been allowed to attend as long as they had the money to pay for it and I suppose it would have been more 'public' than having been 'privately' educated at home by a governess or something... ;)
Yes, your comment reminds me of the numerous contradicting concepts and views, ruling Britain. It's my belief that the strict and expensive boarding school system in Britain has caused (and still causes) tremendous damage to the minds of boys who once entered the gates of these schools, where freedom of thinking and empathy were bullied out of them. These boys are to this day the old boys club in parliament.
In England, schools that are run by private citizens, or members of the public, rather than the government are called "public school". The other schools are government schools or state schools, none are called private schools.
I can never get over the fact that in the UK, public school is called private school, and private school is called public school. How is an elite school that hardly anyone can get into considered "public?" Unbelievable.
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Thanks for posting these vids? Do you have the ebook?
There would be some tutoring available, of a limited kind from schoolmasters and such, but it would not have been available to most people or taken up by any but the most socially ambitious. Before the 18th century, even that would have been exceedingly rare. Even that wouldn't be guaranteed to win you a place, and most people would direct their kids education towards vocational or political stuff.
I have been searching for the definition for a while, Thanks! Could private tutors be provided to middle class kids who wanted to advance or was there simply not that kind of opportunity back then?
there was 750 million people in india when this was made? it went up to 1.2 billion pretty fast. they grew a population the size of the entire united states in like 1 generation.
Because when those schools began centuries ago, there were no other schools, so they were for the 'public' rather than private tutors for the aristocracy. Since the late 19th century the distinction is they are independent schools, rather than state-run schools you're thinking of as 'public'. It's like Ivy League schools in America: anyone is eligible to apply, you just have to be really good and/or of a certain social class to get in.
It makes me wonder where you live, gilesderoet. Which planet? A few rides on the bus in Britain, during rush hour, with a group of posh school-kids, shows clearly how a pecking order and ostracizing looks like.
.".. a certain social class to get in" That's equal to saying "a certain social class in not so blissful ignorance of arrogance". It's Britain's shameful retardedness, living on an island, with an irrational sentimental nostalgy, trying feverishly to live in the past. What a delusion!
not any more. nine parts and it's glorious.
三個月前，我對解密還沒找到最關痛癢的穴位.
現在，在此高度是一覽眾山小,語言學家們望塵莫及了.
Really? What do they think?
It is not a "Limey" show, it is about the English language around the world. And, it is not "american" the narrator is speaking, but rather Canadian.
So according to that indian girl. In india if you know english that means you educated. That is a unusual thing. We can get many people who just know english but they not educated but india they will be seen as educated
every guy in today's society wants his wife to know english because he wants to move around in clubs .. lol!
The matrimonial rules in India have changed by now more than 3 decades later. That statement reminds me of the attitude in the '50s in The Netherlands.
there are too many unsubstatiated claims about English and how widespread it is and how little other languages rate in the world.
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This vt. needs references.
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cheers.
from,
del-boy.
@edwardschlosser1 Excuse me, but what does any of this have to do with the video posted here?
Renfro1982 It's been a while, but clearly that commenter was deranged by smoking weed too often.
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ha! aversive therapy at its finest. there there, now. let's not any of that tittering, young fellows.
Wow, that's...just ridiculous. I'm constantly stunned that sane people can swallow shit like that.
You sound like ranting for the sake of ranting. Cheap.
@jposh707 Makes absolutely no sense.