I used to joke that the TFL guys could do a video about a toaster and make it interesting. Flash forward to 2020 and it has been done......and I was not disappointed. 👍
I think this is a very underrated aspect to bev pickup truck's. The ct will come standard with a 240v outlet. And with things like solar bed covers? You could power your travel trailer, or tiny home. And with the sun shining not even use much if any of the tow vehicle's range. 🤔
You can tow the travel trailer with the super duty and then power it with the shitty F150. It's a real game changer. Shout out to the honda 7k generator for not changing the game
No sane person is fully charging an EV like this, but charging about 1 mile every 2 minutes means you get 8 miles on 15 minutes. Usually that is plenty to get to a charging station. 15 minutes is a nominal stop for a tow truck. This is a game changer for EVs and tow companies.
Exactly. Besides most electric serious generators are Diesel anyway so it would be perfect in a Super Duty Diesel truck to have not only this HEV but mostly PHEV technology to be usable in big cities in its pure EV mode.
You won’t need “superduty” anymore with the F-150EV. You get the power of the power stroke, probably even more torque, but get the efficiency of a small econobox car. Folks, trucks as we have know it is about to be turned upside down & the dealers HATE IT. No more expensive ass oil changes, no more expensive fuel, no more gearbox and rear end fluids to break down, the shop is ALMOST pointless (the $$$ in a dealership) I’ve been EV since 2014, but still retain my 2014 F350 Platinum for camping. As soon as I can get rid of diesel, the better !
@@tobyray8700 I wish that was the case but when towing a high profile camper power isn’t near the most important thing but I do get where you are coming from
@@daniels2761 The reason you buy a generator for much cheaper is because it's obviously not a whole freaking truck... what's your point ? The generator is built in and is a 800$ add on to the truck which is funny enough cheaper then many generators.... So you basically get a cheap generator and an actual truck altogether that can do what a generator does and more and better even.
@@pryme2013 Why would you need to stay home 24/7 ? If it's for emergencies and or specific certain situations then that doesn't make sense, also the fact that if you are trying to power your home then you should be at your home....
@@derekwood3189 brother in law has a new 2019, shifts hard as hell and dealer can’t fix it and it burns 2qts of oil in between oil changes. 4 if he’s towing. Junk. Maybe you’ve got a good one.
I’m a little suprized it has taken this long for a true hybrid to be made. I think car companies started talking about hybrids what 20 years ago and it took this long to get a functional one
Legacy automakers are greedy and lazy, they’d rather keep doing the same old thing and keep milking the profits. One of the main reasons they are even making more PHEVs and BEVs now is because Tesla is pushing the whole industry forward.
Exactly... this isn't cutting edge tech, it's simply something they finally decided to implement based on competition. Ford could have slapped a hybrid powertrain and DC->AC inverter on their trucks a decade ago. New competition is good.
But you can only get the pro power with the hybrid, can you can only get the hybrid with the King Ranch, Platinum and Limited. Need it in the XL for it to be good for work trucks.
@@2000blackstang omg, if Ford makes a base F150 hybrid for fleet sales, that's happiness thru the roof and sales will skyrocket. Never liked GM fleet trucks tbh.
Depending on the placement of the power plug, you could power a travel trailer while towing it long distance so that the refrigerator and freezer are functional
This is actually awesome! Could you imagine camping with a trailer and being able to go fully off grid and run the heater or A/C and appliances all running off your truck that just idles and making barely any noise?? That would be a cool video guys!
Ugh, this is a true need for boondock camping, can run absolutely everything and is almost silent compared to a regular generator!! Brilliant and will absolutely be on my next F150 purchase!
@@TFLnow Now that somebody mentions it,a cooking test with it might be interesting. And maybe run a small electric heater during a winter camping trip. But only try those if you can do so in a somewhat safe manner. For example,if you winter camp do so next to a warm building you can retreat to if things go wrong. And maybe have a watch dog with you. I would like info,not to be responsible for bad things happening.
a built in 7kWt generator? its just brilliant. Powerin RV with it is one thing, the other thing is you can run pretty powerful sound system for those in the middle of nowhere parties. We are usually rent huge generator for this along with several canisters of gas which take quarter of the truck bed. I think this feature is just awesome.
I’ve never really been a Ford enthusiast. I grew up in a “Fix-Or-Repair-Daily” mentality even though I can’t back that up. This hybrid experiment 🧪 was an eye opener!! And so I am now convinced and converted!! My next real world truck will be a Ford F-150 hybrid. I may never do any real off-roading or power an entire construction site, but I have been through enough natural disasters that I am certain that the F150 hybrid truck is going to be a life saver. I can’t wait to get one!!!
Hybrids are usually lame, but this is a useful feature that just makes sense. I think you guys just sold a ton of f-150s haha. Ford should thank you and give you an apology haha
Great video. “Cuz we can”. A fantastic motto. Honda generators are well made, but I can get an 11,500 watt continuous duty Champion generator from Costco for $999 Cad/$745 usd. They are super reliable, and I use it to power my big air compressor and welders all the time in my shop. You could easily use this truck to go help stranded ev’s in a pinch.
Truly a game changer for someone boondocking with a small travel trailer that doesn't care too much about efficiency, but wants convenience. No loud generators or gas cans to worry about. You could run this even during "no generator" hours in a campground or state park and no one would even know.
Great video and more relevant than one might think. Looking for a truck to use on construction sites to charge multiple 6-9 AH Dewalt battery packs for power tools, at the same time as running corded tools that draw more power than battery packs can normally handle. Importantly for me, I need backup power at my cottage which is remote, on a grid that goes down frequently (every wind storm) and where using loud portable generators is a pain for many reasons. Thanks. Keep doing reviews that are practical and real world. The F-150 might not be ideal for charging an EV, but the point is it will do the job if and when required.
My grandpa and I have been doing this for years with our old 90 ranger and my 86 f250 leave the pig idling charging up a couple car batteries under our cabin. Run it while you cook and it gives you enough charge to have lights and tv for the night.
I never buy the first year of a new vehicle, but the 2022 F-150 Platinum with the hybrid engine will be mine! We go camping a lot, that fact alone is enough for me to make use of the on board power. The 24 MPG on our cross country trips (a lot compared to our current 13.7) is just a bonus. I'm not a green freak by any standards, but what Ford is doing right now is just amazing.
That is in the works. The F-250 will get it next. My hope is that the 7.3 and 6.8 gas engines will get the hybrid, not just the diesels. Although diesels make better generators.
Would absolutely love a weekend warrior test on this. Can you dry camp realistically with only the truck as a generator. Gotta test in summer though when using the A/C, winter would be easy.
“Gage A and B” are telling you “Line 1 (115v) and Line 2 (115v) It’s a split panel like a house would have. But you can only run 15A at 115v per line. Really awesome option non the less, but this would be vary far from running your average house like some people are asking.
Thanks for the informative review of the generator. 3 gallons of gas is approximately 100 kWh of thermal energy according to EPA (33.7 kWh/gal). The charge station for the i3 registered 18 kWh, so the truck generator at 7,200 watts is 18% efficient. This seems reasonable. Even the most efficient gas engines waste 60% of the energy as heat, then the electric generator is not 100%, etc. You should try the same test with the i3 at "reduced" charge to see if efficiency is more or less at 50% load. I have asked for a hybrid to add a generator for years. Powering a house after a storm with the truck you already have is so much better and quieter than those crappy noisy generators people get. Not going to be stolen as easily either.
Really cool, I installed a 1500 watt inverter into my 2018 Chevy Volt. Very nice to have. A person could easily have a transfer switch installed and run a cable to power their house off the 240 volt in that truck.
This video was great. Was it as much fun to make it as it was watching it? Ford should really get over their issues with you guys because you got me interested in something high tech (a miracle) & I was actually wondering how great it would be to have this truck. If I have thoughts of buying one because of this video, there's gotta be dozens of other people thinking the same.
I used to joke that the TFL guys could do a video about a toaster and make it interesting. Flash forward to 2020 and it has been done......and I was not disappointed. 👍
I can see this generator mode being very useful for people with travel trailers. No need for a separate generator you could run your entire trailer including AC off of that and would be putting less load on it than this test. You wouldn't want to do it for a week at a time but for an overnight stop somewhere it would work great.
The Ford F150 used for charging....is the inverter a modified sine wave or pure sine wave unit? I have found some devices DO NOT like modified sine wave!
@@steak8278 I would "assume" it's pure sine wave but I haven't seen anything in the marketing brochures that say one way or the other. I will say that there are MANY inverters out there that are only modified sine wave. If an inverter or inverter generator doesn't specifically state "pure sine wave" I would assume it's modified.
Very cool and interesting information. I concur with the others who stated this is an intriguing option for a whole home backup solution if wired in as a bypass for 240W.
Depends, I have a 12kw generator and it consumes about 1 gallon per hour - basically the same as this. The truck is definitely quieter and probably much cleaner emissions though.
Nice experiment. This could definitely power my camp site for a solid weekend with little noise (would be interested to know what the dB was at idle). I hope next video for this F150 Hybrid is range. I think it's claiming a 700 mile range. Would like to see real world testing with and without a trailer (3.5K+ LBS). Get to it!
Great test. Very useful charging demonstration. There is going to be a lot of interesting uses for this in the real world. I drive a 2017 F-150. Zero troubles other than the block heater repair. Now looking at this 2021 version.
I'm normally not a fan of Ford, but I have to admit this 2021 f-150 hybrid is pretty impressive. I doubt I'd ever charge an EV with it but great to use as a genny for camping or at home when the power is out.
Awesome idea for a test. Really great by Ford as well. It makes me wonder how much more advanced this technology can get in 5, 10, 20+ years. These things are gonna be VERY popular along the gulf coast ⛈
Let’s see which one performs better when they’re both on the market. Fords is a hybrid, not an electric vehicle. Oh and cannot be paired with a rear locker, how exciting.
Might want to have a look at Ford’s debt burden, and the implication that has on its free cash flow, which in turn has further implications on its operations and how it is viewed by investors. Ford has over $150 billion of total debt on its balance sheet. The market capitalization you’re quoting of $36 billion is a net number; the implied gross asset value of Ford would be $186 billion ($150 + $36). Tesla on the other hand has a much lower debt level; Tesla has a bit over $10 billion in debt, which gives an implied gross asset value of $550 billion ($540 + $10). So if you assess the companies based on assets, which is a more meaningful comparison, Tesla is being valued at roughly three times the level of Ford. Comparing just market capitalization without accounting for debt is misleading. If you account for the massive drag such a high debt burden has on growth potential then it starts to make a lot more sense. Ford’s ANNUAL interest expense is over $10 billion! Ford pays more on interest in just ONE YEAR on its debt than Tesla owes on its ENTIRE debt obligations. Instead of investing money into research and development and over value generating activities, Ford is forced to service huge interest payments. This issue isn’t just limited to Ford.
@@tb1951 Valuations are a super tricky area! Strictly speaking, the valuation of a company is the value today of all of it's future profits. There are so many assumptions that go into a valuation that they're really just a probability weighted best guess, which is picked from a high-low range. Market capitalization valuations for listed companies end up being bets today between buyers and sellers based on what they think will actually happen in the future, and whether a company will be able to execute on its plans (or not). Tesla is a very interesting situation. On the face of it, it's easy to compare Tesla to other car companies because, well, it makes cars. However, it's more nuanced than that, which is why Tesla (at the moment) offer the potential for significant returns in the future; there are several significant business lines, such as insurance, that existing manufacturers simply can't compete with. In my opinion, Tesla has some absurd upside potential in terms of its products and services over time, however, equally, it's entirely possible that this potential is never fully realized. In short, I think their valuation reflects a belief that they will continue transforming mobility and energy in a big way. Just my opinion.
This hybrid truck makes sense if you tow a trailer for camping so you can generate your own power without a campground hookup like boondocking. That is a big advantage.
I think the main thing to take away from this, is you can rescue stranded EV's that have ran out of range and give them enough to reach a charging station...
The question is, would you ask them to pay for the gas you burn to charge their battery? Keep in mind that they probably despise you for driving a truck powered by icky hydrocarbons in the first place.
I would say that the main take away is that you can max out the system for a long time and it works fine. So if needed you can power basically any tools, welder and what nots up to 7,2kW. That is alot.
@@luisbarraza9709 You could carry a 5kW Honda generator and 5 gallons of gasoline. That would double your range, if you didn't mind waiting for hours beside the road to charge your battery. Or better yet, run the generator while you drive your car, and plug it into your charging port. Charge while your drive!
How about a small pickup camper connected to the generator? Consider HVAC via a heat pump. Cooking via an induction stove or small microwave. I once owned an Alaskan camper that would raise and lower that would be perfect here. Great video.
This is why Ford owns the pickup truck segment. A true game changer that takes a hybrid and creates something unique that everyone never knew they wanted until now.
The energy content of that gas is over 100 kWh. Most of it is just wasted, even when it moves the truck. Goes to show how incredibly inefficient gas engines are.
This has nothing to do with efficiency, it's all about convenience. Like, why hosed someone wait 40mins at a charging station to charge up their car when it only takes 5 mins to full up a gas tank.
Never mind energy efficiency. What is the financial efficiency of a gas vehicle versus electric? I just bought a brand-new gas car that has 400 mile range; average driver of this car achieves 45 mpg; and it cost me $11,820 before taxes; didn't have to build a garage and install a charging station. The small electric cars are about the same size and utility; have less range; have a shrinking fuel tank over time, and cost almost three times as much before adding the garage and charging station. I'm all for electrics, but they've got to get where they can compete where it counts. Not to mention, the fuel cost is much higher, which off sets the efficiency advantage by a quarter.
Those A & B labels are for the phases coming from the inverter. That 240V is just using the hot from each 120V line, that's why it looks split in power usage on the gauge. My concern with this is that you plugged a 50A device into an adapter to make it fit into a 30A plug.
This is great for emergency situations especially traveling through Texas. I believe it's the I-10 that has one of the longest areas with no gas station.
This is why the F150 is number one. Ford always innovating and thinking ahead. First full hybrid truck and a very powerful built in generator along with a completely new and tech advanced interior.
I know this is a very late reply, but the comment on the split wattage is normal. North America is a 240V country. We just use split-phase power, to step it down to 120v at our junction boxes. When you have a 240V outlet in your home, you're basically just bridging 2 120V circuits together, giving you that 240V. Essentially, our 240V plugs just draw 120V twice.
This is quite fascinating and very admirable on Fords end. If you had a friend that was stranded and needed a boost you could definitely tow him/her to a safe location, provide a charge if needed, and get them to their destination. Thats impressive. Although, the ultimate test of anything is reliability in time. Time being the ultimate factor here especially for something as iconic as the F150 that prides itself on "built Ford tough" and prolonged reliability.
This is a great option for those who don't want to have a separate generator around for power outages, camping or construction but it will burn more fuel than a generator. Depending on the engine option you choose, it will be 7 to 13 times larger than what's typically found in a 7000w generator. I just wonder how tuff the face of that generator unit is. We've already got the in-bed lights beat out of ours from tossing in materials.
Out of curiosity, how much fuel would those portable generators use in comparison. Also as noted by others, when you were talking while charging with the f150, I couldn't hear the engine. Same could not be said about the 2 generators demonstrated. Maybe not an issue on a noisy job site, but in a campground where I want to run my rv ac at night, that could be a big deal. As long as people don't park these things over dry grass, this seems like a good feature.
Wonderful video. It also shows how efficient the modern electrical grid is. 18 kWh, depending on where you live, would cost you less than 1 gallon of gasoline on your electric bill.
Love the inclusion of temperature monitoring (more plz) and fuel consumption testing. Ford is doing great work, now let's see the Pro Power Onboard option be mass produced and readily available, hope this happens.
I used to joke that the TFL guys could do a video about a toaster and make it interesting. Flash forward to 2020 and it has been done......and I was not disappointed. 👍
Disappointed he did not actually make delicious sourdough toast. He could've made a whole meal!
Best comment! Haahaaaa!
This new technology is making me hornie
Yep basically the excitement of a toaster over and over
F-150, America in a nutshell!!!!
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This is a game changer for RV industry... power your travel trailer from the tow vehicle.
opens up electric adventure vehicles too. Like electric dirtbikes and quads
I think this is a very underrated aspect to bev pickup truck's. The ct will come standard with a 240v outlet. And with things like solar bed covers?
You could power your travel trailer, or tiny home. And with the sun shining not even use much if any of the tow vehicle's range. 🤔
I completely agree!
You can tow the travel trailer with the super duty and then power it with the shitty F150. It's a real game changer. Shout out to the honda 7k generator for not changing the game
Yes! Needs to be a 2500 though. 5th wheels. 😉
If your the owner of a towing company this would be really cool tool to use for dead EVs.
Maybe to try to wake up a totally dead machine but nobody in a tow company sits still for 5 minutes. That car is coming off the road asap.
No sane person is fully charging an EV like this, but charging about 1 mile every 2 minutes means you get 8 miles on 15 minutes. Usually that is plenty to get to a charging station. 15 minutes is a nominal stop for a tow truck. This is a game changer for EVs and tow companies.
I am super impressed and I really hope Ford adds this to their Super Duty line up which is where its really needed
Exactly. Besides most electric serious generators are Diesel anyway so it would be perfect in a Super Duty Diesel truck to have not only this HEV but mostly PHEV technology to be usable in big cities in its pure EV mode.
@@nevco8774 no one is going to put hours on an expensive diesel engine in an industrial setting. They will use a dedicated onboard generator.
@@daniels2761 it will be for the weekend warrior though. It’s an amazing feature to have in case of emergency
You won’t need “superduty” anymore with the F-150EV. You get the power of the power stroke, probably even more torque, but get the efficiency of a small econobox car. Folks, trucks as we have know it is about to be turned upside down & the dealers HATE IT. No more expensive ass oil changes, no more expensive fuel, no more gearbox and rear end fluids to break down, the shop is ALMOST pointless (the $$$ in a dealership) I’ve been EV since 2014, but still retain my 2014 F350 Platinum for camping. As soon as I can get rid of diesel, the better !
@@tobyray8700 I wish that was the case but when towing a high profile camper power isn’t near the most important thing but I do get where you are coming from
This truck would be great when the power goes out at the house. No need for a portable generator and the gas cans taking up space in the garage.
yep, pull the emergency handle on the door, open door... back truck out and backfeed house lol!
Yeah great and you have to stay home 24/7 because you can't drive your generator places lol way to think it through.
You can buy a generator much cheaper than this pickup.... and the big thing is that running a dedicated generator won't put hours on your pickup.....
@@daniels2761 The reason you buy a generator for much cheaper is because it's obviously not a whole freaking truck... what's your point ? The generator is built in and is a 800$ add on to the truck which is funny enough cheaper then many generators.... So you basically get a cheap generator and an actual truck altogether that can do what a generator does and more and better even.
@@pryme2013 Why would you need to stay home 24/7 ? If it's for emergencies and or specific certain situations then that doesn't make sense, also the fact that if you are trying to power your home then you should be at your home....
I’m a Toyota guy but Ford is making it very interesting, I’m tempted
Don’t be. It’s still a shitbox ford. It can charge stuff but how long will the truck last? How much when all that junk break on that truck?
I’m a Ram guy and I’m having the same problem.
@@JayTdub13 probably not the battery or the nav
they're much better these days. 150 on my '14 with the 5 liter and no problems at all. Pretty close to new.
@@derekwood3189 brother in law has a new 2019, shifts hard as hell and dealer can’t fix it and it burns 2qts of oil in between oil changes. 4 if he’s towing. Junk. Maybe you’ve got a good one.
Great video Tommy. You're without a doubt the most clear and efficient presenter at TFL.
Agreed! Quickly becoming the most knowledgeable too, imho
OMG. This guy sucks. He's almost worse than Doug DeMoron. Almost.
I’m here from Austin Tx after living through “Snowpocolypse” two weeks ago and losing power for 72 hours! I want this Ford!
The F-150 just became the first outdoor restaurant, tiki bar, and best barbecue that a tailgater could want! Franchises available here at TFL!
Also RV boondocking
I’m a little suprized it has taken this long for a true hybrid to be made. I think car companies started talking about hybrids what 20 years ago and it took this long to get a functional one
Legacy automakers are greedy and lazy, they’d rather keep doing the same old thing and keep milking the profits. One of the main reasons they are even making more PHEVs and BEVs now is because Tesla is pushing the whole industry forward.
Toyota has been making functional hybrids for decades, but few outside of taxi companies cared.
Exactly... this isn't cutting edge tech, it's simply something they finally decided to implement based on competition. Ford could have slapped a hybrid powertrain and DC->AC inverter on their trucks a decade ago. New competition is good.
I don't think that ford came up with that oven night probably working on that at least 5 or so years plus no demand till Tesla entered in seen
Toyota has been making true hybrids since the 90's. Have you been sleeping.
This is very impressive. I imagine this will be a big seller especially for construction workers
But you can only get the pro power with the hybrid, can you can only get the hybrid with the King Ranch, Platinum and Limited. Need it in the XL for it to be good for work trucks.
@@rizzoyo8557 on the ford site you can get the hybrid in all trims
@@rizzoyo8557 it’s an option for every trim level, including base xl’s
Yes I think the Ford fleet sales will be going well over there normal sales. And they already are way over any other brand
@@2000blackstang omg, if Ford makes a base F150 hybrid for fleet sales, that's happiness thru the roof and sales will skyrocket. Never liked GM fleet trucks tbh.
Pulling max power for hours and nothing gets hot. Great design Ford!! Toyota RAM and GMC/Chevy must be 😡😭🤣 with envy.
Depending on the placement of the power plug, you could power a travel trailer while towing it long distance so that the refrigerator and freezer are functional
Even more importantly...the AC. Fridge can chill on propane while traveling. A hot trailer takes hours to cool.
Many fridges already run on the 12V DC supply that all trucks give RVs
This is actually awesome! Could you imagine camping with a trailer and being able to go fully off grid and run the heater or A/C and appliances all running off your truck that just idles and making barely any noise?? That would be a cool video guys!
7.2kW... I have a 3kW inverter mounted in my truck’s tool box.
I guessed 3 gallons just before you finished topping off the truck.
I guessed 2.3
More reasons for me to buy the Ford.
Ugh, this is a true need for boondock camping, can run absolutely everything and is almost silent compared to a regular generator!! Brilliant and will absolutely be on my next F150 purchase!
Tommy didn’t say “brilliant.” Unless I missed it. I must have missed it.
my deepest apologies -Tommy
Maybe he didn't exactly say it, but it was definitely implied. 😉
Brilliant
@@TFLnow Now that somebody mentions it,a cooking test with it might be interesting. And maybe run a small electric heater during a winter camping trip. But only try those if you can do so in a somewhat safe manner. For example,if you winter camp do so next to a warm building you can retreat to if things go wrong. And maybe have a watch dog with you. I would like info,not to be responsible for bad things happening.
FORD charging TESLA.............noice
That’s a BMW...
@@ghostrunner2138 Watch the full video
@@MichaelMartinNfldtoTexas To be fair it was a BMW tho
@@austinreed347 Go to 18:41. Yes they did a BMW, but also a Tesla....didn't I say see the WHOLE video?
And that is an honest, independent and surprising review.. Keep it up and give us more!!
You should hook it up to somebody’s house and see how it does!
That'll be amusing. Since you can power two different RVs.
That is why so many people here in PR are interested in this verison.
@@darthyoda6782 OH NOOO💔💔💔
Very interesting innovative idea, keep on surprising us, guys !!
Been thinking the same thing
a built in 7kWt generator? its just brilliant. Powerin RV with it is one thing, the other thing is you can run pretty powerful sound system for those in the middle of nowhere parties. We are usually rent huge generator for this along with several canisters of gas which take quarter of the truck bed. I think this feature is just awesome.
Just watch out that you don't run the gas in your tank down to where you can't get back!
Mom: "Tommy where are you with my toaster and blender"
Tommy: "uuhh F150 electric powertest for stuff outside....uuuhh love you"
Tommy knows your Mom?
Correct answer is tailgating!
I’ve never really been a Ford enthusiast. I grew up in a “Fix-Or-Repair-Daily” mentality even though I can’t back that up. This hybrid experiment 🧪 was an eye opener!! And so I am now convinced and converted!! My next real world truck will be a Ford F-150 hybrid.
I may never do any real off-roading or power an entire construction site, but I have been through enough natural disasters that I am certain that the F150 hybrid truck is going to be a life saver. I can’t wait to get one!!!
Hybrids are usually lame, but this is a useful feature that just makes sense. I think you guys just sold a ton of f-150s haha. Ford should thank you and give you an apology haha
Going significantly further per gallon of gas is anything but lame.
Great video. “Cuz we can”. A fantastic motto. Honda generators are well made, but I can get an 11,500 watt continuous duty Champion generator from Costco for $999 Cad/$745 usd. They are super reliable, and I use it to power my big air compressor and welders all the time in my shop. You could easily use this truck to go help stranded ev’s in a pinch.
I wonder if ford will adapt this system to a transit van? Would definitely be interesting.
More practical cause lots of convert them to campers
Truly a game changer for someone boondocking with a small travel trailer that doesn't care too much about efficiency, but wants convenience. No loud generators or gas cans to worry about. You could run this even during "no generator" hours in a campground or state park and no one would even know.
Very interesting innovative idea, keep on surprising us, guys !!
Great video and more relevant than one might think. Looking for a truck to use on construction sites to charge multiple 6-9 AH Dewalt battery packs for power tools, at the same time as running corded tools that draw more power than battery packs can normally handle. Importantly for me, I need backup power at my cottage which is remote, on a grid that goes down frequently (every wind storm) and where using loud portable generators is a pain for many reasons. Thanks. Keep doing reviews that are practical and real world. The F-150 might not be ideal for charging an EV, but the point is it will do the job if and when required.
I’m impressed at how low the RPM is maxed out.
400hp is 300kw
@@captainkirk3000 ?? I was trying to say I was impressed with how the F-150 can generate full load while maintaining such a low RPM.
@@Treyk901 I didn't attack you
My grandpa and I have been doing this for years with our old 90 ranger and my 86 f250 leave the pig idling charging up a couple car batteries under our cabin. Run it while you cook and it gives you enough charge to have lights and tv for the night.
This is why I’m buying the hybrid F150 to pull and power my Airstream Bambi
I never buy the first year of a new vehicle, but the 2022 F-150 Platinum with the hybrid engine will be mine! We go camping a lot, that fact alone is enough for me to make use of the on board power. The 24 MPG on our cross country trips (a lot compared to our current 13.7) is just a bonus. I'm not a green freak by any standards, but what Ford is doing right now is just amazing.
I have a generator interlock on my house! bring it on up and we'll run my entire house off it for a bit haha!
Guys, this was awesome! U answered ALL my questions about the f150 thus far. I wondered how it would behave when fully taxed and there u go.
Can you report on whether or not the generator mode works while driving??
yes it does!
That was an incredible test, I learned a lot about generators and charging. Thanks TFL!
I see this being more useful in the super duty
That is in the works. The F-250 will get it next. My hope is that the 7.3 and 6.8 gas engines will get the hybrid, not just the diesels. Although diesels make better generators.
That’s 9.65HP coming out of the plugs at full tilt. The engine isn’t stressed, but the inverter is at its limit. Impressive stuff!
Great vid.. very interesting!!! Yes I finally want a hybrid !!
Would absolutely love a weekend warrior test on this. Can you dry camp realistically with only the truck as a generator. Gotta test in summer though when using the A/C, winter would be easy.
Hook the truck up to a RV and see what if everything works, including the a/c and heat. And also how long will it last for
“Gage A and B” are telling you “Line 1 (115v) and Line 2 (115v) It’s a split panel like a house would have. But you can only run 15A at 115v per line. Really awesome option non the less, but this would be vary far from running your average house like some people are asking.
Not gonna lie, that’s really impressive
Really interesting for sure! First hybrid I would actually consider buying. That’s going to be a game changer for people with campers!
"What I have here is a toaster"
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Thanks for the informative review of the generator. 3 gallons of gas is approximately 100 kWh of thermal energy according to EPA (33.7 kWh/gal). The charge station for the i3 registered 18 kWh, so the truck generator at 7,200 watts is 18% efficient. This seems reasonable. Even the most efficient gas engines waste 60% of the energy as heat, then the electric generator is not 100%, etc.
You should try the same test with the i3 at "reduced" charge to see if efficiency is more or less at 50% load.
I have asked for a hybrid to add a generator for years. Powering a house after a storm with the truck you already have is so much better and quieter than those crappy noisy generators people get. Not going to be stolen as easily either.
I'd like to know the TFL staffer who thought of doing this test. It's foolish, asinine,...yet brilliant. Good going, Blaze! :-)
The type of content ONLY TFL can do. I really enjoyed this
Your mom is ass-a-nine.
Thank you for using the IR thermometer. Was very curious about the temp of the plugs.
Try towing an ev up the Ike gauntlet while charging it at the same time!!!!!!!
That could be a middle finger to the tesla tug of war video
That's a great idea.
If an ev could charge while driving I'd have it flat tow the F150 and compare the battery range of towing while not charging vs towing while charging.
Really cool, I installed a 1500 watt inverter into my 2018 Chevy Volt. Very nice to have. A person could easily have a transfer switch installed and run a cable to power their house off the 240 volt in that truck.
7000 watts is about 60 amps on 120v and 30 amps using 240v This truck can easily power an entire home.
yep! i power mine with a 6500 watt generator when the power goes out.
Officially, you're one of my favorite UA-camrs out here!
Question to ask Did your truck use gas or electric to drive to the gas station if it used gas then it used less fuel charging
Both gas and electricity
This was a wild test. This is the main reason why I love TFL. Thanks again
Engineering Explained charged a Tesla by towing it around a track. Try that, see if you use less fuel.
Yes!
This video was great. Was it as much fun to make it as it was watching it? Ford should really get over their issues with you guys because you got me interested in something high tech (a miracle) & I was actually wondering how great it would be to have this truck. If I have thoughts of buying one because of this video, there's gotta be dozens of other people thinking the same.
Jeep PHEV needs this feature or they really dropped the ball.
I used to joke that the TFL guys could do a video about a toaster and make it interesting. Flash forward to 2020 and it has been done......and I was not disappointed. 👍
I can see this generator mode being very useful for people with travel trailers. No need for a separate generator you could run your entire trailer including AC off of that and would be putting less load on it than this test. You wouldn't want to do it for a week at a time but for an overnight stop somewhere it would work great.
The Ford F150 used for charging....is the inverter a modified sine wave or pure sine wave unit? I have found some devices DO NOT like modified sine wave!
@@steak8278 I would "assume" it's pure sine wave but I haven't seen anything in the marketing brochures that say one way or the other. I will say that there are MANY inverters out there that are only modified sine wave. If an inverter or inverter generator doesn't specifically state "pure sine wave" I would assume it's modified.
Very cool and interesting information. I concur with the others who stated this is an intriguing option for a whole home backup solution if wired in as a bypass for 240W.
That's waaaaay more efficient than a portable generator, very cool!
Depends, I have a 12kw generator and it consumes about 1 gallon per hour - basically the same as this. The truck is definitely quieter and probably much cleaner emissions though.
How do you figure?
@@bob15479 maybe referring to the exhaust system which includes muffler and catalytic converter. I have to imagine those might help...?
@@kinetocore thats e missions not efficiency. We need a test.
@@bob15479 Oh you are correct, I was specifically referring to "The truck is definitely quieter and probably much cleaner emissions though."
It would be a nice combination for camping when you have an ebike in the back to go exploring. Never have to worrying about charging.
Good job Tommy
Nice experiment. This could definitely power my camp site for a solid weekend with little noise (would be interested to know what the dB was at idle). I hope next video for this F150 Hybrid is range. I think it's claiming a 700 mile range. Would like to see real world testing with and without a trailer (3.5K+ LBS). Get to it!
Thumbnail shows Tesla which doesn’t make an appearance until 18:37 of a 20 minute video. Nice work! 😂
Great test. Very useful charging demonstration. There is going to be a lot of interesting uses for this in the real world. I drive a 2017 F-150. Zero troubles other than the block heater repair. Now looking at this 2021 version.
sounds like a great emergency service for electric vehicle owners... too bad there are very few
Nah ev owners can just pay for a tow to a station.
I'm normally not a fan of Ford, but I have to admit this 2021 f-150 hybrid is pretty impressive. I doubt I'd ever charge an EV with it but great to use as a genny for camping or at home when the power is out.
ford might actualy have a chance not to go bankrupt with this truck
Awesome idea for a test. Really great by Ford as well. It makes me wonder how much more advanced this technology can get in 5, 10, 20+ years.
These things are gonna be VERY popular along the gulf coast ⛈
TSLA - $540B no realistic electric truck
F - $36B the most practical electric truck in the world for sale at every dealer.
Me: what the fuhh...
Let’s see which one performs better when they’re both on the market. Fords is a hybrid, not an electric vehicle. Oh and cannot be paired with a rear locker, how exciting.
Might want to have a look at Ford’s debt burden, and the implication that has on its free cash flow, which in turn has further implications on its operations and how it is viewed by investors. Ford has over $150 billion of total debt on its balance sheet. The market capitalization you’re quoting of $36 billion is a net number; the implied gross asset value of Ford would be $186 billion ($150 + $36). Tesla on the other hand has a much lower debt level; Tesla has a bit over $10 billion in debt, which gives an implied gross asset value of $550 billion ($540 + $10). So if you assess the companies based on assets, which is a more meaningful comparison, Tesla is being valued at roughly three times the level of Ford. Comparing just market capitalization without accounting for debt is misleading. If you account for the massive drag such a high debt burden has on growth potential then it starts to make a lot more sense. Ford’s ANNUAL interest expense is over $10 billion! Ford pays more on interest in just ONE YEAR on its debt than Tesla owes on its ENTIRE debt obligations. Instead of investing money into research and development and over value generating activities, Ford is forced to service huge interest payments. This issue isn’t just limited to Ford.
@@stefanleonte3155 good stuff. Thanks for breaking that down a bit more. So how overvalued do you think tesla is right now?
@@tb1951 Valuations are a super tricky area! Strictly speaking, the valuation of a company is the value today of all of it's future profits. There are so many assumptions that go into a valuation that they're really just a probability weighted best guess, which is picked from a high-low range. Market capitalization valuations for listed companies end up being bets today between buyers and sellers based on what they think will actually happen in the future, and whether a company will be able to execute on its plans (or not). Tesla is a very interesting situation. On the face of it, it's easy to compare Tesla to other car companies because, well, it makes cars. However, it's more nuanced than that, which is why Tesla (at the moment) offer the potential for significant returns in the future; there are several significant business lines, such as insurance, that existing manufacturers simply can't compete with. In my opinion, Tesla has some absurd upside potential in terms of its products and services over time, however, equally, it's entirely possible that this potential is never fully realized. In short, I think their valuation reflects a belief that they will continue transforming mobility and energy in a big way. Just my opinion.
This hybrid truck makes sense if you tow a trailer for camping so you can generate your own power without a campground hookup like boondocking. That is a big advantage.
I think the main thing to take away from this, is you can rescue stranded EV's that have ran out of range and give them enough to reach a charging station...
The question is, would you ask them to pay for the gas you burn to charge their battery? Keep in mind that they probably despise you for driving a truck powered by icky hydrocarbons in the first place.
I would say that the main take away is that you can max out the system for a long time and it works fine.
So if needed you can power basically any tools, welder and what nots up to 7,2kW. That is alot.
This! I’ve been close to running out of juice just a few miles from home. This would be clutch to just give enough electrons to get home.
@@luisbarraza9709 You could carry a 5kW Honda generator and 5 gallons of gasoline. That would double your range, if you didn't mind waiting for hours beside the road to charge your battery. Or better yet, run the generator while you drive your car, and plug it into your charging port. Charge while your drive!
How about a small pickup camper connected to the generator? Consider HVAC via a heat pump. Cooking via an induction stove or small microwave.
I once owned an Alaskan camper that would raise and lower that would be perfect here. Great video.
How expensive of a repair will it be when someone hits that bed..lol...
Or something loose in the box hits that whole unit. Just like the GMC multi function tailgate. Thousands of dollars!
This is why Ford owns the pickup truck segment. A true game changer that takes a hybrid and creates something unique that everyone never knew they wanted until now.
The energy content of that gas is over 100 kWh. Most of it is just wasted, even when it moves the truck. Goes to show how incredibly inefficient gas engines are.
This has nothing to do with efficiency, it's all about convenience. Like, why hosed someone wait 40mins at a charging station to charge up their car when it only takes 5 mins to full up a gas tank.
Never mind energy efficiency. What is the financial efficiency of a gas vehicle versus electric? I just bought a brand-new gas car that has 400 mile range; average driver of this car achieves 45 mpg; and it cost me $11,820 before taxes; didn't have to build a garage and install a charging station. The small electric cars are about the same size and utility; have less range; have a shrinking fuel tank over time, and cost almost three times as much before adding the garage and charging station. I'm all for electrics, but they've got to get where they can compete where it counts. Not to mention, the fuel cost is much higher, which off sets the efficiency advantage by a quarter.
@@kwan3560 Why go to the gas station at all when you can just plug in at home?
@@gregoryfaulkner5345 Horses were cheap vs cars in 1920. That's where we are now.
@@olamarvin why plug in at home when there are numerous gas stations around 🧐
I love seeing those output meters maxed out. Beautiful.
Now all it needs is a window sticker that says official EV recovery vehicle
Those A & B labels are for the phases coming from the inverter. That 240V is just using the hot from each 120V line, that's why it looks split in power usage on the gauge. My concern with this is that you plugged a 50A device into an adapter to make it fit into a 30A plug.
Oh how I can’t stand the Ford ding
This is great for emergency situations especially traveling through Texas. I believe it's the I-10 that has one of the longest areas with no gas station.
How dare you do that?
As a Tesla fanboy you are hurting my feelings.
but its not even a Tesla...
Impressive performance by the F150. For camping, this seems like an ideal generator - built in and quieter.
This is why the F150 is number one. Ford always innovating and thinking ahead. First full hybrid truck and a very powerful built in generator along with a completely new and tech advanced interior.
I know this is a very late reply, but the comment on the split wattage is normal.
North America is a 240V country. We just use split-phase power, to step it down to 120v at our junction boxes. When you have a 240V outlet in your home, you're basically just bridging 2 120V circuits together, giving you that 240V. Essentially, our 240V plugs just draw 120V twice.
Awesome FoMoCo showing there appreciation to TFL for honest reviews.
I think it’s a really good test, with the in-efficiency of charging it’s really cool.
Appreciate the use of correct units and a few basic calculations, and discussion of charging rate controls on the BMW and Tesla vehicles.
This is quite fascinating and very admirable on Fords end. If you had a friend that was stranded and needed a boost you could definitely tow him/her to a safe location, provide a charge if needed, and get them to their destination. Thats impressive. Although, the ultimate test of anything is reliability in time. Time being the ultimate factor here especially for something as iconic as the F150 that prides itself on "built Ford tough" and prolonged reliability.
Amazing work guys 👏🏼. Interesting test. Hopefully others manufacturers embrace this same technology on their trucks and SUV’s.
This is a great option for those who don't want to have a separate generator around for power outages, camping or construction but it will burn more fuel than a generator. Depending on the engine option you choose, it will be 7 to 13 times larger than what's typically found in a 7000w generator. I just wonder how tuff the face of that generator unit is. We've already got the in-bed lights beat out of ours from tossing in materials.
Out of curiosity, how much fuel would those portable generators use in comparison. Also as noted by others, when you were talking while charging with the f150, I couldn't hear the engine. Same could not be said about the 2 generators demonstrated. Maybe not an issue on a noisy job site, but in a campground where I want to run my rv ac at night, that could be a big deal. As long as people don't park these things over dry grass, this seems like a good feature.
Wonderful video. It also shows how efficient the modern electrical grid is. 18 kWh, depending on where you live, would cost you less than 1 gallon of gasoline on your electric bill.
Ya know awesome as this is, I can't help but wonder how a diesel electric hybrid system would do
Found its way in texas! Good call!
Love the inclusion of temperature monitoring (more plz) and fuel consumption testing. Ford is doing great work, now let's see the Pro Power Onboard option be mass produced and readily available, hope this happens.
Thanks, it's got a big stationary generator and can handle small inductive loads.