Hello, a life coach who was not certified helped me immensely more than I could've dreamed of. A piece of paper means nothing, real life experience is more valuable
Absolutely true. Paper is not worthless, BUT it just shows someone has jumped through hoops do get that. It says zero about their abilities. A person's experience counts for a lot.
I can agree with this, but it takes a heavy amount of trust to absorb their advice. I feel like this therapist is mistaking a life coach with an "influencer", maybe
I'm no expert, but I'd say a life coach is more 'getting your shit together' orientated, and therapists are more 'understand how your childhood affects your behaviour and change your subconscious mind' orientated. Both work for helping and bettering a person, but life coaches seem to work a little more on external parts of a client's life, whereas therapy is more internal. But both should have plenty of cross-over. And agreed, ability is the key measurement, but certification helps creditability if you have a range to choose from when you've not experienced any of the choices. Although it's not essential, it guarantees a professional standard on at least a basic level. Certified could be anywhere between OK and amazing. Not certified can mean anywhere between awful and amazing. Again, all one person's perspective here...
A couple weeks in with my life coach has helped me handle my mental illness more than 4 years with therapists. I feel like half of therapists are just inept, all they do is sit and listen and don't try to actively help.
I think this is because Life coaches know they are always compared to therapists, and they must have this feeling of inferiority because of this comparison, and people tend to make extra effort when they are the underdogs.
I agree Some Therapist are passionate about what they do and others string you along for money. I am a Certified Life Coach and before I was certified, My passion & Life Experiences helped me to help ppl equally as much, if not more than a Therapist.
@@juliemelville2945 improvements to one's mental health can be a side effect of coaching. Matter of fact, that's kinda the point. Acknowledge & respect it, but also know how to navigate *around it*. In that, a person can take the focus off off their "mental speedbump", learn various healthy shifts & move forward in spite of it.
I have a huge respect for therapy... When it's the right fit at least. What I've experienced myself plus heard is that therapists will focus on getting a functional or diagnosis-meds & off-you-pop. There's no added momentum or support to keep going beyond that. OR the therapist treats you as though you are your mental illness/ trauma rather than an actual person.
I just started working with a life coach and she has a huge disclaimer in her documents that say she is not a therapist and does not provide those services. And I really appreciate that. She was actually recommended to me by my therapist and I have given both of them releases so they can speak to each other about what might be helpful for me. I'm working with her so she can help me on my career path, something my therapist can help with me only to a certain extent. I think life coaching is valuable but only if used appropriately :)
I am in the process of becoming a life coach, I am already thought about the disclaimer that will mention I'm not a therapist and also a questionnaire for the new client asking what they expect from a life coach, just to get a clear idea.
A good life coach will listen, acknowledge and question to allow their client to find their own answers, I don't think taking a course and getting accreditation means someone will be a better coach. I have seen plenty of experienced therapists who were useless.
You are right; it goes both ways. An experienced and degree are very different when it comes to capabilities for either therapist or a life coach. I am a certified life coach I am glad you have benefited from a life coach. I invite you to subscribe to my channel to continue blooming on your life journey.
@@origi.não through my college, they have a subscription to a counselling website, which is free for all students. the website itself isn't great, but i looked at profiles and i was gravitated towards her profile. she probably was one the most professional and dedicated experts there
The development of the life-coaching industry has several benefits for both individuals and companies. With the help of life coaching, you can improve your relationships, establish new professional ambitions, and reach your personal objectives.
Personally, I am aware of one's importance. The importance of sound financial guidance cannot be stressed because, while experiencing my fair share of the market's downside, I was able to scale from $18k to 57k using the strategies my coach advised.
@@bradsandler3526 I agree totally because. Hearing from someone who has done it all is always motivating, but occasionally it can be frightening to see your portfolio change from green to red.
@Mary Alchester I say this as someone who has actively and passively engaged. I agree that it's best to consult a professional. I was able to build a $262k portfolio that is earning and learning passively with the aid of Yvonne Annette Lively research. I am already aware of the essence of one.
I studied psychology and chose to become a life coach instead. It is precisely the diagnosing aspect of therapy that I find problematic. It creates more problems that it is supposed to fix.
Hi Helen, I agree. Psychology is such a broad topic and I have seen the DSM-5 Manual, it's huge. How can a therapist focus on your healing if they're focused on labeling you as being sick and following criteria for the illness, this system needs to be disrupted. From my experience, due to the lengthy wait of approaching things in therapy, I have lost motivation in the past. I'd rather go to someone who has solved the problem and has the same experiences as I do.; they are more relatable.
I am a certified life coach as well and I thank you for commenting on this. I am also getting my Masters in Marriage and Family Therapy so I am getting the best of both worlds, in my opinion. I think that it is critically important for people to know the major difference between life coaches and therapists so that they can find the best person to suit their needs. You are awesome!
I always think of life coaches as people who set goals and encourage and therapists as people who diagnose, look at past behaviors, correlate them to their current situation and assist clients in making the changes they desire. I am a mental health therapist and it seems like that's often the difference between the two professions in my area
I totally agree wit you Brittany. I’m certified Life& Wellness coach and I guide my clients to achieve goals and support them to accomplish better future for themselves, some of my clients have been doing therapy at the same time. I see a lots of improvement working together with a coach and therapist. 🙏
I’m a certified life, relationship and dating coach (most of my clients are for dating) and I try to never keep a client more than 12 weeks. The max I will is 16. That is a value I hold for myself as a coach and my clients. Probably 60% of my clients are seeing a therapist as well and I hold strong boundaries about suggesting clients tackle something that comes up with their therapist if it’s not a coaching issue.
I love that you suggest therapy for client. Coaching and therapy can totally go hand in hand. So many therapists feel threatened when there is no reason. Also, there are so many forms of therapies and so many forms of coaching (I'm a certified health and life coach, though I'm not practicing at the moment), there are SO many options!
I find most therapists are relieved their client is coming to see me bc they don’t want to talk about dating during their time together. Or they would rather focus on other things. They also aren’t always up on the current dating trends and challenges either.
Hi. I've completed my psychology and then did life coaching through Australia. I consistently reminded everybody on the calls what the differences are between therapy and coaching. I've also had two clients who were 'stuck' and I asked them to make contact with a therapist. The biggest difference I have noticed is that therapy is about healing and coaching is about future movement. I love working with therapists, especially the kind like Katie.
Thanks for this clarity. So I didn't know that what I needed is a therapist. I went to coaching, and she wanted me to move on fast. I wanted to tell her my disappointments, anger, what led to it, how it affected me and I had them all mapped out in front of her, but she just didn't want to bother. She kept on saying, yes I acknowledge there was such things in the past, but what are you gonna do now? You have to focus on how you wanna live next, things like that. Then she promised to look into my printed proof/email of what had caused me to be at this state now, in the next session. On the next session she didn't keep her promise, quickly brush off, treat it as not important, in a rush to get me move on, and that actions caused me another blow and trauma. Her dismissive attitude happened for 3-4 sessions and I decided not to go meet her again. That was my first encounter with a phycolog (life coach as you may put), and will be my last one. I'm traumatised to the extent that I think I won't be able to heal in this life time.
@@xierli8585I’m sorry that you had that experience. I hope you found a great therapist to work with once you realized that that was what you really needed. I pray for healing for you and for progress, as well.
As a life coach, I really appreciate this video! I know I wouldn't have been at a place to receive coaching myself or study to be a coach/ offer coaching services without the inner reflection therapy has offered me. I love how you present the combo of coaching & therapy as a "team" - I find that my clients who do the best have this dual support and am blessed to work with both myself. One thing to mention, many coaches don't necessarily give 'advice' per se, but rather help clients wade through their own stories to uncover their own personal truths. Love your channel, thank you!
Certified Professional Coach here. I have been certified by PhD Psychologist Sharon Livingston. I can honestly say, my coaching certification program ACTUALLY was my therapy, along with actual therapy for my childhood trauma. I learned so much. It all inspired me to get into the field and I am now working my way as a Clinical Psychology student to becoming Doctor of Psych in a Mental Institution. Coaching is about the present and the future helping HEALTHY individuals. Therapy is about the present and the past and healing. I want to be able to provide both.
I am a certified life coach. I have combined my life coaching with other self-help strategies like mindfulness and brought that to my clients through experiential learning with horses and dogs. I have been doing this for a couple of years now and have seen incredible results. Most of my clients work with therapists or social workers as well and they find the combination to be extremely helpful for them. I love your videos!! Thank you for making them!
i had no idea life coaches existed. also my therapist said that i have BPD tendencies, maybe even BPD itself, and she told me to watch your videos on it bc i told her how much you’ve helped me. thank you for all that you do!!!
I sincerely hope you found your healing. BPD is a blockage of expression, usually of a fundamental human virtue like betrayal, hate, love, fear, comfort, justice, purity, care. Exposure to the expression of suppressed emotions helps heal
As a certified life coach, I completely agree with everything you said, with one small modification. Coaching, at least the style I believe works best, is much more question-focused than advice-focused. It's all about figuring out what the client wants and how to get there in a way that suits that individual.
I have a question if you're willing to answer. I feel I have a good life plan. I spend a lot of time thinking about what actions I should take to get to where I want to be. The issue is execution. Ive planned so much and tried many things for a long time to modify my actions or establish a routine that would lead to the improvement of my life. But the routine really just boils down to me wasting a lot of time every day, then being extremely distraught about it at work. Is a life coach more in figuring out what someone should do to get to where they want to be? Or is it more getting them to do what they should to get to where they want to be? Like are they able to help me become more disciplined? I have ADHD and that may be a part of it, but the way I live now makes me feel like such a looser. I'm thinking of getting a life coach because my batting average for self controll is not very good.
I've been a life coach (mindset coach) for going on 11 years and have helped countless young adults get their life in order successfully (mindset, habits, personal finances, etc.) and I also spent nearly 3 years helping fellow veterans pro bono with their post-military career transition. Certifications mean little and it's VERY rare that anyone asks about them or even cares. People come to you for results. Period.
I got Autism, PTSD, Crohn's Disease and asthma. I got autism specialised coaches. My previous coach was certified and she was awful. She ignored everything my psychologist said, and just because I didn't have a diagnosis for it yet (it was Crohn's) and my doctor didn't believe me, she decided I was just spoiled and forced me to do all kinds of stuff that was bad for my health. So she went both against my mental and physical health needs, just because she didn't believe me, nor my psychologist. Within 8 months she had gotten me 5 times more sick than I was before I met her, and I was in mental health crisis. Now I have 3 coaches. My sister, a new certified coach, and a non-certified coach who did have a lot of trainings and knowledge. I have never been happier with my coaches. My sister picks up any urgent needs that I have throughout the day, and guides me through appointments that might be hard for me. My certified coach helps me sort out social stuff that happened, understand that social stuff, helps me make life plans, helps me to fill out forms, etc. She also functions as a jobcoach. My non-certified coach utilises her training methods to get my thoughts in order so that I don't get overwhelmed, she has a history in helping people with finances and she uses that to help me get a better grip on my finances (I have no depts, but it just takes up too much energy to keep it all in order. This coach makes it easier), and she also helps me with social understanding. Mostly she keeps order in my life which I need a lot. Soon I'll be moving into a new house and we'll be making a lot of lists. I appreciate all three of my coaches and need all three of them, even though just one is certified. And my old certified coach destroyed me. So being certified or not doesn't really mean a lot to me anymore. What matters more to me is proper knowledge on the subject, respect for my psychologist, working together with my psychologist, respecting me as a full human being capable of making my own choices (I know not all clients can do this. But if it hasn't been proven by a psychologist the client can't do this, you respect their choice-making-rights), supporting neurodiversity, being able to support me in my needs. That's all that I really care about. Anyone else can buzz off, even if they're certified. (Same goes for therapists, psychologists and doctors in my opinion by the way. I don't care if you're certified; if you do a bad job and/or don't respect me as a full human being, you're out)
Update! Moving into my own house went well. I live here for a bit more than a year now, and I'm really happy. 😊 My finances and administration are now in order, and I got a full grip on them. The coach who helped me with that has left, because her job is done, and instead I got a coach who helps me figure out my identity and where I want to go from here. I still have my other coach who helps me with my daily stuff, and my psychologist. I need my sister's support less and less, as I become more independent. I'm happily moving forward. 😊
@@ChibiYotsuba Thats so great to hear!!! 👏🏻👏🏻💪🏻 Im a nurse and I'm finishing my bachelor's degree in psychology hopefully in less than 2 years from now. I want to coach and serve like I've always have but I started psychology because I really want to try to understand my clients psychology so I can REALLY help them with everything I got. This week I signed up for a nutrition program so I can also learn how to give them a proper diet and lifestyle. Your story truly inspires me and yeah its a shame cause your right, not everyone is qualified to be a coach. Hopefully that won't happend to me and if it happens I'll try to learn from it and get better. Excuse me, I know my english suck... working on that too lol
As a certified life coach, I absolutely respect and appreciate your perspective! It is ABSOLUTELY important to draw the line and even go so far as to work in tandem with a therapist. In my business I have several different types of therapists that I work with so that my clients are getting every single bit of help that they need.
I would say be careful how that’s implied because mental disability exists on a sliding scale and I think it’s remiss to say that all life coaches can help people at any stage of impaired mental disability, in my experience as a person with both a physical and very slight mental disability.
I m not sure calling them developmental disabilities is very empowering, plus we all have areas of life that we just power along at and others where stuff gets in the way. Are these really developemental disabilities or just life? life coaches are used by the top echelons of society (decision makers) as much as the person in the street.
Agreed! A certified life coach in tandem with therapy is awesome! I haven't seen one personally, but I do take advantage of free livestreams, UA-cam videos, and self help books. I use life coaches to help fine tune my goals. Therapy is necessary to solve the root of my issues, but life coaching is like seasoning. I like learning a variety if coping strategies, to see what works for me.
Thank you so much for sharing the difference between a therapist and a life coach. I am a certified life coach. I worked hard to get the certification. I love working with people in particular with accountability. I find coaching and teaming with medical professionals to help clients achieve their goals very rewarding. I make sure it is very clear I am not a medical professional or therapist, I help in achieving the goals set forth by them.
Finally somebody said something logically thank you 🙏 First things you need to know when you start to certification program if the person have a sign of mental pathology we need to guided on to a therapist.couches works with different disciplines.
Not even true. My life coach helped my anxiety ten times more than months of therapy, just in the first hour of consultation! After 2 weeks of working with her, my panic attacks were gone. After 5 months of working with her, my anxiety was basically nonexistent. Therapists treated me as too broken and complex and un-treatable, and my life coach helped me see that most of my battle was just working on my thought work.
@@bethevans8 I’m so curious who your coach was! I also have recovered from severe panic with the help of coaches, and I’m looking to go this route careerwise to help others! I would love to see some examples of people who are doing it well if you don’t mind sharing :)
I have a mental illness and I've seen both therapists and life coaches. I pretty much agree with everything Kati said- they're both helpful, for slightly different things. My therapist helps get me through mental health crises, while my life coach helps me implement action items that bring me closer to realizing my goals. Both are great as providers of an outside perspective and as people I know I can rely on for support. In general I always say, the more you have in your support toolkit the better.
Kati, I know you put up a video before about 25 things about you. Which was cool. Because it made it feel like you’re more “real” in a way. I think you should put up one with like 15 favorite things - food, drink, smell, etc. It would be fun to learn about you since you’re becoming much more well known. Plus, you can incorporate people learning their own self if they don’t know!
Kati Morton I think you probably could share most anything you want about yourself within your boundaries, and probably be fine. I think you’re at a point that people would like to know more. You hear all of our stories, likes, dislikes, and such. And so we would like to know love to know more about you!
KATI ! Thank you for your balanced approach! I was worried I wouldn't agree , or that you might not be fair, But you were! Thank you. The world needs more helpers.
I am a certified life coach, and hypnotherapist .I make people sign a contract, and on my contract it states that I am not a medical professional, if a life coach is doing anything other than helping someone identify and accomplish a goal, then they are working outside their scope of work. also if I plan on helping someone with a goal and deciding you use hypnotherapy if they have any pre-existing medical conditions, or mental issues I make them get a release from their Dr, to make sure they are ok with moving forward with my session. I.E weight loss and quitting smoking. But my main function as a life coach is to ask challenging questions, I try my best to figuratively hold a mirror up to the person and ask questions to make them see how they are getting in the way of their goals.
I have been to a life coach and have been to many therapists. It's a VERY different process. Therapists help talk through things, and like Kati said, are a support system with mental illness, and address things from your past that are stopping you from your future etc. The life coach that I experienced was much more forward-oriented. Taskmaster! helps you build a step by step plan towards your goals! My life coach was very "no BS" while still being kind. BOTH therapists and life coaches are VERY helpful in your life journey if you wanted to try it out. They truly don't necessarily overlap with each other, at least not in my experience. But YES - make sure they're certified. Sadly, I think thats the biggest issue that really discredits life coaches too and makes them "silly". I'm all for both!
Woah, I just posted a video on the difference between coaching and counseling/therapy. I could have just used your comment as a script and saved myself a lot of preparation time! Very well stated :D
Sarah Miller, I am a certified personal and executive coach, and I thank you for your accurate description of the difference between life coaching and therapy. Kudos to your life coach and to your therapist. It sounds like both experiences have been beneficial to you, which is exactly the way it should be.
To be frank, you can get a task master for a way cheaper price, they are called EAP counselors (Employee Assistance). Who are trained, licensed, master level mental health clinicians who focuses is solution focus therapy. And guess what their services are covered by your employer so its free for you.
I’m really considering becoming a life coach, and would never think of myself comparable to a therapist. Which is why I find it important for life coaches to make it clear what they can and cannot do for their clients. I came across this video in my research and thought it refreshing and an honest opinion! Thank you!
I was in therapist for 10 years nothing helped like a life coach life coach help my life tremendously because of life coach I am now own my own business
Formal training means formal training. Life experience is LIFE, 1st hand, authentic wholesome, and RELIABLE! A good life coach is far ABOVE you, a textbook trainee. Therapists were a trend, too! You literally did nothing but throw shade on a better profession than what you own. Less expensive and LIFE qualified. How low did you go? Way below the bar.
I’m worried I’m wasting my money with a life coach. Our main goal is scheduling and procrastination and I’ve tried so hard to be coachable, I’ve had good weeks and bad weeks, but I almost feel so stressed that I just can’t do it right now. I feel like life coaches expect you to be perfect and we as humans just are not. I really wish my life coach shared more experiences on her trials and tribulations because it would make her more relatable. Right now it’s just a third wheel in a bunch of family drama.
That's a bit suspicious. She should be aware herself that the work is not going well and that you are not happy with what you are doing. Holding ourselves accountable is crucial for coaches. She should suggest you look for somebody else.
I love your perspective. As a life coach finishing my training that is one of the first things I learned. Don't try to diagnose something I have no experience with. Send them to a professional!
As a certified health and life coach, I admit I agree Katie. When it comes to mental illness life coaches in no way shape or form should take on something they have no experience or knowledge in. However life coaching can be helpful in a sense of “guidance.” Well done.
I do agree with you Kati, very well and professionally said, either therapist, psicologist and life coaches may provide an extra source of help and support to people in need without interference among professionals but working toward the expected goal for the best interest of the person involved.
I’m a life coach and I always coach my clients to speak with their doctors and insurance to obtain a therapist. My job is to help structure my clients life to a consistent routine to get them out of stagnation so they can achieve their goals. I also have the ability to fire my clients when they start to bs my time. I could be using that time slot to help someone to get moving but it’s the new age of individuals with narcissistic traits and they like to waste other peoples time. I’m also a psychology major and have a degree but I don’t want to be a therapist.
Wow I loved this video! I agree with a lot of the comments on here too, being certified doesn’t mean you’re great at what you do. Having a degree doesn’t insure that the person is great at their profession. I’m all with experience over degrees just because that’s been my own truth that I’ve lived and seen. I’ve experienced horrible therapists and horribles life coaches not practicing what they learned from their training. Although I’m not a certified life coach, I’ve successfully trained and coached people for 5 years at a sales company I use to work for due to my success on how I was able to coach myself. I also read, listen to audios, go to seminars and take different courses to help my coaching techniques for my clients. The learning NEVER stops and shouldn’t stop.
I think a lot of life coaches charge way too much money. I have seen some who charge more than my therapist, who is a registered psychotherapist (Canada). It doesn't make sense, since the training and certification is nowhere near the same.
Some Life Coaches do charge more than therapists, but if they are getting the result for the client they are worth what they are charging. I have seen people go to therapists for years and never achieve a result.
@@vsbefree8224 True and we have to stop comparing life coaching with psychologist they are too different things. One shouldn't take less because people see it as less.
I really enjoy your seemingly unbiased opinion. Thank you for explaining that there can be some really good life coaches as well as really bad ones and that its true for any profession. Great video!
You can approach a life coaching is a few different ways you can go to TAFE and do a collective of courses or you can go to University and do community services and counselling, either way they expect you to do at least 6 months in a service industry to gain experience and credits for your license. I did 3 years and have a diploma or community service and counselling, I am still at university but doing placement at nights at the hospital doing counselling.
So I'm at the Institute of Coaching at Harvard and I think there is a big difference between types of coaches. If anyone is interested in research-based coaching this is quite different from what "life coaching" seems to be portrayed in the public. I think your description of the differences was well done.
I love your channel! And thank you for this video. As I've trained to be a life coach I've seen the good, that bad, and the ugly. Your tip to find a coach that actually listens to you is a great reminder.
Kati, thank you for not bringing total negativity to the growing field of life coaches. As a counselor, your response means a lot. I am going back to school to become a LPC here in Texas. I have found life coaching very rewarding. I am trained to help the client distinguish between what we offer as coaches vs. what you offer as a licensed therapist. I am sorry to hear of those stories of coaches that have gotten in the way of a client's therapy. Honestly, it didn't take training for me to know that I am not a mental health therapist as I was a life coach long before I became certified. I encourage the client's that if a barrier is that you need therapy, I support them through therapy not work against it. Our field is needed so even when I become a licensed counselor, I will still be a life coach as well. I am also a trained leadership coach who is trained to coach executives. I know for sure that a company will feel more comfortable offering leadership coaching to an executive before they will suggest they see a therapist LOL. Thanks for this video.
I have a question if you're willing to answer. I feel I have a good life plan. I spend a lot of time thinking about what actions I should take to get to where I want to be. The issue is execution. Ive planned so much and tried many things for a long time to modify my actions or establish a routine that would lead to the improvement of my life. But the routine really just boils down to me wasting a lot of time every day, then being extremely distraught about it at work. Is a life coach more in figuring out what someone should do to get to where they want to be? Or is it more getting them to do what they should to get to where they want to be? Like are they able to help me become more disciplined? I have ADHD and that may be a part of it, but the way I live now makes me feel like such a looser. I'm thinking of getting a life coach because my batting average for self controll is not very good.
I have seen both. One family systems therapist helped a good bit. Another therapist fell asleep while I was talking. My life Coach was amazing! She gave me several tools that helped me look a little closer at various aspects of what was causing difficulty in my life. I loved the process!
Kati offers very sound advice and perspectives. Though over 30 years of private and corporate coaching, training and more, I've helped clients work through challenges that fall into the realm of mental health challenges, when it comes to these needs I always suggest they work with a good therapist. When they are past the traumas, addictions or mental health issues, I'm happy to help them work through daily challenges, find the clarity, self-esteem and confidence they need to overcome life's obstacles and move toward the lives, businesses and goals they desire.
I had a life coach, who was accumulating hours for her certification at the time, before my first long-term therapist. Working with her was great. It is important to like whoever provides cares for you. Through EAP, I have a new life coach. He and I talk for 30min every week. :) overall good experience. Life coaches have helped me move forward and navigate in life. Therapists help me resolve my issues with past. ❤️Katie, it is great to hear how a therapist thinks about life coaching.
My therapist help me lay the foundations for my life , my life coach helps build the house that sits on that foundation. Both are needed but not combined
I like how you were positive about life coaches but stated a very true reason why someone could benefit from both life coaching and a psychologist or another licensed specialist. Good job. Love your positive energy.
I think with life coaching, experience matters a lot, too. I’m in grad school to become a therapist, have had 5 years of teaching and mentoring experience, and have taken life coaching clients before my certification is complete because I feel confident I can help them. The certification is a good way to weed out people who aren’t committed, but also, just like licensed therapists sometimes, not everyone is good at their job. Thank you for this video Kati, and for your reasonable perspective, as always!
@@BrittanySchank Yes, I'm in the US. To be certified, there are many programs you can take, and they do not have standard requirements as far as I know. To practice as a life coach, you do not need to be certified. "Life Coach" could mean many different things. It's kind of like the "all natural" label on food.
Hi Katie. I have seen both a life coach and therapists. I am a teacher who is thinking of pursuing life coaching upon retirement. Guess who suggested it- my therapist! My coach told me from the beginning that she was NOT a trained therapist and when or if she thought I needed a therapist she would let me know. My coach helped me with some awareness of my stumbling blocks. She was very professional, reliable, lovely and licensed. 👍. I think your description of the differences is right on.
Dear Kati Morton, I want to acknowledge you for your wisdom, awareness, and honesty. You radiate great intellectual but also emotional intelligence. Thank you for this video. I work as a Life coach for special parents (who have children with health challenges), and I can relate to every word you say. And if I ever need therapist services, I would definitely come to you.:) You made me trust you in just 4 minutes. That tells me you are very talented.
Thanks for your insights! Love the idea of working with both at the same time! The first misunderstanding is Life Coaches give advice, they are are not suppose to give any advice. They only ask good questions and help the client uncover something. Unfortunately too many life coaches give advice.
Yes, advice giving rarely works imo anyway. I am in the process of getting trained and ICF certified through an amazing and intensive program. Learned very quickly why advice giving is not very empowering or helpful to clients.
Hi there, I agree with almost everything you said. I am a certified Life Coach. However, good life coaches does not give advice. They lead you to yourown answers. 💚
I have a question if you're willing to answer. I feel I have a good life plan. I spend a lot of time thinking about what actions I should take to get to where I want to be. The issue is execution. Ive planned so much and tried many things for a long time to modify my actions or establish a routine that would lead to the improvement of my life. But the routine really just boils down to me wasting a lot of time every day, then being extremely distraught about it at work. Is a life coach more in figuring out what someone should do to get to where they want to be? Or is it more getting them to do what they should to get to where they want to be? Like are they able to help me become more disciplined? I have ADHD and that may be a part of it, but the way I live now makes me feel like such a looser. I'm thinking of getting a life coach because my batting average for self controll is not very good.
I love this video! As a certified life coach, the first thing I tell people is I am not a therapist or a counselor. I am here to help with tools, skills, challenging beliefs, encouraging and holding people accountable. I have “fired” many clients who have tried to use me as a therapist. I will refer them to counselor and such. If they refuse to go and it is their emotional or mental issues that are preventing them from moving forward, I will tell them that I cannot see them until they have been seeing a therapist/counselor for three months. I have had a client stop seeing her therapist because she said I was helping her more. I kept encouraging her to go back to the therapist, that both of us together helping her was very ideal. Turns out she is bi-polar and my putting my foot down helped her get what she needed, which was not me for right now. Most of my clients I don’t see past a year. When working on large Smart goals, they may stay to work on something else, or come back six months later to learn to work in boundaries or self-care or career choices. Thank you so much for your video. There are true Life Coaches who can be of help and are often looked down on. I respect what you do and the years of schooling and experience you have in treating and helping those that I can later help learn skills and tools to take back their lives. Blessings!
I am an ICF certified life coach. I agree 100% that my job is not to diagnose nor treat medical conditions. My job IS to hear the needs of my client and help steer them toward the steps that support those needs, which includes encouraging professional medical help and treatment. Life coaching can be a very valuable tool to use in combination with therapy and professional counseling. The methods can definitely compliment each other providing the most benefit and value to the client. Most important of all, a good therapist and a good life coach both will have the clients best interest come first and know the boundaries of the service they provide and when to refer professional medical help
I have a question if you're willing to answer. I feel I have a good life plan. I spend a lot of time thinking about what actions I should take to get to where I want to be. The issue is execution. Ive planned so much and tried many things for a long time to modify my actions or establish a routine that would lead to the improvement of my life. But the routine really just boils down to me wasting a lot of time every day, then being extremely distraught about it at work. Is a life coach more in figuring out what someone should do to get to where they want to be? Or is it more getting them to do what they should to get to where they want to be? Like are they able to help me become more disciplined? I have ADHD and that may be a part of it, but the way I live now makes me feel like such a looser. I'm thinking of getting a life coach because my batting average for self controll is not very good.
I (Christelle) am a life coach that went through a program and gained a certification. I am currently looking into behavioral science classes as well! It will undoubtedly contribute and strengthen the program I offer and how I assist my clients.
Hi Katy- great video! I think this is an important topic to discuss in the mental health community. I am a life coach and I have many clients that I work with who also have mental health diagnosis. I always encourage my clients to see a therapist when they start talking about meds and other health related topics and questions. I find a lot of life coaches try and take on the world because we want to help heal everyone but it’s important to know our role in a clients life. It’s always a good idea for a life coach to take extra training in psychology or counselling that way if one feels drawn to the mental health field and wants to help further, they can! Im continuing my education in mental health for this very reason but I 100% whole heartedly agree with everything you said in this video. Awesome 👏🏻 all the best. Nikki
Thank you so much for this video. As a multiple-certified, highly-trained and experienced coach, this is the first time I’m hearing a therapist giving an unbiased that doesn’t trash all of us. There are too many untrained people calling themselves coaches. There are also coaches that would want you to believe that they can be a substitute to therapy. No. It’s a different type of training, a different set of tools, but when done right - in can be of great help.
Getting the right coach, the person, the Guru who will push you in the right direction to achieve significant amount of success is a very complex thing. Still searching one ... But I know at some point I will definitely need one. You can't handle the riddle known as 'life' all by yourself! Thanks for your video ... some food for thought!
I have both a life coach and a therapist and I find both to be helpful for different areas in my life. My life coach is great for when I need a little extra push to start a project or organize my life better, or sometimes if I just need to rant about a situation going on. Whereas my therapist is who I go to when I find that I am struggling with eating disorder recovery, anxiety, and depression. I think having both has helped keep myself in check much more frequently since I talk to both once a week. And sometimes they communicate with each other just to make sure everyone is on the same page.
… i feel that people with social media inflated ego are now -without any life experience- propelling themselves as « life coaches » and telling you how to deal with your life. While they haven’t started theirs. I would say a cool buddy rather than a coach! Crazy times we’re living!
Thank you Kati for sharing your perspectives on life coaching. It's good to hear a therapist understand the value that a life coach can provide AND to highlight how the roles of a therapist and life coach can complement one another, not compete against each other. Indeed, coaches are not therapists, and do not diagnose or treat, yet the relationship can be therapeutic in itself.
Hi Kati, This was a very fair review of the life coach. I am in school for mental health counseling myself, I really enjoy the diagnostic and treatment planning areas of mental health and prefer that route. I also would not mind working alongside a life coach for the benefit of my patient. Thank you for this video.
I mostly like the idea of life coaches. Coaches I have met IRL not within the context of a coaching service , just seem nice and energetic. IT also seems like a lower-bar way for a person who wants to help people to get into that faster, as a profession. So I suppose I am pretty pro-life-coach.
As a helping professional I still believe I leant the most from examining my own life then I did from most my mental health training. So for me, I would prefer to work with any mental health professional or life coach that is also continuously working on himself/ herself.💕 I am curious, how many of you have tried working with a therapist or life coach? If so, how beneficial was it for you? 💕😊
I had a horrible experience with a "life coach" and lost $550. Biggest waste of money. Never again. Caused more stress in my life and lost money that would've been better spent on a psychologist. This life coach was a joke. She gossiped about me and repeated things I told her in confidence during my sessions. Very unprofessional and has no business giving people advice. Anyone considering a life coach, save your money and go to a professional therapist or psychologist. Not some self proclaimed life coach. I learned the hard way.
I tried therapists and they weren't very helpful. They didn't listen to me and didn't really understand what I was talking about or going through. It wasn't a good match and I wasn't able to shop around because of the way my insurance works. I found self-study much more rewarding in moving myself forward and growing as a person. There are several life coaches and therapists I follow on UA-cam that have been the most help, along with the books they recommend. I get more useful feedback from a live show with Kris Godinez where she answered a question or two of mine, than I did from 4 months of in-office therapy. So, I guess it's gonna be different for each person, but that's what's worked for me. Lots of listening, lots of reading, lots of researching was my success. :)
Very nice portrait of life coaching. The fact that half the comments primarily serve as advertising shows the mindset some of these "life coaches" have
Very well said and I agree 100%! If a person has accepted who they are, accepted/healed from past trauma and are making healthy choices overall in life but are having troubles getting over mental hurdles then a life coach would help them. If a person is still stuck in the past, has unhealed trauma or has personality traits that are not conducive to what they really want in life then that person should seek therapy and counseling. Life coaches are responsible for identifying when expertise beyond their training is needed and vice versa for therapists. Thanks for the post!
The ICF (international coach foundation) makes it in their ethical guidelines very clear that coaching can not be used as a substitute for counseling or therapy. Coaching is not designed to deal with trauma, that hasn't been processed/ worked but can be useful after or in combination with therapeutic intervention. But this needs to be discussed with the therapist/ counselor. Everything else is unethical and frankly dangerous. I am doing currently training for cert. Life coaching but I am also social worker/ counselor. I shiver, when I think of coaches with no formal training, as this can go very wrong, as they may have no or just accidental knowledge about what they are doing, that is often very much limited to their own personal experience and doesn't consider individual differences. I hope, the title will be legally protected in the future.
I love this video! I am a certified Mindset Coach. I loved how Katie covered this subject matter. She hit on some key points that separated the good from the bad. She showed coaches in a positive light, but also pointed out some very common pitfalls that are prevalent in the industry and need to be known by all those seeking a Life Coach. Standing out most was the enlightenment that Coaches do not diagnose and they are are not therapists! Everyone needs to know that! This fact seems to be misconstrued too often. She's so right. There is good and bad in every profession and I loved her honest, straight forward representation and opinion in this video. Thank you, Katie!
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Thank you for the honest and open-minded opinion. I have a background in social work and I'm seriously considering taking certified life coach training. I was nothing but frustrated with the beurocracy and slow moving processes I experienced in social work, I always felt restricted and held back and hated how the system works. A huge shift is underway in the world and I think life coaches are going to become more and more valuable. I'm excited to see the creative spins coaches will take in their work also! 🙌
I am a life coach and have never stated to anyone that I could diagnose a mental illness. I am well in my lane and don't even look at both the same. If I felt as if a client needed a therapist, I would recommend that especially If I felt as if clients were dealing with deeper issues. Therefore we can coexist.
I have a question if you're willing to answer. I feel I have a good life plan. I spend a lot of time thinking about what actions I should take to get to where I want to be. The issue is execution. Ive planned so much and tried many things for a long time to modify my actions or establish a routine that would lead to the improvement of my life. But the routine really just boils down to me wasting a lot of time every day, then being extremely distraught about it at work. Is a life coach more in figuring out what someone should do to get to where they want to be? Or is it more getting them to do what they should to get to where they want to be? Like are they able to help me become more disciplined? I have ADHD and that may be a part of it, but the way I live now makes me feel like such a looser. I'm thinking of getting a life coach because my batting average for self controll is not very good.
Kati why do I want my therapist to be sad and that she cries when she hears my story? Also, I want that she gets scared and worried about me because of my SH... Why is this and what can I do?
Sarah Hayes it sounds like it could be transference or attachment. Kati has several videos that may be helpful and I’ll put some links below! ❤️ ua-cam.com/video/aHaXLHRwh1U/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/peI9oiMbDhY/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/lx9tlkvmrSw/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/U3WzfyNTjwY/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/ZzvbIfLLrY8/v-deo.html
Yeah it could be that it provides validation or tangible compassion and empathy for your situation. I suppose you could talk to your therapist about it. It might be a really great conversation.
I just watched this video. I agree whole heartedly that some life coaches do not have the ability, training, or education to diagnose clients. However, I am starting a holistic life coaching business, and have my Masters in Clinical Mental Health. I am Nationally Board Certified, which means I have passed a national exam proving my knowledge and ability. I have over 1000 hours of clinical practice, so it is possible for a life coach to be educated, and certified, to diagnose and treat mental illness. I just felt compelled to put this out there because I am sure I can’t be the only life coach that exists with a formal education in this particular area.
I am a Psychiatrist and a certified life coach . I personally feel ( and also as reviewed by my clients) that my work as a life coach has really transformed people and created quantam leaf shifts in their life
I have a question if you're willing to answer. I feel I have a good life plan. I spend a lot of time thinking about what actions I should take to get to where I want to be. The issue is execution. Ive planned so much and tried many things for a long time to modify my actions or establish a routine that would lead to the improvement of my life. But the routine really just boils down to me wasting a lot of time every day, then being extremely distraught about it at work. Is a life coach more in figuring out what someone should do to get to where they want to be? Or is it more getting them to do what they should to get to where they want to be? Like are they able to help me become more disciplined? I have ADHD and that may be a part of it, but the way I live now makes me feel like such a looser. I'm thinking of getting a life coach because my batting average for self controll is not very good.
Coming from a certified life coach who always works with the client s therapists, i have to say I am totally with you! (All the way from Athens Greece! )
Kati, I enjoyed this video and will recommend it on my website. I am a retired M.D., emeritus professor, and psychiatrist. My entire career involved teaching and treating patients at the Univelrsity of South Florida Medical School. After retirement I realized how much I missed helping individuals improve their lives. I did not want to re-up as a psychiatrist because 25 years of wearing a pager, being on call, prescribing medications, malpractice insurance, making hospital rounds, etc. was enough. My passion was teaching and doing psychotherapy and after researching life coaching I determined that it was very similar to the type of therapy I practiced. I got certified in life coaching by the Coach Training Institute. Making the transition to Life Coaching involved learninng a new skill set but it was not difficult. I started my Life Coaching business on a part time basis since I do enjoy retirement. Your assessment of life coaching; the pros and cons are right on the mark. If one has a good coach, they will realize a more comfortable and balanced life. Thanks for your input; it will help those considering utilizing life coachiing
Wow. Really appreciate your point of view. And as you mentioned it’s a red flag if a life coach is trying to treat a mental health issue without proper education. So just for all people reading this. If you think you need e therapy - go get one - and don’t be ashamed about it. And for all thinking about getting a life coach - get one. Just listen to yourself. You already know what you need! :)
I completely agree with you Kati. I am a certified peer recovery coach and it is crucial that everyone on a client's treatment "team" is on the same page with the clients mental health goals. Working at a state hospital, I have clients that only are open and trusting to me and not the rest of their team. It is important to have open communication to everyone involved in a person's wellness. and to all the self-proclaimed "life coaches" please get certified, thats a liability issue. Keep up the good work Kati!
I loved your video. Thank you so much for sharing. I work professionally as a Behavioral Health coach which allows me to work alongside therapists. I have found working as a team has been so beneficial towards working with clients. I am able to implement behavioral health strategies and implement CBT skills and DBT skills that therapists introduce. Coaching is such a rewarding career and helping people find their own path in life is so amazing. I am not certified as a life coach but I do have a degree in behavioral health science and psychology, and several hours of workforce training that has given me the skills I have to help individuals cultivate their own awareness, so they can take their lives in their own hands.
I got a certified life coach but my focus was professional organizing so it was a supplement. I am conscious of mental health and tough subjects referring them to a therapist. I have a therapist. Thanks for sharing. So true
I appreciated you addressing this "new occupation." I know other counselors who despise them thinking they are wanna be counselors who should be prosecuted for practicing without licensing.
Honestly I have seen one life coach ho did nothing but point out my mistake and asked me to meditate in nature. and if i did'nt do she said, i was runing my life. That was an ouch. I turned back to my therapist in good old days. Now I myself am a Therapist and a life coach. and i don't treat people like they are not doing good because they want to be bad. i understand mental illness
Thank you for this awesome, objective and helpful video, Kati! I am going to post this on MY coaching website to help potential clients understand more about coaching and hear a therapist's perspective. I will also be following your UA-cam channel from now on. Thank you thank you!
I totally agree with this! Research actually shows the number one predictor of success in therapy is not the training, credentialing, etc (I'm not saying these aren't important at all), but the number one predictor of success is the relationship between the clinician and client.
Thank you so much Katie. You really put things into perspective for me I would that's for me. I was really considering it and with you giving such great feedback I think I'm going to move forward with getting my certification. Thank you and Happy Holidays!
thank you for your openness. I have been a transformational life and career coach for 4 years and I have been gaining credentials and training along the way so yes I think it's important to check the credentials but what is more important is trust and rapport. You want to pick a coach who you feel completely comfortable with to open up fully same goes when you pick a therapist. One thing I would like to clarify: pure coaching means no advice, our role is to empower people to find their own solutions not tell them what to do...that's mentoring. Also I have read about the payment side of thing...yes we do tend to charge more it's because you will typically need one to 6 sessions, because we are solution focused so the investment is much shorter...not seeing a therapist for a year on a weekly basis...if you do your maths...you will realise that a life coach works out cheaper as an investment. I have worked along side therapists, it's key to be transparent, that the client tells their coach and therapist that they are working with both at the same time. Finally, a coach will sign post you to someone else if they realise that there is more benefits to be seeking help somewhere else...Hope this helps!
Just found your cite and I think your advice is spot on. I have been through life coach training and I do enjoy doing the work, but the last thing I want to do is tackle a mental illness. I have a huge list of mental health providers to share with any client that I think it’s bigger than me. Thank you for your wise sage advice.
Hello, a life coach who was not certified helped me immensely more than I could've dreamed of. A piece of paper means nothing, real life experience is more valuable
Hi! Can you share his/her contact, please?
I am a certified life coach. Thank you for giving your feedback.
Absolutely true.
Paper is not worthless, BUT it just shows someone has jumped through hoops do get that.
It says zero about their abilities.
A person's experience counts for a lot.
I can agree with this, but it takes a heavy amount of trust to absorb their advice. I feel like this therapist is mistaking a life coach with an "influencer", maybe
I'm no expert, but I'd say a life coach is more 'getting your shit together' orientated, and therapists are more 'understand how your childhood affects your behaviour and change your subconscious mind' orientated. Both work for helping and bettering a person, but life coaches seem to work a little more on external parts of a client's life, whereas therapy is more internal. But both should have plenty of cross-over.
And agreed, ability is the key measurement, but certification helps creditability if you have a range to choose from when you've not experienced any of the choices. Although it's not essential, it guarantees a professional standard on at least a basic level. Certified could be anywhere between OK and amazing. Not certified can mean anywhere between awful and amazing. Again, all one person's perspective here...
A couple weeks in with my life coach has helped me handle my mental illness more than 4 years with therapists. I feel like half of therapists are just inept, all they do is sit and listen and don't try to actively help.
I think this is because Life coaches know they are always compared to therapists, and they must have this feeling of inferiority because of this comparison, and people tend to make extra effort when they are the underdogs.
I agree
Some Therapist are passionate about what they do and others string you along for money. I am a Certified Life Coach and before I was certified, My passion & Life Experiences helped me to help ppl equally as much, if not more than a Therapist.
Life Coaches are not allowed to work on Mental Health Illness. It's part of the certification to know the difference.
@@juliemelville2945 improvements to one's mental health can be a side effect of coaching. Matter of fact, that's kinda the point. Acknowledge & respect it, but also know how to navigate *around it*. In that, a person can take the focus off off their "mental speedbump", learn various healthy shifts & move forward in spite of it.
I have a huge respect for therapy... When it's the right fit at least. What I've experienced myself plus heard is that therapists will focus on getting a functional or diagnosis-meds & off-you-pop. There's no added momentum or support to keep going beyond that. OR the therapist treats you as though you are your mental illness/ trauma rather than an actual person.
I just started working with a life coach and she has a huge disclaimer in her documents that say she is not a therapist and does not provide those services. And I really appreciate that. She was actually recommended to me by my therapist and I have given both of them releases so they can speak to each other about what might be helpful for me. I'm working with her so she can help me on my career path, something my therapist can help with me only to a certain extent. I think life coaching is valuable but only if used appropriately :)
What's her name? And her Twitter if she has one
I am in the process of becoming a life coach, I am already thought about the disclaimer that will mention I'm not a therapist and also a questionnaire for the new client asking what they expect from a life coach, just to get a clear idea.
Well, they have to or they can get sued. ;)
Love this!!!
A good life coach will listen, acknowledge and question to allow their client to find their own answers, I don't think taking a course and getting accreditation means someone will be a better coach. I have seen plenty of experienced therapists who were useless.
You are right; it goes both ways. An experienced and degree are very different when it comes to capabilities for either therapist or a life coach.
I am a certified life coach I am glad you have benefited from a life coach.
I invite you to subscribe to my channel to continue blooming on your life journey.
Its all boil down to your ability to connect with someone.
Are you a life coach? That's so true
I talk to a life coach online and she is SO SO INCREDIBLE. Far better than the one counsellor and another psychologist that i tried earlier.
Where is she and who?
There are MANY life coaches that are badasses!
@@origi.não through my college, they have a subscription to a counselling website, which is free for all students. the website itself isn't great, but i looked at profiles and i was gravitated towards her profile. she probably was one the most professional and dedicated experts there
@@Ayesha_11122 is she still around? What’s the info?
@@Jonasdelrey Not in touch with her. Might be on a sabbatical though. You can reach out if you're really interested i guess.
The development of the life-coaching industry has several benefits for both individuals and companies. With the help of life coaching, you can improve your relationships, establish new professional ambitions, and reach your personal objectives.
Personally, I am aware of one's importance. The importance of sound financial guidance cannot be stressed because, while experiencing my fair share of the market's downside, I was able to scale from $18k to 57k using the strategies my coach advised.
@@bradsandler3526 I agree totally because. Hearing from someone who has done it all is always motivating, but occasionally it can be frightening to see your portfolio change from green to red.
@Mary Alchester I say this as someone who has actively and passively engaged. I agree that it's best to consult a professional. I was able to build a $262k portfolio that is earning and learning passively with the aid of Yvonne Annette Lively research. I am already aware of the essence of one.
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Life coaching is amazing,i love that it focuses on solutions and not so much dwelling on the problem. Thanks for the video
I studied psychology and chose to become a life coach instead. It is precisely the diagnosing aspect of therapy that I find problematic. It creates more problems that it is supposed to fix.
Hi Helen, I agree. Psychology is such a broad topic and I have seen the DSM-5 Manual, it's huge. How can a therapist focus on your healing if they're focused on labeling you as being sick and following criteria for the illness, this system needs to be disrupted. From my experience, due to the lengthy wait of approaching things in therapy, I have lost motivation in the past. I'd rather go to someone who has solved the problem and has the same experiences as I do.; they are more relatable.
I am a certified life coach as well and I thank you for commenting on this. I am also getting my Masters in Marriage and Family Therapy so I am getting the best of both worlds, in my opinion. I think that it is critically important for people to know the major difference between life coaches and therapists so that they can find the best person to suit their needs. You are awesome!
I always think of life coaches as people who set goals and encourage and therapists as people who diagnose, look at past behaviors, correlate them to their current situation and assist clients in making the changes they desire. I am a mental health therapist and it seems like that's often the difference between the two professions in my area
I totally agree wit you Brittany. I’m certified Life& Wellness coach and I guide my clients to achieve goals and support them to accomplish better future for themselves, some of my clients have been doing therapy at the same time. I see a lots of improvement working together with a coach and therapist. 🙏
Therapy works on well, making dealing and doing to Change. They can’t diagnose
You nailed it
I’m a certified life, relationship and dating coach (most of my clients are for dating) and I try to never keep a client more than 12 weeks. The max I will is 16. That is a value I hold for myself as a coach and my clients. Probably 60% of my clients are seeing a therapist as well and I hold strong boundaries about suggesting clients tackle something that comes up with their therapist if it’s not a coaching issue.
Thank you so much for sharing how you operate as a coach! So helpful to hear from someone who is working in the field :) xoxo
Me too, never diagnose. I'm a registered coach at COMENSA
I love that you suggest therapy for client. Coaching and therapy can totally go hand in hand. So many therapists feel threatened when there is no reason. Also, there are so many forms of therapies and so many forms of coaching (I'm a certified health and life coach, though I'm not practicing at the moment), there are SO many options!
I find most therapists are relieved their client is coming to see me bc they don’t want to talk about dating during their time together. Or they would rather focus on other things. They also aren’t always up on the current dating trends and challenges either.
Deb Besinger can I have your contact?
Hi. I've completed my psychology and then did life coaching through Australia. I consistently reminded everybody on the calls what the differences are between therapy and coaching. I've also had two clients who were 'stuck' and I asked them to make contact with a therapist. The biggest difference I have noticed is that therapy is about healing and coaching is about future movement. I love working with therapists, especially the kind like Katie.
I agree!
Thanks for this clarity. So I didn't know that what I needed is a therapist. I went to coaching, and she wanted me to move on fast. I wanted to tell her my disappointments, anger, what led to it, how it affected me and I had them all mapped out in front of her, but she just didn't want to bother. She kept on saying, yes I acknowledge there was such things in the past, but what are you gonna do now? You have to focus on how you wanna live next, things like that. Then she promised to look into my printed proof/email of what had caused me to be at this state now, in the next session. On the next session she didn't keep her promise, quickly brush off, treat it as not important, in a rush to get me move on, and that actions caused me another blow and trauma. Her dismissive attitude happened for 3-4 sessions and I decided not to go meet her again. That was my first encounter with a phycolog (life coach as you may put), and will be my last one. I'm traumatised to the extent that I think I won't be able to heal in this life time.
How does something heal without moving forward?
@@rockymntdan1exactly. Therapist just rehash old trauma. But life coaches change your life.
@@xierli8585I’m sorry that you had that experience. I hope you found a great therapist to work with once you realized that that was what you really needed. I pray for healing for you and for progress, as well.
As a life coach, I really appreciate this video! I know I wouldn't have been at a place to receive coaching myself or study to be a coach/ offer coaching services without the inner reflection therapy has offered me. I love how you present the combo of coaching & therapy as a "team" - I find that my clients who do the best have this dual support and am blessed to work with both myself. One thing to mention, many coaches don't necessarily give 'advice' per se, but rather help clients wade through their own stories to uncover their own personal truths. Love your channel, thank you!
Me too. We Rock 🤩
Certified Professional Coach here. I have been certified by PhD Psychologist Sharon Livingston. I can honestly say, my coaching certification program ACTUALLY was my therapy, along with actual therapy for my childhood trauma. I learned so much. It all inspired me to get into the field and I am now working my way as a Clinical Psychology student to becoming Doctor of Psych in a Mental Institution. Coaching is about the present and the future helping HEALTHY individuals. Therapy is about the present and the past and healing. I want to be able to provide both.
Love this
@@dutchTea Thank you so much👏
I am a certified life coach. I have combined my life coaching with other self-help strategies like mindfulness and brought that to my clients through experiential learning with horses and dogs. I have been doing this for a couple of years now and have seen incredible results. Most of my clients work with therapists or social workers as well and they find the combination to be extremely helpful for them. I love your videos!! Thank you for making them!
i had no idea life coaches existed. also my therapist said that i have BPD tendencies, maybe even BPD itself, and she told me to watch your videos on it bc i told her how much you’ve helped me. thank you for all that you do!!!
May I ask what kind of symptoms you have with BPD disorder?
I sincerely hope you found your healing. BPD is a blockage of expression, usually of a fundamental human virtue like betrayal, hate, love, fear, comfort, justice, purity, care. Exposure to the expression of suppressed emotions helps heal
As a certified life coach, I completely agree with everything you said, with one small modification. Coaching, at least the style I believe works best, is much more question-focused than advice-focused. It's all about figuring out what the client wants and how to get there in a way that suits that individual.
I have a question if you're willing to answer.
I feel I have a good life plan. I spend a lot of time thinking about what actions I should take to get to where I want to be. The issue is execution.
Ive planned so much and tried many things for a long time to modify my actions or establish a routine that would lead to the improvement of my life. But the routine really just boils down to me wasting a lot of time every day, then being extremely distraught about it at work.
Is a life coach more in figuring out what someone should do to get to where they want to be? Or is it more getting them to do what they should to get to where they want to be?
Like are they able to help me become more disciplined?
I have ADHD and that may be a part of it, but the way I live now makes me feel like such a looser. I'm thinking of getting a life coach because my batting average for self controll is not very good.
It's my birthday and this is the video I requested! Woo hoo! 😁 Thanks, Katie!
Music Is A Rainbow Happy Birthday!!! ❤️
@@_just_TK Thanks so much! 😊
Happy Birthday🎉☺️
Happy birthday! I loved watching your scammer videos awhile back. Such fun! :)
Music Is A Rainbow happy birthday! 🎉 ✨
I love that your response wasnt jaded or seeing them as a threat!
I had a really sweet life coach for a few years of high school. she definitely helped get me through all the hoops i needed to graduate.
I've been a life coach (mindset coach) for going on 11 years and have helped countless young adults get their life in order successfully (mindset, habits, personal finances, etc.) and I also spent nearly 3 years helping fellow veterans pro bono with their post-military career transition. Certifications mean little and it's VERY rare that anyone asks about them or even cares. People come to you for results. Period.
I got Autism, PTSD, Crohn's Disease and asthma. I got autism specialised coaches. My previous coach was certified and she was awful. She ignored everything my psychologist said, and just because I didn't have a diagnosis for it yet (it was Crohn's) and my doctor didn't believe me, she decided I was just spoiled and forced me to do all kinds of stuff that was bad for my health. So she went both against my mental and physical health needs, just because she didn't believe me, nor my psychologist. Within 8 months she had gotten me 5 times more sick than I was before I met her, and I was in mental health crisis.
Now I have 3 coaches. My sister, a new certified coach, and a non-certified coach who did have a lot of trainings and knowledge.
I have never been happier with my coaches. My sister picks up any urgent needs that I have throughout the day, and guides me through appointments that might be hard for me. My certified coach helps me sort out social stuff that happened, understand that social stuff, helps me make life plans, helps me to fill out forms, etc. She also functions as a jobcoach.
My non-certified coach utilises her training methods to get my thoughts in order so that I don't get overwhelmed, she has a history in helping people with finances and she uses that to help me get a better grip on my finances (I have no depts, but it just takes up too much energy to keep it all in order. This coach makes it easier), and she also helps me with social understanding. Mostly she keeps order in my life which I need a lot. Soon I'll be moving into a new house and we'll be making a lot of lists.
I appreciate all three of my coaches and need all three of them, even though just one is certified. And my old certified coach destroyed me. So being certified or not doesn't really mean a lot to me anymore. What matters more to me is proper knowledge on the subject, respect for my psychologist, working together with my psychologist, respecting me as a full human being capable of making my own choices (I know not all clients can do this. But if it hasn't been proven by a psychologist the client can't do this, you respect their choice-making-rights), supporting neurodiversity, being able to support me in my needs.
That's all that I really care about. Anyone else can buzz off, even if they're certified.
(Same goes for therapists, psychologists and doctors in my opinion by the way. I don't care if you're certified; if you do a bad job and/or don't respect me as a full human being, you're out)
ChibiYotsuba I can’t tell if the was meant as a troll or not.
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Update! Moving into my own house went well. I live here for a bit more than a year now, and I'm really happy. 😊 My finances and administration are now in order, and I got a full grip on them. The coach who helped me with that has left, because her job is done, and instead I got a coach who helps me figure out my identity and where I want to go from here. I still have my other coach who helps me with my daily stuff, and my psychologist. I need my sister's support less and less, as I become more independent. I'm happily moving forward. 😊
ChibiYotsuba so sorry for that experience.
@@ChibiYotsuba Thats so great to hear!!! 👏🏻👏🏻💪🏻 Im a nurse and I'm finishing my bachelor's degree in psychology hopefully in less than 2 years from now. I want to coach and serve like I've always have but I started psychology because I really want to try to understand my clients psychology so I can REALLY help them with everything I got. This week I signed up for a nutrition program so I can also learn how to give them a proper diet and lifestyle. Your story truly inspires me and yeah its a shame cause your right, not everyone is qualified to be a coach. Hopefully that won't happend to me and if it happens I'll try to learn from it and get better. Excuse me, I know my english suck... working on that too lol
As a certified life coach, I absolutely respect and appreciate your perspective! It is ABSOLUTELY important to draw the line and even go so far as to work in tandem with a therapist. In my business I have several different types of therapists that I work with so that my clients are getting every single bit of help that they need.
I think life coaches are more positive for people with developmental disabilities more than mental illness.
Thank you so much for sharing!! xoxo
Some life coach used to be psychologists or have knowledge in it
I would say be careful how that’s implied because mental disability exists on a sliding scale and I think it’s remiss to say that all life coaches can help people at any stage of impaired mental disability, in my experience as a person with both a physical and very slight mental disability.
absolutely.
I m not sure calling them developmental disabilities is very empowering, plus we all have areas of life that we just power along at and others where stuff gets in the way. Are these really developemental disabilities or just life? life coaches are used by the top echelons of society (decision makers) as much as the person in the street.
Agreed! A certified life coach in tandem with therapy is awesome! I haven't seen one personally, but I do take advantage of free livestreams, UA-cam videos, and self help books. I use life coaches to help fine tune my goals. Therapy is necessary to solve the root of my issues, but life coaching is like seasoning. I like learning a variety if coping strategies, to see what works for me.
Thank you so much for sharing the difference between a therapist and a life coach. I am a certified life coach. I worked hard to get the certification. I love working with people in particular with accountability. I find coaching and teaming with medical professionals to help clients achieve their goals very rewarding. I make sure it is very clear I am not a medical professional or therapist, I help in achieving the goals set forth by them.
Absolutely! Life coaching stops when there’s a sign of mental illness. Clients must be guided on to a therapist. Blessings to all!
Finally somebody said something logically thank you 🙏 First things you need to know when you start to certification program if the person have a sign of mental pathology we need to guided on to a therapist.couches works with different disciplines.
Unless the coach can be both lol or counselor I'm not a therapist but want to go into counseling
Not even true. My life coach helped my anxiety ten times more than months of therapy, just in the first hour of consultation! After 2 weeks of working with her, my panic attacks were gone. After 5 months of working with her, my anxiety was basically nonexistent. Therapists treated me as too broken and complex and un-treatable, and my life coach helped me see that most of my battle was just working on my thought work.
@@bethevans8 I’m so curious who your coach was! I also have recovered from severe panic with the help of coaches, and I’m looking to go this route careerwise to help others! I would love to see some examples of people who are doing it well if you don’t mind sharing :)
I have a mental illness and I've seen both therapists and life coaches. I pretty much agree with everything Kati said- they're both helpful, for slightly different things. My therapist helps get me through mental health crises, while my life coach helps me implement action items that bring me closer to realizing my goals. Both are great as providers of an outside perspective and as people I know I can rely on for support. In general I always say, the more you have in your support toolkit the better.
Fantastic input!
Kati, I know you put up a video before about 25 things about you. Which was cool. Because it made it feel like you’re more “real” in a way. I think you should put up one with like 15 favorite things - food, drink, smell, etc. It would be fun to learn about you since you’re becoming much more well known. Plus, you can incorporate people learning their own self if they don’t know!
Great idea! Always happy to share more about me.. I just never know if people care or not, so thanks for letting me know xoxo
Kati Morton definitely a good idea
Kati Morton I think you probably could share most anything you want about yourself within your boundaries, and probably be fine. I think you’re at a point that people would like to know more. You hear all of our stories, likes, dislikes, and such. And so we would like to know love to know more about you!
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KATI ! Thank you for your balanced approach! I was worried I wouldn't agree , or that you might not be fair, But you
were! Thank you. The world needs more helpers.
I am a certified life coach, and hypnotherapist .I make people sign a contract, and on my contract it states that I am not a medical professional, if a life coach is doing anything other than helping someone identify and accomplish a goal, then they are working outside their scope of work. also if I plan on helping someone with a goal and deciding you use hypnotherapy if they have any pre-existing medical conditions, or mental issues I make them get a release from their Dr, to make sure they are ok with moving forward with my session. I.E weight loss and quitting smoking. But my main function as a life coach is to ask challenging questions, I try my best to figuratively hold a mirror up to the person and ask questions to make them see how they are getting in the way of their goals.
I have been to a life coach and have been to many therapists. It's a VERY different process. Therapists help talk through things, and like Kati said, are a support system with mental illness, and address things from your past that are stopping you from your future etc. The life coach that I experienced was much more forward-oriented. Taskmaster! helps you build a step by step plan towards your goals! My life coach was very "no BS" while still being kind. BOTH therapists and life coaches are VERY helpful in your life journey if you wanted to try it out. They truly don't necessarily overlap with each other, at least not in my experience. But YES - make sure they're certified. Sadly, I think thats the biggest issue that really discredits life coaches too and makes them "silly". I'm all for both!
Woah, I just posted a video on the difference between coaching and counseling/therapy. I could have just used your comment as a script and saved myself a lot of preparation time! Very well stated :D
Sarah Miller, I am a certified personal and executive coach, and I thank you for your accurate description of the difference between life coaching and therapy. Kudos to your life coach and to your therapist. It sounds like both experiences have been beneficial to you, which is exactly the way it should be.
You literally summed up the difference in a very lovely manner 💕
To be frank, you can get a task master for a way cheaper price, they are called EAP counselors (Employee Assistance). Who are trained, licensed, master level mental health clinicians who focuses is solution focus therapy. And guess what their services are covered by your employer so its free for you.
Well put! 👏
I’m really considering becoming a life coach, and would never think of myself comparable to a therapist. Which is why I find it important for life coaches to make it clear what they can and cannot do for their clients. I came across this video in my research and thought it refreshing and an honest opinion! Thank you!
Why wouldn’t you be comparable to a therapists?
I was in therapist for 10 years nothing helped like a life coach life coach help my life tremendously because of life coach I am now own my own business
Formal training means formal training.
Life experience is LIFE, 1st hand, authentic wholesome, and RELIABLE!
A good life coach is far ABOVE you, a textbook trainee.
Therapists were a trend, too!
You literally did nothing but throw shade on a better profession than what you own.
Less expensive and LIFE qualified.
How low did you go?
Way below the bar.
I’m worried I’m wasting my money with a life coach. Our main goal is scheduling and procrastination and I’ve tried so hard to be coachable, I’ve had good weeks and bad weeks, but I almost feel so stressed that I just can’t do it right now. I feel like life coaches expect you to be perfect and we as humans just are not. I really wish my life coach shared more experiences on her trials and tribulations because it would make her more relatable. Right now it’s just a third wheel in a bunch of family drama.
That's a bit suspicious. She should be aware herself that the work is not going well and that you are not happy with what you are doing. Holding ourselves accountable is crucial for coaches. She should suggest you look for somebody else.
I love your perspective. As a life coach finishing my training that is one of the first things I learned. Don't try to diagnose something I have no experience with. Send them to a professional!
As a certified health and life coach, I admit I agree Katie. When it comes to mental illness life coaches in no way shape or form should take on something they have no experience or knowledge in. However life coaching can be helpful in a sense of “guidance.” Well done.
It really freaks me out when coaches do that.
I do agree with you Kati, very well and professionally said, either therapist, psicologist and life coaches may provide an extra source of help and support to people in need without interference among professionals but working toward the expected goal for the best interest of the person involved.
I’m a life coach and I always coach my clients to speak with their doctors and insurance to obtain a therapist.
My job is to help structure my clients life to a consistent routine to get them out of stagnation so they can achieve their goals. I also have the ability to fire my clients when they start to bs my time. I could be using that time slot to help someone to get moving but it’s the new age of individuals with narcissistic traits and they like to waste other peoples time. I’m also a psychology major and have a degree but I don’t want to be a therapist.
Wow I loved this video! I agree with a lot of the comments on here too, being certified doesn’t mean you’re great at what you do. Having a degree doesn’t insure that the person is great at their profession. I’m all with experience over degrees just because that’s been my own truth that I’ve lived and seen. I’ve experienced horrible therapists and horribles life coaches not practicing what they learned from their training. Although I’m not a certified life coach, I’ve successfully trained and coached people for 5 years at a sales company I use to work for due to my success on how I was able to coach myself. I also read, listen to audios, go to seminars and take different courses to help my coaching techniques for my clients. The learning NEVER stops and shouldn’t stop.
I think a lot of life coaches charge way too much money. I have seen some who charge more than my therapist, who is a registered psychotherapist (Canada). It doesn't make sense, since the training and certification is nowhere near the same.
It's a scam.
Some Life Coaches do charge more than therapists, but if they are getting the result for the client they are worth what they are charging. I have seen people go to therapists for years and never achieve a result.
@@vsbefree8224 True and we have to stop comparing life coaching with psychologist they are too different things. One shouldn't take less because people see it as less.
If the coach is helping you then and hey deserve the money, if they are not then you wouldn't be seeing them
@@vsbefree8224 exactly me to
I really enjoy your seemingly unbiased opinion. Thank you for explaining that there can be some really good life coaches as well as really bad ones and that its true for any profession. Great video!
You can approach a life coaching is a few different ways you can go to TAFE and do a collective of courses or you can go to University and do community services and counselling, either way they expect you to do at least 6 months in a service industry to gain experience and credits for your license. I did 3 years and have a diploma or community service and counselling, I am still at university but doing placement at nights at the hospital doing counselling.
So I'm at the Institute of Coaching at Harvard and I think there is a big difference between types of coaches. If anyone is interested in research-based coaching this is quite different from what "life coaching" seems to be portrayed in the public. I think your description of the differences was well done.
I love your channel! And thank you for this video. As I've trained to be a life coach I've seen the good, that bad, and the ugly. Your tip to find a coach that actually listens to you is a great reminder.
Kati, thank you for not bringing total negativity to the growing field of life coaches. As a counselor, your response means a lot. I am going back to school to become a LPC here in Texas. I have found life coaching very rewarding. I am trained to help the client distinguish between what we offer as coaches vs. what you offer as a licensed therapist. I am sorry to hear of those stories of coaches that have gotten in the way of a client's therapy. Honestly, it didn't take training for me to know that I am not a mental health therapist as I was a life coach long before I became certified. I encourage the client's that if a barrier is that you need therapy, I support them through therapy not work against it. Our field is needed so even when I become a licensed counselor, I will still be a life coach as well. I am also a trained leadership coach who is trained to coach executives. I know for sure that a company will feel more comfortable offering leadership coaching to an executive before they will suggest they see a therapist LOL. Thanks for this video.
I do enjoy that you didn't demonize life coaches but rather instead, pushing out a message that to be cautious when picking your life coach.
I totally agree! I think she does this so well with just about everything, mental health diagnosis, relationships, and things like this
I'm a certified life coach, and I completely agree with your perspective.
As a trained Life Coach, I so appreciate this. You were completely fair!
I have a question if you're willing to answer.
I feel I have a good life plan. I spend a lot of time thinking about what actions I should take to get to where I want to be. The issue is execution.
Ive planned so much and tried many things for a long time to modify my actions or establish a routine that would lead to the improvement of my life. But the routine really just boils down to me wasting a lot of time every day, then being extremely distraught about it at work.
Is a life coach more in figuring out what someone should do to get to where they want to be? Or is it more getting them to do what they should to get to where they want to be?
Like are they able to help me become more disciplined?
I have ADHD and that may be a part of it, but the way I live now makes me feel like such a looser. I'm thinking of getting a life coach because my batting average for self controll is not very good.
I have seen both. One family systems therapist helped a good bit. Another therapist fell asleep while I was talking. My life Coach was amazing! She gave me several tools that helped me look a little closer at various aspects of what was causing difficulty in my life. I loved the process!
Kati offers very sound advice and perspectives.
Though over 30 years of private and corporate coaching, training and more, I've helped clients work through challenges that fall into the realm of mental health challenges, when it comes to these needs I always suggest they work with a good therapist.
When they are past the traumas, addictions or mental health issues, I'm happy to help them work through daily challenges, find the clarity, self-esteem and confidence they need to overcome life's obstacles and move toward the lives, businesses and goals they desire.
I had a life coach, who was accumulating hours for her certification at the time, before my first long-term therapist. Working with her was great.
It is important to like whoever provides cares for you.
Through EAP, I have a new life coach. He and I talk for 30min every week. :) overall good experience. Life coaches have helped me move forward and navigate in life. Therapists help me resolve my issues with past.
❤️Katie, it is great to hear how a therapist thinks about life coaching.
My therapist help me lay the foundations for my life , my life coach helps build the house that sits on that foundation. Both are needed but not combined
I like how you were positive about life coaches but stated a very true reason why someone could benefit from both life coaching and a psychologist or another licensed specialist. Good job. Love your positive energy.
I think with life coaching, experience matters a lot, too. I’m in grad school to become a therapist, have had 5 years of teaching and mentoring experience, and have taken life coaching clients before my certification is complete because I feel confident I can help them. The certification is a good way to weed out people who aren’t committed, but also, just like licensed therapists sometimes, not everyone is good at their job. Thank you for this video Kati, and for your reasonable perspective, as always!
I'm so curious! Are you in the US? If so, are there requirements in the US to be certified as a life coach?
@@BrittanySchank Yes, I'm in the US. To be certified, there are many programs you can take, and they do not have standard requirements as far as I know. To practice as a life coach, you do not need to be certified. "Life Coach" could mean many different things. It's kind of like the "all natural" label on food.
Creative Indifference thank you so much for clarifying all of this! You rock!
Hi Katie. I have seen both a life coach and therapists. I am a teacher who is thinking of pursuing life coaching upon retirement. Guess who suggested it- my therapist! My coach told me from the beginning that she was NOT a trained therapist and when or if she thought I needed a therapist she would let me know. My coach helped me with some awareness of my stumbling blocks. She was very professional, reliable, lovely and licensed. 👍. I think your description of the differences is right on.
Fantastic! Out of curiosity, are you in the US? and if so, what are the requirements for life coaches in the US?
Dear Kati Morton,
I want to acknowledge you for your wisdom, awareness, and honesty.
You radiate great intellectual but also emotional intelligence. Thank you for this video.
I work as a Life coach for special parents (who have children with health challenges), and I can relate to every word you say.
And if I ever need therapist services, I would definitely come to you.:) You made me trust you in just 4 minutes. That tells me you are very talented.
Thanks for your insights! Love the idea of working with both at the same time! The first misunderstanding is Life Coaches give advice, they are are not suppose to give any advice. They only ask good questions and help the client uncover something. Unfortunately too many life coaches give advice.
Yes, advice giving rarely works imo anyway. I am in the process of getting trained and ICF certified through an amazing and intensive program. Learned very quickly why advice giving is not very empowering or helpful to clients.
Hi there, I agree with almost everything you said. I am a certified Life Coach. However, good life coaches does not give advice. They lead you to yourown answers. 💚
I have a question if you're willing to answer.
I feel I have a good life plan. I spend a lot of time thinking about what actions I should take to get to where I want to be. The issue is execution.
Ive planned so much and tried many things for a long time to modify my actions or establish a routine that would lead to the improvement of my life. But the routine really just boils down to me wasting a lot of time every day, then being extremely distraught about it at work.
Is a life coach more in figuring out what someone should do to get to where they want to be? Or is it more getting them to do what they should to get to where they want to be?
Like are they able to help me become more disciplined?
I have ADHD and that may be a part of it, but the way I live now makes me feel like such a looser. I'm thinking of getting a life coach because my batting average for self controll is not very good.
I love this video! As a certified life coach, the first thing I tell people is I am not a therapist or a counselor. I am here to help with tools, skills, challenging beliefs, encouraging and holding people accountable. I have “fired” many clients who have tried to use me as a therapist. I will refer them to counselor and such. If they refuse to go and it is their emotional or mental issues that are preventing them from moving forward, I will tell them that I cannot see them until they have been seeing a therapist/counselor for three months. I have had a client stop seeing her therapist because she said I was helping her more. I kept encouraging her to go back to the therapist, that both of us together helping her was very ideal. Turns out she is bi-polar and my putting my foot down helped her get what she needed, which was not me for right now. Most of my clients I don’t see past a year. When working on large Smart goals, they may stay to work on something else, or come back six months later to learn to work in boundaries or self-care or career choices. Thank you so much for your video. There are true Life Coaches who can be of help and are often looked down on. I respect what you do and the years of schooling and experience you have in treating and helping those that I can later help learn skills and tools to take back their lives. Blessings!
I am an ICF certified life coach. I agree 100% that my job is not to diagnose nor treat medical conditions. My job IS to hear the needs of my client and help steer them toward the steps that support those needs, which includes encouraging professional medical help and treatment. Life coaching can be a very valuable tool to use in combination with therapy and professional counseling. The methods can definitely compliment each other providing the most benefit and value to the client. Most important of all, a good therapist and a good life coach both will have the clients best interest come first and know the boundaries of the service they provide and when to refer professional medical help
I have a question if you're willing to answer.
I feel I have a good life plan. I spend a lot of time thinking about what actions I should take to get to where I want to be. The issue is execution.
Ive planned so much and tried many things for a long time to modify my actions or establish a routine that would lead to the improvement of my life. But the routine really just boils down to me wasting a lot of time every day, then being extremely distraught about it at work.
Is a life coach more in figuring out what someone should do to get to where they want to be? Or is it more getting them to do what they should to get to where they want to be?
Like are they able to help me become more disciplined?
I have ADHD and that may be a part of it, but the way I live now makes me feel like such a looser. I'm thinking of getting a life coach because my batting average for self controll is not very good.
I think life coaches should have a background in behavioral science.
I (Christelle) am a life coach that went through a program and gained a certification. I am currently looking into behavioral science classes as well! It will undoubtedly contribute and strengthen the program I offer and how I assist my clients.
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Hi Katy- great video! I think this is an important topic to discuss in the mental health community. I am a life coach and I have many clients that I work with who also have mental health diagnosis. I always encourage my clients to see a therapist when they start talking about meds and other health related topics and questions. I find a lot of life coaches try and take on the world because we want to help heal everyone but it’s important to know our role in a clients life. It’s always a good idea for a life coach to take extra training in psychology or counselling that way if one feels drawn to the mental health field and wants to help further, they can! Im continuing my education in mental health for this very reason but I 100% whole heartedly agree with everything you said in this video. Awesome 👏🏻 all the best.
Nikki
Thank you so much for this video. As a multiple-certified, highly-trained and experienced coach, this is the first time I’m hearing a therapist giving an unbiased that doesn’t trash all of us. There are too many untrained people calling themselves coaches. There are also coaches that would want you to believe that they can be a substitute to therapy. No. It’s a different type of training, a different set of tools, but when done right - in can be of great help.
Getting the right coach, the person, the Guru who will push you in the right direction to achieve significant amount of success is a very complex thing. Still searching one ... But I know at some point I will definitely need one. You can't handle the riddle known as 'life' all by yourself! Thanks for your video ... some food for thought!
I have both a life coach and a therapist and I find both to be helpful for different areas in my life. My life coach is great for when I need a little extra push to start a project or organize my life better, or sometimes if I just need to rant about a situation going on. Whereas my therapist is who I go to when I find that I am struggling with eating disorder recovery, anxiety, and depression. I think having both has helped keep myself in check much more frequently since I talk to both once a week. And sometimes they communicate with each other just to make sure everyone is on the same page.
… i feel that people with social media inflated ego are now -without any life experience- propelling themselves as « life coaches » and telling you how to deal with your life. While they haven’t started theirs.
I would say a cool buddy rather than a coach!
Crazy times we’re living!
Thank you Kati for sharing your perspectives on life coaching. It's good to hear a therapist understand the value that a life coach can provide AND to highlight how the roles of a therapist and life coach can complement one another, not compete against each other. Indeed, coaches are not therapists, and do not diagnose or treat, yet the relationship can be therapeutic in itself.
Hi Kati,
This was a very fair review of the life coach. I am in school for mental health counseling myself, I really enjoy the diagnostic and treatment planning areas of mental health and prefer that route. I also would not mind working alongside a life coach for the benefit of my patient. Thank you for this video.
Thank you for the advice is very nice to hear somebody like you talk with respect about other people profession
I mostly like the idea of life coaches. Coaches I have met IRL not within the context of a coaching service , just seem nice and energetic. IT also seems like a lower-bar way for a person who wants to help people to get into that faster, as a profession. So I suppose I am pretty pro-life-coach.
As a helping professional I still believe I leant the most from examining my own life then I did from most my mental health training.
So for me, I would prefer to work with any mental health professional or life coach that is also continuously working on himself/ herself.💕
I am curious, how many of you have tried working with a therapist or life coach?
If so, how beneficial was it for you? 💕😊
Thanks Kati for another great video!
I had a horrible experience with a "life coach" and lost $550. Biggest waste of money. Never again. Caused more stress in my life and lost money that would've been better spent on a psychologist. This life coach was a joke. She gossiped about me and repeated things I told her in confidence during my sessions. Very unprofessional and has no business giving people advice. Anyone considering a life coach, save your money and go to a professional therapist or psychologist. Not some self proclaimed life coach. I learned the hard way.
I tried therapists and they weren't very helpful. They didn't listen to me and didn't really understand what I was talking about or going through. It wasn't a good match and I wasn't able to shop around because of the way my insurance works. I found self-study much more rewarding in moving myself forward and growing as a person. There are several life coaches and therapists I follow on UA-cam that have been the most help, along with the books they recommend. I get more useful feedback from a live show with Kris Godinez where she answered a question or two of mine, than I did from 4 months of in-office therapy. So, I guess it's gonna be different for each person, but that's what's worked for me. Lots of listening, lots of reading, lots of researching was my success. :)
Couldn't agree more. And I've tried working with a therapist
Very nice portrait of life coaching. The fact that half the comments primarily serve as advertising shows the mindset some of these "life coaches" have
Very well said and I agree 100%! If a person has accepted who they are, accepted/healed from past trauma and are making healthy choices overall in life but are having troubles getting over mental hurdles then a life coach would help them. If a person is still stuck in the past, has unhealed trauma or has personality traits that are not conducive to what they really want in life then that person should seek therapy and counseling. Life coaches are responsible for identifying when expertise beyond their training is needed and vice versa for therapists. Thanks for the post!
The ICF (international coach foundation) makes it in their ethical guidelines very clear that coaching can not be used as a substitute for counseling or therapy. Coaching is not designed to deal with trauma, that hasn't been processed/ worked but can be useful after or in combination with therapeutic intervention. But this needs to be discussed with the therapist/ counselor. Everything else is unethical and frankly dangerous. I am doing currently training for cert. Life coaching but I am also social worker/ counselor. I shiver, when I think of coaches with no formal training, as this can go very wrong, as they may have no or just accidental knowledge about what they are doing, that is often very much limited to their own personal experience and doesn't consider individual differences. I hope, the title will be legally protected in the future.
I love this video! I am a certified Mindset Coach. I loved how Katie covered this subject matter. She hit on some key points that separated the good from the bad. She showed coaches in a positive light, but also pointed out some very common pitfalls that are prevalent in the industry and need to be known by all those seeking a Life Coach. Standing out most was the enlightenment that Coaches do not diagnose and they are are not therapists! Everyone needs to know that! This fact seems to be misconstrued too often. She's so right. There is good and bad in every profession and I loved her honest, straight forward representation and opinion in this video. Thank you, Katie!
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Thank you for the honest and open-minded opinion. I have a background in social work and I'm seriously considering taking certified life coach training. I was nothing but frustrated with the beurocracy and slow moving processes I experienced in social work, I always felt restricted and held back and hated how the system works. A huge shift is underway in the world and I think life coaches are going to become more and more valuable. I'm excited to see the creative spins coaches will take in their work also! 🙌
I am a life coach and have never stated to anyone that I could diagnose a mental illness. I am well in my lane and don't even look at both the same. If I felt as if a client needed a therapist, I would recommend that especially If I felt as if clients were dealing with deeper issues. Therefore we can coexist.
I have a question if you're willing to answer.
I feel I have a good life plan. I spend a lot of time thinking about what actions I should take to get to where I want to be. The issue is execution.
Ive planned so much and tried many things for a long time to modify my actions or establish a routine that would lead to the improvement of my life. But the routine really just boils down to me wasting a lot of time every day, then being extremely distraught about it at work.
Is a life coach more in figuring out what someone should do to get to where they want to be? Or is it more getting them to do what they should to get to where they want to be?
Like are they able to help me become more disciplined?
I have ADHD and that may be a part of it, but the way I live now makes me feel like such a looser. I'm thinking of getting a life coach because my batting average for self controll is not very good.
I'd say it's a good trend in and of itself but it might also indicate that some people don't have family or friends to support them
Kati why do I want my therapist to be sad and that she cries when she hears my story? Also, I want that she gets scared and worried about me because of my SH... Why is this and what can I do?
Sarah Hayes it sounds like it could be transference or attachment. Kati has several videos that may be helpful and I’ll put some links below! ❤️
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It's also probably you want someone to validate your experiences and by showing that, they do valid.
Yeah it could be that it provides validation or tangible compassion and empathy for your situation. I suppose you could talk to your therapist about it. It might be a really great conversation.
you might be empathic and find it easier to process your emotions through seeing them in someone else
I just watched this video. I agree whole heartedly that some life coaches do not have the ability, training, or education to diagnose clients. However, I am starting a holistic life coaching business, and have my Masters in Clinical Mental Health.
I am Nationally Board Certified, which means I have passed a national exam proving my knowledge and ability. I have over 1000 hours of clinical practice, so it is possible for a life coach to be educated, and certified, to diagnose and treat mental illness.
I just felt compelled to put this out there because I am sure I can’t be the only life coach that exists with a formal education in this particular area.
I am a Psychiatrist and a certified life coach . I personally feel ( and also as reviewed by my clients) that my work as a life coach has really transformed people and created quantam leaf shifts in their life
I have a question if you're willing to answer.
I feel I have a good life plan. I spend a lot of time thinking about what actions I should take to get to where I want to be. The issue is execution.
Ive planned so much and tried many things for a long time to modify my actions or establish a routine that would lead to the improvement of my life. But the routine really just boils down to me wasting a lot of time every day, then being extremely distraught about it at work.
Is a life coach more in figuring out what someone should do to get to where they want to be? Or is it more getting them to do what they should to get to where they want to be?
Like are they able to help me become more disciplined?
I have ADHD and that may be a part of it, but the way I live now makes me feel like such a looser. I'm thinking of getting a life coach because my batting average for self controll is not very good.
Coming from a certified life coach who always works with the client s therapists, i have to say I am totally with you! (All the way from Athens Greece! )
Kati, I enjoyed this video and will recommend it on my website. I am a retired M.D., emeritus professor, and psychiatrist. My entire career involved teaching and treating patients at the Univelrsity of South Florida Medical School. After retirement I realized how much I missed helping individuals improve their lives. I did not want to re-up as a psychiatrist because 25 years of wearing a pager, being on call, prescribing medications, malpractice insurance, making hospital rounds, etc. was enough. My passion was teaching and doing psychotherapy and after researching life coaching I determined that it was very similar to the type of therapy I practiced. I got certified in life coaching by the Coach Training Institute. Making the transition to Life Coaching involved learninng a new skill set but it was not difficult. I started my Life Coaching business on a part time basis since I do enjoy retirement. Your assessment of life coaching; the pros and cons are right on the mark. If one has a good coach, they will realize a more comfortable and balanced life. Thanks for your input; it will help those considering utilizing life coachiing
Wow. Really appreciate your point of view. And as you mentioned it’s a red flag if a life coach is trying to treat a mental health issue without proper education. So just for all people reading this. If you think you need e therapy - go get one - and don’t be ashamed about it. And for all thinking about getting a life coach - get one. Just listen to yourself. You already know what you need! :)
I completely agree with you Kati. I am a certified peer recovery coach and it is crucial that everyone on a client's treatment "team" is on the same page with the clients mental health goals. Working at a state hospital, I have clients that only are open and trusting to me and not the rest of their team. It is important to have open communication to everyone involved in a person's wellness. and to all the self-proclaimed "life coaches" please get certified, thats a liability issue. Keep up the good work Kati!
I loved your video. Thank you so much for sharing. I work professionally as a Behavioral Health coach which allows me to work alongside therapists. I have found working as a team has been so beneficial towards working with clients. I am able to implement behavioral health strategies and implement CBT skills and DBT skills that therapists introduce. Coaching is such a rewarding career and helping people find their own path in life is so amazing. I am not certified as a life coach but I do have a degree in behavioral health science and psychology, and several hours of workforce training that has given me the skills I have to help individuals cultivate their own awareness, so they can take their lives in their own hands.
I got a certified life coach but my focus was professional organizing so it was a supplement. I am conscious of mental health and tough subjects referring them to a therapist. I have a therapist. Thanks for sharing. So true
I appreciated you addressing this "new occupation." I know other counselors who despise them thinking they are wanna be counselors who should be prosecuted for practicing without licensing.
MICHELLE ROSS imo, they are wanna be psychologists
I agree! The one I went to made actual claims that they can cure mental illness. It's awful! I made a video about it.
Honestly I have seen one life coach ho did nothing but point out my mistake and asked me to meditate in nature. and if i did'nt do she said, i was runing my life. That was an ouch. I turned back to my therapist in good old days. Now I myself am a Therapist and a life coach. and i don't treat people like they are not doing good because they want to be bad. i understand mental illness
Thank you for this awesome, objective and helpful video, Kati! I am going to post this on MY coaching website to help potential clients understand more about coaching and hear a therapist's perspective. I will also be following your UA-cam channel from now on. Thank you thank you!
I have a master's degree in psychology. I'm working as a life coach now. some life coach certification is a scam
People can have a pretty jaundiced view of therapists, too. Perhaps there is a role for both.
The important thing, in any choice,is to find the right person for your need.
I totally agree with this! Research actually shows the number one predictor of success in therapy is not the training, credentialing, etc (I'm not saying these aren't important at all), but the number one predictor of success is the relationship between the clinician and client.
Thank you so much Katie. You really put things into perspective for me I would that's for me. I was really considering it and with you giving such great feedback I think I'm going to move forward with getting my certification. Thank you and Happy Holidays!
I’m a therapist turned life coach so I am able to help folks with mental illness and help them improve their life!
thank you for your openness. I have been a transformational life and career coach for 4 years and I have been gaining credentials and training along the way so yes I think it's important to check the credentials but what is more important is trust and rapport. You want to pick a coach who you feel completely comfortable with to open up fully same goes when you pick a therapist. One thing I would like to clarify: pure coaching means no advice, our role is to empower people to find their own solutions not tell them what to do...that's mentoring. Also I have read about the payment side of thing...yes we do tend to charge more it's because you will typically need one to 6 sessions, because we are solution focused so the investment is much shorter...not seeing a therapist for a year on a weekly basis...if you do your maths...you will realise that a life coach works out cheaper as an investment. I have worked along side therapists, it's key to be transparent, that the client tells their coach and therapist that they are working with both at the same time. Finally, a coach will sign post you to someone else if they realise that there is more benefits to be seeking help somewhere else...Hope this helps!
Just found your cite and I think your advice is spot on. I have been through life coach training and I do enjoy doing the work, but the last thing I want to do is tackle a mental illness. I have a huge list of mental health providers to share with any client that I think it’s bigger than me. Thank you for your wise sage advice.
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