Tower Bridge Road Market (1931)

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  • @Nemie125
    @Nemie125 14 років тому +23

    I know this area well and what strikes me more than anything is how clean it is in these films!! It almost looks like a film set it's so clean! These are amazing glimpses of a lost world.

  • @raycrawley
    @raycrawley 15 років тому +27

    I was born two years after this film was taken and in the same area...I wonder if my parents could have been there? Really great film,and good quality...so much to see that it's a must to watch again and again.

    • @rubiccube8953
      @rubiccube8953 4 роки тому +2

      My father was born there same time opposite the marigold pub Richard White

    • @spidee7711
      @spidee7711 3 роки тому +1

      wow... sir so it is like time machine for you

    • @Terry-te1ij
      @Terry-te1ij 2 роки тому

      Yes, I was in the film and spoke with your patents.

  • @HJM49125
    @HJM49125 12 років тому +6

    at 2.10 the top middle is the Hand & Marigold pub on Bermondsey Street. Fascinating video

  • @oldproji
    @oldproji 11 років тому +20

    Brilliant! My mum was born in Bermondsy in 1929. I could have sworn one chap in this social documentary was my Nan's brother - aka uncle Albert. My mum grew up in Darwin Street and went to Paragon School.

  • @Peter-lm3ic
    @Peter-lm3ic 7 років тому +28

    Happy days with the cockneys! A rare breed indeed nowadays! Rare as hens teeth in fact!

    • @davesaunders3334
      @davesaunders3334 4 роки тому

      "Cockney" is an area of London where criminals come from. Or so my mom told me.

    • @Peter-lm3ic
      @Peter-lm3ic 3 роки тому +3

      @@davesaunders3334 They lived close to the law in poor areas in low paid jobs, street costermongers, selling from barrows e.g. barrow boys, wide boys etc. Before the days of State Benefits they lived by the skin of their teeth. What made them so distinctive was their cockney accent which offended some people. I met a lot when I served in the army and I quite liked them, the were straight forward and called a spade a spade(not in the racial sense). I rather liked them! They were and are wats left, if any, unique! A great shame the cockney areas of London are now much gentrified. If they had been BAME it might have been different for them!

    • @LuluMckenzie24
      @LuluMckenzie24 Рік тому

      I am a true Cockney there's a few left .not many . 😢

  • @EdwardDando
    @EdwardDando 7 років тому +11

    Great piece of historic footage, almost 20 years before I was even thought of !!!

  • @fatbox100
    @fatbox100 14 років тому +13

    Lots & lots of..........Hats
    Wonderful piece of archive footage.

  • @hofnerman1
    @hofnerman1 14 років тому +9

    Great Stuff. I just cant get enough of "the shadows gone before". Love it! Thank you.

  • @astone2893
    @astone2893 4 роки тому +2

    Watched with a big smile on my face thinking of Ronnie and Tommy, twins who could have been in this film as young boys. RIP Ron and Tommy.

  • @dfddwm
    @dfddwm 5 років тому +3

    As with previous comment my old mum lived in Riley Road off the Tower Bridge Road in 1930s and she said how busy the street market was and it stayed open until midnight. A lot of the kids round there used to play there. A completely different London and world. What a marvelous film. Wish she could have seen it!

  • @betsy1947
    @betsy1947 15 років тому +11

    This was fascinating to watch, and the quality was really good. Thanks for posting it!

  • @michaelgibson4705
    @michaelgibson4705 4 роки тому +4

    Many of the stalls in Southwark pk rd market were still being used in the 50s when I grew up around there.I can remember Palmer’s fish stall selling live eels kept in metal trays

  • @701ghoffman
    @701ghoffman 10 років тому +9

    thanks for sharing this. my mother grew up in bermonsey born in 22 this is probably what she saw as a kid. those kids in the left hand corner at the start could have easily been my mom and her siblings.

  • @CARLIN4737
    @CARLIN4737 6 років тому +6

    CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT CAMERA WORK. EXTRAORDINARY.

  • @eggsbenedict01
    @eggsbenedict01 15 років тому +7

    Fascinating. Theatre costume designers everywhere take note.

  • @mandscat
    @mandscat 15 років тому +8

    very interesting, I wondering if any one in that film is still alive today - I bet they would love to see this film

    • @Zhurka75
      @Zhurka75 11 місяців тому

      Most likely, none of the people in the picture are long dead. Even those who were very small babies at the time.

  • @valhollylee8422
    @valhollylee8422 3 роки тому +3

    My family all come from around Bermondsey. My mum lived in Abbey Street off of TBR and my dad's family all lived around the 'Blue' - in fact his granny Payne owned a lot of stalls there. 👍

  • @branchenergy
    @branchenergy 12 років тому +7

    Must show this to my Mum, She was born in 1931 and her Grandparents lived on Tower Bridge as her Grandfather was Bridgemaster John Gass. Wonder if any of the family are in the video including Mum's Aunts / Uncles. Thanks

  • @dameaustel
    @dameaustel 4 роки тому +2

    They are all mesmerised by the camera, it must have been such a novelty to them all. sweet.

  • @bruceburns1672
    @bruceburns1672 5 років тому +6

    Cameras were still a novelty back then by the look of it .

  • @ednaolgapurviance
    @ednaolgapurviance 15 років тому +14

    Wonderful footage. (Also really love seeing the man crossing the street, and suddenly does a little Charlie Chaplin walk for a brief moment.)
    Also thinking the man with the wooden leg, could have been a WWI vet, but maybe not.

  • @rgwholt
    @rgwholt 4 роки тому +3

    This is much earlier than 1931, probably around 1919-20 . The amount of horse drawn vehicles and the Foden steam lorry dates it, also war veteran still on crutches in the first few seconds . By 1931 he would have been fitted with a false leg.

  • @yell50
    @yell50 11 років тому +6

    Camera technology was still very new no wonder people was looking so amazed at the prominence of camera which had all the attention in the street, today in 2013 we have cameras almost every where we go.God knows what life will be like in a 100 years from now.

    • @johnlowdon5809
      @johnlowdon5809 5 років тому +1

      If we don`t stop the march of the P.C left, then it will be bleak!

  • @doktoruzo
    @doktoruzo 4 роки тому +2

    Almost everyone wore a hat! Fascinating piece of social history. As some have already alluded to, it appears a couple of years older, perhaps mid 20's?

  • @KevinJKtheman
    @KevinJKtheman 12 років тому +2

    Thank you, I'll have to check those titles out

  • @williamevans5710
    @williamevans5710 5 років тому +2

    went to bacons pages walk then had a stall on the market for a year fascinating footage think my grandmum is there unbelievable

  • @AdventuresofanoldSeadog
    @AdventuresofanoldSeadog 11 років тому +3

    Hi, I might be wrong but I believe the date of the film is earlier than 1931. The clothes and and old trucks and the amount of horse drawn traffic would surjest that this is not a mere 8 years before the Second World war.. A great bit of footage never-the-less.

  • @rubiccube8953
    @rubiccube8953 4 роки тому +2

    All my family came from there. I lived there in the sixties genuine people.

  • @mircobarilli5468
    @mircobarilli5468 11 років тому +17

    wonderful and sad at the same time......

    • @normannokes9513
      @normannokes9513 5 років тому +3

      The lovely,patient folk. So little really . Not bombarded with that pernicious psychology making so many today feeling inadequate. The young men and boys blissfully unaware of the calamity less than a decade away.

  • @returnofthegmac9203
    @returnofthegmac9203 9 місяців тому

    My Aunt and Uncle used too live on that road.
    They were born in 1920 and moved there in 1945❤
    I often wonder about these films of any of our relatives were in them.

  • @john111257
    @john111257 3 роки тому +2

    I Wish i could contact all these lost folks, like a timewarp

  • @Apricotham
    @Apricotham 12 років тому +8

    back when England was proud and the soul still remained

    • @CARLIN4737
      @CARLIN4737 6 років тому +1

      MAKE YOU RIGHT THERE WELSH LAD

  • @langbridge
    @langbridge 14 років тому +11

    So poignant to think that almost all of the young boys in this would have seen the horrors of the battlefields in WWII.

  • @AmberPanda
    @AmberPanda 4 роки тому +1

    Amazing to think Her Majesty was alive when this was filmed, she was born in 1926.

  • @xylfox
    @xylfox 12 років тому +2

    So much kids and young people that time.And nowadays much less.

  • @HJM49125
    @HJM49125 11 років тому +1

    I walked past it yesterday funnily enough! I work in Southwark but don't live there.

  • @MairyHinge
    @MairyHinge 5 місяців тому

    My parents had the Horseshoe pub for years.

  • @kludd28
    @kludd28 15 років тому +3

    It's interesting how so much footage of this vintage doesn't really show what people are doing, it shows them stopping what they are doing and looking at the camera. It's not that I am complaining or enjoy the footage any less, it's forgivable in this time period that people are interested in the camera, it's a novelty. But still, it seems to do a better job of showing people staring right at you than it does showing what people were doing then.
    Excellent stuff tho', this is why I like BFI.

  • @COLEEN322
    @COLEEN322 9 років тому +8

    how does the man at the end "lower the death rate?"

    • @ronnieg6358
      @ronnieg6358 5 років тому

      Was he selling quack medicines?

  • @alexmckenna1171
    @alexmckenna1171 11 років тому +1

    Looks like the cloche hats were only just taking over, so maybe early to mid 20s. Lots of pre-20s antique hats still around! Some of the old girls look like they were old enough to know Jack the Ripper's dad.

    • @alisonlekarev2183
      @alisonlekarev2183 6 років тому

      That's just old ladies wearing old fashions...Like they always do.

  • @elainebmack
    @elainebmack 11 років тому +10

    Just think. In about 10 years these people. if still alive, would be enduring the Blitz. The little boys would be enlisted soldiers by then. How many would live to tell their stories?

    • @alisonnorcross951
      @alisonnorcross951 5 років тому +2

      My mum and she died 2015at age 96 tomorrow would have been her 101birthday. I am very sad today as I miss her company

    • @GlossaME
      @GlossaME 5 років тому

      Thank Churchill for that.

    • @goinblinddoggone
      @goinblinddoggone 5 років тому +1

      @@alisonnorcross951 bless her, she was long-lived. but, you will always miss your mother no matter when you lose her, so bless you too

    • @valhollylee8422
      @valhollylee8422 3 роки тому

      So were the women. My mum joined the WRAFs in 1940 when women were conscripted.

    • @valhollylee8422
      @valhollylee8422 3 роки тому

      @@GlossaME Churchill never started the war, he wasn't even in the cabinet - the Germans did!

  • @MrRadiorobot
    @MrRadiorobot 5 років тому +1

    I always wonder where people were going as they walk past camera..appointment? Work? Shopping? .what did they do that evening? A night listening to the wireless? Or down the pub for a glass of beer? Oh to have a ruddy time machine.. My late father would have been one year old at this time..to drop by at the family home to say hello to the grandparents I never met.. Wow.. That would be something.

  • @dameaustel
    @dameaustel 9 років тому +1

    Everyone single one of them is staring, its eerie

  • @alexmckenna1171
    @alexmckenna1171 11 років тому +1

    Clean?? My grandmother used to tell me that dresses would always get crap on the bottom hems when you went anywhere in town, cos of all the horse dung. She always had to scrub them when she got home. Ladies used to get their heels caught in the tram lines as well.

  • @wellohmeeeeeee
    @wellohmeeeeeee 14 років тому +1

    Looks to me by the fashions - to be shot around 1924/5

  • @rgwholt
    @rgwholt 15 років тому +1

    I think you are right....i would put it around 1921...25.....steam lorries were popular in the 20s, and there are just to many horse drawn vehicles to be 1931 and not enough cars.

  •  4 роки тому +3

    if these Londoners could come bk for a day & witness the state of London in 2020.. they' d be truly horrified at the third world ghetto that it's become.. ...

  • @valhollylee8422
    @valhollylee8422 10 місяців тому

    My mum lived in Abbey Street then and she'd have been about 12. I wonder if she's there? 💕

  • @sheilaenglish7329
    @sheilaenglish7329 4 роки тому +1

    Everyone staring unabashedly at the camera. Such a strange thing in their midst.
    What would they think to know that they’re being seen by a woman in Canada in 2020 on a device held in her hand?

  • @snowbag
    @snowbag 15 років тому

    What does the last title card mean, "the man who keeps the death rate down?" Is he selling tonic or something?
    These scenes seem more like the teens and 1920s than the Thirties (although 1931 is barely in the decade), similar to the 1924 color Petticoat Lane clip.
    It is surprising how, given similar periods, different the cars and clothing are from London neighborhood to neighborhood (and class to class). Not too many open-spoke wheels in Marble Arch.

  • @alisonwonderland8680
    @alisonwonderland8680 4 роки тому +1

    What is 'Colleen Bawn'?

    • @michaelgibson4705
      @michaelgibson4705 4 роки тому +1

      The Colleen Bawn was a public house at the junction of Southwark pk rd and StJames rd it was rebuilt in the 60s which I believe has been demolished

  • @earth123ism
    @earth123ism 13 років тому +1

    very true back then everyone had a hat

  • @AdamNet
    @AdamNet 13 років тому +4

    All of them staring in the camera... as if they knew they're gonna get uploaded on UA-cams...

  • @juliareadscottishpiperandh4861
    @juliareadscottishpiperandh4861 4 роки тому +1

    the smog was horrendous

  • @alexmckenna1171
    @alexmckenna1171 11 років тому +4

    Yes, those deep cloche hats look like 1925-8 rather than 1931. I know this was a poor area and rather unfashionable, but we could have seen one or two up-to-date fashions, surely. Let's say it was 1928 at the latest...

    • @alisonlekarev2183
      @alisonlekarev2183 6 років тому +1

      The cloche was still fashionable in 1931. Didn't go out of fashion until 1933-1934. If you search for images of 1931, you'll see this is exactly how they dressed then. Cloche hat and hems well below the knee. There's even a picture of the queen mother in a deep cloche hat in 1931 with her mother in law looking decidedly Edwardian at her side. I'm pretty sure they could afford the latest fashions.

  • @anneroy4560
    @anneroy4560 4 роки тому +1

    This was two years after the 1929 crash which affected the U.K. quite badly ...

  • @Canuckmom128
    @Canuckmom128 5 років тому +1

    Geezz...wouldn't you love to know the stories of some of these people. At 0:30 a tall man enters the frame from the left, wearing a cap and using a cane - he obviously has lost a leg in The Great War. Less than 100 years ago, and look at how the world has changed, and how humankind has not only trashed the environment but taken peace for granted. Mankind has a very short memory.

  • @abyios
    @abyios 11 років тому

    The people in this video are looking at us like we're from another planet.

  • @normannokes9513
    @normannokes9513 5 років тому

    Noted a steam driven wagon. Start the journey with a sack of coal and adequate water in the system. An uncle of mine advised to avoid contact with the body ; apparently a fair charge of static electricity produced quite a kick for the unwary. No one thought of suing for injury in those uncomplaining times!.

  • @JeannettieP
    @JeannettieP 15 років тому +1

    Sure is crazy that the world was black and white back then.

  • @grizzlybear0
    @grizzlybear0 8 років тому +4

    Read the cockney sagas of Harry Bowling, all set in Old Bermondsey, they're verry good.This was the world of the rag an bow man,of the stop me and buy one Italian ice cream sellers and the strong community spirit of the old east end.All gone forever.

    • @grizzlybear0
      @grizzlybear0 8 років тому +3

      Sorry meant to say bone and not bow

    • @grizzlybear0
      @grizzlybear0 8 років тому +1

      I realised my mistake When I posted the comment that it should be rag and bone man or in The Girl From Cotton lane by Harry Bowling rag-and-bone-man.Totters were the same sort of people in that they made a living collecting rubbish.The way of life lived by the people in this film is long gone.Gone are the brewery drays and also the carmen driving their heavy horses through the turnings and back streets and also the dockers and also the children playing in the cobbled streets and the music halls and most of the pubs.All gone forever.

    • @bushwhacked7112
      @bushwhacked7112 5 років тому

      supernumery why did the richest country In the world at the time deliberately keep it’s working class dirt poor, could it be that they wanted to press them into service to fight their bankers wars for them.

  • @littlebigbrain
    @littlebigbrain 15 років тому +2

    Some of them will be alive as the oldest British man just died and he was 113 years old and this certainly looks like the early 1920's. Aint the camara brillient mate?

  • @acb1511
    @acb1511 11 років тому

    I think, the phase is formed more or less.

  • @fromtheend4253
    @fromtheend4253 6 років тому +1

    I agree with the other people who said this is NOT from 1931; but is much early.. I'd say its from around 1921-1924; as 2 many cloth caps and extra long dress's: in the 30's dress's were above the knee!!...Plus there not 1930's Car's either.

    • @alisonlekarev2183
      @alisonlekarev2183 6 років тому +1

      No, in the early part of the 30's, hemlines actually dropped a bit. It wasn't until the war came along that they rose again.

  • @radsted
    @radsted 7 років тому +2

    2:00 Is he doing a Chaplin impression?

  • @Domino13334
    @Domino13334 8 років тому +5

    So thats how daily life worked in the non smartphone time, look and learn people

    • @Hannahxx1971
      @Hannahxx1971 6 років тому

      Nobody's saying that there wasn't severe, hellish poverty and disease, families living in terrible housing, if they were lucky..there were still workhouses and I've never heard any good tales from one of them! I think the point being made, isnt, 'Wasn't life great back then', rather, 'Isn't it nice seeing people going about their day to day business without a mobile phone clutched to their ear", "Isn't it lovely to see how people interacted and actually acknowledged each other, rather than ignore or blank their fellow pedestrians". When my grandparents, who were born on and around 1910, into working class families, told me stories of when they were young, they were full of LIFE, people really DID things, actually LIVED. They didn't sit on their backsides complaining, they tried to make things better for themselves and made the best of what they had. Today, for all the technology, improvements in health and in life in general, sadly, people have forgotten how lucky they are and, if they ever knew, how to communicate. How sad that, in a world where we can talk to anyone, anywhere in the world with a simple click, we can't nod our head at a passing stranger and say good morning.... I think that was the point being made....

    • @alisonlekarev2183
      @alisonlekarev2183 6 років тому

      Yawn

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye 5 років тому +1

      Well said Hannah.Especially that final sentence...@ @@Hannahxx1971

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye 5 років тому +1

      Thought I would alert you to something more interesting Alison. Melinda and Melissa have just told Melanie and Matilda that Meg was saying to Mabel how she had 2 pieces of toast today instead of the usual one piece that her friends Megan and Martha usually have. It's all over Twitter and on your state-of-art smartphone right now. Aren't you soooo lucky being updated by a phone ping every 30 seconds.
      Absolutely fascinating..@ @@alisonlekarev2183

  • @darylfan
    @darylfan 11 років тому +1

    This film looks like it was taken in the early to mid 1920's. Even though this appears to be a working class area, there would have been more cars by the 1930's. In addition, by the 1930's, more people would have been less curious about the presence of a camera than the majority of the people in this film are. Also, this film looks similar to other British films I have seen dating from the 1920's.

    • @edwardkerrigan5356
      @edwardkerrigan5356 3 роки тому

      What makes you think there would be more cars around at this time, particularly in a working class area? I was born the year this film was made and I can assure you that cars were few and far between generally until after the war - in fact it was the mid to late fifties before cars began appearing outside houses where ordinary working folk lived. I didn't have a car until 1958 and that was twenty years old when I bought it.

  • @vibraphonics
    @vibraphonics 5 років тому

    The way they all stop and look at the camera is very odd. I suppose they were all used to standing very still for photos. I bet the photographer was thinking, "just act natural!"

  • @johnobrien8398
    @johnobrien8398 5 років тому +1

    All the boats were white then ohhhhhhh

  • @del690
    @del690 12 років тому +1

    Everyone in this movie is dead now. Enjoy life while you can. We only get one innings.

  • @seancarroll2181
    @seancarroll2181 9 місяців тому

    Good Times then not now

  • @tinklvsme
    @tinklvsme 6 років тому

    You lost me, the first minute was people standing around watching the guy with the camera. "Walk people do a handstand just do something!" Hehe

  • @19StationRd
    @19StationRd 11 років тому +2

    I agree with previous comments, I have me doubts that this is 1 9 3 1 . Maybe 1921, the hat styles etc were around just after the Great War. Also footage looks like it hand cranked when filmed.

  • @Yasin_2312
    @Yasin_2312 6 років тому +1

    That looked liked the Victorian era (1800-1899) or Edwardian era (1900-1910

    • @alisonlekarev2183
      @alisonlekarev2183 6 років тому

      No. It looked accurate for the very early 30's.

    • @franceskronenwett3539
      @franceskronenwett3539 3 роки тому

      This was definitely neither the Victorian era (1837 - 1901) nor the Edwardian era (1901 - 1910) During both of these eras ladies wore long dresses or skirts with blouses and elaborate hats. The clothing, particularly the shorter coats and cloche hats became fashionable in the 1920s and lingered on until the early thirties. The only people who perhaps would have hung on to their older Victorian or Edwardian clothes would have been the older generation, but this of course is only an assumption. As well as this the clothes worn by the children were those of the twenties or thirties.

  • @maccagrabme
    @maccagrabme 13 років тому +1

    Not a lot of change from 1900 in terms of affluence.

  • @millwall33
    @millwall33 15 років тому

    Its a shame there aint no sound as they talk Jafaican in this part of London in the 1930.

  • @del690
    @del690 11 років тому

    Good job too because i'm 58.

  • @MilesBellas
    @MilesBellas 7 місяців тому

    Why not create processed versions that have been increased in size by AI ?

  • @ricestew5
    @ricestew5 11 років тому +10

    did you notice ,,not many fat people in them days ,,them days were hard ,,no disable then if you did not work you did not eat ,,,

    • @marcafragili8203
      @marcafragili8203 10 років тому +3

      Food was not messed with so much then as now. It was more pure and not all the chemicals and frankenfood we eat now.

    • @ricestew5
      @ricestew5 10 років тому +1

      yes you are very right ,,our food has been pumped full of water and as you say chemicals ...

    • @zohrebrown
      @zohrebrown 7 років тому +3

      There was a disabled man, did you not spot the amputee with a crutch on the far pavement in the early shots. Probably injured in the first world war.

    • @alisonlekarev2183
      @alisonlekarev2183 6 років тому +1

      There were tons of disabled people! What about all those people who'd had limbs chopped off from working in cotton mills?

  • @acb1511
    @acb1511 11 років тому

    In any case, one can undererstand me.

  • @Asapoo
    @Asapoo 13 років тому

    @MrGezamo couple years later, boom WW2 .

  • @albionjq
    @albionjq 3 роки тому +3

    not a black face or burka anywhere

  • @hamzamohamed9579
    @hamzamohamed9579 11 років тому

    was upp

  • @JohnKelly-b2f
    @JohnKelly-b2f 5 місяців тому

    Sad to say that a lot of the young boys shown in the film would probably die in the 2nd world war 😢

  • @acb1511
    @acb1511 11 років тому

    А чего англики все в кэпках?

    • @alisonlekarev2183
      @alisonlekarev2183 6 років тому

      просто потому, что они хотели.....

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye 5 років тому +1

      Caps were worn by all Men then...

  • @alisonnorcross951
    @alisonnorcross951 5 років тому

    They have just about made extinct markets now where individuals could have their own business. No markets now the shops are all closing. My ma would a been 13 and my nan eary 30s. They did nt live far from here. Just seems so last century. Oh my and it is.

  • @littlebigbrain
    @littlebigbrain 15 років тому

    Yes they were fighting Hitler but most of them survived as many as 9 out of 10 did. Even with the blitz the vast majority of the 10 year olds here would have been 40 to 50 year olds in the 1960's. Given average life expectancy is about 75 years old today you could expect about 15% (Accepting working class origin) to still be alive today. Ruff calculations.

  • @carinnooka5357
    @carinnooka5357 8 років тому +4

    How could anyone want to go back to this era. Looks boring and depressing and dusty.

  • @liverpool4ever552
    @liverpool4ever552 6 років тому

    Very precious material BUT, this looks much older than the 30's !! ....probably 1900-1910 .

  • @elainebmack
    @elainebmack 11 років тому

    I wondered about the cleanliness thing in women's clothing with long skirts and horse poop everywhere. Just think of all that fabric, dirty air from coal dust and home fires, and more. It must have been a mess.

  • @delboytrotter8806
    @delboytrotter8806 6 років тому +3

    Now londinistan........

  • @acb1511
    @acb1511 11 років тому

    The author is definitely a racist, but for London with its 60% lumpenised migrants the thesis begins to be stragely rather a natinal-liberational one then actually racist.
    PS: I am a marxist and am definitely not seen to be sypmathetis to racism.