Why FIFA 23 is the last in the series

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    The FIFA football game will no longer be made by EA Sports. The two organisations have gone their separate ways, EA Sports will continue to make a football game, and FIFA will keep their name.
    But how did this come about? Why split? What happens now? And what is the fallout?
    Written by Lord of the Games, Iain Macintosh, illustrated by Philippe Fenner.
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  • @epektasis242
    @epektasis242 2 роки тому +3816

    I look forward to many new titles such as FIFA Official Catering Manager, Grand Theft FIFA and FIFA titled Goose Game

    • @raisofahri5797
      @raisofahri5797 2 роки тому +236

      Hey don't forget about fifamong us..

    • @hugoafonso2102
      @hugoafonso2102 2 роки тому +134

      They already have a grand theft Fifa IRL.

    • @hnz5404
      @hnz5404 2 роки тому +19

      Can't forget ultimate team but this time, the icons move on their card

    • @beaskrishnas260
      @beaskrishnas260 2 роки тому +4

      @@hugoafonso2102I laughed a lot

    • @manavsandhu584
      @manavsandhu584 2 роки тому +43

      Fifa Farming Simulator 23

  • @_AIAH_
    @_AIAH_ 2 роки тому +752

    Me and the Wife had a similar split, I kept our Surname she took all the Money. I still consider myself the winner!

  • @sasawaoh1636
    @sasawaoh1636 2 роки тому +1566

    "EA SPORTS FC" probably the worst name possible

    • @broederschoolmemesv.2230
      @broederschoolmemesv.2230 2 роки тому +130

      I don't mind it actually, but ea fc would be better

    • @griffindinho5109
      @griffindinho5109 2 роки тому +74

      Ea sports football 2kxx sounds a lot better

    • @Ryder....
      @Ryder.... 2 роки тому +31

      I Agree Name Sounds Bad

    • @bharatavarsha10k
      @bharatavarsha10k 2 роки тому +29

      @@griffindinho5109 Or EA Football 2xxx

    • @CG_Gaming007
      @CG_Gaming007 2 роки тому +21

      I'd like a name change to EA Football 20** or Electronic Arts 20**

  • @engerlandt
    @engerlandt 2 роки тому +1465

    I wouldn't say NBA 2K has been well received in the recent years. 2K is facing similar criticism in their NBA games as EA is. Minimal progression year-on-year, full of microtransactions, and even locking certain game modes behind online only

    • @King_Cova
      @King_Cova 2 роки тому +54

      Least we forget their 2K19 WWE release? Never.

    • @AeonQuasar
      @AeonQuasar 2 роки тому +15

      @@King_Cova yeah their basically gambling simulator game. Who can forget. Should have been their nail in the coffin.

    • @raiwood77
      @raiwood77 2 роки тому +20

      2k atleast works on career mode

    • @zubsiro
      @zubsiro 2 роки тому +33

      @@raiwood77 barely, they just give one season of corny cutscenes then the rest of it is like every other year before. Nobody enjoys career mode they just play it to get a good overall and play online mypark

    • @JoshMarshain
      @JoshMarshain 2 роки тому +5

      I'd say give it to Sony San Diego (team behind MLB: The Show series) if nothing else they care about the quality and the spirit of the sport they're simulating

  • @chingchang4227
    @chingchang4227 2 роки тому +393

    Both organizations are despicable

  • @juanmadrid2300
    @juanmadrid2300 2 роки тому +2082

    Hopefully we can see actual improvements in football games now

    • @excellentbanana2214
      @excellentbanana2214 2 роки тому +78

      lol

    • @richardmak3776
      @richardmak3776 2 роки тому +69

      not happening

    • @piccolo5346
      @piccolo5346 2 роки тому +75

      Y’all will slowly realize how good we had it when EA was exclusively partnered with FIFA.

    • @xAmiin
      @xAmiin 2 роки тому +20

      Fifa is actually the best football simulation game at the moment, nobody is competing with them right now, only people who are rubbish at the game will complain.

    • @joshmailova
      @joshmailova 2 роки тому +138

      @@xAmiin simulation? Have you played fifa 22? It's a Through ball simulator, at best. FIFA was at his best in 17. Today, it's just a lazy developed game focused on FUT and the money.

  • @BrendanP
    @BrendanP 2 роки тому +1965

    Let's see EA put their money where their mouth is. They say FIFA held them back, so I want to see some innovation, some updates. Make all game modes, primarily career mode, feel refreshed and superior. As for FIFA, at the moment I think they will struggle without EA. The studio they side with has big shoes to fill. And some may laugh because those used to be EA's shoes, but EA has some of the biggest tools available. I'm most interested to see two contending football/soccer games going head-to-head now, because the competition will force both to make big improvements to their respective games.

    • @plus12gaming
      @plus12gaming 2 роки тому +205

      FIFA has got to be one of the laziest low-effort games out there. Every year, they recycle the player faces, the pitches, the commentary... the list goes on. They tweak the effectiveness of crosses a little bit, add a handful of new players & charge full price - & that's just the offline modes. I don't even dare to look at what they do with their gambling (um, I mean surprise mechanics) mode.

    • @GuinessOriginal
      @GuinessOriginal 2 роки тому +42

      Fifa will just license pro evo

    • @ldope3904
      @ldope3904 2 роки тому +78

      Ah, so it was FIFA who annually released an array of various sports titles, and ruin their franchises with abysmal microtransactions that lock 90% of the game behind a paywall for the $100 game you paid for.

    • @luminescentcore
      @luminescentcore 2 роки тому +15

      i feel like they'll chase the cash cow right off the cliff

    • @pesk7028
      @pesk7028 2 роки тому +39

      Cmon its EA sports they aint changing

  • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
    @HonestWatchReviewsHWR 2 роки тому +820

    If FIFA are determined to do this then they should partner with Konami and help to make PES great again. It benefits both parties and EA need the kick up the arse, as they have been complacent for years now.

    • @ldope3904
      @ldope3904 2 роки тому +109

      PES, 2K best options. Would be crazy if partnered with Sony studios or Microsoft tho somehow...

    • @yudistiraliem135
      @yudistiraliem135 2 роки тому +5

      EA kept the game system but not the name so they don’t need another game to join with.

    • @javierrodriguez1626
      @javierrodriguez1626 2 роки тому +8

      I like EA Football 20..

    • @davidsabillon5182
      @davidsabillon5182 2 роки тому

      Why would Konami share their revenue though?

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR 2 роки тому +52

      @@davidsabillon5182 So they could get the proper names, kits etc.

  • @danpreston564
    @danpreston564 2 роки тому +356

    When people say the PES series started in 2001 it always weirds me out. You can trace a direct line back to Goal Storm in 96, I think, and definitely back to ISS Pro in 97. (For you young uns out there, the Pro in ISS Pro is the same Pro as in Pro Evo) The name Pro Evolution Soccer may have started in 2001, but it was preceded by ISS Pro, ISS Pro 98, ISS Pro Evolution and ISS Pro Evolution 2.

    • @darochavitor
      @darochavitor 2 роки тому +37

      Isn’t it related to Winning Eleven too?

    • @jaywalker6464
      @jaywalker6464 2 роки тому +5

      It was 95, the 1st time i play ISS at SNES and also FIFA 96or97 at SEGA .

    • @callumpartridge625
      @callumpartridge625 2 роки тому +33

      @@darochavitor same game, different country, like lays and walkers, or opel and vauxhall

    • @MrRanosama
      @MrRanosama 2 роки тому +31

      In Japan, the whole series (Goal Storm, ISS, PES and eFootball) is called Winning Eleven, starting with Goal Storm (in Japan, World Soccer Winning Eleven)

    • @tobzdaman619
      @tobzdaman619 2 роки тому +10

      Real ones know!

  • @alexknight6470
    @alexknight6470 2 роки тому +81

    The only redeeming quality for FIFA over the last 10 years has been its association with the football game. Otherwise, it's just corruption, poor implementation of financial fair play, and money grabbing by diluting competions with too many teams.
    They say that the name of FIFA is enough to sell video games, but I don't think they realise that their association with the football game actually helps their brand, rather than the brand helping the football game sales.
    I think in the next 5 years, we'll see FIFA get a lot more abuse regarding their other activities without the association with the popular football game to protect them.

    • @zadarthule
      @zadarthule 2 роки тому +8

      That is true.
      A bad game would also be bad for reputation.
      At the moment EA takes the blame for the money grabing in FIFA.

  • @Prederick
    @Prederick 2 роки тому +242

    Given FIFA's record at managing.... anything, I'm excited to see how godawful the non-simulation FIFA games will be.

    • @gadget00
      @gadget00 2 роки тому +19

      I wouldn’t be surprised if they come up with some puzzles, RPGs and a yugiOh-like card game LOL

    • @bernardo9745
      @bernardo9745 2 роки тому +3

      @@gadget00 right how would make a futbol game without simulating footbal

    • @Darwinek
      @Darwinek 2 роки тому +2

      @@gadget00 FIFA match three game

    • @gadget00
      @gadget00 2 роки тому +6

      @@bernardo9745 catch this: Monopoly FIFA LOOLOLOLOOL

    • @anonnomnom3282
      @anonnomnom3282 2 роки тому +1

      Call Of Fifa :D

  • @randommage1
    @randommage1 2 роки тому +392

    You guys missed mentioning when this happened before with EA. Except it was with EA and the NBA. 2K Assumed the rights for the nba game and blew EA’s NBA Live out of the water within 3 years. EA knows whats about to happen to them, thats why EA sports fc will be focused on keeping ultimate team customers not creating a better game. i’m surprised that ultimate team’s revenue wasn’t mentioned as well.

    • @darragho6358
      @darragho6358 2 роки тому +39

      Yeah just for 2k to ruin there own game over the next 5 years

    • @darragho6358
      @darragho6358 2 роки тому +23

      Nevermind if we go back to the mid 00s where the 2k NFL game was way better than madden so ea both the exclusive rights to make NFL games and killed the 2k game

    • @Dave002
      @Dave002 2 роки тому +60

      @@darragho6358 ea historically ruins every franchise they get their greedy hands on, outside of simulation sports games aswell

    • @cozyfades1587
      @cozyfades1587 2 роки тому +7

      @@Dave002 RIP Anthem and Mass Effect Andromeda

    • @flyingscotsman32
      @flyingscotsman32 2 роки тому +12

      As rough as NBA 2k often is, their career mode is at a better place (and has been since about 2k11). If FIFA goes to 2k or, the dream, San Diego Studios, I think we will be satisfied.

  • @Ryder....
    @Ryder.... 2 роки тому +167

    This Happened Due To Both Parties Being Greedy

    • @hanszer0729
      @hanszer0729 2 роки тому +27

      It's just Fifa actually, they want more money for their name. EA don't just pay Fifa for the name and logo the clubs too especially big clubs

    • @Delrune
      @Delrune 2 роки тому

      @@hanszer0729 fifa wanted 1 bil right i remeber

    • @bear1245
      @bear1245 2 роки тому +1

      Yes, both organisations are greedy & corrupt. Especially FIFA with they’re envelopes. Countries shouldn’t invest in their product.

    • @juz882010
      @juz882010 2 роки тому +6

      @@bear1245 FIFA not listed on an exchange as far as I know, EA actually is and they are the ones who created all the assets, animations, environments over decades. To do this will take 5 years no matter what studio you get.

    • @bear1245
      @bear1245 2 роки тому +1

      @@juz882010 What does that matter if they’re not on the exchange lol? FIFA have been proven as corrupt.

  • @michaelscott7166
    @michaelscott7166 2 роки тому +48

    Does this mean EA will bring back running away from the referee and the professional foul button seeing as though FIFA insisted on them being removed.

  • @gosbertchagula7917
    @gosbertchagula7917 2 роки тому +274

    OGs remember when Pro Evo dominated FIFA 2000-2010 because it was clearly the better game. Despite not having kits, names, most stadiums etc. Fans will go for the better title, ultimately

    • @georgewcy
      @georgewcy 2 роки тому +5

      Some of those games were so fun.

    • @jprime6590
      @jprime6590 2 роки тому +43

      I don’t recall a single person ever saying pro evo was better than Fifa 😂

    • @michaelarmer256
      @michaelarmer256 2 роки тому +110

      @@jprime6590 pes 4,5,6 was far better than what fifa offered at the time.

    • @bazscott
      @bazscott 2 роки тому +55

      I don’t recall a single person saying fifa was better than pes

    • @brooooooo5827
      @brooooooo5827 2 роки тому +39

      @@jprime6590 don't know about europe or other continents but in Asia, I would say PES was more well known and played up to maybe when consoles were bought more maybe start of PS3. This was because PSP was the main device for gaming in Asia and PES was better in PSP compared to FIFA. Based on experience only when PSP got ruined and consoles like PS3 or xbox became famous, that was the beginning of fifa dominance in Asia.

  • @powerplant.
    @powerplant. 2 роки тому +189

    EA will put more focus on Ultimate Team and online, so hopefully FIFA will put more focus on career mode and offline. Unlikely that the FIFA game will be great or perform well, but I'm still more likely to play it than the EA offering as I'm not interested in FUT or online. I have a feeling that it is people like me who are mainly interested in career mode that will (continue to) be shafted most by this split.

    • @davidsabillon5182
      @davidsabillon5182 2 роки тому +7

      No. Offline modes don't make that much money compared to online modes.

    • @roaarylion5214
      @roaarylion5214 2 роки тому +1

      We prefer ultimate team

    • @roaarylion5214
      @roaarylion5214 2 роки тому +1

      You are strange bro how can u not play ultimate team u must have just woken up

    • @powerplant.
      @powerplant. 2 роки тому +28

      @@davidsabillon5182 I don't think you understood the point.

    • @powerplant.
      @powerplant. 2 роки тому +52

      @@roaarylion5214 It just doesn't appeal to me. Why would I want to pay money to complete a virtual sticker book? I understand it has been the most popular mode for years now but I enjoy building a squad in a more realistic way and climbing up the actual football leagues. Playing online with kids is just not that enjoyable to me as someone who is a football fan first, rather than a football game fan.

  • @zackalden6447
    @zackalden6447 2 роки тому +49

    To add another dimension, "non-simulation" doesn't necessarily mean non-"be the footballer" or non-"be the manager" games. In gaming "simulation" often means "attempting to be realistic, a simulation of what it would *actually* be like", so FIFA may mean that they are working on less "realistic" games, and shifting towards more "arcady" games. Either way I agree with the conclusion, as much as I dislike EA and the FIFA series of games, it is the best "be the footballer" series we have, and unless FIFA partner with an unrealistically experienced and talented developer, this was a mistake fueled by selfishness

    • @noamanbaig394
      @noamanbaig394 2 роки тому +3

      More like mistake fueled by greed. Anyway EA will release a game and it does have licenses and it’ll sell well.
      Just gotta wait and see what FIFA offer

  • @batata04
    @batata04 2 роки тому +58

    Infantino: "non-simulation game"
    Also infantino: we are releasing a simulation game

    • @rajathpai9573
      @rajathpai9573 2 роки тому +15

      probably wants to start FIFA card and mobile app games :P

    • @A_Baguette_
      @A_Baguette_ 2 роки тому +4

      I mean they're probably just gonna release both types

    • @5minutemovies977
      @5minutemovies977 Рік тому

      @@A_Baguette_ What does "non simulation" even mean ?

    • @A_Baguette_
      @A_Baguette_ Рік тому

      Something that isn't like FIFA games or FM or PES. It could just be football themed or just contain certain parts of the game like penalties

    • @5minutemovies977
      @5minutemovies977 Рік тому

      @@A_Baguette_ Even parts of the game would be too close to a simulation. My logical explanation is that Gianni Infantino doesn't have a clue as to what he is talking about.

  • @ChrisGower
    @ChrisGower 2 роки тому +29

    I've been playing FIFA since FIFA 1995 and all this FUT nonsense really turned me off. It's been possible to avoid it to a degree, but it does feel more and more like a scam every year I play it, to the point where I typically bought a FIFA every three years, rather than each iteration (as I used to from 95-03). The idea of a true challenger to EA's game would be exciting; ProEvo went from a genuine competitor to an also-ran. Crazy to think that in the 90s and 00s it was normal to see 5-10 competing football games released each year. I don't expect a return to that, but would love to see a new FIFA that brings some new ideas to the table, and a dev team that, at least for the first few years, really gives a damn about improving it year-on-year.

    • @dxfifa
      @dxfifa 2 роки тому +1

      PES was better than FIFA on the Xbox One/ PS4 generation

    • @Lanka_99
      @Lanka_99 2 роки тому

      My first FIFA was FIFA Soccer on the SNES but I really started to play since 06. Tbh I liked Ultimate Team in the first few years, it wasn't all a fairy tale and they used fun realistic cards and I could live with team of the seasons. FIFA 14 World Cup mode for example, was so much fun. Players were realisticely upgraded based on their form. After that they started the integrate more and more cards to attract the new generation. It will never be the same because the older generation moved on and the younger generation still loves FUT fairy tale.

  • @s-b6218
    @s-b6218 2 роки тому +18

    This is great for football games. EA ruined the brand with Ultimate teams by getting young kids hooked to gambling mechanics. This caused a lack of innovation, hopefully we get a reset like the switch from PES.

  • @ejaaz7260
    @ejaaz7260 2 роки тому +10

    As long as I don't have to play with "Mason Mountbatten" playing for "Blue Football Club London" I'm okay.

  • @CaptainSw4g
    @CaptainSw4g 2 роки тому +74

    Honestly, this might be good. EA and FIFA might have to do something mildly innovative for once.

    • @StarAmbience42
      @StarAmbience42 2 роки тому

      Exactly..

    • @lazydog5065
      @lazydog5065 2 роки тому +2

      Only innovation EA is gonna do is with the name.

    • @Leeds71
      @Leeds71 2 роки тому

      @@lazydog5065 If its like the NFL games they'll probably forget to change the assets they are so lazy. Search for it on UA-cam.

    • @5minutemovies977
      @5minutemovies977 Рік тому

      I think "mildly" may be well over what they will actually end up doing.

  • @iKwondo
    @iKwondo 2 роки тому +17

    Stopped playing FIFA along time ago when I realised the minimal changes EA were making to the game every year. For instance changing the way the net bulges when scoring a goal, player hairstyles, and transfers could have all been updated through a patch on the current game. Also the relentless money making model buying packs for a game you already paid for in the first place lol.

    • @afxtwinreverb
      @afxtwinreverb 2 роки тому +2

      gave up around fifa 13-14 for this reason, I couldn't understand how people bought the game each year

    • @Timbone07
      @Timbone07 Рік тому

      They made the defending much harder.
      Fifa 12 was the last I really played.
      Tried Fifa 16 and it was torture

  • @rorrt
    @rorrt 2 роки тому +5

    I might dust off my old PS2 and play some PES6.
    OP Kaka and Adriano's left foot.. Terrific game.
    I still remember a two leg fixture between me and my bro. My brother as France, me as Czech Rep.
    Game ended about 6-7, when I sent into the second leg down by 4-1. Greatest comeback since Jesus, but kept letting goals in.
    Then, last 10 minutes, gave a pen away and got a red. LUCKILY I saved the pen and the guy I tacked stayed down, when he came back on his condition was orange, so had to get subbed.
    I still remember the ping up to Baros, cool cushioned volley. Caressed the ball like a porcelain buttock. I was going full Simeone with my celebrations.

    • @Joel-cw1ey
      @Joel-cw1ey Рік тому +1

      Those matches mattered more than the real life CL back then

    • @5minutemovies977
      @5minutemovies977 Рік тому +1

      Except for demos, I have never played a more recent football game than PES 2018. But I play a bunch of PES on emulator (I want to keep these DVDs safe). These games had a more direct gameplay allowing for more simple and immediate fun, imo.

  • @marcforte6949
    @marcforte6949 2 роки тому +31

    We don’t play FIFA for just the name, it’s what is inside the game, let’s wait for who will offer that.

    • @TheBake1986
      @TheBake1986 2 роки тому +8

      Gotta be honest licensing is an important part for me. If more teams start to have fake names it’ll break the immersion

    • @hijisfriend9030
      @hijisfriend9030 2 роки тому +1

      that's the last thing you will say about FIFA lol

    • @marcforte6949
      @marcforte6949 2 роки тому +1

      @@TheBake1986 that’s true but FIFA doesn’t own the exclusive rights to the names of all teams, don’t you see with Juventus and Camp Nou.

    • @TheBake1986
      @TheBake1986 2 роки тому

      @@marcforte6949 Yeah exactly, and I’m worried it going to go further in the future. At least with games like Football Manager you can mod the names.

    • @Sui_Generis0
      @Sui_Generis0 2 роки тому +1

      What's inside the game has been dogshit for so many years now though?

  • @mutazibrahim6391
    @mutazibrahim6391 2 роки тому +11

    Petition for tifo to start making the “sensible transfer” series as the transfer window is starting soon

  • @lfc-europe
    @lfc-europe 2 роки тому +91

    100% they agree a deal before the next release. FIFA are completely out of pocket and expected EA to roll over. Having said that watching these two footballing villains mess up is music to my ears.

  • @Demetriiuz
    @Demetriiuz 2 роки тому +108

    The biggest probem with the FIFA license is and always has been exclusivity. This creates the monopoly we've seen to this day and for which all but the shareholder suffers

    • @Demetriiuz
      @Demetriiuz 2 роки тому +11

      @@hai2 I should be more clear, it's the licences to use real teams, players, kits, stadiums and pkayer likeness. Many of these deals are exclusive so no one else can use them.

    • @greatemeji6353
      @greatemeji6353 2 роки тому +12

      @@Demetriiuz No. it’s just the name and fifa World Cup. These licenses are agreed privately with the individuals, football clubs and leagues

    • @GRNorman514
      @GRNorman514 2 роки тому +5

      @@Demetriiuz Yeah you have no clue. FIFA has no control over club team licenses.

    • @RealKingOfEngland
      @RealKingOfEngland 2 роки тому

      @@Demetriiuz that's not how it works. These are separate deals

    • @siddhantgarg6899
      @siddhantgarg6899 Рік тому

      @@Demetriiuz nope ur completely wrong

  • @JJ-jy9mr
    @JJ-jy9mr 2 роки тому +42

    If FIFA are smart they’ll partner up with either Konami - to make PÉS great again - or 2K. Either one would be really good especially if 2k can create a similar career mode to the one in NBA 2k games. As for Konami it would be good as they can get all the license of the teams, leagues, etc. Hopefully then they’ll fix their player faces and graphics.

    • @alvin8609
      @alvin8609 2 роки тому +6

      If anything they should team up with Sony. MLB the Show is arguably the best sports video game for almost 5 years straight. 2K is a hit or miss and is also as bad from a microtransaction standpoint.

    • @danielmccarthy3366
      @danielmccarthy3366 2 роки тому +3

      @@alvin8609 i dont understand this microtransaction stuff. The choice is there to buy your skill points in my career but it only gets you so far. You still need to play to unlock more potential skill points.
      At least they give a story and cutscenes for mycareer compared to fifas lazy career modes

    • @GRNorman514
      @GRNorman514 2 роки тому +2

      EA own those licenses. Konami isn't getting anywhere near them.

    • @mikelward
      @mikelward 2 роки тому +2

      Why not Codemasters?

    • @GRNorman514
      @GRNorman514 2 роки тому

      @@mikelward because they’re owned by EA 😂

  • @bobsmudger3979
    @bobsmudger3979 Рік тому +1

    A much anticipated upload, great job 😁👍

  • @CallmeAbdi
    @CallmeAbdi 2 роки тому +2

    Glad to hear Iain Macintosh doing the voiceover right after i listened to the FM Podcast. ♥

  • @silvesta5027
    @silvesta5027 2 роки тому +11

    Just make career mode actually good again Fifa, EA, whatever. That’s all I care about and it seems it’s last thing on these developers minds 😔

  • @__dane__
    @__dane__ 2 роки тому +21

    I don’t think FIFA realizes the sheer amount of RESEARCH that is done yearly JUST on animation tech by companies like EA and Ubisoft. And that’s just one aspect of development, yes an extremely important one, especially for a sports game, but imagine trying to find a studio that has the development infrastructure to take on a entirely new franchise let alone find the right talent for all areas of game development.
    Edit: the only real comparable option I see would be Take-Two Interactive (2K studio)

    • @KlokStudios
      @KlokStudios Рік тому +1

      They just want to license the name out to different game dev companies who will/are already doing all that, its not like they are launching their own game dev team.

    • @__dane__
      @__dane__ Рік тому

      @@KlokStudios I guess my point is that EA has developed talent that has worked on this type of stuff for a long time with a lot of funding, so the number of development teams on that same level is pretty limited

  • @PeterEhik
    @PeterEhik 2 роки тому +8

    Smart thing to do would be partner with Konami, they have a superior gameplay experience and it’s been that way imo for so many years but they don’t have the rights and the money to compete with EA from a marketing pov so partner with FIFA and maybe name recognition helps sell their next game. Konami wouldn’t obviously abandon the efootball idea cause that was a misstep.

  • @menno7349
    @menno7349 2 роки тому +12

    I'm all for a dose of competition. But Fifa contacting publishers and investors for a new game in 2024 sounds VERY optimistic and maybe even very naïve. For any game to realistically challenge the game EA has build (and rereleases yearly) would probably take longer to build.

  • @MicDubTV
    @MicDubTV 2 роки тому +13

    It's honestly a battle of corrupt companies.
    Not to mention, FIFA (the game series) has become utter dogshit when it comes to gameplay. If it weren't for licenses & modes, the game would be dead.
    I doubt that FIFA can make a title that will be better than EA Sports, as bad as it's become. Unless they line up with 2K or another company. I'd like to be wrong.

    • @mathkrGames
      @mathkrGames Рік тому +1

      there is no company on this planet other than maybe konami that could even make a FIFA 24 happen in time. you can't build a game of that scale with so little time and succeed. I bet some FIFA executives were like "we'll just make our own game, how hard could it be...".

  • @ayoutubechannel7143
    @ayoutubechannel7143 2 роки тому +19

    i gave up on FIFA around FIFA 18 as every new release only catered to people who play ultimate team so I'm looking forward to whatever this brings

    • @rico_1_1_six
      @rico_1_1_six 2 роки тому +3

      The last FIFA game I bought was fifa19 to complete the Hunter Trilogy after that I gave up on FIFA

  • @benclarkey1412
    @benclarkey1412 2 роки тому +2

    Really enjoy these more businessy focused Tifo videos

  • @eduardosolorzano5020
    @eduardosolorzano5020 2 роки тому

    Congrats to the designer/illustrator of those "game covers" on the video, the art style is amazing

  • @alpacino5466
    @alpacino5466 2 роки тому +6

    Maybe FIFA’s new game can make Career Mode to improve way beyond what it is now.

  • @josebatres8827
    @josebatres8827 2 роки тому +4

    Oh this is HUGE! Thank you Tifo

  • @sevm137
    @sevm137 2 роки тому +1

    loving the loftus road background

  • @Deku20235
    @Deku20235 2 роки тому +46

    What FIFA doesn't understand is that making a game from the ground up takes years and years....certainly with football and all the interactions being done in a matter of seconds.
    EA has so many gameplay options as well Career, pro clubs, Online, Co-op seasons and what not more. FIFA has to offer the same + better to pull away customers. It would at least take 5/6 years before they have a product that comes close to what EA already has.

    • @drugoviic
      @drugoviic 2 роки тому +3

      yeah probably i will be playing ea sports fc for next couple of years cause were already used to its mechanics ,and ultimate team

    • @xanderblackstar8236
      @xanderblackstar8236 2 роки тому +2

      Well said. I for one welcome the competition. EA does a major overhaul with each console generation and then it is just roster updates - Or so it seems.
      I however doubt FIFA will be willing to invest the 5 - 6 years it will take to develop a proper game. I'd wager we will only see a maximum of two releases before they pull the plug. But who knows.

    • @wayneshamba6961
      @wayneshamba6961 2 роки тому

      Good gameplay might just be their niche because let's face it, EA sucks at applying the simplest of football fundamentals. The game from EA is more of an arcade approach than it is real football. If FIFA can somehow focus on providing a unique but realistic football experience plus online options I'm positive EA will dropped in the mud.

    • @StarAmbience42
      @StarAmbience42 2 роки тому +1

      Well these days I find mobile football games more realistic than EA's, so I don't think FIFA has that high a standard to match. In my opinion.

    • @drugoviic
      @drugoviic 2 роки тому

      @@StarAmbience42 i reckon you dont play ultimate team

  • @highergingerbeing5134
    @highergingerbeing5134 2 роки тому +4

    Champ manager 05 was just weird. I had my RB duplicate once, a CDM/CM twice, and three players randomly despawn entirely mid season
    I still took Blackpool to the Prem

    • @ManWalksDogs
      @ManWalksDogs 2 роки тому +3

      I've been with Champ Man since I think "Championship Manager '93/'94 Season Data Up-Date Disk" (or "v1.3" which I seem to remember was what my cracked copy was called) on the Amiga 1200, though I'm sure I remember playing in the 92/93 season, so maybe my mate had the original (which wouldn't surprise me) and I didn't get a copy off him until he had the "End of 1994 Season Data Up-Date Disk". We'd play loads round his or mine and I'd do entire seasons (sometimes two) through the night rather than homework and sleep, though I think that annoyed my big sister with all the clicking in the dark then the grinding of the A1200 as the data was processed for the following season and I got to find out which star players had left for Italy. That was the only version I ever had any success at, with multiple league titles for Norwich.
      Champ Man 2 was played round another mate's with a good half a dozen of us, though that slowed things down but we got to know each others tactics & teams and play their matches for them if they were busy - certainly preferable to putting them on holiday and watching the AI coach go bananas with the team selection & formation. By then though most saves I'd soon be sacked and would spend my turn applying for all the available jobs, which felt somewhat of a mirroring of my post-college drop-out brief spell on the Dole.
      Roll on CM3 and by CM01/02 I had my own flat & PC and this remains my favourite version (and I'm not alone there). My disc is still on the shelf and I did return to it a few years back, but sadly it'd still bug out once you'd got yourself invested in a save. That was the pinnacle of a fine balance between available depth of detail and enjoyable gameplay, without getting bogged down or overwhelmed.
      I don't think I ever made it to CM4 (03/04 being the last SI CM). Years later I've moved in with my partner and she's got into CM via my 01/02 disc. She then gets me CM 2006 (CM5 being the first in-house Eidos) and I had to politely explain the importance of the SI/Eidos split and then wean her off it with FM 2007. I never touched it. She claimed to prefer the CM version so I tried her again a few years later with FM 2010. I had a good few years away from it all but she dragged me back in with FM 2017. I struggled and that's when I returned to CM01/02.
      I'm sat here at half four in the morning staring at four large paragraphs detailing my CM/FM history and wondering why I bothered to type it all out in a reply to you specifically. I guess I felt you'd relate to the obsessive nature the game fosters...

    • @pazuzuuuuuu
      @pazuzuuuuuu Рік тому

      @@ManWalksDogs did you have the cracked copy with mark Collis at Cambridge?

    • @ManWalksDogs
      @ManWalksDogs Рік тому

      @@pazuzuuuuuu I was never that good at remembering the names of the hidden gems in the lower leagues from game to game, so I don't know, sorry.

  • @eth4n12
    @eth4n12 2 роки тому +5

    Noooooo. So gonna miss this 😢

  • @superricky13
    @superricky13 2 роки тому +1

    Finally some competition to push development. I wish the same would happen with Madden. I'm sure there are other competitors such as the 2k franchise that can give EA a challenge. It will be interesting to see who FIFA partners with.

  • @Sasquatch10
    @Sasquatch10 2 роки тому +1

    If we can get one thing out of this i hope it's a killer Career Mode only game with as much depth as possible. I'm not holding my breath but that's the dream, something as close to FM but playable matches.

  • @vinodnaidu1993
    @vinodnaidu1993 2 роки тому +26

    I just want a game where I’m not playing using ‘Piemonte Calcio’ and other aliases.. 🥲🥲
    OG names, OG stadiums, OG League, but I guess it’s just gonna get convoluted and worse from here.

    • @otto_jk
      @otto_jk 2 роки тому +18

      London Cannons FC, London Blues, North London Spur FC, Hams City, Easthammer Park, London Eagles. Queenhampton Park. New London club non brand names.

    • @vinodnaidu1993
      @vinodnaidu1993 2 роки тому +3

      @@otto_jk Lmao 🤣🤣🤣

  • @jplb96
    @jplb96 2 роки тому +13

    Ideally, several big companies would have permission to as many leagues, clubs and players as possible and it would be gameplay competing only. FIFA and PES would've been much better if they both had the same licenses. Years ago there were several games.

  • @benwalker8447
    @benwalker8447 2 роки тому +17

    Only spin-off games I would be interested in is either a full on long version of the journey or one where you can play as a ref

    • @Random_Eebs
      @Random_Eebs 2 роки тому +10

      Playing as the ref would be garbage lol

    • @benwalker8447
      @benwalker8447 2 роки тому

      @@Random_Eebs good for you

    • @ManWalksDogs
      @ManWalksDogs 2 роки тому +2

      FIFA 4th Official 2026: the Road to North America (via the refereeing reserve list)

    • @5minutemovies977
      @5minutemovies977 Рік тому +1

      @@ManWalksDogs 😂awesome, I'll smash my way there by showing every player a red card. Football may be a game, but I'm not playing.

  • @SamButler22
    @SamButler22 2 роки тому

    Pro Evo was a continuation of the ISS (International Superstar Soccer) series and that had been going since 94, only one year less than FIFA.

  • @mazlxm
    @mazlxm 2 роки тому +5

    I just hope for a better career mode...

  • @adr2567
    @adr2567 2 роки тому +3

    I hope the split means more games with more options.

  • @stejabrayaga
    @stejabrayaga 2 роки тому +22

    Imagine Fifa coming together with PES.

    • @ronanfitzpatrick1261
      @ronanfitzpatrick1261 2 роки тому +5

      They get the Fifa brand they'll dominate

    • @hnz5404
      @hnz5404 2 роки тому +1

      @@ronanfitzpatrick1261 unfortunately, that is unlikely to happen

    • @drugoviic
      @drugoviic 2 роки тому

      that would be the end of fifa

    • @GRNorman514
      @GRNorman514 2 роки тому

      @@drugoviic LOL you really don't understand how this works, do you?

    • @GRNorman514
      @GRNorman514 2 роки тому

      @@ronanfitzpatrick1261 LOL you really don't understand how this works, do you?

  • @HarryOsborneAS31
    @HarryOsborneAS31 2 роки тому +1

    While FM-CM example is an interesting one, there is also other examples where IP's switched developers and were still successful with a new engine. The UFC games switching from THQ to EA being a big one. Let's not forget that there are other developers creating football games, who is to say FIFA wont just buy the UFL team?

  • @breuntphiri4654
    @breuntphiri4654 2 роки тому +1

    this video isn’t as non biased as all the tifo videos normally are

  • @brennocoutinho6855
    @brennocoutinho6855 2 роки тому +3

    i did that to my controller today playing rivals

  • @zaverino
    @zaverino 2 роки тому +14

    Love how Iain manages to throw in some Football Manager in this video about FIFA/EA FC.
    Vision: 20
    Creativity: 20

    • @ManWalksDogs
      @ManWalksDogs 2 роки тому +1

      That was the bit I enjoyed most too and had been preparing to mention it in the comments had they not done so themselves. I've just chewed the ear off the only other commenter to mention CM(/FM) that I spotted browsing through the FIFA/EA comments, so you're lucky you got the brief reply!

    • @zaverino
      @zaverino Рік тому +1

      @@ManWalksDogs found your reply. It was a nice read!

    • @ManWalksDogs
      @ManWalksDogs Рік тому

      @@zaverino haha cheers, good 'ol nostalgia, eh?!

    • @zaverino
      @zaverino Рік тому

      @@ManWalksDogs Yes indeed. I never played CM but can definitely relate. Right now..still playing FM 21 (season 2041 I believe). I can recommend that game!

    • @ManWalksDogs
      @ManWalksDogs Рік тому +1

      @@zaverino ha, I can remember the 2020s sounding futuristic in the early 90s when you got that far into a save!

  • @brierestjean1977
    @brierestjean1977 Рік тому

    Thanks, great 👍 job

  • @jimbojimbo6873
    @jimbojimbo6873 2 роки тому

    Hopefully it can give improvements
    Ive dominated fifa for too long now online has become too easy

  • @mohamedmaiza3866
    @mohamedmaiza3866 2 роки тому +5

    If ea is gonna continue investing only in FUT while neglecting the career modes who knows maybe fifa can claim this market

    • @KiteDrache
      @KiteDrache Рік тому

      and they will do exactley this it wouldnet be suppriese for me if the new EA game has only 'FUT after the spitt and nothing more for the same price

  • @opsimathics
    @opsimathics 2 роки тому +9

    "lol" said everyone, "lmao"

  • @yagzkoc590
    @yagzkoc590 Рік тому

    Hopefully competition will result in more improvement but I doubt so

  • @mrhernandez739
    @mrhernandez739 Рік тому

    Good stuff

  • @rage9278
    @rage9278 2 роки тому +9

    Nice video but please change this narrator.

    • @Daniel-ro8tq
      @Daniel-ro8tq 2 роки тому

      You can stop watching these video

    • @BiggieTrismegistus
      @BiggieTrismegistus Рік тому

      Agreed. The script itself is fine but the narrator is obnoxious. I didn't think it was possible for someone narrating a video to overacf but somehow he manages it.

  • @mrisa4682
    @mrisa4682 2 роки тому +11

    let’s face the fact , Ultimate Team will carry EA Sports FC , that’s why EA aren’t too worried about FIFA’s branding , Other companies may create another football game but they won’t be able to recreate something similar to Ultimate Team , it may not be perfect but it makes it super addictive

    • @Islandman776
      @Islandman776 2 роки тому +10

      Can’t believe people actually like that segment of the game it’s so wack I just want a great career mode hope of these two companies understand that’s where the bread will be coming from

    • @mrisa4682
      @mrisa4682 2 роки тому

      @@Islandman776FUT is fun cos of promo cards , you won’t get to see a 97 Benzema/96 vini jr in career mode hahaa

    • @TheSunMoon
      @TheSunMoon 2 роки тому +4

      ​@@Islandman776 precisely! FUT is not the main focus for everyone, but it's the only focus for EA, sadly.. I'd like a proper career mode too

  • @li_il
    @li_il 2 роки тому +1

    you didnt mention that there are 2 games currently under development. Goalz and EFL. EFL will be released this year.

  • @DannyBurns____
    @DannyBurns____ 2 роки тому

    There seems to be a ticking sound near the end of the video

  • @StriderDSC
    @StriderDSC 2 роки тому +3

    I know everyone hated the Super League and I know everyone has a love/hate relationship with EA Sports, but both of these situations are born out of pure greed from FIFA. If these types of major splits have been attempted, with BOTH citing that FIFA's greed and revenue sharing are unfathomable...I wonder what that means for the future of the actual sport. Scary times for football.

  • @Brandon517
    @Brandon517 2 роки тому +7

    Couldn’t watch all this. The narrator sounds funky, in a bad way. Sounds like that one guy with his voice all muffled.

    • @kastablank
      @kastablank 2 роки тому +1

      exactly...

    • @BiggieTrismegistus
      @BiggieTrismegistus Рік тому

      His delivery is too stilted. He's the narrator equivalent of someone overacting in a movie.

  • @SiccazHD
    @SiccazHD 2 роки тому

    I hope this competition will finally make some good games

  • @IceManAFC
    @IceManAFC 2 роки тому

    These next couple of years will be very interesting in terms of the upcoming football games that will be available to everyone. EA Sports FC, the new FIFA game, eFootball, as well as the new Goals and UFL games that are currently in development.

  • @sayveetwice
    @sayveetwice 2 роки тому +3

    FIFA could partner with Konami and release something awesome and competitive. EA FIFA series is filled with bugs and sometimes unplayable. Unrealistically making unnecessary changes. Tactical defending, timed shots. All very silly concepts. While not focusing on match engine, UI and smooth player experience itself.
    The only way is for FIFA to partner with Konami. Will be interesting for all parties.

  • @ras7646
    @ras7646 2 роки тому +3

    Looking at other franchises like Star Wars ditching EA, there has been a public outcry over their abuse of exclusive rights to just get money. Hopefully 2K gets the contract, they have the grit to create something great and provide substantial competition.
    FIFA 2k24 doesn't sound so bad also

  • @daudivilla
    @daudivilla 2 роки тому +1

    Damn I'll miss those FIFA playlists 🥲

  • @silvianrosianu3637
    @silvianrosianu3637 2 роки тому +1

    The video game series was the only thing that kept people from thinking of "corruption" first when FIFA was mentioned.

  • @fjnemo
    @fjnemo 2 роки тому +5

    2k needs to partner with Fifa to make a new game

  • @mermaidman1985
    @mermaidman1985 2 роки тому +17

    The Eidos/Sports Interactive split sprang to mind when I first saw this vid. Add in Yukes leaving the WWE 2k series a couple of years back, the staff who replaced them tried there best but 2k20 was such a disaster in terms of bugs etc that they didn't even release 2k21!, they had to take time and miss a whole year of potential sales!

    • @adhynugroho9424
      @adhynugroho9424 2 роки тому +2

      It was a big decision by both the devs and WWE to skip a year. But credit to them, they seemed to have learned some valuable lessons. I know the comparative bar was set super low, but WWE 2K22 is leaps and bounds better than WWE 2K20.

  • @another_loser6976
    @another_loser6976 2 роки тому

    Hopefully this will lead to more competition leading to better games

  • @adobotravels
    @adobotravels Рік тому +2

    I remember the days when video games were played for fun instead of money….

  • @albertol1529
    @albertol1529 2 роки тому +4

    There is a counter argument which you’ve omitted. If FIFA were/are smart, they’d have opened talks prior to their decision to part with EA. Don’t underestimate the motivating pull of buckets of money for a top developer to get involved. A lot depends on the IP of the teams and the players and who will definitely get those. If EA has secured the IP not just for the leagues but the teams and players, then FIFA are stuffed.
    EA’s FIFA is not the best. For example, full manual control is not possible. Matching algorithms won’t allow games between full manual players. Thus there’s very little skill when the computer is augmenting the player. I’d be happier to see a game with full manual control, no rip off in game purchases and no annual updates where the only change is the year. If FIFA has partnered with Socios and say 2k, then EA will have a fight on their hands.

    • @GRNorman514
      @GRNorman514 2 роки тому

      EA have already announced that every partnership they have is continuing.

  • @GamingRobioto
    @GamingRobioto 2 роки тому +3

    This makes (inadvertently) EA sound like the good guys. Far from it, thier football games have been stagnant for many years with all game modes except the gambling simulator taking a back seat. There is no innovation, the gameplay had barely changed in years and the AI has zero variation and is blatantly scripted to further prop up the gambling mode.

  • @noahlabella6887
    @noahlabella6887 2 роки тому

    Only Iain would find a way to subliminally make this video into a football manager ad

  • @charlesmeyrick1219
    @charlesmeyrick1219 Рік тому

    a very nice video, intriguing stuff - hope there's a follow up when we see what FIFA have been cooking up. I do hate EA. But also I kinda hate FIFA.... but I do love football. The whole thing is very complex.

  • @dylanansah8886
    @dylanansah8886 2 роки тому +19

    The simple answer is that EA is cheap. From robbing consumers every year and profiting of ultimate team with lack luster gameplay, Fifa saw their income they generated every year and increase their offer for the original deal. Either way both Madden and Fifa will bank on variables such as the death of John Madden and the last Fifa game to push another sets of unfixed broken games.

  • @adhynugroho9424
    @adhynugroho9424 2 роки тому +3

    If FIFA (the organization) totally bomb with their new game, they'll have to find more creative ways to be corrupt to cover their losses.

  • @Cardonammr
    @Cardonammr 2 роки тому

    Watching out for this UFL ting. Might be mad🤯

  • @adanhamza5360
    @adanhamza5360 2 роки тому

    Concerned to see how the gameplay is affected by this decision.

  • @MJ-27
    @MJ-27 2 роки тому +6

    "EA SPORTS FC" doesn't feel right.

    • @RUBB3Rman
      @RUBB3Rman 2 роки тому

      Hopefully you'll still play it if it proves to be better than whatever FIFA comes up with. We should be giving our hard earned money to the game that focuses on the enjoyment of the players the most, not the one with the best name.

  • @RajA-me9cl
    @RajA-me9cl 2 роки тому +4

    EA deserved this. I don’t know why I feel happy.

  • @0ex3ex2
    @0ex3ex2 2 роки тому

    What an amazing stadium in the background 🤩

  • @jonathancamut7287
    @jonathancamut7287 Рік тому +1

    EA is really good at attaching excitement to players. It’s magical getting to control the players that you watch and the global stars. Every other aspect of there fifa series needs massive work.

  • @plus12gaming
    @plus12gaming 2 роки тому +10

    "EA Sports' polished & popular series..." 🤣🤣🤣
    There are so many bugs still existing years later, they wouldn't know polish if Robert Lewandowski showed up on their doorstep.

    • @delflickmaestro34
      @delflickmaestro34 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, I clicked dislike as soon as that phrase was said. Are they shilling for EA?
      FIFA are a well known scummy organisation (that's putting it mildly) and as for EA...
      They can both do one.

    • @Sui_Generis0
      @Sui_Generis0 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah the script writer who's heavily involved in football manager must've not played fifa for the last 5 years to write that down

  • @aimansaufi9205
    @aimansaufi9205 2 роки тому +3

    Infantino the infant

  • @jr_xtreme8940
    @jr_xtreme8940 Рік тому +1

    Hopefully this brings more competition into the game. EA/Fifa had such a stronghold on the sports that they dismissed their fan base

  • @humongousgallus4152
    @humongousgallus4152 2 роки тому

    Could you do a video on why theres no Brazilian League (Brasileirão) on FIFA games?

  • @davewilliam5315
    @davewilliam5315 Рік тому +3

    All fun and games till FIFA and Konami partner up 💀🔥

  • @randomcon123
    @randomcon123 2 роки тому +4

    Btw, even back in 2003, gamers were well aware of the split… at least I was and I, as a young kid, went with the brand that owned the data and intelligence. It was really a simple decision, even back then for a ten year old so good luck to FIFA.

  • @joeypeawood4656
    @joeypeawood4656 Рік тому

    Non simulation games makes me really want to see a FIFA game in the style of Red Card from back in the day

  • @jeffdbaker71
    @jeffdbaker71 2 роки тому +1

    I never thought I would be siding with FIFA in any situation. Electronic Arts has been taking advantage of its position for well over a decade. Every iteration of the game has very few updates to gameplay and AI, with most changes being in updated visuals, and stats on players while charging the customer full price every year. The only meaningful fix updates happened to Ultimate Football which happens to be the part of the game that makes the most money.