2015 Personality Lecture 05: Constructivism: Jean Piaget
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- Опубліковано 20 січ 2015
- University of Toronto PSY230
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January 20, 2015
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I am studying Piaget's cognitive development now and I can confidently say that Prof. Jordan Peterson is a well of knowledge.
Anyone else a well of knowledge regarding Piaget?
@@lukajung9051 Piaget himself I imagine.
@@BigPhil2024 Sarcasm. Nice. It is good to know of other thinkers who are engaged with Giants.
A trick: you can watch series at kaldrostream. Been using them for watching loads of movies recently.
@Ronin Graysen definitely, I have been watching on KaldroStream for years myself :)
Thank you for putting these online, it means a lot. I've always had a great interest in psychology but never got the chance to study it.
These lectures are gold and putting them up like this for free is amazing. I'm starting to imagine a future where ability decides destination rather than privilege.
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You mean the ability of having good parents or the privilege of being born to good (i.e. sane) parents?
Think they mean class
Watch Pursuit of Happiness and shut the fuck up
Francis Koira if. If not for white privileged, everyone would have good parents, even those with horrible, irresponsible, parents who have no common sense because white privilege made them horrible and irresponsible and delusional to begin with. Personally, I blame the fascists, but my Antifa brothers and myself will soon fix all that, but we must do it soon, because it’s almost 10:00 PM, and mom wants me home by 10:00 on school nights.
"Don't use high level negative abstractions to characterize your behavior or that of others.
What you have to do in order to (help a person) you have to decompose the process until you hit the level at which they're competent and then you have to teach them how to integrate those things they know into the next stages of development, so it's a complex decomposition. And then you're actually helpful."
The best lesson about life I needed to hear years ago.
"You must know that there is nothing higher, or stronger, or sounder, or more useful afterwards in life, than some good memory, especially a memory from childhood, from the parental home. You hear a lot said about your education, yet some such beautiful, sacred memory, preserved from childhood, is perhaps the best education. If a man stores up many such memories to take into life, then he is saved for his whole life."
Those r raw words at its core raw meaning tru
The corollary is also true.. parents with trauma create family environment dynamics that messed a child up for the rest of their life..
That's how trauma propagates from one generation to another.. quietly.. in its subtle ways.. like a surprise hitchhiker..
Jordan Peterson is the father i never had... thank you so much for helping me becoming a better person every single day!
"You can think of a child as a non-equilibrated set of quasi-functional and quasi-unified knowledge subsystems". Brilliant.
Jordan B Peterson I cant even wrap my mind around these sentence xD greetings from a poor english comprehender from Germany!
M. G. -- please tell me if you would like this statement elaborated upon. It's a useful conception, and I quite enjoy speaking with people for whom English is their second language
He should write greeting cards
I think this pretty much defines any complex reactive system participating in a world/game of which it lacks perfect knowledge.
Perfectly understandable, and also quite straightforward and economical, each phrase adds something to the statement, no fluff or ornament. Sure, you could just state that a child by its nature is underdeveloped or whatever, but that would leave out the very details he wants to get across, that it specifically lacks equilibrium and cross-system integration. He's fond of mentioning that two years olds oscillate wildly between different states, as the clearest example of this lack of integration and equilibrium. Already a four year old has developed quite a lot along these lines, by comparison.
You are a master of speeches I have started listening to you 2 weeks ago and I haven't been able to stop listening.
4 years later, send help
This has been the densest lecture I’ve heard on this course. I had to hear it two times all over. Granted, English is my second language.
Great body of knowledge, though. It left me with a lot of interest on studying more about Piaget.
Thank you Dr. Peterson.
eventhough constructivism lecture is pretty hard i should admit , i personally find the densest lectures are the ones about shamanic initiations and the archetypes and symbolism or neurphysiology of symbolic representation in maps of meaning
lol , icant get through 15minutes of those without having to take a nap to recharge lol
This was even better than the 2017 version ! Really amazing life advice, especially for a neurotic person like me
In this and previous lectures in the series he delivers an incredible amount of information super fluidly and then every time, at the end, when he needs to figure out when he next sees the class there is this big pause "... Thursday" - which shows how he prioritises his own memory and knowledge.
Can't understand how this doesn't have more views.
41:30 | Problem-solving 101 for individuals
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Love this guys enthusiasm and passion for the subject he lectures
45:35 You're going from point A to poit B... and what do you C? :)
I C there is no N before your T. haha, just messin
Thank you, Mr. Peterson, for sharing your lections online. I see how they are changing my state of mind. My ability to argue, and passion to live, more like a responsible person. It's like finding an anchor in chaos. Anchor inside my own mind.
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Thank you for making these available. They are quite brilliant
Great to have these high level lectures at the touch of a button. Thank you.
Thank you for the free "higher learning" sir.
Thank you so much for your lectures, they really help to understand things better and broader.
16:41 - Family peace necessary for successes
I again am sipping at Dr. Petersons fire hose of knowledge
God bless you! Thank you for your work!
Most professors don't even care about what they're doing. You can see jp really means what he's saying. And he really knows this stuff. Love listening to him
You give me loads of facts and figures information. I like that
Good people:good parent:good job and take care your family
4:40 If we don't have absolute truth about anything, how do you know that what you know is enough? Pragmatic response is: you set your own conditions for truth with each of your actions, and the way you do that is by specifying an outcome.
For Piaget, Truth is determined in action
This is fantastic!!!!
Thank you. Amazing!
32:05 "You are motivated to learn what you do does not produce what you wanted to do"
Is that a polar bear on the board? ....that depends
At 35:05 the last 8-10~ minutes were the explanation of what I was doing the moment I started watching this lecture
If you want an example of Dr. Peterson's view that man can and is a net good on the world--and the battle, see Frank Lloyd Wright's Falling Water. A human building that enhances nature. They both look better there together. And oddly Wright embraced Petersons truth epic, as his line was Truth is Life. Soul brothers.
I like the chalk angel wing.
Hmm less people made it this far
Excellent
Thank you
"We know that we can't have absolute truth about anything..." (4:35)
So that's not an absolute truth. But it's pretty absolutely formulated as if it was ...
Does anyone know how to use this reference this lecture as a citation? It would be insanely helpful... thank you!
The Piaget quote:
The common postulate of various traditional epistemologies is that knowledge is a fact and not a process and that if our various forms of knowledge are always incomplete and our various sciences still imperfect, that which is acquired is acquired and can therefore be studied statically, hence the absolute position of the problems “What is knowledge or how are the various types of knowledge possible ?” . Under the converging influence of a series of factors we’re tending more and more today to regarding knowledge as a process, more than a state any being or object that science is attempting to hold fast is dissolves once again in the current of development it is the last analysis of this development and of it alone that we have the right to state it is a fact what we can and should then seek is the law of this process. We’re well aware on the other hand of the fine book by Thomas Kuhnn on scientific revolutions . The first aim of genetic epistemology is therefore as one can say so to take psychology seriously and to furnish verifications to any question which each epistemology necessarily raises yet replacing the generally unsatisfying speculative or implicit psychology with controllable analysis . To know means to act , human knowledge is essentially active, to know is to transform reality in order to understand how a certain state is brought about. Knowing an object does not mean copying it, it means acting upon it . Knowing reality means constructing systems of transformation that correspond more or less adequately to reality. Knowledge is a system of transformations , that becomes progressively adequate. In fact if all knowledge is always in the state of development and consists and preceding from one state to a more complete and efficient one, evidently it is question of knowing this development and analyzing it with the greatest possible accuracy.
Upon what does an individual base his judgments ?
What are his norms ?
How is it that these norms are validated ?
What's the interest of such norms for the philosophy of science in general ?
How does the fact that children think differently affect our presumption of fact itself ?
How do children conceptualize number and space and time and speed?
How do they understand that objects hidden from view are still there ?
How can they understand that entities that can transform from one place to another are the same entities ?
How do we understand chance or moral concerns, play patterns or dreams and how is it that we imitate others and what does it mean that we can ?
Knowledge does not begin in the I and it does not begin in the object , it begins in the interactions ,there's a reciprocal and simultaneous construction of the subject on the one hand and the object on the other . There’s no structure apart from construction either abstract or genetic.
There is only the truth, it's not relativistic and does't depend on personal opinion..
Amazing
Breaking down strategies to fix a neurotic persons function to life. I will say I was kinda neurotic Buh breaking down situations is super important
Should you just assume you've calibrated the machine wrong? @51:17 Shouldn't these fundamental axiomatic presuppositions be challenged regardless as a way to potentially enter the realm of chaos, which leads to creativity? The statement, that you should just assume it's error runs contrary to what was stated early. Namely, that facts are capable of changing over time. Whether it be of their 'objective' nature or the perspective used to view them.
very interesting, will continue watching it
@23:57 Clash of clan is a good example;
25:30..... I don't know, maybe Hockey-Chess could become very popular.
Thank you for giving a lecture about him!
equilibration is much better.
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He later uses competence hierarchy instead of dominance hierarchy.
same thing as long as humans are concerned really
Knowledge:effect/state not process
I should tell myself to pick thinks up and put them in a certain place . Maybe I'll listen lol .
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Holidays in Canada twice a season lol.
I would absolutely love to see Trump in 2024 but only as VP to Peterson :D
Cant believe this is free. How do netflix and cable stay in business
Does anyone know of the MMO that he is referring to that collapsed into anarchy?
"Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game".
@@beecee9681 I know the acronym. The game specifically
I wish you could give me advice. I don't want to do this anymore
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Free university. How about that
I've never read Piaget but his idea of knowledge seems to have been influenced by Heidegger.
Can you explain pls
1:03:08 Thats a hella smart 3 yo child to be able to construct that sentence XD
Wish he explained the fundamentals a bit more
This is a lecture from his psychology 230 class at UofT. It’s far from a fundamental lecture series
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Yes
My singntcher only you
@1:02:48+ “Now you’re talking to a three-year-old…I heard it but I didn’t have any idea what you meant…” Once upon a time, when dealing with adults to whom I had to communicate something I required of them, I would patiently explain the matter at first, and if they did not understand I would patiently explain again. But if they still appeared not to understand, grumpiness came in and patience went out of the window. The leap from patience to impatient and peeved reiteration happened so fast that I did not fathom what lay beneath. It was like watching the launch of a small cruise missile. When I managed to observe the process more closely, I realised the rising embarrassment that my explanation had apparently been inadequate (painful), this meant I was inadequate (painful!), which meant the other person was telling me I was inadequate, which meant they were a rotten good-for-nothing who really knew what I meant but was deliberately fudging it…That’s a lot to pack into a second! When I responded to my fear of inadequacy with self-directed compassion, I could see that the other person actually wanted to understand and was doing the best they could, but my words just had the wrong associations for them. No one has to be embarrassed about that. Most words (squiggles, noises, bumps…maybe some civilisation exists with smelled or tasted words, or words differentiated by temperature, etc:-) are not patented; even when they are, like Hoover or Thermos flask, it probably will not be long before they are appropriated for something else. It is amazing how many unsuspected associations words may have for people who are not trying deliberately to misunderstand ones words. So I tried to find out what they did not understand and looked for other words with which to explain, trying to find words they understood that aligned with what I meant. That way life went a lot better for all concerned.
That bear behind him is really distracting
that isn't a bear, it's the silhouette of a sitting frog turning away
a couple videos ago it was the dome of the U.S. capitol building
Fucking pink elephant
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Constructacons?! Lol
This was a terrible lecture. It was a hodgepodge of information not integrated into a coherent whole. I was hoping to hear a lecture on Cognitive Development, and how that fits into other theories of development. Jordan Peterson: there is something called an outline. Stick to it so we can follow.
Adapt.
@@Executor009 I heard somewhere the phrase "mental agility of wet cement", I think this guy easily fits in that phrase. Maybe he doesn't read a lot and has a hard time keeping up with communication. Maybe English isn't his first language. Idk. It seems pretty obvious this was a great lecture.
JP warned us in the first lecture that this is his style and that if your personality type is highly organized you might want to look elsewhere.
Seems like you were running late buddy , if you had heard all the previous lessons you would have known how he teaches