John John Florence vs. Gabriel Medina - Billabong Pro Tahiti 2016 Semifinals
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- Don't Miss these high-scoring highlights from Gabriel Medina and John John Florence in Heat 2 of the Semifinals.
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they both should have scored 20 watching that again, incredible heat and waves..
Could watch heats like this over and over. Insane!
Love rewatching this heat. Truly remarkeable surfing from both John and Medina. Both in their primes at perfect 6-8ft Teahupoo. Amazing.
Barrel riding isn’t just about how deep you are. Johns waves were so unmakeable but he surfed those tubes so well that he made it out easily. Deserved scores and win
Heat of the year, perhaps. One of the two surfers had to come out on top, and with a heat that close, it's not surprising that there is dissension. I say congrats.s to the WSL for having the best, most prepared and experienced, impartial group of judges the sport of surfing could ever ask for. If John John hadn't caught that last wave and performed the most miraculous drop directly into that gaping tube, and then got spit out to complete his ride, Gabriel would have won. For someone to say "shame on you" to the WSL after a terribly difficult heat to judge such as this one, they are clearly the one(s) speaking and acting with bias. Keep up the good work Judges!
I can't wait to see who WSL is going to choose to win the next event. Their script just keeps getting better and better!
medina pegou ondas mais limpas e entubou fundo, mas john john elevou o nivel demais...olha só esses drops debaixo do lip!!! mereceu ganhar!
Esses dois realmente são o futuro do surf, toda bateria deles pega fogo.
Concordo com os locutores da língua portuguesa... "tem que ter uma tríplice coroa dessas ondas tubulares ( Fiji, Tahiti, Pipeline)". Se tivesse a briga tava boa entre os dois, o pau ia cantar no Hawaii.
Super heat! While I would have given that to Medina, it was a tough call. We need to see these two pitted against each other more.
shame on all the people trying to take away from john's big moment. this was a brilliant match, fair scoring and the compeptitors embraced at end. i understand being passionate about the guy you feel represents your country. i am a huge toledo fan so i am not a brazil hater. but when passion verges over into blinded bullying, it's gone too far. we saw this at the olympics too with the french athlete as he received his silver medal. you create ill will for medina when there is no need to. he can create his own wins==bullying pressure from supporters is not helpful. there are times when i think john is underscored because he makes things look so easy rather than adding drama and flourishes that say "i just did something big!". but i know that it is my bias, and i try not to constantly whine about it. we all have blind spots when it comes to the person we support. try to have some mature awareness of that and respect for the process and for a great moment.
Essa foi garfada... mas o campeão vai voltar!!
Good luck in the 19' Billabong Pro. Watched that video of that Tahitian " code red" the other day and excuse my language but that is f****** crazy. Looks like one wave you would be squashed or that reef would tear you apart. Got respect for Kelly he's an older man and still charging one of the most besides pipe the most powerful waves have.
As someone who's new to the WSL, can someone explain to me: are the surfers only getting points for riding in the tube, or can they also get points for air tricks? Because it seems like they only ride the tube and not much else
Insane heat. The future looks good for these two. Can anyone explain why the top seeded guys met in the semi though??
Damn, that's such a close heat but one guy had to win. No matter the outcome, there's going to be a group of people who believe on guy got robbed.
Quanto ao 9,73... vamos parar de choradeira , "PARA QUE TA FEIO!". O drop de John John foi insano, de cabeça para baixo, locão mesmo, coisa de quem não tem medo, ele poderia tirar uma nota excelente como poderia se machucar sério. Ai os juízes acrescentaram o "adicional de periculosidade" kkkkk.
Parabés ao cabelo de miojo, ganhou merecidamente.
Pois é cara, a galera que ta falando talvez nunca tenha tirado um tubo de backside na vida, e não sabem a periculosidade e a dificuldade dos drop +tubo que John Florence tava botando pra baixo. Vitória merecida em minha opinião
Me desculpe, mas esse argumento não é válido. Sendo assim, se os dois surfarem uma onda de mesmo tamanho e ficarem a mesma quantidade de tempo dentro do tubo o Jonh Jonh sempre terá que ter uma nota maior? Lógico que não, dessa forma estaríamos julgando aspectos biológicos dos ser humano.
não são aspectos biológicos. isso é surf. surfistas regular stance levam certa vantagem teahupoo, primeiro porque sempre será mais dificil para eles completar o tubo, e caso completem, a nota sera um pouco elevada pelo grau de dificuldade, segundo que alguns afirmam preferirem entubar de backside, como jeremy flores por exemplo, pois o grab rail dá estabilidade. assim como os goofys tambem tem a sua vantagem que é entubar de frontside e ter total controle da onda. Resumindo: é mais facil para os goofys, ou seja, para um goofy tirar a mesma nota que um regular despencando no grab rail e encaixando no trilho, ele precisa dropar atrasado, ficar profundo e andar mais tempo no barrel. Então, está certo oq voce disse, se os dois andarem o mesmo tempo e a onda tiver o mesmo tamanho, o regular leva vantagem.
Isso explica um pouquinho o motivo pelo qual os regulares dominam o tour ha tantos anos (antes de medina em 2014, só tivemos CJ hobgood em 2001 e occhilupo em 1999 nos ultimo 20 poucos anos). Não há muitas direitas tubulares no tour, quando há, é um tubo espremido como jbay ou um buraco impossivel como the box em margaret, com exceção do backdoor que medina ja demonstrou maestria. Já as esquerdas são sempre grandes e com a boca aberta, como fiji tahiti e pipeline, ficando mais facil para um surfista de backside completar, ou seja, mesmo quando é para os regulares estarem em desvantagem, eles estão em vantagem. espero que dê pra entender
Medina garfado e pronto
JJF over score all time. Crazy! Medina wins.
Best heat of the year.
When you call someone (John John) "naturally talented" you're not appreciating the amount of work he and his brother have committed to this sport. Didn't his dad build a skateboard ramp/pool in his backyard?
Naturally talented+years of hard work=John John florence.
Fresno
Se você pega uma onda e faz tubo profundo, demorado e perfeito tira 10. Aí seu adversário pega uma onda boa também, mas seu tubo, embora profundo, é rápido e tira 9.93. Não tem sentido isto, pois o 9,93 foi proporcionalmente mais valorizado que o 10 e praticamente é uma nota 10. Com certeza a nota de JJF seria entre 9,5 e 9,6. Sua nota de virada seria mais difícil de ser alcançada. Deram uma exagerada naquele 9,93. Não tem sentido você preencher todos os requisitos para tirar 10 e outro que não fez tudo tirar um 10 proporcional.
Simple ... Epic...... What a mousters.....pipes ...eaters......for my....100% .... Perfect. 10 ....for both....
A última onda do Medina muito melhor que a última do jjf, mais tempo dentro do tubo, saiu com baforada e tudo. Mais...fazer oq
Esses gringos garfao o medina sempre. Nesta etapa eu nem dormi direito. Por causa desta mão grande
3:35 / 7:00
Why was the first one a 9.23 and the last one a 9.77 when both got pretty much the same deepness almost the same tube duration and nearly the same height, with Medina's tube being even a little taller? I love John John, and I also love all the WSL crew for creating us the opportunity to watch some really amazing events, but clearly, this heat was Medina's...
JJF last wave was a 9.73, my bad :/
look at the drop and you will understand
The man literally dropped in on a foam ball and rode it the whole wave. jjf wins this heat
Agreed. John claimed at the end to sway judges, who fear the mob. He always claims when he fears losing...Mick Fanning taught him it works.
john john's drop on the 9.73 was the most critical of the heat if that means anything. even if they gave him a 9.4 he still would have won. Also, his 9.93 should have been a ten. just saying :)
agree with you, brow... 9.73 not because the wave, but because it was the most difficult drop and wave to finish
Joao Pedro He positioned himself so that he could get a better score. Also, it was at least a 9.31 which is what he needed.
I think the 9,93 was an overscored Wave.... 9,93 is basically a ten, if you compare with gabe's 10 the Wave should be a 8,90-9,20
G.Medina Born in the Atlantic Ocean with small and unstable waves is complete and this scares and intimidates these biased bugs! The battery is clear and obvious
@@josinhogoda3687 i think you should take in the consideration that john was using the back hand which is more difficult than the forehand bro bro
how did Medina not win that?(and I have enormous respect for JJ!)
because JJF dropped the most difficult wave of the heat (9.73)
It was a much smaller wave even with the drop slip and the tube was short. Medina got a better wave before that one and no way it deserve a lower scor
let me esplain. (explain) here is what happened, for everyone to understand, despite all the arguments/opinions out there, here are the FACTS. (in my opinion) ;) FACT#1 is Gabriel's scores are (in real life) a 10 and 9.5 which is slightly higher (in my opinion) so overall he was scored pretty well, I think. on the other hand, you have JohnJohn who SHOULD have (this is FACT#2) a 9.8 (nearly a 10 point ride but its not) and a 8.5 at best. basically he is overscored on his 9.73 ride, because he claimed it (so it must have been insane!) and because he dropped in with his head down so basically eyes-closed, which is pretty tough to do, of course, but the wave itself is nowhere near (not even close) to Gabriel's 10 pointer. so John John was overscored. that's what happened. FACT. (in my opinion)
as? I'm trying to understand so far? you're crazy?
@@vickryan whatever dude.
Such gnarly surfing
Florence's 9,73 to win the heat was absolutely the same wave of Medina's 9,1. Medina's wave even had the plus with the spit at the end. Anyone can do this comparison. What the fuck was that WSL?!?!
And talking about the drop, JJF was more difficult than Gabriel, but the wave was the same. Medina did it easily because he is a goofy, it's fair give a 0,63 difference because one is regular and other is goofy?? JJF's 9,73 was not longer than Medina's 9,1 because the drop.
Medina's 10 was the bigger wave of the heat by far. Florence's 9,93 was very technical, but was smaller than Medina's 10. A 9,93 was to much. Gabriel was technical too in a bigger wave and the difference was just 0,07.
Remeber Pipe 2014?? Wilson beat Medina because got bigger waves, even though Medina got most technical waves.
Sorry I like JJ but his 9.73 last wave, even with the drop slip, wasn't better from Medina's last wave
JJ and Medina are the greatest surfer from their generation until now, but Medina has a disavantage, he is Brazilian. I didn't see anyone screaming, angry or complaining because JJ did a BIG claim in his last wave, and maybe because of it he got this overscored grade!!! Imagine if instead of JJ was Medina doing that claim?????
Medina does do those claims all the time, so what are you talking about? i have no problem with claims, although I thought Jordy this year did a few that were so far over the top they were bizarre. But john just threw his hands up. There is no disadvantage in being Brazilian--you've won two championships, one with a mediocre surfer (although I admire his tenacity). So how is that discrimination?
JJ, Kely, others, don't?
wtf........judges must be numb... jj never won this heat, clearly wsl won´t let another brazilian world title....
What a SHAME!! An incredible heat, but ruined with the last wave score. 9.73??? It's cristal clear when you compare with the low nines... Shame on you WSL..
i would of given that a 9.73 easily and im from Aus so im not biased the wave itself isn't worth the score its the degree of difficulty that made it
+anthippo91 agreed John John took off right under the lip which is pretty difficult
100% agree
If you're going to say it was overscored then Medina's 10 was way overscored.
+13dirty666 that 10 was definitely not overscored, but John johns 9.73 was underscored to be honest
john john is a great surfer, but Gabriel got robbed by the haole judges.
Esse 9.73 foi uma vergonha.WSL faz isso porque tem os atletas na mão
That is why i like to watch these heats after the fan heart is gone and reason comes back in mind. Always thought Medina got ripped off on this heat,now seeing again without the heat of the moment is totally different. Have to say uau ,,,,they ripped him off big time...LoL. Just joking,in fact it changed my mind and agree with JJ victory,JJ last wave was over 9.31. Well deserved victory,now in the final where did he go? He gave it to Kelly,and the GOAT missed the perfect time to retire....Kelly,Kelly sorry to say but you blew it.
john wins by a prejudice jury
Shame on you WSL! Medina got the win
shame on you for bullying. it is no longer passion--it's gone beyond that into blindness and disrespect, just like the olympics.
ok then why don't you try do a crazy late take off with the lip on you shoulders and tell me if John didn't deserve the 9.73. Medina deserved the 10 though the wave was perfect
can not go on like this wsl battery was not the right result How long will you keep this up the girl garfado again then another event! Unfortunate :/
Potz has a 5 word vocabulary
for me medina got a 10 and a 9 !!!! whem you get a 10 like that , jon jon best wave was far from medina 10 point ride!! so for me jon jon got 9.3 and a 9.2 medina won 19 x 18.5 !! medina 10 point ride is the key
Mais uma garfada no Medina!!!!
"tHiS kId DoEsNt ClAiM"
it was boss
shaaaame
JJ’s got this place wired!!
( I know it’s his home break)
And Still
His homebreak is the North Shore, not Teahupoo.
@@fernandomaron87 I do not know what I was smoking that day …..
Outra vez roubado que medo é esse dos Brazilian storm.
Incoherent notes. In my opinion.
Hoje em 2023 descobrimos que está liga . Prejudica os brasileiros! Nunca que Florence ganhou nesta etapa
Com certeza JJF surfa demais mas, nada tira da minha cabeça que essas notas apertadas são sempre tendenciosas. É fato, Gabriel precisa ser notavelmente superior, pois na dúvida vai perder. É como se fosse um desafiante a cinturão no UFC, ele tem que ser muito melhor que o campeão.
cry brazil!!! hahahahahahaha JJF is the best
robbed!
Never, Medina is the best
9/11
JJ five wins in live
Medina five wins in 2017/2018
@@kauannaavelar1417 nobody cares.
BS award winner 2016
Medina won this heat, i'ts very cleaar!!
SHAME
im here to see the Brazilians crying
New school rivalry? Medina is ages beyond John. The only place John is as good as Medina is on big left barrels but this heat is clear to me that Medina won. But if you really watch their surfing with no bias you can see clearly that Medina is way superior
ha! no bias? right, because that would be how you're seeing it? you would see medina getting a 9 on the wave he fell on. Medina ages beyond John? That doesn't even make sense.
Draxler Razor yes medina is superior-in doing pooy looking turns and being a little cry baby bitch when he loses. Haha fuck you jj is so much better
biggest load of bullshit I've ever read
Medina probably did win but if anyone is going to get screwed over in a heat it deserves to be him.
a famosa garfada
GM had 1 slightly bigger wave. JJF had 2 critical drops and on one of them he shouldv had a 10 and he's on his backhand. Even Potz said only 2 people couldv pulled off those drops and that was JJ and KS. Stop the crying.
Judge Judge Florence
Essa onda de jhon jhon nunca que valia 9.73. É so comparar com o 10 de Medina, uma diferença de 0.27 decimo pelo amor de deus é só comparar.
Ridículo mais uma vez....vergonha......
"this kid doesnt claim"
yeah... he just did
robbed!
Brasileiro chora muito. Não é futebol! Para que ta feio. kkkkk
Definition:
Brazilian surf supporter = sore loser/ungracious winners (obviously not all of them but for once in your life, try see a result without bias. Could have gone either way.)
SHAME