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63 years later, the symbolism, Bible vs Science book, faith vs knowledge, sentimentalism vs cynicism, all balanced in the closing shot of a hall of justice. Relevant as ever especially in the realm of our current media landscape. Marvelous performances by all.
The mastery of this scene is that both men are right. They seem to be at odds, but both couldn’t be closer to the truth. You will never see a film this well written any more.
@Nicksonian Did you notice that so many of the great singers and dancers became very good in the movies? Sinatra, Crosby, and Kelly just come to mind. We've so many prolific geniuses from the past into the present or future. For example, a totally funny Robin Williams turned out to be an actor where millions of us could relate to. Nice to get comments from folks who know about history and the people who helped make the positive vibes.
@@jeffryhammel3035 Sinatra is a wonder. Growing up in the 1960s and 70s I didn’t think much of Sinatra, but then I learned about jazz and a wider range of music and have come to love his singing. And then there’s his acting. His work in The Manchurian Candidate should have earned him an Oscar nomination. And there’s his other films like From Here to Eternity. Bing Crosby may not have had the acting range of Sinatra, but he was the most popular entertainer in the U.S. for about a decade. Of course, the thing Kelly had was that not only could he sing and act, but damn he could dance. Fred Astaire had grace and class, while Kelly was powerful and inventive. And Astaire was another all-around talent, although he wasn’t quite the actor the others were.
Yeah, this was perhaps his greatest performance, and I think his last great film. I love the look on his face while Tracy is berating him-he's really shook by it. And then he does his customary smirk and gives a zinger back. This is still my favorite film, after all these years.
@@Shadowman4710 When I shared this clip, I mentioned that I believe it's quite possible that his tears were real. I feel the same about Frank Sinatra's acting skills, which I treasure more than his well deserved fame as a singer and entertainer.
How I miss the time when words had meaning and there were men who understood how powerful they could be. Almost every sentence in this scene could be emblazoned on a monument.
Tracy towers as perhaps the greatest actor in Hollywood history. The outstanding screenplay and timing of dialogue throughout the movie, with Kelly and March performing superbly in supporting roles, make this movie and especially this ending among the finest one will see on screen. How this movie did not win the Oscar is criminal.
I didn't like the constant hymn singing during the first part of the movie. No matter the movie I watch it if Tracy is in it. I watch movies for the story not the star. I make an exception for Tracy. One of Tracy's best and based on a true situation. That's the other reason this is such a great movie.
It wasn't even nominated for best picture. The Apartment won. Not a bad movie, but it pales next to this. ShannonFreng was correct. There has always been politics in Hollywood. This came out during the Red Scare and blacklist era when we were all looking for communists under our beds. The pendulum has now swung the other way, but the politics are still there. Note how Shakespeare in Love actually beat Saving Private Ryan.
Yes, and sadly, manmade political government is still secular. We should not have manmade political government in tyrannical control of education. So, always identify the root cause of a defect or failure and avoid wasting time on symptoms.
@@DrownedInExile, Well of course that is your opinion however the history of the world teaches just the opposite. Manmade political governments have committed the atrocity of wars of mass murder/slaughter, the ruination and pain of economic recessions, the ruination and pain from the debauchery of the money via inflation/legalized counterfeiting, the ruination of morality and wellbeing via the welfare state that is based on the immorality of looting A to satisfy B/stealing and the imposition of stinkin' naggar slave debt slavery via the massive borrowing by the politicians and setting up the debt bomb from hell on future generations.
While great acting is a given from Tracy, I have to say that Kelly gave one of his best performances as a serious, dramatic actor in this film--while he was always a great song-and-dance performer
"Who else would defend my right to be lonely" is my favorite closing line of any film. Henry Drummond (Spencer Tracy): I cannot imagine a world without Matthew Harrison Brady. E.K. Hornbeck (Gene Kelly): Get me the Baltimore Herald, please. Drummond: What did he die of? Did they say? Hornbeck: He died of a busted belly. Drummond: There was once greatness in the man. Hornbeck: Can I quote you in the obituary? Drummond: Write anything you damn-write anything you please. Hornbeck: How do you write an obituary for a man who’s been dead thirty years? Operator? Say, what’d he say to the minister? You know, that fits. He delivered his own obituary. Where’d you put that-oh, there it is. His book! It was Proverbs, wasn’t it? Drummond: “He that troubleth his own house shall inherit the wind: and the fool shall be servant to the wise in heart.” Hornbeck: Wow. Wow, Col. Drummond, we’re growing an odd crop of agnostics this year. Drummond: You know, Hornbeck, I’m getting damn sick of you. Hornbeck: Why? Drummond: You never push a noun against a verb except to blow up something. Hornbeck: You know, that’s a typical lawyer’s trick-accusing the accuser. Drummond: What am I accused of? Hornbeck: Contempt of conscience. Sentimentality in the first degree. Drummond: Why-because I refuse to erase a man’s lifetime? Hornbeck: No. Because you know what I thought of him, and I know what you thought, so let’s leave the lamentations to the illiterate. What is this-“Be Kind to Bigots Week?” Why should we weep for him? ‘Cause he’s dead! Besides, he cried enough for himself during his lifetime. The National Tearduct from Weeping Water, Nebraska. Oh ho, he flooded the nation like a one-man Mississippi. You know what he was, that bible-beating bunko artist! Drummond: A giant once lived in that body. But Matt Brady got lost because he looked for God too high up and too far away. Hornbeck: You hypocrite. You fraud. The atheist who believes in God. You’re just as religious as he was. Drummond: Everything is grist for your mill-isn’t it? Well, go ahead, grind it up: Brady’s past, Cates’s future. My God. Don’t you understand the meaning of what happened here today? Hornbeck: What happened here today has no meaning. Drummond: You have no meaning; you’re like a ghost pointing an empty sleeve and smirking at everything that people feel or want or struggle for. I pity you. Hornbeck: You pity me? Drummond: Isn’t there anything? Wha-what touches you? What warms you? Every man has a dream. What do you dream about, what do you need? You don’t need anything, do you? People, love. An idea, just to cling to. You poor slob. You’re all alone. When you go to your grave, there won’t be anyone to pull the grass up over your head. Nobody to mourn you, nobody to give a damn. You’re all alone. Hornbeck: You’re wrong, Henry. You’ll be there. You’re the type. Who else would defend my right to be lonely?
It's terrible when time moves on isn't it. A person is famous even important and people hear and like what he has to say. Then then the times change he becomes a relic and is forgotten. Matthew Harrison Brady had one last bid for fame and chasing after it killed him. Would anybody remember him and anything that he accomplished?
@@kurtbaumann7686 I don't think it would have mattered whether Brady lived or died. This mountain of bigotry, divisiveness, stupidity and ignorance he helped spawn is all he'd ever be remembered for. If he didn't have the political savvy to recognize that, no wonder he failed to win the presidency 3 times.
Thanks for the transcription. I wish Henry Drummond could have defended the right of the Southern States to secede from the Union before the Civil War.
@@DrownedInExile The characterization in the movie of William Jennings Bryan is totally preposterous and precisely designed to inspire the attitude that you have expressed.
originally..Gene didn't want to do the film..he was spending time with his daughter in Greece..but..when Stan Kramer(The film's producer and director)told him that Spece Tracy and Freddie March were going to portray the lead characters:"Henry Drummound & Mat Brady"? Gene..said to Stan on the phone.."I'm flying out tomorrow.."and he did and he did a brilliant performance as"E.K.Hornbeck".
I've seen plenty of films where a great actor (or two in this case) can bring a powerful performance out of someone not known for being a great actor. Cases in point: The Defiant Ones, Pressure Point, The Devil's Advocate.
What a man. He delivered this brilliant performance a year before Judgment at Nuremberg. Another film that makes you think clearly and leaves you gasping for breath
@CD_Promo, interesting point about Judgment at Nuremberg. The German Judges who were on trial, amoungst others, claimed in their defenses that they were only following orders. The court said that may be but you are still expected to know the difference between right and wrong. This was later called "The Nuremberg Defense" and it did not "wash." Today bureaucrats still gravitate to the "Nuremberg Defense" when they harm others and the gd courts in some cases are allowing it as a defense. Amerika is in the toilet; manmade political government is the bane and pain of mankind; politics is violence; it is not Christian; it is diabolical rot.
After delivering his last line ("Who else would defend my right to be lonely?"), I half-expected Gene Kelly to go dancing lightly out of the courtroom.
We watched this movie in my 9th grade history class, and I remember being so shocked at the plot twist of him picking up both books at the very end. That ending has stuck with me for years and I just think of it sometimes. I'll definitely watch the movie again someday. ~:~
Fredric March took a character that might have been seen as a complete buffoon and imparted a human element that allowed viewers to feel empathy for him. He was the one that should have been nominated, and won, the academy award.
Tracy's performance was towering, but it's hard to argue vs. Frederic March. Two of the greatest actors in the history of motion pictures, if it were possible Tracy and March should have shared the Best Actor Oscar--and Gene Kelly should have gotten Best Supporting Actor award. He proved that he was far, far more than a singer and dancer. Three brilliant performances.
All great performances but no one, including Tracy himself, could have played the role of Brady with the level of humanity that March provided. What could have been just a clown was turned into a flawed but sympathetic character. March's wife gave a similar stellar performance as his on screen wife. Two of the best film performances ever given.
I just came here from watching this film for the first time since high school. (I couldn’t appreciate it - or these masterful performances - back then.) I’m so glad someone uploaded this final scene - which I have now added to my favorite videos. I read raves about Tracy and March, and I thoroughly expected great performances from them (which, of course, they delivered) - but no mentions of Kelly, so I wasn’t sure what to expect. I shouldn’t have wondered. He blew me away. His sarcastic, smart aleck-y lines were delivered deliciously with his characteristic charm - but what impressed me most were the moments in which he wasn’t talking. Watching Fredric March at the dinner table, listening and reacting in the courtroom - and especially his close-up in this magnificent final scene. He said so much, without uttering a word. He really should be lauded alongside March and Tracy. His performance was just as impactful and just as memorable (and it’s my personal favorite of the three).
Gene Kelly was rather nervous doing this film. Especially this scene, alone with Tracy. "I'm a hoofer, swapping dialogue with an actor's actor. I talked to him about my misgivings. He listened, telling me every role builds actor's abilities. I had no illusions about myself. I put the straw hat on, cocked at a dancer's angle, to prove it."
Tracy was a quite the actor. I like this scene; Drummond schools Hornbeck that a person can be a non-believer while at the same time not having to carry themselves or thinking that it is required that they be being anti-religious, anti-God, anti-church. "Every man has a dream". "Every man has an idea to cling to".
Tracy was a beast in this movie but what else would you expect? Honestly, I'm impressed by Gene Kelly. Straight drama wasn't his go-to and he was awesome in this.
To be fair, Kelly did seem made for this role since this reporter was a fast talking wise crack always seemingly putting on a show for those around him and with his musical background he was perfect as that type.
@@isaiahwilliams2642 I don't think the real Mencken had that type of boyish mischievous charm though of a Gene Kelly, but was more of a wry sarcastic character. So he's playing Mencken but with his own type of charisma.
This was such an important end, because some still think this was about evolution being right over creationism, but it wasn’t! It was about everyone’s right to believe what they want and to express it!
Fair enough. But we live in a real world as well as in the ideal world we try envision. 1) Should voters be able to impose, via a majority of votes cast, a code of morality upon others who do not share their beliefs? If the moral code was arrived at by rational means, I think one could argue, “Yes”. But if that moral code was based on an Iron age anthology, and on a faith that, finally, is not rational, what then? 2) Should parents be able to impose on their children irrational and ignorant ideas (young earth creationism)? If so ( I cannot see any way around it), should they be able to impose such teaching on the public school system?
@@oldpossum57 by calling creationism ignorant, you have also missed the point. Couldn’t they both be correct? But why does believing in one and not the other make someone ignorant?
@@seanmaher3518 There is a notion in physics that absolutely everything is absolutely determined from initial conditions of the universe: the movements of the (yet to form) planets, the conversation you and I are having here. I don’t like it, but there it is. I suppose you could insert an absolutely disinterested god in at that point, but I don’t see you gain anything, and you have an enormous philosophical apparatus + a god to carry about. What is the point? The creationist/deist/theist must deal with the problem of evil. The naturalist doesn’t. I see no way out of the problem of evil, and thus the conclusion that Epicurus arrived at.
"He weighs the volume in his hand; this one book has been the center of the whirlwind. Then Drummond notices the Bible, on the Judge's bench. He picks up the Bible in his other hand; he looks from one volume to the other, balancing them thoughtfully, as if his hands were scales. He half-smiles, half-shrugs. Then Drummond slaps the two books together and jams them in his briefcase, side by side. Slowly, he climbs to the street level and crosses the empty square." - _Inherit the Wind_ (1955)
This ending really stuck with me, and it's been more than 20 years since I've seen this film. The symbolism is pretty clear, signaling that you don't need to keep the sciences and religion apart. It's not one or the other, despite what some may think.
And in the movie, the visuals juxtapose even better. The new, white, hardback, hardly touched science book vs. the warn, old, bookmarked black Bible. The coat jacket, which keeps you warm, is black, compared to the all white hair and hat of Drummond. The judge's chair is in the direct center background, and the bronze blind justice sits opposite a window showing equal amounts of shadow and light. A lamp stands between blind justice AND the judge, signifying that light is both artificial and important to justice, and that the judge must play up to his namesake and judge how the light illuminates reality. Tracy becomes the new judge in lieu of one present, complete with a perfect mix of light and dark clothes, with two seemingly incongruent books on equal footing.
This movie was a masterpiece, the 99 version was a pale comparison and was one of those movies that should have never been made. Don't screw with perfection, when they do it is just stupid. Don't remake Citizen Kane, don't remake 12 angry men, don't remake Patton, Zulu, Song of Bernadette, or so many other movies that they keep trying to re-do because they cannot come up with an original idea.
I loved Tracy. I loved one anecdote from Robert Wagner about him. In the early 1950s, Fox was grooming Wagner as a star and teamed him with Tracy and Richard Widmark in a damn good Western called "Broken Lance." Once on the set, Wagner---in awe of Tracy only after a few days of shooting---asked Tracy the secret of good acting. Tracy looked at him and said, "Know your lines." Then, Tracy walked away. Wagner said he thought and thought about this and then it dawned on him. It wasn't just memorizing your lines, but it was KNOWING your lines. What motivates a character? What makes jim tick? Wagner never was great , but he was great in "Broken Lance."
When followers of faith believe that they have become the chosen protectors of that faith, they can loose grace, wisdom, and compassion.Then sadly replace them with finatisim, doctrine, and hate. We must remember that true faith is not just knowing the word but truly living it.
I have for sooooooo many years loved this movie...not just the performance of both Spence and the other great actors but the daringness of the promotion of the essence portrayed here..the right to think...it is now more important than ever.. yes Inherit the wind is a movie that everyone should watch for sure....and it has been for years......the right to think...
I first saw this film as a teen in the early 1970s. Something about it gripped me. I performed the famous cross-examination scene for a college class. And it set me on the road to understanding the futility of religion. Spencer Tracy’s character was right in praising the man, but criticizing his religion. Many great people have been lured into the traps, power, and dogma of religion. While this film may seem quaint today, its message is needed now, more than ever, to defeat the insidiousness of white nationalism and opus dea Catholicism.
One of Hollywood’s classic movies.. IMO, Spencer Tracy was/is probably the finest actor in the history of Hollywood. In this movie Fredrick March equals him all the way.
Although not in this scene, I'm surprised that no one else has mentioned Dick York (Bertram Cates) and his performance in this movie. He proved that he could go toe-to-toe with the mighty Spencer Tracy in a scene.
Kelly's character is the true opposite of March's in that while March's character has contempt for those who do not believe and much convert them, Kelly's has contempt for all those who do believe and only mock them. Neither are willing to give ground.
According to an interview that film historian and lecturer:Prof.Richard Brown did with Gene Kelly for American Movie Classics"Reflections Of The Silver Screen"..Gene got a long distance call from filmmaker Stan Kramer(while Gene was on vacation in Greece with one of his daughters and her friend)to audition for the role of"E.K.Hornbeck"for "InHeirit The Wind"..he told Stan that he didn't want to do it..that he was on vacation with his daughter and her friend in Greece.But? Stan finally got Gene to audition for the role..when he told him that he hired Spence(Tracy)and Freddie(March)to play "Henry Drummond & Mat Brady"for the film.
During the trial, we don’t know much of Drummond’s convictions, beyond swaying a verdict. The end is a stroke of genius. I like that he pensively puts the Bible on top of Darwin. Far from Hornbeck’s accusations, it’s not hypocrisy. I think it adds to the credibility of his defense (for freedom of thought). What good is any belief if we don’t find it willingly...
@Salnsd Yet Fauci is indeed the salesman for the Bill 'slip them a mickey' Gates' vaccine. His nonsense will end up burning millions alive and they will take it willingly because of misplaced trust in these pseudo men of science.
@Salnsd Indeed. Religious people love to brag about how many scientists were religious. It's cargo-cult logic. They fail to understand the underlying mechanisms behind not only science, but of their own religion.
Gene Kelly held his own performing besides those two 'caballos' (three, including the magnificent Florence Eldridge), loved their interactions, this movie is so great !!! And Leslie Uggams opening and closing the picture with those 1-derful a capella renditions was perfect !!!
This movie is a masterpiece. I love the ending where Spencer Tracy puts Charles Darwin's book, " The Origin of Species " together with the Bible. Somewhere, in between what those two books contain, there has got to be an answer !
This is how I like to believe in the world. Evolution is real as it has been observed and documented by great scientists as Darwin but I also believe some higher power set everything into motion for it work out as it does. It may not be God in the definition of Christians, but something that would be akin to a god.
@Epsensieg 18 It's not that hard to believe in a superior. Just look at the world around you. But, that's where it ends. When people try to push some white, male cult-hero (like Jewish Moses, Christian Jesus, Islam's Mohammed)...that's when I stop listening. In America, there's about 200 million non-thinkers who believe that there was a man who "died for their sins". Except...he never really died. He "rose from the dead" a few days later. So, millions of people across the globe are told to worship a guy...who gave up his weekend.
No. "The Origin of Species" is well supported demonstrable reality. While the Bible is a jumbled error-ridden mess of bronze-age fairy tales. The truth doesn't always lie between opposing sides.
I’ll never understand why they made a remake of this film years later starring George C. Scott and Jack Lemmon. It simply cannot compare to this 1960 version at all. Scott and Lemmon’s performances were, of course, completely competent and professional, but lacked the intensity and emotional weight that Tracy and March brought to the play. This is THE definitive film performance of all time of a great play that is every bit as relevant today as it was when it was released.
I thought the same thing. Definite slurring in that scene. Not sure though, what the cause might be other than drunk or medication reaction. Such a contrast to all the other scenes that were strong and clearly spoken?!?!?
@ANN FIESTA : Spencer Tracy was playing the part of a very weary, tired lawyer at the end of an unforgetable day. Notice he didn't stumble or stagger on his way out of the courtroom.
Tracy was unfortunately an alcoholic. I think he is definitely drunk in that scene...and yet he is still superb! It's not the only scene in the movie where his voice seems thick with drink. The man's presence in most movies lifts them all up a notch.
My favorite courtroom movie harry Morgan judge Claude akins preacher Noah berry father of stubbins boy Norman fell radio engineer. By the last line where he says you'll show up to my funeral isn't in the play. Ends with him saying atheist who believes in God then tells cates not to call him colonel anymore he's out and they forget books so Drummond picks them up and that's how play ends
Surge' has it wrong, in a big way, the film is about the Evolution of Man, of approaching Higher Ideals through Reason and Humanism. It is clearly not about tolerating or respecting bigoted imbecilic ideas which are harmful, but understanding the roots of hatred and bringing those unformed prejudices into the Light of Reason and true Justice.
No irony. Catholicism learned a few lessons from the debacle with Galileo. They never took an official position on evolution. They had enough struggle deal with.
Tracey called himself a devout Catholic, but he didn't practice it. He broke just about every tenet there was, frequently. His wife, on the other hand, refused to give him a divorce because she actually practiced her religion.
@@miguelservetus9534 It is. You do your best to follow the principals of the church and ask for forgiveness when you fall short, then try to mend your ways so you don't make the same mistakes. Tracey didn't even try to follow the tenets of the faith. He thumbed his nose at the church and did whatever he wanted. He was one of the best actors that ever lived, but he was not a devout Catholic.
@@stockvaluedotcom Not generally but he had his lapses. He apparently had one in the middle of filming "Bad Day at Black Rock" and the producers had to fly Katherine Hepburn in from Italy to talk him down.
A heavy drinker and a lot of health issues as a result. I'm still amazed how quickly Tracy began to age once he hit about 50 years old. Tracy was only 67 when he died in 1967, but he looked like he was in his mid 80s.
kevvoo1967 I disagree. This scene is brilliant because it is dialogue between two secular people who are fighting for the rights of a man accused of wrong doing by a bigot and a bigoted town who backed jailing an innocent man. Spencer Tracy sees that Brady was once a good man who lost himself in religious piety. Gene Kelley says this man did so much evil that to acknowledge any good the man ever did turns a blind eye to the lives destroyed by one man's self-righteous crusade. This is a common argument my fellow atheists have amongst ourselves. It is also why this movie is a true classic.
+kevvoo1967 It is to point out the real evil; one who has no belief, no value, no feeling, the media out for a good story to sell papers and what ever else..
+Tom Tilley Such idealists seemed so pretentious to me. Talking to the one who lacks ideals and faith as alone and unloved, then speaking of pity as if the person speaking actually cares. Such people speak as if they are in better or elevated condition for their ideals when they may be worse off. Only sentimentality and haphazard beliefs providing comfort in an ambivalent setting.
Richard Conner even in real life I think Tracy knew the value of science, and probably questioned his beliefs in this movie, but not just religious beliefs, but common sense is in there too
Antithesis? Not at all. Throughout the movie, Henry Drummond is accused both of being an agnostic and an atheist, but Drummond himself never said what he was and never took any kind of position regarding religious faith one way or the other. The issue simply wasn't important to his purpose in taking the case. That he defended evolution and the right to think made him no more irreligious than his final statement about Brady made him religious.
Because he recalls Brady's biblical quote verbatim, demonstrating complete familiarity with it, the type that only comes with reading it often. So, despite defending Cates, he is someone who is a Christian. To Hornbeck, a man who believes in a black and white world, one of absolute right and wrong, a nuanced position stinks of hypocrisy. I think this is what is meant by the line.
Hornbeck assumes throughout that because Drummond is defending atheistic teaching, which is contrary to the Bible, that he must also be an atheist himself. To a man like Hornbeck, who is as much of an absolutist as Brady, Drummond's nuanced position, in which he is able to see both positives and negatives in Brady is a sign of hypocrisy. To him, Brady is the enemy, so for Drummond to say that Brady once had great qualities, desired to do good but succumbed to his own fallability, Hornbeck is incapable of accepting that. This accusation by Hornbeck follows directly on from his surprise that Drummond has perfect recall of the biblical quote uttered by Brady.
The moment which kinda ruined the scene to me is at 5:24 where Tracy turned slightly to the right while walking to avoid go against the camera. Sure the entrance to the courtroom is a straight corridor. I don't know why it wasn't getting the scissor in editing room? A minor flaw in otherwise an outstanding movie
Not a flaw IMO. Seems like a reasonable and practical way to seamlessly transition from the shot of Tracy leaving the courtroom to the shot of the empty courtroom in a single uninterrupted take, and then fade to black.
'Why should we cry for him? Because hes dead?' Shocking to hear a person say that. More shocking that you hear it regularly these days, even just here on youtube.
Brady didn't get lost because he looked for a god or gods too far up or whatever. He got lost because he tried to reignite his near-dead career upon a mountain of ignorance, stupidity, bigotry and hatred. Win or lose, that's all he's going to be remembered for. If Brady didn't have the political savvy to recognize that when he was alive, it's no wonder he failed to win the presidency 3 times. If Hornbeck is erasing Brady's entire life, Brady gave him a lot of help there.
@@DrownedInExile, Again, pejoratives don't win you a debate. Ad hominem attacks are simply not winning. Argumentum ad baculum is simply immoral, i.e. politics is immoral; it is violence!
Great ending. Such as Gene Kelly's character, "Even if I know I'm doomed, I have the right to live by my own my monstrosity and defend my essence through thick and thin....Wait, people would say that the executioners are long gone and the game's up. True, but the reasons they came in the first place still remain. Don't suppose I don't remember all the glances of hot girls since 1998, or how subtly people have attacked me since time immemorial, or the probable shadowy government long term conspiracy: was my birth in 1986 pre-ordained or at least the early childhood trauma I still can't remember that propeled the entity to blind and 'isolate' me for life?". So it goes🙃😆😅🤔😥
Cynicism is useful, powerful, vital... but it is not food. You can value atheism without becoming a religious bigot. You can be religious without become a bigoted zealot. I've always loved the message, science is fact and truth, but it is not club to beat people with. The bible and other spiritual tomes contain ancient spirituality and powerful timeless concepts but they cannot be your governing principles alone. We don't have to hate the former to understand and embrace the later.
Every acting class should watch this movie. Tracy once said, "Don't act, just behave"
EVERY - history MAJOR / - \ SEPERATION of CHURCH 'n' STATE .....needs too SEE THIS---! THE SCOPES - MONKEY TRIAL -- 1899. CREATION / - \ EVOLUTION! THE COURTHOUSE was filled too overflowing;.....it was so HOT,...the TRIAL was held OUTDOORS on the COURTHOUSE LAWN! THIS teacher WAS NOT teaching DARWIN,.... > he < was presenting;.... [ opening STUDENTS too theTHEROY of EVOLUTION! check it out----- BUCKLE - up,....2016 piecea[t]RRUMMPP LLC/INC campaign ^^^^^ ** ^^^^^ -- ( fast forward ) -- kellyanne conway's ____ BOLLING GREEN, KENTUCKY,...MASSACRE!
63 years later, the symbolism, Bible vs Science book, faith vs knowledge, sentimentalism vs cynicism, all balanced in the closing shot of a hall of justice. Relevant as ever especially in the realm of our current media landscape. Marvelous performances by all.
If naturalistic materialism were true, then there would be no science, no objective knowledge nor justice.
"Fides et Ratio" - JPII
It takes an awful lot of faith to believe in evolutionism that's for sure it simply has no facts backing it up .
The mastery of this scene is that both men are right. They seem to be at odds, but both couldn’t be closer to the truth. You will never see a film this well written any more.
The message of the film is clearly to think for yourself, and to respect differences of opinion. It's rare to see that in a film.
It's a great message, and one that's never been more relevant with how the internet likes to make it illegal to not have the popular opinion.
Too bad you can’t do that today
But not all opinions are worth respecting.
@@DrownedInExile No. Conservatives and the rest of the political right can suck a fat one.
The real message of the film is to not at all be faithful to the historical facts.
Powerful ending. I also respect Gene Kelly for diving into such a role. Not only a great dancer.
@@jeffryhammel3035 his character was based on H L Mencken and Gene Kelly was great in the movie!!
You beat me to it. Fabulous acting performance…for a dancer. IDK if Kelly ever did serious stage performances, but he could have.
@Nicksonian Did you notice that so many of the great singers and dancers became very good in the movies? Sinatra, Crosby, and Kelly just come to mind. We've so many prolific geniuses from the past into the present or future. For example, a totally funny Robin Williams turned out to be an actor where millions of us could relate to. Nice to get comments from folks who know about history and the people who helped make the positive vibes.
@@michaelryan2416Thank you. I understand the names you mentioned. It took a comment to make me realize it.
@@jeffryhammel3035 Sinatra is a wonder. Growing up in the 1960s and 70s I didn’t think much of Sinatra, but then I learned about jazz and a wider range of music and have come to love his singing. And then there’s his acting. His work in The Manchurian Candidate should have earned him an Oscar nomination. And there’s his other films like From Here to Eternity. Bing Crosby may not have had the acting range of Sinatra, but he was the most popular entertainer in the U.S. for about a decade. Of course, the thing Kelly had was that not only could he sing and act, but damn he could dance. Fred Astaire had grace and class, while Kelly was powerful and inventive. And Astaire was another all-around talent, although he wasn’t quite the actor the others were.
Gene Kelly is so overlooked in this movie. Granted, Tracy and Marsh own this movie, but Kelly nails his support role.
Yeah, this was perhaps his greatest performance, and I think his last great film. I love the look on his face while Tracy is berating him-he's really shook by it. And then he does his customary smirk and gives a zinger back. This is still my favorite film, after all these years.
@@Shadowman4710 When I shared this clip, I mentioned that I believe it's quite possible that his tears were real. I feel the same about Frank Sinatra's acting skills, which I treasure more than his well deserved fame as a singer and entertainer.
Kelly's was such a great dancer, and athlete it overshadowed what a good actor he was.
How I miss the time when words had meaning and there were men who understood how powerful they could be. Almost every sentence in this scene could be emblazoned on a monument.
Tracy towers as perhaps the greatest actor in Hollywood history. The outstanding screenplay and timing of dialogue throughout the movie, with Kelly and March performing superbly in supporting roles, make this movie and especially this ending among the finest one will see on screen. How this movie did not win the Oscar is criminal.
Criminal indeed...such a very good movie....
The Oscars have always been politically motivated.
I didn't like the constant hymn singing during the first part of the movie. No matter the movie I watch it if Tracy is in it. I watch movies for the story not the star. I make an exception for Tracy. One of Tracy's best and based on a true situation. That's the other reason this is such a great movie.
It wasn't even nominated for best picture. The Apartment won. Not a bad movie, but it pales next to this. ShannonFreng was correct. There has always been politics in Hollywood. This came out during the Red Scare and blacklist era when we were all looking for communists under our beds. The pendulum has now swung the other way, but the politics are still there. Note how Shakespeare in Love actually beat Saving Private Ryan.
@@jec1ny Excellent comment.
My favorite Gene Kelly role, the look on his face as Tracy exposes his empty soul, great acting by the 3 main characters and great writing.
One of the greatest movies ever made with a wonderful cast and a topic still in controversy today
Thinking a lot about this movie in our current pandemic. He that troubleth his own house shall Inherit the Wind.
@@VtRD Yeah, China.
Yes, and sadly, manmade political government is still secular. We should not have manmade political government in tyrannical control of education. So, always identify the root cause of a defect or failure and avoid wasting time on symptoms.
@@WJack97224 A secular government with a godless constitution is the best chance for liberty and prosperity for all.
@@DrownedInExile, Well of course that is your opinion however the history of the world teaches just the opposite. Manmade political governments have committed the atrocity of wars of mass murder/slaughter, the ruination and pain of economic recessions, the ruination and pain from the debauchery of the money via inflation/legalized counterfeiting, the ruination of morality and wellbeing via the welfare state that is based on the immorality of looting A to satisfy B/stealing and the imposition of stinkin' naggar slave debt slavery via the massive borrowing by the politicians and setting up the debt bomb from hell on future generations.
While great acting is a given from Tracy, I have to say that Kelly gave one of his best performances as a serious, dramatic actor in this film--while he was always a great song-and-dance performer
Very well-said, Tim. Gene Kelly held his own splendidly!
Didnt Kelly also direct the film?
@@robertlight5227 Stanley Kramer was the director. His son, Kosmo, went on to gain fame and fortune as Jerry's Seinfeld's neighbor.
"You never pushed a noun against a verb unless it was to blow something up" I have to remember to use that sometime.
I am sure we will both find the appropriate time to use that one... :)
I have used this line in many a debate with an Evangelical .... "The Bible is a Book,it's a Good Book .... But it is Not the Only Book!"
Don't memorize it for later verbatim use. Instead, learn the meaning of it then use your own creativity in expressing the meaning.
I've never seen such pure cinema...Spencer Tracy, incredible.
this scene really pulled the whole film together.
"Who else would defend my right to be lonely?" I love that.
Me too.
"Who else would defend my right to be lonely" is my favorite closing line of any film.
Henry Drummond (Spencer Tracy): I cannot imagine a world without Matthew Harrison Brady.
E.K. Hornbeck (Gene Kelly): Get me the Baltimore Herald, please.
Drummond: What did he die of? Did they say?
Hornbeck: He died of a busted belly.
Drummond: There was once greatness in the man.
Hornbeck: Can I quote you in the obituary?
Drummond: Write anything you damn-write anything you please.
Hornbeck: How do you write an obituary for a man who’s been dead thirty years? Operator? Say, what’d he say to the minister? You know, that fits. He delivered his own obituary. Where’d you put that-oh, there it is. His book! It was Proverbs, wasn’t it?
Drummond: “He that troubleth his own house shall inherit the wind: and the fool shall be servant to the wise in heart.”
Hornbeck: Wow. Wow, Col. Drummond, we’re growing an odd crop of agnostics this year.
Drummond: You know, Hornbeck, I’m getting damn sick of you.
Hornbeck: Why?
Drummond: You never push a noun against a verb except to blow up something.
Hornbeck: You know, that’s a typical lawyer’s trick-accusing the accuser.
Drummond: What am I accused of?
Hornbeck: Contempt of conscience. Sentimentality in the first degree.
Drummond: Why-because I refuse to erase a man’s lifetime?
Hornbeck: No. Because you know what I thought of him, and I know what you thought, so let’s leave the lamentations to the illiterate. What is this-“Be Kind to Bigots Week?” Why should we weep for him? ‘Cause he’s dead! Besides, he cried enough for himself during his lifetime. The National Tearduct from Weeping Water, Nebraska. Oh ho, he flooded the nation like a one-man Mississippi. You know what he was, that bible-beating bunko artist!
Drummond: A giant once lived in that body. But Matt Brady got lost because he looked for God too high up and too far away.
Hornbeck: You hypocrite. You fraud. The atheist who believes in God. You’re just as religious as he was.
Drummond: Everything is grist for your mill-isn’t it? Well, go ahead, grind it up: Brady’s past, Cates’s future. My God. Don’t you understand the meaning of what happened here today?
Hornbeck: What happened here today has no meaning.
Drummond: You have no meaning; you’re like a ghost pointing an empty sleeve and smirking at everything that people feel or want or struggle for. I pity you.
Hornbeck: You pity me?
Drummond: Isn’t there anything? Wha-what touches you? What warms you? Every man has a dream. What do you dream about, what do you need? You don’t need anything, do you? People, love. An idea, just to cling to. You poor slob. You’re all alone. When you go to your grave, there won’t be anyone to pull the grass up over your head. Nobody to mourn you, nobody to give a damn. You’re all alone.
Hornbeck: You’re wrong, Henry. You’ll be there. You’re the type. Who else would defend my right to be lonely?
Bret Gammons yeah, we watched it
It's terrible when time moves on isn't it. A person is famous even important and people hear and like what he has to say. Then then the times change he becomes a relic and is forgotten. Matthew Harrison Brady had one last bid for fame and chasing after it killed him. Would anybody remember him and anything that he accomplished?
@@kurtbaumann7686 I don't think it would have mattered whether Brady lived or died. This mountain of bigotry, divisiveness, stupidity and ignorance he helped spawn is all he'd ever be remembered for. If he didn't have the political savvy to recognize that, no wonder he failed to win the presidency 3 times.
Thanks for the transcription. I wish Henry Drummond could have defended the right of the Southern States to secede from the Union before the Civil War.
@@DrownedInExile The characterization in the movie of William Jennings Bryan is totally preposterous and precisely designed to inspire the attitude that you have expressed.
originally..Gene didn't want to do the film..he was spending time with his daughter in Greece..but..when Stan Kramer(The film's producer and director)told him that Spece Tracy and Freddie March were going to portray the lead characters:"Henry Drummound & Mat Brady"? Gene..said to Stan on the phone.."I'm flying out tomorrow.."and he did and he did a brilliant performance as"E.K.Hornbeck".
I've seen plenty of films where a great actor (or two in this case) can bring a powerful performance out of someone not known for being a great actor. Cases in point: The Defiant Ones, Pressure Point, The Devil's Advocate.
What a man.
He delivered this brilliant performance a year before Judgment at Nuremberg.
Another film that makes you think clearly and leaves you gasping for breath
@CD_Promo, interesting point about Judgment at Nuremberg. The German Judges who were on trial, amoungst others, claimed in their defenses that they were only following orders. The court said that may be but you are still expected to know the difference between right and wrong. This was later called "The Nuremberg Defense" and it did not "wash." Today bureaucrats still gravitate to the "Nuremberg Defense" when they harm others and the gd courts in some cases are allowing it as a defense. Amerika is in the toilet; manmade political government is the bane and pain of mankind; politics is violence; it is not Christian; it is diabolical rot.
After delivering his last line ("Who else would defend my right to be lonely?"), I half-expected Gene Kelly to go dancing lightly out of the courtroom.
We watched this movie in my 9th grade history class, and I remember being so shocked at the plot twist of him picking up both books at the very end. That ending has stuck with me for years and I just think of it sometimes. I'll definitely watch the movie again someday.
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Fredric March took a character that might have been seen as a complete buffoon and imparted a human element that allowed viewers to feel empathy for him. He was the one that should have been nominated, and won, the academy award.
Frederic March and Spencer Tracy both deserved the Academy Award for their incredible performances in this fantastic film !!!!!
He was amazing in his role...they both were but only one was honored...but we know the truth don't we? It counts for something?
I agree
Tracy's performance was towering, but it's hard to argue vs. Frederic March. Two of the greatest actors in the history of motion pictures, if it were possible Tracy and March should have shared the Best Actor Oscar--and Gene Kelly should have gotten Best Supporting Actor award. He proved that he was far, far more than a singer and dancer. Three brilliant performances.
Spencer tracy is the best in every film he acts in
How true.
All great performances but no one, including Tracy himself, could have played the role of Brady with the level of humanity that March provided. What could have been just a clown was turned into a flawed but sympathetic character. March's wife gave a similar stellar performance as his on screen wife. Two of the best film performances ever given.
Spencer Tracy, Frederick March, Gene Kelly. All three delivered superb performances. A dream cast if there ever was one.
Florence Eldridge
I just came here from watching this film for the first time since high school. (I couldn’t appreciate it - or these masterful performances - back then.) I’m so glad someone uploaded this final scene - which I have now added to my favorite videos.
I read raves about Tracy and March, and I thoroughly expected great performances from them (which, of course, they delivered) - but no mentions of Kelly, so I wasn’t sure what to expect.
I shouldn’t have wondered. He blew me away. His sarcastic, smart aleck-y lines were delivered deliciously with his characteristic charm - but what impressed me most were the moments in which he wasn’t talking. Watching Fredric March at the dinner table, listening and reacting in the courtroom - and especially his close-up in this magnificent final scene. He said so much, without uttering a word.
He really should be lauded alongside March and Tracy. His performance was just as impactful and just as memorable (and it’s my personal favorite of the three).
You didn't happen to have had a certain tall, blond guy for your high school biology teacher?
Gene Kelly was rather nervous doing this film. Especially this scene, alone with Tracy.
"I'm a hoofer, swapping dialogue with an actor's actor. I talked to him about my misgivings. He listened, telling me every role builds actor's abilities. I had no illusions about myself. I put the straw hat on, cocked at a dancer's angle, to prove it."
Great conclusion to a great film delivered by two greats.
“You never pushed a noun against a verb except to blow up something.” Journalism never changes...
Tracy was a quite the actor. I like this scene; Drummond schools Hornbeck that a person can be a non-believer while at the same time not having to carry themselves or thinking that it is required that they be being anti-religious, anti-God, anti-church. "Every man has a dream". "Every man has an idea to cling to".
Tracy was a beast in this movie but what else would you expect? Honestly, I'm impressed by Gene Kelly. Straight drama wasn't his go-to and he was awesome in this.
He was brilliant.
This film should have won Best Picture of 1960 instead they gave it to The Apartment! This film was much better !!!!!
To be fair, Kelly did seem made for this role since this reporter was a fast talking wise crack always seemingly putting on a show for those around him and with his musical background he was perfect as that type.
@@isaiahwilliams2642 I don't think the real Mencken had that type of boyish mischievous charm though of a Gene Kelly, but was more of a wry sarcastic character. So he's playing Mencken but with his own type of charisma.
This was the scene that convinced me Kelly could ACT!
This was such an important end, because some still think this was about evolution being right over creationism, but it wasn’t! It was about everyone’s right to believe what they want and to express it!
Fair enough. But we live in a real world as well as in the ideal world we try envision.
1) Should voters be able to impose, via a majority of votes cast, a code of morality upon others who do not share their beliefs? If the moral code was arrived at by rational means, I think one could argue, “Yes”. But if that moral code was based on an Iron age anthology, and on a faith that, finally, is not rational, what then?
2) Should parents be able to impose on their children irrational and ignorant ideas (young earth creationism)? If so ( I cannot see any way around it), should they be able to impose such teaching on the public school system?
@@oldpossum57 by calling creationism ignorant, you have also missed the point. Couldn’t they both be correct? But why does believing in one and not the other make someone ignorant?
@@seanmaher3518 There is a notion in physics that absolutely everything is absolutely determined from initial conditions of the universe: the movements of the (yet to form) planets, the conversation you and I are having here. I don’t like it, but there it is. I suppose you could insert an absolutely disinterested god in at that point, but I don’t see you gain anything, and you have an enormous philosophical apparatus + a god to carry about. What is the point?
The creationist/deist/theist must deal with the problem of evil. The naturalist doesn’t. I see no way out of the problem of evil, and thus the conclusion that Epicurus arrived at.
Freedom requires choice. Choice requires alternatives@@oldpossum57
Again you miss the point presented in the clip. You're free to be a naturalist or whatever. You're are free to THINK.
Black and white adds gravitas to an already powerful movie.
"He weighs the volume in his hand; this one book has been the center of the whirlwind. Then Drummond notices the Bible, on the Judge's bench. He picks up the Bible in his other hand; he looks from one volume to the other, balancing them thoughtfully, as if his hands were scales. He half-smiles, half-shrugs. Then Drummond slaps the two books together and jams them in his briefcase, side by side. Slowly, he climbs to the street level and crosses the empty square." - _Inherit the Wind_ (1955)
This ending really stuck with me, and it's been more than 20 years since I've seen this film. The symbolism is pretty clear, signaling that you don't need to keep the sciences and religion apart. It's not one or the other, despite what some may think.
And in the movie, the visuals juxtapose even better. The new, white, hardback, hardly touched science book vs. the warn, old, bookmarked black Bible. The coat jacket, which keeps you warm, is black, compared to the all white hair and hat of Drummond. The judge's chair is in the direct center background, and the bronze blind justice sits opposite a window showing equal amounts of shadow and light. A lamp stands between blind justice AND the judge, signifying that light is both artificial and important to justice, and that the judge must play up to his namesake and judge how the light illuminates reality. Tracy becomes the new judge in lieu of one present, complete with a perfect mix of light and dark clothes, with two seemingly incongruent books on equal footing.
Spencer Tracy was a giant!
not even close
This movie was a masterpiece, the 99 version was a pale comparison and was one of those movies that should have never been made. Don't screw with perfection, when they do it is just stupid. Don't remake Citizen Kane, don't remake 12 angry men, don't remake Patton, Zulu, Song of Bernadette, or so many other movies that they keep trying to re-do because they cannot come up with an original idea.
Stephen Adams I saw that movie and it was piece of crap this movie with Spencer Tracy and Frederick March was so much better
I loved Tracy. I loved one anecdote from Robert Wagner about him. In the early 1950s, Fox was grooming Wagner as a star and teamed him with Tracy and Richard Widmark in a damn good Western called "Broken Lance." Once on the set, Wagner---in awe of Tracy only after a few days of shooting---asked Tracy the secret of good acting. Tracy looked at him and said, "Know your lines." Then, Tracy walked away. Wagner said he thought and thought about this and then it dawned on him. It wasn't just memorizing your lines, but it was KNOWING your lines. What motivates a character? What makes jim tick? Wagner never was great , but he was great in "Broken Lance."
One of the greatest male actors of the 20th century !!!!!
What a powerful scene...tough to upstage old Spencer though...the force of his personality was great...
When followers of faith believe that they have become the chosen protectors of that faith, they can loose grace, wisdom, and compassion.Then sadly replace them with finatisim, doctrine, and hate. We must remember that true faith is not just knowing the word but truly living it.
Amen to that !
I have for sooooooo many years loved this movie...not just the performance of both Spence and the other great actors but the daringness of the promotion of the essence portrayed here..the right to think...it is now more important than ever.. yes Inherit the wind is a movie that everyone should watch for sure....and it has been for years......the right to think...
Brilliant movie and this scene in particular!
Where oh where has great film making gone.
Mostly into television...
We still have great filmmaking. It’s just different 60 years later.
Like the writers😊 of Sinatra's great songs; they don't make 'em any more...
I first saw this film as a teen in the early 1970s. Something about it gripped me. I performed the famous cross-examination scene for a college class. And it set me on the road to understanding the futility of religion. Spencer Tracy’s character was right in praising the man, but criticizing his religion. Many great people have been lured into the traps, power, and dogma of religion. While this film may seem quaint today, its message is needed now, more than ever, to defeat the insidiousness of white nationalism and opus dea Catholicism.
One of Hollywood’s classic movies.. IMO, Spencer Tracy was/is probably the finest actor in the history of Hollywood. In this movie Fredrick March equals him all the way.
Although not in this scene, I'm surprised that no one else has mentioned Dick York (Bertram Cates) and his performance in this movie. He proved that he could go toe-to-toe with the mighty Spencer Tracy in a scene.
Absolutely wonderful performance by him. He is sadly overlooked but only because of the shadows cast by those two giants.
This was the best male actor ever to live
Gene Kelly held his own in this
The moment when a movie's clown character seems ready to cry. And it isn't done in a stupid or shallow way.
For a second there I thought Gene was going to dance out of the courtroom!😁
GK took this part so he could act with Tracy and March. He loved the play. Based on the true story...read the play.
Kelly's character is the true opposite of March's in that while March's character has contempt for those who do not believe and much convert them, Kelly's has contempt for all those who do believe and only mock them. Neither are willing to give ground.
What a great actor. There were giants in those days, instead of the one dimensional pretty boys of today.
One of the great endings in motion picture history.
perfect scene, perfect dialog.
Oof. Gene Kelly was only 12 years younger than Spencer Tracy.
According to an interview that film historian and lecturer:Prof.Richard Brown did with Gene Kelly for American Movie Classics"Reflections Of The Silver Screen"..Gene got a long distance call from filmmaker Stan Kramer(while Gene was on vacation in Greece with one of his daughters and her friend)to audition for the role of"E.K.Hornbeck"for "InHeirit The Wind"..he told Stan that he didn't want to do it..that he was on vacation with his daughter and her friend in Greece.But? Stan finally got Gene to audition for the role..when he told him that he hired Spence(Tracy)and Freddie(March)to play "Henry Drummond & Mat Brady"for the film.
What great screenwriting, and who better to deliver it.
Gene Kelly should have gotten an Oscar nomination for Best Supporting Actor in this film. He was superb.
During the trial, we don’t know much of Drummond’s convictions, beyond swaying a verdict. The end is a stroke of genius. I like that he pensively puts the Bible on top of Darwin. Far from Hornbeck’s accusations, it’s not hypocrisy. I think it adds to the credibility of his defense (for freedom of thought). What good is any belief if we don’t find it willingly...
@Salnsd Yet Fauci is indeed the salesman for the Bill 'slip them a mickey' Gates' vaccine. His nonsense will end up burning millions alive and they will take it willingly because of misplaced trust in these pseudo men of science.
@Salnsd Indeed. Religious people love to brag about how many scientists were religious. It's cargo-cult logic. They fail to understand the underlying mechanisms behind not only science, but of their own religion.
@@johnnypastrana6727 Total nonsense.
@@DrownedInExileEvolutionism is certainly not based on any science just philosophy .
@@SuperPatrick777 You're completely wrong, but feel free to keep believing that if you like. Changes nothing.
Gene Kelly held his own performing besides those two 'caballos' (three, including the magnificent Florence Eldridge), loved their interactions, this movie is so great !!! And Leslie Uggams opening and closing the picture with those 1-derful a capella renditions was perfect !!!
what a deep and amazing dialogue. They don’t make movies like this anymore🤔
It says a lot that Gene Kelly holds his own alongside Tracy and March.
I also give a lot of credit to Dick York, who was mostly known for "Bewitched." This film is loaded with great character actors.
@@Shadowman4710 As I’m sure you know, this was a couple of years before Bewitched.
@@colinbaker3916 Yes but that's the role he's mostly known for.
I love courtroom dramas
Jerome Lawrence was a personal friend of mine. A truly nice person.
This movie is a masterpiece. I love the ending where Spencer Tracy puts Charles Darwin's book, " The Origin of Species " together with the Bible. Somewhere, in between what those two books contain, there has got to be an answer !
This is how I like to believe in the world. Evolution is real as it has been observed and documented by great scientists as Darwin but I also believe some higher power set everything into motion for it work out as it does. It may not be God in the definition of Christians, but something that would be akin to a god.
@Epsensieg 18 It's not that hard to believe in a superior. Just look at the world around you. But, that's where it ends. When people try to push some white, male cult-hero (like Jewish Moses, Christian Jesus, Islam's Mohammed)...that's when I stop listening.
In America, there's about 200 million non-thinkers who believe that there was a man who "died for their sins". Except...he never really died. He "rose from the dead" a few days later. So, millions of people across the globe are told to worship a guy...who gave up his weekend.
My take was a bit different, he was like 'which book should go on top'...he chose the bible.
Somewhere there has to be a balance.
No. "The Origin of Species" is well supported demonstrable reality. While the Bible is a jumbled error-ridden mess of bronze-age fairy tales. The truth doesn't always lie between opposing sides.
Seeing this reminded me of a video here on UA-cam, Evolution by the channel breaking in the habit
It’s frightening how drummond’s speech applies to today’s society more than ever.
Gene Kelley going toe to toe with two acting giants! Who would of thought?
"But Mathew Brady got lost because he looked for God too high up and too far away", just great writing
I’ll never understand why they made a remake of this film years later starring George C. Scott and Jack Lemmon. It simply cannot compare to this 1960 version at all. Scott and Lemmon’s performances were, of course, completely competent and professional, but lacked the intensity and emotional weight that Tracy and March brought to the play. This is THE definitive film performance of all time of a great play that is every bit as relevant today as it was when it was released.
i looooooove this ending
Great movie
Some critics hated Kelly in this role, but he did a pretty good job.
Brilliant all around.
What a film!
Love, love, love Spencer Tracy. Was he drunk in this final scene? Slurring his speech? Anyone else think so? RIP, Spense
He never drank on set. Paul Newman on the other hand early in his career went through a case of beer a day.
I thought the same thing. Definite slurring in that scene. Not sure though, what the cause might be other than drunk or medication reaction. Such a contrast to all the other scenes that were strong and clearly spoken?!?!?
@ANN FIESTA : Spencer Tracy was playing the part of a very weary, tired lawyer at the end of an unforgetable day. Notice he didn't stumble or stagger on his way out of the courtroom.
Tracy was unfortunately an alcoholic. I think he is definitely drunk in that scene...and yet he is still superb! It's not the only scene in the movie where his voice seems thick with drink. The man's presence in most movies lifts them all up a notch.
He looks more depressed than drunk, honestly. And apparently he suffered from some type of depression.
The Age of Gold.....BRAVI TUTTI from Acapulco!
Good movie
It struck me when Spencer put that hat on who he was modeling . It wasn't Clarence Darrow; it was his late great friend, Will Rogers.
My favorite courtroom movie harry Morgan judge Claude akins preacher Noah berry father of stubbins boy Norman fell radio engineer. By the last line where he says you'll show up to my funeral isn't in the play. Ends with him saying atheist who believes in God then tells cates not to call him colonel anymore he's out and they forget books so Drummond picks them up and that's how play ends
Both characters had very valid points in their debate, I didn't see either one as being right or wrong.
It is unfortunate that such dialogue is so rare.
Surge' has it wrong, in a big way, the film is about the Evolution of Man, of approaching Higher Ideals through Reason and Humanism. It is clearly not about tolerating or respecting bigoted imbecilic ideas which are harmful, but understanding the roots of hatred and bringing those unformed prejudices into the Light of Reason and true Justice.
Calm down Hornbeck.
Read “ Summer of the Gods “. The true story of the Scopes Trial. This movie was riveting but it was a one sided and slanted story of the real event
True .
I would hardly call Fredric March "supporting" here; rather it's Kelly who's supporting the two marvelous leads.
Well said.
People today are like Hornbeck
true. everyone is cynical these days.
Indigo Sunset true, and they’re know -it all! But they’re not smarter than anyone
the irony is that Tracy was a Devout Catholic.
No irony. Catholicism learned a few lessons from the debacle with Galileo.
They never took an official position on evolution.
They had enough struggle deal with.
@@miguelservetus9534Evolutionism is not hard to deal with .
Tracey called himself a devout Catholic, but he didn't practice it. He broke just about every tenet there was, frequently. His wife, on the other hand, refused to give him a divorce because she actually practiced her religion.
@@Mybpeterson I’m told that Catholicism is for sinners too.
@@miguelservetus9534 It is. You do your best to follow the principals of the church and ask for forgiveness when you fall short, then try to mend your ways so you don't make the same mistakes. Tracey didn't even try to follow the tenets of the faith. He thumbed his nose at the church and did whatever he wanted. He was one of the best actors that ever lived, but he was not a devout Catholic.
In reality William Jennings Bryan did not die in the courtroom. Bryan passed away five days later.
It's like this scene was written with Ricky Gervais in mind.
Sadly the society we live in now is full of Hornbecks
Spencer Tracy always looked much older than he actually was. He was 60 in 1960, right?
Tracy was a very heavy drinker. He did not drink while he was working, though.
@@stockvaluedotcom Not generally but he had his lapses. He apparently had one in the middle of filming "Bad Day at Black Rock" and the producers had to fly Katherine Hepburn in from Italy to talk him down.
I'm sure the white hair didn't help him look younger, either.
A heavy drinker and a lot of health issues as a result. I'm still amazed how quickly Tracy began to age once he hit about 50 years old. Tracy was only 67 when he died in 1967, but he looked like he was in his mid 80s.
I'm not sure I can recall a better last scene in any movie I've seen.
Tracy's character could disagree with his friend but not lose his respect for him. That's what I took away from this scene.
It seems at the end there is an effort to support both teams. Trying to please both parties. I personally don't understand the ignorance of fact.
kevvoo1967 the same with me that feeling
kevvoo1967 I disagree. This scene is brilliant because it is dialogue between two secular people who are fighting for the rights of a man accused of wrong doing by a bigot and a bigoted town who backed jailing an innocent man. Spencer Tracy sees that Brady was once a good man who lost himself in religious piety. Gene Kelley says this man did so much evil that to acknowledge any good the man ever did turns a blind eye to the lives destroyed by one man's self-righteous crusade. This is a common argument my fellow atheists have amongst ourselves. It is also why this movie is a true classic.
+kevvoo1967 I personally don't understand ignorance of nuance.
+kevvoo1967 It is to point out the real evil; one who has no belief, no value, no feeling, the media out for a good story to sell papers and what ever else..
+Tom Tilley Such idealists seemed so pretentious to me. Talking to the one who lacks ideals and faith as alone and unloved, then speaking of pity as if the person speaking actually cares. Such people speak as if they are in better or elevated condition for their ideals when they may be worse off. Only sentimentality and haphazard beliefs providing comfort in an ambivalent setting.
For a devout Catholic like Tracy, this role was the antithesis of his own beliefs.
no it was not if you knew anything about catholicism you'd know it accepts evolution
absolutely not.
Beliefs my ass... he was a serial adulterer.
Richard Conner even in real life I think Tracy knew the value of science, and probably questioned his beliefs in this movie, but not just religious beliefs, but common sense is in there too
Antithesis? Not at all. Throughout the movie, Henry Drummond is accused both of being an agnostic and an atheist, but Drummond himself never said what he was and never took any kind of position regarding religious faith one way or the other. The issue simply wasn't important to his purpose in taking the case. That he defended evolution and the right to think made him no more irreligious than his final statement about Brady made him religious.
2:20 I've never understood that. What makes Tracy's character "The Atheist Who Believes In God"?
Because he recalls Brady's biblical quote verbatim, demonstrating complete familiarity with it, the type that only comes with reading it often. So, despite defending Cates, he is someone who is a Christian. To Hornbeck, a man who believes in a black and white world, one of absolute right and wrong, a nuanced position stinks of hypocrisy. I think this is what is meant by the line.
Hornbeck assumes throughout that because Drummond is defending atheistic teaching, which is contrary to the Bible, that he must also be an atheist himself. To a man like Hornbeck, who is as much of an absolutist as Brady, Drummond's nuanced position, in which he is able to see both positives and negatives in Brady is a sign of hypocrisy. To him, Brady is the enemy, so for Drummond to say that Brady once had great qualities, desired to do good but succumbed to his own fallability, Hornbeck is incapable of accepting that. This accusation by Hornbeck follows directly on from his surprise that Drummond has perfect recall of the biblical quote uttered by Brady.
The moment which kinda ruined the scene to me is at 5:24 where Tracy turned slightly to the right while walking to avoid go against the camera. Sure the entrance to the courtroom is a straight corridor. I don't know why it wasn't getting the scissor in editing room? A minor flaw in otherwise an outstanding movie
Not a flaw IMO. Seems like a reasonable and practical way to seamlessly transition from the shot of Tracy leaving the courtroom to the shot of the empty courtroom in a single uninterrupted take, and then fade to black.
'Why should we cry for him? Because hes dead?'
Shocking to hear a person say that. More shocking that you hear it regularly these days, even just here on youtube.
If you hear it regularly, how on Earth is it shocking?
@@EmptyMan000 because 'shocking' isnt the same as 'surprising'.
A young Leslie Uggams who sings the opening & closing.
Every time the Kraken comes with its stupid attemps to make my think I'm losing it, the Hornbeck in me gets more stubborn
Brady didn't get lost because he looked for a god or gods too far up or whatever. He got lost because he tried to reignite his near-dead career upon a mountain of ignorance, stupidity, bigotry and hatred. Win or lose, that's all he's going to be remembered for. If Brady didn't have the political savvy to recognize that when he was alive, it's no wonder he failed to win the presidency 3 times. If Hornbeck is erasing Brady's entire life, Brady gave him a lot of help there.
@DrowedInExile, Oh, it sounds like you have some hatreds, too.
@@WJack97224 /eyeroll
@@DrownedInExile, Well, don't shoot the messenger. The road is wide but the gate is narrow; many are called but few are chosen.
@@WJack97224 More Eyeroll.
You have a high opinion of yourself.
@@DrownedInExile, Again, pejoratives don't win you a debate. Ad hominem attacks are simply not winning. Argumentum ad baculum is simply immoral, i.e. politics is immoral; it is violence!
Great ending. Such as Gene Kelly's character, "Even if I know I'm doomed, I have the right to live by my own my monstrosity and defend my essence through thick and thin....Wait, people would say that the executioners are long gone and the game's up. True, but the reasons they came in the first place still remain. Don't suppose I don't remember all the glances of hot girls since 1998, or how subtly people have attacked me since time immemorial, or the probable shadowy government long term conspiracy: was my birth in 1986 pre-ordained or at least the early childhood trauma I still can't remember that propeled the entity to blind and 'isolate' me for life?". So it goes🙃😆😅🤔😥
Cynicism is useful, powerful, vital... but it is not food. You can value atheism without becoming a religious bigot. You can be religious without become a bigoted zealot.
I've always loved the message, science is fact and truth, but it is not club to beat people with. The bible and other spiritual tomes contain ancient spirituality and powerful timeless concepts but they cannot be your governing principles alone.
We don't have to hate the former to understand and embrace the later.
I'd like to see Al Pacino as Drummond. And I feel Bob Odenkirk would make a terrific Hornbeck.
Interesting choices. Who do you see as Brady?
@@Shadowman4710 Tommy Lee Jones maybe.