Of course he’s not going to just clean out the bin. He’s gong to prep all the surrounding area as a bonus to the customer. Top notch service there Andrew.
Having worked on and around heavy equipment for many years, I’ve concluded that if the operator knows what he’s doing, I can figure out what he’s doing in about ten seconds of watching him. Every move you make with your machine is advancing toward the objective of cleaning out this flat spot. You use the various functions (track, bucket lift, bucket curl, and a little use of the jaws) in perfect coordination to rip out and lift the stumps from the debris. I generally don’t like skid steers but you use it to its limits to get the job done. Above all else you’re a top notch operator. Video editing and camera placement is remarkable. You go beyond skill and cross the line into talent for the way your video tells a story. One of the cooler urban exploration videos and your narration and local knowledge puts it several steps above most, even though that’s not the point. Drone footage was also awesome, not just for pretty pictures but to help tell the story of the dam and canal to the mill, even more effective combined with limited historic photos
I have to agree, Andrew is exceptional at explaining what he's doing for a wide audience. The camera footage and editing are always good but this was better than usual and the local knowledge and historical background make this the best video I've seen from him so far. But I still have quite a few more to watch as I work through his back catalogue :)
@@AndrewCamarata Are they going to put a hydro in here? It would seem like an obvious thing there should be some green fund that would finance this. My complete amateur guess would be quite a few mega watts that would save building a lot of windmills or solar farms and it wouldn't rely on the elements.
I am very rarely so emotionally and viscerally touched by the art in videos as I have been with your work. You may not intend your work as art, but it is peaceful, honest and visually beautiful. I feel so relaxed and yet stimulated visually by your work. I know that sounds really goofy, but I want to thank you and tell you to stay yourself and stay genuine. It’s your source. Thank you!
This one's actually the FIRST video of Andrew's I ever saw, and from it hooked subscriber. I don't have an addictive personality, but it's crazy how much I look forward to each new one. At first I though it was just my interest in utility and heavy equipment, but NOPE... just the appeal of Andrew's brand/style.
I’m an adult but you going through those old decrepit buildings took me back to kid again. I loved these types of places to play at when I was a kid and even though age is sinking it’s teeth into me I still get a twinge of youth. You seem to live in a truly beautiful area. It still amazes me how some people think that spray painting others property with their shit is acceptable. Thanks once again for your time and effort filming editing and uploading for us all to share.
The Barclay-Sheffield-Saugerties-Diamond Paper Mills (originally, founded by Mr. Barclay in 1830) made this part of New York State a very productive, thriving place. It offered jobs and left a lasting legacy in the region. It is so sad to see the state of this once grand institution. Luckily, the senior citizen apartments reclaimed one of the complex's buildings. Thank you, Andrew, for taking the time to show us around and share with us. As a native of Saugerties, you must have had conflicting emotions doing the clean-up work here.
Btw, the Town of Wells, New York bought the old NiMo dam in their town by floating 30 year bonds back in the mid 1980's. The money was used to restore the dam and install new electrical power generating turbines. Those bonds are now paid off and except for power station maintenance, residents of Wells now enjoy the lowest electric rates in NYS.
lets get this history right! the real reason nys has the cheapest hydro is because canada exports hydro to nys very cheap {below cost} because we have a surplus do you remember the black out of 2003 look it up on google how about thank you CANADA for a change trump
@@susannad27 While you are championing Canada and blaming Trump, please re-read the OP's statement. It was about one town in NYS, not all of NYS which you are ranting about. Reading is fundamental.
@@davidpippin3460 Yes that is correct, she is no doubt a misguided Trump hater, hoping to blame anything and everything on him. A true patriot of the dark side.
@@susannad27 Read the entire post before inserting foot in mouth. I must say you did a fantastic job of the aforementioned. Wells, N.Y. not N.Y. State, and Canada, had nothing to do with it.
From your description it sounds like Wells has a municipal power company. They have, again from your description, an exclusive source of cheap hydropower. They likely have a very high capacity factor on their own power project, avoiding purchases outside their own municipal control. Cool. They could add a diesel generator to back something up the hydropower that has a great capacity factor. BTW. There is a LOT of pressure from NGOs, "Environmental groups" like NRDC to shut down Indian Point, which should increase Natural gas sales, and dramatically raise rates across the lower Hudson region. NRDC, Riverkeepers (Hudson), Sierra club, FOE, and others are basically marketing arms for Oil and Gas interests. Shutting down Indian point is a prerequisite for opening up the New York portion of the Marcellus Shale. Indian Point at above 1 GWatt and a capacity factor of about 95%. It generates too much electrical energy to warrant flooding NYC and the lower Hudson with the Natural Gas that could replace it, hence the pressure to close Indian Point. Gas interests are confident, however, that it will be done; They're already building the gas plants that will be necessary once Indian Point is shut down. (I'm not connected to Indian point. I grew up on the Racquette River (Potsdam NY) in which the run of the river from Stark Reservoir to the Sugar Island powerhouse could generate about 120MW as it "fell" from the Adirondack plateau down through to the Saint Lawrence Valley. (Another beautiful place).
Ancient papermills (like those along the Willamette River in Oregon), were notorious polluters. Dioxins, mercury, lead, and other heavy metals are buried in sediment in the riverbed. Stirring that up is a no-no. "Don't eat old fish from the river!" is common knowledge (old meaning long-lived fish) they store the heavy metals in their fatty tissues which accumulate with age. No doubt this site has similar sediment and any disturbance would be considered a liability. Love watching your work. You go the extra mile in filming -- which makes a difference.
Andrew, you are special. You take a heart-felt interest in your jobs, and go over and beyond what is asked (and paid) for. This is so refreshing from the bust and leave contractors who are just out for a fast buck without half-way doing the job.
Yeah it is, there is a spot near where I live that was a huge mining community of thousands and now if you drive through you can't see any of the foundations unless you know where they are because it is so over grown. This was in 100 years. Not long in terms of the planet's age.
I've read a few times that if humans disappeared tomorrow, in about 1000 years with the exception of larger cities, you'd never be able to even tell that people lived in most rural areas. 10K years, most smaller towns would be pretty much erased. Our largest cities will remain for tens of thousands of years, especially buildings clad in stainless steel and other very long-lasting materials. Our plastics will be here for a loooong time.
Putting back the hydro would be the practical thing to do. We don't do practical any more . Great video, nice job and thanks for throwing in a little history, makes it all mean something .
no way any of this is servicable... did you see the end of the video? 27:17 - the river-side portion of the "foundation" is literally banded together with some sort of miller-lite drinking, ducttape fixing yankee inginuity bullshit lol
@@konanoobiemaster It is an economy of scale issue. The construction and maintenance costs for a big power plant are higher than a small plant but the output is much much higher, making the cost per unit less than a small plant The small plant can't compete. The big plant can spread the cost over many units of electricity. Even if it appears everything is in place here, the maintenance and operational costs are brutal. This country was littered with steels mills that were intact but the operational costs were too high and they were knocked down. Their issue wasn't a lack of scale but I am just making the point that these plants were intact and still knocked down... they couldn't compete. This isn't a liberal versus conservative issue. Some posters are blaming liberals. Actually, rebuilding this is probably something a stereotypical liberal would want..... damn the costs, it's green, let's do it. I worked in a gas fired turbine, power plant. The power business is complex, involving futures trading, hedging, modeling, etc. Off on a bit of a tangent now, but oil is another area that isn't what it appears to be. Everyone was pushing for drilling everywhere to depend less on the Middle East. Well, we are drilling everywhere, and we are also the number 3 oil exporter in the world... and still importing oil. It is a high tech, high finance game and the public bought into the BS.
Thanks for showing all the stuff you do I am old now and can’t do a lot of these things and it makes me happy to watch you do all kinds of stuff like I used to do very cool Andrew thank you
Your right about bricks, The brick industry grew in the 1880s when Washburn Brothers and Empire State Brick Company opened their brickyards. At one point, the area boasted over six brick factories (see below), a ferry service, a school, churches and several saloons. Bricks were sent down the Hudson River by barge to furnish the construction of America's cities. During the depression the brick business languished. One of the Washburn brothers committed suicide. All the workers were called in by the remaining brother and told, "Business is bad. If you stick with me you won't lose your job but your wages will be reduced until we can see this through. If you can't stick with the company you're free to go and find other work. Many left the brickyard and even Glasco to find other work. Many went to Athens and Hudson to work on other brickyards and in the cement plants.sell for a lot on eBay .you buy them and sell them .thx for sharing 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I build transformers for a living....mostly TVA work...and I've seen hydro stations on smaller rivers than that, so it is possible!....BTW, I really enjoy your videos, keep up the great work!
Im a carpenter and work on bigger sites. Some days you can get so tired of people that does the absolute least that is required for their job. And never would they even consider making the job easier for the next to come. You are an example of how one should work. Not that you only did more than you were required but also gathered those bluestones and made that driveway clear. You are terrific!! Love this channel. Keep up the good work👍
Always above and beyond for your customers great work Andrew, even considered the next guy for his work too so he has space. Love the history lesson too. Great idea using the canal at the end!
Great video....I'm only one third of the way through the videos. But I love the story of this old mill and mother nature taking it back. Drone footage was fantastic. And of course, Andrew does much more than he was hired to do.
That looks like a pretty sizable job. That building looks both scary and dangerous. Looks like the only thing holding it together is spray paint. Nice work and be safe!
This is in my hometown. Everyone called it “The Ruins” and it was mine and my friends favorite spot to hang out at after school. Miss those days. It’d be cool to see it turned into something nice!
Andrew Camarata I’d love to go back and see it again, it’s been a few years. I really enjoyed seeing the drone angles in this video! A really cool new perspective than what I’m used to seeing
@@AndrewCamarata i'm guessing it went quiet after the engineer came took one look at those 100 year old foundations and told them it would be bonkers to put anything on top of that
I could easily, and would much rather, watch any random video of Andrew's and be content as if I'm watching my favorite show. I admire that one man can do so much, and we can all look on to that as a measure of success. Thanks, and greetings from Houston Andrew, stay safe.
Usual great vid Andy. Hope you get the main job! Those bricks would be class 1 engineering, cost some dough to buy these days! As for the building, its had its day and prob. only ever made/used as a storage bin. Foundations unsuitable to build upon! knock it down and start again. Your getting a proper David Attenborough, with the narration as well! Keep em coming buddy.
I saw an old post card of the mill in Saugherties, NY, and it looks like that coal bin was the base of at least a two story building. The mill was abandoned in 1973.
So cool the way you operate your equipment, regardless which machine you use. You are a true equipment operator because you effortlessly reach out and touch your work using your hands and feet, with the machines as an extension of said feet and hands! I spent many years operating heavy equipment and remember how good it felt doing a job well done with a machine, no matter which machine it is. Awesome videos, thank you, and keep doing what you do.
For a practical person the idea of a hydro electric plant makes a lot of sense. But in the reality of our times I think getting approval would be a daunting task. I’m surprised nobody got on your case about wetlands permits working so near the water.
they might yet ! you need to keep a 20 buffer from waterways and berm with straw. if I were you I`d take down this video ! I get screw all the time here on staten island ! also not worth working anymore !
You are after an old retired health care professional lady, the mask, my first thought when I saw what you were to do was ,he Ned's to wear a mask and guess what , you did. I know too late for me to tell you this since this vedio is two years old. I love watching you , I have learned so much that I could have used when I was younger but now I just enjoy. You are great.
I've been doing site work down here in Florida since 1984 remember me telling you you got a good talent as far as your eye for grade I like seeing how it's done other places people say I should do videos on the way I do my dirt work but my channel is about tinkering on vehicles and my antique tractor I got a couple truck driving videos on my channel you got pretty good stuff It's amazing how over the years just leaves falling and when blowing debris actually built up on that floor and turned into soil and trees grew in it goes to show you no matter what man puts hear the Earth will take it back in time
Well done Andrew , really enjoyed watching you work , top class clean out of this old site , the drone footage at the end was the icing on the cake , big thumbs flying high from a galaxy far far away called Ireland ☘️🇮🇪👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️
Andrew, I have to say this is probably one of your most interesting videos to date as of 8-16-2020. Not sure how I missed this. Amazing what a patchwork quilt of roots were on top of the slab. I imagined that maybe the taproot found its way in a crack but kudos to those who built the bin no doubt. Thanks for recording and sharing with the world to see! No dang it is 11:31pm and I still have work to do.
...first video i found of yours a year ago, and i got hooked when you wandered through the old plant....very cool!...great videos....love the castle, love the dogs, love the narratives....keep it up....your story is well appreciated....
Wow! There is a small fortune in the red bricks, and a large fortune in the refractory bricks. perfect job for Jan. Feb. with frozen ground. They would make a lot of backyard pizza ovens. I wish I lived near by. Thank you Andrew for another fab. video! A Pizza oven, that's a new build for you Andrew, and your dogs love pizza!
I wonder if people understand the amount of effort that goes into producing these videos on top of having to do the jobs to pay the bills...amazing the amount of work you do on your own. The hydro plant would be an excellent idea if we didn’t have to deal with the EPA and all the multitude of government red tape and regulations. Andrew is the site near Kingston?
EPA would like small scale hydro. If it is privately owned land and there isn't a ton of water rights bs in the way, there would be little permission needed.
That pile of rusted tubes is the water tube boiler that use to run things there. I cant believe the coal shoots are still there too. Thank you for sharing.
I think about it every day when I’m digging them out. They are tremendously strong. These trees he took out couldn’t even get a normal bite through the concrete and they were still a pain.
yeah my buddy old bob cat has hard time biting through concrete but now he bought a brand new $48,000 kubota svl with forks and buckets and it worked like a hulk shes that powerful svl75-2 a 75.2hp
Any update on this job and what has happened subsequently with the site?? Would love to see some historical preservation happen here, or more videos of your work anywhere but especially here!
I just found your channel and I am so glad I did. I operate heavy equipment for a living, mainly paving and grading. I've wanted to start my own business for a few years now and it is so awesome to see others who have done it. It really helps to be talented and you definitely have the talent. I'm rambling now so keep the videos coming please and I hope you have so much work you can pick n choose nothing but the best jobs! I look forward to watching everyone of your videos.
is the canal plugged up now? from what can be seen in the video the flow doesn't seem to be that great, nor does the head (seeing as it is a canal, not a pipe). still though, hydroelectric is one of the most dependable sources of green energy, it might make a nice addition to that old folks home up the road. supplying a reasonable source of power all the time, and replacing their emergency generators. somewhat larger hydro is great for smoothing out a grid because of inertia in the turbine and generator, plus they throttle as easy as a fossil fuel plant, with a much quicker reaction
There must be a head of at least the height of the falls since the canal shortcuts the bend in the river that contains the falls. Whether that's enough to generate meaningful power I don't know, however. It might not be a big enough canal to divert the flow of water required, regardless of the head. Would be interesting to know though.
Andrew you have the best videos very informative and detailed.I like how you show your entire process pros and cons can help many avoid future problems. On hydro potential for this paper mill site the federal environmental laws are massive when dealing with living water ways.I have one on my farm and is not cost effective for me to go thru all the studies and permits and engineering to make it worth it.the government told me that it is so bad another Hoover type dam will never be built in the USA because of these issues. Keep up the good work . Eric
The place looks amazing. How is it, now ? Don't you have a following video ? Each time I watching a video on your channel, I want to know more, how it continued, it ends... Thanks for sharing your work.
It would depend if there are water rights owned by the mill site, and who owns the canal land. There are some very cool swim through hydro turbines on the market that would work very well and very efficient
Because of the size of the lake at the bottom and the amount of water flowing from the dam at the top, the amount of power you would generate would be small in comparison. It would be enough to power the buildings on-site, granted it's not an industrial building and simply a commercial building not housing anything high demand, such as a server farm. You would need to calculate the water flow and PSI to determine the cost of installation and the rate of return. I suspect rate of return on something that size would be around 5-7 years including any maintenance and life expectancy. Even then, the rate of return would be small. If the lake at the bottom was smaller, the return would be higher. I hope this helps.
Hi Andrew, just watch your one year Video. Nice to gave background preview about the Mills. Feel that comeback to the past. That make the video valuable to watch, beside the Well done your job too. Waiting your continuing job there...Thanks
everything everyone says is true to me too, but I also have to say that I never thought of NY as being beautiful....the only time I was in NY was when I was 13 with my 17 yr old brother, waiting and sleeping in the airport for a plane to Florida. The parents had sent us ahead of them from England where my dad was retiring from the AF. You never hear or see anything about how beautiful the mountains are...he's given us a rare gift.
Recently visited the remains of a small electric hydro plant on the Augusta, Ga canal. It was abandoned (1960s?) in an era of low electricity rates from very large coal burning plants. Now all the coal plants are being shut down and sustainable generation is back in style. Hope that gives a boost to your idea. Enjoyed the video - the right man and equipment for that job.
It would be a great shame not to take advantage at this stage to invest in a turbine, like you said it’s all there, just needs tidying up, I would definitely offset the energy needs for the old people’s home... just needs some calculations done for the water head and how many GPM for the flow to work out what KW you could produce, throughout the year according to rainfall... any spare metered power could be fed into the grid to earn some money.. a site and opportunity not to be missed ...
A lot of old dams are being removed today to reverse the damage they've done to the environment. The condition of the dam and the size of the impoundment would have to be established. I imagine with a dam over 100 years old there would be a large amount of silt built up behind the dam, which would decrease the amount of water available.You might be able to set up a small system using a pelton wheel, but I doubt you'd be able to establish any thing large enough to be able to sell power to the community.
Pelton was considered by the upstream dam and hotel owner. Last I understood the dam was never inspected when it was built placing it in the 'does not meet current code' category.
For native new Englanders and east coasters it's so cool to explore all the mill ruins . Everyone that grew up here I think has explored them. Some are just abandonded ruins of stone basements and some are giant abandonded industrial complexes like the one in this video. Always loved to compare the buildings still standing next to the ones that had returned to the earth and think what they might've looked like.
~~~~ Fascinating tour you gave us of this coal bin.... I would love to poke around in there and check it all out..Very interesting, great drone footage..Thanks !!!!
Unbelievable filming you may want to start your own series of documentaries or Public tv using your own format on pretty much what ever you choose. Thanks Andrew for the many awsome videos.
Spot on again Myman. Amazing locale, who knew. Bldng. on the water side. I don't know ,but what a nice view. Your truly at one with all the macines. Your the man .
The whole problem with developing that to produce power.. is engeneers and epa. Would stand in the way. Not to mention the home owners around there. Unless you offered free power for life.
I don't think so, you'd have more issues with local wildlife officials that the EPA. As far as the neighbors go, it's not likely to make any noise or produce any pollution... My biggest concern would be the amount of money it would take to restore the water passages....
The Environmental impact would be minimal if any at all. From a environmentalist standpoint... zero emissions to produce a significant amount of energy. They love that.
The main environmental issue you would be looking at would be the decrease in water flow via the existing water way. Hydro uses a lot of water and looking at the current flow over the dam wall, you would use almost the entire river flow the power a decent size turbine.
You will probably have to get an Army Corp of Engineering (ACOE) permit as they are pretty possesive, and have jurisdiction over all waters of the U.S. Wrap up the ACOE Permit inside the Environmantal Impact Statement (EIS) which you will in all likelyhood have to do as part of the environmental review process and ultimately for the building permit. All of the foregoing will be very expensive and subject to a formal public review/scrutiny process and potential law suits.
I think this site was all about brick making and brick transporting, rather than wood milling. There were a bunch of loose bricks on site. And to me the smoke stack might have been a different thing... An source of heat for baking the bricks. If it were a paper mill, logs would be brought in by ship. But there's no indication of that. Who knows...? lol, maybe not 24:18
Of course he’s not going to just clean out the bin. He’s gong to prep all the surrounding area as a bonus to the customer. Top notch service there Andrew.
Having worked on and around heavy equipment for many years, I’ve concluded that if the operator knows what he’s doing, I can figure out what he’s doing in about ten seconds of watching him. Every move you make with your machine is advancing toward the objective of cleaning out this flat spot. You use the various functions (track, bucket lift, bucket curl, and a little use of the jaws) in perfect coordination to rip out and lift the stumps from the debris. I generally don’t like skid steers but you use it to its limits to get the job done. Above all else you’re a top notch operator.
Video editing and camera placement is remarkable. You go beyond skill and cross the line into talent for the way your video tells a story. One of the cooler urban exploration videos and your narration and local knowledge puts it several steps above most, even though that’s not the point.
Drone footage was also awesome, not just for pretty pictures but to help tell the story of the dam and canal to the mill, even more effective combined with limited historic photos
Thanks.
I have to agree, Andrew is exceptional at explaining what he's doing for a wide audience. The camera footage and editing are always good but this was better than usual and the local knowledge and historical background make this the best video I've seen from him so far. But I still have quite a few more to watch as I work through his back catalogue :)
@@AndrewCamarata Are they going to put a hydro in here?
It would seem like an obvious thing there should be some green fund that would finance this. My complete amateur guess would be quite a few mega watts that would save building a lot of windmills or solar farms and it wouldn't rely on the elements.
I am very rarely so emotionally and viscerally touched by the art in videos as I have been with your work. You may not intend your work as art, but it is peaceful, honest and visually beautiful. I feel so relaxed and yet stimulated visually by your work. I know that sounds really goofy, but I want to thank you and tell you to stay yourself and stay genuine. It’s your source. Thank you!
This one's actually the FIRST video of Andrew's I ever saw, and from it hooked subscriber. I don't have an addictive personality, but it's crazy how much I look forward to each new one. At first I though it was just my interest in utility and heavy equipment, but NOPE... just the appeal of Andrew's brand/style.
I agree, so much talent as a videographer, never mind the stuff he does for a living.
@@yurapishwall621 Only words, but we can do better.
Amazing video production with ingenuity & how to alli in one~ I've been lost & mesmerized in this rabbit hole.... keepem coming
agreed!
It's amazing how the trees couldn't make it through the concrete and spread their root base outward.... really liked this video
they are all hardwood trees, surface root trees. No tap roots
I was going to say the same thing, it amazing that a strong wind didn’t blow them over
@@stephendoing2253 i imagine the saw mill would be down in a valley where wind would be less of an issue
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Xlnt vid Andrew. You're a master cleaner outer. You should follow up n see what they do with it. Thanks.
I’m an adult but you going through those old decrepit buildings took me back to kid again. I loved these types of places to play at when I was a kid and even though age is sinking it’s teeth into me I still get a twinge of youth. You seem to live in a truly beautiful area. It still amazes me how some people think that spray painting others property with their shit is acceptable. Thanks once again for your time and effort filming editing and uploading for us all to share.
The thing that separates your site from others of this kind is your cinematography. You have an natural ability with the camera you should pursue.
The Barclay-Sheffield-Saugerties-Diamond Paper Mills (originally, founded by Mr. Barclay in 1830) made this part of New York State a very productive, thriving place. It offered jobs and left a lasting legacy in the region. It is so sad to see the state of this once grand institution. Luckily, the senior citizen apartments reclaimed one of the complex's buildings. Thank you, Andrew, for taking the time to show us around and share with us. As a native of Saugerties, you must have had conflicting emotions doing the clean-up work here.
I don't know how but I'm addicted to these videos
its his presentation and Cadence i think.
@@markivan5324 Who's Candace?
Btw, the Town of Wells, New York bought the old NiMo dam in their town by floating 30 year bonds back in the mid 1980's. The money was used to restore the dam and install new electrical power generating turbines. Those bonds are now paid off and except for power station maintenance, residents of Wells now enjoy the lowest electric rates in NYS.
lets get this history right! the real reason nys has the cheapest hydro is because canada exports hydro to nys very cheap {below cost} because we have a surplus do you remember the black out of 2003 look it up on google how about thank you CANADA for a change trump
@@susannad27 While you are championing Canada and blaming Trump, please re-read the OP's statement. It was about one town in NYS, not all of NYS which you are ranting about. Reading is fundamental.
@@davidpippin3460 Yes that is correct, she is no doubt a misguided Trump hater,
hoping to blame anything and everything on him. A true patriot of the dark side.
@@susannad27 Read the entire post before inserting foot in mouth. I must say you did a fantastic job of the aforementioned. Wells, N.Y. not N.Y. State, and Canada, had nothing to do with it.
From your description it sounds like Wells has a municipal power company. They have, again from your description, an exclusive source of cheap hydropower. They likely have a very high capacity factor on their own power project, avoiding purchases outside their own municipal control. Cool. They could add a diesel generator to back something up the hydropower that has a great capacity factor. BTW. There is a LOT of pressure from NGOs, "Environmental groups" like NRDC to shut down Indian Point, which should increase Natural gas sales, and dramatically raise rates across the lower Hudson region. NRDC, Riverkeepers (Hudson), Sierra club, FOE, and others are basically marketing arms for Oil and Gas interests. Shutting down Indian point is a prerequisite for opening up the New York portion of the Marcellus Shale. Indian Point at above 1 GWatt and a capacity factor of about 95%. It generates too much electrical energy to warrant flooding NYC and the lower Hudson with the Natural Gas that could replace it, hence the pressure to close Indian Point. Gas interests are confident, however, that it will be done; They're already building the gas plants that will be necessary once Indian Point is shut down. (I'm not connected to Indian point. I grew up on the Racquette River (Potsdam NY) in which the run of the river from Stark Reservoir to the Sugar Island powerhouse could generate about 120MW as it "fell" from the Adirondack plateau down through to the Saint Lawrence Valley. (Another beautiful place).
Enjoy your videos. First started watching you build your castle. It is an addictive pleasure to see something actually getting done.
Ancient papermills (like those along the Willamette River in Oregon), were notorious polluters. Dioxins, mercury, lead, and other heavy metals are buried in sediment in the riverbed. Stirring that up is a no-no. "Don't eat old fish from the river!" is common knowledge (old meaning long-lived fish) they store the heavy metals in their fatty tissues which accumulate with age. No doubt this site has similar sediment and any disturbance would be considered a liability. Love watching your work. You go the extra mile in filming -- which makes a difference.
This was the first video I ever saw from you 5 yrs ago or so. Some of those stumps and roots were real beasts.
5:10 Next video is Andrew installing a micro hydro plant in a day he found on craigslist.
That normally runs $50 million, but their budget was only $500. Andrew made it work: "Eh it looks a little crazy but it'll be fine."
That was the one that came with all the free beavers, what a great video.
@@deeplyclosetedindividual And it's good as new.
lmao
Free money ;)
Andrew, you are special. You take a heart-felt interest in your jobs, and go over and beyond what is asked (and paid) for. This is so refreshing from the bust and leave contractors who are just out for a fast buck without half-way doing the job.
It's absolutely amazing how nature takes back over
Yeah it is, there is a spot near where I live that was a huge mining community of thousands and now if you drive through you can't see any of the foundations unless you know where they are because it is so over grown. This was in 100 years. Not long in terms of the planet's age.
I've read a few times that if humans disappeared tomorrow, in about 1000 years with the exception of larger cities, you'd never be able to even tell that people lived in most rural areas. 10K years, most smaller towns would be pretty much erased. Our largest cities will remain for tens of thousands of years, especially buildings clad in stainless steel and other very long-lasting materials. Our plastics will be here for a loooong time.
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I think you are grossly underestimating nature.
10K years to erase small towns?!
Try a couple hundred years.
@@AZ-kr6ff I mean foundations, concrete, stone, iron structures. The forest will reclaim a town in 40-50 years but you'll still have structures
@@racerex340
Whatever you say.
Amazing how big those tree stumps and roots were growing over concrete. One of the best cleanup videos ever with a skid steer!
Putting back the hydro would be the practical thing to do. We don't do practical any more . Great video, nice job and thanks for throwing in a little history, makes it all mean something .
I agree with you. We don't do practical anymore. We now rely on decision based on "box checking" environmental approval. Sadly disapointing...
Not unless it will service 10 million customers.
no way any of this is servicable... did you see the end of the video? 27:17 - the river-side portion of the "foundation" is literally banded together with some sort of miller-lite drinking, ducttape fixing yankee inginuity bullshit lol
@@konanoobiemaster It is an economy of scale issue. The construction and maintenance costs for a big power plant are higher than a small plant but the output is much much higher, making the cost per unit less than a small plant The small plant can't compete. The big plant can spread the cost over many units of electricity. Even if it appears everything is in place here, the maintenance and operational costs are brutal. This country was littered with steels mills that were intact but the operational costs were too high and they were knocked down. Their issue wasn't a lack of scale but I am just making the point that these plants were intact and still knocked down... they couldn't compete. This isn't a liberal versus conservative issue. Some posters are blaming liberals. Actually, rebuilding this is probably something a stereotypical liberal would want..... damn the costs, it's green, let's do it. I worked in a gas fired turbine, power plant. The power business is complex, involving futures trading, hedging, modeling, etc. Off on a bit of a tangent now, but oil is another area that isn't what it appears to be. Everyone was pushing for drilling everywhere to depend less on the Middle East. Well, we are drilling everywhere, and we are also the number 3 oil exporter in the world... and still importing oil. It is a high tech, high finance game and the public bought into the BS.
@@bg147 what in the ever-loving **** are you talking about
Thanks for showing all the stuff you do I am old now and can’t do a lot of these things and it makes me happy to watch you do all kinds of stuff like I used to do very cool Andrew thank you
Your right about bricks, The brick industry grew in the 1880s when Washburn Brothers and Empire State Brick Company opened their brickyards. At one point, the area boasted over six brick factories (see below), a ferry service, a school, churches and several saloons. Bricks were sent down the Hudson River by barge to furnish the construction of America's cities.
During the depression the brick business languished. One of the Washburn brothers committed suicide. All the workers were called in by the remaining brother and told, "Business is bad. If you stick with me you won't lose your job but your wages will be reduced until we can see this through. If you can't stick with the company you're free to go and find other work. Many left the brickyard and even Glasco to find other work. Many went to Athens and Hudson to work on other brickyards and in the cement plants.sell for a lot on eBay .you buy them and sell them .thx for sharing 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I remember watching this video when it was first uploaded and being mesmerized. I always rewatch it, and it's a classic. Great work!
I build transformers for a living....mostly TVA work...and I've seen hydro stations on smaller rivers than that, so it is possible!....BTW, I really enjoy your videos, keep up the great work!
Im a carpenter and work on bigger sites. Some days you can get so tired of people that does the absolute least that is required for their job. And never would they even consider making the job easier for the next to come. You are an example of how one should work. Not that you only did more than you were required but also gathered those bluestones and made that driveway clear. You are terrific!! Love this channel. Keep up the good work👍
That was clutch saving those blue stone slabs. Good eye.
Always above and beyond for your customers great work Andrew, even considered the next guy for his work too so he has space. Love the history lesson too. Great idea using the canal at the end!
That building is going to be sweet when done, with that waterfront view
Great video....I'm only one third of the way through the videos. But I love the story of this old mill and mother nature taking it back. Drone footage was fantastic. And of course, Andrew does much more than he was hired to do.
That looks like a pretty sizable job. That building looks both scary and dangerous. Looks like the only thing holding it together is spray paint. Nice work and be safe!
What an awesome site. Thank you for taking the time to walk through some of the structures.
Andrew : "Welcome to the dam tour. I'm your dam guide. Do you have any dam questions?"
That truck you have sure looks like it works hard for you , and those bobcats are amazing !
"Alright im on this job here today"
Someone make a supercut of that. One with the clips in a series, and one with them synced up.
and finish with "alright let's go do something else"
I think I have already seen around 50 films, and must admit that I am a bit jealous of your work and environment, greetz from sneek Dutch
This is in my hometown. Everyone called it “The Ruins” and it was mine and my friends favorite spot to hang out at after school. Miss those days. It’d be cool to see it turned into something nice!
Yeah, they had some ambitious plans for the site. I don't think anything else has happened lately though.
Andrew Camarata I’d love to go back and see it again, it’s been a few years. I really enjoyed seeing the drone angles in this video! A really cool new perspective than what I’m used to seeing
@@AndrewCamarata i'm guessing it went quiet after the engineer came took one look at those 100 year old foundations and told them it would be bonkers to put anything on top of that
I could easily, and would much rather, watch any random video of Andrew's and be content as if I'm watching my favorite show. I admire that one man can do so much, and we can all look on to that as a measure of success. Thanks, and greetings from Houston Andrew, stay safe.
Usual great vid Andy. Hope you get the main job! Those bricks would be class 1 engineering, cost some dough to buy these days! As for the building, its had its day and prob. only ever made/used as a storage bin. Foundations unsuitable to build upon! knock it down and start again. Your getting a proper David Attenborough, with the narration as well! Keep em coming buddy.
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Haha! David Attenborough. I love it.
True, though.
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I saw an old post card of the mill in Saugherties, NY, and it looks like that coal bin was the base of at least a two story building. The mill was abandoned in 1973.
So cool the way you operate your equipment, regardless which machine you use. You are a true equipment operator because you effortlessly reach out and touch your work using your hands and feet, with the machines as an extension of said feet and hands! I spent many years operating heavy equipment and remember how good it felt doing a job well done with a machine, no matter which machine it is. Awesome videos, thank you, and keep doing what you do.
For a practical person the idea of a hydro electric plant makes a lot of sense. But in the reality of our times I think getting approval would be a daunting task. I’m surprised nobody got on your case about wetlands permits working so near the water.
they might yet ! you need to keep a 20 buffer from waterways and berm with straw. if I were you I`d take down this video ! I get screw all the time here on staten island ! also not worth working anymore !
It's NY, everything is wetlands.
You are after an old retired health care professional lady, the mask, my first thought when I saw what you were to do was ,he Ned's to wear a mask and guess what , you did. I know too late for me to tell you this since this vedio is two years old. I love watching you , I have learned so much that I could have used when I was younger but now I just enjoy. You are great.
I've been doing site work down here in Florida since 1984 remember me telling you you got a good talent as far as your eye for grade I like seeing how it's done other places people say I should do videos on the way I do my dirt work but my channel is about tinkering on vehicles and my antique tractor I got a couple truck driving videos on my channel you got pretty good stuff It's amazing how over the years just leaves falling and when blowing debris actually built up on that floor and turned into soil and trees grew in it goes to show you no matter what man puts hear the Earth will take it back in time
Yes, nothing is permanent. I often wonder what is buried in the past, deep down where we'll never find it.
Rusty Stuff That a big 10/4
Well done Andrew , really enjoyed watching you work , top class clean out of this old site , the drone footage at the end was the icing on the cake , big thumbs flying high from a galaxy far far away called Ireland ☘️🇮🇪👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️
Thank you for sharing your amazing story, God bless you and your family.
Andrew, I have to say this is probably one of your most interesting videos to date as of 8-16-2020. Not sure how I missed this. Amazing what a patchwork quilt of roots were on top of the slab. I imagined that maybe the taproot found its way in a crack but kudos to those who built the bin no doubt. Thanks for recording and sharing with the world to see! No dang it is 11:31pm and I still have work to do.
This is in Saugerties, NY, by the way, for those who don't know where the Diamond Mills Paper Company, built in 1894, is.
...first video i found of yours a year ago, and i got hooked when you wandered through the old plant....very cool!...great videos....love the castle, love the dogs, love the narratives....keep it up....your story is well appreciated....
That drone is the "cats meow!" Excellent shots and super vjayo work. You are Andrew Spielberg! Dam to the mill was great!!
Got pretty close a couple of times, to that wire above the dam though! :)
i cant stop watching this guys vids..... so easy to watch and listen to.... keep it up man!!!!
Andrew Camarata means AC and AC means Always Clean job.10/10
Wow! There is a small fortune in the red bricks, and a large fortune in the refractory bricks. perfect job for Jan. Feb. with frozen ground. They would make a lot of backyard pizza ovens. I wish I lived near by. Thank you Andrew for another fab. video! A Pizza oven, that's a new build for you Andrew, and your dogs love pizza!
You're a hard worker. RESPECT. JD in Belgium.
Smart move with the dust mask. No dust, fumes etc are going to do you any good.
Favourite channel, I loved the last fix anything video.
I wonder if people understand the amount of effort that goes into producing these videos on top of having to do the jobs to pay the bills...amazing the amount of work you do on your own. The hydro plant would be an excellent idea if we didn’t have to deal with the EPA and all the multitude of government red tape and regulations. Andrew is the site near Kingston?
55 E. Bridge St., Saugerties, NY
It’s still near Kingston, New York.
EPA would like small scale hydro. If it is privately owned land and there isn't a ton of water rights bs in the way, there would be little permission needed.
That pile of rusted tubes is the water tube boiler that use to run things there. I cant believe the coal shoots are still there too. Thank you for sharing.
Always amazes me how hard tree roots are to take out.
probbly wishing had a kubota svl 75-2 or svl 90-2 skid steer wich they have more lifting compasity and sterdy units
Jeff Gannon well if you think about it Jeff the tree roots have to hold the tree in the ground with all that weight on top blowing around all the time
I think about it every day when I’m digging them out. They are tremendously strong. These trees he took out couldn’t even get a normal bite through the concrete and they were still a pain.
yeah my buddy old bob cat has hard time biting through concrete but now he bought a brand new $48,000 kubota svl with forks and buckets and it worked like a hulk shes that powerful svl75-2 a 75.2hp
Michael Mac Tavish our company bought the same one but we got ours for 46k
I am addicted to Andrew's videos.
So, whatever happened with this location? Anything? It would be fun to see an update.
DEFINATELY NEED AN UPDATE ON THE SITE
looking at google maps, it dosnt look like anything has changed since this job
@@zakokiller Thanks so much! Appreciate it!
@@zakokiller www.google.com/maps/place/42%C2%B004'20.2%22N+73%C2%B056'43.0%22W/@42.07229,-73.9458222,102m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m14!1m7!3m6!1s0x89dda72f6b551f4f:0x8f0d32b7ba8e2714!2s55+E+Bridge+St,+Saugerties,+NY+12477!3b1!8m2!3d42.0714652!4d-73.9464067!3m5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d42.0722901!4d-73.9452746
They’ve actually done a little more stuff there, they are trying to set up some kind of public space there but it’s not ready yet
I'm so glad you have and used a steadycam during that walk through!
Any update on this job and what has happened subsequently with the site?? Would love to see some historical preservation happen here, or more videos of your work anywhere but especially here!
I just found your channel and I am so glad I did. I operate heavy equipment for a living, mainly paving and grading. I've wanted to start my own business for a few years now and it is so awesome to see others who have done it. It really helps to be talented and you definitely have the talent. I'm rambling now so keep the videos coming please and I hope you have so much work you can pick n choose nothing but the best jobs! I look forward to watching everyone of your videos.
Thanks
is the canal plugged up now? from what can be seen in the video the flow doesn't seem to be that great, nor does the head (seeing as it is a canal, not a pipe). still though, hydroelectric is one of the most dependable sources of green energy, it might make a nice addition to that old folks home up the road. supplying a reasonable source of power all the time, and replacing their emergency generators. somewhat larger hydro is great for smoothing out a grid because of inertia in the turbine and generator, plus they throttle as easy as a fossil fuel plant, with a much quicker reaction
There must be a head of at least the height of the falls since the canal shortcuts the bend in the river that contains the falls. Whether that's enough to generate meaningful power I don't know, however. It might not be a big enough canal to divert the flow of water required, regardless of the head. Would be interesting to know though.
Andrew, you do what most people would want to do. And that is to wake up happy to go to work!
Just love the way you edit Andrew. great stuff! Definitely keeps my attention.
Andrew you have the best videos very informative and detailed.I like how you show your entire process pros and cons can help many avoid future problems. On hydro potential for this paper mill site the federal environmental laws are massive when dealing with living water ways.I have one on my farm and is not cost effective for me to go thru all the studies and permits and engineering to make it worth it.the government told me that it is so bad another Hoover type dam will never be built in the USA because of these issues. Keep up the good work . Eric
The OCD in me, enjoys this vid very much.
oh great, i just found out i have ocd
@@murph55 no. No you haven't.
Everyone just has OCD because it is hyped
Sort of work i love, so looking forward to an update. excellent work Andrew.
So interesting to see how everything packs down and knits together over time, love these clean up videos, the old building look interesting
The place looks amazing. How is it, now ?
Don't you have a following video ?
Each time I watching a video on your channel, I want to know more, how it continued, it ends...
Thanks for sharing your work.
Same. I tried searching for it, but couldn't find any videos mentioning mill, coal or park.
@@ChadAmI80 If only he could make some playlist or somethong....
diamond mills co saugerties look it up
its a hotel complex now apparently.
13K+👍's up Andrew thanks again for taking us all to work with you
It would depend if there are water rights owned by the mill site, and who owns the canal land. There are some very cool swim through hydro turbines on the market that would work very well and very efficient
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Water rights.. environmental impact studies.. risk of that entire creepy complex collapsing etc... LOL
It's NY State. Fugetabout it.
Thank you for sharing . That bobcat has so much power.
Because of the size of the lake at the bottom and the amount of water flowing from the dam at the top, the amount of power you would generate would be small in comparison. It would be enough to power the buildings on-site, granted it's not an industrial building and simply a commercial building not housing anything high demand, such as a server farm. You would need to calculate the water flow and PSI to determine the cost of installation and the rate of return. I suspect rate of return on something that size would be around 5-7 years including any maintenance and life expectancy. Even then, the rate of return would be small. If the lake at the bottom was smaller, the return would be higher. I hope this helps.
This video is my start to watching Andrew. Have enjoyed all since than.
Would be nice to find old pictures of the area and buildings
A first hand experience of site reclamation. Appreciate the perspective.
Andrew: You should clean up all these buildings
City: We dont have the budget to do them all yet
Andrew: Hold my camera.
Hi Andrew, just watch your one year Video. Nice to gave background preview about the Mills. Feel that comeback to the past. That make the video valuable to watch, beside the Well done your job too. Waiting your continuing job there...Thanks
I'm jealous. You get paid to do what I'd enjoy doing for free.
find a job you love and you wont work a day in your life. or something like that.
I think this could be a saga of clean up tales lol. Wow what a difference! Love the aerial video footage!
you should make a mount to put on top of the cabins on the machines so we can get a diffrent pov like if you agree
everything everyone says is true to me too, but I also have to say that I never thought of NY as being beautiful....the only time I was in NY was when I was 13 with my 17 yr old brother, waiting and sleeping in the airport for a plane to Florida. The parents had sent us ahead of them from England where my dad was retiring from the AF. You never hear or see anything about how beautiful the mountains are...he's given us a rare gift.
Some of those bricks are worth slot of money. Old Chicago bricks are worth a mint down here in Alabama
Recently visited the remains of a small electric hydro plant on the Augusta, Ga canal. It was abandoned (1960s?) in an era of low electricity rates from very large coal burning plants. Now all the coal plants are being shut down and sustainable generation is back in style. Hope that gives a boost to your idea.
Enjoyed the video - the right man and equipment for that job.
All that build up of soil and the size of the trees that grew in it is amazing after only 70 years. Think about a 1000 years. What would be left?
Probably about 30 feet or more buried.
People are touched by what You desire to do, CHEERS these are hard times and what You are doing is special! jimmyt
It would be a great shame not to take advantage at this stage to invest in a turbine, like you said it’s all there, just needs tidying up, I would definitely offset the energy needs for the old people’s home... just needs some calculations done for the water head and how many GPM for the flow to work out what KW you could produce, throughout the year according to rainfall... any spare metered power could be fed into the grid to earn some money.. a site and opportunity not to be missed ...
Old infrastructure is usually worse than a fresh site when it comes to an industrial building. It usually takes more investment not less.
The old 'canal' was also a functional fish ladder. No more.
So satisfying seeing you and the bobcat at work.....
A lot of old dams are being removed today to reverse the damage they've done to the environment. The condition of the dam and the size of the impoundment would have to be established. I imagine with a dam over 100 years old there would be a large amount of silt built up behind the dam, which would decrease the amount of water available.You might be able to set up a small system using a pelton wheel, but I doubt you'd be able to establish any thing large enough to be able to sell power to the community.
Pelton was considered by the upstream dam and hotel owner. Last I understood the dam was never inspected when it was built placing it in the 'does not meet current code' category.
For native new Englanders and east coasters it's so cool to explore all the mill ruins . Everyone that grew up here I think has explored them. Some are just abandonded ruins of stone basements and some are giant abandonded industrial complexes like the one in this video. Always loved to compare the buildings still standing next to the ones that had returned to the earth and think what they might've looked like.
G'day mate is there any other follow up videos to this site?
~~~~ Fascinating tour you gave us of this coal bin.... I would love to poke around in there and check it all out..Very interesting, great drone footage..Thanks !!!!
this is how I clean my room
Unbelievable filming you may want to start your own series of documentaries or Public tv using your own format on pretty much what ever you choose. Thanks Andrew for the many awsome videos.
They defintly should make it a Hydro electric plant, I would love to see more progress be done on this project.
Spot on again Myman. Amazing locale, who knew. Bldng. on the water side. I don't know ,but what a nice view. Your truly at one with all the macines. Your the man .
Is there any local pictures of it when it was running. I like to see what it use to be.
Holy crap Andrew that's some beautiful countryside around where you live job well done
Reminds me of the old zoo & gang HQ from police academy
I love old buildings like this with a burning passion. Thank you for the cool history!
The whole problem with developing that to produce power.. is engeneers and epa. Would stand in the way. Not to mention the home owners around there. Unless you offered free power for life.
I don't think so, you'd have more issues with local wildlife officials that the EPA. As far as the neighbors go, it's not likely to make any noise or produce any pollution... My biggest concern would be the amount of money it would take to restore the water passages....
The Environmental impact would be minimal if any at all. From a environmentalist standpoint... zero emissions to produce a significant amount of energy. They love that.
The main environmental issue you would be looking at would be the decrease in water flow via the existing water way.
Hydro uses a lot of water and looking at the current flow over the dam wall, you would use almost the entire river flow the power a decent size turbine.
All you'd have to do to restore the waterway, is to run a firehose from the top to the bottom, enough for a house
You will probably have to get an Army Corp of Engineering (ACOE) permit as they are pretty possesive, and have jurisdiction over all waters of the U.S. Wrap up the ACOE Permit inside the Environmantal Impact Statement (EIS) which you will in all likelyhood have to do as part of the environmental review process and ultimately for the building permit. All of the foregoing will be very expensive and subject to a formal public review/scrutiny process and potential law suits.
An amazing site that would be so
cool to walk around and explore more
Good job Andrew ,for my sence of view they don't wante spend money in theyr ,
I think this site was all about brick making and brick transporting, rather than wood milling.
There were a bunch of loose bricks on site. And to me the smoke stack might have been a different thing... An source of heat for baking the bricks.
If it were a paper mill, logs would be brought in by ship. But there's no indication of that.
Who knows...? lol, maybe not 24:18