The Black Hole 1979 - Cygnus fly past
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
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When she lights up it still gives me goosebumps - forty years later.
This soundtrack is so underrated. Absolutely love it.
There's something about the imperfection of pre-digital effects that is able to capture something hauntingly real, dark, and cold about space. The OG Star Wars, Alien, and this movie have that feeling.
Reality is "imperfect" too. These models are real objects, that's why they feel real. Computer animations are not physically real, that's why their "realness feeling" is limited. We subconsciously notice that they are too perfect, too artificial.
Impressive special effects combined with an epic, sweeping score from John Barry. Honestly, what's not to like? A hugely underrated film.
It indeed is a great film. The problem was that it came out almost the same time as Star Trek The Motion Picture.
The man who composed this music was born to be a genius in composing. This film proves it
It needed James Bond.
@@kevinmaddows6171 The score is one of the most beautiful I've ever heard. The first few cues are a little repetitive, but that doesn't kill the listening experience. I thought the titles theme for The Black Hole was one of the most haunting ever composed. In fact, some elements of that theme...the violin strains over the melody... make it sound almost 1950'ish (in a good way). I think "Laser Battle" might have been a little out of place, but so many of the other themes were simply gorgeous to listen to. I sometimes have the score play in the background as I go to sleep. John Barry really did a great job with this film's score.
A perfect fusion of music and visuals. I'll never understand why Disney seem almost embarrassed by The Black Hole, it's one of their best films from the 70's. The special effects still impress, without being overloaded with CGI, the soundtrack is outstanding.
A typical John Barry Theme. Impressive like in "The Depht" or in sofern of the oder James Bond films. Like you said: Outstanding.
I don't think they're at all embarassed by it. It was one of their first attempts at more adult fare, but the audiences were being oversaturated by outer-space movies then, and it just didn't catch the eyes of enough people. Obviously it's become more appreciated since then. It was really just a case of bad timing. If this had released a year later in 1980, in between the first "Star Trek" movie and "Empire Strikes Back," it probably would have done better.
i bought the DVD a few yrs ago...they changed the soundtrack, ffs just the main titles on repeat...UGH
Because there’s no diversity in it
@@cubdukat Oversaturated? Now that's a word I haven't heard in a long, long time.
A hugely underrated film - Disney's most ambitious, and most impressive live action work since 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. Why is it so forgotten?
Maybe that was the problem. Had The Black Hole come out say, 20 years earlier, it would have been an instant SF classic like Forbidden Planet. But it came out after 2001: A Space Odyssey over a decade earlier, Star Wars, Alien and Star Trek: TMP. When you compare the scripts and special effects there is just no comparison. Don't get me wrong; the Cygnus is a gorgeous ship (I really liked the Gothic Cathedral look of it) and John Barry's score is top notch, but the movie feels anachronistic compared to its contemporaries. It's a '50s or early '60s SF movie that came much too late.
Not by myself.
I still remember as a child when I first watched this movie how brilliant the ending is. The last five minutes without even one word spoken, all visual, music, and symbolic. For that to leave a mark on a seven year old speaks volumes
US Sci fi types utterly lambasted it for decades. So no Star Wars type revival, in the US, any sci fi has to be aligned with the Sacred Needs of the Great US Sci Fi Fandom Wisdom Network of Super Knowledgeable Elder Geek Beings or nothing happens. Annoying, but that 's that.
20,000 is one of my favorite FX movies.
Had the model of the Cygnus as a kid, until my dad tossed it, was a beautiful spaceship!
I am sad to hear that happened.
It is possible that it will be reissued--my bet is on Round 2 who might own the molds. I'd love to have one as I never got one of the originals.
@@Hjerte_Verke You should let us know nerds alike about this if you manage to get it!
@@Hjerte_Verke There is one on E bay but the guy is nuts selling it $239 starting bid !!
Me too. And it came with a miniature Palomino and probe ship.
I remember seeing this at the theater when I was 12, I thought it was dark and foreboding, but also beautiful. The gothic like structure of the ship reminds me of Warhammer 40k, a game I became interested in back in the 80's.
Really I also saw at the theater I was 14 years old than.
Still a favorite of mine. I read the picture book adaptation long before I saw the movie, and I was blown away when I watched it.
Ah, good times. It isn't the best movie in the world, but I have nothing but fond memories of it.
Author Allen Dean Foster. If you saw the movie Enemy Mine, he wrote a very detailed novelization of that movie also. In it, he takes the time to explain about the alien culture and cast system. Well worth reading before you rewatch the movie.
I had the record book of Black Hole.
As a child, I had both the picture book and the story album plus the comic books. I don't like the picture book all that much however. It was not at all like the movie 🍿.
How do you put a haunted house in the middle of deep space?
By making the spaceship look gothic as hell and keep all the lights turned off until the last second.
And you can see figures in some of the windows.
This was seriously good model design, and it's an art we've lost with the increase in CGI effects.
Every bit of a haunted mansion in space.
A cathedral in space
Note the choice of name too... the constellation Cygnus is the shape of a cross.
It’s very Victorian with all the lattice work and glass would be very steam punk I have a metal fab biz my engineer buddy worked out a basic plan to build one out of steel and use aluminum cross lattice and Lexan to give it that look the scale will make the model about 4 foot long thinking of lighting it with LEDs
@@johnsiders7819 That would be awesome
@@johnsiders7819 I believe I read that the original Cygnus model used for filming was made mostly of brass.
@@msh6865 yes was easy to work with they soldered it together one was ruined for filming the other went to the New York museum of modern art then vanished !! it seems like it would show up one day ?? I will use the stuff that I have on hand wont all be 100% perfect but will look good hanging lit in my shop as other projects do that I made just for the fun of it others say I wasted money and time on but its unique . last week at the dinner table I held up a clear glass dessert bowl about 3 inches round and said Hey these will look great as the reactor covers and pilot house for that ship ! getting funny looks from all :)
My order brother brought me to this movie, the visuals were amazing, along with the music score it was spectacular. Would i ever love to see this on the big screen again, it would be amazing too watch again.
The Ultimate Steampunk ship!!
John Barry's music....two space themed movie's from 1979...This and Moonraker...they sound familiar
At 1:50 when the music builds up to this orchestral blast, and then the lights turn on. THIS is how you stage a haunted house in the vastness of space.
This music and the visuals give me major goosebumps. Can also recommend Raise the Titanic for a similar audio experience.
I can remember watching this at the cinema when I was 7 years old, I even had my own version of the USS CYGNUS made out of Lego. With other sci-fi films released in the same year as this including Moonraker, Alien and Star Trek TMP it's such a shame, like so many other people have said that The Black Hole is so underrated. Great special effects, a wonderful score from John Barry, a top film cast and a ship the likes of which have never been seen before or since what isn't there to like about this?
That sounds like me. I did the same thing.
Saw this in 1979 when i was ten my dad took me and my brother,our mum was not rearly intrested in seeing it a memorable film and soundtrack and still great to watch today 🙂 great memories
I thought the script for this film had major problems...but dang, the art direction, model building, and the music were all top-notch.
I hear so much James Bond "Into Space" from Moonraker in this.
Some of those motion control shots had to be a nightmare to work on, especially that first one where the Cygnus is in darkness. I'd hate to be the poor schlub tasked with pulling a matte out of that scene.
I think it was shot front light / back light, once fully lit and once in silhouette. With motion control, they are identical so the silhouette pass is the matte. Similar to the way Richard Edlund did the composites on 2010 (1984).
@@biffmercury That would definitely be the way I'd handle it. No blue spill.
@@cubdukat I think Art Cruickshank was in charge of opticals, and he was a master of the art of visual effects. If anyone was up to the task of handling the tricky optical photography, it was him.
Still one of my favorites. Love everything about the Cygnus
One of my all time favorites and one that Disney should be proud. Great cast musical soundtrack
This ship looks like the Eiffel Tower flying through space.
Yes, absolutely.
All this a nearly a decade before the term ‘steampunk’ was first used.
I believe it was supposed to look like the Crystal Palace... a similar structure, in many ways.
Thank you, Garry, I appreciated your editing and choice of music (using the Six Robots funeral music instead of the opening title). You made The Cygnus spookier and more dramatic than it appeared in the actual movie. You also made it more like my memory of the film than my actual experience. As others have mentioned, what was special about The Black Hole was the art direction, cinematography, and John Berry's music. The screenplay was an awkward marriage of Poseidon Adventure and Star Wars that didn't quite hold together. The producers should have just embraced the horror/disaster aspects of the film rather than trying to compete with George Lucas. FYI, I first saw this movie as a teenager in the theaters in 1979. It's always had an inexplicable hold on me, mainly because of how it looks and sounds.
The USS Cygnus is one of the most Gothic/steampunk looking spaceships ever.
Yes. It looks like a battle bark from Warhammer
The soundtrack would be right at home in a pre-1990s James Bond movie.
Actually the Bond film Moonraker was John Barry's next project after The Black Hole
Everything John Barry wrote is awesome, even if the movie wasn't. I hear shades of Moonraker all thru this.
...like Howard the Duck!
Did he write the music for that too?! Not even kidding, this and Moonraker are the two films that are my favorite in the music used
@@kevinmaddows6171 The work he did with Dances With Wolves had to be his greatest.
I loved this ship and the movie and the soundrack
I loved this sequence in The Black Hole. Really shows off the scale of the Cygnus. I also loved the attention to detail, like the Palomino having maneuvering thrusters...something you rarely, if ever, saw in sci fi movies of the era. I've said this in other videos regarding the U.S.S. Cygnus and the U.S.S. Palomino: One of the reasons the Cygnus is one of my all time favorite spacecraft is because it looks as at home in a film that might have been an adaptation of a Jules Verne novel, and it also looks like it could be a kissing cousin to another gothic looking spacecraft, The Event Horizon. The Palomino is one of my all time faves because it has this near-future NASA style look to it as an explorer craft.
Trivia note (which you most likely already know) : In the film, Cygnus' designation was United States Space Probe One. That seems to be a callback/acknowledgement to "Space Probe One" which was a concept title for an earlier draft of what would become The Black Hole. It was meant to be a disaster film in space, in the vein of The Poseidon Adventure. This was back in the early to mid 70's when disaster films were popular.
Thanks for sharing this video, and nice reuse of other music from this film.
A really impressive spacecraft and a great score from John Barry.
This movie makes so many things right compared to another movies. The Movie-Team came to the right time with the idea and concept for making this movie. Sadly, i was not born when the movie came out, but IF i coiuld i would watch this movie so often in a cinema. Alone the costumes for the Sentry-Robots are awesome and epic. Some of them was sold via ebay if i am right. Very sad i could not safe a helmet for me for cheap money. And the sets are very fantastic. My english is not the very best, but i write my thought in german: Jeder der den Film damals im Kino sehen konnte kann sehr stolz auf sich sein. Sehr schade das mir das verwehrt blieb.
I hope Disney Germany release this beautiful movie on blu-ray too. :-)
This is probably one of the most realistic depictions ever of how a ship may appear in space without a nearby star available to help illuminate (unllike the perfectly lit ships you see on practically any other scifi series.)
"(unllike the perfectly lit ships you see on practically any other scifi series.)"
Perfectly lit and all oriented the same way, despite the fact there's no up or down in space. It'd be refreshing to see a Star Trek show where two ships encounter each other ( say a Federation starship and a Klingon ship) and one of the ships is inverted or is oriented so it is 90 degrees off the other ship's orientation.degrees
It felt real in the theater back in the day.
007 Moonraker, if shot by Disney.
RIP John Barry ....the best composer any film ever had!
And the work he did for Dances With Wolves was simply amazing...parts of the score to certain scenes actually moved my sister to tears...and me too.
That is one colorful "Black Hole". Nice visuals anyway.
I love this movie ... the music .. the Cygnus looks like an Eiffel Tower and lit up like a Christmas tree .... but the whole movie has a dark horror element .... I just like this movie - it's something you can watch now and then to re-experience the whole feel of it.
One of my favorite movies of all time!
loved that movie when i first viewed it, and still do.
Ovni devenu culte avec le temps, Le Trou Noir reste une énigme dans le monde du cinéma de science fiction.
Incursion totalement improbable de Disney dans la hard sf, ce film a nul autre pareil, globalement raté, fascine toujours autant.
La direction artistique est démente (le visuel du Trou Noir en lui même, le Cygnus et son design à couper le souffle, le terrifiant Maximilien en robot tueur), la partition du grand John Barry grandiose, et l'entrée en matière du film fout des frissons en terme d'ambiance angoissante et ténébreuse.
Hélas une mauvaise direction d'acteurs (pourtant pas des débutants, Shell, Perkins, Borgnine, pour ne citer qu'eux), des concessions absurdes et enfantines pour singer Star Wars (Vincent qui cherche à concurrencer R2D2) et une fin absurde (le paradis et l'enfer au delà du trou noir ? ) gachent tout.
Et pourtant quel écrin sublime. A voir malgré ses défauts ne serait ce que pour la musique et les décors fabuleux.
This is the first movie I ever watched.
Love that movie, so well made.
Just imagine being there!
I remember seeing this spaceship as a kid.
Imagine all of the time and effort it took to build that ship I wonder how much it cost the taxpayers to built it I like the more serious tone of the movie at the beginning an underrated masterpiece and a unappreciated classic in its own time
I love this movie.
this movie is cult ♡♡♡
ADULT movie
a true masterpiece, not understood by most
Major copout at the end though. As a kid I was soooo disappointed with what was on the other side.
It's a mixed bag. Some really cool stuff and some really dumb stuff. Because it was Disney they had to have cute good robots and incompetent bad sentry robots. I would like to see a remake that jettisons the kiddie stuff.
@@Tommykey07 Event Horizon had a strikingly similar concept and plot, but with buckets of blood and guts instead of cuddly robots...
The Black Hole is a hugely flawed movie, but man does it have mood going for it.
it's so badly done with our current eyes but it's still a very good moment of cinema (sorry i m french i use google translate).. and no dislike with over 8000 views, good game ^^
Apparently the original prop was twelve feet long. It was eventually destroyed, by accident, by a poorly-driven forklift.
Two guys sitting in prison
“What’re you in here for?”
“I killed a guy… what’re your in here for?”
“I tried to get Lego to do an all technic piece Cygnus set”
DUUUUUUUUDE
Imagine the hours of work it took to build the miniture No computer graphics back then
There were TWO miniatures. Both about 12 feet in length. One for shots, one to destroy in the meteor storm and subsequent ship break up.
No so much miniatures lol there were two full models of the Cygnus built at a little over twelve feet long, with other sectional models built to a much larger scale for certain close up shots. The twelve foot miniatures weighed 170 pounds each and were constructed primarily of brass and completely made from scratch, with EMA tubes and domes used for detailing. Under this brass exoskeleton were sections of translucent plastic built in sections which housed about a hundred and fifty automotive light bulbs. The two models cost $100,000 and took a crew of 12 to 15 people approximately a year to build. One of the two models were completely destroyed filming the story's ending sequences. The other model went to the Museum of Modern Art in New York for a time after filming. It's fate since then remains a mystery..
@@GDDavison I can see brass used it’s easy to work with all the joints had to be soldered I do metal fab have a drawing by a engineer to build one about four feet long using mild steel and aluminum x lattice along with Lexan inside of the body with led lighting to give it that glow thru the metal .
@@GDDavison I hope it turns up somewhere. It deserves to be a permanent museum exhibit
The best sci-fi movie ever made.
absolutely ♡♡♡
Isn't it amazing how the Palomino fits exactly in the docking bay of the Cygnus?
Well, considering they are both from the same fleet, I would expect the design of the larger vessel to accommodate the smaller one.
The sequence presented here has edited out some interior shots from the Palomino. Their computer displays a schematic of the Cygnus & shows different sized docking bays. The one they dock with was activated & opened by the Cygnus because it was the proper size for that ship.
Fun fact, the USS Palomino was only 1 of a series of research ships that shared the same general design, so that landing area would have probably fitted that or slightly different types of space craft
I heard that moonraker que in there.
Was quite cool back in it's day. Kids now might still get a kick out of it.
Looking at the design of the USS Cygnus... makes me wonder if the creators of Warhammer 40,000 got some inspiration from it when designing the ships of the Imperium.
Or... if they also got inspiration for the Warp from (spoiler alert) the end of this movie when the Cygnus falls into the black hole, Reinhardt becomes one with Maximilian and they both end up in Hell (or some version of it) for his misdeeds, and the crew of the Palomino go to or through Heaven (or an approximation of it) in the Cygnus' probe ship.
It can really make you wonder.
Not a fan of the movie, but there were moments that were pretty amazing such as this one.
Just get rid of the V.I.N.C.E.N.T. edits. :)
Much is made of John Barry's musical score, and rightly so. But humor me my sharing an alternate track for this scene that occurred to me the moment I first viewed this movie Stateside: "Sunday Morning" from Benjamin Britten's Four Sea Interludes. For other scenes, "Dawn", "Storm", and the passacaglia that's effectively the fifth interlude.
Immensely enjoyable!
Disney should be proud of this and embarrassed by what they put out recently.
Reminds me of a similar spaceship flyby scene in ANOTHER science fiction movie that just happened to come out in 1979...
Which one would that be, o cryptic one?
@@Hjerte_Verke Its initials are ST: TMP...
spaceballs........ :D
@@RandomNameLastName811 It's Star Trek TMP - with its famous five-minute fly-past of the redesigned Enterprise. Starship Porn!
This isn't the music used on the DVD at this point. Instead the more repetitive main theme. I'd like my money back.
this tune makes me think of moonraker, i know know why, same composer
Lol @1:57 when V.I.N.cent's head pops up.
Who?
@@cygnustsp oh my bad I meant V.I.N.cent. you can see him at 1:35 also. I'll correct that thx!
Was this the first ghost ship flyby in a film? So many other films did it since.
Sorry this is the corridor scene theme from the movie where is the one shown in this video?
Come on, Disney, this movie needs a restoration! I'm pretty sure the blacks in this scene are supposed to be deep black.
apart from the stupid comedy robots, for disney this was a really dark film
Love this film,but there is a flaw with the ship.when the ship passes the back of the Cygnus there are two antenna on the underside of the ship 1 left and 1 right.then on shots after there is only 1 dead centre on the underside.
I like music symphonie
I heard there's going to be a remake of this film.
The ship is way too fragile appearing for deep space travel.
V'GER
So Event Horizon was kinda a rip off. The black hole DRIVE ship with Morpheus as captain.