The Only Rapper Who Made Eminem APOLOGIZE
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2023
- Eminem, widely regarded as one of the greatest rappers of all time, has earned a reputation for being unapologetic throughout his career. Known for his controversial and often explicit lyrics, Eminem has consistently pushed boundaries and challenged societal norms through his music. However, there was one instance where he chose to apologize...
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"Who took home the W?" This is what's wrong with a LOT of things today. NOBODY took a "W" or an "L" in this because it wasn't a competition. They're two adults. Two successful artists. They had an argument and then solved it. Not every situation in life is about winning or losing.
Spoken like someone that takes a lot of Ls
@bigFatPaulie83 Well aren't you just the most clever piece of trash in the trailer patk.
I agree with the first part, but it wasn't really an argument. It was Tyler expressing his opinion, the Eminem turning around and going "Fuck you faggot". Like that's just one sided beef, and tbh, really fucked up.
It's not that deep
@@Ted_Sheckler spoke like someone who is immature and taking the biggest "L's" in life.
Em actually acknowledges this in his song "No Regrets"
"I can make a mistake and erupt and end up takin' a dump. Or sayin' some dumb shit, thinkin' I run shit Misplacin' my anger enough to give Earl and Tyler, The Creator the brunt"
Where he basically says that he was so pissed off at a lot of people talking shit at the time that he thought Tyler and Earl Sweatshirt's comments were also with the intent to diss him, but then he realizes than that wasn't the case.
ye also em on sway he that he actually liked tyler and earl ,and thought they we re cool,they hanged around and made jokes for them to talk shit on the internet,yk that s not cool you get pissed off i mean you talk with somebody then they talk shit is not cool
@@spiridonrobert16 that’s only how Eminem viewed it
Anyone other than Eminem and his Stans saw what Tyler said as CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM
And on the flip side of those comments. Tyler will big up Eminem at almost any time he comes up in discussion. The dude LOVES Eminem. He just ain’t walking around eggshells with the man
@@amanSpawn00 nah not only how em viewed,is not constructive criticism when you just call things trash dude😂 like tyler did with shady xv or walk on water cause those we re literally the reasons why em picked up on tyler and ik tyler loves em but still that s just hate at that point when you get on twitter and say,,oh that shit is trash,,constructive criticism is when you explain why you don t like it explain what he should be better so please don t be ingorant cause it s still not cool when you hang with somebody then thast guy hops on twitter and say your things are trash
same with revival that shit mostly got slander not constructive criticism also let s not even talk about how people starte saying ,,but we miss the old em or his rage,,then dropped kamikaze like what people been asking from him and then they started saying ,,why em is always angry,,that s HYPOCRISY
@@spiridonrobert16 and he did in an interview. Tyler doesn’t detail things in tweets or social media posts
So he said those comments and then radios wanted to ask him in-depth what he meant
But a real homie will tell you straight up if shit is trash or not. That’s what I got out of Tyler’s comments
And again, this isn’t the first time nor the last time Em will get comments he finds negative
And I find it mad sensitive that he’s this way despite going through LITERAL riots against his shit by the LGBT movement
"Shoulda never made a response to the disdain, for the fake ones
Them traitorous punks, 'cause snakes are just ....
They can get ...... with eight hundred mother.... vibrators at once. " No regrets he dissed Tyler and Earl harder not being angry at them
I really don't think Tyler was "two-faced" at all, just because you see someone as an idol, doesn't mean you have to like every single they do, I think out of his love for Eminem he made those tweets and I really don't see it as two-faced to dislike an album, he doesn't have to worship every album just because he idolises Em
facts bro, this vid is pointless
Same shit with MGK. Difference is, MGK killed Marshall
@@rh4709 💀💀mgk is terrible lmao what, eminem made mgk turn from rap into gay emo rock
Exactly what I came here to say.
Actually, openly expressing an honest opinion is pretty much the opposite of being two faced no?
@@Xtennsion His rock albums sold more than Em's last rap album, but go off king
everyone complaining how Em changed when he got sober... i know with my personal experience with major addiction to opiates who is now sober and have been for years, i know what it can do to you. so when he got sober, he literally was a different person, his brain chemistry literally changed. i LOVE slim shady n how hard n raw he was, but i also LOVE being able to watch his growth as a person and artist n no matter how many "flops" he has, ill always be a Stan.
best comment I've read so far. It's so true, what you said about getting sober. I was terrified of the person who was gonna emerge when I finally did the deal and got my shit back in line. It's a scary transformation
louaista is the type of guy that extends a twitter drama to 11 minutes of content.
hahaha yeah i am. i like go by the saying "a tweet is worth a million words"
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@@louaista”here comes the money”
@@louaista nah thats actually fire props to you my guy thats some real talent no joke lmfao
@@louaistastop making things complicated bro
I know for most of my life, I would immediately get defensive when receiving criticism and it wasnt until my mid 30s (I'm 42 now) that I learned to receive criticism with as much grace as I would receive praise.
It was one of the most difficult character flaws I've ever learned to overcome and I think that's because I had to be completely honest with myself and unlearn reactionary behavior that was deeply rooted in me from a young age.
Once I got there, I realized that the insight gained from criticism is just as valuable as insight gained from praise.
Once you apply that correction to the specific aspect being scrutinized, it will result in positive growth.
I think Tyler is such a big fan of Em and has so much respect for him that he didn't want to do him the disservice of giving him biased, dishonest feedback.
For me personally, I respect honesty and uncompromising integrity in someone's feedback or crtique; it's genuinely helpful and impactful for someone who strives toward positive growth.
Now, for someone like Eminem, I can only imagine that struggle, to learn and grow, amplified by 1000%.
The fact that he realized his mistake and acknowledged it is impressive and extremely uncommon for someone at the top of their profession.
Much respect for both Tyler the Creator and the G.O.A.T. Eminem.
well put 👍
I got great respect for you.
To take a quick quote out from the mitchell's vs the machines "this man has found a way to override his programming" lol ok something like that I believe one the robots said
However, Em is a great Rapper and lyricist, IMO 10× more talented than Drake. He isn't my goat, but he has my respect.
Eminem didn't apologize to Tyler. He said that maybe he shouldn't have dissed him, but still...no regrets.
He literally said I just crossed the line
@@sethbertrand3343 that's called acknowledging a mistake, not apologizing. The two things aren't synonymous.
@@spaced4433 Acknowledging a mistake is probably the biggest part of an apology. saying sorry just because the public is angry doen't really cut it. It doesn't matter if he didn't explicitly say sorry, just acknowledging the mistake that he made is so much better
@@mclama1139 I agree, saying sorry / regretting it is just a symptom
@@mclama1139 imo an apology wasn't needed to begin with. As for doing things because the public is angry, fuck 'em, they'll be angry regardless and you'll never please them.
you also didn't prove me wrong. All you said was it can be a part of an apology, and it can. Its important to add acknowledgement of a mistake into an apology to show sincerity, but what i said still isn't wrong.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again…Em’s biggest haters are also his biggest fans. Look at MGK, Budden, Earl, Game etc. It’s fine, I get it, I also wanna tell Em what he should do, how he should sound, what producers to use and who he should collab with. At the end of the day we’re all a bunch of selfish fans
Facts, this also the case for some other artist
i mean mgk was literally a stan and somehow literally ended like him ,from loving to hate on him and rap devil being like the ending from the stan where he throw himself off the brigde and exactly em can t please everyone he even said it if he drops smth political and not slim shady some fans will like it others will hate it if he gets back to being angry and the slim the same,at the end of the day em just does what he wants to do and we should be happy that he s still around not retired or dead like other legends ,if em would ve died from that overdose today everyone would ve accepted his status and also twitter is not a real place
I know I can attest to me being a huge fan and a huge hater at the same time.
@@breejordon6042 is kinda weird to love and hate a guy at the same time but at least you can give bro his props :)
I mean there's a difference between tyler and earl just not liking his newer music and mgk being straight up nasty about his daughter
When you love someone you want them to stay the way they were when you met them but people grow and change. Being famous is tough, you’re livelihoods and reputation Is dependent on you finding a way to stay exactly the same without getting boring. Crazy
Okay?
@@assassin8636fym okay😭😭
He didn't MAKE him do anything, he just knew he was wrong in that instance.
eminem is not gon fw you bro
Bro stop Stanning so hard, its the same thing
Its literally the same thing dude
stop blowing him off bro he does not know u
@@haadyabdul1683 is not staning is true :)it still not an apologize also tyler didn t make him apologize em actually liked tyler lol
I think Tyler and Eminem should just give each other a real hug 😔
Em ain't with tagat gei $hit
@@derrick1511Well, maybe he should man the f*ck up and hug the boy anyways. Him being such a baby is why people don't respect the guy anymore.
@@sporeham1674 says the one who just bleeped himself
@themealbuddies7676
Probably due to youtube deleting comments with certain words etc.
Gotta love that Eminem dissed Tyler so deeply that even Em felt he did him too dirty 😂
The diss wasn’t even all that great tho. He just said a slur because he was angry 💀
@@gprada Tyler apparently thought it was a really harsh diss. But then again that sounds like Tyler, he's very much the type to respond to a diss with "you owe me an apology."
@@ThatGirlMisty LMAOOO when you put it like that you’re right
@@ThatGirlMisty Tyler weren't bothered why the cap
@@ThatGirlMisty dumbasshoeswholistentoraparetheworst
He still made it clear in the beginning of the song called NO REGRETS that he wouldn't change anything
yeah but he also said "Misplacin' my anger enough to give Earl and Tyler, The Creator the brunt"
@@czubimane welp ye he said in the sway interview he actually liked tyler and earl ,he hanged with them just for them to say shit about him ,yk it s not cool you get pissed off,i mean you talk with someone you re cool then they talk shit behing your back
@@czubimane He just meant that he shouldn’t have rage out on traitors.
he was probably reffering to his career and all the controversies he caused with his songs and violent lyrics tho
@@spiridonrobert16take the L
Relapse was fucking EPIC!! 🔥
Was asssssssss cheeks
Nah, it was good, aye legit. Haha, and I don't watch porn that often, bruh. Lol I think he did well with the Album. Some of the lyrics on that album are insane!!
@@Elijah67437 haha cooked bruh!!
@Elijah okay lemme see repúlase was a horror core album with catchy super lyrical content still providing his opinions but experiences u prob are going of popular opinion like those popular opinion cock riders
The thing about Em that people don’t talk about enough is how incredibly hilarious he is. Tyler is the same way. Both are brilliant and a couple of the funniest people
It’s amazing to me hearing people call any of his work bad walk on water was one of the best songs EVER. Just because it was different don’t hate on it. Damn people one day he will be gone then everyone will miss his shit.
None of them took the W imo. I can see why Tyler was saying this type of stuff cuz the realest homies are always the ones that are real with you
but i feel like instead of doing it when you both have a huge fan base and kind of humiliating your homie you would talk to them privately
@@amal-wo2ww he didn’t humiliate him though. He gave an honest critique. As he felt Marshall was the same way. Speaking what was really on his mind and not giving a fuck if anyone took offense to it. He literally commented on the albums like Eminem would if he was seeing it from the outside in
The problem is? The world and the media got so SOFT due to everyone bending to PC culture. That somehow THIS sounds offensive when it’s anything BUT that
YEAH when you do it on a phone call or private conversation not on twitter
@@Alexis_7 well ENINEM hasn’t been too private about his opinions either as much as I love him other people just as much as him have the right to have their own opinions and post them online (legal opinions ofc nothing threatening something or someone) em should’ve reached out to Tyler we gotta remember when you put music out everyone’s opinion will be out and he should’ve asked about it a little Tyler wasn’t trying to be condescending just a bit critical of it the whole thing could’ve easily been avoided culture is changing and people are softening up but em knows it isn’t 2002 and he can’t be saying that shit unless he wants gen z on his back tryna cancel him I love him so much but trust me gen z is super petty and soft they’ll find a way to cancel him I’m not even sure how they haven’t even done so yet 😂 but the whole feud wasn’t much just could’ve been mature about it
@@exposingyoutubers727 so youre telling me em cant name drop in a song with enough reason but tyler can leave his opinion about a legend that apreciets him back on tt?
i loved walk on water, it showed how human eminem was, honestly i think it was fans being salty that he sobered up, became way more complicated and technical with lyrics, to where he started seeming inhuman and the fans lost relatability, he changed from being a hood rat to a chilled out mellow man, dude just grown up while his fnbase didnt due to their atmosphere, and life comlications, it hurt his fans, they couldnt relate to who he became, and became salty, but i appreciated his change as if he didnt, he would of literally died, its a blessing he is still here making music, people need to learn to appreciate what we still have rather then dwell on the past, my favorite album is honestly relapse as its the last time we got wild crazy gangster slim shady, but i still love his new stuff as his skill is unbelievable , he makes great music now and back them, people just get too attached to one thing and wont let it go, feeling like the newer is an imposter trying to replace what they hold dear. , mad respect to both forms as both were masterpieces whether old fans want to accept it or not,
Lord it's not that deep 😂
People just angry Em grow up. How long people want him to be angry slim shady ?
You are probably 100% correct. That's kinda the vibe I've gotten from people who don't like his newer stuff; they just want more of the same and aren't willing to expand their musical interest.
When I go back and listen to his older stuff and compare it to his newer stuff, it's blatantly obvious that Eminem has grown as an artist and shows increased technical skill, wisdom, and intellectual nuance.
When you're, not only the best at what you do, but appear to be superhuman at times, people will try to find flaws that may or may not exist; either out of jealousy or inability to comprehend.
The intellectually challenged human beings of the world, unfortunately make up the majority of human beings of the world.
He wouldn't of died!! Stop being so dramatic!!
@@jeffreyval9665 he's referring to Em getting sober. If he hadn't, it would have killed him. In that context, it's not dramatic at all to suggest that he would have died had he not made changes to better himself.
Bro you have a way with making me listen to your stories back to back WELL DONE
Tyler is the only rapper you can’t stay mad at
Bro been grinding lately on the long forms 🔥 keep it up!
thanks man! you as well! we're making it out the hood 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Tyler was just speaking his mind like Eminem does what's the problem
The problem is that someone ur brining on a tour with u, and 4-5 months later ur music is getting trashed publicly, where literally nobody asked about ur opinion either, and this was the first time Tyler trashed Em which was in 2014. In 2017 Tyler did it again. Go read those tweets. After that u should go hear what Em had to say. It was well deserved from Em’s side.
@@yousafshady no it wasn’t, it was another time where Eminem got mad sensitive about someone talking on him
Which is perfectly fine. But then him and his fans act like that’s not the case
Sounds more like after being a star for so long, he forgot what it was like to be honestly critiqued and not had the blow softened cuz of how much Tyler respected Eminem
@@amanSpawn00 Wtf are u talking about? I’m talking about the main reason why Eminem choosed to diss Tyler. He didn’t let him slide the second time he run his ahh to Twitter.
@@amanSpawn00 Em has always been the idgaf guy since day one and he will respond to u no matter who u are or how much u lowkey respect him.
@@yousafshady I’m saying none of that was ‘well deserved’
Tyler gave his critique like a good friend would
Furthermore, he said it on an open platform. Cuz like Jay Z. It’s hard to contact the main man. So he put it where it would easily be seen by Eminem. And figured since Em has that idgaf attitude. He would draw from the comment what Tyler meant and not take offence to it
Eminem then TOOK OFFENCE to it and dissed him up and down on a song
Again, being MAD SENSITIVE. Which is fine as long as you accept it. It takes a real man to accept what he is despite what he portrays
Eminem backtracked and then gave a sob story about ‘friends backstabbing him’ when that wasn’t the case at all
Ergo, tryna garner sympathy for him basically throwing a temper tantrum on beat
Again, had he simply accepted it like shit maybe I jumped the gun, it would’ve all been fine
It’s like if I bitch slapped you then when we meet the next day. I act like that wasn’t the case. I’m sorry but that’s some beta male shit. Or at the very least, some mad sensitive shit
And seeing as how Eminem had LGBT riots against him in the past. This should feel like nothing
Especially coming from Tyler. Someone who was so inspired by Em but didn’t jack his style. Rather he let Eminem influence him to create his own style of Hip Hop within the genre and culture
Remember, just like Eminem, Tyler wasn’t accepted in Hip Hop or the media
He’s someone who would understand Eminem’s position more than anyone
Tyler did make ‘em apologize, he realized what he did and apologized.
Tyler addressed the situation the most Em way possible. Just because someone is your idol doesn't mean you have to back everything they do. If anything that tweet is what Em needed.
True, respected idols need to handle criticism.
Tyler continued to go on complaining about ems work every time he was interviewed it was more than criticism
I think Tyler the creator clearly had a strong impact on Em and that Em respected him. So when Tyler did this yeah it hurt but I think sometimes seeing past the hurt and looking back at it, I personally think Em would thank him for pushing him to do better because it worked. Em definitely should have apologized for that slur he knows it wasn't even a good or legit comeback and he was trying. Can't hate on Tyler for speaking the truth.
I dont think the issue was him saying the song/album was bad. I think the issue was that instead of it being recieved in a DM or a phone call, saying hey man I don't feel this. It was instead repeatedly put on social media. If your boy is messing up you're going to sit him down and have a talk about it. Not post on his facebook or instagram.
@@Stephen_Vieleit’s hard to say like yeah he should’ve hit him up when honestly idk how many artists could be on that wavelength to even say something direct to him that’s negative. Many artists idolize him and he rarely reciprocates. So if you ain’t close enough to hang out outside of work how tf you gunna be like Marshall I know you’re the goat but this shit is fucking trash. Imagine a bench player telling jordan bro Wtf you went 5/30 with 3 turnovers. my grandma could do better. Just retire already
Bro let's face it, Em comes from a time where that was normal. He doesn't regret shit, he's just saving face because he angered an entire group of people. He probably could not give 2 shits about Tyler.
Also, this problem where musicians who make anger-driven music lose their touch is pretty common in metal. Slipknot and Korn are prime examples. It's hard to stay angry when you are living your dream and making millions in the process, and that unfortunately translates into their music.
Tyler better
Um what are you saying here?
@@assassin8636 Em is not sorry he dissed Tyler. He's sorry he could've gotten a lot of backlash from the lgbt community. I'm not saying he's homophobic, but he for sure doesn't mind slurs.
@@cako666 I don't know em that well
@@cako666 Em has been getting backlash throughout his entire life, he doesn't care, but he knows he maybe crossed the line when dissing Tyler
I think we got to listen to songs of a person growing up going through stages of life and it's really priceless learning experience that anyone can pick up. Much love
bro think hes sunnyv2
He’s better
Not the Australian AI channel
Yeah I like him better than sunnyv2
@@beckyg.9087AI?
I think em was just mad at the time but he took Tyler words to hart and saw what he ment and that he wasn't really trying to be harmful
He also apologized to Rihanna because a old song where he says stuff about her got leaked
Tyler still proclaims his love for em. They’re still good. I really hope at some point we get em and T
I really don't see how voicing your opinion whether good or bad makes someone 2 faced ? Its honesty and respect .
Bro em just felt he was wrong in that instant nothing more nothing less
Bruh I thought Walk On Water was fantastic. It's a true look into his heart. Doesn't need to be him spitting rhymes like he was as a 20 year old, 24/7.
I just wish RiRi was on it instead of old girl
For Em to apologize, I think that question answers itself….sometimes we make mistakes. He’s a GOAT and man enough to own it.
No he only apologized because he called Tyler fake gay and then em did an interview with Elton saying he’s bigger than that so em apologized it was all for LGBT nonsense
@@behappybemad2828fuck are you yapping about
The fact that Em apologized to Tyler just says that he still appreciates Tyler as a long-term supporter. And he's evolving as a man.
Also, Idgaf what anyone says, the BET freestyle was dope. ✊🏽
Tyler wasn’t two-faced by not liking his stuff. Just because you’re friends with someone doesn’t mean you have to like everything they make and doesn’t mean you can’t say something about it. It’s moronic to pose the question “does this guy deserve to be called a slur for not liking a song?” Of course he doesn’t deserve it it’s a song, you’re not required to like songs, and the songs he disliked were widely disliked, so it’s not any kind of betrayal.
Tyler didnt make em apologize em felt bad for dissing him😂
I didn't care about anything in this vid, but Eminem apologising to an OG Rapper...Now that's respect.
woah woah woah, you don't have to raise your voice
"did Tyler get what he deserved by dissing eminem"
Bro em called him a literal slur 💀nobody deserves that shit
Well I’m pretty sure they made up
@@exposingyoutubers727 No, Eminem actually said the slur.
@@roycepierson9297 that's exactly what he calls himself, that's why Em said "I see why you call yourself a f###ot " , he still muted the word on the song and said he shouldn't have put it on the track as in his quest to hurt him, he could be hurting a lot more listeners, people are far to soft nowadays.
Walk on water is a classic! Like he said...even wen he puts out trash he still gets the bag.
I don't think Tyler was two faced at all. Dude is just really honest. People's feelings get hurt when you're honest. Plain and simple.
This was a very good breakdown....I think it's just a progression of 2 guys having an issue seeing eye to eye, and gradually gettin it together
I won't lie, I actually hated Revival whenever it first dropped (mind you I was 12 at the time of it's release). But after taking a random notion to listen to it, I actually took somewhat of a liking to it after a few years (when I was 16). It's definitely not his best project, although it does have some good songs on it in my opinion, those being Believe, River, Nowhere Fast, Offended, In Your Head, Castle, and Arose.
You have to be musically inept if you think River and Believe are good songs
castle and aros shouldve been left for a better album, way too good to have been wasted on revival
Eminem realized his mistake they've stopped "the beef" tyler didint take a W Eminem just realized what he said was wrong and said sorry
He never said sorry and he don’t need to
@@yousafshady he did not apologize directly like “Tyler I’m sorry” but he realized it wasn’t right he should’ve because that’s his friend but they’re in good terms now I’m pretty sure
@@yousafshady it’s like ure tryna make ppl perceive em as a man child lmfao
Tyler wasn’t 2 faced he was honest in times needed to be, but some people can’t take Criticism the best especially when many refer him to be one of the best. It makes sense in both shoes but Tyler was upfront we need more pple like him
I have always loved Eminem's music, regardless of all drama about bad albums and whatever, he has definitely been a source of inspiration for the music that I create, I have enough self restraint to make the choice that the world doesn't need negative music and I don't want to give the impression that I'm a bad person for the dark subject matter in some of my tracks but I need to say that if it wasn't for Eminem's music that I wouldn't have been able to express what goes on in my head, but those tracks I keep private and I don't share them with the world, for example, I don't post them on soundcloud or any sort of social media, whether that's youtube, or any other outlets like that, just because I don't want to give a bad example of who I am or what I believe in.
“What Tyler said was messed up” bro he was criticizing him for making a shitty project it’s not like backstabbed him by doing that either it’s like your friends saying “hey dude that drawing sucked” but you know he’s joking but being a little serious just because Em was one of Tyler’s idols doesn’t devoid him from criticism from Tyler
He also apologized in yellow bricks road but made an even more controversial statement the second after💀
Tyler loves em so much and has so much respect for him to tell him "aye bro your album ain't it it ain't you" em respectfully so was mad at everyone hating on his album that he took things too personally and that he crossed the line by calling Tyler the f word so he simply acknowledged his wrong doing and accepted it wasn't right and felt he needed to clear the air about it. The two in my opinion have mutual respect for one another
Why say the f word in a song made past 2017 you're asking for it bro
People complaining about Revival because it's "too political" & "tackled social issues" are just people who have never grown up. If you're a rapper and you're still rapping about the same shit when you're 40 that you did when you were 20, then you have literally haven't grown mentally or emotionally.
its not about the content tbh, his political freestyle was trash from a rap theory standpoint altogether. the entire rhyme scheme was weak when you break it down, very short repeated rhyme setups with no evolution in the entire thing. Em was known for pushing what could be done with a rhyme scheme, creating many flows that a lot of rappers have made their entire flow. Em now isnt really pushing for the sake of hiphop anymore, he just pushing for clout.
@@IVIUT3D
Huh??
Are we listening the Same??
His flow on EPMD2 rivals anything from then till now, especially that last dizzying flow
@@IVIUT3D a lot of people simply missed the more intricate things, for example, chloraseptic is very often criticised for the flow fighting the beat but he makes it very clear at the start that he is riding the high-hats
People in the U.S weren't ready hear that they have to work together to fix their problems. But it performed par for the course everywhere else and was the best selling album Christmas time in the U.K 2017
Oh you THINK THAT’S the issue people had with Revival?😂😂😂 oooooh buddy buddy BUDDY! That ain’t it chief
The reason it’s hated on is due to the PRODUCTION. Which, in turn, severely affected Eminem’s lyrics. Was the message there? Yes. However, due to Eminem playing off what he got from the terrible production and mixing, people couldn’t hear the message
And at that point, it doesn’t matter what he was saying. Cuz to anyone outside of Eminem’s fan base, it’s UNLISTENABLE
Nobody complained about Eminem attacking social issues
In fact he should do that MORE. The problem was the production which in turn affected the lyrics. Em writes not only to be complex, but to play off the feeling he gets FROM the beats
If you rap over terrible production, what do you think happens to the lyricism when you’re playing off of that?
Kamikaze had a ton of the production that woulda changed the Revival album for the better
@@amanSpawn00 even if the beats were all terrible, the worst it can get from bad beats alone is 8/10
Sadly most fans don't understand the origin of beats in rap and that many beats were made to be unlistenable to push away casual listeners when discussing serious topics
I feel Tyler shouldn’t have posted his opinion online if he really cares about him , why didn’t he approach him and advise him privately
Ong
No. If something was wrong I would like for my friends to tell me.
@@curlyhairboiakabaddude8922 Would you like them to message/call you or would you like them to post that shit on social media. What Tyler did was disrespectful af for someone your supposed to be cool with...
@ 4:14 This May be a hot take but the ‘ex-lacks’ line is the only bar on the song River that I didn’t like, all the rest are fine. One bar in particular from that song which I don’t understand the flack for is the Spider-Man bar ‘so she’s been on the web lately, says maybe she will be my Gwen Stacy, to spite her man’, the ‘spite her man’ part obviously sounds like Spider-Man, which links in with the Gwen Stacy line and also the fact that she was on the web. I’m making this point because I’ve seen people use this particular line as an example of how bad the writing is on that album but I actually think that particular line is actually good.
"made" is strong word. Tyler just criticised him, em didnt like it but realised he was in the wrong. Nobody made him
Those who hate Em publicly… secretly love him
Tyler publicly said that he loves Em and said Em is a inspiration, don't talk ever again please.
If Tyler really respected Em as a friend, he would have just told him in privately when they hung out. Not make a huge announcement to the world. He had to have known Em was going to say something eventually. Isn’t that one of the reasons why Em was on of Tyler’s Idols? Because Em wouldn’t hold back towards shit? Em is only at fault in a lot of peoples eye’s because the times are different. If we went back 20 years ago and Em said some of the shit he was saying now, people would eat it up. I’m not on anyone’s side, but I feel like saying that should be a no brainer…. 😟
Dude Tyler is a kid he was doing what kids do
A few people iterated the fact that Tyler seeing Em as an idol doesn't grant Em cart-blanche to make whatever project and have his fans lick it off the floor. Tyler genuinely respects Em and all the tweets shown in the video never said "Em, YOU'RE trash", they only called the song/album trash or bad or not the same. It's Tyler basically saying "Bro, I KNOW FOR A FACT you have it in you. You've done it before. I KNOW you can do it again." It's the delivery that could be called into question.
As to who won? There is no win or lose here.
I don't think Tyler was being 2faced like you said in the video at 11:01 he looked up to Eminem and if you have status in the industry like Tyler has, you're gonna be heard. Every artist receives backlash at some point in their career and Eminem got it from Tyler and a bunch of other people as well.
I don't think eminem had to apologize because people got mad at him but i respect him for doing it
tylers first 3 albums have some inpseration form enimems alter ego since he has his own egos like doctor tc and wolf
Like your content keep it up
I think I met you at The Screaming Porpoise in Alabama right for the Frogstock Festival right?
Classic Tyler W
EMINEM Definitely my top 5 because he works so hard but he needs more Dr Dre melman and 45 king production thats the Eminem i miss
Em apologized on Iggy too. As Em fan, he was wrong about that Rape bar.
I think it’s the fact that Em probably has his opinions too but doesn’t come out and publicly trash someone else’s work, like Joe and Tyler did. I think if Tyler didn’t like the shit, he has the right to say what he wants, but he’s also free to keep it to himself. If Em came out and said Tyler’s album was trash, that would hurt.
What’s the name of the song playing in the background during the interview?
Shady XV has some really great tracks on it. Its a good album in my opinion.
Same
Good video as always
imagine calling someone out for quitting drugs
Hell yea great work man! I love relapse. Probably because I like Shady more than Eminem by far.
That apology was needed. You can have beef with someone, but going so far as to calling them slurs is way too wrong
Em was my go to MC when I was a teenager. Like 24/7 Em & D12 albums on repeat.
Then I guess growing older you start to realize that he's the god of techniques but his content is mid. Even when he tries the social political stuff, it never hits you like a Kendrick or J Cole track would.
I still enjoy a good bar by bar breakdown of any new song Marshall drops, but that's all I listen to... Just one time for the "wow" and then move on to anything else 🤷🏻♂️😔
I don't think Em needs to do it differently. I think his fan base just grew older and might not be too much into his style no more. And teenagers these days are not into Eminem at all 😥
Those 2 guys you mentioned look up to Eminem. He's going down as one of the GOATs.
@@milaninter2442 he didn't say they didn't or he isn't?
@@Antwannnn Okay?
@@milaninter2442 okay? sooo wtf was the point in bringing it up? Get Ems balls out your mouth for just sec
Ab-Soul instrumental in the background 🔥🔥🔥
Ed Sheeran is not pop, he's Grime 4 life.
Well, Eminem never apologised for nothing to noone. What he said in that interview with Sway was that he was angry for what Tyler has been saying against Eminem and that album, and since he never expected Tyler to make fun of Eminem's work, he was in dilemma. Hence, he said what he said. Infact, Em has always praised Tyler for his creativity and work since the beginning. He didn't like/wanted spiting bars against Tyler, but had to do what he did in that song because of Tyler's double role and standard.
He never apologised, nor he said SORRY. He just made it clear why he replied Tyler in his song. That's it !
Um what? What are you talking about?
He didnt make Em apologize, he just made em overreact and tweak out on him, feel bad and offer a retraction later
ye he also said in the interview on sway that he basically liked earl and tyler
kamizaze and tha carter 5 came out around the same time and got me through the roughest time in my life. forever two of the closest albums to my heart
If music is enough to "endanger" anything, be that somebody's mental health, or someone's faith in their religion, then that person was unhinged and soft to begin with
I liked some of the songs on Revival because they were human as fuck. It's easier to appreciate the artistry in a project without the bias goggles of being a long-time super-fan used to one style. Anyone who hated Walk on Water either isn't an artist and can't relate ipso facto isn't the target audience for it, or is an artist but a narsisistic one. In a profession, any artistic profession, audible or visual, if you don't believe you're the best you'll never be the best. If you don't understand the pressure that comes with, famous or not, then you don't need to be knocking that track. That track hit me HARD. I'm a visual artist by profession and I feel that impostor syndrome and blank-canvas syndrome and self-hatred every single day that I don't kill it with a new life-altering piece.
Relax guys I like gay men right Ken gimme an Amen😂
Amennn
Thank you for answering the question in the first 30 seconds/thumbnail so I don't have to watch the whole video!!!
It was not one of the worst albums of all time. That’s a reach. Revival may not be your thing but it’s not bad.
No it’s bad
it is truly HORRIBLE
revival is one of the worst hip hop albums that's from a big artist I've ever heard. not counting shitty soundcloud rappers and tom macdonald it's bottom 3
It is definitely a bad album
just look at the numbers . its doing pretty good
no matter what he says you cant cancel Eminem
I love the Illuminate instrumental in the background
How you leave out the "sack-religious" part???? genius
Those who didn’t understand the Revival album were disappointed that Em wasn’t just talking about himself personally in his music for once and turned out a social commentary like album. They don’t like hearing about themselves, they want to listen to Em to get away from themselves.
I still don't understand why nobody want their favourite artists to grow
I mean they've to, there's nothing they can do
No one can win. Can't change or you'll be labeled as a sell out. Can't stay the same or people get bored and then you start getting people calling you a sellout because you're a whatever year old trying to cash in on your early career.
Tyler da one going backwards
Okay but are we gonna at least respect Royce da 5.9 for the support he puts into Eminem, just wow
Once you make "fuck you" money, you can make whatever album you want. He did just that. I respect it.
Marshal "Wanted" to apologize but he got slim shady in his head saying "No APOLOGIZE" remember this is one of Eminem's songs. Guilt with no remorse is a powerful weapon.
I thought this was a SunnyV2 video bc of the Thumbnail photo 😂
Giving feedback is not dissing, so I don’t think Tyler was being two-faced. Even after the slur, Tyler still said he loves M.
I agree but industry’s like this are weird so for them another high artist openly “trashing” things could have a negative affect short term and long term. Plus em looked at it wrong in the beginning he didnt take it as feedback but saw it as someone who openly says he was a fan and looked up to him should be the last person to openly trash his product is how he personally took it. He realized that and apologized but imagine if it was vice versa if eminem said that about any artist below him it could potentially ruin their career so yes it is feedback and opinions but when you are at a high standard your public opinion could greatly affect that person career. Now tyler wouldnt have that affect on em but realistically another main stream person should give there feedback privately especially if they know each other. Its better to have a conversation then just publicly say something and not have words with the person.
They both are really talented artists but there audiences that they attract in my opinion are vastly different at that time Tyler’s image much more colorful and vibrant from merch to scenes in videos and album cover designs etc, if you ask me I think they both took Ws in the end due to conversations being sparked even if negativity fuels those talks, The Responses given from either gives the media coverage regardless which In turn with good music later helps boost image and then album sales and more Growth also since they are so different it’s makes you think now they could be learning from each other.
I think its all fair game for both sides. Two men speaking their mind and being vocal about their feelings. It's okay. Sometimes people get hurt. Sometimes we say things we don't mean, sometimes we say things we mean and regret them later. It's just part of life. I do feel like both Em and Tyler have love for each other at the end of the day though. Wouldn't be surprised if they collab at some point one day.
He knew he was wrong, but I don’t think he would’ve apologized to anyone. Tyler definitely has respect for sure
Eminem apologized for something he knew he should’ve, Tyler is stating honest opinions, that’s it
Did he REALLY apologized?!🤔
yea
Naw
Em a 🐐 he should take notes lmfao 🤣
Bro, I dont understand how people can take a work of art and bash some shit that a man put so much of himself into. Mfers just dont like to hear the truth or be made to think when they dont wanna. Revival was one of the most artistic albums he put out. I feel like most hip hop heads can appreciate it. Look back at it it a decade. Or actually listen to it with an open mind. People get into boxes and get comfortable . When someone opens the lid they freak out. I loved revival.
Bruh revival was a crime against humanity. That shit was 🗑️
exactly revival is not em best work just inconsistent it has some good songs but people hated just cause it was political and not the rage em has:)))and hahahaha that s exactly what happened to relapse when it came out it was hated now it is considered an underground classic
Honestly revival is better than 99% of rap albums ever made
If there is no criticism there will be no evolution in music , I get that some people just blindly follow the popular opinion about these albums but if someone genuinely thinks that the songs are bad they should have the right to express their opinion no matter how ambitious the project is.
@@stonish9328 you must not have listened to very many then