Worked at a coal fired power plant for many years. The amount of dust coming from the rail cars is determined by the quality, fineness and whether or not the coal went through a wash before loading the train. Also depends on the distance from the mine in which it was loaded. As the train gets farther from the mine it loses a lot of the surface dust from the top of the cars. Use a dust, mask when standing close to a loaded coal train. Great video. Keep it up.
You're very brave to be able to stand that close to watch and film a coal train for the rest of us.....take care of yourself! Your videos are very enjoyable, I wouldn't want you to expire 10 years too early from taking that bad air in
As a kid growing up in East Chicago, Indiana (1940s & 50s) I remember the endless coal trains being pulled by gigantic steam engines on their way to the coke plants in the steel mills. This brings back forgotten memories, I sware that I could smell the coal dust while watching your video. And I usually had to keep my head down or my back turned to keep the spraying coal particles out of my eyes as the trains passed by. With all the freedom and adventures we had as kids, it was a great time to be alive and grow up.
Well, in semi-rural Western PA most folks had coal burning heating and even cooking until the 50s. Folks with lots of kids and not so much money would go down to the railroad tracks looking for coal that was bounced out.
I can't just remember the coal dust forming a lump in the corner of my eye, but remember family history stories of one hundred years ago. Thanks be to God for those stories of how we got to be where we are today! 👨👩👧👦💚🍺🍻🥃🚦
@@GilmerJohn My paternal uncles 12.5 & 14 years my late dads senior would throw rocks at the steam train between Aucklands (NZ) west line Strand Rd diagonal bridge & Newmarket tunnel ( only about 500 metres of exposed track ), in return the engineer would throw coal back, the uncles would fill their pockets for their mom's coal range almost one hundred years ago now. I think the railroad caught on, how do I know this, someone bought my parents a lounge mantelpiece clock for their wedding in 1961. My late dad came from a prominent Parnell Catholic blue collar 👪 large family. My late dad was the youngest, whom passed away 25 years ago now. Dad had the superior education up to 18 years of age & became an accountant for his whole life. His brothers left school at 12, the elder one became an infantryman (WW2), the second son, an airman with the most epic stories of the entire 👪 family.
Its is an incredible,and awesome feeling to be close to a train,like the animals too,looks like they have a good home,they look happy,them beavers are amazing builders. Great video,thanks!
Only once, have I ever seen two large green plastic sewer pipes cut into a beaver dam, their inlets were placed lower than their outlets, so the water had to rise as it passes through these pipes. Supposedly, beaver are not able to "repair" their dam if they are unable to block the inlets, being placed below the water's level. Something tells me that the project was the work of our Massachusetts' Department of Environmental Protection.
Great video Jawtooth! I've never saw coal dust blow like that before! This reminds me of a story my mother in law once told me about the trains that used to come through in the area where I grew up, she said when she was a young girl sometimes after they would hang their washed clothes out on the line, the train would come through and coal soot would ruin their wash and they'd have to wash the clothes again! This was along the line off the old Lebanon Ky. Branch that ran from Lebanon to Greensburg Ky. We grew up and lived in the little community of Calvary that was along the line, sadly it's all abandoned now.
I was on a state survey crew when I was 19. They gave us a safety briefing about working anywhere near train tracks, and one thing I remember was to move away from the tracks, face the on-coming train, and watch for (and be ready to evade) any parts that came off the train. They said a loose wheel could roll a long way and do serious damage.
What a great catch. Caught one similar to this in Homestead, PA with a coal train back in the winter. Got the coal dust but it wasn't even close to how much dust blew off of this one. However, there was plenty of snow on it and that was blowing off too. Didn't get much of the coal dust as much as I did the snow. I was frozen when done! Anyway, hope you're having a great Memorial Day weekend!
Man Jaw Tooth, That Chew Chew Train was Kicking Up Some Ash! I Thought They Cleaned that Coal before Transport. Maybe they were in a Hurry and Forgot? Thanks For hanging in on The Shot though For All Of Us To See! Glad You Got Cleaned Up @ Mickey D's and Were Back On The Track. Thanks Jaw Tooth and God Bless Y'all.
I rode the caboose behind many coal trains and you didn’t want to open the doors or windows unless it had been raining. Some coal trains were worse then others.
That is wild, I am surprised that it’s even allowed to drive a train through town let alone anywhere else and not cover those cars with all of that coal dust blowing around I cannot imagine it being healthy for anyone in that town. Then again, I’ve never been in or near a coal mine but both of my grandpas did now I fully understand black-lung. In 2022 surely, those cars should have had some kind of cover to minimize the amount of dust, then again I’m probably dreaming.
@@itsjustaguy27 that would make more sense. As for the other part of my comment I realize that some locations the train rail was there long before the town (maybe) and the town was built around it. It certainly is interesting to see a train ride through the streets but I guess this would be no different than a street car doing the same thing. But yes, a spray to keep the dust down would make more sense.
That’s terrible, can’t believe why the towns adjacent to these coal trains allow this crap . Almost like working in a coal mine without a respirator. I wander if the mayor of these towns lets families and their children live near these tracks ?
Thanks so much for this, I am a great train buff and love to see them, especially the American ones from the past and present. Really cannot believe the length of these you have shown, what must be a mile or so in length possibly. Love the pets too, well done in uploading these great scenes, love this.
That's incredible to see that much dust blow off of that fast moving train. Whether the wind is primary from the weather or from the speed of the train moving into the air, that looked hazardous. Take care JT!!!
Wow, the dust. I wonder how much light the train is on arrival? There should be covers on those hoppers. Maybe time for a social movement to get this changed.
Yesterday I filmed a train derailment in Hamilton, Ohio. I am downloading the video right now. Hopefully I can have it posted tomorrow or Monday. The train derailed 2 boxcars and 2 loaded auto racks at one of my favourite filming locations in Hamilton.
Man, that coal dust was crazy! I’ve never seen anything like that before. Thanks for adding the radar gun to check speeds! It’s interesting to see how fast they’re going.
You are a truly dedicated rail fan. To chase down another coal train after the first train and drive 100 miles to see them with gas a 4+$. Awesome video
Holy Moly!! hope you send a copy to that rail company to show them someone messed up, you likely breathed it in too, gosh. That's dedication LOL Thanks always
I learned that lesson years ago with bulk lime shipped in open gondola's and a good strong wind, I was ghostly grey after. coal dust I been told can travel for miles on the wind. great video. Norfie and Chessie. Thank You.
I have experienced coal dust like that and worse watching coal trains in the Powder River Basin before they started putting a foam crust on them. Wyoming wind is fierce and the coal would come straigh off the cars. Also there was a line of coal particles all along the tracks for miles. A fine experience to get on video.
Stobe the Hobo (God rest him) always hesitated about riding coal trains, now we can see why. Imagine being stuck in a long tunnel with all that dust. Very impressive, JT!
I was born and raised in NE Pa in the coal region !!! Seeing your face after filming the coal train reminded me of the miners returning home after a day of work in the mines !!! That shot of the beaver dam was awesome !!! I have never seen one like that !!! Thx for including it !!!
That coal dust is ridiculous! They're supposed to wet the coal down at the load out so that doesn't happen. Somebody screwed up. At least you didn't get dusted from the second train. Awesome video, almost epic!
Even if they wet it when it's loading depending on the distance and temperature that water drains out and evaporates, then you have dry coal on the top .
Out west coming out of all the Powder River mines the freshly loaded coal trains pass under a sprayer that wets down each car with a water/wax solution called Dustaid. BNSF was sued by some northwestern states for water pollution caused by spillage and coal dust from moving trains.
I was just going to write about how coal cars got/get sprayed in Wyoming mines also. You beat me to it! I didn’t know about the law suit though, it’s been 40 years since I worked in the mines.
@@SerenitynPeace - there’s a difference between anthracite coal that is back east (where train is) and bituminous coal out west. Bituminous in the west has over twice as much moisture in it inherently than coal mined in the east… so a lot less dust during transportation. www.purdue.edu/discoverypark/energy/assets/pdfs/cctr/outreach/Basics8-CoalCharacteristics-Oct08.pdf
I grew up in the coal fields of West Virginia along a B&O line that had coal trains at least 5-8 per day except Sundays and never saw that before. I think a big difference was that the trains rarely exceeded 20-25 mph in my area and wind was not very heavy usually. I mean there was coal dust everywhere but it was not blowing like that. Reminds me of riding on the old steam train trips NS used to run though.
I have NEVER seen dust blow off a train like that!! VERY hazardous to breathe, also, JT. I hope your lungs were not affected too much causing you respiratory issues. You can shower and wash your clothes but you cannot wash out your lungs. I wonder if the railroad can be cited for this and if there is anything they can do to prevent this, wind or not. Stay well and keep the videos coming!
Had more fun wearing coal dust & soot riding behind 611 back in the 80’s than you did watching that coal train, but thanks for taking one for the team JT!
@@sanddabz5635 3 trips, 3 years in a row, 84, 85 & 86 when 611 was touring up thru Ohio during its first resurrection. Hanging out in the vestibules, goggles and all. We looked like reverse raccoon's by the end of the trip. Ahhh, those were the days clicking off a mile a minute behind that awesome locomotive. Then in 87 ... 1218 became alive again. Didn't ride behind it but chased it for 100 miles across Ohio. No digital cameras back then or I'd share. Have a good weekend.
I use to work in the strip mines down here in Brookwood, Alabama. I came home every day with coal dust on me . I drove a 150 ton rock truck . I thought that they sprayed a chemical on the top of the coal to keep it from doing that . I know that csx does that down here .
Thank you for another great and interesting railfan video from Southern Ohio. I love all the interesting historical facts and geography you shared. I especially enjoyed the beaver dams, my first real beaver dam. Thank you.
Normally that coal is washed at the processing plant before being loaded into cars, apparently that was unwashed coal being moved, not cool and probably violated several EPA and federal transportation regulations. And just a geographic miscue, Huntington resides in WV, not OH.
Thanks, Jaw Tooth. I have stood by many a coal train but never witnessed such a coal dust cloud before. Kind of an environmental catastrophe, especially for the neighbors downwind. It must have been a more pulverized grade of coal to be so easily lufted by the wind. Stay healthy.
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Man, the quality of your 4k videos is markedly better than your 1080-60p videos. The detail really pops out and I find myself looking at everything in the frame - text and rivets on the trains, the coal dust, even the cracks in the pavement at that closed-off crossing. I know 4k takes up a lot more space and requires a lot more time to render than lesser resolutions, but it looks so much better. You always record the best train footage to produce great content for us, and any time you can catch it in 4k is a big bonus!
I've never seen a coal train with anything like that but it does remind of what happens when tomatoes are harvested. When tomatoes are harvested and put in a truck the tomatoes on the bottom will crush and as the truck drives down the road tomato juice sprays out, this would be kind of similar to the coal dust.
Man Brian, am I glad you did this video. Ive been dying to go up to Port Clinton Pa where the Reading Northern line runs. The RN is just up the road from our Cabelas in Hamburg. Makes for a great day though Brian. Andys railroad runs the highest quality of bituminous coal in the state. His color scheme is very similar to the ole Reading one with his locomotives being domimant green with yellow trim. AND....Andy keeps his engines clean,unlike CSX. Anyway it is very windy up there in Port Clinton and I know I would get pelted with coal dust. Watch Andys trains,get a Dunkin Donuts coffee,an XL,duck into Cabelas,go to the Reading park there in Hamburg,bring your fly rod and fish for bassers in the Little Schulykill River. Hoo Haa 😊 what else could a man ask for?
That has to be a first for me, whenever it comes to that dusty coal train. Man, I've never seen a coal train kick up so much dust! I bet you felt grungy after that train finally cleared.
@@beeble2003 it was actually a wax like substance that was sprayed while the loading motion was taking place, it may still be used in the western mines that the BN brings east and as cost savings and coal demand diminishes it may very well be a thing of the past here in the USA…
@@mshum538 OK. I doubt they'd stop using it anyway. Stopping wouldn't save costs, as it means that more coal gets delivered, and the railroad gets sued less for covering the world in coal dust.
That first train, The Dross Bucket, looked like it was a fire hazard all on its own! Half the load will be gone by the time it reaches a power-station. You'd think they'd maybe put such fine dry stoor into covered hoppers! I guess they're all on grain shifting just now. It was shifting way too fast for such a dangerous load. I'm glad you don't smoke! The second coal train with the 4 loco's had 236 cars on it, give or take a couple. I've noticed the trains getting longer. Yus, the dross is not easy to shift off of the skin and then the surface of the sink! My grand-dad and his brothers were coal-merchants...granny made sure he had his own towels! Cheers Jaw Tooth. Keep Safe man!.
Wow!! Black fog! Yep I've seen it before. I worked for British Rail. We had merry go round trains, fixed sets of hoppers working in circuits. They carried slack from pit head to power stations. When the weather was dry they too left clouds of dust and bits everywhere!! Your trains are obviously much larger than ours. What I wonder is how many tons of coal they lose in transit??
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Wow look at that coal dust. 😮 I can't get over how fast those trains are traveling. Sorry you got sooted by coal dust. 75 mph ouch! Beavers build dams here to in new development areas. Thanks again for an enjoyable video.😊 Loved it so much we saw this video twice.😊
Thank you for documenting these trains, Jaw Tooth! I have never seen a coal train blowing coal dust like that first coal train. The coal particles falling off that train sounded like hail. I have seen videos of coal trains on the Union Pacific running at track speed in Iowa with no sign of coal dust. I think someone mentioned that in a comment on coal trains coming from the Powder River Coal Basin that they put a plastic coaling on the coal to keep the coal from falling off the coal cars and to keep coal dust down. I have also seen videos of Norfolk Southern coal trains running fast past the Lewistown, Pennsylvania Amtrak station with no coal dust flying or coal falling off the cars.
When they come out of the loading loop at most mines they go under a sprayer that bathes them in water. By the time they reach Iowa the crust on top hasn't broken off yet, so you don't see dust. It is a special solution branded Dustaid. Not sure what it is exactly (or how toxic it is). I think it leaves a waxy film over the coal.
I'd zap the trains from the front or from the rear. The beam is deflecting away from the gun when you shoot from a side angle. You need it to get a full return so the gun and measure it. That last train was definitely moving faster than 35.
JawTooth has always reminded me of the "Neature Walk" Meme as a kid. He loves trains like all of us but still stays down to Earth and shows us the neat things of nature.
Like the Flying Dutchman sailing ship - this train appears out of the clouds - only these clouds are coal dust! This does show how many risks JT takes to bring us these excellent videos :)
That second train had 231 wagons!! Trains letting go of that much coal dust should not be allowed through towns - that's disgusting! They cover every other wagon, why not coal? Keep up the good work, Jaw Tooth. From Brisbane, Australia.
JT, thank you for sharing! I have never seen such images! The train is surrounded by a thick cloud of coal dust with speed. It is hardly if we can distinguish it through this blackish mist! The witness who is too close can take a shower afterwards!
Another great video, Jawtooth, I lived in, Ironton, Ohio back in the 70s, Never saw a coal train have coal dust like that. But I saw many awesome trains
That coal dust dilemma is disgusting, imagine a house wife with her washing out on the line, have to wash the whole lot again ! Wonder what the council would say about the air quality for the public whilst moving in a built up area 🤔 Thanks for the video 📹 👍 Certainly illustrates the point 👉 👈 🤧👏
Yesiree Mr. Tooth that is a genuine beaver dam. I'm surprise they are so close to the road with the noise and all. My Daddy lives up north in Alabama and on his property there is a stream, and the beavers just build it up like nobody's business. They get it so there is a pool on one side so they can swim and what I see is they live inside the dam. Also you can see where they naw away at the base of trees to fell them for the dam and leave a point end sticking straight up. You can tell their teeth are sharp by the tooth marks left in the stump. Thanks for another fantastic video, we all appreciate your time and effort for our enjoyment, Thanks again.
A trucker would be fined big time for this, loads like this need to be covered. I know it's impractical to cover all of these hoppers but spraying loads with water would help.
The Coal is usually wetted down to keep the dust down. These were obviously dry. Anyway, rules are different for public Roads vs Rail Roads. The obvious reason is you don't want a truck spreading material all over a public road and creating a hazard for other drivers. Railroads have a 50ft easement to either side of the tracks for a reason.
I live in northern Ontario, Canada, north of Muskoka, on 170 wooded acres, on a lake. Where my cabin is built, there used to be a meadow, with a beaverdam separating the lake from the meadow. Beavers decided to build a pond instead of a meadow before the 1990's, guess beaver families had to expand, anyway, in 2017, part of the end dam let go, now it's back to a meadow, but can show pics of each dam. Beavers are amazing creatures.
Back in the early '90s I lived in Avon Ohio, they still had a coal fired power plant. I had just left the car wash in my white F 250 when one past me at a crossing. When they passed I turned around and went back to the car wash. " lesson learned " .
Holy crap JT! That never occurred to me either. I've seen 100's of coal trains and never had that happen! You looked like you'd just climbed up out of a mine! LOL As for "waiting 2.5 hours for a train". My grandson and I have always said, sometimes railfanning takes more patience than fishing does!!
You may have to wear safety glasses when viewing these coal cars, or at least have a pair in the truck. Thanks for the pets and the video. Happy Memorial Day! 🐕🦺🐕🙂👍🇺🇸
Great video! Thanks for braving the dust storm to show us. The coal that I've seen out west here for PG&E is larger sized and gray in color. Your 37 mph looked like 60 mph! Those are some serious fence posts for your horse! Huge
Well, you wanted a coal train. You got it. 🤣🤣 Seriously, I retired from a coal fired power plant. I know that feeling. It's not nice. Nor is the smell.
Great video as always. I grew up and still live in coal country between West Virginia and Pennsylvania along the former Monongahela railroad line. I have never personally seen that much coal and coal dust coming off of a coal train. It must have been al the right conditions, like a perfect storm to make that happen. Thank Jaw tooth for another great video!
Hello! We've been wanting to write you in FOREVER! Greg loves trains and would love nothing more than to be on the road with you, scouting them out! We both love the pets (perhaps MY fave part!), they are so healthy and happy looking! Kudos to you for adopting the kitty! She's gorgeous! 😁😻 I'm so glad we got to writing you, finally. We are from Fort Wayne, IN, but we're visiting family in Buffalo last week, where Greg grew up, and SW of Pittsburgh, where I grew up. All I had to do was position him in front of the TV at my sister's, and he was happy. He had remote in hand, and Jaw Tooth on the TV, of course! Lol! We love you, keep up the good work! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
The eco- brigade in the UK would have a heart attack at the length of that coal train. This is how absolutely ridiculous it is over here - Drax power station in England no longer burns coal, it burns wood chips as they're more "eco friendly". But the UK hasn't got enough trees to chop down, so we import willow chips from the Carolina's. They're diesel trucked down, loaded on to a diesel boat at Baton Rouge, Louisiana bound for Liverpool, unloaded, put in wagons then hauled by diesel train from Liverpool to Drax in Yorkshire. But we don't burn coal because it's not eco friendly. You just couldn't make it up!
A much more eco friendly export from America to the UK is the oak-charred barrels already used once to age bourbon. What I don't know is which UK spirits get aged in those same barrels.
Yup! In 2020, the USA was energy independent. We had enough oil and natural gas that we were exporting some to Europe. Trump rebuilt the strategic oil reserves. Gasoline was a little more than $2 per gallon. Then Biden took office. He reversed all of Trump's energy policies, shut down the construction on the Keystone pipeline from northern Canada to southern USA, banned fracking, cancelled oil leases and off-shore drilling. So, gasoline is $5 per gallon. We have to beg for oil from OPEC, Iran, and Russia, people who hate us. We could be importing oil from Canada, a friendly country just our north. That oil would transported cheaply by pipeline. Instead, the oil we import from the other side of the world by diesel powered tankers. And, Biden just sold off nearly half of the USA strategic reserves, not to help our own people, but to other countries and much of it was sold to CHINA! The Green-New-Deal, Climate Change is a scam designed to bankrupt successful countries and empower the elites. Wake up and vote these Green people out of office.
Wow, that coal dust was just flying of those cars, completely obscured the train itself , whew what a mess dude, maybe they should’ve been bookin through there with it so windy, in my opinion. Glad to see your ok, I’ve filmed coal trains myself and that has never happened to me , wow. I’d be concerned about breathing that in. Anyway, that was nuts dude, your a Real trooper, thanks JT. Take care.👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Hi Jaws…..Sorry that you were caught in the coal dust due to the wind…..it’s been windy here too in Saskatchewan and we are all tired of it…..my mother always complained of cinders from the old steam engines getting in her eyes at an important crossing in the middle of our town…she never missed, Thanks for your great shots and cameos of your sweet pets…take care.
Man - the two beaver damns were very impressive - - of course I enjoyed the trains too - - nope, never seen anything like that cloud of black coming from the 1st train, unreal - - all interesting - - and wow, how smart is Norfie? She sure picked the right family to adopt! - - thanks JT.
I was in northern France heading for the ferry at Calais a few years back and saw this train with clouds of dust blowing off the wagons. Very similar to your coal train except this was white dust which i assumed was powered limestone
For the last 3/4 years,BNSF has tarped their coal hopper that we see through the bottoms east of KCMO. Even before that,I've never seen dust off a coal train!
I was really surprised to see that the eastern railroads don’t include coal dust suppression in their tariffs. UP and BNSF require coal shippers to spray a surfactant on the coal loads. Years ago coal dust accumulation on the ballast was determined to undermine its stability and the cause of several derailments. Ever since the tariffs were changed to require the coating, derailments do to undermining of ballast have not occurred. There are obvious, positive impacts on air quality as well.
The fine coal particles get deep into the lungs, too. That can lead to chronic lung disease. I'm surprised the EPA doesn't make the railroad cover those hoppers.
I remember my grandmother telling me about how the trains that went behind her home hauling coal. She would know when they were coming and have to close the windows and doors and remember not to hang the cloths on the clotheslines to avoid getting coal dust on everything. Thanks for showing me what she was talking about.
For 15 years I lived a few blocks from the Norfolk Southern coal pier, two blocks from the train tracks. It takes a while to get the trains inside their fence. The street system alternates between train overpasses and grade crossings. The ones sitting at grade crossings haven’t figured out the trains are 100 or more cars. I’ve never seen dust like that but pulling into the yard they are moving slow. I have washed coal dust out of window frames. You looked like a miner with the fast train. I’m surprised they aren’t made to have a dust allaying cover over the top.
Having seen western coal on Wyoming lines there was a thin haze. This was like steam loco exhaust and by the time this train gets to its destination.it will have lost about the equivalent of one carload. Heck it was kicking out marble sized nuggets. Obviously this mine ran out or heavan forbid doesn't spray liquid binder on their loads. Too much dust then mixes with the ballast and when wet causes numerous track problems. So JT extra credit for the 🎥 that didn't blow fair trade winds. P.S. Fathers Day coming soon so make mention of the shirt. Hint Hint
Just saw the same thing recently with a coal train. I felt bad for all the traffic adjacent to the tracks being covered with what is essentially, tiny rocks
Back in 1994 I rode a train from Shengzhen to Chongjing, China (about 1,500 miles) they used coal for everything including street vendors cooking and every day I would put on a new shirt and 4 hours later, I would have a black ring around my collar from coal dust and smoke, I know how you felt. I doubt if many cities there are much cleaner. Thanks for your train videos.
Worked at a coal fired power plant for many years. The amount of dust coming from the rail cars is determined by the quality, fineness and whether or not the coal went through a wash before loading the train. Also depends on the distance from the mine in which it was loaded. As the train gets farther from the mine it loses a lot of the surface dust from the top of the cars. Use a dust, mask when standing close to a loaded coal train. Great video. Keep it up.
You're very brave to be able to stand that close to watch and film a coal train for the rest of us.....take care of yourself! Your videos are very enjoyable, I wouldn't want you to expire 10 years too early from taking that bad air in
Thank you very much! I will be careful
Yeah, Black Lung. Hope he covered his mouth.
He already fought fires so im sure hes fine
@@JawTooth be careful out there
As a kid growing up in East Chicago, Indiana (1940s & 50s) I remember the endless coal trains being pulled by gigantic steam engines on their way to the coke plants in the steel mills.
This brings back forgotten memories, I sware that I could smell the coal dust while watching your video.
And I usually had to keep my head down or my back turned to keep the spraying coal particles out of my eyes as the trains passed by.
With all the freedom and adventures we had as kids, it was a great time to be alive and grow up.
Nice account, sir.
Well, in semi-rural Western PA most folks had coal burning heating and even cooking until the 50s. Folks with lots of kids and not so much money would go down to the railroad tracks looking for coal that was bounced out.
I can't just remember the coal dust forming a lump in the corner of my eye, but remember family history stories of one hundred years ago.
Thanks be to God for those stories of how we got to be where we are today! 👨👩👧👦💚🍺🍻🥃🚦
@@GilmerJohn My paternal uncles 12.5 & 14 years my late dads senior would throw rocks at the steam train between Aucklands (NZ) west line Strand Rd diagonal bridge & Newmarket tunnel ( only about 500 metres of exposed track ), in return the engineer would throw coal back, the uncles would fill their pockets for their mom's coal range almost one hundred years ago now.
I think the railroad caught on, how do I know this, someone bought my parents a lounge mantelpiece clock for their wedding in 1961.
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The second coal train in the video had 224 carriages. Mind blowing. Just imagine what that lot fully loaded with coal must weigh.
Each carriage has about 110 tons of coal. Just think of the how big that pile of coal would be from the whole train!
Its is an incredible,and awesome feeling to be close to a train,like the animals too,looks like they have a good home,they look happy,them beavers are amazing builders. Great video,thanks!
Yes, thanks!
Only once, have I ever seen two large green plastic sewer pipes cut into a beaver dam, their inlets were placed lower than their outlets, so the water had to rise as it passes through these pipes. Supposedly, beaver are not able to "repair" their dam if they are unable to block the inlets, being placed below the water's level. Something tells me that the project was the work of our Massachusetts' Department of Environmental Protection.
Great video Jawtooth! I've never saw coal dust blow like that before! This reminds me of a story my mother in law once told me about the trains that used to come through in the area where I grew up, she said when she was a young girl sometimes after they would hang their washed clothes out on the line, the train would come through and coal soot would ruin their wash and they'd have to wash the clothes again! This was along the line off the old Lebanon Ky. Branch that ran from Lebanon to Greensburg Ky. We grew up and lived in the little community of Calvary that was along the line, sadly it's all abandoned now.
I was on a state survey crew when I was 19. They gave us a safety briefing about working anywhere near train tracks, and one thing I remember was to move away from the tracks, face the on-coming train, and watch for (and be ready to evade) any parts that came off the train. They said a loose wheel could roll a long way and do serious damage.
What a great catch. Caught one similar to this in Homestead, PA with a coal train back in the winter. Got the coal dust but it wasn't even close to how much dust blew off of this one. However, there was plenty of snow on it and that was blowing off too. Didn't get much of the coal dust as much as I did the snow. I was frozen when done! Anyway, hope you're having a great Memorial Day weekend!
I'm really surprised that the towns allow that coal dust to ruin their comfort.
Man Jaw Tooth, That Chew Chew Train was Kicking Up Some Ash! I Thought They Cleaned that Coal before Transport. Maybe they were in a Hurry and Forgot? Thanks For hanging in on The Shot though For All Of Us To See! Glad You Got Cleaned Up @ Mickey D's and Were Back On The Track. Thanks Jaw Tooth and God Bless Y'all.
I rode the caboose behind many coal trains and you didn’t want to open the doors or windows unless it had been raining. Some coal trains were worse then others.
I worked a many 12,000 horsepower helper’s shoving coal with cabooses and you learned to appreciate a hard rain, cut off on the fly…..ms~~~
I can understand that. Trucking it was the same.
That is wild, I am surprised that it’s even allowed to drive a train through town let alone anywhere else and not cover those cars with all of that coal dust blowing around I cannot imagine it being healthy for anyone in that town. Then again, I’ve never been in or near a coal mine but both of my grandpas did now I fully understand black-lung. In 2022 surely, those cars should have had some kind of cover to minimize the amount of dust, then again I’m probably dreaming.
Profits over people.
@@timdowney6721 Yes money is infinite in corporations why dont they add covers
Usually during the trip there is checkpoints for spraying the trains ride through car by car and it sprays something on the coal to keep it less dusty
@@itsjustaguy27 that would make more sense. As for the other part of my comment I realize that some locations the train rail was there long before the town (maybe) and the town was built around it. It certainly is interesting to see a train ride through the streets but I guess this would be no different than a street car doing the same thing. But yes, a spray to keep the dust down would make more sense.
That’s terrible, can’t believe why the towns adjacent to these coal trains allow this crap . Almost like working in a coal mine without a respirator. I wander if the mayor of these towns lets families and their children live near these tracks ?
Thanks so much for this, I am a great train buff and love to see them, especially the American ones from the past and present. Really cannot believe the length of these you have shown, what must be a mile or so in length possibly.
Love the pets too, well done in uploading these great scenes, love this.
Glad you enjoyed it! Some of the trains that I film are more than two miles long
That's incredible to see that much dust blow off of that fast moving train. Whether the wind is primary from the weather or from the speed of the train moving into the air, that looked hazardous. Take care JT!!!
One little spark.
The first and the second train was booken
Some Coals contains crystalline silica so an additional hazard.
Wow, the dust.
I wonder how much light the train is on arrival?
There should be covers on those hoppers.
Maybe time for a social movement to get this changed.
A world without coal is a world with inadequate energy. Coal dust can be removed by technology.
Yesterday I filmed a train derailment in Hamilton, Ohio. I am downloading the video right now. Hopefully I can have it posted tomorrow or Monday. The train derailed 2 boxcars and 2 loaded auto racks at one of my favourite filming locations in Hamilton.
Nice!
Hey JT you need to get another cat for your black one to play with.
5:11 dang JT🤭😅😆😂🤣
5:42 step away this time 😁😂
@@ResidentOfTheAbyss I was thinking the same thing. She might not even know what a cat is since all she sees are the dogs. lol
Man, that coal dust was crazy! I’ve never seen anything like that before.
Thanks for adding the radar gun to check speeds! It’s interesting to see how fast they’re going.
Thanks for watching!
I've not seen coal cars with the coal piled so high, higher than the sides of the cars. That gives rolling coal a whole new meaning.
You are a truly dedicated rail fan. To chase down another coal train after the first train and drive 100 miles to see them with gas a 4+$. Awesome video
Yes, the ads that they put on my videos pay the gas
@@FabianDiazTrainsTrucksNCars They either didn't spray it or it dried up I guess
Holy Moly!! hope you send a copy to that rail company to show them someone messed up, you likely breathed it in too, gosh. That's dedication LOL Thanks always
The coal company not washing the coalbefore shipping.
I learned that lesson years ago with bulk lime shipped in open gondola's and a good strong wind, I was ghostly grey after. coal dust I been told can travel for miles on the wind. great video. Norfie and Chessie. Thank You.
Thanks for sharing!
I have experienced coal dust like that and worse watching coal trains in the Powder River Basin before they started putting a foam crust on them. Wyoming wind is fierce and the coal would come straigh off the cars. Also there was a line of coal particles all along the tracks for miles. A fine experience to get on video.
Love the back story of these towns puts the train line into context.
Stobe the Hobo (God rest him) always hesitated about riding coal trains, now we can see why. Imagine being stuck in a long tunnel with all that dust. Very impressive, JT!
Yes, he stayed out of the coal cars. I have been rewatching his videos recently
God bless Stobe. ❤️
@@Pluggit1953 Just think of what kind of cool videos he would have if he was still here.
Great report! Good Health for you is more trains, cats and dogs for us. Take care and Thank you very much! You are the best Mr. Jaw Tooth! 😀👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I was born and raised in NE Pa in the coal region !!! Seeing your face after filming the coal train reminded me of the miners returning home after a day of work in the mines !!! That shot of the beaver dam was awesome !!! I have never seen one like that !!! Thx for including it !!!
That coal dust is ridiculous! They're supposed to wet the coal down at the load out so that doesn't happen. Somebody screwed up. At least you didn't get dusted from the second train. Awesome video, almost epic!
Even if they wet it when it's loading depending on the distance and temperature that water drains out and evaporates, then you have dry coal on the top .
Out west coming out of all the Powder River mines the freshly loaded coal trains pass under a sprayer that wets down each car with a water/wax solution called Dustaid. BNSF was sued by some northwestern states for water pollution caused by spillage and coal dust from moving trains.
I was just going to write about how coal cars got/get sprayed in Wyoming mines also. You beat me to it! I didn’t know about the law suit though, it’s been 40 years since I worked in the mines.
Here in Queensland AU the coal wagons are sprayed at the mine with a coal retardant (gel skin)
They were running about 60 LOADED coal trains out of powder river on the joint line per day. Now i know its less but by how much?
Wow you would think they had to do something, that was bad!
@@SerenitynPeace - there’s a difference between anthracite coal that is back east (where train is) and bituminous coal out west. Bituminous in the west has over twice as much moisture in it inherently than coal mined in the east… so a lot less dust during transportation. www.purdue.edu/discoverypark/energy/assets/pdfs/cctr/outreach/Basics8-CoalCharacteristics-Oct08.pdf
I grew up in the coal fields of West Virginia along a B&O line that had coal trains at least 5-8 per day except Sundays and never saw that before. I think a big difference was that the trains rarely exceeded 20-25 mph in my area and wind was not very heavy usually. I mean there was coal dust everywhere but it was not blowing like that. Reminds me of riding on the old steam train trips NS used to run though.
I have NEVER seen dust blow off a train like that!! VERY hazardous to breathe, also, JT. I hope your lungs were not affected too much causing you respiratory issues. You can shower and wash your clothes but you cannot wash out your lungs. I wonder if the railroad can be cited for this and if there is anything they can do to prevent this, wind or not. Stay well and keep the videos coming!
Hazardous when constantly inhaled 12 or more hours a day. Why do you think coal is bad?
Had more fun wearing coal dust & soot riding behind 611 back in the 80’s than you did watching that coal train, but thanks for taking one for the team JT!
Behind 611?.......do share!
@@sanddabz5635 3 trips, 3 years in a row, 84, 85 & 86 when 611 was touring up thru Ohio during its first resurrection. Hanging out in the vestibules, goggles and all. We looked like reverse raccoon's by the end of the trip. Ahhh, those were the days clicking off a mile a minute behind that awesome locomotive. Then in 87 ... 1218 became alive again. Didn't ride behind it but chased it for 100 miles across Ohio. No digital cameras back then or I'd share. Have a good weekend.
I rode behind the 611 3 different times, the 630 in TN gotta love the coal dust and how bout those cinders
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I feel foolish now! 611 is/was a steam locomotive, got it, I didn't understand what 611 was or meant.
@@sanddabz5635 Hey. no problem. I made an assumption ... but now that you know, can you picture our trips back in the 80's now?
Never seen that happen as well. You are true hardcore Jawtooth. Your efforts to bring us top quality content is truly appreciated!
The show must go on! Thanks for watching
@@JawTooth "Masks optional"
I use to work in the strip mines down here in Brookwood, Alabama. I came home every day with coal dust on me . I drove a 150 ton rock truck . I thought that they sprayed a chemical on the top of the coal to keep it from doing that . I know that csx does that down here .
Thank you for another great and interesting railfan video from Southern Ohio. I love all the interesting historical facts and geography you shared. I especially enjoyed the beaver dams, my first real beaver dam. Thank you.
Our pleasure!
Normally that coal is washed at the processing plant before being loaded into cars, apparently that was unwashed coal being moved, not cool and probably violated several EPA and federal transportation regulations. And just a geographic miscue, Huntington resides in WV, not OH.
biden regimes said it is ok to make americans sick..
Thanks, Jaw Tooth. I have stood by many a coal train but never witnessed such a coal dust cloud before. Kind of an environmental catastrophe, especially for the neighbors downwind. It must have been a more pulverized grade of coal to be so easily lufted by the wind. Stay healthy.
Where's the rain when you need it?
Not as much of a catastrophe as the coal is creating when it is all blown into the atmosphere as CO2
By the time it reached destination, it was only "Half a Coal Train".....
@@tomrogers9467 ..Beta testing, building modern commercial 'Gasifiers' as a temp career.
At 3,000 + degrees, supercharged and water injected white flame 'tornado melts unprotected stainless steel.
A portion of steam generated energy is then used on staged DC Scrubber chambers. Result? negligible 'pollution' escapes.
Actually clear, the combustion chamber peak heat becomes super intense.. transfer to create high pressure steam, driving electrical generating turbines.
'Smoke' ... endlessly pictured by agenda driven, basic education 'News', is condensation (water vapor) from combustion, similar to vapor contrails from countless thousands of daily airliners..
'Scrubbers', ion collectors cleaned periodically (turnaround) with ash residue sold for use by industry.
Latest coal tech is far cleaner than what propaganda indoctrinated educators understand, let alone the 'Green' obsessed (funded) politicians involved..
'Energy' is required for life. Without sufficient, reasonably cost effective energy, life eventually degrades, exponentially......substantially ;/
Side note: Research earth's layers of Limestone (white cliffs of Dover, etc). ....Sequestered CO2...., which in geologic history, was periodically far more intensely generated. ;]
2nd note; Education today is open ... for everyone with curiosity, determination.. take advantage of this wonderful open window :)
Actually...it’s a welcomed treat to any local trees and gardens. They need that carbon to grow strong and healthy.
Man, the quality of your 4k videos is markedly better than your 1080-60p videos. The detail really pops out and I find myself looking at everything in the frame - text and rivets on the trains, the coal dust, even the cracks in the pavement at that closed-off crossing. I know 4k takes up a lot more space and requires a lot more time to render than lesser resolutions, but it looks so much better. You always record the best train footage to produce great content for us, and any time you can catch it in 4k is a big bonus!
I've never seen a coal train with anything like that but it does remind of what happens when tomatoes are harvested. When tomatoes are harvested and put in a truck the tomatoes on the bottom will crush and as the truck drives down the road tomato juice sprays out, this would be kind of similar to the coal dust.
Man Brian, am I glad you did this video.
Ive been dying to go up to Port Clinton Pa where the Reading Northern line runs.
The RN is just up the road from our Cabelas in Hamburg.
Makes for a great day though Brian.
Andys railroad runs the highest quality of bituminous coal in the state.
His color scheme is very similar to the ole Reading one with his locomotives being domimant green with yellow trim.
AND....Andy keeps his engines clean,unlike CSX.
Anyway it is very windy up there in Port Clinton and I know I would get pelted with coal dust.
Watch Andys trains,get a Dunkin Donuts coffee,an XL,duck into Cabelas,go to the Reading park there in Hamburg,bring your fly rod and fish for bassers in the
Little Schulykill River.
Hoo Haa 😊 what else could a man ask for?
That has to be a first for me, whenever it comes to that dusty coal train. Man, I've never seen a coal train kick up so much dust! I bet you felt grungy after that train finally cleared.
Me too!
I feel grungy just watching it.
They normally damp the coal down to suppress dust. I wonder if the equipment failed or something.
@@beeble2003 it was actually a wax like substance that was sprayed while the loading motion was taking place, it may still be used in the western mines that the BN brings east and as cost savings and coal demand diminishes it may very well be a thing of the past here in the USA…
@@mshum538 OK. I doubt they'd stop using it anyway. Stopping wouldn't save costs, as it means that more coal gets delivered, and the railroad gets sued less for covering the world in coal dust.
Awesome footage of that West Bound Coal Train. You are dedicated dude ... thank you.
Had to watch this again. Your reaction after the first train priceless! Great vid start to finish.
Thanks again!
That first train, The Dross Bucket, looked like it was a fire hazard all on its own! Half the load will be gone by the time it reaches a power-station. You'd think they'd maybe put such fine dry stoor into covered hoppers! I guess they're all on grain shifting just now. It was shifting way too fast for such a dangerous load. I'm glad you don't smoke! The second coal train with the 4 loco's had 236 cars on it, give or take a couple. I've noticed the trains getting longer. Yus, the dross is not easy to shift off of the skin and then the surface of the sink! My grand-dad and his brothers were coal-merchants...granny made sure he had his own towels! Cheers Jaw Tooth. Keep Safe man!.
I counted 232, but I probably missed a few
Wow!! Black fog! Yep I've seen it before. I worked for British Rail. We had merry go round trains, fixed sets of hoppers working in circuits. They carried slack from pit head to power stations. When the weather was dry they too left clouds of dust and bits everywhere!! Your trains are obviously much larger than ours. What I wonder is how many tons of coal they lose in transit??
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Wow look at that coal dust. 😮 I can't get over how fast those trains are traveling. Sorry you got sooted by coal dust. 75 mph ouch! Beavers build dams here to in new development areas. Thanks again for an enjoyable video.😊 Loved it so much we saw this video twice.😊
Thank you for documenting these trains, Jaw Tooth! I have never seen a coal train blowing coal dust like that first coal train. The coal particles falling off that train sounded like hail. I have seen videos of coal trains on the Union Pacific running at track speed in Iowa with no sign of coal dust. I think someone mentioned that in a comment on coal trains coming from the Powder River Coal Basin that they put a plastic coaling on the coal to keep the coal from falling off the coal cars and to keep coal dust down. I have also seen videos of Norfolk Southern coal trains running fast past the Lewistown, Pennsylvania Amtrak station with no coal dust flying or coal falling off the cars.
They wet the coal to suppress dust. There are probably additives in the water
When they come out of the loading loop at most mines they go under a sprayer that bathes them in water. By the time they reach Iowa the crust on top hasn't broken off yet, so you don't see dust. It is a special solution branded Dustaid. Not sure what it is exactly (or how toxic it is). I think it leaves a waxy film over the coal.
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I'd zap the trains from the front or from the rear. The beam is deflecting away from the gun when you shoot from a side angle. You need it to get a full return so the gun and measure it. That last train was definitely moving faster than 35.
Never seen before coal car dust wow love it ❤
Wow! Fantatastic! Great job Jaw Tooth!👌
Thanks a lot!
Can you imagine what it would've been like to have been a conductor or flagperson riding a caboose behind a train like that back in the day?
It would have been a lot like what coal miners went through, back in the day.
@@deanstrand4260
or what coal miners still go through today.
Yeah you would end up looking like Al Jolson
They’d look like Justin Trudeau from back in his college days ….
@@RustyZipper LOL!!
JawTooth has always reminded me of the "Neature Walk" Meme as a kid.
He loves trains like all of us but still stays down to Earth and shows us the neat things of nature.
Hi JT that’s the best coal train ever wow I never knew that could happen awesome ❤❤❤
I'm glad you have the speed radar gun tooth that's cool now we can see how fast they are booking as you like to say..lol
Like the Flying Dutchman sailing ship - this train appears out of the clouds - only these clouds are coal dust! This does show how many risks JT takes to bring us these excellent videos :)
Used to work in a coal-fired electrical station. I know about coal dust and what it does to clothing and skin.
That second train had 231 wagons!! Trains letting go of that much coal dust should not be allowed through towns - that's disgusting! They cover every other wagon, why not coal? Keep up the good work, Jaw Tooth. From Brisbane, Australia.
Boy, howdy! Now that east bound coal train sounded eerily like a tornado for sure!😲
I'm glad those cars were taller & lost less coal dust for ya🤗
I've never seen a coal train make a big dust cloud before. It's good the second coal train didn't make a dust cloud too.
JT, thank you for sharing! I have never seen such images! The train is surrounded by a thick cloud of coal dust with speed. It is hardly if we can distinguish it through this blackish mist! The witness who is too close can take a shower afterwards!
Nice Catches today! Those trains were going pretty fast!
Another great video, Jawtooth, I lived in, Ironton, Ohio back in the 70s, Never saw a coal train have coal dust like that. But I saw many awesome trains
That coal dust dilemma is disgusting, imagine a house wife with her washing out on the line, have to wash the whole lot again !
Wonder what the council would say about the air quality for the public whilst moving in a built up area 🤔 Thanks for the video 📹 👍 Certainly illustrates the point 👉 👈 🤧👏
Those Coal rail lines existed long before the "Built up area". People who grew up there or moved there know the risks involved with coal dust.
I was thinking the same thing. I often hang out the laundry and I would be one mad person!😠
@@SternLX That's why the rich folk lived on the good side of the tracks... opposite the predominant wind direction.🙂
@@jananderson672 hey thanks Jan, hope the sun is shining ✨ near you.
@@vernonmatthews181 it sure is in the great state of Iowa. May blue skies and clear tracks come your way.
There's an EPA restriction that requires the railroad shipper to prevent such an occurrence.....
yee
who's going to administer it
local bob
Yesiree Mr. Tooth that is a genuine beaver dam. I'm surprise they are so close to the road with the noise and all. My Daddy lives up north in Alabama and on his property there is a stream, and the beavers just build it up like nobody's business. They get it so there is a pool on one side so they can swim and what I see is they live inside the dam. Also you can see where they naw away at the base of trees to fell them for the dam and leave a point end sticking straight up. You can tell their teeth are sharp by the tooth marks left in the stump.
Thanks for another fantastic video, we all appreciate your time and effort for our enjoyment, Thanks again.
Wow that’s insane! Coal dust is explosive in the right conditions. Surprised to see that happening.
A trucker would be fined big time for this, loads like this need to be covered. I know it's impractical to cover all of these hoppers but spraying loads with water would help.
The Coal is usually wetted down to keep the dust down. These were obviously dry. Anyway, rules are different for public Roads vs Rail Roads. The obvious reason is you don't want a truck spreading material all over a public road and creating a hazard for other drivers. Railroads have a 50ft easement to either side of the tracks for a reason.
In British Columbia unit coal trains are covered with a mixture of water and white Elmer's glue via an overhead sprayer
Gotta keep the lights on!
Norfolk Southern or the coal mine should be fined for this.
I live in northern Ontario, Canada, north of Muskoka, on 170 wooded acres, on a lake. Where my cabin is built, there used to be a meadow, with a beaverdam separating the lake from the meadow. Beavers decided to build a pond instead of a meadow before the 1990's, guess beaver families had to expand, anyway, in 2017, part of the end dam let go, now it's back to a meadow, but can show pics of each dam. Beavers are amazing creatures.
Back in the early '90s I lived in Avon Ohio, they still had a coal fired power plant. I had just left the car wash in my white F 250 when one past me at a crossing. When they passed I turned around and went back to the car wash. " lesson learned " .
Is there a chance that coal dust could be explosive?
@@bobrenshaw381 not diluted in that much air, in a confined space yes. So is dust in a grain silo.
Enjoyed this video. You were the nitty-gritty dust band. The lighting in the McDonald's restroom really shows the dust that stuck to you.
Norrie is the most mild mannered cat I've ever saw. He's always laid back and chilled...
Norfie
Holy crap JT! That never occurred to me either. I've seen 100's of coal trains and never had that happen! You looked like you'd just climbed up out of a mine! LOL
As for "waiting 2.5 hours for a train". My grandson and I have always said, sometimes railfanning takes more patience than fishing does!!
You may have to wear safety glasses when viewing these coal cars, or at least have a pair in the truck. Thanks for the pets and the video. Happy Memorial Day! 🐕🦺🐕🙂👍🇺🇸
Good call!
I wouldn’t be anywhere near a coal train especially on a windy day . Your a brave man Jaw Tooth
That was epic watching that train emerge from the black cloud. Thanks for getting all dusty to bring us this so that we don't have to .🌚🌚
Great video! Thanks for braving the dust storm to show us. The coal that I've seen out west here for PG&E is larger sized and gray in color. Your 37 mph looked like 60 mph! Those are some serious fence posts for your horse! Huge
That is real dedication to rail-fanning.
Hello jaw I see it was a dusty Day Sir . Nice catch . Love the barge . The kitty is having a good time . Be safe 👍🏻over and out. 👍🏻🇨🇦🇺🇸. Robin
Thanks 👍
Wow, that coal dust was no joke! Made my eyes water watching this!
Well, you wanted a coal train. You got it. 🤣🤣 Seriously, I retired from a coal fired power plant. I know that feeling. It's not nice. Nor is the smell.
Great video as always. I grew up and still live in coal country between West Virginia and Pennsylvania along the former Monongahela railroad line. I have never personally seen that much coal and coal dust coming off of a coal train. It must have been al the right conditions, like a perfect storm to make that happen. Thank Jaw tooth for another great video!
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Thanks for sharing your fur babies too 😘
Hello! We've been wanting to write you in FOREVER! Greg loves trains and would love nothing more than to be on the road with you, scouting them out! We both love the pets (perhaps MY fave part!), they are so healthy and happy looking! Kudos to you for adopting the kitty! She's gorgeous! 😁😻
I'm so glad we got to writing you, finally. We are from Fort Wayne, IN, but we're visiting family in Buffalo last week, where Greg grew up, and SW of Pittsburgh, where I grew up. All I had to do was position him in front of the TV at my sister's, and he was happy. He had remote in hand, and Jaw Tooth on the TV, of course! Lol! We love you, keep up the good work! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Oh, and I just found out that Greg subscribed my sister to your channel, too! So, 👍!
The eco- brigade in the UK would have a heart attack at the length of that coal train. This is how absolutely ridiculous it is over here -
Drax power station in England no longer burns coal, it burns wood chips as they're more "eco friendly". But the UK hasn't got enough trees to chop down, so we import willow chips from the Carolina's. They're diesel trucked down, loaded on to a diesel boat at Baton Rouge, Louisiana bound for Liverpool, unloaded, put in wagons then hauled by diesel train from Liverpool to Drax in Yorkshire. But we don't burn coal because it's not eco friendly. You just couldn't make it up!
It's insane!!
Who gets the “cut”? These changes are usually engineered by politicians for profits...theirs!
A much more eco friendly export from America to the UK is the oak-charred barrels already used once to age bourbon. What I don't know is which UK spirits get aged in those same barrels.
Yup! In 2020, the USA was energy independent. We had enough oil and natural gas that we were exporting some to Europe. Trump rebuilt the strategic oil reserves. Gasoline was a little more than $2 per gallon. Then Biden took office. He reversed all of Trump's energy policies, shut down the construction on the Keystone pipeline from northern Canada to southern USA, banned fracking, cancelled oil leases and off-shore drilling.
So, gasoline is $5 per gallon. We have to beg for oil from OPEC, Iran, and Russia, people who hate us. We could be importing oil from Canada, a friendly country just our north. That oil would transported cheaply by pipeline. Instead, the oil we import from the other side of the world by diesel powered tankers. And, Biden just sold off nearly half of the USA strategic reserves, not to help our own people, but to other countries and much of it was sold to CHINA!
The Green-New-Deal, Climate Change is a scam designed to bankrupt successful countries and empower the elites. Wake up and vote these Green people out of office.
Wow, that coal dust was just flying of those cars, completely obscured the train itself , whew what a mess dude, maybe they should’ve been bookin through there with it so windy, in my opinion. Glad to see your ok, I’ve filmed coal trains myself and that has
never happened to me , wow. I’d be concerned about breathing that in. Anyway, that was nuts dude, your a
Real trooper, thanks JT. Take care.👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Hi Jaws…..Sorry that you were caught in the coal dust due to the wind…..it’s been windy here too in Saskatchewan and we are all tired of it…..my mother always complained of cinders from the old steam engines getting in her eyes at an important crossing in the middle of our town…she never missed, Thanks for your great shots and cameos of your sweet pets…take care.
Hell Yeah, That's what ya call "Rollin' Coal! Love this video!
Oh yeah!
Wow.
Almost dense enough for a dust fire.
Careful not to breathe too much of that.
Man - the two beaver damns were very impressive - - of course I enjoyed the trains too - - nope, never seen anything like that cloud of black coming from the 1st train, unreal - - all interesting - - and wow, how smart is Norfie? She sure picked the right family to adopt! - - thanks JT.
Thanks for the video, I chuckled when I saw the title...kudos for going back for the second one!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I was in northern France heading for the ferry at Calais a few years back and saw this train with clouds of dust blowing off the wagons. Very similar to your coal train except this was white dust which i assumed was powered limestone
For the last 3/4 years,BNSF has tarped their coal hopper that we see through the bottoms east of KCMO. Even before that,I've never seen dust off a coal train!
Wow. That was the most awesomest dustiest surreal coal train i've ever saw filmed i think. Lol
I was really surprised to see that the eastern railroads don’t include coal dust suppression in their tariffs. UP and BNSF require coal shippers to spray a surfactant on the coal loads. Years ago coal dust accumulation on the ballast was determined to undermine its stability and the cause of several derailments. Ever since the tariffs were changed to require the coating, derailments do to undermining of ballast have not occurred. There are obvious, positive impacts on air quality as well.
The fine coal particles get deep into the lungs, too. That can lead to chronic lung disease. I'm surprised the EPA doesn't make the railroad cover those hoppers.
NS needs to be cited, and fined for that pollution. That is totally inexcusable.
I agree, but unfortunately , we(consumer)would end up eating the cost, more so than NS. It all goes downhill, unfortunately.
Someone forgot to add the tacking agent to the coal to prevent the coal from blowing off the load. Never seen that happen before.
They had to be losing a fair volume of coal by having it blow off like that.
save money
lose money
I remember my grandmother telling me about how the trains that went behind her home hauling coal. She would know when they were coming and have to close the windows and doors and remember not to hang the cloths on the clotheslines to avoid getting coal dust on everything. Thanks for showing me what she was talking about.
Yeah, I learned something also Lol
For 15 years I lived a few blocks from the Norfolk Southern coal pier, two blocks from the train tracks. It takes a while to get the trains inside their fence.
The street system alternates between train overpasses and grade crossings. The ones sitting at grade crossings haven’t figured out the trains are 100 or more cars.
I’ve never seen dust like that but pulling into the yard they are moving slow. I have washed coal dust out of window frames.
You looked like a miner with the fast train. I’m surprised they aren’t made to have a dust allaying cover over the top.
Having seen western coal on Wyoming lines there was a thin haze. This was like steam loco exhaust and by the time this train gets to its destination.it will have lost about the equivalent of one carload. Heck it was kicking out marble sized nuggets. Obviously this mine ran out or heavan forbid doesn't spray liquid binder on their loads. Too much dust then mixes with the ballast and when wet causes numerous track problems. So JT extra credit for the 🎥 that didn't blow fair trade winds. P.S. Fathers Day coming soon so make mention of the shirt. Hint Hint
They're loosing money letting all that dust get away!!
Just saw the same thing recently with a coal train. I felt bad for all the traffic adjacent to the tracks being covered with what is essentially, tiny rocks
that stuff is hard to get off also. I took a long shower
A lots coal dust came that train that was pretty cool I never seen that Esther ❤
Back in 1994 I rode a train from Shengzhen to Chongjing, China (about 1,500 miles) they used coal for everything including street vendors cooking and every day I would put on a new shirt and 4 hours later, I would have a black ring around my collar from coal dust and smoke, I know how you felt. I doubt if many cities there are much cleaner. Thanks for your train videos.