Pinlock Overview and Buying Guide at RevZilla.com
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- Pinlock Overview and Buying Guide
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Pinlock is the first name of anti-fog face shields. Pinlock has been available in the US since 2005, and now most helmet manufactures offer a Pinlock lens option to work with their helmet. Pinlock is a two-part system that creates a fog-free faceshield. Unlike coatings that can scratch or wear off, or simply aren't effective in very low temperatures, Pinlock creates a dual-glazed window out of your faceshield. Pinlock consists of a Pinlock-ready faceshield that has the posts or "pins" that the Pinlock lens snaps into. The second component is a moisture absorbing, soft plastic lens with a silicone bead that is locked to the inside of the shield and uses a layer of air to insulate inside temperatures and resist fogging. Some helmets come with Pinlock ready faceshields, some also include the lens, such as the Schuberth C3 or the HJC CL-16. For other helmets, an aftermarket faceshield can be purchased along with the lens to turn your helmet into a true fog-free lid.
+Marek Generowicz Because the Pinlock Insert is basically a second lens when installed in your faceshield, light from car brakelights and street lights can appear to be doubled when riding at night. So instead of seeing one set of brakelights from a car in front of you, you also see a second set, slightly offset, because some of the light is being bent as it passes through both the face shield and the Pinlock insert. For some, this can be disconcerting, while for others, it doesn't bother them. -DrewZilla
Can I use the light smoke one at night? Can i get the review?
We do not recommend the light smoke tint for night riding. It's generally too dark for that. -DrewZilla
This is why I wish they'd just make it work without the pinlock. I love Shoei quality, but Scorpion never fogged on me with just their chemical application - no second lens needed.
@Zayne Marcel WOW! you both joined UA-cam 1 day apart! it's a damn coincidence!
0:57 "shom shields" 😂😂😂 I wouldn't have been able to say that properly either.
Lmfao!! I caught that too🤣🤣🤣🤣
5:18 "bit better" - or something like that. :)
I don't understand, why was he speaking fast, if he can't it.
😭😭😭 soo cute
Sooo weird going back to watch Anthony’s old vids. He’s SOOOOOOOO chill in this video. Now you can’t even understand him because he talks so fast
The silicon bead can wear out over time from being installed repeatedly. If you are trying to swap it out on a daily basis, I would recommend a second Pinlock lens for your second helmet. If you are only swapping it once a season, it should be okay Also keep in mind, the Pinlock lenses are not universal. Unless you have two identical helmets (or faceshields), they are not interchangeable. ~Ali
+NEW ZEALAND TRAILRIDING You'd want the Shark Race-R Pro / Speed-R Pinlock Lens Insert. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/shark-race-r-pro-speed-r-pinlock-lens-insert
Hi Nathan, I would say it depends on the time of day you do most of your riding. Swapping Pinlock lenses daily will wear out the silicone bead too quickly. If you do some of your riding in low light or at night, I would suggest the clear lens. If you only ride in daylight and want the extra tint, go for the smoke version. ~Ali
I have a pinlock system on my Schubert CS3. It is very fog free. Works well there. One downside of the pinlock system is the ability to get dust in between the lens and shield. I ride an adventure touring bike and in dusty conditions, dirt and dust will eventually get in that space. Its not too hard to clean at an hotel, but it might be a PITA to clean while camping. But it really does work.
Thank you for the feedback. I use a Pinlock set-up on my Arai during the colder winter months here in Philadelphia on my commute to work and it works great. ~Ali
Yes, you can bend the faceshield, just do so slowly. The pins do not come unscrewed from the shield, they merely adjust tension on the insert. -CK
Thank you for the feedback. We don't carry Airoh helmets, but I have a Pinlock on my Arai Quantum 2 and it works perfectly. I can see that with some shields, it might distort light, but it's never been noticeable with my set up. ~Ali
Yes, the Pinlock Shield and PInlock Lens are separate items. You can choose the tint for the shield based on how much light/sun you want to let in. Then, the Pinlock lens takes care of fog for you. Common misconception - the Pinlock lens really has nothing to do with tint, although they have sold them in tints in the past. The main point is anti-fog. -CK
The purpose of Pinlock is mainly for anti-fog use. I would not recommend using any tints at night time, with the possible exception of amber. For sunglare, you are best using a tinted shield and not a lens, as the glare will come through at the top border where the lens does not cover. -CK
Depending on the age of the Pinlock lens, it could be time to replace it. After installing and uninstalling it several times, the silicone bead can loose it's ability to adhere properly. When cleaning the Pinlock lens, make sure to use a mild solution of soap and water, as many cleaners can deteriorate the silicone bead. ~Ali
The clear Pinlock lenses often have a protective film on them that can make them look "yellowish" check to make sure that is removed before using. -CK
The Pinlock system is top notch. I also use a Pinlock on my Arai and highly recommend it. ~Ali
I got one of these for free with my Shoei. Had been wearing the helmet for about 3 months before I got around to installing the pinlock. God damn this is incredible. Wish I'd installed it immediately. Winter fogging is a big problem, but now is completely gone. So damn good. Worth the money if your visor always fogs at the lights. - Western Australia.
4:18 Impressive... Most Impressive.
A keen eye for observation you have, young Skywalker. -CK
I find your lack of faith...disturbing.
Best investment for any helmet. The anti-fog performance can't be beat, with the benefit of having multiple coloured visors in one, which makes it an excellent value. only down side is the visor has to be removed to uninstall/reinstall an insert, but you would do so anyways when replacing different visors.
Been using the pinlock insert for 6 months now, one of the best things I've ever bought, I would recommend this to anyone! Ive got a clear insert with a clear visor and the vision is excellent.
I haven't heard of that issue on the RPHA 10. I suggest giving our Gear Geeks a call for help with troubleshooting. ~Ali
No, the AGV Grid has posts for racing tear-offs, but no Pinlock attachment on the inside of the shield. -CK
May the clear lens be with you. ~Ali
seriously it is a must. the Pinlock system changes the way I feel about full face helmets.
I have the pin lock system with the yellow lens. I bought the shield and insert thinking it was a luxury purchase. For any type of cold riding this should be non-optional safety equipment.
I needed a new clear windshield and was going to order the standard replacement for my Shoei RF-1000, but watched video and read reviews of the pinlock shield system and decided to try it. I am surprised how well it works regardless of weather temps/moisture. It says daytime use only, but I have had no issues leaving it on and using at night.
take the pinlock out and make sure it and the visor is dry before putting it back together making sure you dont have any gaps when you put the pinlock back on
Apart from a lock & chain a Pinlock anti fog visor is the best thing you can buy.
In my previous helmet it came with pinlock. The helmet i use now didnt come with it, without post too. After a bit of looking i now have a pinlock lens but instead of using posts. Its a sticky lens, like a sticker it sticks inside the shield. And it great and it also adjust too bright light/sunlight, wouldnt want a helmet without a pinlock. Not having your shield fog up is great.
Sorry Munky332, Shoei doesn't make any Spectra Pinlock visors. My two cents: Go Spectra for the summer, and get a standard Pinlock for the cold and rain. -CK
Got a pinlock from the factory on my Nolan N104 I got from these guys. It just works, and you don't have to clean and reapply any coating like when you use the SCUBA or rainx sprays and the like.
Inspired use of Darth Vader to demonstrate anti-fogging.
Thanks for this! I just got a Shoei GT-Air (Wander blk/ylw) and the pinlock instructions weren't very clear about how to install it. It was still quite a pain, but watching this video got me on the right path of actually flexing the visor as flat as I could get it. Now if only the dropdown sun visor was a little more fog-resistant....
Bought it april 28th when i also bought my 2012 F800 GS ;) 3700 km / 2300 miles later its already broken, i hope that is not the case or else i bought a lemon :) (not with you but my local dealers, so don't worry i wont hit on your awesome returns and service! ) :)
Ill check it out when i can at home thanks for the comment!
My Shoei pinlock recommends against night use. The two lenses are hit by light and sparkle brightly. Pretty, but not recommended for night riding. I had to pull over and take the lense off.
The RST is a mirrored coating, it's not really related to visor protection. ~Ali
I've been using this product for a few months and absolutely love it. I've lost my pins however and can't for the life of me find anywhere to buy new pins. I went out and purchased a new pinlock lens but it only came with one pin. I now have 2 good lenses and only 1 pin. I refuse to purchase another lens when all I need is the pin. I've emailed Pinlock USA. We'll see what their response is.
Nice. I can't imagine winter riding here in Philly without my Pinlock. ~Ali
One thing to take care of tough is my scorpion exo 1000 didn't close as well as before due to my gopro mount ( now removed) and i had a water leak (in a water shower ) at the top of my shield, water ran in and got under the pinlock and then it doesn't work anymore :) so make sure you close your shield properly in the rain :)
The dark smoke pinlock shield is actually darker than the spectra shields in my opinion. -CK
Soon, my friend.
Another good job Revzilla! Sometimes these basic things that you take for granted aren't really known by everyone esspecially new riders. Nice Vader too!
I had a bad experience that started with the helmet and ended with the pinlock. The helmet ($400 Airoh miro xpr) fogged at any speed under 25 mph. With the pinlock there was no fog at all, but it reflected and multiplied every single light in the street. The helmet was unusable with or without the pinlock at night. Sold it and ordered an AGV.
Now i know the mechanism of anyi-fog visor. Air trap is the orginal mechanism. Thanx for describing this issue so simply.
Technically, Pinlock works via the combination of the air gap as well as the porous surface of the Pinlock lens insert. -DrewZilla
Hey mate what pinlock insert do i use for the Shark Speed-R Carbon Skin Helmet? scratched the inside of mine while trying to clean it
Anytime, friend. ~Ali
I picked a lens and shield for my Shoei Qwest and it's great. Also you look very meditative in the first frame of the video.
Thank you for describing such a WONDERFUL FEATURE!! So pumped to pick up my first lens!
I have clear pinlock lenses on two arai helmets. They're perfect. They work day or night.
You guys really are Gear Geeks! This is why I love Revzilla... right there.
Thanks for the feedback.
If you purchased from RevZilla, just give our Gear Geeks a call! They can hook you up with the missing pin, or just swap out the lens. -CK
Calling them geeks that's bullying 😭
How you held the shield to pop the pinlock in place helped me with the no fingerprint issue brotha, thanks
I have a question. I just recently received a HJC CS-5N open faced helmet. I'm needing to replace the face shield on it, what face shield should I get? I've been lookin but I'm not sure what to purchase. thank you
Many use the 3-Snap Flip-Up Shield. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/product/hjc-3-snap-flip-up-face-shield
Very informative. Just got a new higher end helmet and now I know how to properly install the pin lock on the shield. Thank you!
Alright, I will definitely go with the clear then, I think it should be sufficient seeing how the RST is more protective than say a regular dark smoke anyways. Thanks again!
Hey Ali! I was wondering which color pinlock is ideal to go under a Gold RST Mirrored shield. Clear seems correct because the mirror is there, and smoke seems correct because it would just add more shade(maybe too much). Please let me know! Thanks!
Not really. There are a few 'amber' or 'gold' shields that come close, but anything besides clear will worsen your vision at night. -CK
hey, i have a question about SHOEI CWR-1 dark smoke visor for RF1200/NXR helmet. Do the visors come in different sizes or does it fit all helmet shell sizes? I'm using small helmet and was wondering if the visor will make a good seal.
The CWR-1 shield for the RF-1200 is "one size fits all" - in other words, regardless of the size of your helmet you would purchase the same shield. -TeamZilla Chris
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/shoei-cwr-1-pinlock-ready-face-shield
Probably a dumb question, but will I have any problems using a clear Pinlock with a dark smoke visor? Should I have gotten the tinted pinlock for the tinted visor?
Unfortunately, there is no way to retrofit your face shield with a locking mechanism. ~Ali
Say I use a Shoei helmet, can I get some other brand's pinlock lens or must it be from Shoei itself? Just the lens btw as my helmet does already come with the shield which is pinlock ready
You want to go with a Shoei Pinlock lens. -Hi-Viz Brian
Love the Pinlock system, had this set up on all three of the Arai helmets I've owned, highly recommended!
Fantastic video. Answered all my questions about pin lock.Thanks
Also, in some points the pinlock touched the shield and created very distracting stains. I think I am the only unhappy Pinlock and Airoh customer. The system was installed by the local authorized dealer.
When should we use this pinlock system ? Should we only use it in cold days ? Is it wise to use this pinlock permanently on our helmet just to be safe against this fogging issue, no matter how the weather is ? Can you briefly explain when does riders use pinlock system, how long do they use it ? When should they replace them ?
+M. Yıldırım You can use it all the time. Install it in your shield and leave it there. The Pinlock insert is a bit delicate, so you shouldn't remove it a lot. You should replace the Pinlock shield or insert if it gets really scratched. -DrewZilla
I love how you power through all the tongue twisters!!!!!!
hi
this was interesting one and knowledgeable
i am not sure if you have any video on hydraulic clutch system, if not could you do one.
Bought a pin lock for my sedici strada animale and I’ve tried for hours to put it on and i don’t know if it’s to big or I’m just not putting it on right
My pin lock that came with my Shoei X14 doesn’t fit on the Shoei transition visor I bought as far as I know they (Shoei) should all have the same size pinlock right?
No, they don't all have the same size. The X-14 comes with the CWR-F (F for Flat) Flat Race Shield, which uses the CWR-F Pinlock Insert (www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/shoei-cwr-f-pinlock-evo-lens-insert). The CWR-F Shield is flat from the top to the bottom to accommodate race tear offs (so they lie flat against the outside of the shield). The Transitions shield is the CWR-1, which comes on the RF-1200 and RF-SR helmets and does fit the X-14. However, the CWR-1 Shield is curved from top to bottom for better optical clarity. Since it doesn't have tear off posts, it doesn't need to be a flat race shield. So, long story short, if you want to use a Pinlock lens on the CWR-1 Transitions Shield, you need a CWR-1 Pinlock Lens Insert. I've linked that below. Hope this helps! -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/shoei-cwr-1-evo-pinlock-lens-insert
This system was out for cars in the 40's, then we got electrically heated screens, that'll be the next thing on helmets as well I bet (if there isn't a heated system already there soon will be).
They have this for snowmobile helmets. You can probably use a snowmobile electrically heated shield on a motorcycle if you want to. I would guess they are now available for motorcycles but I don't recall seeing any.
Thanks for the very informative video on pinlock. Now I know how it works and how to use it correctly I'll order an inside screen.
I would be useless without Revzilla. Great video as usual.
Thank you~ I was always unclear about this! Moving to England, I think I ought to invest for my Arai.
Hey, I was looking into buying a Pinlock Shield for my HJC helmet. Found the right shield and whatnot, but I was a little confused. When purchasing, I am asked to pick a color (clear, smoke, etc), but at the bottom there is a disclaimer that says "anti-fog lens sold separately". Does the shield come with a lens or not? If not, what's the point of choosing a color? Just wondering if you knew...thanks - telkins
Is there a way to install this type of tech or any alternative on a helmet like bell elliminator that's not pinlock ready? My goal is to find a transition solution for my bell elliminator.
I have a hjc cL-17 but I can’t find a pin lock shield for it, the only thing it shows is the hj-17, are these the same? Or am I looking in the wrong place?
The CL-17 uses the HJ-09 face shield. Linked below are the correct Pinlock shield and Pinlock lens insert. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/hjc-hj-09-pinlock-ready-face-shield
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/hjc-hj-05-07-09-17-pinlock-lens-insert
I like my helmet but it doesn't have pins for the inserts.
Can i buy the pins and retrofit (drill)?
Lance Flanagan
Yes
Great video, very helpful. So would you say it's better to fit a clear pinlock to a smoked visor than a smoked pinlock to a clear visor?
I'd say it's personal preference. I like having one face shield to worry about and a few Pinlock lenses to choose from. -Hi-Viz Brian
I have one and its best investment for a helmet. I commute at cold nights and it keeps inside helmet nice and toasty
Hello. Just wanna ask if the HJC i90 has a free pinlock included in the box when purchasing from your store?
The insert is not included, but is available on it's own here:
www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/hjc-hj-33-pinlock-lens-insert
-Zack
0:59 "Shum shields" lol
My visor is too big for my AGV Helmet and will not go in, what am i doing wrong??
@0:59 "shome shields" lol!
love the pinlock system. I have it on my X802 helmet and you can put that visor in a sauna and it'll never fog
What about pinlocks on the AGV GP TECH? is the same application method used?. And are pinlock visors one time usage or does it last a long time.
s1latb0i The AGV GP-Tech does not have a Pinlock option, but for helmets that do have Pinlock option, the method is the same. There are specific Pinlock-ready face shields that accept specifically-shaped Pinlock inserts. Pinlock inserts are more delicate than face shields but can last almost as long as a faceshield if care is taken. -DrewZilla
Good informative video. Mine has become loose. Do they shrink or degrade over time? Nolan 104 EVO 2 years old. Do I need a new one??
Yes, they can change slightly over time, though you can also usually twist the pins to adjust the pressure on the lens insert. If adjusting the pins doesn't work, it may be time for a new lens insert. -DrewZilla
Do pinlock shields usually come in different tints, like regular shields, or is it usually restricted to clear with different tints on the pinlock lens?
Breath normalized?
It's simple insulation so the inner screen does not get cold enough to produce condensation that's all.
Can a Pinnlock lens come without the silicone bead ? for Nolan N60-5
Excellent explanation man. The detail of the Mug Vader was just sweeeeet jajajajajajaja
Have a look at the Protectint Pinlock insert.
RevZilla Please tell me that you sell that Darth Vader steamer! :-D
I think it's a coffee mug. I have one.
I've had issues with pin lock lenses... I keep a clear lens in my shield at all times but like to have a smoke lens in my backpack so I can swap if I'm riding facing the sun for a long period of time. I keep the smoke lens safe in it's own separate compartment in my bag but it became contaminated with what looks like little bacteria as if looking through a microscope. There are these little worms all over the lens and they don't come off no matter how many times I clean it or soak it. Now it also happened to my clear lens... I bought a replacement clear lens a few months ago, stuck it in the shield and don't dare to touch it. So far so good. This system works wonders in terms of preventing fogging but this contamination issue I'm having is a real downer. Has anyone else encountered this problem and does anyone know how to clean this bacteria / residue off the lens? Revzilla rules!!!
I purchased the pillock ready shield not knowing I needed to buy another lease to go in it, can't find any lenses on your site to go with the one I purchased from the site
Feel free to reach out to our Customer Service teams and they will be happy to help locate the insert your looking for.
www.revzilla.com/customer-service
Do you use it when it rains or do you have to remove it when raining?
Great explanation and demonstration. Cheers!
Are all pinlocks the same size? My helmet is pinlock ready but what pinlock should I buy?
Definitely not. Pinlock lens inserts are different sizes and shapes depending on the specific helmet face shield they are designed to fit. Since you didn't mention your specific helmet brand and model, we cannot provide a recommendation. Feel free to send us an email or use our Live Chat feature on RevZilla.com to get a quicker response about your specific helmet. -DrewZilla
I just realized that your pinlock ready faceshields do not say RST Gold Mirrored, just regular, does that mean that they are less protective? Just curious.
I don’t think I’m gonna put mine in because I feel like it’ll just blur my vision. Mine came with a clear and it doesn’t look too clear
Keep in mind that they usually have a protective film on one side that needs to be removed. -DrewZilla
Hi bro.....what pinlock do fit with the GSB S 362 helmet
Looking at the Shoei GT-Air and I know it comes with a pin-lock lens, does it affect the optically correct shield ?? I mean...is there some distortion on the pin-lock lens that can cause some distortions ??
+Umer Malik Distortion can arise at night from light passing through the face shield and then passing through the Pinlock Lens Insert. This can cause a bit of "ghosting", where you see the lights from cars or streetlights but also see the same lights slightly offset from the originals. That's why Pinlock is only recommended for daytime use. -DrewZilla
RevZilla Thanks so much for the info