Since it's longer than it is tall, isn't "Shaft of Autumn" more appropriate than "Pillar of Autumn"?
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- Yes, I took a ship from a game where the whole point is not, in fact, inter-ship combat, or even the ships themselves, but rather first-person shooting. You can't even /drive/ the Pillar of Autumn in Halo, but it's still a cool ship.
Even if it does have a bizarrely long racetrack sticking out of its forehead.
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That’s not even the best part of “Pillar of Autumn”. If you read “Fall of Reach”, they retrofitted the “Pillar of Autumn” MAC with a capacitor bank. This allowed it to fire 3 MAC rounds without recharge between shots. So… imagine 3 freight trucks flying at you at almost 1km/s.
I thought it was more like 10,000 km/S
@@bluejayfabrications2216 does it really make a difference? Either way you’re still kinda dead.
@@tacticalturtlez4906 A factor 10 in speed means a factor 100 in kinetic energy. And the PoA shot at a lot of things it didn‘t destroy outright.
Meanwhile at the start of war, unsc spirit of fire gets a mini 3 barreled mac that used captured energy from the other two firing to fire a third round.
Born to truck die to truck
Salesmen: "Now one of the main benefits of having a giant, fuck-off cannon at the center of your ship is that it also serves as your keel, and it's in line with your engines to compensate for recoil."
Speaking of recoil, no need for those reverse thrusters.
The only thing I would change is using centerline instead of keel but that's just a old sailor knit-picking about sailing terminology. For the gun to be the ships keel it would have the ship built on top of it. I don't think I need to explain what the centerline is but it's a imaginary line that goes from bow to stern through the middle of a ship.
Like an A10. The only gun with a plane built around it. Shooting the GAU8 slows the plane down because of the recoil.
@@keirfarnum6811 I never thought of that analogy before now, but it's precisely correct. The A10 was built to service a weapon, and many UNSC ships were designed the same way.
@@nunya3163 mag/rail gun don’t produce recoil
if we're talking names 'long night of solace' is easily the best ship name of any in the halo universe, human or covenant imo.
Shadow of Intent IMHO
Not going to argue because that one is def up there, but I've always loved UNSC Two For Flinching
@@kaminachos5129 UNSC Say My Name.
@@PerturbedMan UNSC You’re God Damn Right
Truth and Reconciliation send you her regards...
It's a shame Mother of Invention isn't canon. That's a good name.
It kinda is canon though. While the literal Reds vs Blues isnt canon, Seasons 6-10 are canon.
@@F14thunderhawk since when??????
@@F14thunderhawk where did youhesr that?
@@F14thunderhawk last i heard it's only cannon as being a tv show in the halo universe
@@tfw8738 it’s not
Also Rip to Mama Foe Hammer. “If you've got a better idea, bring it up at the next staff meeting. Until then, shut the hell up and let me fly this thing.”
Seriously. Hers was one of the more unfortunate deaths.
Rip Foe Hammer, your a soldier that master chief will never forget as you were the true hero of the battle for moving around 117 around the ring.
@@paxamericania5923 The ability for Foe Hammer to fly anywhere and through anything, including the internal structure of Halo itself, makes her an absolute treasure of a pilot.
You know her motto “always deliver” well she did deliver on a great and honourable death in the sky unlike other unsc pilots
I'm fairly certain that Foe Hammer actually picked up Johnson and they both made it out if I remember right..
Maybe in one of the books? Its been years since I've read them, Im really not sure
Edit: Looking it up it seems Im wrong but I swear I saw or read it somewhere, No idea. I know Johnson made it out in a Pelican, Maybe I just assumed the Pelican was hers that he and some Marines made it out in since it was around the area
“In Amber Clad” I have always loved the way it rolls off your tongue.
It gives the notion of red hot Armor from combat.
Lolol that’s disgusting
Kinda hot bro
Mine is called "The saber of succulence" It rolls off many tongues as well
@@miamijules2149 what do you mean?
@@Teddy-rv8iw What does that mean
My personal favorite name is "Spirit of Fire". So fitting for a ship that wasn't originally intended for combat but had the perfect crew to make up for it.
Since the ending of Halo Wars 2 teases that Anders might be appearing in Infinite, I'm hoping the Spirit of Fire and her crew appear in Halo Infinite or a future campaign expansion.
@@kobi7955 ya that ship was just really well bonded. also if you notice the fucking asshole ya deal with agenst in halo wars 2 is in infident from the sight of things. meaning ya he likly is
Bungie really had a knack for giving good names to ships.
I hope humanity follows this old tradition of quasi-irreverent and tongue-in-cheek naming convention when we finally take to the stars. Sure, most of the UNSC names are definitely boilerplate-ish but others are a definite middle finger to what some might consider propriety. _UNSC Say My Name, UNSC Do You Feel Lucky, UNSC Tokyo Rules, UNSC Welcome To The Snipehunt, UNSC Two for Flinching, UNSC Walk Of Shame,_ and many more.
Though Bungie didn't invent this sort of nomenclature, it's gotten a lot more prevalent since. In the Deathworlder universe, there's this one private-company-that-totally-not-future-SpaceX that took the idea and ran with it, making them stand out from the rest. _Three Smaller Ships In A Trenchcoat_ comes to mind.
UNSC Respect My Authoritah!
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The culture ships "Lightly Seared on the Reality Grill" and "Liveware Problem" would like to know your location
@@AlMcpherson79 I was gonna say, SpaceX tends to using names suggested by Mr. Banks, and tending to the whimsical, with a distinct lack of gravitas.
Stellaris pirate ships and Rover Ships in XO have a similar style. In XO I found a ship named the “Wait a Minute”
The "silent but deadly" comes to mind
I guess that’s one way to make an unkillable ship.
Build it outta bulkheads.
Thats why supercarriers are damn near impossible to sink
The only problem is they went to all that effort and still put the command deck at the front of the ship with big freaking windows.
Why didn’t they go the extra mile and bury it in the center of the ship with view screens to see what’s going on?
My personal favorite Halo ship name is the UNSC Two For Flinching.
The perfect name for one of the smallest vessels in the fleet.
A fast attack corvette, designed for hit and run attacks. Conveys the perfect image for such a vessel, suddenly feinting an attack, eliciting a pursuit or response, only for the enemy to be caught out of position and exploited elsewhere.
you beat me by 24 hours I always loved that name.
Was that in one of the books? I don't remember
@@commander2552
I forget specifics myself, so I'm just going off of the wiki for it, but it was supposedly the corvette that took Johnson to Harvest.
@@commander2552 It's in Contact Harvest.
Pillar of Autumn, Spirit of Fire, Forward Unto Dawn, In Amber Clad. If anyone ever gets a real space navy. They better goddamn well use badass names like these.
Don't forget Two For Flinching and Do You Feel Lucky?
One of the best quotes of Master Chiefs
"Sir may I permission to leave the ship""
Person responds "why"
Master Chief simply says
"To give the covenant back their bomb"
"for a brick, he flew pretty good!"
I DONT WANNA GO UPPIES BRO
Bungie Halos had always ballers awesome one-liners.
@@residentfacehead3465 Jorge is the only man who can eat a round meal
the creator of the A-10 Warthog: "i'm going to strap a plane to that gun."
random dude: "Don't you mean strap that gun to a plane?"
creator: "DID I STUTTER?!?!!"
And it's good
perfect descr
Brrrrrrrrrrrrr
The thing is, that's actually how it was designed
The PLANE was designed around THE GUN
@@DepressedCrow and because of it the fucker is oddly redundent
The problem with "The Infinity" is that everyone says it wrong, and therefore fails to grasp the glorious, heartswelling imagery.
It was actually named by an English Naval officer called Rear Admiral Sir Marmaduke Willoughby-Clungeston the Third, and was originally, before it was tragically misheard and written down incorrectly, his last words as he lay dying following an horrific Croquet accident, and spoke of his final vision as his soul departed to the afterlife, an afterlife which, as all true English types know in their hearts, is believed to be a never-ending paradise of relaxing afternoon refreshments on the lawn during a mild English summer's day.
The words he uttered were, in fact, "My God... it's full of Infinite Tea."
They got us in the first sentence not gonna lie.
@James O No probs, glad you liked it 👍
"Tea Unending" would unironically have been more interesting.
The dream of every British naval officer.
Eh that's the Brits for ya.
One of the best things about Halo is the ship names, the UNSC deserves massive kudos for that.
Except for "Infinity".
@@SacredCowShipyards what do you have against the name infinity? its a fine name. its not the most creative sure, but its a fine name
@@weberman173 It's a cop-out.
@@SacredCowShipyards corporate handovers tend to do that. My Halo ended with Reach.
@@SacredCowShipyards Infinity might not be as fun as UNSC names tend to be but come on it is a fine name for a super special capital ship.
Man I love how you pointed out how the UNSC use brutalist designs.
The forerunners are also big brutalist fans. ;)
In Fairness the UNSC are actually quite fascistic. And I mean that pretty literally.
@@invidatauro8922 Maybe jingoist rather than fascist I'm not seeing too many red flags on the 14 points.
@@gyleymaskey Myabe not the UNSC. ONI definitely is though.
@@invidatauro8922 what makes ONI Fascist?
My personal favorite ship in the Halo-verse will always be Spirit of Fire.
That ship will always look glorious
Rip forge
3:16 All UNSC ships Frigate size and up are just flying rail guns with crew compartments bolted on, armor plated over top, and guns slapped over that, with missiles pod banks inserted into the armor here and there
They're coil guns actually
@@halfgecko3202 I think that distinction is less important than the fact that they are literally just flying guns.
And I apologize, but I can't not hear "AcK-cHyUaLlY" when I read that
I mean. Why would you not do that?
@@Sigma-gb9yd fair
My wife is into candles. Years ago she got a candle trade magazine(yeah, it’s a thing) and the cover that issue was all about Autumn Pillars. In the world of candle freaks, a Pillar is a type of candle. The opening scene of Combat evolved suggests humanity’s existence is barely flickering in the vastness of space?
‘In Amber Clad’ is something frozen in time. Jurassic Park was only possible because of insects preserved in pine sap.
Bungie’s “I love Bees” promotion leading up to Combat Evolved may have significance as Master Chief is frozen in cryo when the game opens.
I like this, but I love bees was for halo 3, not ce
@@cheafmin1399 No. I love bees was for Halo 2.
And infinity is fitting as it shows the creators intention to abandon the carefully ploted story and lore of the trilogy retocon everything and milk the franchise to death with deluge of shit starting with halo 4
@@vonfaustien3957 They started doing that way before 4, when they threw out the official novelizations.
Those books were good, and Bungie pulled a Mouse and fed them into a woodchipper.
holy shit In Amber Clad sounds so much cooler with that reasoning.
There is also the UNSC SayMyName, It was the Marathon class cruiser in Earth orbit that launched the ODSTs in Halo 3 ODST.
Why would you name a ship that... you could have picked anything... ANYTHING! But you picked that!
Its a cool spunding name and they were probably running out of names that were cool because it appears that every ship was given a cool name.
@@kriegertechpriest7011 cause it’s totally bad ass
@@sillylittleowlguy2392 well... Im gonna be honest, first time i heard tht name, i thought it was what someone used to name a ship in a fanfiction, but... yeah its a cool name... it could have been something better... like Tributes Bite
@@kriegertechpriest7011 How is the tributes bite better? Sounds like some edgy suicidal retard gives a name like that. Ass of a name
The UNSC 'I don't get paid enough for this' should exist
The honeycomb interior structure was also cut out from the rest of the class because it was incredibly costly. It was the smallest and lightest of the cruiser class designs the unsc had and the cost ran similar to that of potentially heavy cruisers like the Marathon
In Amber Clad always sounded so noble to me, like a line from some Wilfred Owen poem. It's cool to find out other people like the odd unsc names too
The names have so much more character than the Star franchises and most other sci-fi. Also IAC has a cool theme song too if you listen to the sound track.
Because it is.
Frigates are named after famous lines of poetry or sayings.
Cruisers are given judicial/honourable adjectives.
My favourite one is that Prowlers (stealth ships) are named after famous serial killers or synonyms for fear
@@TheGreatThicc that's really cool!
USNC always had cool ships, we really need a space strategy that does it justice.
Sins of the prophets is a pretty good halo space strategy mod
The board game is probably the closest you’ll get to that.
for the name thing, UNSC Infinity along with its sister ship, UNSC Eternity, was not originally build to be a combat centred capital ship. it was to be a lifeboat in case the Covenant takes Earth and humanity lost the war. They were to simply fly away and run until they find a safe place to settle or just live in the ship for generations if needed. so their names may have different theme to the other combat ships.
Also 343 isn’t half as creative as bungir
@@kyriss12 The problem is that they have cool ideas but poor execution
I've always loved the aesthetics of Halo's ships, both the utilitarian look of the UNSC, and the more smooth, almost organic look of the Covenant.
I love UNSC ships even if Infinity lacks a single ounce of subtly. With names like UNSC Unto the Breach but simplicity of a huge space gun with lots of smaller guns.
I think there was another of the Infinity class that was suppose to name Everlasting, cooler than Infinity but ended up got changed into something less cool
@@henrycooper3431 I'm not sure if it was originally named the Everlasting, but the UNSC Eternity is the sister ship to the Infinity
@@DerCharacter Is there actually an Infinity named Pride of Sol or am I just crazy?
@@joeyginise6051 you're just crazy
On the plus side, needing to point the entire ship towards the target makes it harder for the target to hit back
Not that this really helped against the covenant, but hey, the Logic is still fairly sound.
Also given when it was developed it could be made with planetary assaults in mind where a MAC can be devastating and a planetary target is easy to hit
If you shrank it and put a pistol grip on it, it would make a believable rifle or heavy cannon.
Same! It's a damn rifle!
There are quite a few Halo ships that would make awesome rifle designs.
I think _In Amber Clad_ (or a ship similar to her) was once described to look as "A blocky rifle with its magazine removed," in one of the pre 343 books.
When i saw the Forward unto Dawn in this Video, i saw a heavy Machinegun ^^ Reminds me of the Machineguns in Destiny xD But i could easily be a Rail Gun from any kind of Game.
I can imagine the first time the covenant went up against one of these. They put holes in the ship, pust holes through the ship, blown parts of it off, and it's still kicking their asses.
Pillar of autumn- is the pain train, receiving or giving. It took the bell and threw it at the enemy.
Well it was the nightmare of Covenant after our Abriter (before becoming an Abriter) control his fleet, saw it coming and shoot it, it when through their blockade and continue to shoot it, it go straight to the sacred ring (aka the Halo) while being shot at, blown up the ring and still tank shots, being chased as it try to run away and still dont go down and ended up just escape them after being shot at by over a dozens covenant ships
The Pillar of Autumn was actually in service and critically damaged in the battle for Arcadia in 2531, a full 20 years before the ship would actually be destroyed.
The A-10 Warthog is my favorite gun ever. Now I know why I love the Autumn so much.
When somebody said, "Cool gun bro. Can you make it fly?"
And much like the A-10, the Halcyon class was designed with multiple redundancies, so you could shoot it to pieces and it would still be coming at you.
A-10 in Space is the single most perfect description of this thing I've ever heard.
Im an ex Navy guy and the saying in the Navy was that we took weapons, built a hull around them, put all the stuff in to support the weapons and then whatever room was left was for sailors. So I understand the design ethos
Re: Infinity-
I think it’s a fine name. Might not be up to snuff with PoA and Dawn, but we’ve also gotten ships like the UNSC Gettysburg, or Trafalgar, or Savannah.
those last three ring out as well as Farragut or Enterprise.
@@TheShootist I would be utterly shocked if there isnt a UNSC Enterprise out there somewhere.
The unsc say my name
And Grafton. UNSC FFG-318.
UNSC You Can't See Me for a stealth ship
If I remember correctly there is an explanation for the warthog run somewhere in Canon. If I remember correctly it was mentioned that 343 guilty spark had a tendency to disassemble ships that crashed on the ring, and play with their insides. So the 3 KM stretch may be due to a strange experiment preformed by guilty spark.
That'd be weird since the only other mention we have of a crash landing on Installation 04 involves Guilty Spark conducting quarantine procedures and not even breaching the ship, instead sealing it and letting it sit there for the rest of time.
@@shardperson3777 That was a different ship. A good ~20,000 years pre-war.
For me, Forward Unto Dawn evokes both "Once more into the breach, dear friends" from King Henry V and Tennyson's The Charge of the Light Brigade
For me it feels like someone tried to take "Second star on the right, and the straight on 'til morning!" and make it sound more grandiose.
I love how there’s such a difference in ship names and tank names.
Ship crews be like, we shall name our ship “The Mother of the seas”
And tanks crews are like we’re gonna name out tank “Big Pappy cholo”
Gunsmiths Built the Ships . Poets Named them . Except that last one .
My favorite UNSC ship name was "Two for Flinching" it was in one of the books and I think it was like a corvette or destroyer or something.
Fast Attack Corvette
Halo’s names are always great because they sound like poetry
3:16 additionally I forget which book covers this but the honeycomb structure was expensive as hell so it was cut mostly for that due to the fact that it did not matter how fast the UNSC ships were the would get hit by the covenant ships energy weapons so they went more for survivability but still only so much you can do with our shields.
"THERE'S NO ATMOSPHERE IN SPACE!"
I kid you not, my buddy and our girls got together for beers, burgers, BS, and sat down to chew the fat, with whatever movie happened to be on in the background.
"Armageddon" was on some cable channel, so we put that on and got to talking. All of a sudden, my buddy's girl (sweet girl, dumb as box of hammer handles though), exclaims, "OMG, what is that"?
We all look at the TV. If you've ever seen Armageddon, you know the scene where the asteroid starts getting close, and there are those green gaseous tendrils streaming from it as the sun heats it, or whatever?
She says, "what's that doing to the space air"? I stared at her for at least 15 seconds, literally dumbfounded, before I asked, "space......air"? I then had to somewhat delicately inform her that there is no air in space. That's why it's called space. But she was a theater major in college, so....
The phase I use (picked it up from a show) when that kind of thing happens is: "I think my mental server just crashed".
@@danielm6049 Yoink....useing that one day thank you sir have a thumb.
IRT to the UNSC Infinity, if they had wanted to use Infinity but keep to the normal naming convention (you forgot Spirit of Fire from the RTS) they may have run into problems since "To Infinity and Beyond" was kind of already taken.
They could have called it "To Infinity" and then make a second called "And Beyond". Personally, if I were to name a UNSC ship it'd be something like "Day Late Dollar Short" or "Out For Cigarettes" or "Baby Mama Drama" just to keep things fresh.
They could have done "Unto Infinity" or some other poetic-sounding combination.
@@ClassicMagicMan No Beer no more
Shit hits the fan
Fuck this shit
Or they could name her something like Infinite Horizons, considering her original role as a lifeboat for humanity
UNSC 'Eternal Zenith' would've been a cool name in my opinion.
"The enemy is down!"
have you done the Ender's Game ships?
Not yet, but that's... complicated.
@@SacredCowShipyards DO IT!!!! You know you want too!
@@ohbeegee Before the movie came along did we ever even get any ideas about what enders game ships were supposed to look like? 'Cause I don't remember them describing them all that much if at all really... ...
@@monkeymonk666 Main thing I remember was that they got older and less advanced as the "game" progressed.
@@voyager1713 well yeah cause they were having a fecking festival with time dilation pretty much throughout the whole book lol
They even kept the theme up with the later books in the series.
But that being said I don't think the book gave much specific detail.
I bet you could find full 3d renders of the movie ones pretty easily though, still not very descriptive about internals and such but if you did like a deep dive on concept art, show notes, dev comments. You might be able to extrapolate a decent amount of information... Possibly...
I love the UNSC naming schemes, minus the Infinite naturally
I suppose that depends on how you view orientation of space craft in a 3D space.
Plus rule of cool. On the name anyway.
A ship naming tradition video would be sweet.
That's... complicated.
Extremely. I'd actually argue you're entirely correct in this case for the record. A "Pillar of Autumn" would really need to be oriented like the mothership in the Homeworld games in terms of how people live and move around in it if you wanted to match orientation to name.
I liked, how all the other ships of the fleet, were basically, a rifle design in space. A little like in Aliens, where the ship at the start is just a big gun, not just a weapon with a ship around it; a gun, where if there was a big Gundam, you'd be in one of its hands.
Pillar makes more sense if you use the Ender's Game line of thinking... the enemy's gate is down, or in other words the direction of the main group of enemies is down.
Ahh, the "UNSC Assimilate This".
I love the UNSC naming schemes. Sometimes ships will be named traditionally, like after battles (UNSC Iwo Jima, UNSC Tralfalgar, UNSC Stalingrad, UNSC Saratoga) or given single word names of words meant to inspire awe or impress people (UNSC Infinity, UNSC Eternity) some named after old terrestrial ships (UNSC Canberra, UNSC Musashi, also UNSC Saratoga. Even one named after the Space Shuttle Endeavour.) Then you have naming schemes that are unique to the UNSC, things that sound like mythological names or references (UNSC Pillar of Autumn, UNSC All Under Heaven, UNSC Song Of The East) and then you have the ships names after phrases (UNSC Do You Feel Lucky?, UNSC Say My Name, UNSC Long Time Coming.) It's just an amazing variety of naming schemes and all of them are impressive in some way, be it impressive or intimidating, historical or modern, even some being downright humorous, like the crew use the ships motto as the name. Most UNSC ship names have their own personality, while also being a name you can say in a dramatic situation while maintaining a level of seriousness.
This is also not an exhaustive list (I'm not going to write a novel here lmao,) there's also place and planet/moon names (UNSC Seattle, UNSC Io) scientific/mathemical concepts (UNSC Parabola UNSC Edge of Umbra,) some named after works of fiction or notable historical figures (UNSC Midsummer Night, UNSC Armstrong, respectively.)
Also notice how each of these settings are for different classes with Cruisers being the ones like the PoA.
The super carriers we had get called the simplest names and the destroyers have those little quips that really put forth our style of battle
UNSC Prometheus. Which naturally was already destroyed by the time we learn of it Seriously, Sc-Fi ships named Prometheus never seem to survive long
Most halo ship names sound downright poetic.
As for early human ships, I think the combat focused ones will deploy arrowhead shaped drones, heavily armored bows and sides on a steep slope with most of the sensors and maneuvering bits on a relatively unarmed rear, to do the fighting while they run like hell.
So basically star destroyers from star wars but with more thought to their design?
I love the Autumns sister ships name “Dawn Under Heaven”
I’m sad he didn’t say anything about “Spirit Of Fire”
So if you overtake UNSC Infinity did you go “To infinity, AND BEYOND!”?
Lowkey is love to hear your thoughts on some of the ships from “lilo and stitch” because why not
... I could do that.
@@SacredCowShipyards lol fun times though!
It'll *entirely* be me bullshitting all over the place, so... yeah.
Id second that
@@SacredCowShipyards I mean I’m curious to see what level of bullshittery you can come up with. I mean the navy probably taught you a lot my friend. I was army myself
Going along with the general style of the UNSC ships, may I make a suggestion:
Sulaco.
(If you don't have the Colonial Marines Technical Manual, I strongly encourage you go get a copy; the details of the Sulaco and space combat are *wonderful*.)
Ahh, my favorite names in sci-fi, like the UNSC Say My Name
My favorite UNSC ship is literally named after a battle. It’s the UNSC Trafalgar.
The thumbnail text is basically story of A-10.
EDIT: and I love how that was developed in the video.
But yeah... in space there in no reason to not make your main weapon on a fixed mount like this.
And I totally agree with that trend where outside ST all human ships have function over form.
Spinal cannons have a ton of issues, so there is good reason not to use them. Big Guns mean Big ships, and big ships turn slower, meaning its harder to aim said big guns
@SacredCowShipyards Doing these videos, you may want to read the Halo Novel "The Fall of Reach" as that covers a LOT of the Technology inner-workings and Tactics of the Starships/Navy which is later lost from the following Novels, as they have a Canonical storyline. And any Technology Workings mentioned in a previous Novel doesn't go into the same detail in further Novels.
I remember calling the “Pillar of Autumn” the “Forward Unto Dawn” and I feel stupid.
Infinity should’ve definitely been named something grander. Personally I would’ve gone with ‘UNSC Heart of Sol’, other great names I’ve heard are; Visage of Hringhorni, Harvest Moon, Everlasting Reach, Cole’s Stand, Keye’s Spirit & Noble Will. Hell even ‘Touch/ Vision of Infinity’ sounds better if they insist on keeping the infinity part. My own fan ship is called Cold Night of Bastogne and even that sounds better.
For my SF SO novel I use Latin versions of cool 2 word names (for the Terran Empire...tho in my novels they are the villains). Cantus Nocti (Night Song), Astrum Prime (First Star), etc.
You can’t get bigger than Infinity.
I think 'Vision Of Infinity' is an excellent name, it could even start a specific naming trend for that class by starting with 'Vision Of' for multiple ships.
@@danielm6049
Vision.of purple polka-dotted alligators floating through the sky.
At this point the UNSC is gonna start making Covenant levels of long names
yeah, 343 kinda messed up on quite a few things in their desperation to make Halo their own, naming the "Infinity" is just one example.
Fanfiction tier writing, gameplay that felt like it was trying so hard to be cod, just one big train wreck.
@@Joe-xq3zu They're not terrible games, but they just aren't Halo games. And Infinite looks more like a fairly low budget Halo themed mod than a standalone title.
Well it wasn’t meant to be a military ship. It was originally an ark, 1 of 2 eternity class ships. They were to be the last ships built on earth as the war was thought lost obviously that didn’t happen so it was retrofitted to be a military ship while still being self sufficient.
@@domp2729 To me, that feels like another mistake, this time lorewise.
That right there is the main problem they’ve been suffering from (Until recently), they didn’t understand they made Halo games, you dont make the franchise your own, you continue the franchise.
If you look at the size of the end hangar in the last level and consider there are 8 of those seen in other scenes the actual ship length would come around 4.5 kilometers.
The technically correct term is Honking Great Space Gun
I prefer the what the f... Was that gun
I love how they name ships in the Halo universe, both for the humans and the aliens.
In the Covenant's side they name ships with a more religious vibe to it, really bringing on their culture altoghether:
Long Night of Solace
Solemn Penance
Seeker of Truth
Resplendent Fervor
There are all awesome.
Everything warthog relatable is by default cool
Your thumbnail said, "building a ship around a gun" and the first thing I thought of was the Warthog. Imagine my surprise...
It's a REALLY BIG Warthog.
Basically.
@@SacredCowShipyards I read a book in which there were engineers on a civilian space ship (the size of a city), which was totally unarmed. They became aware that they were bringing their cargo into a war zone, and that "totally unarmed" was not good. So they, being engineers, fixed it. They built a magnetic cannon down the center of the ship, melted the metal ingots (the cargo) and made cannonballs, and came to town. Being processing engineers, they had a speed-loader for the cannonballs, one from the left pile, one from the right pile, so that the ship wouldn't veer as it fired.
The pirates weren't expecting to get punched a hundred times in three seconds!
Honorable mention: UNSC Spirit of Fire from the Halo Wars games
I wanna be mad that you're insulting halo but "shaft of autumn" is probably the best joke yet
I almost thought you'd bring up and laugh at the giant gap with draw bridge being a huge cut out point in the ship, in a frontal area that doesn't visibly exist from outside viewing. That part of the level gets memed on where a level accurate version looks split in half and connected by that tiny bridge beam.
One point - bridge placement
They took the idea of the A-10 and applied it to a MAC cannon
UNSC Say my name, UNSC two for flinching. All that needs to be said lads
i believe the design philosophy "take a big gun and bolt on whatever else a ship needs" was also used in sins of a solar empire by the TEC (human) faction, especially the marza dreadnought and the ragnarov titan.
Forget cavalry charges. Forward Unto Dawn evokes a Bloody CRUSADE!
Here is a good starship name: Hammer of Sol
thats a good name for a proper Battle Cathedral.
Is it just me or does the "Forward Until Dawn" look like some kind of sci-fi sniper rifle with a box mag?????
Edit: Forgot to add that Amber Clad ALSO looks like a gun
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Pillar of Autumn, In Amber Clad and Forward Unto Dawn are names taken from lines in poetry, I am told. I had though Forward Unto Dawn may have been a Peter Pan quote (a line quoted by Shatner’s Kirk in closing scene of Star Trek 6).
even though spinal mounts have practicality issues i still cannot deny how fricken cool they are and i love halo unsc designs for this very reason
its a space cannon with engines attached and that is just the epitome of awesome
The _Infinity_ is named that because it's not a gunboat. It's a _carrier._ The UNSC's first attempt at making a supercapital like the Covenant _Long Night of Solace._
But unlike the Covenant's plasma beams, MAC guns can't swivel. So it's a floating army base with the strongest shield in known space, enough forces to conquer a planet on its own, _and_ mated frigates.
Hmm, to make the Infinity fit in with the UNSC ship names, why not call it the Reach of Infinity? It also works as a pun as well since Reach was where the first Spartan IIs were created as well as their base of operations in a way and well, MP in Halo 4 and 5 is basically you training with others in the Infinity which is your base of operations.
i mean. given we have the UNSC SayMyName and stuff like UNSC Gettisburg and UNSC Trafalgar(iirc) infinity isnt "that out there"
*Me:* (reads a thumbnail caption) _"So, basically a deep space version of A-10 Thunderbolt, huh?"_
I would assume the ship length mismatch comes down to the age old naval tradition of lying about how big your ship actually is.
The UNSC ship designers were looking at history books, saw the A10 Warthog and were like “That, I want that, but bigger, and in space.”
Best named UNSC ship has to be the UNSC Bum Rush
I love Halo's hero ships like Autumn, Amber, Dawn, Spirit of Fire, and Everest.
Never got into the kantai collection stuff until i read a few stories involving embodiments of those Halo Ships. ("Rise of Leviathan" (and "for earth and her colonies") are great to see the Halo Ships in the Kantai Collection context, while "Greenhorn v2" is great to see the embodiment of UNSC ships in the halo universe.)
"we got a really big gun, build a ship around it" and that's how the A10 Warthog was born
What's strange about the autumn to me is that it was docked on reach at the end of the game- as in, in-atmosphere, the final level has you walk right up to it to deliver something before it takes off. Literally how???
It doesnt.
Halo reach, while a good and fun game, is a travesty in terms of lore. It completely rewrites main events in the story, and arguably even characters. As much as I love it, it will always kinda be non Canon for me, as the books were done earlier and with the original writers blessing.
@@supremefirebird halo canon did a great video on fitting reach into previously established canon. And even then it doesn’t break the lore too badly with (as far as I can remember) the only major inconsistencies being the PoA and cortana being in two places at once.
@@jovialmonster757 I think cortana literally was in two places at once, since ai can fragment and reform
Aah, HALO ships are a must. It surprises me that the Pilar of Autumn masses 9 million Tm, that's more than an Invictus class SD!
Anyway, if you get to play HALO:REACH, I look forward for your opinion about the Starfighter...
Oof.
And the covie ships are still MUCH bigger
My napkin math put a UNSC frigate at about 225,000 tons. Which is a lot lighter than you'd expect from a ship that is 5 times the size of a nimitz class carrier. But it is made of titanium, the best metal ever.
@@Orinslayer Mass of a ship will depend a lot of how much space is left inside for things like living quarters for crew, and all the fiddle bits that make a ship a ship. My own napkin, for example, gives me a density for the Pilar of 0,3 Tm for m³.
To be fair, the Autumns honeycombed with Titanium-a bracing that makes her stupid resiliant. That probably adds mass.
A10 made into a ship is exactly how it is built and I love it
Pillar of Autumn looks exactly like a handgun with a ship wrapped around it, quite literally.
i always wonder if they build a ship around the mac cannon like we build a plane around a Gatling gun ( a-10)?
if i remember right the Pillar of Autumm main gun round when hit it will shatter causing more damage to target.
And since she fires three smaller projectiles on one go.. that's technically nine rounds hitting the same small area. No wonder the Covie shields didn't work much
I always liked reading that massive UNSC FLEET vs the Covenant’s fleet. Then Admiral Cole just has both sides get destroyed to smitherines by using that Supernova Star.
They did let their kid name it. Bungie's perpetual child, 343
just wait till he finds out that most of the UNSC's ships are also just guns with engines
Well it's a big ole space brick, so Brick of Autumn? And for a brick, it flew(crashed) pretty good.
Well that was the concept behind the a10 warthog. They had a gun... And built a plane around it and in the end the result was badass
This is how they built the A-10.
We built this big gun
“Put a plane on it”