if ismaili's don't fast during ramadan, are you telling me that ALL OTHER MUSLIMS DO? lol. Mate, look at your own environment and then step into another.
+living2damax ..2 wrongs don't make a right .. also in islam fasting is compulsory -those who don't follow it is their headache ---whereas its not compulsory in Ismailis
+living2damax is it compulsory ? r u sure about that answer? ...is it ever being announced or told to you in jk to fast or they tell you not to disclose to others that you r not fasting
"If a person is intelligent and pious His piety occupies him from the sins of others Just like the ill one is kept preoccupied From the sickness of others by his own sickness" - Imam Shafi' 'Can't we all get along? ' - Rodney King
@fardoon - It is refreshing to hear that you wish to discuss and attempt to understand the Ismaili's differing belief system and are simply not dismissing it with no wish to hear what we believe. I believe that more non-Ismaili Muslims should be as willing as you to talk about these different views. There is an article on Wikipedia under the name "Ismailism" which (whether written by an Ismaili or not) is very informative about the early split and divisions in Islam leading to the Ismaili branch
i'll give you answers: 1- so basically you mean Allah is only present in the Holy Kabha? 2-tell me you do not need to tell someone basics it is obvious every human performs wudu before their prayers! 3-if we are suppose to do the prayer given by prophet how come shias follow 12 imams prayers? 4-where in the quran does it mention prayer five times a day? 5-who says we do not keep fast?donot believe in what you hear! 6-who says we do not do hajj? it has the same importance as it is to you!
@ fardoon - I understand where you come from and I respect the fact that you do not have the same beliefs as Ismailis. But what you call our "whims" or "desires" are our "beliefs" so I would hope that you would show our faith the same respect which we show to all other religions. P.S. I appreciate the fact that you did not respond with highly inappropriate cursing and profanity! lol.. I much prefer responding to persons who respond to me in a civilised way so much appreciated Fardoon!
Similarly, we are told to do Hajj, no Imam has told us Ismaili's NOT to do Hajj, and once again, if the individual decides not to do Hajj that is a personal choice and not representative of the principles of our Tariqah. We also give our dasond equating to 12.5% of our earnings, indeed some also give not only on earning but ANY money which they receive. Is this principle not almost identical to what other Muslims term zakaat?
The response was supposed to be posted in choronological order, but for some reason my responses to reasons 3,4, and part of #5 were not posted. Please read in that order.
do u recite Salawat in salawat we say "Allahumah SaleAllah Muhammad wa AleMuhammad" who is allemuhammad Ali, Fatimah, Hassan, Hussain??? or your Imams Shafi,Hambal, ABu Hanifa, Imam Malik?????
I have nowhere in the Quran read that we must pray five times a day. Does it not say pray once at daybreak and twice at the going down of the sun? I think so. We are not absolved from fasting, we are told to and if unable for whatever reason to do so, se are to make up the days missed. If certain Ismailis decide not to fast that is their choice, but do not suggest that fasting is not an Ismaili principle.
2- Before Ismailis make there Dua they do not make wudu(washing before prayer). Ans: Wudu is must before you performing Namaz and Ismailis perform DUA.
I want to add the the hadis ends at the part ...to which I am my companions belong" The bow before Allah... part is added by me. I am sorry for not inserting inverted commas. [text copied from REPLIES TO THE MOST COMMON QUESTIONS ASKED BY NON-MUSLIMS by Dr. ZAKIR NAIK]
Muslims were to pray 3 times a day in the Qur'an ([1]salat al-fajr at dawn; [2] salat al-esha at night [24:58]; [3] al salat al-wusta at midday [Qur'an 2:238]) after the Jewish three-fold pattern of prayers [shakharith, minkah, and arbith]) but the number of prayers was later increased to five (fajr, dhuhr, asr, maghrib, isha'a) to match the number of prayers (gahs) required by the Persian Zoroastrians
And just as a counter to one of your points, the Qu'ran never states that all Muslims must pray 5 times a day, in fact it says that prayer should be kept at the two ends of the day and once in the evening. It was the Prophet (may his soul rest in peace), who told some of his most devout followers to stop praying throughout the day in order for them to earn their daily bread. He is then to have said that for those who want to pray extra, they can pray 2 times extra on top of the 3.
if you said that to me i am sorry to offend you, it was not my intention please...read my msg again...i just said we have to follow Quran and Hadith of our Prophet Muhammad pbuh and not fight amongst ourselves as we are not sunni, shia or ismaili, we are muslims!
7- They do not remember Imam Hussein or Muharram or ashura so now imam Hussein is of no importance to them, then why they call themselves as Shia? Ans: was Imam Hussein shaheed by any Kafir or the people who accept the Islam? Bcuz of u people Imams migrate to different countries.
@darlingofgirls007 Was this response for me? In that case, I never said I was wasting my time. The reason I wrote my super long response was to clarify the misconceptions the poster of this video had about my religion. This was not meant to be an attempt to convince anyone that my faith is superior to anyone else's therefore I cannot fathom where you get jealousy from...
As you was kind enough to quote from Al-Kafi, I thought I'd do the same. 1. All Imams are equal in rank and status to Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.w). (Al- Kafi, Vol. No. 1, Pg. 270) 2. Follow the Imam when he is under the state of Taqi'ah. (Al- Kafi, Vol. No. 1, Pg. 40) 3. Scriptures of God reveled to Imam. (Al- Kafi, Vol. No. 1, Pg. 176) 4. We are the eyes of the God in his creature and the final authority in all human beings. (Al- Kafi, Vol. No. 1, Pg. 145) Wouls you like more quotes ?
[Quran; 2:125] We have rendered the shrine (the Ka`aba) a focal point for the people, and a safe sanctuary. You may use Abraham's shrine as a prayer house. We commissioned Abraham and Ismail: "You shall purify My house for those who visit, those who live there, and those who bow and prostrate." [Quran; 2:127] As Abraham raised the foundations of the shrine, together with Ismail (they prayed): "Our Lord, accept this from us. You are the Hearer, the Omniscient.
Somehow some of my comments were not posted, so I will post again. 3) There are 49 imams in my faith my friend, and it is not the prayer of Aga Khan, it is a prayer of Allah. There are many different sects of Islam, which is correct and which isnt is up to Allah to decide. 4) If this isn't a preposterous lie, I don't know what is. A lot of Ismailis do fast, but our faith doesn't make it mandatory for us to do so, the reasons for which are so complex this is not the forum to discuss them.
3. Our Du'a is composed by 6 surat (more than the amount of obligatory surat in the namaaz) and the only thing which is said about Aga Khan in the du'a is that he's our present IMAM (not god, the use of the word "Lord" is not referencing Allah but respect to Aga Khan as every culture did with their own kings or rajas...) We do our Du'a 3times a day like our beloved Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) did... (No time to do 5 prayers a day during wartime, so he used to do 2 in the morning, 1 noon, 1 evening)
I’m a Christian and grew up with an Ismaili best friend. I can say that I prefer Ismaili company to muslim company. I would say Ismailism is superior, more humane than Islam.
o really.. so u beleive in allah..and his noor..that good.then why have your imam agha khan changed the pillars of islam..namaz,roza,hajj?...does;t it clearly says in quran allah's book that you
5- They do not perform Hajj which every muslim must perform at least once if they are well enough and can afford to. instead its more important to them if they have a glimpse of Aga Khan in thier dream. Ans: who was born in Ka'baa, Ali or someone else, and the offspring of Ali is the Aga Khan. we have been following his offspring till now and tilll the end.
@AghaKKhan What are you talking about ? Aga Khanis never said that their Imam was a incarnation of anyone. It's true that the first INDIANS (there are more Syrian Ismailis) were Hindu converted to Islam through Ismailism. So the influence is only on the Tariqah (Culture) not in their faith. e.g. : Ginans (kind of Indian qasidas) is musically like Hindu prayers and are in a mix of Gujrati-Kachi. But the lyrics are pure devotion to Allah only. They must respect each 5 pillars as every muslim does.
if u guys believe in Quran, Allah and Prophet (S.A.W), just give me one ayat where it says that their will b a descent of Hazrat Ali.. we believe in there is no God except Allah and Prophet (P.B.U.H) is his last messanger. this is not attacking some one's religion, u people are making fun and making adjustment in ISLAM which is not allowed. we are all obliged to raise our voices against such an act.
@0991786 "I am leaving among you two weighty things: the one being the Book of Allah in which there is right guidance and light, so hold fast to the Book of Allah and adhere to it. He exhorted (us) (to hold fast) to the Book of Allah and then said: The second are the members of my household I remind you (of your duties) to the members of my family..." Sahih Muslim Book 031, Number 5920 Is this factual enough?
You follow up your response with "you CLAIM to follow Maula Ali as your Maula.... yet none of the traits of the Maula are found in any of you" - I assume you meant religious rituals/ceremonies. In this case, I believe I have answered your statement with the below responses. If indeed you meant "traits" or 'characteristics' then your supposition is highly generalised and somewhat mis-informed. Mawla Ali was kind, generous, loving, etc.
3. We also do the sajada (Which is obligatory) 6 times in the du'a ! 4. Ramadan is again, an obligation for every muslims... It's not because some Ismailis don't do it that it's not in the obligations of an Ismaili... (There are alot of other Shia that don't do Ramadan...) Don't generalize ! 5. Same ! Hajj is an obligatory and my ancestors did it (they are Ismailis) 6. Hijab is meant to be worn during prayers ! Give me the exact place in the Quran where it's said that Hijjab is compulsary...
According to Tirmidhi Hadith No. 171, the prophet (pbuh) is reported to have said, My Umma will be fragmented into seventy-three sects, and all of them will be in Hell fire except one sect. The companions asked Allahs messenger which group that would be. Where upon he replied, It is the one to which I and my companions belong. Bow before Allah, follow his messenger and ask Allah for guidance constantly whoever you are...We are truly divided right now sadly...
5:6] O you who believe, when you observe the Contact Prayers (Salat), you shall: (1) wash your faces, (2) wash your arms to the elbows, (3) wipe your heads, and (4) wash your feet to the ankles. I would include the rest but you can read the remainder yourself. Ablution is not based on Hadith but Quran. God prescribed a specific way of cleansing before prayer, NOT the prophet.
@Damloti2 Sorry but I didn't understand your point brother... You're accusing me of heresy but why ? Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) had warned against "challenger nonsubmitter" but as I know as a Shi'a, the prophet (PBUH) said in Ghadir-e-kum that he was letting the holy Quran and his descendants behind him and Aga Khan is a living descendant of Hazrat Ali which gives him the power to guide us, not to rule us instead of Allah ! ONLY GUIDANCE ! Understood ? And don't insult me by saying i'm heretic !!!
and we should all praise such enlightened individuals, not spread false accusations. Also, as another responder pointed out the Quran does not oblige us to pray five times a day, it indicates to pray once at sunrise, and twice in the evenings. If we like to pray more than the prescribed times we should do so without anyone telling us.The more prayers, the more closer we can hope to have a relationship with Allah S.W.T.
May you Answer that Who is that Authority to whome we should obey now. As there is no any person in world having direct Conversation with Allah. Also Prpphet is not present within us (in the apparent sense). the only person havig authority should be consulted (if Quran and Sunnah is not obvious on any matter). You may differ from us but we believe the Aga Khan is that person. this comment that we dont need Allah is tottally wrong.
1- Ismailis do not face the Ka'baa while praying instead they think all is everywhere and choose there own ways. Ans: First u must get to know about the true meaning of DUA and Namaz. Ismailis do not face the Ka'baa while praying its true cause while performing Namaz its very important to face the ka'baa and Ismailis do Pray and pray and namaz is different
@fardoon - as an additional point, I am a "Shia Imami (due to my belief in the Imams) Ismaili, Nizari Muslim" - The Nizari sect of Ismaili's are the largest with approximately 18 million believers all over the world.
@0991786 This part is not in the Du'a but in the Tasbih after (and it's only in the indian tradition that we ask through Hazrat Ali) but Ismailism is not the only section to do so.. Why pointing the finger at them ? Let's take the example of Sufism. Don't you listen to qawali ? In Sufism, they have a spiritual master called Murshad (Sheikh/Pir) who is a link which takes roots in Muhammad (PBUH) and his cousin + son-in-law, Ali, who is held by Sufis to be the foutainhead of mystical knowledge.
@0991786 Just a question... Where do you live ? How many times and how far did you go out of your country ? There are Ismailis around the world... From Canada to Japan, Australia to USA, Russia to South Africa, East, North, South, West there are Ismailis. Would you say you've seen all the Ismailis in the world ? I'm proud to be a Muslim and I'm afraid only of Allah... That's why your accusation towards my faith don't afraid me because I'm devoted to Allah only and I have no master except Him...
Why don't you read the entire collection of Al-Kafi and ask yourself why you are a Shia. Don't pick and choose quotes from Al-kafi, accept them all or nothing at all.
if you beleive n quran you shouldnt say that The pillars you are mentioning are fabricated. you are free to follow those pillars. if u dont beleive in quran then u are not even muslm..thats all
Dear SeyedIranian, I have read your points carefully and commented them all point by point as I am an Ismaili. I request you to read my comments and respect my freedom of speech (as you claim that there is a freedom of speech) by not deleting them please... Maybe you'll understand why I'll always be Ismaili and why I consider myself as muslim... Thank you ! May Allah protect you and bless you always...
(cont'd) but let me ask you, how many things prescribed in the Qu'ran don't you obey? There are probably too many to count, so please look at your own actions before you judge others. 5) How many Muslims are there in this world, your own city that don't go on Hajj? Countless so don't try to claim otherwise. Do you know the reason muslims preform Hajj? It is because they want to get blessings from the prophet (p.b.u.h.) As the direct descendant of the prophet (p.b.u.h.) and hazrat ali (pbuh)...
We can't judge anyone because the judging is only meant to our creater Allah Swt but anyways when it comes to Islam, you can't necessarily claim that title of the being a "muslim" if you don't follow the five pillars that both Sunni & Shia Muslims normally follow.. Ismailis only follow one pillar which is Zakat and that Zakat goes only to there people.. Even based off research Ismailism & Ahmadiasm are attempts by great super powers to end Islam, both sects Islam popped up around the same time during 1800-1900, you can't trace them back further then that, and one of the biggest proofs of this plan is the fact that both sects of Islam forbid the idea of converting people into Islam, they will harm or kill any outsider who steps forth into there Mosques which is only the opposite of Islam, Islam is about peace, love, and equality and our job as Muslims is too spread our religion that's full of love as much as we can
Lol of the day. Or Tm logu k molviu ka kiya hisab hai Jo namaz b party hai or azan b dy Ty but in the end of the day bachu ko Quran Paranay k bahanay un ka rape krty hai or Kat kut k phank dyty hai.
8-hijab is basically of our actions or what you mean is if a person wears a hijab they are pure from inside? 9-Hazrat hussain is a martyr and those who grieve upon his death think he was powerless on the other hand he was imam he could have done anything. 10-Aazan is to remind us of prayer so in USA their is no aazan so any muslim over here is considered non muslim? 11-give me even one reference to validate your point!about agha khan is god? 12-Do you follow what is said in surah fatiha?
It is same prayer what is in Quran? Only difference is you bow down to ALLAH just 16 times in your 5 time prayer. And we Bow down 18 time in our prayer.So think about that howmuch we love to ALLAH and PROPHET And his family (Imams). And I don't howmuch do u know about Quran. In Quran and between 124 thousand true muslim HE said " TO WHOM I AM A MAWALA TO THEN ALI IS MAWALA" It means that After I (prophet) live this world physically you will follow ALI and Quran.
@0991786 If you're talking about Sultan Muhammad Shah (previous Aga Khan), there are a lot of things that the present Aga Khan changed and said it wasn't the right way with his grandfather ! Mazhar means the light (not the manifestation) go check wikipedia. So he said he's the light of Allah as he guides the people who are blind, ignorant or cannot read toward the path of Allah. (Symbolism : Light = guidance)
As salaam u alaikum brothers and sisters.I felt it necessary to respond to a few made by the uploader of this video. The person you are criticizing has spent over fifty years of his life to further the improvement of non-denominational humans across the world. Our hazir Imam believes in Allah as the sole creator and worthy of praise.
1) isn't allah everywhere, dosen't he watch your every move? 2)yes we don't do wazu...we take showers b4 we come to pray, isn't that technically wazu? i mean in the old time ppl didn't have that facility, but now you do. 3) Do you think allah cares how you are praying to him, as long as you are praying to him? right? and we do pray to allah. how many of you say your namaz 5 times a day? everyday? ok so we pray in the morning and in the evening, because that's when you can focus.
The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said: "I am leaving for you two precious and weighty Symbols that if you adhere to BOTH of them you shall not go astray after Me. They are, the Book of Allah, and my Progeny, that is my Ahlul-Bayt. The Merciful (Allah) has informed me that these two shall not separate from each other till they come to Me by the Pool (of Paradise)." Sahih al Tirmidhi, v5, pp 662-663 (Sunni source)
Lets not forget about Aga Khans extramarital affairs. The man committed adultery on numerous occasions. The Holy Quran specifically states to not commit adultery. So, my question is why do Ismailis think of him as a great and spiritual leader?
@shazeen10000 actually in Surah An- Nur it does say something about women covering their bosoms and such. in various tafseer it explains the reasons behind it; to subjugate women is not the intention of what Islam tries to say. moreso rather that the West has a different concept of what equality actually is. thus making many think that hijab inherently is a bad thing but its rather that people THINK its bad; its just a covering -.- whats more important, her inner qualities,arewhatshouldshow
I know some ismailis that go to the hussayneya on muharam! therefore they DO remember imam hussain! Is your information actually based on true facts or are u just making it up?
this guy is Loaded and enjoying his money and you people are blind sheep lost who ever follows this Agha Khan who claims to be whatever it is he claims. Come to the real Islam it is a beautiful faith
Ans3: Ofcourse it is, whos Aga Khan first know about it, Aga Khan is offspring of Hazrat Ali I think you might not know about the Kham-e-Khadeer what the Prophet Muhammad said in Kham-e-Khadeer and also recite the Suray Al-Nisah 36, aya 14. then u will get know
We don't want you to have to accept Ismaili'ism, but we simply want mutual respect. As followers of the same faith, that's necessary for the world's problems to be solved. Islam is a faith of questioning, so please ask as many questions about faiths and sects as possible, but unless you understand them fully, please don't base judgements on them.
5. The Hujjat ( Ultimate proof ) of God can not be established without Imam. (Al- Kaafi, Vol.1 Pg. 177) 6. "The declaration of Ali as Apostle hood". (Al- Kafi, Vol. 1 Pg. 197) 7. In the night of Power God sent yearly commandments of an Imam. (Al- Kafi, Vol. 1 Pg. 248) 8. Imam knows his hour of death and his death is in his control. (Al- Kafi, Vol. 1,Pg No. 258) 9. Shia's claim nothing is hidden from the Imams, they've a complete knowledge of past, present, future. ( Vol.1, Pg. 260)
The prophet said"It is probable that I will be called soon, and I will respond. So I leave behind me two weighty (very worthy and important) things: the Book of Allah (the Qur'an), which is a string stretched from the heaven to the earth; and my progeny, my ahl al-bayt. Verily Allah, the Merciful, the Aware, has informed me that these two will never be separated from each other until they meet me at the Fountain of Abundance. Therefore, be careful how you treat these two in my absence."
You are Muslim but not Momin yet, you only follow the first step of Islam (Shariyat) my dear brother can you explain what is Tariqat, Haqiqat and Marifat ? if you do have knowledge i would appreciate ?
Its definiately unfair for people to label us as non-muslims just because we have a slightly different interpretation of the belief system in Islam. It is true that we believe our Beloved Hazar Imam to be the 49th Imam and direct descendant of the first Imam Hazarat Ali (SAS) who was undeniably (as we believe) appointed as the first Imam by the Prophert Muhammed (SAS) at "Ghadir-e-Kum" It was said by the Prophet himself "He whose Mawla I am, Ali is his Mawla" From this we have continued our...
What you're referring to comes from culture and hadith that contradict the Quran and God's true message. especially when it comes to treatment of women. Furthermore, for Ismailis to say that the Quran is outdated and that the Aga Khan is the living replacement for the Quran is ludicrous. He was CHOSEN by his grand father. He's not God. Or was his Grandfather seen as a god that passed his godliness (estafurallah) to him.
The point isn't whether or not you physically clean yourself. The point that is being discussed, as per your assertion, is whether or not ablution can be done at home or the mosque, but the process in which Muslims are supposed to take in which to clean themselves physically before they proceed towards spiritual cleasing (ie. the prescribed prayers, salat). What Ismailis are doing is an innovation not approved by God.
Your dua goes something like this, depending on which country..In the US it goes "Yaa noor maulana shah karim, hamara gunah maaf karjo" is that not shirk..how can a man forgive your sins..You are all kidding me when you say you don't do shirk....you are all quoting me from the QURAN...99.99% of the Ismailis have not seen the HOLY QURAN..AGAIN the Question here is not HAZARAT...whenever i ask the legitimacy of AGAKHAn you people jump on Hazarat Ali...Hazarat Ali had nothing to do with Ismailism,
i dnt think you will find answers your questions here. u should try the books or other contents on Islamic history or any content that u think will answer your question. because the differences have been in the picture since like more than 200 yrs. So u should look for ur answers in some approved, scholastic and unbiased opinionated content.
'teach you how create conflict in name of Allah'? Is that what ur imam says about his own supposed ancestors? As a ismaili muslim I think u should have respect for all the imams before ur current imam.
As-Salam-o-Aliqum. Dear I am Waseem Haider; an Ismaili. I have just read your message about the following our Beloved Holly Prophet (PBUH). You may see the Quranic Ayat 59 Surah 4(surah Nissa). Almighty Allah Says "Obey Allah, His Prphet and the Person having Authority among You".
Are u suggesting that none of the 15 million Ismailis worldwide possess any of these 'traits'? If so, I believe you have come into contact with individuals who believe themselves to be Ismaili but cannot truly be labelled so. And following this, you would seem to imply that Ismaili's do not possess the traits of Mawlana Ali, yet all other Muslims do... If you believe this, then again you are truly mistaken as no religion has followers who are all ideal.
*********IMPORTANT*************** The Glorious Quran mentions in several verses, Obey Allah and obey His Messenger. A true Muslim should only follow the Glorious Quran and the Sahih Hadith. He can agree with the views of any scholar as long as they conform to the teachings of the Quran and Sahih Hadith. If such views go against the Word of Allah, or the Sunnah of His Prophet, then they carry no weight, regardless of how learned the scholar might be.
(cont'd) 10) Why not? What is wrong with a kid reciting and leading our prayer. You my friend are forgetting there is a fundamental difference between the age of the soul and the age of the body. Whoever leads the prayer, it is up to every individual to know the meaning behind their prayer, and recite it along with the leader. 11) Of course we follow what we recite. Although it may seem to you (very wrongly so) that we pray and worship Aga Khan, we worship him as our religious leader, not as
have to follow those pillars..if your imam is true one then why he changedevertything...in islam allah says to cover womans head with hijab..why did your imam forbidds it ??? INSHALLAH very soon i will post videos and exposed you guyz..with logic soon.. iam shia muslim way of prophet and 12 imams you guyz are not even shia....
1. Ismailis Ka'baa while praying because it's never been an obligation... Ka'baa has become a Muslim symbol after our beloved Prophet (PBUH) made it a symbol... But it wasn't even built by muslims because Islam didn't exist at the time of its construction... But it's not FORBIDDEN to face Ka'baa ! 2. Wuddu is indeed an obligation of every muslim and I as an Ismaili do the wuddu before praying... (Don't generalize when you see Kafars)
u r right, there is no point of arguing with people who r nothing but ignorant! They will realize it but hope tht it won't be too late for them...
if ismaili's don't fast during ramadan, are you telling me that ALL OTHER MUSLIMS DO? lol. Mate, look at your own environment and then step into another.
+living2damax ..2 wrongs don't make a right .. also in islam fasting is compulsory -those who don't follow it is their headache ---whereas its not compulsory in Ismailis
blue bird In ismailism fasting is also compulsory? Those who don't is their headache too! So your point is...
+living2damax is it compulsory ? r u sure about that answer? ...is it ever being announced or told to you in jk to fast or they tell you not to disclose to others that you r not fasting
blue bird Yes it is. In imams speeches during the month of ramadan, it is said and spoken. Don't drink, fast, take advantage of education etc..
+living2damax which speeches???.. please give me exact reference and details...your reply is not very convincing sorry
@erm596 Ten Plz make me Undestand What is Ismailism. From Which time this Firqa Started?
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But his messenger is not alive so what we gonna do now..??
just a question...where exactly does it say that the hijab has to be worn in the Quran?
Can you tell me where the five Pillars came from, like who made them?
It's in hadeeth of Prophet Mohammad which ismailis don't beleive in.
"If a person is intelligent and pious
His piety occupies him from the sins of others
Just like the ill one is kept preoccupied
From the sickness of others by his own sickness" - Imam Shafi'
'Can't we all get along? ' - Rodney King
@fardoon - It is refreshing to hear that you wish to discuss and attempt to understand the Ismaili's differing belief system and are simply not dismissing it with no wish to hear what we believe. I believe that more non-Ismaili Muslims should be as willing as you to talk about these different views. There is an article on Wikipedia under the name "Ismailism" which (whether written by an Ismaili or not) is very informative about the early split and divisions in Islam leading to the Ismaili branch
These facts are incorrect. If you want to preach about being a good Muslim then please don't be ignorant.
Ismailism is a false religion
i'll give you answers:
1- so basically you mean Allah is only present in the Holy Kabha?
2-tell me you do not need to tell someone basics it is obvious every human performs wudu before their prayers!
3-if we are suppose to do the prayer given by prophet how come shias follow 12 imams prayers?
4-where in the quran does it mention prayer five times a day?
5-who says we do not keep fast?donot believe in what you hear!
6-who says we do not do hajj? it has the same importance as it is to you!
thanks bro but i m tired when i try to find some of our videos it comes across
@ fardoon - I understand where you come from and I respect the fact that you do not have the same beliefs as Ismailis. But what you call our "whims" or "desires" are our "beliefs" so I would hope that you would show our faith the same respect which we show to all other religions.
P.S. I appreciate the fact that you did not respond with highly inappropriate cursing and profanity! lol.. I much prefer responding to persons who respond to me in a civilised way so much appreciated Fardoon!
Similarly, we are told to do Hajj, no Imam has told us Ismaili's NOT to do Hajj, and once again, if the individual decides not to do Hajj that is a personal choice and not representative of the principles of our Tariqah. We also give our dasond equating to 12.5% of our earnings, indeed some also give not only on earning but ANY money which they receive. Is this principle not almost identical to what other Muslims term zakaat?
May Allah protect the true family's of our beloved prophet(PBUH).....
I still didn't get an answer from you about parent and imam worship, or did you use the word by mistake?
All misconceptions. Would love to clear things up for you. What questions do you have?
May Allah bless all Ismailies!
The response was supposed to be posted in choronological order, but for some reason my responses to reasons 3,4, and part of #5 were not posted. Please read in that order.
do u recite Salawat
in salawat we say "Allahumah SaleAllah Muhammad wa AleMuhammad" who is allemuhammad Ali, Fatimah, Hassan, Hussain??? or your Imams Shafi,Hambal, ABu Hanifa, Imam Malik?????
I have nowhere in the Quran read that we must pray five times a day. Does it not say pray once at daybreak and twice at the going down of the sun? I think so. We are not absolved from fasting, we are told to and if unable for whatever reason to do so, se are to make up the days missed. If certain Ismailis decide not to fast that is their choice, but do not suggest that fasting is not an Ismaili principle.
2- Before Ismailis make there Dua they do not make wudu(washing before prayer).
Ans: Wudu is must before you performing Namaz and Ismailis perform DUA.
I want to add the the hadis ends at the part ...to which I am my companions belong"
The bow before Allah... part is added by me. I am sorry for not inserting inverted commas. [text copied from REPLIES TO THE MOST COMMON QUESTIONS ASKED BY NON-MUSLIMS by Dr. ZAKIR NAIK]
Proud to be Shia Imami Ismaili.
Lol even shias don't claim you. What a shame.
Andhe ho chuke logo se kya bahesr karna
Muslims were to pray 3 times a day in the Qur'an ([1]salat al-fajr at dawn; [2] salat al-esha at night [24:58]; [3] al salat al-wusta at midday [Qur'an 2:238]) after the Jewish three-fold pattern of prayers [shakharith, minkah, and arbith]) but the number of prayers was later increased to five (fajr, dhuhr, asr, maghrib, isha'a) to match the number of prayers (gahs) required by the Persian Zoroastrians
And just as a counter to one of your points, the Qu'ran never states that all Muslims must pray 5 times a day, in fact it says that prayer should be kept at the two ends of the day and once in the evening. It was the Prophet (may his soul rest in peace), who told some of his most devout followers to stop praying throughout the day in order for them to earn their daily bread. He is then to have said that for those who want to pray extra, they can pray 2 times extra on top of the 3.
Sorry i have to cut spaces to fit all charaters cause there is no more space.
how is he an imam?...have any proof?
anyone can come to you and say iam imam
???????????
u do not accept Suray Al-Nisah and saying about about the rest of the preaching....
if you said that to me i am sorry to offend you, it was not my intention please...read my msg again...i just said we have to follow Quran and Hadith of our Prophet Muhammad pbuh and not fight amongst ourselves as we are not sunni, shia or ismaili, we are muslims!
7- They do not remember Imam Hussein or Muharram or ashura so now imam Hussein is of no importance to them, then why they call themselves as Shia?
Ans: was Imam Hussein shaheed by any Kafir or the people who accept the Islam? Bcuz of u people Imams migrate to different countries.
@darlingofgirls007 Was this response for me? In that case, I never said I was wasting my time. The reason I wrote my super long response was to clarify the misconceptions the poster of this video had about my religion. This was not meant to be an attempt to convince anyone that my faith is superior to anyone else's therefore I cannot fathom where you get jealousy from...
As you was kind enough to quote from Al-Kafi, I thought I'd do the same.
1. All Imams are equal in rank and status to Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.w). (Al- Kafi, Vol. No. 1, Pg. 270)
2. Follow the Imam when he is under the state of Taqi'ah. (Al- Kafi, Vol. No. 1, Pg. 40)
3. Scriptures of God reveled to Imam. (Al- Kafi, Vol. No. 1, Pg. 176)
4. We are the eyes of the God in his creature and the final authority in all human beings. (Al- Kafi, Vol. No. 1, Pg. 145)
Wouls you like more quotes ?
[Quran; 2:125] We have rendered the shrine (the Ka`aba) a focal point for the people, and a safe sanctuary. You may use Abraham's shrine as a prayer house. We commissioned Abraham and Ismail: "You shall purify My house for those who visit, those who live there, and those who bow and prostrate."
[Quran; 2:127] As Abraham raised the foundations of the shrine, together with Ismail (they prayed): "Our Lord, accept this from us. You are the Hearer, the Omniscient.
plz do not comment on the religion cause every one is with his religion
You've come here talking that we are not muslim,,,
Where is your imam????
you just tell me this
Somehow some of my comments were not posted, so I will post again.
3) There are 49 imams in my faith my friend, and it is not the prayer of Aga Khan, it is a prayer of Allah. There are many different sects of Islam, which is correct and which isnt is up to Allah to decide.
4) If this isn't a preposterous lie, I don't know what is. A lot of Ismailis do fast, but our faith doesn't make it mandatory for us to do so, the reasons for which are so complex this is not the forum to discuss them.
@DONawshad Prophet Muhammad used to do 2 prayers in the morning, 1 at noon, and 2 in the evening which makes a total of 5.
3. Our Du'a is composed by 6 surat (more than the amount of obligatory surat in the namaaz) and the only thing which is said about Aga Khan in the du'a is that he's our present IMAM (not god, the use of the word "Lord" is not referencing Allah but respect to Aga Khan as every culture did with their own kings or rajas...)
We do our Du'a 3times a day like our beloved Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) did... (No time to do 5 prayers a day during wartime, so he used to do 2 in the morning, 1 noon, 1 evening)
I’m a Christian and grew up with an Ismaili best friend.
I can say that I prefer Ismaili company to muslim company. I would say Ismailism is superior, more humane than Islam.
Vamper Vlad it does not matter what you prefer, it is what Allah prefers and Allah prefers the best for his creation.
@diabhayo I am sorry, but I do not know what an Aalimah is. Ismailis don't wear hijabs.
If want to know about pillar of ISLAM late me know i will u more.
o really.. so u beleive in allah..and his noor..that good.then why have your imam agha khan changed the pillars of islam..namaz,roza,hajj?...does;t it clearly says in quran allah's book that you
5- They do not perform Hajj which every muslim must perform at least once if they are well enough and can afford to. instead its more important to them if they have a glimpse of Aga Khan in thier dream.
Ans: who was born in Ka'baa, Ali or someone else, and the offspring of Ali is the Aga Khan. we have been following his offspring till now and tilll the end.
@AghaKKhan What are you talking about ? Aga Khanis never said that their Imam was a incarnation of anyone. It's true that the first INDIANS (there are more Syrian Ismailis) were Hindu converted to Islam through Ismailism. So the influence is only on the Tariqah (Culture) not in their faith. e.g. : Ginans (kind of Indian qasidas) is musically like Hindu prayers and are in a mix of Gujrati-Kachi. But the lyrics are pure devotion to Allah only. They must respect each 5 pillars as every muslim does.
if u guys believe in Quran, Allah and Prophet (S.A.W), just give me one ayat where it says that their will b a descent of Hazrat Ali.. we believe in there is no God except Allah and Prophet (P.B.U.H) is his last messanger. this is not attacking some one's religion, u people are making fun and making adjustment in ISLAM which is not allowed. we are all obliged to raise our voices against such an act.
so u tell me how r u muslim?
whats the foundation
@0991786
"I am leaving among you two weighty things: the one being the Book of Allah in which there is right guidance and light, so hold fast to the Book of Allah and adhere to it. He exhorted (us) (to hold fast) to the Book of Allah and then said: The second are the members of my household I remind you (of your duties) to the members of my family..." Sahih Muslim Book 031, Number 5920
Is this factual enough?
You follow up your response with "you CLAIM to follow Maula Ali as your Maula.... yet none of the traits of the Maula are found in any of you" - I assume you meant religious rituals/ceremonies. In this case, I believe I have answered your statement with the below responses. If indeed you meant "traits" or 'characteristics' then your supposition is highly generalised and somewhat mis-informed. Mawla Ali was kind, generous, loving, etc.
3. We also do the sajada (Which is obligatory) 6 times in the du'a !
4. Ramadan is again, an obligation for every muslims... It's not because some Ismailis don't do it that it's not in the obligations of an Ismaili... (There are alot of other Shia that don't do Ramadan...) Don't generalize !
5. Same ! Hajj is an obligatory and my ancestors did it (they are Ismailis)
6. Hijab is meant to be worn during prayers ! Give me the exact place in the Quran where it's said that Hijjab is compulsary...
According to Tirmidhi Hadith No. 171, the prophet (pbuh) is reported to have
said, My Umma will be fragmented into seventy-three sects, and all of them will
be in Hell fire except one sect. The companions asked Allahs messenger
which group that would be. Where upon he replied, It is the one to which I and
my companions belong.
Bow before Allah, follow his messenger and ask Allah for guidance constantly whoever you are...We are truly divided right now sadly...
5:6] O you who believe, when you observe the Contact Prayers (Salat), you shall: (1) wash your faces, (2) wash your arms to the elbows, (3) wipe your heads, and (4) wash your feet to the ankles.
I would include the rest but you can read the remainder yourself. Ablution is not based on Hadith but Quran. God prescribed a specific way of cleansing before prayer, NOT the prophet.
Why are you avoiding my question?
@Damloti2 Sorry but I didn't understand your point brother... You're accusing me of heresy but why ? Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) had warned against "challenger nonsubmitter" but as I know as a Shi'a, the prophet (PBUH) said in Ghadir-e-kum that he was letting the holy Quran and his descendants behind him and Aga Khan is a living descendant of Hazrat Ali which gives him the power to guide us, not to rule us instead of Allah ! ONLY GUIDANCE ! Understood ? And don't insult me by saying i'm heretic !!!
I humbly reuest you to name me your infallible guide?
and we should all praise such enlightened individuals, not spread false accusations. Also, as another responder pointed out the Quran does not oblige us to pray five times a day, it indicates to pray once at sunrise, and twice in the evenings. If we like to pray more than the prescribed times we should do so without anyone telling us.The more prayers, the more closer we can hope to have a relationship with Allah S.W.T.
May you Answer that Who is that Authority to whome we should obey now. As there is no any person in world having direct Conversation with Allah. Also Prpphet is not present within us (in the apparent sense). the only person havig authority should be consulted (if Quran and Sunnah is not obvious on any matter). You may differ from us but we believe the Aga Khan is that person.
this comment that we dont need Allah is tottally wrong.
1- Ismailis do not face the Ka'baa while praying instead they think all is everywhere and choose there own ways.
Ans: First u must get to know about the true meaning of DUA and Namaz. Ismailis do not face the Ka'baa while praying its true cause while performing Namaz its very important to face the ka'baa and Ismailis do Pray and pray and namaz is different
@fardoon - as an additional point, I am a "Shia Imami (due to my belief in the Imams) Ismaili, Nizari Muslim" - The Nizari sect of Ismaili's are the largest with approximately 18 million believers all over the world.
@0991786 This part is not in the Du'a but in the Tasbih after (and it's only in the indian tradition that we ask through Hazrat Ali) but Ismailism is not the only section to do so.. Why pointing the finger at them ? Let's take the example of Sufism. Don't you listen to qawali ? In Sufism, they have a spiritual master called Murshad (Sheikh/Pir) who is a link which takes roots in Muhammad (PBUH) and his cousin + son-in-law, Ali, who is held by Sufis to be the foutainhead of mystical knowledge.
@0991786 Just a question... Where do you live ? How many times and how far did you go out of your country ? There are Ismailis around the world... From Canada to Japan, Australia to USA, Russia to South Africa, East, North, South, West there are Ismailis. Would you say you've seen all the Ismailis in the world ? I'm proud to be a Muslim and I'm afraid only of Allah... That's why your accusation towards my faith don't afraid me because I'm devoted to Allah only and I have no master except Him...
Why don't you read the entire collection of Al-Kafi and ask yourself why you are a Shia. Don't pick and choose quotes from Al-kafi, accept them all or nothing at all.
if you beleive n quran you shouldnt say that The pillars you are mentioning are fabricated. you are free to follow those pillars.
if u dont beleive in quran then u are not even muslm..thats all
Dear SeyedIranian,
I have read your points carefully and commented them all point by point as I am an Ismaili. I request you to read my comments and respect my freedom of speech (as you claim that there is a freedom of speech) by not deleting them please... Maybe you'll understand why I'll always be Ismaili and why I consider myself as muslim...
Thank you !
May Allah protect you and bless you always...
(cont'd) but let me ask you, how many things prescribed in the Qu'ran don't you obey? There are probably too many to count, so please look at your own actions before you judge others.
5) How many Muslims are there in this world, your own city that don't go on Hajj? Countless so don't try to claim otherwise. Do you know the reason muslims preform Hajj? It is because they want to get blessings from the prophet (p.b.u.h.) As the direct descendant of the prophet (p.b.u.h.) and hazrat ali (pbuh)...
We can't judge anyone because the judging is only meant to our creater Allah Swt but anyways when it comes to Islam, you can't necessarily claim that title of the being a "muslim" if you don't follow the five pillars that both Sunni & Shia Muslims normally follow.. Ismailis only follow one pillar which is Zakat and that Zakat goes only to there people.. Even based off research Ismailism & Ahmadiasm are attempts by great super powers to end Islam, both sects Islam popped up around the same time during 1800-1900, you can't trace them back further then that, and one of the biggest proofs of this plan is the fact that both sects of Islam forbid the idea of converting people into Islam, they will harm or kill any outsider who steps forth into there Mosques which is only the opposite of Islam, Islam is about peace, love, and equality and our job as Muslims is too spread our religion that's full of love as much as we can
Lol of the day. Or Tm logu k molviu ka kiya hisab hai Jo namaz b party hai or azan b dy Ty but in the end of the day bachu ko Quran Paranay k bahanay un ka rape krty hai or Kat kut k phank dyty hai.
You don’t really believe Islam is about peace. You must be a pretty ignorant muslim if you think so.
8-hijab is basically of our actions or what you mean is if a person wears a hijab they are pure from inside?
9-Hazrat hussain is a martyr and those who grieve upon his death think he was powerless on the other hand he was imam he could have done anything.
10-Aazan is to remind us of prayer so in USA their is no aazan so any muslim over here is considered non muslim?
11-give me even one reference to validate your point!about agha khan is god?
12-Do you follow what is said in surah fatiha?
It is same prayer what is in Quran? Only difference is you bow down to ALLAH just 16 times in your 5 time prayer. And we Bow down 18 time in our prayer.So think about that howmuch we love to ALLAH and PROPHET And his family (Imams).
And I don't howmuch do u know about Quran. In Quran and between 124 thousand true muslim HE said " TO WHOM I AM A MAWALA TO THEN ALI IS MAWALA" It means that After I (prophet) live this world physically you will follow ALI and Quran.
@0991786 If you're talking about Sultan Muhammad Shah (previous Aga Khan), there are a lot of things that the present Aga Khan changed and said it wasn't the right way with his grandfather ! Mazhar means the light (not the manifestation) go check wikipedia. So he said he's the light of Allah as he guides the people who are blind, ignorant or cannot read toward the path of Allah. (Symbolism : Light = guidance)
As salaam u alaikum brothers and sisters.I felt it necessary to respond to a few made by the uploader of this video. The person you are criticizing has spent over fifty years of his life to further the improvement of non-denominational humans across the world. Our hazir Imam believes in Allah as the sole creator and worthy of praise.
1) isn't allah everywhere, dosen't he watch your every move?
2)yes we don't do wazu...we take showers b4 we come to pray, isn't that technically wazu? i mean in the old time ppl didn't have that facility, but now you do.
3) Do you think allah cares how you are praying to him, as long as you are praying to him? right? and we do pray to allah. how many of you say your namaz 5 times a day? everyday? ok so we pray in the morning and in the evening, because that's when you can focus.
The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said: "I am leaving for you two precious and weighty Symbols that if you adhere to BOTH of them you shall not go astray after Me. They are, the Book of Allah, and my Progeny, that is my Ahlul-Bayt. The Merciful (Allah) has informed me that these two shall not separate from each other till they come to Me by the Pool (of Paradise)." Sahih al Tirmidhi, v5, pp 662-663 (Sunni source)
Lets not forget about Aga Khans extramarital affairs. The man committed adultery on numerous occasions. The Holy Quran specifically states to not commit adultery. So, my question is why do Ismailis think of him as a great and spiritual leader?
So your point is Agakhan will never marry an Ismaili or an other muslim
@shazeen10000
actually in Surah An- Nur it does say something about women covering their bosoms and such. in various tafseer it explains the reasons behind it; to subjugate women is not the intention of what Islam tries to say. moreso rather that the West has a different concept of what equality actually is. thus making many think that hijab inherently is a bad thing but its rather that people THINK its bad; its just a covering -.- whats more important, her inner qualities,arewhatshouldshow
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Born in 1936. Dad Got Married in 1946.
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I know some ismailis that go to the hussayneya on muharam! therefore they DO remember imam hussain!
Is your information actually based on true facts or are u just making it up?
You really think worshipping pictures of Agakhan is a small thing....remember pagans of Arabia
You know this is getting funnier and funnier, because you keep quoting the quran, yet there is not a single copy of quran in any jamatkhanas..WHY
There you have it...No further Questions for you..I pray to Allah to show us the Right path...AMIN
this guy is Loaded and enjoying his money and you people are blind sheep lost who ever follows this Agha Khan who claims to be whatever it is he claims. Come to the real Islam it is a beautiful faith
Aga khan is who founded many foundation to help humanities and this an good example
Ans3: Ofcourse it is, whos Aga Khan first know about it, Aga Khan is offspring of Hazrat Ali I think you might not know about the Kham-e-Khadeer what the Prophet Muhammad said in Kham-e-Khadeer
and also recite the Suray Al-Nisah 36, aya 14. then u will get know
Are you avoiding my question AGAIN
We don't want you to have to accept Ismaili'ism, but we simply want mutual respect. As followers of the same faith, that's necessary for the world's problems to be solved.
Islam is a faith of questioning, so please ask as many questions about faiths and sects as possible, but unless you understand them fully, please don't base judgements on them.
5. The Hujjat ( Ultimate proof ) of God can not be established without Imam. (Al- Kaafi, Vol.1 Pg. 177)
6. "The declaration of Ali as Apostle hood". (Al- Kafi, Vol. 1 Pg. 197)
7. In the night of Power God sent yearly commandments of an Imam. (Al- Kafi, Vol. 1 Pg. 248)
8. Imam knows his hour of death and his death is in his control. (Al- Kafi, Vol. 1,Pg No. 258)
9. Shia's claim nothing is hidden from the Imams, they've a complete knowledge of past, present, future. ( Vol.1, Pg. 260)
The prophet said"It is probable that I will be called soon, and I will respond. So I leave behind me two weighty (very worthy and important) things: the Book of Allah (the Qur'an), which is a string stretched from the heaven to the earth; and my progeny, my ahl al-bayt. Verily Allah, the Merciful, the Aware, has informed me that these two will never be separated from each other until they meet me at the Fountain of Abundance. Therefore, be careful how you treat these two in my absence."
You are Muslim but not Momin yet, you only follow the first step of Islam
(Shariyat) my dear brother can you explain what is Tariqat, Haqiqat and Marifat ? if you do have knowledge i would appreciate ?
Its definiately unfair for people to label us as non-muslims just because we have a slightly different interpretation of the belief system in Islam. It is true that we believe our Beloved Hazar Imam to be the 49th Imam and direct descendant of the first Imam Hazarat Ali (SAS) who was undeniably (as we believe) appointed as the first Imam by the Prophert Muhammed (SAS) at "Ghadir-e-Kum" It was said by the Prophet himself "He whose Mawla I am, Ali is his Mawla" From this we have continued our...
What you're referring to comes from culture and hadith that contradict the Quran and God's true message. especially when it comes to treatment of women.
Furthermore, for Ismailis to say that the Quran is outdated and that the Aga Khan is the living replacement for the Quran is ludicrous. He was CHOSEN by his grand father. He's not God. Or was his Grandfather seen as a god that passed his godliness (estafurallah) to him.
The point isn't whether or not you physically clean yourself. The point that is being discussed, as per your assertion, is whether or not ablution can be done at home or the mosque, but the process in which Muslims are supposed to take in which to clean themselves physically before they proceed towards spiritual cleasing (ie. the prescribed prayers, salat). What Ismailis are doing is an innovation not approved by God.
Not the question of shia sunni...Topic is about AGAKHAN..is he FAKE
If Prophet Mohammed were to come back now, no doubt he would be very proud is Ismaelia Tariqa.
Your dua goes something like this, depending on which country..In the US it goes "Yaa noor maulana shah karim, hamara gunah maaf karjo" is that not shirk..how can a man forgive your sins..You are all kidding me when you say you don't do shirk....you are all quoting me from the QURAN...99.99% of the Ismailis have not seen the HOLY QURAN..AGAIN the Question here is not HAZARAT...whenever i ask the legitimacy of AGAKHAn you people jump on Hazarat Ali...Hazarat Ali had nothing to do with Ismailism,
i dnt think you will find answers your questions here. u should try the books or other contents on Islamic history or any content that u think will answer your question. because the differences have been in the picture since like more than 200 yrs. So u should look for ur answers in some approved, scholastic and unbiased opinionated content.
'teach you how create conflict in name of Allah'? Is that what ur imam says about his own supposed ancestors? As a ismaili muslim I think u should have respect for all the imams before ur current imam.
As-Salam-o-Aliqum.
Dear I am Waseem Haider; an Ismaili. I have just read your message about the following our Beloved Holly Prophet (PBUH). You may see the Quranic Ayat 59 Surah 4(surah Nissa). Almighty Allah Says "Obey Allah, His Prphet and the Person having Authority among You".
Are u suggesting that none of the 15 million Ismailis worldwide possess any of these 'traits'? If so, I believe you have come into contact with individuals who believe themselves to be Ismaili but cannot truly be labelled so. And following this, you would seem to imply that Ismaili's do not possess the traits of Mawlana Ali, yet all other Muslims do... If you believe this, then again you are truly mistaken as no religion has followers who are all ideal.
*********IMPORTANT***************
The Glorious Quran mentions in several verses, Obey Allah and obey His
Messenger. A true Muslim should only follow the Glorious Quran and the
Sahih Hadith. He can agree with the views of any scholar as long as they
conform to the teachings of the Quran and Sahih Hadith. If such views go
against the Word of Allah, or the Sunnah of His Prophet, then they carry no
weight, regardless of how learned the scholar might be.
(cont'd) 10) Why not? What is wrong with a kid reciting and leading our prayer. You my friend are forgetting there is a fundamental difference between the age of the soul and the age of the body. Whoever leads the prayer, it is up to every individual to know the meaning behind their prayer, and recite it along with the leader.
11) Of course we follow what we recite. Although it may seem to you (very wrongly so) that we pray and worship Aga Khan, we worship him as our religious leader, not as
have to follow those pillars..if your imam is true one then why he changedevertything...in islam allah says to cover womans head with hijab..why did your imam forbidds it ???
INSHALLAH very soon i will post videos and exposed you guyz..with logic
soon..
iam shia muslim way of prophet and 12 imams
you guyz are not even shia....
1. Ismailis Ka'baa while praying because it's never been an obligation... Ka'baa has become a Muslim symbol after our beloved Prophet (PBUH) made it a symbol... But it wasn't even built by muslims because Islam didn't exist at the time of its construction... But it's not FORBIDDEN to face Ka'baa !
2. Wuddu is indeed an obligation of every muslim and I as an Ismaili do the wuddu before praying... (Don't generalize when you see Kafars)