Wendell also had a cameo appearance in our 1920X revisit: ua-cam.com/video/AIiE_ZiLVOY/v-deo.html Subscribe to Level1Techs: ua-cam.com/channels/4w1YQAJMWOz4qtxinq55LQ.html
So glad you guys are having Wendell on, inredibly knowledgeable dude. Has helped me learn about networking/security and not to get a Smart TV lol. Whenever i decide to make the NAS/Plex Server leap, Level1 is where ill head. Plus they have one of the best new shows in the biz
Not even Tech Tubers anymore. I came home one day and he was just there in my house with a box of tape drives, palm pilots, and cpus and was like "You wanna make a video?" And I was like "I have a NAS made out of SD cards" and he screamed at the horror of the very concept and fled through my old land-line jack. I'm frightened and uncertain when he will return.
So about the Japanese on the Sharp 電池ぶた is "battery cover" ロック is "lock" 使用時 is "while in use" 解除 is "release" 交換時 is "while changing" So basically it's a lock for the battery cover and it says to keep it locked while in use and to release the lock when you change the batteries.
I love the quote "It's such an elegant experience, even though it's DOS" @ 19:02 Well, you don't hear that every day. I feel like these items are from an era where computer hardware was created more with the intention of being a business tool than a consumer play-thing. Keep it up with the quirky/nostalgia videos. As much as we all love the latest and greatest tech, getting back to your "tech-roots" can provide some great perspective of where we're at today and how far we've come.
The perspective on where we have gone won't is nice too. I think portables have lost a lot of there usability in favor of cramming as many "features" as possible in. While removing "legacy techs" that people want, like say... A headphone jack
my Father used one of those HP Palmtops for a lot of years. i was pretty jealous of such a thing for quite a while because yeah, it was incredibly efficient and practical to make your life easier and faster to manage.
I love seeing old tech especially when it still works. Kind of makes me regret not keeping some of my own older tech. At the time when you replace something old you don't really care about it but when you look back later you kind of get a nostalgic feeling about the older stuff you had.
I ran a HP Journada 720 for many years. I used it mostly as a SSH client for IRC. I had both wifi and GPRS cards for chatting both at home and on the go.
Wendell - "This is a cherished life changing artifact from childhood that I spent an entire summer working for. The plastic has become brittle and it can break easy" Steve and his Semi-Conscience Hair - "Time for a tear-down!!!"
Heck yeah on the phones with keyboards! My first smartphone (PDA Phone) was a PPC 6700. Then went to HTC Mogul, then the Touch Pro. They all had fantastic keyboards. I was loading apps on my phone WAY before people had any idea what that was. :D
I attended prep and boarding school (in England) with students from China and Japan, and every single one of them had devices like these for (what mostly seemed to be) translation. But my favourite one was a student from Japan who had a colour Sharp device (form factor of the HP one in this video but colour screen). Edit: This was in 1996-99 for prep school so quite early for a colour touch screen.
Man, this brings back memories. I remember getting the Sharp Zaurus SL-C3100 when I was in college and tinkering endlessly with it. I still regret selling it a decade later..
That Black and White Prince of Persia game got me all the way back to college days of Pentium PCs, DOS and Windows 3.1. Playing DOOM, Road Rash and Prince of Persia.
I really do miss the slide out keyboards, maby with the phones like the LGv50 and motoZ we can get mods that allow for that feature. I really would not mind a chunkier phone for that added utility
We were using this Derive programm on our Laptops in school from 2007 to 2013 for our Math lessons. The Version we had was 6.1 the to this day newest version and they are probably still using it at my old school.
The HP200LX was my daily driver for a long time. I wish someone would revamp it with an arm processor running linux. I don't know any manufacturer that can get the keyboard right but HP though. It was awesome, and I could definitely thumb it a lot faster in 1995 than any smart phone now.
"I don't know how many people will watch it" Not many would be my guess, and I find it pretty "meh". But the chemistry between you two makes this a hillarious video anyways!
These videos are my favorite to watch, it's not just another deep dive into another disappointing product launch from intel, it's a interesting look into PC history and it's engaging for both Steve and the viewer
I love Wendell so much. In a way he reminds me to one of our IT instructors from "vocational school"*. He'd have so many stories & cool devices from back in the day, despite what some other students may have felt bored about; to me it was a joy almost every single day. You never really know what interesting details would come about even if the goal of that day was to cover a chapter (or several) of things like cpu sockets (their types, implementations, iterations, etc.). Memory (self explanatory, I won't make this extra long by expressing what would be in several pages of a textbook lol). Back to Wendell, I'm not much of a software guy but I can appreciate his patience & ability to elaborate on things that may have otherwise simply been overlooked. Hardware-wise, have to love the fact this man made mods & overclocked such tiny hand held devices, as Steve mentioned the word Enthusiast I don't think you can come any closer to a real example of an OG like Wendell! :) *(really just a fancy way of saying an accelerated course/program for CNST. With the intent that you also graduate along getting your A+ certification... But after that ofc you will undoubtedly find your niche that you wish to specialize in IF you truly love the world of IT and don't just do it for a paycheck.)
13:33 Slide out keyboards on PDA's and smartphones is something i miss to this day. There is not an on-screen keyboard that actually works properly 16:08 My very first computer had a copy of Rogue on it. I was only 8 when I got and never did really understand what to do in Rogue (i never did get a manual for it)
I love little dives into forgot things like this and the stories people have about them. Iike the BMCP6 is something that the person probably forgot about but is now something that stands out to a person who they never met
Gosh those are some honking massive Noctuas. Also, Wendell. Hayyyyyyy ♥️ Also. Also. What a neat little handheld. It's like a DS but useful and not dual. I would have killed for one of these back in the day. Also also also. Could a guy stuff a Pi into this?
First time I have seen another human being outside of my immediate family mention (let alone own) a word processor. I started to doubt my memory that such a thing existed.
I had Palm Zire 21 and the legendary iPAQ 2210, which helped me immensely during my univerisity years. Same MS decided to kill the PDA market for elusive chance to compete with Apple in the mass market (which this failed anyway)
the 100LX/200LX/1000CX and all other variants after the 95LX used an HP SoC called the Hornet which had an 80186 core and all the other stuff necessary sans ROM and RAM to run the palmtop, and because it was all on one chip aside from the obvious, it was able to get the runtime it did. I have friends in telecom that have modified them to run off lithium cells for super long run times and they still get used every so often for dialing into remote dial-in PBX systems and answering systems for configuration and maintenance. plenty of information out there if you want to get one and play around, but be warned that they're getting pricey and have their flaws after ~25 years.
Thanks for the trip down memory lane! Love the HP LX teardown. I have a few of these - I was one of the folks who followed the modding scene closely. I was bummed the backlit screen never became viable. I used one of these as portable dev workstation from 1992-2003-ish? Still have a stack of various PCMCIA cards to go in it. Good times!
Damn it Wendell why is it the first thing that came out of your mouth "This is the first handheld computer ever" is just so factually wrong.. its not even if you count MSDOS palmtops (anyone who's seen Terminator 2 would have seen the Atari Portfolio for example, and that started production in 1989) If you count non-MSDOS handheld computers they go back to like 1981
Great video. I’m one of those die-hard HP200LX users. Used mine daily until about 2004. It was souped-up, double-clocked and 32MB RAM upgrade. I even sent it into Thaddeus computing in the early 2000s to get the keyboard replaced. I still have it, but alas I threw away a bunch of the accessories over the years - things like a double-slot PCMCIA expander, an Ethernet card and a modem card. I even had one of those suction cup acoustic telephone modems for emergency use while traveling. I wrote tons of C programs on this machine, including an utility to interface the phone book with a Rex-3. Great memories, now I gotta go dust it off and see if I can still boot it.
Looking at that Canon computer reminds me that I still have two laptops from '94 '95 that still worked running DOS and Windows '95. I always get a kick from seeing my co-workers reactions when they check them out. Especially because most of them are Software Engineers.
I am BMC (P6). I am happy you did not find the embedded backdoor chip installed in the factory at my nation state masters' behest. All your docs are belong to us.
A friend had one of the HP handhelds; I wrote an option calculator for him. The cut down version of Lotus-123 didn't have a Log Normal Distribution function so I had to use a numerical approximation with as few float operations as possible. I miss the days of squeezing performance out of hardware - I have to play with microcontrollers to get the same buzz today.
The GPD Pocket 2 or the Mini Industry Laptop are likely better choices than the GPD Win for Wendell. They have a more basic keyboard layout and the Industrial one has serial and other IO features the others don't. The Pocket has a 1200 by 1920 display while the Industry model is only 720p but with way more features.
Wendell also had a cameo appearance in our 1920X revisit: ua-cam.com/video/AIiE_ZiLVOY/v-deo.html
Subscribe to Level1Techs: ua-cam.com/channels/4w1YQAJMWOz4qtxinq55LQ.html
lol its alot like my HP x2 i love it and its garbage all at the same time
So glad you guys are having Wendell on, inredibly knowledgeable dude. Has helped me learn about networking/security and not to get a Smart TV lol. Whenever i decide to make the NAS/Plex Server leap, Level1 is where ill head. Plus they have one of the best new shows in the biz
He just walked in I have no idea who he is
Love the Wendell Collabs. He’s all nerd and can’t help it in a good way.
If you enjoyed this video you may also like the Old Timey Computer Show over on twitch: www.twitch.tv/oldtimeycomputershow
Wendell just shows up at random in nearly every TechTuber's videos at this point.
Chris Frizzell He's basically the Burt Mustin of tech cameos now and you couldn't ask for a nicer guy to do that.
The tech Godfather does what he wants😈
Because he's all-knowing
Not even Tech Tubers anymore. I came home one day and he was just there in my house with a box of tape drives, palm pilots, and cpus and was like "You wanna make a video?"
And I was like "I have a NAS made out of SD cards" and he screamed at the horror of the very concept and fled through my old land-line jack.
I'm frightened and uncertain when he will return.
@@pokeguy742 YMMD thanks!
So about the Japanese on the Sharp
電池ぶた is "battery cover"
ロック is "lock"
使用時 is "while in use"
解除 is "release"
交換時 is "while changing"
So basically it's a lock for the battery cover and it says to keep it locked while in use and to release the lock when you change the batteries.
What, no Romaji? 😉
@@matthewkuhl79
Sure! In order:
denchibuta
rokku
shiyouji
kaijo
koukanji
@@williamwilliams6677 Hell yeah
@@williamwilliams6677 👍
"Rouge... Its a Nethack-like"
Love you Wendell
Yes, but can it run ADOM?
What’s up slackers tell Wendell I said hi!
We shall soon have more steak on a cast iron skillet in Taipei again. Or somewhere :D
The slacker has entered the chat.
wendell tron will be here sooner for sure!! Nice vid broski!!
i like Wendel and level1 techs. im glad he's shown up a few times here and there. to top it off, i love old hardware from the era i lived through.
A great video for us old timers. Thanks Steve & Wendell for the walk down memory lane :-)
I love the quote "It's such an elegant experience, even though it's DOS" @ 19:02 Well, you don't hear that every day. I feel like these items are from an era where computer hardware was created more with the intention of being a business tool than a consumer play-thing. Keep it up with the quirky/nostalgia videos. As much as we all love the latest and greatest tech, getting back to your "tech-roots" can provide some great perspective of where we're at today and how far we've come.
Aw, shucks. I didn't realize I'd lose the prestigious "
The perspective on where we have gone won't is nice too.
I think portables have lost a lot of there usability in favor of cramming as many "features" as possible in. While removing "legacy techs" that people want, like say... A headphone jack
Hearing Wendel through some good audio!!! WOW!!!
lol
Heh.
my Father used one of those HP Palmtops for a lot of years. i was pretty jealous of such a thing for quite a while because yeah, it was incredibly efficient and practical to make your life easier and faster to manage.
Why would I not watch this? 2 of my favorite people on the internet and I have selfies with both of them from LTX19!
And cool old tech on top.
Good stuff guys
You guys gotta have AkBKuKu over some time
I love seeing old tech especially when it still works. Kind of makes me regret not keeping some of my own older tech. At the time when you replace something old you don't really care about it but when you look back later you kind of get a nostalgic feeling about the older stuff you had.
I ran a HP Journada 720 for many years. I used it mostly as a SSH client for IRC.
I had both wifi and GPRS cards for chatting both at home and on the go.
Wendell - "This is a cherished life changing artifact from childhood that I spent an entire summer working for. The plastic has become brittle and it can break easy"
Steve and his Semi-Conscience Hair - "Time for a tear-down!!!"
Heck yeah on the phones with keyboards! My first smartphone (PDA Phone) was a PPC 6700. Then went to HTC Mogul, then the Touch Pro. They all had fantastic keyboards. I was loading apps on my phone WAY before people had any idea what that was. :D
have teached CAD to new students, its so hard to get them to use commands instead of fishing icons with the mouse for hours.
It's so hard to get into the habit of just using commands slowly but surely ill be able to fully get into said habit.
2:32 Physics class project : Nuclear magnetic resonance sensor. Me: Mind Blown
When Wendell said that, I pictured the Resonance Cascade scene from Half-Life 1, lol.
Please do more retro videos every now and then. I enjoy them from your perspective.
This was super cool! I love these videos on old tech. Gonna have to dig up my Palm Tx and relive the good old days.
I attended prep and boarding school (in England) with students from China and Japan, and every single one of them had devices like these for (what mostly seemed to be) translation. But my favourite one was a student from Japan who had a colour Sharp device (form factor of the HP one in this video but colour screen). Edit: This was in 1996-99 for prep school so quite early for a colour touch screen.
Yes the Game Gear was a big deal for that reason also.
Man, this brings back memories. I remember getting the Sharp Zaurus SL-C3100 when I was in college and tinkering endlessly with it. I still regret selling it a decade later..
How much did Gamers Nexus pay you to display all of that Gamers Nexus stuff all over your set?
Damn - I remember the LX100/200. Thanks for showing it off!!
2:31 what the hell kind of physics class did Wendell take?! That wasn't in any college physics class I took
In electronics engineering might be
I thought Wendel was holding his new phone that he had pre-ordered and I was excited for him.
I know! It had me fooled.
DELAYED AGAIN 😣 soon tho
11:10 stacking memory you mean that thing has proto HBM!
That Black and White Prince of Persia game got me all the way back to college days of Pentium PCs, DOS and Windows 3.1. Playing DOOM, Road Rash and Prince of Persia.
Love the oldskool tech videos!
"Rogue... It's a nethack-like"
EXCUSE ME
More Wendell collaboration!!! Ask the 8 Bit Guy for help restoring the canon
9:37 imagine writing that name in high school on your paperwork dozens of times a day... just writing a check would be a pain in the ass
Wendell is great, now that's a real professional right there!
I really do miss the slide out keyboards, maby with the phones like the LGv50 and motoZ we can get mods that allow for that feature. I really would not mind a chunkier phone for that added utility
We were using this Derive programm on our Laptops in school from 2007 to 2013 for our Math lessons. The Version we had was 6.1 the to this day newest version and they are probably still using it at my old school.
Made in Thailand
The HP200LX was my daily driver for a long time. I wish someone would revamp it with an arm processor running linux. I don't know any manufacturer that can get the keyboard right but HP though. It was awesome, and I could definitely thumb it a lot faster in 1995 than any smart phone now.
"I don't know how many people will watch it"
Not many would be my guess, and I find it pretty "meh". But the chemistry between you two makes this a hillarious video anyways!
Love the colabs! Especially with someone like Wendell!
Ayyy very nice video! Old machines are my jam!
Colonization 1
Hands down one of best games to run under 5Mb space
Yay I had both of those awesome trip down tech memory.
The term "spudger" is acceptable.
I miss physical keys on phones :(
Waste of screen space, plus sliding phones are wicked.
These videos are my favorite to watch, it's not just another deep dive into another disappointing product launch from intel, it's a interesting look into PC history and it's engaging for both Steve and the viewer
Wendell and Steve. My loins are burning.
I mean, it's practically illegal to dislike Wendell
That HP has still better multi-tasking capabilities than Android OS that came 15+ years later. That's sad.
Why am I not surprised.
I just can't believe how poorly optimized things are these days, and nearly no one compresses files anymore.
LOVE THIS TEAMUP!
Prince of Persia had great animation. I loved it for that alone.
The Atari Portfolio predated that by a couple years. Hand Held 8088 PC about the same form factor.
Serious Nostalgia Attack ❤️💕! I DID watch fully though and multiple times too, so something wierd with me? 🤔
This is an unstoppable matchup. Just bring in that bearded guy for muscle and nothing can stop your world domination.
definitely digging this episode of wendell's nexus. more, please :D
You will respect the authority of Big Clive! So that is called a Spudger!
Had an HP48SX calculator that got me through HS and college from '90-'94. Sold it on ebay in 2015 for $250 as I had everything even a printer for it.
Another couple decades and it will be a fortune.
Love the vintage hardware!
I love Wendell so much. In a way he reminds me to one of our IT instructors from "vocational school"*. He'd have so many stories & cool devices from back in the day, despite what some other students may have felt bored about; to me it was a joy almost every single day. You never really know what interesting details would come about even if the goal of that day was to cover a chapter (or several) of things like cpu sockets (their types, implementations, iterations, etc.). Memory (self explanatory, I won't make this extra long by expressing what would be in several pages of a textbook lol).
Back to Wendell, I'm not much of a software guy but I can appreciate his patience & ability to elaborate on things that may have otherwise simply been overlooked. Hardware-wise, have to love the fact this man made mods & overclocked such tiny hand held devices, as Steve mentioned the word Enthusiast I don't think you can come any closer to a real example of an OG like Wendell! :)
*(really just a fancy way of saying an accelerated course/program for CNST. With the intent that you also graduate along getting your A+ certification... But after that ofc you will undoubtedly find your niche that you wish to specialize in IF you truly love the world of IT and don't just do it for a paycheck.)
This triggered the early tech nostalgia hard. Damn, now I want another retro handheld PC. I had the Casio Cassiopeia and loved it.
Amazing video!
I bet Lazy Game Reviews would love to get his hands on some of those.
"this is for the engagement". There, we got you, Steve.
Engagement challenge!
13:33 Slide out keyboards on PDA's and smartphones is something i miss to this day. There is not an on-screen keyboard that actually works properly
16:08 My very first computer had a copy of Rogue on it. I was only 8 when I got and never did really understand what to do in Rogue (i never did get a manual for it)
The GPD Win 2 is so good. Always take mine everywhere for gaming
Prince of Persia and Zork, some serious throwbacks! :D
Wendell wins! He's got a Canon Cat, and it works--of sorts!!!
And, BTW, DOS was not inelegant. It had a beauty in simplicity that Windows lost.
I was born on the same year with these antiques.
I'm going to start calling my monitors addressable RGB.
I still sometimes wish that slide out keyboards on cellphones were still a thing
I love little dives into forgot things like this and the stories people have about them. Iike the BMCP6 is something that the person probably forgot about but is now something that stands out to a person who they never met
Gosh those are some honking massive Noctuas.
Also, Wendell. Hayyyyyyy ♥️
Also. Also. What a neat little handheld. It's like a DS but useful and not dual. I would have killed for one of these back in the day.
Also also also. Could a guy stuff a Pi into this?
that content is awesome ahah I would crave for more but it's okay!
Tech Jesus and Tech Godfather doing some actually cool tech reviews
Ohh hell yeah good combo of people
Next conspiracy theory: Noctua is paying GN for box placement 16:41 (NH-U12S TR4-SP3 box under table)
The noctua brown caught my eye...
Wendell's first word as a baby was Sudo
Level1Techs looks like videogamedunkeys dad they gotta collab
More Wendell!!!
Love old tech... got some of my own, but not this cool. Still have our first PC... Celeron 1.1 Ghrz from 2003. Can watch stuff like this all day
"Rogue. It's a NetHack-like."
Lol I got it backwards but nethack I played before rogue. I found rogue when nethack was too advanced for this thing haha
@@wendelltron lol, I assumed it was a joke. Got a good chuckle out of it.
Seeing "older" tech like this is always awesome. It is awesome to see how technology has evolved, both for the good and bad.
First time I have seen another human being outside of my immediate family mention (let alone own) a word processor.
I started to doubt my memory that such a thing existed.
I had Palm Zire 21 and the legendary iPAQ 2210, which helped me immensely during my univerisity years. Same MS decided to kill the PDA market for elusive chance to compete with Apple in the mass market (which this failed anyway)
the 100LX/200LX/1000CX and all other variants after the 95LX used an HP SoC called the Hornet which had an 80186 core and all the other stuff necessary sans ROM and RAM to run the palmtop, and because it was all on one chip aside from the obvious, it was able to get the runtime it did. I have friends in telecom that have modified them to run off lithium cells for super long run times and they still get used every so often for dialing into remote dial-in PBX systems and answering systems for configuration and maintenance. plenty of information out there if you want to get one and play around, but be warned that they're getting pricey and have their flaws after ~25 years.
God I am old I remember when these things were new products
Well hello Wendal!
This video exists, ergo I am happy.
"First handheld PC"
Laughs in Atari Portfolio
I had to check the comments to see if someone already reacted to that statement :D
Thanks for the trip down memory lane! Love the HP LX teardown. I have a few of these - I was one of the folks who followed the modding scene closely. I was bummed the backlit screen never became viable. I used one of these as portable dev workstation from 1992-2003-ish? Still have a stack of various PCMCIA cards to go in it. Good times!
Damn it Wendell why is it the first thing that came out of your mouth "This is the first handheld computer ever" is just so factually wrong.. its not even if you count MSDOS palmtops (anyone who's seen Terminator 2 would have seen the Atari Portfolio for example, and that started production in 1989) If you count non-MSDOS handheld computers they go back to like 1981
Great video. I’m one of those die-hard HP200LX users. Used mine daily until about 2004. It was souped-up, double-clocked and 32MB RAM upgrade. I even sent it into Thaddeus computing in the early 2000s to get the keyboard replaced. I still have it, but alas I threw away a bunch of the accessories over the years - things like a double-slot PCMCIA expander, an Ethernet card and a modem card. I even had one of those suction cup acoustic telephone modems for emergency use while traveling. I wrote tons of C programs on this machine, including an utility to interface the phone book with a Rex-3. Great memories, now I gotta go dust it off and see if I can still boot it.
Looking at that Canon computer reminds me that I still have two laptops from '94 '95 that still worked running DOS and Windows '95. I always get a kick from seeing my co-workers reactions when they check them out. Especially because most of them are Software Engineers.
Wendell absolutely nerding over old tech is always worth a watch
Im too busy watching this to open patreon... To ask. Can we see a cheap nvme vs expensive faceoff
I am BMC (P6). I am happy you did not find the embedded backdoor chip installed in the factory at my nation state masters' behest. All your docs are belong to us.
A friend had one of the HP handhelds; I wrote an option calculator for him. The cut down version of Lotus-123 didn't have a Log Normal Distribution function so I had to use a numerical approximation with as few float operations as possible. I miss the days of squeezing performance out of hardware - I have to play with microcontrollers to get the same buzz today.
I had a HP 200lx a few years ago. I have changed the crystal in it, so it became what we call ''DoubleSpeed''. Yes, it is actually an overclock.
I remember this tech.
Yeah, I'm old.
The GPD Pocket 2 or the Mini Industry Laptop are likely better choices than the GPD Win for Wendell. They have a more basic keyboard layout and the Industrial one has serial and other IO features the others don't. The Pocket has a 1200 by 1920 display while the Industry model is only 720p but with way more features.
This is before my time but is hella cool
As modern replacement for the PDAs, what about the Cosmo devices? The Communicator or the Gemini PDA?
Really cool.