Too bad this is false/fabricated information as well. The only 'real' singers here are Brad Howell and John Davis. Missing are my sister Linda Rocco and me, Jodie Rocco. The other two in this video had absolutely 'ZERO' to do with the first album, and the second album, which was never released in the US, was completely finished when they became the 'real' group. Their voices were recorded after the fact and are barely audible on most of the tracks. #shameful
Rob and Fab .... could they actually sing ? Not everyone is great live , and that's fine . What we listen to on the radio or on the album is always a better quality than live performances , so I don't think fans expect everyone to sing live perfectly . But if they actually had a chance to have their voices recorded in the studio just like all the singers do , would they sound any good ??
I have no sympathy for this band they're playing victim but they were in it too they are just as guilty so I'm glad that didn't take off. I really don't see the big deal anyways it's an acting job honestly I prefer to see the two models versus those old nasty looking men.the lady is beautiful
Coz it was a top secret. the producer freakin' frank should give credit also to Charles Shaw (Frank fired the guy because Charles was spilling the cup of tea during Milli Vanilli's success in the industry).
@@MsMysticworld it is not top secret it was society hypocricy that do not want to hear the truth from little people...Charles came on tv already but people just did not care that is why he stop talking about it...
They all look like they're were going to say: Oh please, shut the fuck up, you Farian son of a bitch!! 😬 He said that was not a problem, but looking at their faces we can notice that it was a big problem to the singers theirself. What a beautiful voices they really had 💖
Ese Farian es un Cínico el fue el de la idea del engaño y salio limpia las manos, lo mejor que hubiese hecho hacerse a un lado y que Fab y Rob junto con los verdaderos cantantes formaran el grupo así hubiese continuado la fama y el éxito
Holy shit that Frank dude is an asshole from hell. I'm at a loss for words in anger. I'm so sorry Gina, John, Brad and Ray. I really am. You deserved so much more. After watching several of your stage performances, I'm in awe. Amazing band. Amazing. I'm glad that you didn't let this bullshit stop you from loving what you did so well.
I second this. He scapegoated Rob and Fab and got away with it. What a crook! I've been saying this for years. No empathy at all from Farian. the love of money is the root of all evil
@@SybilKibble Frank paid rob and fab millions. Thanks to him they could live a dream. He even paid for robs rehab when rob was broke. He even offered rob a job as a singer once he would have been sober.
Mr Frank Farian, you made a fool out of 2 handsome and talented young men starting their career, just trying to pay their monthly rent, they were young and desperate, you turned them into victims, you even fooled all the fans. Shame on you! Karma! Cold and cruel world. Rest in peace Rob and good luck to Fab!!
Fab y Rob si sabían cantar pero no tenían el timbre y la experiencia que los cantantes originales, por eso no los dejó cantar desde el principio, pensó que sus voces no serían muy potentes y que no gustarían, pero sí explotó su belleza y habilidad para bailar, cuando subían eran dueños del escenario, se entregaban a su público. Gran parte del éxito de Milli Vanilli fue el encanto de Rob y Fab. Sin ninguna duda!! ❤💗
lo mas chocante es que ellos si podian cantar tal vez unas cuantas clases y quedaban perfectos. farian sabia lo que hacia como boney M sabia que con pistas de audio los controlaria a todos como sus marionetas. de echo el grupo boney M tambien se quejo q farian los estafo. la imagen es todo, sin FAB Y ROB se termino todo, Farian es un estupido,.
Rob y Fab era alemán y francés casi no hablan inglés era imposibles es como yo que me ponga a cantar en alemán cuando no se ni pedo. Pero hay que darles un aplauso sacaron un álbum de Rob y Fab y aprendieron inglés
He has a gun to their heads and you can tell by their expressions. When they interviewed the original members they didn't even mention Frank by name because he's "powerful". This dude could've fixed the entire scandal easily by having Rob and Fab perform with this band. He literally killed two birds with one stone. Also, Frank doesn't even acknowledges "Girl You Know It's True" is a cover.
Exactly! He could have had them up front and centre dancing while the band and singers performed in the background if he wanted Fab and Rob as the main focus. Fab and Rob still could have been the image and face of the band in that way. Just like Prince had his dancers by his side and they became famous from that, Frank could have done the same with Fab and Rob. He killed this whole phenomenon by being sneaky and deceitful, and sadly killed Rob because of it too.
@@natashakcarson I think this would have been a good solution too. But I have to admit, that this 2nd project with all the members would have been not succesful. Because a lot of the fans hated the 2 "fake" singers. So this decision was made to draw the line. Frank Farian was a typical stereotype producer. He made decisions like an investor. And he thought that the time was right for a cool duo that can dance and sing. He was ahead of time. Milli Vanilli had the 90's vibe. The real Milli Vanilli would have been another groovy RnB/Soul/Pop group of the 80s and because of that (surely) less succesful. I would listen to their songs. But that's unfortunately till today the dark side of the business. A lot of really good musicians, singers and entertainer don't get famous because the producer don't belive that they can make a lot of money with them.
@@THE1NF1N1TY Yep! That's the sad truth of it all. What they don't seem to care about is the deeper implications and the negative impact it can have on everyone involved. All they care about is a paycheck and using people as pawns, treating them like a little disposable game piece.
Fairerweise muss man sagen, dass Farian Rob aus dem Gefängnis holte, als er wegen Körperverletzung verhaftet wurde, und ihm die Möglichkeit gab, wieder mit Farian Musik zu machen. Rob konnte seine Drogensucht und seinen Alkoholismus jedoch nie überwinden.
Frank Farian is an absolute disgust and I can say that on his face in person! How shamelessly not only hid the real singers but preserved the idea that they are old and not sellable and destroyed other two talented dancing kids lives!
All of these people participated in this by choice. Where Frank messed up was when he let the secret out instead of announcing a breakup. Or just having Rob and Fab sing on the next album. Anyone of those options would have made more sense if he wasn’t going to refund people for concert tickets.
@@roldanrosario8292 Actually Frank Farian did let Fab and Rob sing on their next album which was Milli Vanilli's way to try to redeem themselves from the controversy. Unfortunately, that album turned out to be a high flop that ended their singing career.
@@timothylee2772 Yes. I remember that. What I meant was that nobody was asking Frank to let the secret out in the first place. This could have all been done under the name Milli Vanilli without the scandal.
@@paisleyprincess7996 Their accents sounded ok on the Rob and Fab album. The last thing on everyone’s mind was the scandal. Mainstream audiences don’t look deep into all those details. I think it would have worked.
I'm surprised that he didn't get sued for fraud. He masterminded the whole thing. he tricked the real singers and Rob and Fab equally. those people in front of him are so afraid, you can tell that they are not allowed to say anything.
That’s because Frank Farian had a lot of power in the international music industry. Milli Vanilli did hurt him for a little bit, but with dance music, you just have to keep up with the trends and keep the hits coming and he did with La Bouche and No Mercy and all was forgiven and forgotten.
Regresen el grammy a Fab!!!!...sí canta y muuuuuy bien y está guapísimo... no como éstos desangelados y aburridos.... por algo solo prestaron la voz jajajaja para mí Milli vanilly son y serán Rob y Fab...
Lo que me enoja más de todo este asunto es que Farian salió como si nada de todo este alboroto, los verdaderos perjudicados fueron Rob y Fab, no se merecían que los trataran así. Realmente ellos merecían una segunda oportunidad para mostrar su talento. En fin... Lo más lamentable de todo esto es la muerte de Rob, pero bueno como dicen por ahí, Farian tiene un lugar reservado en el infierno.
This guy has the gut to say 'music is important' when he recruited Gina Mohammed because of her skin color. She's not even the real singer in the follow-up album although she might have added her voice later. Rocco sisters did all the vocals as they had done in 'girl you know it's ture' Frank Farian must have made all the money he made because he hired black artists separately for the roles he designed for each of the artists (some for visual, some for vocals) instead of giving the whole credits to particualr people, and he doens't seem to have no ethical regrets
Kinda pathetic that he still wasn't being fully truthful about this "Real" Milli Vanilli group. While he did show the main singer and rapper he was basically using Gina and Ray as the two leads similar to Rob and Fab. Anytime you hear a woman's vocals it's not even Gina she's just lip syncing to it...
@@miguelmusicajwThat’s because their role was more as background singers. They were technically never officially part of Milli Vanilli, at least not according to Frank Farian.
@@RocStarr913 she sang on some of the tracks from the 2nd album but mostly she only sang over Linda and Jodie's vocals because all she had to do was to re-record so that Farian would add her vocals to the final cut, but what we hear the most is Linda and Jodie's voices. Gina couldn't match them vocally that's why you barely hear her on the album as her voice is literally at the bottom.
@@miguel77745 Y estos cantan bien, pero con feos rostros y la magia se les acabo pronto, ni con sus voces triunfaron ,nisiquiera les dieron el grammy a las voces reales, porque querian la bella imagen de Rob y Fab, ellos si vendían, y si tienen bellas voces, eso lo dijo el productor para que ellos no cobraran regalías algun día.
@@yayizgarcia7965 de hecho si no pegaron fue por el fraude no por ser feos ,,porque hay muchos grupos de la epoca que no eran bonitos ni nada de eso y fueron mucho mas famosos que fab y rob. Ejemplo club noveau ,timex social club ,y muchos
Brad & John, with a style makeover, could've made a very successful duo. They were a bit long in the tooth to be pop stars, perhaps, but their voices would've carried them through.
@@paisleyprincess7996 I disagree. Because by 1994/1995, musical tastes were shifting again. That's why After 7 fell off: they couldn't keep up with trends or elevate their sound, so they dropped off. If you look at the resurgence of many touring R&B/soul acts of the 80's and 90's, they are doing VERY WELL with touring. People miss that good music, no matter the age of the singers/band.
Black male acts have to be young for some reason white male acts have to be older. I guess some people's hearing changing by how someone looks. The songs wee great whoever sang them. What a damn shame.
@@thegoodoldboys100 I agree with you 100%, but this was the era of MTV, and let's face it: they market the mainstream pop stars to the 12-35 year-old crowd, and still do. Their voices were top-tier, but it would've been hard to market these guys because of their age, unless a major fashion makeover was in order. It's the same reason Black Box swapped out Martha Wash for Katrin Quinol: the image is what sold (sadly), not the real talent of the group. It's shallow.
comooo detesto a frank farian es un manipulador y narcisitas de verdad se aprovecho de los no agraciados por su hermosa voz y a los jovenes de su belleza y ambos grupos perdieron su dignidad por el poco dinero que les dio y el unico que salio librado y la cabeza en alto es ese maldito de franck por tu culpa mi dulce angel de rob no esta aqui
It's common in the music industry, but in Germany it is also known to marketed with American western artists (names) to gain traction in popularity. No one to blame it's all about music business.
That’s all true, but no act that did lip-syncing to other people’s vocals was as big as Milli Vanilli was or even won Grammys. Most of the acts that did that were either big merely in dance clubs or weren’t really on the level of celebrity. Rob & Fab became international household names. Winning the Grammy was the nail in the coffin because it embarrassed the entire music industry.
I think both the real and the fake Nilli Vanilli would be happy if nothing happens , both would be rich and have good lives for the rest for their lives
Thing is this "real" Milli Vanilli would have done good in the music industry because the songs were all good. Would they have hit it as big as the "fake" Milli Vanilli?? Probably not but they still would have done well.
@@freakyfornash @dougconley Those are kind sentiments but I disagree. The visuals were incredibly important for their success and there was a reason Frank paid professional singers instead of Rob & Fab. The European Milli Vanilli album blatantly had a sticker on the front that said visuals were Rob & Fab, and gave credit to the real voices. The American release was actually deceitful and credited Rob & Fab with the voices.
@@robbiecotner3666 Though Fab was able to hold his own when it came to singing for the most part at least. Rob maybe could have been okay, had if they trained him as time went on, even his thick, German accent would have been a bit tough to work around though. That or they could have simply used both groups, which did happen with the Real Milli Vanilli, when they showed who the main singers were, but needed new eye candy to replace what was lost when Rob & Fab were no longer part of the group as well.
The Moment Of Truth album, as it was released, just wasn’t as good. It just wasn’t the same act, especially with all the guest rappers he put on songs. It was proof that Rob & Fab were a big part of what made Milli Vanilli successful. Plus, musical tastes were already changing by 1991 anyway. A lot of Milli Vanilli’s success came from being at the right place at the right time.
Tenian la voz! Pero no el carisma! Ni el stylo! Ni la personalidad! Me pregubto donde esta este productor hoy en dia?🤔 debio ser criticado hasta morir.. y ya! Es para q hagan una pelicula sobre ellos ! Hay buen material!
Watch this video (with subtitles on if you don't know german language) ua-cam.com/video/2w203cGLoKc/v-deo.html and after this use google translate to read this: www.focus.de/panorama/boulevard/boney-m-schwere-vorwuerfe-gegen-frank-farian_aid_586666.html Liz from Boney M. said that he was racist tho.
I know frank the producer did something wrong but without his idea we would have never experienced those great song is mess up ..........the music industry.i feel bad for the original group ...
Rob e Fab deram vida ao Milli Vanilli,muito bons mesmo ,mais também gostei dessa outra formação, mais fab e Rob são meus preferidos ,agora essa Gina é muito linda mesmo.
@@youtubecommenter1000 Why did it take 4-5 producers /songwriter to create a song like "Girl you know its true"?? Is it such complicated song?? American music critique magazine wasnt really impressed either and called it " another quasi-rap that goes nowhere"
and they say he's the real voice behind the Bonney-M, with his accent back in 90's??? Bullshit. He never sung any line on Bonney-M music. Ask this son of devil to show you where's the real singer behind Bobbi Farrell voice not him, sorry.
what are you talking about, it is clearly Frank's voice and you can notice lol. He has been singing for decades way before Boney M. emerged, he manages to sing in a deeper tone on Boney M. tracks. He, Liz and Marcia were the main voices.
Fabrice Morvan = Phoenix Fabrice Morvan = phoenix vive la France ! Robert Pilatus i don't forget you on ne t'oubliera pas ! Frank Farian = O Frank Farian = 0
Lo que pasa es que frack ,estaba diciendo puras mentiras, y ellos nobpodian creer lo que decia ,ni los dejo habla,.me da gusto que no hayan triunfado ya se sentían que se hiban a ganar un Grammy,😂😂😂, porque ellos sabían la verdad y se quedaron callados ,estos tipos de video lastimaron su corazón y mente de mi Rob ,nadie les creyó en ese entonces..
@@yayizgarcia7965 eu pus para traduzir mas não entendi muito o que o Frank disse, eu vi que ele disse que era justo fazer um disco com as verdadeiras vozes
@@csa196 Si ,se refería, lo dijo para que el publico aceptará a los feos , y decir que rob y fab eran los del fraude, es como ,sarcasmo ,como burlándose de que mi amado Rob y Fab ,no merecían hacer ese disco porque no cantaban ,bien a lo cual ya sabemos que era mentira,, Pero la realidad es que ese disco ya estaba listo para lanzarse a nivel mundial, a lo cual Mi rob y fab ya no quisieron ,porque frank estaba ganando millones y a ellos hasta les debia meses sin pagar ,puras mentiras decía frank,, el empezó una campaña de persecución contra rob por los medios de comunicación.😔😔😔
@@yayizgarcia7965 no fim esses duraram menos que Fab e Rob. É incrível como esse Frank saiu ileso. O pessoal comenta que esses cantores têm cara de que estão num velório 😆. Verdade não têm estilo nem carisma.
Had Frank been smart enough he would have created a band with the 2 original male singers here and add Fab and Rob as dancers background singers in the middle because they actually could sing and rap especially Fab. It could have been an Earth wind and fire type of group everyone shining and getting their due on stage
That’s what happens when you sign contracts with people that may not always be the most fair. Frank Farian was a pretty powerful guy in the European music industry.
Clearly not. The producer had all the power. When you sign a contract with a producer, the balance of power on the terms can sometimes be very lop-sided.
But Farian’s attempt to continue with The Real Milli Vanilli only shows how much Rob & Fab was a big part of why Milli was successful in the first place.
Clearly how dumb I was around 15 yrs old? When I bought the album the new milli vanilli, that time I was looking at the picture why so different with rob and fab 😂😂😂
because rob & fab threatened to blackmailed him by going public for over 100k usd among other demands since frank wouldn't let them actually sing in any of the tracks in album 2, the 2 boys bit the hands that fed them basically
Too bad this is false/fabricated information as well. The only 'real' singers here are Brad Howell and John Davis. Missing are my sister Linda Rocco and me, Jodie Rocco. The other two in this video had absolutely 'ZERO' to do with the first album, and the second album, which was never released in the US, was completely finished when they became the 'real' group. Their voices were recorded after the fact and are barely audible on most of the tracks. #shameful
Wait so you're the real singer ?
@@jetplanes3961 lol, yes she is actually. You can look her up. BTW, I wish Jodie all the best!
Rob and Fab .... could they actually sing ?
Not everyone is great live , and that's fine . What we listen to on the radio or on the album is always a better quality than live performances , so I don't think fans expect everyone to sing live perfectly .
But if they actually had a chance to have their voices recorded in the studio just like all the singers do , would they sound any good ??
@@o00DP00o Thank you!
@@jetplanes3961 Yes! One of the 'real' singers!
Expressions on the singer's faces say it all.
Cloca outros piores sai fora
Gary Lee Yeah and Frank is the only one talking! The singers don't look happy at all.
Yeah. But they still got a check tho
I have no sympathy for this band they're playing victim but they were in it too they are just as guilty so I'm glad that didn't take off. I really don't see the big deal anyways it's an acting job honestly I prefer to see the two models versus those old nasty looking men.the lady is beautiful
@@maxinemorris6927 so true, not feeling this band at all.
1:20 Her face is like "what the fuck is he saying", and then she realizes the camera is focusing on her, and she changes her face imediately lol
The singers look really really uncomfortable and he is the only one talking!
true, they look so bored lol
Coz it was a top secret. the producer freakin' frank should give credit also to Charles Shaw (Frank fired the guy because Charles was spilling the cup of tea during Milli Vanilli's success in the industry).
@@MsMysticworld it is not top secret it was society hypocricy that do not want to hear the truth from little people...Charles came on tv already but people just did not care that is why he stop talking about it...
...that s very clear....maybe they have felt embarassed a lot thier birth and so....
I agree they look very uncomfortable
They all look like they're were going to say: Oh please, shut the fuck up, you Farian son of a bitch!! 😬
He said that was not a problem, but looking at their faces we can notice that it was a big problem to the singers theirself.
What a beautiful voices they really had 💖
Theirself? What a beautiful voices? It sounds like you have a problem with English.
Gina Mohammad is a beautiful woman. I still like their songs. It's 20 × better than what we're hearing these days now. RIP John Davis!
that's why she was there, cause she wasn't an original singer either.
Can we make a movie about this
shelly yastagirl GREAT IDEA
www.imdb.com/title/tt6693994/
Ones been in the works for a decade
They need to!!!!!
Fab Morvan has been trying to make a movie happen for at least 25 years now.
Ese Farian es un Cínico el fue el de la idea del engaño y salio limpia las manos, lo mejor que hubiese hecho hacerse a un lado y que Fab y Rob junto con los verdaderos cantantes formaran el grupo así hubiese continuado la fama y el éxito
1:47 - the Brad Howell sigh... 😕😕😕speaks volumes about what he really felt about what is said.
Holy shit that Frank dude is an asshole from hell. I'm at a loss for words in anger. I'm so sorry Gina, John, Brad and Ray. I really am. You deserved so much more. After watching several of your stage performances, I'm in awe. Amazing band. Amazing. I'm glad that you didn't let this bullshit stop you from loving what you did so well.
How in his right mind can Frank Farian live knowing what was primarily responsible for this disaster?!
I second this. He scapegoated Rob and Fab and got away with it. What a crook! I've been saying this for years. No empathy at all from Farian. the love of money is the root of all evil
@@SybilKibble Frank paid rob and fab millions. Thanks to him they could live a dream. He even paid for robs rehab when rob was broke. He even offered rob a job as a singer once he would have been sober.
Gina and Ray didn't even sing those songs. Also the band and singers knew that they wouldn't be known and they didn't want to be known either.
@@violentdavillain3430 They did both sing on the album. They also both sang on another group Farian put together called Try N B soon after.
And by the way, they done continues doing lip sync, because the real female singer was Linda Rocco, and the girl on video didn't sing.
Frank Farian was the greatest producer! Love him so much! Thanks for Milli Vanilli!
Mr Frank Farian, you made a fool out of 2 handsome and talented young men starting their career, just trying to pay their monthly rent, they were young and desperate, you turned them into victims, you even fooled all the fans. Shame on you! Karma! Cold and cruel world. Rest in peace Rob and good luck to Fab!!
Gtfoh goofy ass. Them 2 lads were having the time of their lives. They aren’t victims
@@N17-o2r el jodió sus vidas no las hizo para nada buena Rob ya no está aquí porque Frank reveló el fraude
@@N17-o2r These two lads new beforehand when they signed the contract.
Fab y Rob si sabían cantar pero no tenían el timbre y la experiencia que los cantantes originales, por eso no los dejó cantar desde el principio, pensó que sus voces no serían muy potentes y que no gustarían, pero sí explotó su belleza y habilidad para bailar, cuando subían eran dueños del escenario, se entregaban a su público. Gran parte del éxito de Milli Vanilli fue el encanto de Rob y Fab. Sin ninguna duda!! ❤💗
lo mas chocante es que ellos si podian cantar tal vez unas cuantas clases y quedaban perfectos. farian sabia lo que hacia como boney M sabia que con pistas de audio los controlaria a todos como sus marionetas. de echo el grupo boney M tambien se quejo q farian los estafo.
la imagen es todo, sin FAB Y ROB se termino todo, Farian es un estupido,.
Rob y Fab era alemán y francés casi no hablan inglés era imposibles es como yo que me ponga a cantar en alemán cuando no se ni pedo. Pero hay que darles un aplauso sacaron un álbum de Rob y Fab y aprendieron inglés
Judging by the looks on the singers faces, Farian was the only one who got rich.
There is four singers and they all have a gun to their backs.
r.i.p John Davis 🕊️
He has a gun to their heads and you can tell by their expressions. When they interviewed the original members they didn't even mention Frank by name because he's "powerful". This dude could've fixed the entire scandal easily by having Rob and Fab perform with this band. He literally killed two birds with one stone. Also, Frank doesn't even acknowledges "Girl You Know It's True" is a cover.
That's really what they should have done anyway is had these guys play the music and sing 🤷♂️ it didn't have to be that way.
Exactly! He could have had them up front and centre dancing while the band and singers performed in the background if he wanted Fab and Rob as the main focus. Fab and Rob still could have been the image and face of the band in that way. Just like Prince had his dancers by his side and they became famous from that, Frank could have done the same with Fab and Rob. He killed this whole phenomenon by being sneaky and deceitful, and sadly killed Rob because of it too.
@@natashakcarson I think this would have been a good solution too. But I have to admit, that this 2nd project with all the members would have been not succesful. Because a lot of the fans hated the 2 "fake" singers. So this decision was made to draw the line.
Frank Farian was a typical stereotype producer. He made decisions like an investor. And he thought that the time was right for a cool duo that can dance and sing. He was ahead of time. Milli Vanilli had the 90's vibe. The real Milli Vanilli would have been another groovy RnB/Soul/Pop group of the 80s and because of that (surely) less succesful. I would listen to their songs. But that's unfortunately till today the dark side of the business. A lot of really good musicians, singers and entertainer don't get famous because the producer don't belive that they can make a lot of money with them.
@@THE1NF1N1TY Yep! That's the sad truth of it all. What they don't seem to care about is the deeper implications and the negative impact it can have on everyone involved. All they care about is a paycheck and using people as pawns, treating them like a little disposable game piece.
Brad Howell the best Voice Milli Vanilli!!
John Davis was great too, and will often tour with Fab, who make a fine duo together as well.
@@freakyfornash 👌
Agree!
Lastima que no hay un solo álbum por Brad tiene una voz muy peculiar
he was very proud of fooling everyone and destroying rob and fab, you can see it on the singers face
I suspect Farian of being a narcissist !
rob and fab destroyed themselves.
@@rizwanrafeek3811 facts
@@rizwanrafeek3811 Rob and Fab new beforehand when they signed the contract.
@@rizwanrafeek3811 Would you walk away from millions of you were eking out a living? Probably not
The guys are the front are thinking ‘this guy really has no shame’
Frank Farian, warum hast du dich entschieden, rob pilatus zu besiegen, wir wollen ihn lebend, aber natürlich stand er dir für ingrid im Weg
Fairerweise muss man sagen, dass Farian Rob aus dem Gefängnis holte, als er wegen Körperverletzung verhaftet wurde, und ihm die Möglichkeit gab, wieder mit Farian Musik zu machen. Rob konnte seine Drogensucht und seinen Alkoholismus jedoch nie überwinden.
Frank Farian is an absolute disgust and I can say that on his face in person! How shamelessly not only hid the real singers but preserved the idea that they are old and not sellable and destroyed other two talented dancing kids lives!
All of these people participated in this by choice. Where Frank messed up was when he let the secret out instead of announcing a breakup. Or just having Rob and Fab sing on the next album. Anyone of those options would have made more sense if he wasn’t going to refund people for concert tickets.
@@roldanrosario8292 Actually Frank Farian did let Fab and Rob sing on their next album which was Milli Vanilli's way to try to redeem themselves from the controversy. Unfortunately, that album turned out to be a high flop that ended their singing career.
@@timothylee2772 Yes. I remember that. What I meant was that nobody was asking Frank to let the secret out in the first place. This could have all been done under the name Milli Vanilli without the scandal.
@@roldanrosario8292 but they didn’t master the language enough to sing well. They tried, but they couldn’t do it well
@@paisleyprincess7996 Their accents sounded ok on the Rob and Fab album. The last thing on everyone’s mind was the scandal. Mainstream audiences don’t look deep into all those details. I think it would have worked.
You can tell English is not the mans first language
He knows what he means but didnt know if there's a word for it or how to put in a sentence
I'm surprised that he didn't get sued for fraud. He masterminded the whole thing. he tricked the real singers and Rob and Fab equally. those people in front of him are so afraid, you can tell that they are not allowed to say anything.
That’s because Frank Farian had a lot of power in the international music industry. Milli Vanilli did hurt him for a little bit, but with dance music, you just have to keep up with the trends and keep the hits coming and he did with La Bouche and No Mercy and all was forgiven and forgotten.
Regresen el grammy a Fab!!!!...sí canta y muuuuuy bien y está guapísimo... no como éstos desangelados y aburridos.... por algo solo prestaron la voz jajajaja para mí Milli vanilly son y serán Rob y Fab...
Y tampoco cantaban en vivo 😐 al menos no he encontrado una presentación
Frank Farian has died aged 82. He was a ruthless producer ruined the lives of Boney M and Milli Vanilli. Brilliant music even though it's bogus.
Gina Is my aunt!!!
Really?! Can you Please tell her that she's the most beautiful black woman I've ever seen in my entire life!
Dope af
Shes so beautyfull
The sad part..Fab and Rob had to return the Grammy.
They were going to do it anyway before the Recording Academy forced them to do it.
While he is steady talking. All of those singers look pissed. 😱
RIP Rob Pilatus and his voice John Davis
John Davis was Fab’s voice. Brad Howell was Rob’s voice and is still alive at this point, though elderly now.
Lo que me enoja más de todo este asunto es que Farian salió como si nada de todo este alboroto, los verdaderos perjudicados fueron Rob y Fab, no se merecían que los trataran así. Realmente ellos merecían una segunda oportunidad para mostrar su talento. En fin... Lo más lamentable de todo esto es la muerte de Rob, pero bueno como dicen por ahí, Farian tiene un lugar reservado en el infierno.
Sí, Farian tuvo la culpa de todo.
Se aprovecharon de todos y nadie pudo levantar sus carreras solo el señor manipulador y narcisista de Frank
*¡Exacto!* 😡
Fan and Rob both are the best milli vanilli.
👏👏👏👏👏
This guy has the gut to say 'music is important' when he recruited Gina Mohammed because of her skin color. She's not even the real singer in the follow-up album although she might have added her voice later. Rocco sisters did all the vocals as they had done in 'girl you know it's ture' Frank Farian must have made all the money he made because he hired black artists separately for the roles he designed for each of the artists (some for visual, some for vocals) instead of giving the whole credits to particualr people, and he doens't seem to have no ethical regrets
Kinda pathetic that he still wasn't being fully truthful about this "Real" Milli Vanilli group. While he did show the main singer and rapper he was basically using Gina and Ray as the two leads similar to Rob and Fab. Anytime you hear a woman's vocals it's not even Gina she's just lip syncing to it...
Exactly. All the female vocals were provided by Linda Rocco and Jodie Rocco, it's just a shme that they were left out of the picture.
Mohammed sang on some of the songs. She was also in another Frank Farian group soon after called Try N B and she sang on that as well.
@@miguelmusicajwThat’s because their role was more as background singers. They were technically never officially part of Milli Vanilli, at least not according to Frank Farian.
@@RocStarr913 she sang on some of the tracks from the 2nd album but mostly she only sang over Linda and Jodie's vocals because all she had to do was to re-record so that Farian would add her vocals to the final cut, but what we hear the most is Linda and Jodie's voices. Gina couldn't match them vocally that's why you barely hear her on the album as her voice is literally at the bottom.
Ese grupo parecieran que estan en un VELORIO. Los milli vanilli :Rob Y Fab, jamas se los vio tan serios. Aquellos proyectaban magia!😘😍
FARY MERCADO CORTEZ si pero eran una farsa...
Si los hubieras oído cantar con sus voces créeme tu mentada magia se hubiera acabado
Encantadores inolvidables
@@miguel77745 Y estos cantan bien, pero con feos rostros y la magia se les acabo pronto, ni con sus voces triunfaron ,nisiquiera les dieron el grammy a las voces reales, porque querian la bella imagen de Rob y Fab, ellos si vendían, y si tienen bellas voces, eso lo dijo el productor para que ellos no cobraran regalías algun día.
@@yayizgarcia7965 de hecho si no pegaron fue por el fraude no por ser feos ,,porque hay muchos grupos de la epoca que no eran bonitos ni nada de eso y fueron mucho mas famosos que fab y rob. Ejemplo club noveau ,timex social club ,y muchos
Rob et Fab sont les vrais Milli Vanille 👏👏👏👏👏👏😍😍😍😍😍😍🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
Gina is beautiful though!
Yes. I always stare at her in the videos !
I think you should visit oculist perhaps. like soon...
The REAL reason why I'm here!
Brad & John, with a style makeover, could've made a very successful duo. They were a bit long in the tooth to be pop stars, perhaps, but their voices would've carried them through.
No…Even older groups like After 7 had a hard time, and they had Babyface
@@paisleyprincess7996 I disagree. Because by 1994/1995, musical tastes were shifting again. That's why After 7 fell off: they couldn't keep up with trends or elevate their sound, so they dropped off. If you look at the resurgence of many touring R&B/soul acts of the 80's and 90's, they are doing VERY WELL with touring. People miss that good music, no matter the age of the singers/band.
They look like they’d be in a mid 80s funk band.
Black male acts have to be young for some reason white male acts have to be older. I guess some people's hearing changing by how someone looks. The songs wee great whoever sang them. What a damn shame.
@@thegoodoldboys100 I agree with you 100%, but this was the era of MTV, and let's face it: they market the mainstream pop stars to the 12-35 year-old crowd, and still do.
Their voices were top-tier, but it would've been hard to market these guys because of their age, unless a major fashion makeover was in order.
It's the same reason Black Box swapped out Martha Wash for Katrin Quinol: the image is what sold (sadly), not the real talent of the group. It's shallow.
comooo detesto a frank farian es un manipulador y narcisitas de verdad se aprovecho de los no agraciados por su hermosa voz y a los jovenes de su belleza y ambos grupos perdieron su dignidad por el poco dinero que les dio y el unico que salio librado y la cabeza en alto es ese maldito de franck por tu culpa mi dulce angel de rob no esta aqui
Look at their faces, man.
Those artists look disappointed.
...and that snicker at 1:58
Frank Farian is Donald Trump's long lost relative...SERIOUSLY.
LMAOOOO!!!!!!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
They both happen to be of German descent.
Ayyy qué listo farian ... Te debería dar vergüenza lo que hiciste y lo que provocaste... Sinico
This woman black is beautiful 1:27 i loved
That's Gina Mohammed
G
It's hilarious to me how I only see these sort of black is beautiful comments about women who clearly have some sort of mixed bloodline. LMBAO!
@@blackalien6873 Africa is full of mixed bloodline for thousands of years. East Africans looks different than West, North, etc.
@@takerdust This woman is of mixed black/white ancestry.
Wow ! You can cut the tension with the knife . Their body language says it all
No Remorse I mean None
Is not this Gina Mohammed, what belonged to the Loft music band, what did she sing, for example, "Mallorca"?
According to Discogs, yes.
How he can speak english here but he didn't can speak english on his interviews??
It's common in the music industry, but in Germany it is also known to marketed with American western artists (names) to gain traction in popularity. No one to blame it's all about music business.
That’s all true, but no act that did lip-syncing to other people’s vocals was as big as Milli Vanilli was or even won Grammys. Most of the acts that did that were either big merely in dance clubs or weren’t really on the level of celebrity. Rob & Fab became international household names. Winning the Grammy was the nail in the coffin because it embarrassed the entire music industry.
on the other hand, without Frank Farian, nobody would know the singers anyway
The Producer make the Big Money the are Puppets
This talented group were insulted by that jerk .
Debieron meter a la carcel a ese Farian, pero ha de haber soltado muy buen billete
I think both the real and the fake Nilli Vanilli would be happy if nothing happens , both would be rich and have good lives for the rest for their lives
Thing is this "real" Milli Vanilli would have done good in the music industry because the songs were all good. Would they have hit it as big as the "fake" Milli Vanilli?? Probably not but they still would have done well.
You also wonder how Rob & Fab would've done, had if they had been allowed to sing all along too? I'm sure they would have been just fine as well.
@@freakyfornash @dougconley Those are kind sentiments but I disagree. The visuals were incredibly important for their success and there was a reason Frank paid professional singers instead of Rob & Fab.
The European Milli Vanilli album blatantly had a sticker on the front that said visuals were Rob & Fab, and gave credit to the real voices. The American release was actually deceitful and credited Rob & Fab with the voices.
@@robbiecotner3666 Though Fab was able to hold his own when it came to singing for the most part at least. Rob maybe could have been okay, had if they trained him as time went on, even his thick, German accent would have been a bit tough to work around though. That or they could have simply used both groups, which did happen with the Real Milli Vanilli, when they showed who the main singers were, but needed new eye candy to replace what was lost when Rob & Fab were no longer part of the group as well.
The Moment Of Truth album, as it was released, just wasn’t as good. It just wasn’t the same act, especially with all the guest rappers he put on songs. It was proof that Rob & Fab were a big part of what made Milli Vanilli successful. Plus, musical tastes were already changing by 1991 anyway. A lot of Milli Vanilli’s success came from being at the right place at the right time.
not in this genre. every band would make energetic dance videos clips back than. without that you had do be calm genre like Tracy Chapman
People are just hooked onto looks, not on the quality of the songs.
Lifetime make a movie about milli vanilli
Can we say unsung tv one
There is already a movie made, shot in English by Germans, called Girl You Know It’s True.
This greedy man was guilty of the ruin of everybody.
Frank said something along the lines of Not a problem with this. Uh, Rob died due to all of the stress.
This was back in 1990, years before Rob died.
Tenian la voz! Pero no el carisma! Ni el stylo! Ni la personalidad! Me pregubto donde esta este productor hoy en dia?🤔 debio ser criticado hasta morir.. y ya! Es para q hagan una pelicula sobre ellos ! Hay buen material!
Dude was master manipulator
Watch this video (with subtitles on if you don't know german language) ua-cam.com/video/2w203cGLoKc/v-deo.html and after this use google translate to read this: www.focus.de/panorama/boulevard/boney-m-schwere-vorwuerfe-gegen-frank-farian_aid_586666.html Liz from Boney M. said that he was racist tho.
I know frank the producer did something wrong but without his idea we would have never experienced those great song is mess up ..........the music industry.i feel bad for the original group ...
Excelentes artistas. El productor se burló de sus talentos!
Rob e Fab deram vida ao Milli Vanilli,muito bons mesmo ,mais também gostei dessa outra formação, mais fab e Rob são meus preferidos ,agora essa Gina é muito linda mesmo.
At 2:28 his reaction says everything.
"I think it's fair that we show everybody.. ähm.. WER (who in German, but where in English) is the real singer." 🤣🤦🏻♂️🤣
he stole girl you know its true... from umarx
oh Breeze b. Numark*
It's called a cover, not stealing
@@sgillman16 No he stole it and copied the beat.
@@youtubecommenter1000 Why did it take 4-5 producers /songwriter to create a song like "Girl you know its true"?? Is it such complicated song?? American music critique magazine wasnt really impressed either and called it " another quasi-rap that goes nowhere"
Numarx
and they say he's the real voice behind the Bonney-M, with his accent back in 90's???
Bullshit. He never sung any line on Bonney-M music. Ask this son of devil to show you where's the real singer behind Bobbi Farrell voice not him, sorry.
I agree. This is not the voice. Another unknown person who was used and thrown away.
@@blackalien6873 Yes, and also thinking than Bobbi Farrell did really sung but on Frank's music and lyrics
Of course it is Frank Farian's voice you hear on Boney M.'s recordings.
what are you talking about, it is clearly Frank's voice and you can notice lol. He has been singing for decades way before Boney M. emerged, he manages to sing in a deeper tone on Boney M. tracks. He, Liz and Marcia were the main voices.
Stolen?
Fabrice Morvan = Phoenix Fabrice Morvan = phoenix vive la France ! Robert Pilatus i don't forget you on ne t'oubliera pas ! Frank Farian = O Frank Farian = 0
Well the rest was history they all made millions
Pelas caras acho que o Frank deu calote neles igual deu no Fab e Rob 😄
Lo que pasa es que frack ,estaba diciendo puras mentiras, y ellos nobpodian creer lo que decia ,ni los dejo habla,.me da gusto que no hayan triunfado ya se sentían que se hiban a ganar un Grammy,😂😂😂, porque ellos sabían la verdad y se quedaron callados ,estos tipos de video lastimaron su corazón y mente de mi Rob ,nadie les creyó en ese entonces..
@@yayizgarcia7965 eu pus para traduzir mas não entendi muito o que o Frank disse, eu vi que ele disse que era justo fazer um disco com as verdadeiras vozes
@@csa196 Si ,se refería, lo dijo para que el publico aceptará a los feos , y decir que rob y fab eran los del fraude, es como ,sarcasmo ,como burlándose de que mi amado Rob y Fab ,no merecían hacer ese disco porque no cantaban ,bien a lo cual ya sabemos que era mentira,, Pero la realidad es que ese disco ya estaba listo para lanzarse a nivel mundial, a lo cual Mi rob y fab ya no quisieron ,porque frank estaba ganando millones y a ellos hasta les debia meses sin pagar ,puras mentiras decía frank,, el empezó una campaña de persecución contra rob por los medios de comunicación.😔😔😔
@@yayizgarcia7965 no fim esses duraram menos que Fab e Rob. É incrível como esse Frank saiu ileso. O pessoal comenta que esses cantores têm cara de que estão num velório 😆. Verdade não têm estilo nem carisma.
Wyglądało to bardzo dobrze.Dwóch gości "dobrze wygląda i tańczy a na dodatek dobrze śpiewa". Okazało to się " zbyt piękne żeby było prawdziwe"...
Ale nadal wydarzenie na skale świata i nie powtarzalne
Wow this bloke has no shame at all for what he did shame on him.
Had Frank been smart enough he would have created a band with the 2 original male singers here and add Fab and Rob as dancers background singers in the middle because they actually could sing and rap especially Fab. It could have been an Earth wind and fire type of group everyone shining and getting their due on stage
Farian sitting above them like a slave master and the real milli vanilli sitting yepping him along was wild
That’s what happens when you sign contracts with people that may not always be the most fair. Frank Farian was a pretty powerful guy in the European music industry.
Qué mal todo esto que sucedió, que aprovechado el señor
MUSIC WAS WOTH IT
Why isn’t freak farina in jail forever
Those aren't even the back up singers. Frank just brought them on because he didn't want people to see it was two white women who were twins.
Are the folks in front not allowed to speak?
Clearly not. The producer had all the power. When you sign a contract with a producer, the balance of power on the terms can sometimes be very lop-sided.
THIS MAN HAS PLAYED WITH CARRERS AND DESTROYED MANY PERSONS AND MANY CHILDHOODS
Não adiantou nada fazer o quê fizeram com Rob e com FAB ,eles serão eternamente os Mili vanili
They are not bad looking.
Summer summer by Loft !
No shame no shame,not a big deal. All this is great. The Irak have à weapons of mass destruction too.
Can we say unsung tv one
0:30 But he didn't create the music at all - he stole it.
Snake 🐍🐍🐍
real milli vanilli suck
Well obviously not at singing they don't though! ;)
But Farian’s attempt to continue with The Real Milli Vanilli only shows how much Rob & Fab was a big part of why Milli was successful in the first place.
I see John
Estafador
Clearly how dumb I was around 15 yrs old? When I bought the album the new milli vanilli, that time I was looking at the picture why so different with rob and fab 😂😂😂
Frank you cruel and damon
Não tinha capacidade nenhuma como artistas e dançarinos, muito fraco
schaem dich fabian
I still wonder why frank exposed the group. He started the whole secret. I'm guessing someone was threatening something.
because rob & fab threatened to blackmailed him by going public for over 100k usd among other demands since frank wouldn't let them actually sing in any of the tracks in album 2, the 2 boys bit the hands that fed them basically
Put on the dreadlocks and leggings and start dancing, you guys already have the voice, the fake don't, like comparing Apples and oranges 😘😘😘😘😘😘
La voz no sirve o dime porque desaparecieron todos ?
she's hot.
Who, Frank or Gina?
That's basically why he hired her. For her looks. Those aren't even Gina's vocals you hear in this "new" Milli Vanilli 🤣
She has more mustache then me wtf
Most evil