USA firefighters please note: Tender arrived at 01:34, High pressure hose deployed with water on fire at 01:53 with none of this messing about getting dry hoses out in straight lines. Well done UK Firefighters.
For those of use who own classic vehicles, that is one of our worst fears. The Fire Dept did a great job of acting quickly, and being careful not to cause any additional damage to the car
Suggests to me that it was sold after this. As it was not declared a total write off to the DVLA, they would have to either tax it or SORN it. As it was probably not insured by the new owner, they would have had to SORN it. I wonder if it will rise again, Phoenix-like, from the flames?
@@benconway9010 but it still has to be either SORN or "taxed" on record, despite the fact that there is no actual money to be paid. They can fine you if you don't do one or the other. Don't renew your "free" tax annually and it's on record as untaxed...
@ huh! I didn’t know you still had to get a tax???! I just thought they were completely exempt from having a tax and didn’t have to do anything???!!! Oh! That’s news to me thanks?!?!
I've been using the Ethanol fuel in my Mk2 and 420 here in the states for years--no problems whatsoever. Not saying it couldn't happen though, just my tuppence worth :)
@@s.achaplin2848 There is an outcry among vintage car collectors in the UK over the government introduced 10% ethanol mix in regular unleaded (E10) petrol.
@@AndrewWLThomson Motorcycle owners too, one of the most important things is to make sure your vehicle is fitted with ethanol compatible fuel lines, I also add on each fill the latest incarnation of Castrol Valvemaster which contains a stabillizer to help prevent corrosion damage and also contains an octane booster. There are videos on here showing you how to remove ethanol from the fuel you just bought using water and the separation method, afterwards you need to add octane booster. I really feel sorry for the owner of this Jag.
@@HuskyGamersUNITE. 100% agree. And the owner must also know how to use that fire extinguisher most effectively- delay and the advantage is lost. Every second counts.
@@HuskyGamersUNITE The liquid and white foam around the front of the car at the start of the video might indicate that a fire extinguisher has already been used... but not enough to stop the fire.
Yep, dealt with safely and thoroughly. They also have the means to deal with the liquid nasties that leak from burning vehicles before they pollute the environment.
Having water onboard the appliance with a pump and long hose is a British tactic that goes back to fighting the fires in London during Blitz when bombs had destroyed the water mains.
@@vinylseatmost American engines carry between 500-1000 gallons of water. FYI. Ladder trucks may or may not carry water depending on local jurisdiction.
This can happen on classic Jags if rust debris are pulled up from the petrol tank and get stuck in the needle valves at the top of the float chambers of the SU carbs, causing them to flood and to overspill into the engine bay. Jaguar engine bays are extremely hot and petrol will ignite very easily if it is allowed to leakout. The overflow pipes on top of the float chambers need to have overflow hoses fitted, so that any overspill is directed away from the engine and down to the ground, where the petrol is less likely to ignite. These overflow hoses are often missing from SU carbs, as overflow used to be such a rare event. However, with the introduction of ethanol in fuel, it causes any steel in the fuel system to corrode and flakes of rust to fall away and get into the carbs. Also, solder used to make the brass floats in the float chambers as well the brass itself is affected by the acetic acid, that ethanol oxidises to, will pull the zinc out of the brass and turn it into white zinc oxide. This will cause any brass parts to lose their integrity and leak. So, brass floats will need to be changed more frequently and needle valve seats will also need to be replaced if they show evidence of white corrosion. Classic car owners need to: - replace old steel fuel tanks with new galvanised ones. - replace all rubber fuel hoses with ethanol resistant ones, as the old rubber will crack from ethanol exposure. - replace all steel fuel lines from the fuel pump to the carbs with copper or cupro-nickel pipes. - fit fuel filters between the tank and the fuel pump, and before the carbs. - fit overflow hoses to the tops of the SU carb float chambers, long enough to exit fuel close to the ground and not in the engine bay. - keep a small fire extinguisher in the car - they're cheap and will allow the fire to be subdued quicker once the bonnet is cracked open. Insurance policies on classic cars often exclude cover for fuel fires, because they are so common and yet avoidable.
I actually had a serious fuel leak on a nearly new SU carburettor, where the fuel delivery pipe from the float chamber is crimped into the jet. Of course it dripped down perilously close to the exhaust manifold! I have never seen this on an SU before, and I glued it together with araldite until the new jet arrived. Note that newer fuel pump overhaul kits have ethanol compatible diaphragms in them.
@@AndrewWLThomson Most of them don't so they have to wait for a water tender plus most are poorly trained volunteers. USA is woefully backwards in fire fighting.
Does anyone know if this was restored? Shame if it wasn't, it was valued at 12-15k at an auction in 2021, but was withdrawn. It also shows MOT expired 2020. Would love to know - beautiful Jag!!
I've always been an advocate of the hard realed trash line. They're very underrated. You can get water on the fire in under 20 seconds of arrival. I don't see many US engines with hose reals anymore.
Good job. No dicking around. Stand back get water on the fire. While they get gear on. No nuckel head with a bar prying the hood open. Breaking out the glass. Well done.
You’d have thought they’d check the interior for people as soon as they arrived? Surely even if someone told you no one was in it they should still check.
It's got a 2.4 dashboard Says cc 3.8 on vehicle inquiry But that doesn't mean original it was a 3.8 Date of registration 1990 So import I dought someone fitted a 2.4 dashboard It probably is a 2.4 and fitted a 3.8 engine
I suspect you are Correct. I do know it was listed in a car auction on the island and then delisted after the fire. Auction listing stated it was initially owned by a former racing driver in the south of France - so definitely imported into the uk and registered here.
That one was restored to a Coombs spec car , note the louvres on the bonnet and trimmed rear wheel arches , that was a carb fire , common with older jags , the car is in good condition and fully restorable , anyone who drives a Coombs spec Mk2 will have the correct insurance and undoubtably be able to go back to the restorer !
Well done fire crew, that poor damned car, what a heart breaking shame but I am sure restorable, fabulous classic but how and what caused this conflagration!
I didn't followup with the driver or the fire dept. But from what I was able to see it appeared that it was a fuel line fire - old cars have old rubber fuel lines that perish over time. Luckily the driver turned off the ignition as soon as he did which stopped the fuel pump - and stopped the fire spreading. He also unlatched the hood and used a fire extinguisher on it initially before the fire dept arrived. Always carry a good fire extinguisher in the car and get all fuel lines checked and replaced if its an older car.
It’s usually fuel dripping or spraying on to a hot exhaust. Just make fuel connections your priority and always get your car keeper to check under the bonnet with the engine running before commencing any journeys.
With the wiring of the automatic choke next to the carbs pipes, this is bound to happen on any mk2. And I’m not talking of the coil squeezed between the radiator and the cylinder head…
Well the interior looks untouched. Certainly a job that can be done to repair the engine compartment. My guess is the battery caught fire, so replace all electrics and make sure all is good on the engine. Stuff like alternator or dynamo will be gone. Isn't this a 3.4, though?
20 seconds to get water flowing! That sure as heck wasn't in the USA! USA fireplayers would have waited until a hydrant was flowing, ladders were in place, and the roof was vented.
Petrol leak fire - old car problem. Luckily the driver turned off ignition to stop fuel pump and opened hood the get an extinguisher inserted and called firefighters.
I can't tell you how many times I've thought that while watching UA-cam videos. Having a pressurised water hose-reel on the back of the appliance is the difference.
In the USA several appliances would have responded, the firefighters would have spent valuable time running out yards and yards of hose and meanwhile the car would have been totally destroyed. Regular UA-cam viewers will have seen that time and time again. Top marks for the swift and effective action here!
@@clivebuckley6511Greetings from Southern California, sunny and 73 degrees today! But come on Clive, stop picking on us!.....your absolute right of course...dont know why, but its true.
I've watched the YT videos of the lads in Belgium, Netherlands and Germany as well as the UK, they're straight on the fire as well within seconds of arriving. Some of the US videos I just shake my head! The best one was of a car fire in a car park , the first engine to arrive was a ladder engine (WTF?) and by the time a water tender arrived the fire had spread to about 6 other cars and still no water on the fire!!
Indeed. Visibility is the real issue; if they slowed down as you would in fog (or did a U turn!) it would be less of a problem. Cars don't actually explode like they do in Hollywood fortunately. Incidentally i'd have been looking for water to chuck from the 'cold' side of the car, rather than standing there watching the thing burn. Those onlookers have watched too many films.
In addition to possible leaking fuel lines, if dirt or rust gets into the carbs, they overflow. Unless they are modified for safety, the fuel pours onto the chassis rail and / or the ground.
Yes, probably what happened here. Clearly the driver turned off the ignition and stopped the car as soon as they saw smoke. This would have stopped the fuel pump and limited the fire.
This looks like it was on its way to a sale as it was withdrawn from an auction on the 24th September 2021. Terrible shame but hope it got restored and then back out for sale
Correct. I looked up the Registration and found it listed for auction on the Isle of Wight. Withdrawn as you said. I hope it was saved. Originally owned by a former French racing driver back in the 1960’s.
Yes, I was indeed thinking OH NOOO, when this popped up on my screen. I have 2 very nice and very sentimental cars car i would be INCONSOLABLE IF THEY WERE LOST. My 1958 Cadillac that my parents bought in 1960, I was 1 year old...and my 68 Mustang I bought in 1977, when I was 18. Both lifelong Southern California cars, in great shape and on the road. I keep 2 fire extinguishers in each car. Replacing them every 4 years. Never had cause to use one, but better safe than sorry The wiring in both cars is totally original, everything works fine, but still...I even keep a fire extinguisher in my brand new cars.. so hoping this jag can be repaired and get back on the old road!
Yes, good job guys. I think putting in a foam additive would have taken a bit longer but I’m sure they had it and were ready if there was a fuel spill. Most UK car fires are extinguished quickly with just the water spray.
Fortunately this was Ryde where the fire station has a fire crew during the daytime. Night-time they respond from their home address so an additional 5+ minutes delay. Only Newport has full time crews 24/7. The other 8 Isle of Wight fire stations only have on-call (retained) firefighters.
You know you need to work in your SCBA drills if the officer not wearing SCBA has the fire suppressed before you’ve got your hood and helmet back on, this is the second video I’ve seen where that’s happened. I honestly don’t know why we don’t have high pressure booster lines on the trucks out here in North America, quick, efficient and way better than flaking out 500ft of 1-1/2” attack line for a vehicle fire. 🤷🏽♂️
They definitely don’t need to ‘work on their SCBA’ drills. That’s just how long it takes in the UK for non life critical calls. They can do a quicker drill for when they are needed for life rescue. And you’re right about the high pressure. I have no idea why it’s not standard for all fire appliances. Even a going house fire can initially benefit from hose reels with the revs ip high. SOOOO much quicker
Not a criticism but a genuine question.... Why is the Sub/crew manager (yellow helmet 2 stripes) the incident commander and the SO/watch manager (White helmet) the BECO? They've arrived in the same appliance
My father always kept fire extinguishers in his cars when we were growing up. I’ve done the same in all my cars and my children’s. If you catch the fire early and fight it quickly it may save a life and a car. Not necessarily your own car either.
Amazing Job done by the fire brigade !! In 2022 I lost my 25 cars (jags) in one big fire that came from the neigbourg's van that got on fire. Now i am sick, both mentally and fysically, and struggling to survive. On top of that i see myself contronted wiht crooked fire an car experts that are appointed by the judge to judge on the technical aspects. They work bothe for the insurance that has to pay for the dammage and at the same time for the court. This is Belgium, not Russia ! keep away from here. corruption all over the place.
Sad to see a classic in this state. By the way, correct designation is Jaguar Mark 2, I have one and this ‘Mark 2’ emblem is on the rear right boot lid. A common error Mark lol.
The car's registration at the DVLC is shown as still registered to that Jag. (Jan. 2023) but SORN (Statutory Off the Road Notice) so it looks like someone still has hopes of restoring it.
@@AndrewWLThomson they fix the ex minder capri after a fire a bit worse than this. But i suppose you have to put your own money in as well. Oh and the car looks very good now if you have not seen the before and after pics. 🇬🇧 👍
Shame on every damn driver passing and not stopping and trying to help with their car fire extinguishe. Its breaking my heart to see such a beatifull car on fire. Luckly fire crew did great job.
Insurance will almost certainly write it off as a Category B, so for parts only. Standard procedure for fire damage. To save it, the owner will have to foot the bill. The engine itself will be fine with new gaskets and a paint job but stripping the interior out (it will stink) to get at the other side of the bulkhead, new carbs, wiring loom etc. An awful sight to see. ☹
Yes he was fussing a bit. Probably a trainee. But the UK firefighters do get water on the fire asap after arrival, unlike the firefighters in all the USA videos who all walk around for minutes waiting for hoses to be rolled out - and the fire to totally destroy whatever is burning. Why?
@@AndrewWLThomson I know what you mean re USA firefighters....have a laugh at this one...ua-cam.com/video/PExcRJr_lG4/v-deo.html........U.K. firefighters are a different class
@@AndrewWLThomson Bullshit. YOu have NO idea of what you're talking about. We DON'T roll out hose, it's preconnected and we can put 3-4 times as much water on a fire making it go out faster.
@@IansOddInterests Only a moron thinks every fire dept. in the US is the same. We have THOUSANDS of different depts. That on was a volunteer dept. in Pennsylvania, the one state that has nearly NO training standards for volunteers.
@@ffjsb omg.. ffjsb. Stands for I think in your head ...... I am FF Just So Brilliant . Lol... the most incompetent Idiot on the fireground... change your name to ffDI..Firefighter dangerous and incompetent
Yes and a decent sized one most little fire extinguishers only run for a few seconds even a very large one you will only get 14 seconds out of it. 🇬🇧 👍
Could have been electrical but more likely a petrol fuel line leak. Older cars have rubber fuel lines that can perish and crack from using the new petrol formula.
Excellent job by the fire crew. If the car is not restorable, at least they saved a lot of valuable parts for someone else's project.
Opening the doors to vent the smoke so that it doesn't damage the interior? What champions this crew are! And the water was on the fire very quickly.
Agree. And the old school ‘firewall’ between engine and passenger compartment did its job.
Serious damaged - but still a chance for rebuilding thanks to the fast response of the firefighters. Well done brothers!
That's my point as well the car is of too much historic value for it not to be restored someone will do it
Considering the advancement of the fire it could have been much worse if hadn't been extinguished so quickly! Great job fire crew!!!
USA firefighters please note: Tender arrived at 01:34, High pressure hose deployed with water on fire at 01:53 with none of this messing about getting dry hoses out in straight lines. Well done UK Firefighters.
😂 yeah I know the USA fire fighters are crap compared to our UK fire fighters 😁
For those of use who own classic vehicles, that is one of our worst fears. The Fire Dept did a great job of acting quickly, and being careful not to cause any additional damage to the car
The UK has a fire *_department_* now, does it???
Looks like the car was repaired as it is currently on sorn. Last logbook issued 6th January 2022.
Suggests to me that it was sold after this. As it was not declared a total write off to the DVLA, they would have to either tax it or SORN it. As it was probably not insured by the new owner, they would have had to SORN it. I wonder if it will rise again, Phoenix-like, from the flames?
@@CaseyJonesNumber1 Sincerely hope so, what an amazing classic!
@@CaseyJonesNumber1no they won’t have to tax it?? Mate you’re forgetting classic cars don’t have to have tax?!
@@benconway9010 but it still has to be either SORN or "taxed" on record, despite the fact that there is no actual money to be paid. They can fine you if you don't do one or the other. Don't renew your "free" tax annually and it's on record as untaxed...
@ huh! I didn’t know you still had to get a tax???! I just thought they were completely exempt from having a tax and didn’t have to do anything???!!! Oh! That’s news to me thanks?!?!
Good job for not damaging the car , soaking the interior etc .
Absolutely
Heartbreaking. But repairable thanks to the firefighters .
Its a car if allrisk insurance its ok. Enough old Jags around.
Could this be a consequence of what the new E10 ethanol/petrol is having on (rubber) fuel delivery systems in older car engines?
I've been using the Ethanol fuel in my Mk2 and 420 here in the states for years--no problems whatsoever. Not saying it couldn't happen though, just my tuppence worth :)
@@s.achaplin2848 There is an outcry among vintage car collectors in the UK over the government introduced 10% ethanol mix in regular unleaded (E10) petrol.
@@AndrewWLThomson Motorcycle owners too, one of the most important things is to make sure your vehicle is fitted with ethanol compatible fuel lines, I also add on each fill the latest incarnation of Castrol Valvemaster which contains a stabillizer to help prevent corrosion damage and also contains an octane booster. There are videos on here showing you how to remove ethanol from the fuel you just bought using water and the separation method, afterwards you need to add octane booster. I really feel sorry for the owner of this Jag.
@@AndrewWLThomson Surely a vintage car owner could afford super unleaded, which is 5% ethanol.
@@tomsixsix. Decades of using the ethanol/petrol mix could have made those rubber fuel hoses break down and eventually spring a leak under pressure.
I hope the owner can get his car properly restored. That looks like a really nice classic!
Exactly. Fewer and fewer of these original oldies are still on the road.
@@HuskyGamersUNITE. 100% agree. And the owner must also know how to use that fire extinguisher most effectively- delay and the advantage is lost. Every second counts.
@@HuskyGamersUNITE Also, fuel lines can deteriorate and leak, it's good to check those regularly as well.
@@RandyDarkshade2 Ethanol added to petrol has now increased the chances of damage to pipelines and petrol related parts.
@@HuskyGamersUNITE The liquid and white foam around the front of the car at the start of the video might indicate that a fire extinguisher has already been used... but not enough to stop the fire.
Poor Jag. Well done to the fire brigade. Top job!
Agreed. Saved the car.
Yep, dealt with safely and thoroughly.
They also have the means to deal with the liquid nasties that leak from burning vehicles before they pollute the environment.
What a shame, hope the repair/restoration is viable. Nice job by fireman, and great to see them take care of the car and contents.
easy fix great job by the fire crew , they saved a classic
Great shame.Hopefully , this classic jag is restored again
Out of the truck and water on the fire in about a sixteenth of the time any American crew can do it, these fellows are professionals.
Having water onboard the appliance with a pump and long hose is a British tactic that goes back to fighting the fires in London during Blitz when bombs had destroyed the water mains.
Agree. Those great American firefighters need that hose reel badly. They need to demand better kit. Fantastic engines but no water!
Holy cow, by the time the guys had their scba on the fire was out…
@@vinylseatmost American engines carry between 500-1000 gallons of water. FYI. Ladder trucks may or may not carry water depending on local jurisdiction.
They also have the strong and responsible work ethic that USA fireplayers lack.
Nice to see the crew commander putting water on there first
Not crew-commander with white hat would of been watch manager next level up
This can happen on classic Jags if rust debris are pulled up from the petrol tank and get stuck in the needle valves at the top of the float chambers of the SU carbs, causing them to flood and to overspill into the engine bay. Jaguar engine bays are extremely hot and petrol will ignite very easily if it is allowed to leakout. The overflow pipes on top of the float chambers need to have overflow hoses fitted, so that any overspill is directed away from the engine and down to the ground, where the petrol is less likely to ignite. These overflow hoses are often missing from SU carbs, as overflow used to be such a rare event. However, with the introduction of ethanol in fuel, it causes any steel in the fuel system to corrode and flakes of rust to fall away and get into the carbs. Also, solder used to make the brass floats in the float chambers as well the brass itself is affected by the acetic acid, that ethanol oxidises to, will pull the zinc out of the brass and turn it into white zinc oxide. This will cause any brass parts to lose their integrity and leak. So, brass floats will need to be changed more frequently and needle valve seats will also need to be replaced if they show evidence of white corrosion.
Classic car owners need to:
- replace old steel fuel tanks with new galvanised ones.
- replace all rubber fuel hoses with ethanol resistant ones, as the old rubber will crack from ethanol exposure.
- replace all steel fuel lines from the fuel pump to the carbs with copper or cupro-nickel pipes.
- fit fuel filters between the tank and the fuel pump, and before the carbs.
- fit overflow hoses to the tops of the SU carb float chambers, long enough to exit fuel close to the ground and not in the engine bay.
- keep a small fire extinguisher in the car - they're cheap and will allow the fire to be subdued quicker once the bonnet is cracked open.
Insurance policies on classic cars often exclude cover for fuel fires, because they are so common and yet avoidable.
Excellent ponts. Great post. Thanks for sharing.
I actually had a serious fuel leak on a nearly new SU carburettor, where the fuel delivery pipe from the float chamber is crimped into the jet. Of course it dripped down perilously close to the exhaust manifold! I have never seen this on an SU before, and I glued it together with araldite until the new jet arrived.
Note that newer fuel pump overhaul kits have ethanol compatible diaphragms in them.
@@sunnyjim1372 I get rid of the SU fuel pumps and any other diaphragm pumps and replace them with Facet (Red Top) fuel pumps.
Excellent advice.
Now I would like to see a series of videos about the restauration of this amazing car. I hope for all of us, that they will do it.
That would be great, wouldn't it?
What a damn shame. Hope it can be restored.
Gosh! Glad the fire crew were there fast, hopefully it can be fix or parts can help restored others. Such a beautiful car.
In the USA they would have taken 5 minutes faffing around and it would have been destroyed.
@@SuperBarnaby12 you mean they don’t have water onboard the fire engines?
@@AndrewWLThomson Most of them don't so they have to wait for a water tender plus most are poorly trained volunteers. USA is woefully backwards in fire fighting.
@@SuperBarnaby12 yes, but why is that?
@@AndrewWLThomson Because most are volunteers and poorly trained. They run round like headless chickens whilst ours get on with the job immediately.
Some of these firefighters in the video, on the Isle of Wight, are also part-time, on-call firefighters.
Does anyone know if this was restored? Shame if it wasn't, it was valued at 12-15k at an auction in 2021, but was withdrawn. It also shows MOT expired 2020. Would love to know - beautiful Jag!!
That was burning around the carbs..
I've always been an advocate of the hard realed trash line. They're very underrated. You can get water on the fire in under 20 seconds of arrival. I don't see many US engines with hose reals anymore.
Good job. No dicking around. Stand back get water on the fire. While they get gear on. No nuckel head with a bar prying the hood open. Breaking out the glass. Well done.
💯%. Show them how it’s done.
Yes brother fellow firefighter. Perfect attack, carefull .good easy job. I’m retired now.k31 then k21.known as Henry, or crazzzze H. 🦾😇🤪👍👍🤝
such a shame to see a classic in distress like that good to see that the fire was contained so quickly too
Agree. Prompt action from Fire Crew saved the day.
Excelente trabajo de los bomberos, a tiempo y tuvieron cuidado de no mojar el interior del vehículo, todo el daño parece estar solo en el motor.
You’d have thought they’d check the interior for people as soon as they arrived? Surely even if someone told you no one was in it they should still check.
Good point.
great work on the fire crew part, treated the car with respect and didn't do additional damage, seen a few butcher cars for the sake of it
I wonder if it was fixed. Obviously it would be possible to fix it as it luckily was quite isolated. Just depends on cost i suppose.
Seen this a year ago utube re recommended it again. I wonder if its been restored again. 🇬🇧 👍
What a shame, what a lovely car- the inside looked really well restored.
Luckily the doors were left closed so the interior had very little fire or water damage.
@@AndrewWLThomson Yes - good point.
Sad to see 😢
It's got a 2.4 dashboard
Says cc 3.8 on vehicle inquiry
But that doesn't mean original it was a 3.8
Date of registration 1990
So import
I dought someone fitted a 2.4 dashboard
It probably is a 2.4 and fitted a 3.8 engine
I suspect you are Correct. I do know it was listed in a car auction on the island and then delisted after the fire. Auction listing stated it was initially owned by a former racing driver in the south of France - so definitely imported into the uk and registered here.
That one was restored to a Coombs spec car , note the louvres on the bonnet and trimmed rear wheel arches , that was a carb fire , common with older jags , the car is in good condition and fully restorable , anyone who drives a Coombs spec Mk2 will have the correct insurance and undoubtably be able to go back to the restorer !
Great effort by the fire brigade to save the car and not to damage it further. I’m sure it already back on the road.
Now that plumbed in fire extinguisher doesn't look so expensive.
They are a great in enclosed spaces like boats. May work in a car too with a little modification.
They might just have saved that beautiful car, hopefully? 😮
Well done fire crew, that poor damned car, what a heart breaking shame but I am sure restorable, fabulous classic but how and what caused this conflagration!
Very scary to have a fuel fire whilst driving. Saved by fast action by firefighters.
Hope that jag got fixed repaired 😢
Nobody knows
Do you have any idea what caused the fire? I don't want it to happen to our 1963 E Type
I didn't followup with the driver or the fire dept. But from what I was able to see it appeared that it was a fuel line fire - old cars have old rubber fuel lines that perish over time. Luckily the driver turned off the ignition as soon as he did which stopped the fuel pump - and stopped the fire spreading. He also unlatched the hood and used a fire extinguisher on it initially before the fire dept arrived. Always carry a good fire extinguisher in the car and get all fuel lines checked and replaced if its an older car.
It’s usually fuel dripping or spraying on to a hot exhaust. Just make fuel connections your priority and always get your car keeper to check under the bonnet with the engine running before commencing any journeys.
With the wiring of the automatic choke next to the carbs pipes, this is bound to happen on any mk2. And I’m not talking of the coil squeezed between the radiator and the cylinder head…
Your comment duly noted. My son and me currently restoring a Mk 2 240.
Older cars have less plastic to feed the fire than modern cars.
Very true, so much METAL and CHROME in my 58 caddy, even my 68 stang has a metal dash, metal interior doors ....
That one has walnut, that burns too.
Lots more petrol and oil leaks though…
Great job for the firefighters to come to the scene to get the fire on that jaguar out
Lovely camera work, nice scenery lovely architecture well done..👍
Ah that's a shame. Mk2 is my favourite classic car. I'm a jaguar fanatic
They have a presence
Absolutely devastating 😢 it looks like they caught it just in time ?
Well the interior looks untouched. Certainly a job that can be done to repair the engine compartment. My guess is the battery caught fire, so replace all electrics and make sure all is good on the engine. Stuff like alternator or dynamo will be gone. Isn't this a 3.4, though?
Yes. And a lick of paint. My research based on the registration search and its billing in a car auction came back as 3.8. But it could be wrong.
Clearly efforts made not to damage the car further.
Agreed. The firemen “popped” the hood open rather than using crowbars or cutters.
20 seconds to get water flowing! That sure as heck wasn't in the USA! USA fireplayers would have waited until a hydrant was flowing, ladders were in place, and the roof was vented.
Even after the fire it's still a beautiful motor.
Nice Jag! Nice fire truck!
No electronic junks in those cars, so what happend??
Petrol leak fire - old car problem. Luckily the driver turned off ignition to stop fuel pump and opened hood the get an extinguisher inserted and called firefighters.
@@AndrewWLThomson thanks for the infos.Greetings from Québec Canada!⚜️🇨🇦
So glad they put out the fire so quickly. In America they would have probably used a disc cutter to open the bonnet - certainly in LA.
Thank God the UK has the very best fire service in the world. In the USA they would have fumbled around until it was burned out.
I can't tell you how many times I've thought that while watching UA-cam videos. Having a pressurised water hose-reel on the back of the appliance is the difference.
In the USA several appliances would have responded, the firefighters would have spent valuable time running out yards and yards of hose and meanwhile the car would have been totally destroyed. Regular UA-cam viewers will have seen that time and time again. Top marks for the swift and effective action here!
@@clivebuckley6511Greetings from Southern California, sunny and 73 degrees today! But come on Clive, stop picking on us!.....your absolute right of course...dont know why, but its true.
Gump you’re a freaking genius
I've watched the YT videos of the lads in Belgium, Netherlands and Germany as well as the UK, they're straight on the fire as well within seconds of arriving. Some of the US videos I just shake my head! The best one was of a car fire in a car park , the first engine to arrive was a ladder engine (WTF?) and by the time a water tender arrived the fire had spread to about 6 other cars and still no water on the fire!!
did som1 convert this jag to electric.
Who knows what happened next but at the time of the fire it was definitely 97 octane petrol.
LOL! Obviously not, as the fire brigade managed to put it out.
If they did, the next Fire wont be extinguished that fast.
Are people really that stupid driving past a car on fire that close
yea, people gotta be where they gotta be.
Indeed. Visibility is the real issue; if they slowed down as you would in fog (or did a U turn!) it would be less of a problem. Cars don't actually explode like they do in Hollywood fortunately. Incidentally i'd have been looking for water to chuck from the 'cold' side of the car, rather than standing there watching the thing burn. Those onlookers have watched too many films.
Yes.
Superb heater
On a hot summers day😅
Is this the alternative ending to Withnail and I??
“Never mix your drinks…”
….except with cake…..Chin Chin:-))
Nah, car’s too tidy! “I’m making time!”.
GET IN THE BACK OF THE VAN!!
In addition to possible leaking fuel lines, if dirt or rust gets into the carbs, they overflow. Unless they are modified for safety, the fuel pours onto the chassis rail and / or the ground.
Yes, probably what happened here. Clearly the driver turned off the ignition and stopped the car as soon as they saw smoke. This would have stopped the fuel pump and limited the fire.
That happened to me in an S Type. The auto choke/enrichment cables caught in the return spring, shorted and set the car on fire.
Oh dear. I hope you were able to save the car?
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Thanks for watching!
breaks my heart to see this .....well done Trumpton
Same. 🇬🇧👍
Gran trabajo!!!! Felicitaciones bomberos!!!!❤
Gran trabajo👍
Buen trabajo el de bomberos. Con cariño y paciencia se recuperara ese hermoso coche...😊
This looks like it was on its way to a sale as it was withdrawn from an auction on the 24th September 2021. Terrible shame but hope it got restored and then back out for sale
Correct. I looked up the Registration and found it listed for auction on the Isle of Wight. Withdrawn as you said. I hope it was saved. Originally owned by a former French racing driver back in the 1960’s.
what a shame such a nice old classic car, don't se them very often at all
What a shame!!!!😢
WM Pump operator and BA Control, CM Oic????
The WM was not the Pump Op, He was doing Eco, Probably the CM is in development and carrying out Oic role under the WM's observation
Yes, I was indeed thinking OH NOOO, when this popped up on my screen. I have 2 very nice and very sentimental cars car i would be INCONSOLABLE IF THEY WERE LOST. My 1958 Cadillac that my parents bought in 1960, I was 1 year old...and my 68 Mustang I bought in 1977, when I was 18. Both lifelong Southern California cars, in great shape and on the road. I keep 2 fire extinguishers in each car. Replacing them every 4 years. Never had cause to use one, but better safe than sorry The wiring in both cars is totally original, everything works fine, but still...I even keep a fire extinguisher in my brand new cars.. so hoping this jag can be repaired and get back on the old road!
From the heart. Good comment.
3 years now gone by, did you manage to salvage any of it?
Well done the boys in red, had water on the flames within twenty seconds of arrival! shame it wasn`t foam though?
Yes, good job guys. I think putting in a foam additive would have taken a bit longer but I’m sure they had it and were ready if there was a fuel spill. Most UK car fires are extinguished quickly with just the water spray.
Water and petrol don't mix very well, foam smothered the flame.but hay, still a good job!
@@MrfortThey don't but it seems as though the fire crew knows what to do.
At least they got there in good time. That car can be saved.
Fortunately this was Ryde where the fire station has a fire crew during the daytime. Night-time they respond from their home address so an additional 5+ minutes delay. Only Newport has full time crews 24/7. The other 8 Isle of Wight fire stations only have on-call (retained) firefighters.
They were heavy winds coming in shore I see.
Da war sicher ein Zusatzbenzinfilter aus Kunststoff verbaut…… 😢
Possibly yes
Almost doesn't look real... I wonder what caused the fire.
A good old fashioned petrol carburettors overflow fire.
No lithium batteries involved.
You know you need to work in your SCBA drills if the officer not wearing SCBA has the fire suppressed before you’ve got your hood and helmet back on, this is the second video I’ve seen where that’s happened. I honestly don’t know why we don’t have high pressure booster lines on the trucks out here in North America, quick, efficient and way better than flaking out 500ft of 1-1/2” attack line for a vehicle fire. 🤷🏽♂️
100% agreed
A problem sadly these days where the BA sets are not carried in the cab so can’t be donned en route.
They definitely don’t need to ‘work on their SCBA’ drills. That’s just how long it takes in the UK for non life critical calls. They can do a quicker drill for when they are needed for life rescue. And you’re right about the high pressure. I have no idea why it’s not standard for all fire appliances. Even a going house fire can initially benefit from hose reels with the revs ip high. SOOOO much quicker
@@Metlamaniac. Yep. Seconds save lives. “Get water on that fire”
Friend's Mk2 burned down the same way some years ago. This happens due to a design flaw in conjunktion with ageing.
Very scary. Replace those rubber fuel hoses guys.
Ausgezeichnet, angekommen und sofort gelöscht! Ein großes Kompliment an die Feuerwehr! Spitze!
Not a criticism but a genuine question.... Why is the Sub/crew manager (yellow helmet 2 stripes) the incident commander and the SO/watch manager (White helmet) the BECO? They've arrived in the same appliance
Good observation. Only the IoW FB would know the answer to that one.
He may have been on development and needed command experience for portfolio.
20years ago I had a number of old Saab's, 99 turbo best of the bunch and first thing I did was install fire extinguisher just in case.
My father always kept fire extinguishers in his cars when we were growing up. I’ve done the same in all my cars and my children’s. If you catch the fire early and fight it quickly it may save a life and a car. Not necessarily your own car either.
Unusual heating system for that model .
😂
Amazing Job done by the fire brigade !! In 2022 I lost my 25 cars (jags) in one big fire that came from the neigbourg's van that got on fire. Now i am sick, both mentally and fysically, and struggling to survive. On top of that i see myself contronted wiht crooked fire an car experts that are appointed by the judge to judge on the technical aspects. They work bothe for the insurance that has to pay for the dammage and at the same time for the court. This is Belgium, not Russia ! keep away from here. corruption all over the place.
That’s terrible 😢
Sad to see a classic in this state. By the way, correct designation is Jaguar Mark 2, I have one and this ‘Mark 2’ emblem is on the rear right boot lid. A common error Mark lol.
Where is the car owner?? 😢
"Oh the humanity "
Probably ethanol.
Rapide et efficace
Bravo messieurs
Well done lads
Definitely, saved the car
Yes indeed
Sad
Was this car written off or could it be restored?
Good question. Sadly we may never know. But I know it was listed for auction before the fire happened.
The car's registration at the DVLC is shown as still registered to that Jag. (Jan. 2023) but SORN (Statutory Off the Road Notice) so it looks like someone still has hopes of restoring it.
Right off for sure, they wouldn't replace my brothers bumper.
Yea true. Depends what this classic was worth - my guess is £12k. If it’s gonna cost more than £12k to fix then it’s a right off. Pity.
@@AndrewWLThomson Hopefully classic insurance on it.
@@AndrewWLThomson they fix the ex minder capri after a fire a bit worse than this. But i suppose you have to put your own money in as well. Oh and the car looks very good now if you have not seen the before and after pics. 🇬🇧 👍
@@AndrewWLThomson Paint job and new fuel hoses, job done. it's on SORN at this time, so not written off.
@@terrystevens5261 Well that would be good news if someone makes the effort to put it back on the road. As a classic its exempt from UK road TAX.
Wasn’t an electric car conversion?
Shame on every damn driver passing and not stopping and trying to help with their car fire extinguishe.
Its breaking my heart to see such a beatifull car on fire.
Luckly fire crew did great job.
Agreed. Fire crew saved the car. Amazing how quick action with just water can stop a fire.
What the hell were they going to do? Not every car has a fire extinguisher.
@@Brian13549 I thought is a mandatory for every car to have 1.
@@sirmarek78 Nope.
Lets hope the Jag is not beyond redemption , hats off to the Fire men.
That's actually painful to see.
Insurance will almost certainly write it off as a Category B, so for parts only. Standard procedure for fire damage. To save it, the owner will have to foot the bill. The engine itself will be fine with new gaskets and a paint job but stripping the interior out (it will stink) to get at the other side of the bulkhead, new carbs, wiring loom etc. An awful sight to see. ☹
Hopefully someone acquired it and restored it. These big old naturally aspirated engines are not made anymore.
Why did that idiot walked right through the smoke ,they could of went the other side of the car Lolol
Old school car fire. No Li batteries heavy metal fumes. Just good old petrol, rubber and paint.
Lol...that 2nd bloke needs to practice putting on his BA set... But he was good at walking about ...
Yes he was fussing a bit. Probably a trainee. But the UK firefighters do get water on the fire asap after arrival, unlike the firefighters in all the USA videos who all walk around for minutes waiting for hoses to be rolled out - and the fire to totally destroy whatever is burning. Why?
@@AndrewWLThomson I know what you mean re USA firefighters....have a laugh at this one...ua-cam.com/video/PExcRJr_lG4/v-deo.html........U.K. firefighters are a different class
@@AndrewWLThomson Bullshit. YOu have NO idea of what you're talking about. We DON'T roll out hose, it's preconnected and we can put 3-4 times as much water on a fire making it go out faster.
@@IansOddInterests Only a moron thinks every fire dept. in the US is the same. We have THOUSANDS of different depts. That on was a volunteer dept. in Pennsylvania, the one state that has nearly NO training standards for volunteers.
@@ffjsb omg.. ffjsb. Stands for I think in your head ...... I am FF Just So Brilliant . Lol... the most incompetent Idiot on the fireground... change your name to ffDI..Firefighter dangerous and incompetent
Older cars like these should really carry fire extinguishers. Not expensive.
Yes and a decent sized one most little fire extinguishers only run for a few seconds even a very large one you will only get 14 seconds out of it. 🇬🇧 👍
If you notice the bonnet is partially open and a big pool of foamy water under the car. Someone's tried to use an extinguisher unsuccessfully.
must have been serious the watch manager is fighting the fire.
Get water on that fire asap
Why!!?!!!!!
Could have been electrical but more likely a petrol fuel line leak. Older cars have rubber fuel lines that can perish and crack from using the new petrol formula.
@@AndrewWLThomson That is a shame.
Why? As unfortunate as it sometimes a fault in a car causes a fire.