clicky buttons means that they are switches and not membranes. I prefer switches for longevity. I can see that the Novation sliders have a longer sweep at cost of deskspace depth. Velocity is adjustable on M Audio for sure.
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After your review i bought the oygen pro, so now i have launchkey 37 mk3 and oyxgen pro 61, the pad of the launchkey are far better ,more responsive and with aftertouch but smaller and there 's no note repeat ( i miss it ), i don't really like the keybed on the lk nor on the op, the keybed on the launchkey feels "hollow" like you said and there's aftertouch on the op but the spring on the launchkey is a bit more tense so i feel more connected to the launchkey so at the end i am more confortable with the launchkey The pitch wheel and modwheel on the launchkey are better too ( there's a kind of lag on pitchbend of oxy pro). It's easier on the oxgen pro to make custom preset , and overall there are more functionnality, but to me when they do have the same functionnality novation is better (pad is better, keybed is a bit better, arpeggiator, is better and scale is better. Also m-audio to release software and firmware update, ;-) they want us to spend our money so i don't think there will be a perfect midi keyboard ;-) i would like a oxyen pro with more tense on the keybed and heavier key, aftertouch on pad and more responsive pad, or a launchkey with note repeat , heavier key and more customisation (ascii on pad for example for shortcut)
Novation faders are much better than I expected and the drum pads (same as Launchpad) are great. Novation support for Logic Pro is strong, right down to plugin and VST integration with the Logic Smart Controls. Every vendor has basic DAW support, but device level integration is very rare. I owned a few M-Audio keyboards in the past, attracted by the semi-weighted keys, but the company drops support for legacy keyboards too early for me. I’m expecting longer support from Novation.
@@JeffyG FL studio. I would get FLKeys 37 if I had a cheap price at my country but I got Oxygen Pro 25. Actually 20$ cheaper than normal price thanks to prime day of amazon.
The Oxygen Pro is a fine keyboard, the semi-weighted keys are fine. But, as August 11th 2021, it doesn’t work yet with macOS Big Sur and Logic Pro X, I returned it to the dealer and I instead bought the M-Audio Keystation 88 MKIII.
Me too! What DAW you planning on using, may I ask? And I hope all purchasing the M-Audio Oxygen Pro series are ordering the Decksaver for protecting your keys!!! 🙂 I don’t work there, want a deck cover for mine, lol, and they don’t make for Oxygen Pro series yet, they said they need more inquiries, requests before they’ll tool up!?!
I have them both at home and gonna return the M-Audio. The keybed is way better than the Launchkey, but the fact that when DAW knobs are selected, the rest won't work anymore. Can't even do an arpeggiator. And switching the arp on and off, is really annoying. I am an Ableton user.
M audio sure kmows how to make a very beautiful midi keys. Talk of the code 61, oxygen pro 61,they pleasing to the eyes 😍 I think it'll be great if you could do a review of m audio code 61, oxygen pro 61 and Novation impulse 61. I'm sure there's gonna be alot of competition going on there, it'll be helpful if you could run it. Nice work you're doing man Great review!
Спасибо, бро! Нереально помог с выбором. Я уже пятнадцатый день ломаю голову) Всё перебрал, всё перерыл. Десятки инструментов и сотни предложений. В результате остались эти два кандидата. После твоего видео остановился на Novation Launchkey. Боялся, что она сильно хуже Oxigen pro, но понял, что это не так. И у неё даже много преимуществ, которые имеют для меня большое значение.
Прямо моя история )) Как ощущения от клавиш Novation? В моем финальном выборе остались Novation Launchkey 61 Mk3 и M-audio Oxygen 61 MKV, так как у него клавиши без металлических пружин, чисто пластик-фантастик. Пока еще в процессе выбора. Exactly my story)) How do you feel the Novation keys? Novation Launchkey 61 Mk3 and M-audio oxygen 61 mkV are participating in my final voting. Still in the selection process.
@@TembelUser не, я вообще не понимаю как aftertuch использовать. Для меня преимущество, что менее шумная сама клавиатура и ооооч крутые пэды. Я кайфую с них прям.
This is a very surprising comparison in relation to the DAW support. The M-Audio actually provides absolutely zero support for Logic, apart from basic HUI. On the other hand, the Launchkey mk3 (even its mini version) has excellent Logic support, including using the pads to Mute/Solo/arm tracks. The M-Audio has a good keybed, if you like a feel similar to an electric piano, and it has aftertouch. The drum pads are a bit tough, but it’s a question of getting used to them.
@@Trensharo You are absolutely right! My LK 49 Mk3 is on the way and I can't accept M-audio for Ableton even though its certified but Novation is king of Ableton. I have NI M32 which is great and compact but I hate the click button, I really do and the M audio use the same thing. I also have Mac Studio mk2 and you cannot use it as secondary device out of MPC software unless you fiddle with advance scripting which I have no interest or time for so I stored it and use Renaissance. I do use my mk3 with Maschine as VST in Ableton and I can't complain this thing is a beauty and I love it. but the important point I want to make is I don't want to reach for mk3 I want the all the controls on the keyboard that's why I chose the LK I wanted SL mk3 but its 3x times the price. I use Ableton and MPC software then FLstudio/Logic rarely so I don't see myself needing the oxygen even though it has attractive feature. Only if LK had endless encoder, Note repeat, and banks would be perfect like you said. Limited knobs are very stupid and annoying they saved for the SL mk3 which understandable and stupid, it should be prohibited and chased by federal government. The blue screen is hideous and feels like the 90s but whatever. Also remapping is big problem for most midi devices because I have to keep memorizing what this button do and shift + whatever weird combo is just a buzz kill. I just can't like the oxygen even though I haven't tried it but I hate everything about it, the layout the pads. Maybe I just hate ugly keyboards. LOL enjoy yours
Hello, John. I know you have mentioned it in the video but after some time now with both keyboards, which one would you use for expressive piano playing and even orchestral stuff playing? My main concern with the Keylaunch not being at least semi weighted is that it could affect dynamics like you mentioned. As for the M Audio my main concern is the lack of support and respect for the costumer. Having owned several of their stuff it's been a nightmare to deal with because they often abandon support and don't even reply to costumers, which is a slap in the face. Kind of what Native Instruments is doing with the A series by not allowing us to change the velocity curve so we buy the more expensive S series. I mean velocity curve changing is something keyboards from 20+ years ago already had, hence why i want to get rid of my komplete kontrol A49. What about the faders? Which ones feel better/more premium? I'm so thorn. I like the faders on the left to control dynamics, expression and vibrato but the fader lanes on the M Audio seem so short. I also like the mostly black pads on the M Audio with the little bit of color but the material seems better on the Keylaunch; i also prefer rubber buttons and knobs that clicky buttons. I also don't like those red buttons on the M Audio. They remind me of the red lights on power extensions, blinking like a candle. I wish companies went all out in quality and features even on budget keyboards. Seems like is always something they take back to save some money. Thanks alot.
Since I'm learning multiple DAWs I really don't have a problem with my Oxygen Pro 61 if you're a heavy Logic user and the control functionality is what your looking for go with the Launchkey for sure. You can work around it but it definitely ain't for logic although now even in logic it's my main board so it just depends on you. It works perfect in GarageBand however which is weird because you know Logic is based off of GB so it doesn't make sense why it was so hard for them to make it compatible all the way with logic. Regardless im happy overall with my board hope this helps guys.
Me too! What DAW you planning on using, may I ask? And I hope all purchasing the M-Audio Oxygen Pro series are ordering the Decksaver for protecting your keys!!! 🙂 I don’t work there, want a deck cover for mine, lol, and they don’t make for Oxygen Pro series yet, they said they need more inquiries, requests before they’ll tool up!?!
@@keithholman1438 I will be sure to tag their socials and lobby for it for sure I treat it like a new born baby since my oldest girl is 4 and now my 1yr twins are mobile 😆 🤦🏾♂️ also im learning pro tools and getting familiar with MPC and ableton along with FL
Me too! What DAW you planning on using, may I ask? And I hope all purchasing the M-Audio Oxygen Pro series are ordering the Decksaver for protecting your keys!!! 🙂 I don’t work there, want a deck cover for mine, lol, and they don’t make for Oxygen Pro series yet, they said they need more inquiries, requests before they’ll tool up!?!
I can only say my opinion about the oxygen pro here that I had to test it myself. Yes, the features are good and the keybed is aftertouch and semi-weighted. That feels good. But there is big problem which makes it a no go. The velocity of the black keys is a disaster. Compared to the white keys, they have less dynamics and respond too strongly. Even with a light touch, the velocity is higher than the white keys. This unequal behavior of the touch dynamics cannot be compensated with the editor either, which makes it possible to set different curves. The problem still remains. That's why you can't play dynamically with it. With Piano Vst's this is of course important. Unfortunately not a good choice. The semi-weighted keyboard doesn't help either.
Bought it last year seduced by the semi-weighted keys, after plugging it in and testing it a bit i felt really disappointed with velocity curves on black keys, if you come from a piano background (not just classical but used to play with dynamics) you will definitely feel that its not good, its just too much.. while it may have a lot of good features for daws and a nice look its not to play live piano or rhodes, although it works for a non-dependant-velocity instrument like a hammond. If i had to buy it again i would definitely choose an other option.
I know this is old, but I believe you can change the velocity curve on these. Was possible on the old Axiom from like 10 years ago, so I'd assume these latest versions can do it too.
@@JamieR just want to confirm that I picked up a used oxygen pro, and it still has this problem. It's possible to change the velocity curve, which dampens the problem but it never goes away. Ultimately, while the keybed feels good, the velocity issues were bad enough for me to return the keyboard.
Great review. You confirmed my Oxygen Pro 49 decision. One man's bug is another man's feature. I like the tactile, audible response of the buttons on the Oxygen, I like having pads on the right side (I'm right handed), and I use Pro Tools so the Ableton compatibility doesn't do much for me. Thanks for the clear and concise comparison.
How would you compare new Launchkey 61 MK4 to M-Audio Oxygen Pro 61? I'm seeking a new board and now stuck on these two. What would you say are the main pros and cons/differences? I mainly use ableton, studio one and reaper!
which key is heavier? the oxygen pro is classified as semi weighted, so it should be heavier than the launchkey right? i mean in term of heaviness toward a digital piano thing (of course not the same cos fully weighted), i have played the launchkey before, its a bit light for my touch so prefer heavier keys to do orchestral stuff
Many thanks. Solid review. TBH I'm looking to buy the M-Audio & was searching for a bit of confirmation bias, but you make an interesting point about the clicky-clacky issue. Peace!
Was interesting to hear that you judged the novation keybed as more dynamic. The sound does seem to sustain for a bit longer/in a softer way. I'll have to test that out next time I'm at a store. To be honest though, when I was trying the novation launchkey MK3 vs M-audio keystation MK3 (which I believe has the same keybed as the oxygen pro), I wrote off the novation because of the keys. They felt more springy and the pressure vs sound curve seemed imbalanced - to get the loudest sound, I had to press rather hard. On m-audio the pressure vs sound gradation seemed smoother. I'm very much a beginner though, so I'd be interested to hear others' opinion on this.
The velocity sensitivity can be adjusted on either controller, so if you have to press too hard, or vice versa, you can change the pickup from linear to logarithmic, or to hardcoded zones like 3 part 40/70/127, 2 part 64/127 or lock it to 1 value like 80 90 or 100.
The MAudio will have velocity curves and you can adjust them to suit your playing style. The pads can also be set as well for touch and response. The keys are semi weighted on the MAudio. It will be nicer to play and after all the keybed itself is what you use the most. Lack of After touch on the Launchkey is bad. It's a no brainer actually. MAudio also intergrates very well with Ableton.
Great review, I came from using an Oxygen 61 Series 3 from like 2010, so I went ahead and went for the Oxygen Pro 61. But the Novation really looks like something I would love to use as I am an Ableton guy. But I already purchased the Oxygen, so... Guess I should have watched the video first lol.
The dynamic feel that you're talking about with the m audio, could that be adjusted with a velocity curve or is that something in the fundamentals of the design? Thanks for making these videos. Much appreciated.
@@Johnmike same question like him brother can we adjust its velocity equivalent or close to notation Loanchkeys. And seconds i want know more about the pads means (which one have the more sensitive pad) and last frome the video m audios build quality seems to be bit flimsy and plasticy idk but i just want to know your opinion about that and thx for this video :)
I'm one of those newb spuds, I bought the mk3 novation 88 cheap as thinking it was a synth ha ha. Where's the power port I thought? Where's the output jack? I got it cheap as seeing as I couldn't test it (2nd hand) figured I'd just use it stand alone right? Use the usb for power and the midi for an output to my pa right? Well after a roller coaster of emotion and research later, I have one of these, now use both a daw and controller for the first time and am happy af I accidentally landed in the world of midi controllers. Already have an arrangement in mind.
Me too! What DAW you planning on using, may I ask? And I hope all purchasing the M-Audio Oxygen Pro series are ordering the Decksaver for protecting your keys!!! 🙂 I don’t work there, want a deck cover for mine, lol, and they don’t make for Oxygen Pro series yet, they said they need more inquiries, requests before they’ll tool up!?!
I have the same two keyboards that you have bro! So far, I've been working more the LaunchKey board. I plan on working with the Oxygen Pro board this week to get a better comparison of the two boards. Thanks.
@Scripturenest Arturia Keylab, Nektar Panorama, Akai MPK-series have aftertouch. Take a look at the Keylab first. (Panorama designed to integrate with all DAWs except the ones I use, Ableton and Logic. Nice if you use other DAWs though.)
@@qwe1231 Midi controllers are not just for synth use though. If synth work is your bag then cool, but for me the weighted keys suits my piano background.
I have an oxygen pro 49 but it doesn't work well with cubase. You can assign up to 8 quick controls to those knobs or faders but that's it. Also, if you try to use quick controls you have to switch the daw integration preset to user instead. Sometimes you can tweak some vst parameters with the non-assigned knobs tho
Got the 61 but Me too! What DAW you planning on using, may I ask? And I hope all purchasing the M-Audio Oxygen Pro series are ordering the Decksaver for protecting your keys!!! 🙂 I don’t work there, want a deck cover for mine, lol, and they don’t make for Oxygen Pro series yet, they said they need more inquiries, requests before they’ll tool up!?!
@@barker_ As soon as I connected it to my daw for the first time it worked as M-Audio intended and advertised with cubase. But I assign those faders to the cubase pro 10.5.30 quick controls instead of normal use. Instead of being able to adjust individual channel faders, that is more useful to write automation. I really struggled to assign them to quick controls. This midi keyboard messes up your midi and assigns everything to midi 1 or whatever random values when you try to do something different
Very useful detail in this video, but you keeping saying “this” rather than the name of the controller. I was listening on a walk and had to keep checking the screen & rewinding to see where your hands were hovering to see what “this” meant. Otherwise thanks… I’m more informed but further from a decision! 😂 guess they’re both decent options!
I haven't seen any demo of the M-audio with Ableton, but the Launchkey for example lets you capture midi, stop/start/record, launch scenes and clips (!), control devices (VST, plugins). The novation is the best integrated with Ableton of all midi keyboards. Check out loopop's review.
I've been watching your MIDI keyboard controller reviews. As a pianist, which do you think has the better keybed between these two in this video, Alesis v25, and Nektar Impact LX25+? I think I'd be better off getting one with Midi Out so I'm focusing on the 2 in this video, but also considering other options. I need something with a mod wheel and drum pads, that also feels as much like playing a piano as possible in terms of the weight and responsively of the keys. Preferably semi-weighted, and I don't care whether the keys are stubby or full length, but they've got to be full width. I'd appreciate it if you could share your opinion as a pianist as to which would be best between these. Thanks!
If keyboard feel is highly important, the best value is Hammer 88 from M Audio. Not so much a controller like these two, but superb piano feel (I've been playing piano for 50 years)
Hello. I am very interested in the launchkey mk3, especially because of the technology it has, since I don't just know the basics on the keyboard. I understand it is compatible with the Cubase program (via HUI), since I use that program. But will I be able to use all the functionalities or what functions could not be performed with Cubase? since I understand this is optimized for Ableton Thanks I hope you can read me
What do you think about the keybed of the nektar panorama t4/t6 in comparison to the oxygon pro? Couldn't find any reviews about the panoramas on the channel
I didn't get to try out the Novation. I'm an Ableton user but it seems the MAudio can do most if not all of the Ableton stuff. I do like the Novation layout better but the keybed was the most important one. I just couldn't agree to the hollow feel of the Novation keys.
Me too! What DAW you planning on using, may I ask? And I hope all purchasing the M-Audio Oxygen Pro series are ordering the Decksaver for protecting your keys!!! 🙂 I don’t work there, want a deck cover for mine, lol, and they don’t make for Oxygen Pro series yet, they said they need more inquiries, requests before they’ll tool up!?!
You’re talking semi-weighted vs a full weighted 88key piano style keys...it’s apples and oranges...but the keylab is one of the best feeling keybeds out there...but if given the choice...I would get the SL88 by studiologic because it’s the same keybed for half the price
can you set up sounds to increase in volume with slides? I have the M-audio pro 61 and I want to be able to use it in worship settings along with the sliders to fade in sounds… can someone let me know.
I have the Oxygen Pro 49, very wonky and doest stay connected, each time I start a new pro tools session, I have to find out why I'm not connected. My AKAI MPK MINI connects withought me having to do anything.
I've seen you have quite a number of videos involving the Novation Launchkey, but could you also do a review on the Novation Impulse? It seems to be quite popular.
You know, let me tell you, I watched this video before choosing between the Novation Launchkey MK3 49 (purchased) and the M-Audio Pro 49, and it helped. I use Ableton and Acid. I also am a long-time M-Audio user (Oxygen 25 Air(?), Radium 49, and Oxygen-II 49) so I had a sense of brand loyalty. But when I took a deeper look at the Novation MK3, I really liked the way the drum pads are so multi-use, and can quickly be used for so many modes. It would've been good to bring light to this. Novation put a lot of extra and very useful function modes into the drum pad area, ie: sound and instrument library menu navigation. I also like the way the Novation's track buttons on the bottoms of the sliders light up matching the colors of the Ableton DAW's track colors. But yeah, I miss the on/off switch too. In the end, I got a sense that M-Audio has just fell behind in terms of function and electronic modernity. The Oxygen Pro has some good things going for it, but I would expect more from a company so established in this market. When compared side by side to the Novation, the Oxygen pro still feels like the company is stuck in the old heyday Oxygen-II days. Novation offers a sleek, versatile, well-crafted, and functionally deep midi controller. But to be honest? I'll most likely get a Novation SL-MK3 49 next. Now that's a controller.
I just got the 49 version. I have 5 black keys with a “clicky” sound when pressed… anyone experienced this or does all your black keys sound the same when pressed?
I like the power switch, I have a Keystation 61es and a Launchpad X but they are plunged on the HUB at the monitor and that is always powered, I can just turn the switch on the M-Audio but I need unplung the launchpad or I will have a full color rainbow all the night at my room :,D
I just ordered the M Audio one I ordered it today cause I do a lot of looping music videos on my channel so I needed a midi controller like the M Audio oxygen
always awesome! PS: novation clean winner for me, i hate clicky buttons. someday i buy mk3 like a "addon" for my CME 88 and change my horrible samson carbon (worst midi keyboard ever)
The Samson carbon 61 is the one I'm looking to replace now octave up button stop working if I press the transpose button one it renders like I pressed it more than one and my d#/eb keys work amd stops idk
Thanks for the good review. I am interested in a comparison between the arpeggiator, chord and scale modes between these two. Was this something you looked at? I suspect Launchkey is better. Then also compatibility with Cubase. It is a shame Launchkey does not have aftertouch - though its pads do (according to the manual). Novation SLMkIII has all of the above - but over my budget. Right now, Launchkey 61 is cheaper than Launchkey 49 where I am ! (Sorry if the comment appears twice? I'm having trouble with UA-cam).
Dude just gotta say I love your channel. Straight to the point, legit reviews of hardware. Thank you.
But do you really really love it? lol
@@sarys73 I do
clicky buttons means that they are switches and not membranes. I prefer switches for longevity. I can see that the Novation sliders have a longer sweep at cost of deskspace depth. Velocity is adjustable on M Audio for sure.
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After your review i bought the oygen pro, so now i have launchkey 37 mk3 and oyxgen pro 61, the pad of the launchkey are far better ,more responsive and with aftertouch but smaller and there 's no note repeat ( i miss it ), i don't really like the keybed on the lk nor on the op, the keybed on the launchkey feels "hollow" like you said and there's aftertouch on the op but the spring on the launchkey is a bit more tense so i feel more connected to the launchkey so at the end i am more confortable with the launchkey
The pitch wheel and modwheel on the launchkey are better too ( there's a kind of lag on pitchbend of oxy pro).
It's easier on the oxgen pro to make custom preset , and overall there are more functionnality, but to me when they do have the same functionnality novation is better (pad is better, keybed is a bit better, arpeggiator, is better and scale is better.
Also m-audio to release software and firmware update, ;-) they want us to spend our money so i don't think there will be a perfect midi keyboard ;-) i would like a oxyen pro with more tense on the keybed and heavier key, aftertouch on pad and more responsive pad, or a launchkey with note repeat , heavier key and more customisation (ascii on pad for example for shortcut)
What about the weighting of the keys? I didn't get which you prefer.
Novation faders are much better than I expected and the drum pads (same as Launchpad) are great. Novation support for Logic Pro is strong, right down to plugin and VST integration with the Logic Smart Controls. Every vendor has basic DAW support, but device level integration is very rare. I owned a few M-Audio keyboards in the past, attracted by the semi-weighted keys, but the company drops support for legacy keyboards too early for me. I’m expecting longer support from Novation.
So it all depends what you're using as DAW.
@@supernotnatural what DAW are you using?
@@JeffyG FL studio. I would get FLKeys 37 if I had a cheap price at my country but I got Oxygen Pro 25. Actually 20$ cheaper than normal price thanks to prime day of amazon.
The Oxygen Pro is a fine keyboard, the semi-weighted keys are fine. But, as August 11th 2021, it doesn’t work yet with macOS Big Sur and Logic Pro X, I returned it to the dealer and I instead bought the M-Audio Keystation 88 MKIII.
Much appreciate the point of view and your clear explanation of integration with particular DAWs
John Mike coming in clutch again to make me feel good about my purchase. Love my Oxygen.
Me too! What DAW you planning on using, may I ask? And I hope all purchasing the M-Audio Oxygen Pro series are ordering the Decksaver for protecting your keys!!! 🙂 I don’t work there, want a deck cover for mine, lol, and they don’t make for Oxygen Pro series yet, they said they need more inquiries, requests before they’ll tool up!?!
These came down to my top 2. Appreciate you having this exact review I was looking for!
What about Arturia Essential, what do you think about that one? These three are in my top three.
I have them both at home and gonna return the M-Audio. The keybed is way better than the Launchkey, but the fact that when DAW knobs are selected, the rest won't work anymore. Can't even do an arpeggiator. And switching the arp on and off, is really annoying. I am an Ableton user.
M audio sure kmows how to make a very beautiful midi keys. Talk of the code 61, oxygen pro 61,they pleasing to the eyes 😍
I think it'll be great if you could do a review of m audio code 61, oxygen pro 61 and Novation impulse 61.
I'm sure there's gonna be alot of competition going on there, it'll be helpful if you could run it.
Nice work you're doing man
Great review!
..yes its beautiful looks great, but feels cheap, so the wisdom is that if you are a real keyboard player there's no good keybed under 500$....
@@djerikfox When you learned on real piano and organ…all this jive is ticky tacky. 💯
Спасибо, бро! Нереально помог с выбором. Я уже пятнадцатый день ломаю голову) Всё перебрал, всё перерыл. Десятки инструментов и сотни предложений. В результате остались эти два кандидата. После твоего видео остановился на Novation Launchkey. Боялся, что она сильно хуже Oxigen pro, но понял, что это не так. И у неё даже много преимуществ, которые имеют для меня большое значение.
Прямо моя история )) Как ощущения от клавиш Novation? В моем финальном выборе остались Novation Launchkey 61 Mk3 и M-audio Oxygen 61 MKV, так как у него клавиши без металлических пружин, чисто пластик-фантастик. Пока еще в процессе выбора. Exactly my story)) How do you feel the Novation keys? Novation Launchkey 61 Mk3 and M-audio oxygen 61 mkV are participating in my final voting. Still in the selection process.
такая же история))) какие преимущества у novation кроме адаптации под аблик? не жалеешь что без aftertuch?)
@@TembelUser не, я вообще не понимаю как aftertuch использовать. Для меня преимущество, что менее шумная сама клавиатура и ооооч крутые пэды. Я кайфую с них прям.
This is a very surprising comparison in relation to the DAW support. The M-Audio actually provides absolutely zero support for Logic, apart from basic HUI. On the other hand, the Launchkey mk3 (even its mini version) has excellent Logic support, including using the pads to Mute/Solo/arm tracks.
The M-Audio has a good keybed, if you like a feel similar to an electric piano, and it has aftertouch. The drum pads are a bit tough, but it’s a question of getting used to them.
@@Trensharo You are absolutely right! My LK 49 Mk3 is on the way and I can't accept M-audio for Ableton even though its certified but Novation is king of Ableton. I have NI M32 which is great and compact but I hate the click button, I really do and the M audio use the same thing. I also have Mac Studio mk2 and you cannot use it as secondary device out of MPC software unless you fiddle with advance scripting which I have no interest or time for so I stored it and use Renaissance. I do use my mk3 with Maschine as VST in Ableton and I can't complain this thing is a beauty and I love it. but the important point I want to make is I don't want to reach for mk3 I want the all the controls on the keyboard that's why I chose the LK I wanted SL mk3 but its 3x times the price. I use Ableton and MPC software then FLstudio/Logic rarely so I don't see myself needing the oxygen even though it has attractive feature. Only if LK had endless encoder, Note repeat, and banks would be perfect like you said. Limited knobs are very stupid and annoying they saved for the SL mk3 which understandable and stupid, it should be prohibited and chased by federal government. The blue screen is hideous and feels like the 90s but whatever. Also remapping is big problem for most midi devices because I have to keep memorizing what this button do and shift + whatever weird combo is just a buzz kill. I just can't like the oxygen even though I haven't tried it but I hate everything about it, the layout the pads. Maybe I just hate ugly keyboards. LOL enjoy yours
So which one to get for Logic Pro. Kind of confused.
Hello, John.
I know you have mentioned it in the video but after some time now with both keyboards, which one would you use for expressive piano playing and even orchestral stuff playing?
My main concern with the Keylaunch not being at least semi weighted is that it could affect dynamics like you mentioned.
As for the M Audio my main concern is the lack of support and respect for the costumer. Having owned several of their stuff it's been a nightmare to deal with because they often abandon support and don't even reply to costumers, which is a slap in the face. Kind of what Native Instruments is doing with the A series by not allowing us to change the velocity curve so we buy the more expensive S series. I mean velocity curve changing is something keyboards from 20+ years ago already had, hence why i want to get rid of my komplete kontrol A49.
What about the faders? Which ones feel better/more premium?
I'm so thorn. I like the faders on the left to control dynamics, expression and vibrato but the fader lanes on the M Audio seem so short. I also like the mostly black pads on the M Audio with the little bit of color but the material seems better on the Keylaunch; i also prefer rubber buttons and knobs that clicky buttons. I also don't like those red buttons on the M Audio. They remind me of the red lights on power extensions, blinking like a candle.
I wish companies went all out in quality and features even on budget keyboards. Seems like is always something they take back to save some money.
Thanks alot.
Thanks. That's the place I come to when I want to know something about keybeds. Please keep doing the good job.
A big thanks, man. You just help me to decide what to buy right now. Greetings from France.
Since I'm learning multiple DAWs I really don't have a problem with my Oxygen Pro 61 if you're a heavy Logic user and the control functionality is what your looking for go with the Launchkey for sure. You can work around it but it definitely ain't for logic although now even in logic it's my main board so it just depends on you. It works perfect in GarageBand however which is weird because you know Logic is based off of GB so it doesn't make sense why it was so hard for them to make it compatible all the way with logic. Regardless im happy overall with my board hope this helps guys.
Me too! What DAW you planning on using, may I ask? And I hope all purchasing the M-Audio Oxygen Pro series are ordering the Decksaver for protecting your keys!!! 🙂 I don’t work there, want a deck cover for mine, lol, and they don’t make for Oxygen Pro series yet, they said they need more inquiries, requests before they’ll tool up!?!
@@keithholman1438 I will be sure to tag their socials and lobby for it for sure I treat it like a new born baby since my oldest girl is 4 and now my 1yr twins are mobile 😆 🤦🏾♂️ also im learning pro tools and getting familiar with MPC and ableton along with FL
My God an Allie!!!
great comparison. i've had the oxygen pro 61 since december. i love it
Me too! What DAW you planning on using, may I ask? And I hope all purchasing the M-Audio Oxygen Pro series are ordering the Decksaver for protecting your keys!!! 🙂 I don’t work there, want a deck cover for mine, lol, and they don’t make for Oxygen Pro series yet, they said they need more inquiries, requests before they’ll tool up!?!
I can only say my opinion about the oxygen pro here that I had to test it myself. Yes, the features are good and the keybed is aftertouch and semi-weighted. That feels good. But there is big problem which makes it a no go. The velocity of the black keys is a disaster. Compared to the white keys, they have less dynamics and respond too strongly. Even with a light touch, the velocity is higher than the white keys. This unequal behavior of the touch dynamics cannot be compensated with the editor either, which makes it possible to set different curves. The problem still remains. That's why you can't play dynamically with it. With Piano Vst's this is of course important. Unfortunately not a good choice. The semi-weighted keyboard doesn't help either.
Bought it last year seduced by the semi-weighted keys, after plugging it in and testing it a bit i felt really disappointed with velocity curves on black keys, if you come from a piano background (not just classical but used to play with dynamics) you will definitely feel that its not good, its just too much.. while it may have a lot of good features for daws and a nice look its not to play live piano or rhodes, although it works for a non-dependant-velocity instrument like a hammond. If i had to buy it again i would definitely choose an other option.
I know this is old, but I believe you can change the velocity curve on these. Was possible on the old Axiom from like 10 years ago, so I'd assume these latest versions can do it too.
@@JamieR just want to confirm that I picked up a used oxygen pro, and it still has this problem. It's possible to change the velocity curve, which dampens the problem but it never goes away. Ultimately, while the keybed feels good, the velocity issues were bad enough for me to return the keyboard.
@@JamieR funny enough, I still have my axiom from 10 years ago and think it's a vastly superior keyboard.
Hey John, hope youre doing well. Which one do you recommend between The m-audio oxygen pro 25 vs novation launchkey 25 mk3?
Fl studio made support for the Novation and it’s actually very well mapped.
Just bought a 49 key Oxygen Pro & its Awesome !
I just ordered it today to I do a lot of looping music on my Channel what kind of music do you make
I hope all purchasing the M-Audio Oxygen Pro series are ordering the Decksaver for protecting your keys!!!
Superb review, and breakdown.💎. I would love for you to do a best in category at each price tier. 💎. Again, great review!✨
Great review. You confirmed my Oxygen Pro 49 decision. One man's bug is another man's feature. I like the tactile, audible response of the buttons on the Oxygen, I like having pads on the right side (I'm right handed), and I use Pro Tools so the Ableton compatibility doesn't do much for me. Thanks for the clear and concise comparison.
I am feeling inclined towards the mpk cause I got ableton, however I wouldn’t mind the click noise and pads on the right. Still indecisive
Great review, thanks. Still I can't understand which is better for playing live (no daw usage). 😅
I only use MainStage, just for live like you... Have you made your choice?
Thank you for the review, really helpful
Oxygen PRO 61 or Arturia Keylab Essentials 61 mk3? Your opinion?
How would you compare new Launchkey 61 MK4 to M-Audio Oxygen Pro 61? I'm seeking a new board and now stuck on these two. What would you say are the main pros and cons/differences?
I mainly use ableton, studio one and reaper!
which key is heavier? the oxygen pro is classified as semi weighted, so it should be heavier than the launchkey right? i mean in term of heaviness toward a digital piano thing (of course not the same cos fully weighted), i have played the launchkey before, its a bit light for my touch so prefer heavier keys to do orchestral stuff
Many thanks. Solid review. TBH I'm looking to buy the M-Audio & was searching for a bit of confirmation bias, but you make an interesting point about the clicky-clacky issue. Peace!
Was interesting to hear that you judged the novation keybed as more dynamic. The sound does seem to sustain for a bit longer/in a softer way. I'll have to test that out next time I'm at a store. To be honest though, when I was trying the novation launchkey MK3 vs M-audio keystation MK3 (which I believe has the same keybed as the oxygen pro), I wrote off the novation because of the keys. They felt more springy and the pressure vs sound curve seemed imbalanced - to get the loudest sound, I had to press rather hard. On m-audio the pressure vs sound gradation seemed smoother. I'm very much a beginner though, so I'd be interested to hear others' opinion on this.
The velocity sensitivity can be adjusted on either controller, so if you have to press too hard, or vice versa, you can change the pickup from linear to logarithmic, or to hardcoded zones like 3 part 40/70/127, 2 part 64/127 or lock it to 1 value like 80 90 or 100.
The MAudio will have velocity curves and you can adjust them to suit your playing style. The pads can also be set as well for touch and response. The keys are semi weighted on the MAudio. It will be nicer to play and after all the keybed itself is what you use the most. Lack of After touch on the Launchkey is bad. It's a no brainer actually. MAudio also intergrates very well with Ableton.
In advance, congratulations for the work. in relation to the keys, what is the best option between these two controllers?
Great review, I came from using an Oxygen 61 Series 3 from like 2010, so I went ahead and went for the Oxygen Pro 61. But the Novation really looks like something I would love to use as I am an Ableton guy. But I already purchased the Oxygen, so... Guess I should have watched the video first lol.
You can return it and get the Launchkey instead 👍👍👍👍👍
Did you end up liking the pro?
It's a tough one. The novation dynamics v the oxygen pro after touch 🤔 y'all finna make me buy 2 of these.
Is this two better than arturia essential and the komplete a series ?
M Audio is better than those two
@@WycliffStudios why?
@@Jeffery99 M Audio has Aftertouch. It is a new board also. Wait for the new Arturia Essentials
@@WycliffStudios
Oke. When are the new essentials coming out?
Yes
The dynamic feel that you're talking about with the m audio, could that be adjusted with a velocity curve or is that something in the fundamentals of the design? Thanks for making these videos. Much appreciated.
Yes you can adjust it...but I had it on it’s softest setting in this video...😐
@@Johnmike how did you change it? There are no instructions available as far as I can see....
@@hvhvgitaar not in front of the board right now...but it’s in the global menu
@@Johnmike same question like him brother can we adjust its velocity equivalent or close to notation Loanchkeys. And seconds i want know more about the pads means (which one have the more sensitive pad) and last frome the video m audios build quality seems to be bit flimsy and plasticy idk but i just want to know your opinion about that and thx for this video :)
I'm one of those newb spuds, I bought the mk3 novation 88 cheap as thinking it was a synth ha ha.
Where's the power port I thought? Where's the output jack? I got it cheap as seeing as I couldn't test it (2nd hand) figured I'd just use it stand alone right? Use the usb for power and the midi for an output to my pa right? Well after a roller coaster of emotion and research later, I have one of these, now use both a daw and controller for the first time and am happy af I accidentally landed in the world of midi controllers.
Already have an arrangement in mind.
Super helpful. Thanks. As a Logic user, this really helped me decide.
which one is the better option for logic pro guy?
@@krishkvs I would go with the Oxygen. Novation seems designed more with Ableton users in mind.
I am going for the m-audio oxygen, but which one should I buy, a 49 or 61 keys version? I'll mainly use it for producing trap and hip hop on fl studio
Unless you are doing full range piano tracks(meaning you need all ranges from high to low) then you should be fine with 49
Me too! What DAW you planning on using, may I ask? And I hope all purchasing the M-Audio Oxygen Pro series are ordering the Decksaver for protecting your keys!!! 🙂 I don’t work there, want a deck cover for mine, lol, and they don’t make for Oxygen Pro series yet, they said they need more inquiries, requests before they’ll tool up!?!
@@keithholman1438 bro stop trying to sell the damn decksaver
Hi John, great review, Thanks. If it is for church worship which midi keyboard to go with?
Hard choice...but I’d probably go with the Novation
I'm a fl studio user, So really in a dilemma
Nice timing mate! I’m leaning toward the Oxygen Pro 61, but have you tried the Alesis VI61? I’ve read very good things too.
It’s cool...I wasn’t a fan of the Keybed
I have the same two keyboards that you have bro! So far, I've been working more the LaunchKey board. I plan on working with the Oxygen Pro board this week to get a better comparison of the two boards. Thanks.
What keyboard should i buy
no followup ?????? 😔😔😔
Which was better?
After thoughts?
I always look for a quiet keyboard with aftertouch... so neither of these two would work for me lol. But great, informative video!
@Scripturenest Arturia Keylab, Nektar Panorama, Akai MPK-series have aftertouch. Take a look at the Keylab first. (Panorama designed to integrate with all DAWs except the ones I use, Ableton and Logic. Nice if you use other DAWs though.)
@@qwe1231 The Panorama is the only one with weighted piano keys but it was launched in 2012 and is getting kind of old now.
@@pgtips4240 Another reason for me to not need it; in no way am I interested in weighted piano keys for synth use.
@@qwe1231 Midi controllers are not just for synth use though. If synth work is your bag then cool, but for me the weighted keys suits my piano background.
@@pgtips4240 If you're looking to play piano then you shouldn't be watching or commenting on a video about the Oxygen or LaunchKey, dude. Come on now.
I have an oxygen pro 49 but it doesn't work well with cubase. You can assign up to 8 quick controls to those knobs or faders but that's it. Also, if you try to use quick controls you have to switch the daw integration preset to user instead. Sometimes you can tweak some vst parameters with the non-assigned knobs tho
Got the 61 but Me too! What DAW you planning on using, may I ask? And I hope all purchasing the M-Audio Oxygen Pro series are ordering the Decksaver for protecting your keys!!! 🙂 I don’t work there, want a deck cover for mine, lol, and they don’t make for Oxygen Pro series yet, they said they need more inquiries, requests before they’ll tool up!?!
Did you manage to get it working? I'm having real trouble with the transport controls.
@@barker_ As soon as I connected it to my daw for the first time it worked as M-Audio intended and advertised with cubase. But I assign those faders to the cubase pro 10.5.30 quick controls instead of normal use. Instead of being able to adjust individual channel faders, that is more useful to write automation. I really struggled to assign them to quick controls. This midi keyboard messes up your midi and assigns everything to midi 1 or whatever random values when you try to do something different
Hello :) Your reviews are really great 👌🏻 Thank you.
Very useful detail in this video, but you keeping saying “this” rather than the name of the controller.
I was listening on a walk and had to keep checking the screen & rewinding to see where your hands were hovering to see what “this” meant.
Otherwise thanks… I’m more informed but further from a decision! 😂 guess they’re both decent options!
hi, I really enjoyed the way u compare them. But, do you have any suggestion between M-Audio Oxygen and Novation Impulse?!
I’d pick the oxygen over the impulse
Hasn’t Novation released a script for Logic Pro with the Mark 3. Does that work well.
Thanks for the video! Between this model and Arturia KeyLab Essential 49 mk3 what would recommend? : )
U use a usb hub to like all your midis and then to computer? If so, which do you use?
How good is the serato sampler
Great review ;) Any experience with Arturia keylab essential 49 or 61 ?
Yea I’ve got a review on this channel with that
What is better out the smaller versions. ?
Good video. Thanks for posting, John Mike.
Does the Launchkey still come still come with Serato Pitch n Time LE? It has been removed from the website.
Don’t believe so
Which keyboard has better keys?
But what exactly does Launchkey do better in Ableton than the Oxygen Pro when Pro is set up for Ableton?
I haven't seen any demo of the M-audio with Ableton, but the Launchkey for example lets you capture midi, stop/start/record, launch scenes and clips (!), control devices (VST, plugins). The novation is the best integrated with Ableton of all midi keyboards. Check out loopop's review.
@@hvhvgitaar
but i can easily do all those with my mouse.
@@Jeffery99haha yeah right 😂
Can the velocity curve on the M-Audio not be adjusted?
I haven't used ableton yet but I'm considering trying it out, is the M-Audio like a lot worse of a match for ableton than the launchkey?
Naa m-audio is still cool for Ableton…the launch key is just built with Ableton in mind…
@@Johnmike thank you! I been spending weeks tryna decide btwn the two 😂😂
I've been watching your MIDI keyboard controller reviews. As a pianist, which do you think has the better keybed between these two in this video, Alesis v25, and Nektar Impact LX25+? I think I'd be better off getting one with Midi Out so I'm focusing on the 2 in this video, but also considering other options. I need something with a mod wheel and drum pads, that also feels as much like playing a piano as possible in terms of the weight and responsively of the keys. Preferably semi-weighted, and I don't care whether the keys are stubby or full length, but they've got to be full width. I'd appreciate it if you could share your opinion as a pianist as to which would be best between these. Thanks!
If keyboard feel is highly important, the best value is Hammer 88 from M Audio. Not so much a controller like these two, but superb piano feel (I've been playing piano for 50 years)
So well described!! Appreciate ur feedback.
I have problem with black keys. They are louder than white ones. How to fix this with velocity curves? Is it even possible?
Thank you for the share, I just need this comparison information. It's veryyyy helpful.
bro can u please suggest from one of these.. Arturia keylab essential MK3 & M audio oxygen pro?
Oxygen mini user here. Good review
Hello. I am very interested in the launchkey mk3, especially because of the technology it has, since I don't just know the basics on the keyboard. I understand it is compatible with the Cubase program (via HUI), since I use that program. But will I be able to use all the functionalities or what functions could not be performed with Cubase? since I understand this is optimized for Ableton Thanks I hope you can read me
Can i use the novation with kontakt??
What do you think about the keybed of the nektar panorama t4/t6 in comparison to the oxygon pro? Couldn't find any reviews about the panoramas on the channel
Jury is still out on that...just got a T6 a few weeks ago...gonna be sharing my thoughts soon
@@Johnmike Cool! I am looking forward to see the results!
how about the keybeds vs the M-Audio Keystation 88 Pro
4:00 How about reaper? for the M-AUDIO?
Yes Reaper is one of the options in the DAW menu.
@@tomyoung8229 thank you
I went out and bought the Oxygen Pro 61. I must say that the keybed feel was significantly better.
I didn't get to try out the Novation. I'm an Ableton user but it seems the MAudio can do most if not all of the Ableton stuff. I do like the Novation layout better but the keybed was the most important one. I just couldn't agree to the hollow feel of the Novation keys.
Me too! What DAW you planning on using, may I ask? And I hope all purchasing the M-Audio Oxygen Pro series are ordering the Decksaver for protecting your keys!!! 🙂 I don’t work there, want a deck cover for mine, lol, and they don’t make for Oxygen Pro series yet, they said they need more inquiries, requests before they’ll tool up!?!
i cant get piano sound in low octave of my m audio :( its like is pre maped and i cant do anything.
Which would be best for Pro Tools?
Probably the oxygen Pro in this case
Price range aside ... versus Arturia Keylab 88 mk II?? Thanks John!
You’re talking semi-weighted vs a full weighted 88key piano style keys...it’s apples and oranges...but the keylab is one of the best feeling keybeds out there...but if given the choice...I would get the SL88 by studiologic because it’s the same keybed for half the price
thank you for the honest sensible review!
can you set up sounds to increase in volume with slides? I have the M-audio pro 61 and I want to be able to use it in worship settings along with the sliders to fade in sounds… can someone let me know.
Yes
@@Johnmikecan you teach me please I would appreciate it
@@Johnmike or could you make a video specifically about that.
I have the Oxygen Pro 49, very wonky and doest stay connected, each time I start a new pro tools session, I have to find out why I'm not connected. My AKAI MPK MINI connects withought me having to do anything.
I've seen you have quite a number of videos involving the Novation Launchkey, but could you also do a review on the Novation Impulse? It seems to be quite popular.
Pls tell me how you make that lightshow on novation 13:09
It’s like a screensaver…it goes into that mode after sitting idle
are m-audio keystation 49 mk3 keys better than launchkey 49 mk3?
Nice video! What do you think between the Arturia essential vs the M-audio oxygen?
I like the key feel of the Arturia better than the Oxygen
But as I recall the Arturia keylabs has lighter keys more like synth keys. Instead the M Audio has a little bit of weight on them.
these two or M Code 49? for 200$ just want the best keybed
(while the other black keys are very silent. Just 5 black keys made this, the last 3 from the 3rd octave and the first 2 from the 4th octave)
You know, let me tell you, I watched this video before choosing between the Novation Launchkey MK3 49 (purchased) and the M-Audio Pro 49, and it helped. I use Ableton and Acid. I also am a long-time M-Audio user (Oxygen 25 Air(?), Radium 49, and Oxygen-II 49) so I had a sense of brand loyalty. But when I took a deeper look at the Novation MK3, I really liked the way the drum pads are so multi-use, and can quickly be used for so many modes. It would've been good to bring light to this. Novation put a lot of extra and very useful function modes into the drum pad area, ie: sound and instrument library menu navigation. I also like the way the Novation's track buttons on the bottoms of the sliders light up matching the colors of the Ableton DAW's track colors. But yeah, I miss the on/off switch too.
In the end, I got a sense that M-Audio has just fell behind in terms of function and electronic modernity. The Oxygen Pro has some good things going for it, but I would expect more from a company so established in this market. When compared side by side to the Novation, the Oxygen pro still feels like the company is stuck in the old heyday Oxygen-II days. Novation offers a sleek, versatile, well-crafted, and functionally deep midi controller. But to be honest? I'll most likely get a Novation SL-MK3 49 next. Now that's a controller.
I want to use Ableton as a looper. It is so unfortunate that the record button is so far away from the pads on the LK Mk3.
count in?
@@PhiI93 Trivago!
Thanks for the video! Great stuff
Great review and comparison👍
Great video, very useful! Thanks. Subbed!
Which one would be best for FL Studio?
M-audio
Aiight dude thanks, I'm officially sold to the novation
Interesting that you prefer the novation launchkey keys more than the oxygen pro!
@@jonathanrist5858 very interesting. I learned not to follow reviews when it comes to key feel because people have different prefs
Please help me..!! Novation Launchkey MK3 or M-Audio OXYGEN IV ?
I just got the 49 version. I have 5 black keys with a “clicky” sound when pressed… anyone experienced this or does all your black keys sound the same when pressed?
Great comparision. Playing at night in bed I want to be quiet. No clickity clackity.
what pads are better john mike?
I like the Novation a bit better
I like the power switch, I have a Keystation 61es and a Launchpad X but they are plunged on the HUB at the monitor and that is always powered, I can just turn the switch on the M-Audio but I need unplung the launchpad or I will have a full color rainbow all the night at my room :,D
I just ordered the M Audio one I ordered it today cause I do a lot of looping music videos on my channel so I needed a midi controller like the M Audio oxygen
I hope all purchasing the M-Audio Oxygen Pro series are ordering the Decksaver for protecting your keys!!!
What daw do you use?
@@Jeffery99 I use Logic Pro x it’s what I teach on on my channel
@@GoldenProductions2019 oke
@@Jeffery99 are you having trouble with something that you need help with
always awesome!
PS: novation clean winner for me, i hate clicky buttons.
someday i buy mk3 like a "addon" for my CME 88 and change my horrible samson carbon (worst midi keyboard ever)
The Samson carbon 61 is the one I'm looking to replace now octave up button stop working if I press the transpose button one it renders like I pressed it more than one and my d#/eb keys work amd stops idk
Do they work with reaper, cakewalk, etc..
Should
Thanks for the good review. I am interested in a comparison between the arpeggiator, chord and scale modes between these two. Was this something you looked at? I suspect Launchkey is better. Then also compatibility with Cubase. It is a shame Launchkey does not have aftertouch - though its pads do (according to the manual). Novation SLMkIII has all of the above - but over my budget. Right now, Launchkey 61 is cheaper than Launchkey 49 where I am ! (Sorry if the comment appears twice? I'm having trouble with UA-cam).