Giving Strangers 20 Euros If We Don't Speak Their Language | Porto Portugal
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2024
- New video with @lingualizer
We did a language challenge in Porto.
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Languages
0:00 Intro
0:17 Hmong
1:30 French
2:16 Ukrainian
3:09 Tamil
3:37 Italian
4:41 Icelandic
5:07 Brazilian Portuguese
6:05 Romanian
6:39 Russian
7:00 Swiss German
7:19 Euskera
8:00 Catalan
9:05 German
10:05 Luxembourgish
11:03 French
Let me know if I made any mistakes. And I try to improve the languages. More new videos coming soon
Guys, italian regional languages (often called "dialects") are not just dialects of italian... they come from Latin as italian does. They are languages exactly as the other romance languages. Why does Catalan count as a language to you but Lombard, Venetian, Neapolitan, Sicilian and all the other languages of the italian peninsula doesen't? They are recognized by UNESCO and they have their own ISO code, as well as their own Wikipedia version etc. What's the point of this decision...?
Agree, it's just silly to make that distinction.
He is just uneducated in that matter, he thinks Neapolitan and Italian have the same relationship as Castillian spanish and Mexican spanish have.
Hear hear. Italians call everything dialetti.
Linguist here. We use "dialect" and "language" completely interchangeably in the field. If we want to talk about the differences between, say, Peninsular and Mexican Spanish, we often refer to those as "subdialects."
The notion that Neapolitan is not a "language" but a substandard "dialect" arose largely for sociopolitical reasons and is not rooted in linguistic fact.
All that to say, OP's comment is exactly right.
It's clear the girl from Italy spoke a language and not a dialect from Italian because neither of you understood her.
Besides you told her to speak Italian (not her mother tongue) because you didn't speak her language.
The regional languages spoken in Italy are not dialects of the Italian language. They come directly from Latin, and they are as different from Italian as Spanish and Portuguese are from each other.
I would expect much more from two guys who have channels about languages and geography.
I think it’s understandable they don’t know every dialect or language in the word.
@@jordandthornburg No it's not. They have forced the girl to admit that that was a dialect. But they didn't understand what she was saying so that it's a different language
@@joann.agelet4573 Yeah I agree. Its 20 euros lol. Just give the money to the girl as you dont speak or understand the words coming out of her mouth.
That girl mislead and confused him. She said it is a dialect and it comes from italian and mixed with spanish and french
If Italians stopped calling them "dialetti" things would be different. Italians, these are LANGUAGES.
Being language enthusiasts you guys should know that Hmong is in a totally different language family from both the Lao and Chinese languages.
I am sorry, but if a person hears someone speak Icelandic and believes it's Swedish, then it's hard for that person to claim to speak Swedish. I am a native Swedish speaker and a language nerd, but I don't understand spoken Icelandic at all.
His Swedish is very limited for sure. And it’s just his danish but made a bit less fløde.
Same here, Swedish language nerd, but I understood most of the Icelandic here, especially in the beginning.
But I agree, Wouter’s “Swedish” is a joke
I'm swedish to. I understood two words of what the icelandic guy said. I can get why Wouter mistook it for Swedish. For manny foreign non swedish speakers we sound like La-la-la-la-la and that can also at some points be herd in icelandic speech melody. But the only simular word in Swedish i heard was Tala. Yes Wouters swedish is terrible. He knows it's bad to. I also think Wouter guesed he was Swedish because of his looks. But its not guese where people are from by there appearance....
@@spacemaker8760agreed but it sounds similar to Swedish but with different words/pronunciations, it’s more like Norwegian and Danish without the German aspect so it had to be lol
Also,
too* heard* similar* guessed* their*
Wouter has a personality disorder. Sad that Lingualizer associates with him.
The sign itself is incorrect English, it should be “if neither of us speak your language” not “if we both don’t speak….”
The subtitles for the part where the Brazilian boy was speaking Brazilian Portuguese are very poorly translated
This is awesome that you guys finally ran into a Hmong person. Hmong is an ethnic group and we speak our own language with different dialects. Sometimes we may use words from other languages for things that we don’t have a word.
It's in its own language group so it's quite amazing
truth be told, there are a lot of misconceptions. Lots of misconceptions regarding dialect and language, he even mentioned Shaghainese dialect while Shanghainese is a regular language. It is the same language as Cantonese, where others call it a language, and Shanghainese is a dialect.....
Hmong is also the name of their language, correct?
@@Soreto23 Same for Mandarin and Hokkien
@@Black-And-WhiteWorldview8488 yes. Hmong is a language and of a ethnic group.
It’s you calling actual languages a dialect for me 😭😭😭
For people who's entire channel revolved around languages I heard some very ignorant things? It's quite well known that Italian so called "dialects" are independent languages. They derive from vulgar latin not Italian. They are as similar to Italian as Spanish or Portuguese are
That italian girl is the one who said she is talking a dialect language and she said it comes from italian
Not Wouter doing the whole "but is it a DIALECT?" thing that Lingualizer is constantly doing 😭😭, it's getting really old and starting to show the limited understanding you guys have in languages, especially Asian languages. I know Wouter wanted so bad to think this was a "dialect of Mandarin/Chinese" just so they can disqualify this woman. You literally couldn't understand her, so it's not a DiAlEcT of Mandarin!! The Hmong people are very rare and their LANGUAGE is amazing and like she said, she's part of an ETHNICITY GROUP. At least Lingualizer had some sense this time to say "I mean if it is an ethnicity group then it counts as a language..." I feel like every time an Asian person speaks something they think "sounds Chinese-ish" they want so bad so just throw the D-word at them and completely delegitimize their culture/language/existence/etc. What are they gonna do if they meet someone from Okinawa speaking Okinawan or someone from Hokkaido speaking Ainu? "Is that a dialect of Japanese? It sounds Japanese ish, even though I don't understand it, but it's a dialect so you're disqualified! Next!"
I feel the distinction language / dialect is completely arbitrary here; dialect is probably meant mostly as "not an official language from a country". Still feels very dismissive in this context.
@@valdir7426 It's more than dismissive, it's culture erasure and just plain ignorance. There's around 193-197 "recognized countries" around the world but there's something like 7,000+ languages that exist. We're not going around saying "there's only 193-197 languages and the rest are dialects" but that's what these guys (yes, Lingualizer does it on his channel too) seem to do often with languages in China or Southeast Asia. "is that a dialect of Mandarin? I've never heard of it!", they keep saying everything's a damn dialect of Mandarin cause it's all they know! When she pulled out the "I'm part of an ethnic group" card that should've been an open and shut case. Actually, the second she started speaking and he had no effing idea what she was saying was the open and shut case, if someone is saying anything and you can't understand them, THEY WIN, END. OF. STORY. But you saw how he kept stuttering and trying to find ways to not let her have that win immediately, you could see his brain going back and forth between "holy sh*t I can't understand a single thing she's saying ::smiles in amazement::" and "BUT IS IT A DIALECT? BUT IS IT A DIALECT?", he's just mad she curbstomped this challenge with a language he's never heard of and an ethnicity group he didn't even know existed.
@@dynamo116 yeah ok I agree. I mean I don't speak 29 languages and I've heard of the hmong.
i think you’re blowing the whole thing out of proportion, he’s just trying to understand what the language is because he hadn’t heard of it. you yourself said there’s 7,000 languages so speaking 29 and maybe understanding a few more doesn’t mean you’re gonna know every single one exists.
@@andrewjoseph5581 if you look at other comments you'll see people notice he does the same thing with other languages like regional languages in Italy. There's a difference between asking genuine questions about a language and constantly wondering if it's a "dialect"/"dialect of Mandarin?" and trying to undermine the legitimacy of the language. He was leaning towards the latter and he's done this multiple times (and so has the other guy in the video [Lingualizer]), enough times for people to take notice and for this to be a pattern.
The Italian girl at 04:00 spoke Occitan that is an official Language
Are you sure? doesn't sound occitan to me. I'm catalan.
@@angyliv8040 A jutjar per el que ha dit ella crec que és occitano-provençal, és a dir de la zona límitrofe entre frança i itàlia evidentment una mica influenciat per l'italià. El problema és que fins i tot la mateixa noia admet que és un dialecte i no ho és. Ells no l'han entès per tant li haurien de contar com una llengua a part (que és el que és) igual que el napoletà, sicilià o veneto. No m'esperava tanta ignorància per part d'ells dos
@@angyliv8040 yes it's occitan, she's probably from the mountains of cuneo province
All languages are dialects. I think as long as you don't understand what they're speaking (and it's not gibberish obviously) then it should count as a language. Ever heard "a language is a dialect with an army and navy"? It'd be unfair to make a distinction in your videos based on that.
So you're saying that Polish, Japanese and Tahitian are just dialects of the same language?
Not at all. I meant that we all speak a "dialect" of our languages, but nowadays in many cases the differences are minor. I'm saying there's no clear linguistic line between language and dialect. Why is Sicilian (very different from Italian) a dialect but Galician (very similar to Portuguese) a language?@@DJ7ful
Galician and Portuguese are dialects of the same language
You're right, but I have heard Argentinians claiming that they don't speak "Spanish" but their own language.. So I assume that Wouter is very strict on the distinction between languages and dialects because otherwise some people are going to try to take advantage of him.
I love languages like you, I live in America most people I encounter are monolingual, some bilingual, but very few I encounter here are multilingual. When I started to get into languages I no longer felt like an American citizen but a global citizen❤
I mean, America has hundreds to thousands of languages across its 57 countries (even if mostly English and Spanish) but yah, exactly
So sad to see you where on Porto and I barely missed you! Huge fan of you both, keep it going!
His portuguese looks like a word by word english translation, if thats the case for the other languages, I wonder if these guys can actually speak that many languages they claim to speak or any at all.
I'm French and it's pretty bad too. Remember at the beginning when he asks the other guy to speak French: it is because he doesn't know French (but the other guy is pretty good at it) He spits random sentences he learned by heart like "how are you today, what are you doing, etc..." and when he goes into complex sentences he completely misses grammar and it doesn't work at all. Anyone could "learn" 10 languages this way with enough dedication.
Yeah, he actually speaks 3-4 languages truly,which is impressive. But others are just memorizing phrases.
Yep his italian is poor as well
Ukranian is also bad. I'm Serbian, but I speak Serbian, Czech and Russian , and I understand 100% of Ukranian. His Ukranian was more Russian, with few Ukranian words. I didn't want to watch further. I also speak English and Italian for the record. Also ppl caming that they speak 20+ langs or so it is bullshit. It is scientifically proved that you can be fluent for max of 15 langs. Everything above it nonsense. You can speak of course, but to be fully fluent and don't mix them is not possible. There are ppl in history who spoke 200 langs or so. But that is crazy. Ok maybe as I said partially.
It feels more like a pidgin. He's pretty much just winging it with what he knows of related languages. You can understand it, but it isn't really structured like Portuguese. But to be fair, this is pretty much the case for just about every single one of these super polyglots who say they speak a bajillion languages.
Yessss! Another collaboration with Lingualizer!
Everytime waiting for Euskera! This time I got it, i love to lear about rare languages. Great video!
The basque is always a win-win choice 😉
because it's pronounced like spanish with an accent. If it was neutral and slower, they could guess.
So is swedish. I'm swedish and i understood like two words the icelandic guy said. Wouter guese were not eaven close to Swedish.
@@Ethan-qo9rx She wasn't a native basque speaker. Anyway, it is the spanish language that sounds like basque, not the other way round. As any linguist will tell you the main basque influence on spanish is the vowel system, that makes it the only romance language to have five simple vowels (without closed/open, nasal, long/short vowels).
Es la primero que escucho el euskera, por fin!! Que orgullo❤️❤️
I am always laughing out loud, when this dutch guy pops up in my UA-cam as a "Polyglot". He speaks three words in 10 languages and two sentences in 20 more languages, but is not able to reply on anything but calls himself "Polyglot". There are real Polyglots on UA-cam that really speak 10 to 15 languages. This Wouder is as much a Polyglot as I am Cristiano Ronaldo.
He literally says all the time he doesn't speak all the languages well.
7:25 Since they didn't translate the basque, I'll write it here for anyone wondering:
"Right now I work... well, right now I'm not doing anything, but I l have studied cooking and gastronomy, and I'm already graduated. And my sister (she is my sister) does biomedical sciences. She works in Barcelona. And that's it..."
the way u bring joy to people for speaking their languages
What you call Italian dialects are actually languages.
Having said that, your Catalan is better than I thought it was based on my comparison of other videos. I could give you some tips (for Central Catalan, which is the standard one and my dialect):
- I'm happy is "estic content" not "contento" (the "o" sounds like a "u" when it isn't stressed, which is the case, and the "t" is silent)
- Instead ot "pots estudiar" which is the indicative mode, we would use "puguis estudiar" which is the subjunctive mode.
- You said, "jo tens un amigo": "tens" means "you have", "I have" would be "jo tinc", and "friend" in Catalan is "amic" just like in Romanian by the way (I don't speak Romanian but someone told me that). Remember that the letter "a" and the letter "e" sound like the swa /ə/ when those aren't stressed, which is the case. Oh! And the Catalan hesitating sound is the swa as well, we call it the "neutra".
- "Millor" has a silent "r", it sounds like this: "milló"
- You said "estic holandès", we have "ser" or "estar" we use the verb "ser" to say where we are from and "estar" to say where we are at (though you could use the verb "ser" too🤔):
"Sóc holandès" (I am dutch) and "Estic a Porto" or "Sóc a Porto" to say I'm in Porto.
- We wouldn't say "és molt bé" we would say " és molt millor".
- We would say "ara no tinc molt DE temps" or "ara no tinc massa temps", "massa" in this case means "enough".
And that would be it, I didn't catch the last sentence. So well, here you have your mistakes, other than that I would say you spoke a pretty decent Catalan, I hope you keep practicing it.
Best regards from Barcelona!
I didn't realize that Luxemburgish wasn't a dialect of German😊
It is a dialect of German, a sub-dialect of moselle-franconian to be precise, but with an own written language
Dat stemmt wersch , su steht et och op Wikipedia
When Luxembourgish gets 20 euros, but not Swiss German...
make the difference between a dialect and a language. because if you consider catalonian as a language, you have to consider swiss german as a language. a spaniard doesn't fully understand catalan while catalan understands spanish. just like swiss german understands german but a german won't understand much german.
Okay, now I’m officially done with Lingualizer. He himself has an Austrian accent but he thought Luxembourgish is an Austrian dialect??
Lingualizer is always coming across as incredibly ignorant about languages and other cultures in his videos, if not very arrogant that he’s right when he’s just wrong about things; I’m not surprised
When you ask "is it a dialect?", everyone will say yes... We all speak a dialect of a particular language... The French dialect of French, the Argentinian dialect of Spanish, the Swiss dialect of German, etc. (I'm obviously shortening, as there are many different dialects inside France, Argentina, etc.)
5:45 he said he finished his studies and he is trying to find a job now
You've surprised me with the catalan! Well done!
Hey I was in Amsterdam on Friday and BUMPED INTO WOUTER in a club!!! i literally turned around and he was there, so I was starstruck and told him he's a celebrity
love these! you need to learn Latvian sometime
Half Latvian here! You??
im 100|% latvian@@MarkusBlue
I love your videos 😂😊👍
I was surprised too that luxembourgish is a thing; in the tiny country of luxembourg it's basically a social marker for people born here for like the upper class; when most people in this country comes from neighbour countries to work or from Portugal.
Its written in our costitution that our dialects are not only dialect but are official language of italy
Yeah your right. The dutch dont know that.
That italian girl is the one who mislead and confused him by saying she is talking a dialect language. She said it comes from italian and it is mixed with spanish and french. If that language comes straight from latin then she must not say it is a dialect
i like how he collabed with lingualizer just for him to hold the sign and occasionally speak
You need a mic for each person :)
❤❤❤🎉may traveling and languages bring inner peace to every single person on this planet, make them understand that what unites us all is stronger than the differences between us...and eventually make this world a better place...❤ someday in the future hopefully...
How is Occitan/Piedmontese (not sure which one it was) not considered a language but a dialect??
Occitan should be technically a language
Guys you owe the Italian girl 20€
Bem vindo a Portugal, amigo! Espero encontrar-te por aí. Abraço e saboreia a nossa comida! ahah
FRANCESINHAAAAAAAAA xD
@@luis7362 saaaaaabes! XD (mas há muito mais!)
Hey there! Hope you have eaten a nice francesinha and some Guedes sandwich!!!
Great video! Next time go to Poland
I wish I knew you were there! I know a language you probably don't!!
Açoriano?
@@psycho_chicken_9589 eu sei um pouco de kriolo 😁
It seems like no one outside of California and Asia knows what Hmong is. By the way, does anyone know what dialect that Italian girl was speaking? I wanna guess Genoese.
This guy calling himself polyglot but barely speak A1 in most of languages
i bet 20 euros that he speaks a lot more languages than you!
I feel like you are too hard on the dialects if you get lost in the conversation and don't know what is said then it's a different language if you can continue a conversation with them then it's fair to say it's a dialect but the way I see the challenge is if I can't communicate with you you get 20 euros
Che sensazionale amo parlare questa lingua meravigliosa é sensazionale italiano.
Wouter, I have watched your videos for a long time and have enjoyed your content and friendly personality. However it really rubbed me the wrong way the way you spoke to the Italian woman. She clearly was speaking a unique language, which she even explained was from a mixture of different other languages, not just Italian, and you talked down to her and demeaned her language and culture and made her speak to you in a language you understand. She deserves the 20€ and an apology.
That italian girl is the one who mislead and confused him by saying she is talking a dilect language. Wouter wants people who can talk languages and not dialect languages because people mixed up language trying to cheat him
you were in my city???
"If we both don't speak your language", doesn't that mean that both of them had to know all the languages in the video?
Not it means that one of them can speak the language
@@Flattithefish I thought it would be " if any of us..."
@@meateaterscringe9863 You’re right, it should. But I think those two people don’t understand the nuances and phrasing of words in English.
damn bro you came to my city
At last you found a place to wear a teeshirt year round. You should at least winter there. Until it is warm again in Amsterdam.
In Porto it's cold right now
Porto is not exactly the best place to just wear a t-shirt in winter time, not as cold as Amsterdam, but still !
He would fare better down south, in Algarve or in Madeira.
10:19 Lëtzebuergesch c'est un *dialecte* francique-mosellan
Eç’ côp-ci el profitan pô gagni vin euros
COME TO LISBON PLSSSSS
1- Your Portuguese is SO bad
2- Italian "dialects" are not dialects, but languages
3- Icelandic and Swedish are pretty different from each other
I'm Swedish. I understood just two words of what the icelandic guy said. So yeah! Wouter were not eaven close.
There are lots of polyglots all over the world, they can speak Romanian and they can speak Russian but they can't speak Moldovan,Very interesting..! Just like Luxembourg, you can speak French and German but not Luxembourgish
I can help u a bit in portuguese and in the translation cuz what he said about the studies it isnt what he said, and when u asked if he is studying or working. If im not wrong u said "Tu estudio ou trabalhas aqui?" he answered i studied and just finished my studies and now im trying to find a job.
Porto my city❤️
empresta-me as chaves da cidade!
I would simply ask them to speak the local language, Portuguese.. from portugal
you guys did the Swiss German dirty.
Adjusting the mic lol
Welcome to the best city in the best country in the world 😁
How the heck do you call yourself a linguist and not know that Hmong is a separate language and ethnic identity?
dai ragazzi i dialetti italiani non contano povero🤣 già fa fatica a parlare italiano
The fact that you denied the Italian girl because her language is a "dialect" shows that your knowledge on linguistics is a pity. If you want to record videos about languages, you should study at least the basics on the science of language before committing such atrocities. It's not enough to memorize a couple of phrases to brag. What a shame, Wouter!
A lot of this is suss tbh
Ewe, dholuo, Nahuatl, sindarin, quenya, Dothraki, Klingon, Irish, quechua, Aymara, Hmong, Tibetan, uigher, Mongolian, Inuktitut, Berber, guarani, Cherokee, Navajo, Xhosa, Zulu, luganda, luyha, kikuyu, Maasai, Khoisan, Liki, Luxembourgish, Flemish, Wolof, guarani, Esperanto, Sarcee, kawishana, Ojibwa, Dakota, Choctaw, Osage, Seneca, Blackfoot, Zhuang, Khmer, bai, Latin, Cornish, Hawaiian, welsh, Māori, jedek, Dumi, basque, Sanskrit, Maltese, occitane, leonese, breton, Yiddish
Easy task for Luxembourgish people
10:10 wtf how can you as a German-native think this is Austrian when it is clearly Luxemburgish lmao
Bro speaks 29 languages but is only fluent in 5 of them 😂
no he's only fluent in Dutch
If you don't speak Serbian, you owe me 20 euros :)
I didn't know you came here
The background so bad, i really want to see people reaction if you answer in another language
😁😁
Ach, an bhfuil GAEILGE agaibh?? 🇮🇪🗣️
Portugaaaal
Great! You're in Portugal but didn't come to Brazil, TRAIDOR!
No brazil é mais dificil encontrar pessoas de difrentes nacionalidades
discordo, na minha cidade Jericoacoara tem gente de mais de 15 países
@@franklinguas em qualquer cidade europeia isso nao é nada
@@tiagoflsantos86 discordo
Maybe you can make the Americans understand that it is not NORMAL that you speak one language only. Bedankt en groeten uit Vlaanderen.
Dat moet je tegen de Walen zeggen!
Sad state of Portugal. Everyone except portuguese people.
portuguese were working not turisting around there 😂
@@cilenee lmao
Why tf are these videos all made by people who are extremely awkward to watch? Like does Wouter not even realize that his shirt is too small and that his posture is terrible??
Most smart people are nerds and socially awkward
You still owe me 100 burgers and now 20€ because you neither speak farsi (persian) nor
Armenian...😉
Se namasce, scammen, avit capit? I dialetti sono lingue non riconosciute
You forgot to take out the girls name in the last segment