27:37 - "When we are in God's will - when we are obeying His Word - we are in the best place we can possibly be." Such a well thought out answer. Bob's the best! Thanks for the conversation! 👊
Excellent and most helpful interview! Thank you brothers! Biblical theology applies to every aspect of God‘s plan with life, in and out of the church. This is ever so refreshing! ♥️ 🙏
Thank you so very much for discussing this. I am a worship minister and have been feeling that my firm stance on this is much different than my peers among our local network of churches. This was very encouraging to me. God Bless!
Thank you sovereign grace.. please continue making a lot biblical discussion about worship matters, we need 'em. Very helpful to us. God bless you, praying for you.
In all fairness, I would not have become a Christian if it had not been for the music. I became a Christian BECAUSE of being part of the music team. It changed my playing, it changed my perspective on music, it finally started to make sense. But in all fairness, my pastor saw that my salvation would become through meeting God through music.
Very informative indeed .thanks brethren .we struggling to understand how to deal with good non believer musicians that add excellence to our music .very informative indeed .love it .the norm in our churches is how can we sing the lord song in a strange land .thank you again .
There's also the issue of unbelievers in a music team singing lyrics that they have no intention of living out because they don't believe the words are true
@7:00 what is your thought on using events such as Father's Day, Mother's Day, Easter, Christmas, Valentines Day, All Saints Day etc as a means for Evangelism for the Church to invite folks? Should evangelism be the main focus of the Church during the Service and accommodate visitors or should the service be focus on Worshipping God and reflecting on His glory on those events - accommodating only its members?
That's a great question. Cultural holidays can influence what we might mention in a particular meeting, but the reason we gather doesn't change - to build up the church in the word and gospel of Jesus Christ by the power of the Spirit for the glory of God. I wouldn't say we are "accommodating" members as being faithful to what God has called us to do as shepherds of his flock (1 Pet. 5:2-5).
This is though how it is allowed in musicians and singers staet to view it as a gig rather then what its supposed to be the temple, worship and a place of change or at least clarity then the outside world
What if they believe 100% of the pastor's sermon or every time, without fail? Or 99%? 50%? Does anyone only allow the 62% believer (which would be a 38% "unbeliever") to attend only 62% of the time? Can't the musician OR ANYONE also increase in faith, and isn't their presence and contribution good enough for "allowance" to exist in that space AND to give of their time and talent?
If a Church believes it is ok to have unbelievers front and center on their music team for the church members as well as the visitors then that Church has just crossed the line and is a business attempting to do what is best for the bottom line. Any church leader that can not find talent among God's people may not be spending enough one on one time with God and with their own church family. Turn the question around. Is it ok for me to be playing on stage at an adult night club while teaching Sunday School? Paul wrote a lot of letters in an attempt to straighten this kind of thinking out.
27:37 - "When we are in God's will - when we are obeying His Word - we are in the best place we can possibly be."
Such a well thought out answer. Bob's the best! Thanks for the conversation! 👊
Excellent and most helpful interview! Thank you brothers! Biblical theology applies to every aspect of God‘s plan with life, in and out of the church. This is ever so refreshing! ♥️ 🙏
Thank you so very much for discussing this. I am a worship minister and have been feeling that my firm stance on this is much different than my peers among our local network of churches. This was very encouraging to me. God Bless!
So helpful. An already held conviction has been fleshed out and given more biblical clarity.
Well stated.
Great message
Thank you sovereign grace.. please continue making a lot biblical discussion about worship matters, we need 'em. Very helpful to us. God bless you, praying for you.
In all fairness, I would not have become a Christian if it had not been for the music. I became a Christian BECAUSE of being part of the music team. It changed my playing, it changed my perspective on music, it finally started to make sense. But in all fairness, my pastor saw that my salvation would become through meeting God through music.
Questions that seem so 'murky' become clear when a person or persons just focus on what scripture says.
Very informative indeed .thanks brethren .we struggling to understand how to deal with good non believer musicians that add excellence to our music .very informative indeed .love it .the norm in our churches is how can we sing the lord song in a strange land .thank you again .
thank you so much for this video....God blesa you more..
Praise God for you all😊🙏
There's also the issue of unbelievers in a music team singing lyrics that they have no intention of living out because they don't believe the words are true
Yes!!!
@7:00 what is your thought on using events such as Father's Day, Mother's Day, Easter, Christmas, Valentines Day, All Saints Day etc as a means for Evangelism for the Church to invite folks? Should evangelism be the main focus of the Church during the Service and accommodate visitors or should the service be focus on Worshipping God and reflecting on His glory on those events - accommodating only its members?
That's a great question. Cultural holidays can influence what we might mention in a particular meeting, but the reason we gather doesn't change - to build up the church in the word and gospel of Jesus Christ by the power of the Spirit for the glory of God. I wouldn't say we are "accommodating" members as being faithful to what God has called us to do as shepherds of his flock (1 Pet. 5:2-5).
This is though how it is allowed in musicians and singers staet to view it as a gig rather then what its supposed to be the temple, worship and a place of change or at least clarity then the outside world
Should that question be asked?
Absolutely No
Aleluia!
To me, it's a clear position of leadership (being a frontline role during the service) - so no
Why not have "non-believers" as Sunday School teachers, Deacons, etc.?
What if they believe 100% of the pastor's sermon or every time, without fail? Or 99%? 50%? Does anyone only allow the 62% believer (which would be a 38% "unbeliever") to attend only 62% of the time? Can't the musician OR ANYONE also increase in faith, and isn't their presence and contribution good enough for "allowance" to exist in that space AND to give of their time and talent?
You wouldn't have an unbeliever teach the Word, so why would you have them to help lead the worship?
I think unbelievers should not because they would be profane worship
If a Church believes it is ok to have unbelievers front and center on their music team for the church members as well as the visitors then that Church has just crossed the line and is a business attempting to do what is best for the bottom line.
Any church leader that can not find talent among God's people may not be spending enough one on one time with God and with their own church family.
Turn the question around. Is it ok for me to be playing on stage at an adult night club while teaching Sunday School?
Paul wrote a lot of letters in an attempt to straighten this kind of thinking out.
Yes! We are inclined to pursue "professionalism" - Not just on our worship teams, but, God forbid! In our pulpits!
What about church kids playing before baptism?
Can you fill out the context of your question a little bit more?
The church is for the elect. I disagree with this as we should not allow wolves to be in charge of worship.
Did you listen to what their answer is?
What a stupid question.
Huh