@@kharkaroto9486 yeah your bot lane stays and pushes in another wave to the tower 1 minute before drag spawns then dies and you get blamed for not getting drag when your mid lane had 0 prio and backed as drag spawned. then its "their jg ganks and is getting objs. he's running circles around you". meanwhile it's all typed from the grave
The guy has a good demeanor to emulate in our ranked games. Practicing the ability to keep a cool, calm, collected mind isn't something that comes easily to most people.
Yeah normally I'm like "this dude would get smashed in bronze/silver on EUW I cannot believe he is gold/plat on NA" but this guy will be master pretty soon I think. He did so many things right even before Neace leveled him up in macro decisions. You can sense the work ethic and attention to details.
One thing to note about Zac's clear is that his clear is insanely difficult to execute optimally. Most zacs who have not grinded the hell out of it will have extremely subpar clear speeds which is shown in this game where even a diamond zac was still getting ~3:28 full clears with a leash. There is a challenger EUW Zac who has gotten a 3:05 full clear starting blue with no leash and 2 smites: ua-cam.com/video/yb_sIVYnplM/v-deo.html The difficulty in the clear comes from double camping almost camp, similar to fiddlesticks, but while also knowing when to pick up blobs to get the heal and reduced W cd. Sometimes in the clear posted, you will see the Zac not pick up blobs since picking them up won't make him faster since he'd be going in the wrong direction. The red-raptors section is especially difficult since he does a fiddlesticks-esque double camp while picking up blobs, managing monster aggro (since moving to get blobs puts him outside of the double camp patience range for a short period of time), and making sure he doesn't just die from the camps.
I wouldn't say Neace is unhappy in his low elo coachings. He just wants the best for his students and wants them to get the most out of their session so he gets very animated and vocal.
Amazing coaching this game. And the student made it looked very good because he was a rank high enough to easily understand and adapt to your coaching. This was nearly a perfect video. I learned so much about kayn jg or just jg in general from this.
Man I never have anything bad to say about your videos, but I can say I would’ve really loved to hear what you had to say in post. This was BEEEEEEEAAAAAAUTIFUL gameplay man. Super impressive!
I enjoy watching these... Note i really had hard time watching these kind in the beginning due to the negative mentality even if it had merit, however i see a change now in the teaching which is really good. Well done.
I'm watching this video like some kind of fraudulent "expert" on kayne bc I watched both versions of the Neace gets coached by that kayne main guy. Like, oh yeah he did the double attack wall thing on red buff starting clear, that's super hard this guy is good. Oh yeah, he did the double camp blue and gromp stack double attack out of the wall thing, this guy is good. Oh yeah, he did the get red kayne pro strats out of base near turrets like only true kayne mains do, this guy is good. The lessons just live in my brain and I'm watching with intent and understanding even tho im not capable yet of doing any of this. I appreciate all these videos and coachings
i main rumble, the only 2 champs i really struggle with are sett and olaf, they are really really hard to space out. even into darius or voli i feel like rumble comes out ahead if you abuse the lack of aggro from minions when you use q. good spacing to bait the engages then you get a easy 100-250 dmg with no minion aggro
Dont think many people know this, so the team that has first pick will always have red side bot lane start so dragon side I think thus is really useful for some match ups
at 24:30 why would you not get rid of vision, im new to this game, so it may be obvious, but i dont understand why you would want the enemy team to see everyones health including barons health, for maybe a potential steal
they have a control ward in the baron pit that blocks the vision of the enemy wards. So they have no sight of the healths. If they kill that ward then the enemy can see that the ward was killed meaning their team is there at the baron.
the control ward that blue side has down prevents red side's ward from seeing anything. if blue side hits the ward, it gives red side vision of the baron pit and lets them know what's going on.
You will reveal your position if you hit the ward , Control wards block all vision , including the ones from enemy wards . Also , you waste valuable time by removing it specially at baron . sometimes you have to remove wards and sometimes you don't have to .
jungle main myself just with lilia and trying to find a secondary that feels good but im so close on getting her solo clear to 3:15 ive gotten it to 3:22 shaving off those last couple of seconds is so hard also some people have given me such bad leashes before they actually lost me time than my solo clears lol
Check out Phylaris, he has a video from a month ago where he hits 3:08. Im sure theres a few tricks you could steal from there that will get you down a few seconds.
@@JustinTheDev i think u just made me cry because now it time to go practice the clear again for like 3 hours after work :,( thanks missed the update on the clear
Just watched it not quite in that elo bracket but ill practice just to have it in my back pocket to invade jungle the enemy for shits and gigles in some norms to see how it feels then take it to ranked if I think I wont int with it but thank you again
I'm also a lillia main and I've gotten 3:15 full clears in practice tool with 2 smites. I'd recommend watching this clear from Phylaris from last season: ua-cam.com/video/HDVKTm-Qrn4/v-deo.html. It's substantially easier to execute than the more recent one he's released and it works pretty much the same. Here's the main things I'd note from the clear: Don't use smite on krugs bc u want to save it for the blue-gromp double camp. Make sure you kill raptors in only Q -> W -> Q. The easiest way I found to get a good W off on all of the raptors is to Q all of them to start, and then walk behind them so that they all clump up and then W. I couldn't get the way he did it in the video to work for me personally since they wouldn't clump up. The wolves -> blue transition with dragging the last big wolf to blue before killing it with a double camp Q that Phylaris does in his video is relatively simple to execute after you practice it. Then practice the blue-gromp double camp and make sure you get the Q and W sweetspot on both camps every time. If you're struggling with the spacing for the blue-gromp double camp, I'd recommend testing it out with fiddlestick's clear to get a feel for how big the region for double camping is.
@@Makorr1 Seems like the hardest part is the Krugs Red double camp. But tbh if you just clear Krugs normal you'll probably hit 3:15 instead of 3:08 and it'll be less risky.
This was nice. Now I know more about the mind of the Kayn players, I can now expect some nonsense at krugs should I be in this zac's or rumble's position.
Its crazy how u can have the guidance of a challenger coach and still have people that dont even play ur role, dont even play ur champ, think they know better what to do than Neace :)
I'm finally starting to not play locked and it has helped me out so much. I miss so much info each game still but it's getting better. And I must admit I do lock back up quite a bit because I get lost in the sauce and my tethering is so ass w/out lock because im used to keeping players a certain distance away from the middle of my screen and not my champ. Small brain hard to keep track of my guy when my screen doesn't! lol
@@BeHappyTo personally i cant reach them without losing where my hand is at. but im bronze and use my pinky on q and index on r at all times so i jus click the minimap which is not efficient
@@opala6188 He's trying to make a bad joke because Neace is being nice and more calm in this coaching compared to his other videos where he coaches low elo clients. Which shouldn't be surprising or confusing to anyone because of course he is going to be less agitated and won't have to raise his voice 99% of the time when coaching someone who is diamond+. From the videos I've seen diamond+ all come into the coaching with a student's mindset, that is they come to learn and absorb information and not get defensive over their opinions and aggressively argue with no constructive goal to the argument.
The conception of ego in gaming is weird because in traditional sports it's always been thought that you have to believe and work like you're the best just to make it on the bench, like shooting for the moon, but in gaming it's like expected you be extremely humble.
ego and self confidence isnt same thing. No one expects you to be humble just stop shitting on your teammates every single second and instead play the game
@@BeHappyTo fair but that's like saying being rich and being wealthy aren't the same thing, to a poor person it is. You're talking about a semantic difference.
I was expecting a good game but it is a solo game this one. No regard for the minimap, for where his support is, for what items people have, for who is ahead, for where to go. It is just Niece telling him but doesn't pick up his small mistakes. Is just Kayn gameplay and that's it.
thank u for using my songs :D it is super cool to see someone using them ! keep up the good work!
It’s a certified banger.
WAIT YOU DID A SONG W GEOXOR YOURE AMAZING
@@NEACE ❤️🙏
@@mako2star ❤️🙏
Dope song my dude
UA-cam blows sometimes but hey we're back with another banger coaching. I promise this one was worth the wait.
New person here, why does YT blow now?
@@willek1335 he had to re upload I think, first time had low video quality or something
careful they might demonitize you for your criticism lol
@@HelloImMatt ok, thx Matt.
@@willek1335 You're welcome, Wille =D
I just wanna say congrats to this guy! He started out G4 and climbed to D3 all the way from Plat 4 last season.
He's now Master 1 159LP 50%wr but on a nice little 6 winstreak
God it feels good to watch someone carry after being flamed all game. UHN.
Yeah but his laners probably still wouldnt admit that he made the right decisions :/
@@thestalker3190 yeah like it was a surprising thing in League
Oh if you play jungle that happens every other game, or more some days.
Happens too often. Omg you didn't gank my lane sueufndksjdjsksnfjndmdkdkdm. Bro if I gank your lane we instantly lose the game.
@@kharkaroto9486 yeah your bot lane stays and pushes in another wave to the tower 1 minute before drag spawns then dies and you get blamed for not getting drag when your mid lane had 0 prio and backed as drag spawned. then its "their jg ganks and is getting objs. he's running circles around you". meanwhile it's all typed from the grave
The guy has a good demeanor to emulate in our ranked games. Practicing the ability to keep a cool, calm, collected mind isn't something that comes easily to most people.
this is one of the best coachings ive seen in a long time this dude is definitely going places
Yeah normally I'm like "this dude would get smashed in bronze/silver on EUW I cannot believe he is gold/plat on NA" but this guy will be master pretty soon I think. He did so many things right even before Neace leveled him up in macro decisions. You can sense the work ethic and attention to details.
@@ivannasha5556 the euw lol 😆
@@ivannasha5556 eu Plat is na iron gtfo
@@Fishbro challenger na is iron euw lmao
@@ivannasha5556 is euw the best server?
One thing to note about Zac's clear is that his clear is insanely difficult to execute optimally. Most zacs who have not grinded the hell out of it will have extremely subpar clear speeds which is shown in this game where even a diamond zac was still getting ~3:28 full clears with a leash. There is a challenger EUW Zac who has gotten a 3:05 full clear starting blue with no leash and 2 smites: ua-cam.com/video/yb_sIVYnplM/v-deo.html The difficulty in the clear comes from double camping almost camp, similar to fiddlesticks, but while also knowing when to pick up blobs to get the heal and reduced W cd. Sometimes in the clear posted, you will see the Zac not pick up blobs since picking them up won't make him faster since he'd be going in the wrong direction. The red-raptors section is especially difficult since he does a fiddlesticks-esque double camp while picking up blobs, managing monster aggro (since moving to get blobs puts him outside of the double camp patience range for a short period of time), and making sure he doesn't just die from the camps.
Ye ive watched karasmai play zac once and even him only did a 3:16 even tho kayn is similar with perfect double camp and zac is his 2nd pick
@@samuelallard141 kayn has much easier clear
Wow it's so good to see an Impressed/happy Neace in the intro for a change ^^
I wouldn't say Neace is unhappy in his low elo coachings. He just wants the best for his students and wants them to get the most out of their session so he gets very animated and vocal.
@@YuYuYuna_ i agree with that but the impressed part of the / is not easily seen. I agree that he doesn't seem unhappy teaching them
Amazing coaching this game. And the student made it looked very good because he was a rank high enough to easily understand and adapt to your coaching. This was nearly a perfect video. I learned so much about kayn jg or just jg in general from this.
2:38 fun tip, if you right click a ward, it has a buff and it says who dropped it
Someone needs to tell this guy that kayn R lasts longer than most grievous wounds. He can just sit in his R for a while to get full heal.
I thought the same; but he did a very good job overall, so he's forgiven
3:20 music matches up really well with music. appreciated that. I'm just going to imagine the editor rocked that.
Always nice seeing Neace and meaningful high elo advice
According to Neace, how many times do you need to ping Baron to make sure your teammates understands the call?
19 times!
and an ff vote
Ok lol, I was extremely confused when I was trying to watch this earlier😂
Just started playing kayn for durability patch. This and the karasmai coaching have helped out tremendously
*Guy makes one misplay*
NEACE: Write that down, write that down! ✍️
🤣
One Summoner said Bronze jgl once, and me, who actually is a bronze jungle, would be happy if I played like this
Now that was clean, nice coaching as always !
Keep it up , stay awesome!
The XD in all chat nearly killed me
so refreshing to watch you work with a good player who listens to you for once :)
Felt like a really flawless Kayn performance, Karasmai would be proud
I thought it kinda sounded like karasmai
Listened to absolutely everything. Good job bud!
neace in every video: assist baron 19 times XD
Man I never have anything bad to say about your videos, but I can say I would’ve really loved to hear what you had to say in post. This was BEEEEEEEAAAAAAUTIFUL gameplay man. Super impressive!
I enjoy watching these... Note i really had hard time watching these kind in the beginning due to the negative mentality even if it had merit, however i see a change now in the teaching which is really good. Well done.
the "now with sound and hd" sticker on the thumbnail is super poggers lmfao love it bro
UA-cam coming after my paycheck these days - Editor Mo Nipple
high elo jungler coaching is what i love the most in this channel
at 5:10 or so, should zac have saved f and popped passive?
Probably, I was thinking the same thing
I think so. I don't feel like Kayne ever dives to finish him off, and if he does then Rumble is coming back from base to trade out
I'm watching this video like some kind of fraudulent "expert" on kayne bc I watched both versions of the Neace gets coached by that kayne main guy.
Like, oh yeah he did the double attack wall thing on red buff starting clear, that's super hard this guy is good.
Oh yeah, he did the double camp blue and gromp stack double attack out of the wall thing, this guy is good.
Oh yeah, he did the get red kayne pro strats out of base near turrets like only true kayne mains do, this guy is good.
The lessons just live in my brain and I'm watching with intent and understanding even tho im not capable yet of doing any of this. I appreciate all these videos and coachings
ikr, fun watch!
had to restart the into on this one haha too funny
"industry standard sh*tter adc moment" classic
Does anybody know the song in the background from 19:44 to 21:40?
21:50 ''i would even surrender vote'' 🤣🤣
with this flamer team they'd probably end up surrendering for real lmao
@@guillermolopez2673 lol true. the vote was already on the verge of passing before that moment, you can tell the client was skeptical there.
i main rumble, the only 2 champs i really struggle with are sett and olaf, they are really really hard to space out.
even into darius or voli i feel like rumble comes out ahead if you abuse the lack of aggro from minions when you use q. good spacing to bait the engages then you get a easy 100-250 dmg with no minion aggro
sett situp emote go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Dont think many people know this, so the team that has first pick will always have red side bot lane start so dragon side I think thus is really useful for some match ups
I don’t understand how with the fast forwarding the audio stayed synchronized. Does anyone know how that works in his videos?
I thought I got the exclusive 360p unlisted Neace coaching vid :(
usually I stop watching these videos in the first 5 min but this was really clean and nice to watch
at 24:30 why would you not get rid of vision, im new to this game, so it may be obvious, but i dont understand why you would want the enemy team to see everyones health including barons health, for maybe a potential steal
they have a control ward in the baron pit that blocks the vision of the enemy wards. So they have no sight of the healths. If they kill that ward then the enemy can see that the ward was killed meaning their team is there at the baron.
It disabled by the control ward. If you hit a disabled ward it will give vision again for a short period of time
@@thed0ughboy appreciate it! lots to learn in this game, and I forgot that pinks blocks enemy wards vision lol, thanks
the control ward that blue side has down prevents red side's ward from seeing anything. if blue side hits the ward, it gives red side vision of the baron pit and lets them know what's going on.
You will reveal your position if you hit the ward , Control wards block all vision , including the ones from enemy wards .
Also , you waste valuable time by removing it specially at baron . sometimes you have to remove wards and sometimes you don't have to .
God damn! What a game from the Kayn!
Noice . Went to stream to let him know . And him flaming a old Karen why his live stream is on her feed was freaking funny
jungle main myself just with lilia and trying to find a secondary that feels good but im so close on getting her solo clear to 3:15 ive gotten it to 3:22 shaving off those last couple of seconds is so hard also some people have given me such bad leashes before they actually lost me time than my solo clears lol
Check out Phylaris, he has a video from a month ago where he hits 3:08. Im sure theres a few tricks you could steal from there that will get you down a few seconds.
@@JustinTheDev i think u just made me cry because now it time to go practice the clear again for like 3 hours after work :,( thanks missed the update on the clear
Just watched it not quite in that elo bracket but ill practice just to have it in my back pocket to invade jungle the enemy for shits and gigles in some norms to see how it feels then take it to ranked if I think I wont int with it but thank you again
I'm also a lillia main and I've gotten 3:15 full clears in practice tool with 2 smites. I'd recommend watching this clear from Phylaris from last season: ua-cam.com/video/HDVKTm-Qrn4/v-deo.html. It's substantially easier to execute than the more recent one he's released and it works pretty much the same. Here's the main things I'd note from the clear: Don't use smite on krugs bc u want to save it for the blue-gromp double camp. Make sure you kill raptors in only Q -> W -> Q. The easiest way I found to get a good W off on all of the raptors is to Q all of them to start, and then walk behind them so that they all clump up and then W. I couldn't get the way he did it in the video to work for me personally since they wouldn't clump up. The wolves -> blue transition with dragging the last big wolf to blue before killing it with a double camp Q that Phylaris does in his video is relatively simple to execute after you practice it. Then practice the blue-gromp double camp and make sure you get the Q and W sweetspot on both camps every time. If you're struggling with the spacing for the blue-gromp double camp, I'd recommend testing it out with fiddlestick's clear to get a feel for how big the region for double camping is.
@@Makorr1 Seems like the hardest part is the Krugs Red double camp. But tbh if you just clear Krugs normal you'll probably hit 3:15 instead of 3:08 and it'll be less risky.
Why’d everything speed up at 5:45 lol
26:28 what did he say?
Best Neace sound effect NA 24:22
This was nice. Now I know more about the mind of the Kayn players, I can now expect some nonsense at krugs should I be in this zac's or rumble's position.
How he did check so fast with the camera mid top e bottom?
Its crazy how u can have the guidance of a challenger coach and still have people that dont even play ur role, dont even play ur champ, think they know better what to do than Neace :)
26:29 what did he say? All i caught was "Yeah I bet these guys........... bronze jungler
Great vid. Enjoyable to watch.
How come that outro feels like I’m watching a captain America movie
Bro... even with the leash, he was still slower than the video. These top junglers are just speedrunners at this point rofl.
you do coach also eu ?
Now imagine if he didnt play lockscreen
I'm finally starting to not play locked and it has helped me out so much. I miss so much info each game still but it's getting better. And I must admit I do lock back up quite a bit because I get lost in the sauce and my tethering is so ass w/out lock because im used to keeping players a certain distance away from the middle of my screen and not my champ. Small brain hard to keep track of my guy when my screen doesn't! lol
hell even if he used the f keys
@@BeHappyTo personally i cant reach them without losing where my hand is at. but im bronze and use my pinky on q and index on r at all times so i jus click the minimap which is not efficient
NICE !! Audio is back
This guy was nice with it
Dang this outro is a banger (music and pose lol)
cant believe he is in diamond and plays lock screen
Is Zwag on your radar?
Nice gameplay and all, but how did Irelia XD in all chat like that?
Unbelievable
when you select a ward you can see the buff on it and it shows who put it fyi
what rank??
Why did Zac flash if he had passive?
Ayyy got sound now!
12:50 jinx “walks into zac E. pings kayn Xd
Informative coaching
good ol’ neace upload
Why in the hell is there a skin in which "red kayn" is blue?
bro put NEACE on 1.25 speed, shits scarry
YOOO ITS A YOUNG WILLEM DAFOE
I'm confused, is this Neace's channel?
No this is actually faker’s secret channel
Yes, who else would it be? Not being rude, just confused on why ure confused
@@opala6188 looks like you haven't been watching Nieces latest videos. Not being rude.
@@alejandromoran4590 I have actually. Still don't get it
@@opala6188 He's trying to make a bad joke because Neace is being nice and more calm in this coaching compared to his other videos where he coaches low elo clients. Which shouldn't be surprising or confusing to anyone because of course he is going to be less agitated and won't have to raise his voice 99% of the time when coaching someone who is diamond+. From the videos I've seen diamond+ all come into the coaching with a student's mindset, that is they come to learn and absorb information and not get defensive over their opinions and aggressively argue with no constructive goal to the argument.
no wonder why karasmai mains this champ
hes a beast at kayn holy
Why did neace tell him to slow-push at 26.54???
he didnt want him to sac the wave until his team got there for maximum pressure. every wave is important when you have baron.
teammates like these deserve any trolls that come their way.
Neace hates ganking bot
So satisfaing to watch this
bot duo were complaining only for him to become the win condition lmao
2:05 right
damn perfect game.
He's using locked cam
You got a cold?
19:03 ->
wtf is wrong with this guy's team, there is no way it's possible to stay sane in d4 without fullmute everygame
The conception of ego in gaming is weird because in traditional sports it's always been thought that you have to believe and work like you're the best just to make it on the bench, like shooting for the moon, but in gaming it's like expected you be extremely humble.
ego and self confidence isnt same thing. No one expects you to be humble just stop shitting on your teammates every single second and instead play the game
@@BeHappyTo fair but that's like saying being rich and being wealthy aren't the same thing, to a poor person it is. You're talking about a semantic difference.
La camera bloccata
Yeah you gotta keep that ego in check :D
Very epic 👍
I was expecting a good game but it is a solo game this one. No regard for the minimap, for where his support is, for what items people have, for who is ahead, for where to go. It is just Niece telling him but doesn't pick up his small mistakes. Is just Kayn gameplay and that's it.
youtube diff
for the alg
now sound. good cheif .
oh shit :D
ua-cam.com/video/E7XyGWAmrX4/v-deo.html
Why don't you hit the ward there ? is it for the sake of bating ?
He just need to work on his camera work.
Comment for the algorithm.
what hAppened lol
a kayn player??? sure will be impressive :OO
anyway nerf Aurelion Sol
What part of his kit do you want nerfed ?