After watching this series, Sauron's fate feels much sadder to me. Of course, he was purely evil in the end. But he also just had a distorted view of what a healed world would look like. It also feels cool to see that Galadriel and Sauron have such a past with each other.
Sauron was evil. After Morgoth was defeated and taken to Valinor Sauron asked for forgiveness from the leader of the Maiar but he was told to ask that from the Valar and accept whatever their judgement is over him. Sauron was prideful so he didn't want to beg for the Valar. Galadriel in the way the show portrays her does not exist. She is already wise beyond measure and not a teenage angst girl with anger management issues. The leaders of the elves are portrayed as fools and some of them even somewhat evil ..including this Galadriel who would torture and slaughter everyone who stands in her way. This "give me what I want because I want it" attitude is a terrible example to set for people watching the show. The original character had her strenghts and instead of showing that they replaced this with a selfish character with a hot temperment. They getting paid handsomely, but I still feel bad for some of the actors who actually can act and they tried their best like Sauron, Adar, Elendil. There is some talented people but I think this show will be considered as a hit to their career. If this would be a standalone new fantasy show in a world that Amazon created it could be okay-ish ..not good but okay. But considering the fact that they used material of a creator and they pretty much just used the names of characters and deviated from their original character and role so much is just sad to see.
@@asodalis695 but you need to understand Amazon doesn’t have many rights to Tolkien so they kinda have to make a few things up. Amazon doesn’t have rights to the first age stuff that’s why we only get glimpse’s of it. Halbrand is technically annatar but as a new character from sources, hopefully they’re not true. Sauron goes back to numenor hopefully in his annatar form.
@@alphagaming8083 I don't "need to understand" anything :D They have rights for more thing than we originally thought but that doesn't even matter in this argument because you simply cannot make up stuff that goes _against the lore that was written down in the books_! This sympathy for the devil stuff and romance between them is just simply silly. Galadriel is an elf and they are not like humans they actually have a bond with the one they choose as a partner. She should be there with her husband and child who was already born at this point. But hey you can't have that because you need to have Sauron for her as a love interest. Mount Doom was created in the First Age but Morgoth not Sauron! Gandalf arrived an age later and he did not come in a meteor! The wraiths did not exist. I don't care about their gender switch but they were the "ring wraiths" and even in this show the rings were not created yet. They had 0 knowledge about the Istari. Sauron had no clue about their arrival either. If you make an original show you can do whatever you want. If you buy yourself into small parts of a story you can't rewrite the main characters who already existed in a certain way in the books you don't have the rights for. They should be sueud. Also I don't know why do you keep commenting multiple times withtout any relevancy to your new comments are you paid for this or something? Or this is an alt account and you try to boltser your comment numbers? :D Anyways our argument ends here. Anyone who says this is an "amazing" show must be a troll because even if this would be an original show it would be medicore at best - also considering the fact they spent more than 700 million on this + the money they spent on the rights to the appendices this whole show is a huge failiure. The qualuty of costumes and armor is awful. There is like 3-4 actors who can actually act. The script makes no sense, they break the rules of the world while they travel. It usually takes them 5 minutes to travel 2 days and the day and night cycle switches in every 2 minutes while they are at the same place at the same time :D Númenor is at his peak as the most advanced human civilization at this time yet they barely have 500 people to offer as a military force and they are untrained. They were a huge military force at this point who pretty much conquered the mainland. They were also giants compared to humans, they were not simply humans. They had fleets yet in the show they have 5 small ships and they manage to put 500 man and their horses on it. This whole show is a joke and probably was a money laundering or something because it's clear to see that they money they spent was not spent on the show. Also Annatar was his name amongst the elves on Númenor he was called Zigúr, so you are simply wrong about this he cannot go back "in his Annatar form" because he was never Annatar in Númenor. They obviously changed the story there too and we already got the scenes where he spent his time there in captivity on purpose and talked his way out of it and deceived the leaders. He could do more and should do more but they have a new political drama there now so it's highly unlikely that Sauron will return to Númenor. This whole show is a failure and they should have spent that money on building an original series instead.
Beautiful edit ❤ What I love about Sauron in the series is that is a very complex villain, corrupted by evil but no completely evil. I’ve been a Tolkien fan since ages ago and in one part of Tolkien works we see a repentant Sauron. That is what the series captures and I love it. And the relationship between him in Galadriel, she almost took him again to the light… I can’t stop thinking about the finale…
Galadriel is not scared of Sauron because she knows Sauron will not kill her..Sauron needs her to be the Queen and i believe after many ages Sauron is still waiting for Galadriel to accept her proposal of being his Queen
Same here, I like the idea they have a history, and I like how they are trying to show Sauron as a character and less as a dark lord, though I’m sure his story arch will go into that direction
Thanks to this "weird" show you can feel the sorrow and the betray of this friendship being broken by the deceiver. Also is a interesting lesson the Galadriel arc and her journey through darkness and obssesion, her pride attracted Sauron, like Arien did with Melkor.
I don't care what anyone says, but this was a great start to this series. While not as excellent as the lord of the rings trilogy, this is leagues better than the hobbit.
Great video! No wonder why Galadriel was especially pissed at Sauron in the last Hobbit movie: because he couldn't put a RING on their relationship. Seriously, looking back on that clip after ROP, you canniot unhear them sounding like an angry divorced couple, LOL.
Galadriel and Sauron what a chemistry 😳 They both have such a tension and interaction. One relationship that is so controversial and full of sparks. See how he touches Galadriel physically two times when speaks to her, how he whispers to her ear like a man who want to emphises his interests to a woman. Looks like he is trying to demonstrate his attraction to her. As well as, remember the ep.6 scene, he is charmed by her light and he confessed he felted the vibes. Bad boy-good girl. Hope to develop their interaction. Love them very much.
Wow! Beautiful video! Amazon should have hired you to cut the trailer for this show. At first, I was disappointed that we didn’t get to see Annatar. I really wanted to see Sauron in his beautiful, elvish form. However, Charlie Vickers did such a great job as Halbrand and I liked the “secret Sauron” mystery that was created. Even though all roads led to Halbrand as Sauron…I did wonder if it was a red herring…and that in the last episode we might meet Annatar in the forge with Celebrimbor. However, I was Ok with how the season ended up because Charlie and Morfryd did such a great job with their characters and had great chemistry. The ending was sad…but very effective.
Breathtakingly beautiful! Fantastic editing, the images you chose, the flow, and the music❤ Love this pairing and how their story was told, will be interesting to see how it's developed. I think he 'played the part' of Halbrand so well he started to believe it himself, including his feelings for her. The idea that Sauron at least initially was repentant, even with a rather distorted view of what doing good for Middle earth means, is fascinating. Makes him so much more interesting than just a faceless ikon of darkness. And it makes his ending much sadder.. Amazing work!
When he marched down the steps happily saying they are making 2... Later realizing he intended for the two of them to wear the rings and rule together. I do think she is a great source of his inspiration. I think she could have manipulated him to do good. I was also surprised that he left her alive. She now knows his true face. Perhaps he trusted her not to come after him. Or maybe he loved her too much to kill her?
He was crafting two rings, one for him and one for her, and seemed elated at the prospect of two rings and announced it to her happily. He spoke truth and for being The Deceiver not once did a lie cross his lips when he spoke to her. He was very careful not to. Combined with his actual proposal of being his queen and he king, he may as well have writ what he can consider love as love for her. He was proposing to her. I stand by this. She remained ever present in his mind thereafter over the Ages, daily he tried to get inside her mind, but she shut the door. That occupation is beyond nemesis to nemesis, he was obsessed, beyond even that, it is a preoccupation only an ancient being can hold for another longed for, and she was on his mind constantly. They are immortal, what is thousands upon thousands of years, when he had infinite amount of time, according to him, for her to change her mind. He probably darn had a room and throne and clothes and jewelry all made up just for her, waiting for her one day in Mordor. Lothlorien is the only elven stronghold so close to Mordor that had NO evil touch it. Like whatttttt. Galadriel was so beautiful lots of evil lords wanted her to be theirs, for her hair imbued with the twin lights of the trees, her magic, her beauty, her prowess, but only Sauron wanted her by his side as his Queen and not as a plain ole object. And Melian and Thigold showcased already the love of an Elf and a Maia and producing beautiful unique children. Which begs the question about Imaldris being so uneffected. Was it also due to Celebrian being Galadriel's daughter. At this point, I don't care if they throw us crumbs, throw the crumbs every season! I want Sauron x Galadriel remaining as tragically romance coded as Season 1. Their chemistry was out of this world. I loved it! My whole family did.
this relationship adds so much depth to their characters. we knew them from lotr, but now there's an added layer of Sauron flickering for a moment, considering repentance after he met Galadriel, who in turn loses the ground from her feet when she learns the man who she felt something for, who she armed and made king is her bloodiest adversary and that he offered her power and allyship. wonderful video
I think Sauron's story should be explained in much more depth, since the Peter Jackson movies only gave us the Necromancer period and Sauron's total fall into darkness. However, his story, I think, starts exactly when he was Aule's apprentice, and we know about Aule that he was the closest in nature to Melkor: ambitious, always looking to build something new and ending up giving birth to some new beings: the Dwarves. Fortunately, Aule did not fall prey to evil, but, I think, he thirsted for knowledge and more, Mairon's nature obsessed with order and technology. Because Mairon was similar to Aule, he also wanted to "give life", to build, but he was not allowed, and that disappointed him. Like any apprentice, he wanted to express his creativity. From this point of view, he was attracted to "collaboration" with Morgoth, with whom he allied himself not out of a desire to be like him, but to be able to continue his "orderly and perfect" world. And what was once a virtue, later turned out to be an obsession that turned him into darkness. Even so, after losing the battle with Luthien he knew remorse, but his pride stopped him from returning to Valinor. The fact that he was summoned proves that he still had the ability to be rehabilitated. However, he chose to haunt Middle-earth, thinking it might cure him. It was only after this last failure that Sauron turned definitively evil. In Tolkien's world, nothing was absolutely bad and everything could be rehabilitated. Even Gollum. Then, how we could to belive that Tolkien not to give a chance to one of the most powerful and perfect Maiar? Sauron was consumed by his own ambition, pride, and loneliness where he shut himself up like a cage. He hated and loved the light alike!
THIS IS A MASTERPIECE! That part at the end where you use the voiceover about the rings and what each number will do to people alongside Halbrand's betrayal/reveal? BRILLIANT! I love this so much!! ❤
To me it gives a more human touch to Sauron . He was willing to spare and create Beauty. And actually talk with him and a face behind the Mask. He is awere of the things he did and will do. The things he thinks are needed to bring order and beauty and heal middle earth . Im kinda on the team of Sauron for some reason. Also this show showed me that Gandalf was more powerful than we even knew . Not the old man who only uses his staff for a light in the darkness. He kinda was a mighty God like Sauron himself. Interesting show for sure !
Yeah Gandalf is actually incredibly powerful. He and Sauron are both Maiar, basically angels in Tolkien's universe. Sauron, Gandalf, Radagast, Saruman, the Blue Wizards, the Balrogs, all belong to the same race known as the Ainur. which are separated into the Valar which are gods, and the Maiar which are angels, or spirits. Gandalf is extremely powerful, but in comparison to Sauron it's no real competition. Sauron was one of the greatest of the Maiar, arguably the greatest, and it's speculated that when Sauron was at his most powerful with the One Ring, he was as strong as Morgoth was, at his weakest. Which, considering Morgoth was so powerful he outclassed all of the other Valar combined in terms of power, that says alot. So yeah, Gandalf is alot stronger than he lets on, but Sauron's powers are truly frightening in scope. Another thing to consider when it comes to the powers of the Istari is the bodies they inhabit. they are encased in the bodies of old men, which limits their powers, they are also forbidden from fighting directly against Sauron. Thier duty was to lead and guide the free peoples against Sauron, to help these various races overthrow Sauron themselves. It's why Gandalf would never go and challenge Sauron directly, but he was willing to face the Balrog, and he fought it with such power it killed his body. Truly goes to show the scale of difference between these beings.
Sauron's storyline reminded me of this quote: “Most people are good and occasionally do something they know is bad. Some people are bad and struggle every day to keep it under control. Others are corrupt to the core and don’t give a damn, as long as they don’t get caught. But evil is a completely different creature, Mac. Evil is bad that believes it’s good.” ― Karen Marie Moning,
@@Kynokefalos the point I am trying to make is not to romanticize evil incarnate as a misunderstood anti-hero. I know and acknowledged The Professor hated allegory yet that is how both Morgorth and Sauron are. Pure evil
@@elizabethtaylor8428 I think that the fact viewers loves Sauron now as their edgy antihero, is because Sauron is so good, he tricks even the mind of the viewers, thats how he works.
This is a stunning video. The editing is so seamless. We don't even hear the music of the show behind or see the audio transitions, everything just flows perfectly. I liked the story you told with it.
And after the negative of being his Queen, he kept his promise and nothing ever harmed Galadriel to the point of death. I am in love with the books, amazed by the movies but this doesn't mean I cannot love this show as well. I watch it as if it was a fanfiction. Nothing is real and everything is permitted and also, Amazon is basing the plot on the movies not the books since they couldn't buy the rights of the entire novels but only the prologue. I hate reading comments that hate on Galadriel's character, is true there are better actors but this woman is doing everything she can with the script she was given. Hopefully, we will get a better season 2 in about two years (remember, good CGI requires time). I enjoyed the video. I can't say much more because I see a lot of people have already said what I meant to write.
@@abelbabel8484 It's supposed to be slower-paced as Tolkien's novels are super long. Heck, it would take five minutes to read a passage describing a brief vision or something.
@@abelbabel8484 No, it's quite the opposite of what you claim. It does capture the tone and feeling of Tolkien's books. I daresay it does it better than Peter Jackson's films.
Sauron is not enterily evil. Ok he is, but he seeks order unlike morgoth who is all about chaos. U can live under saurons command as long as u obey his biding. The fact that many people started to like him after the RoP show only shows how good of a deciever he really is. If show made one thing good, than it is this.
Omg! You are one of my fav! Im so happy that you made this edit, brilliant as always! Thank you. ♥️ My feelings about season 1 are quite similar than yours. Halbrand is Sauron thing was kinda obvious but there is some good chemistry, lovers to enemies vibes, tragic thing that dont let me go 😃 ah.
Precisely 100% with writers trained by fucking JJ Abrams. Coincidentally that's also the chance of then immediately after randomly running into Elendil on the same ocean 🤪😂
@@Kynokefalos I just made that statement based off of Kenobi's Vader quote (ex. Anakin is gone, I am what remains). Sauron's original name was Mairon. He was once a good and admirable maiar. Over time during his service under Morgoth, Mairon became evil and he was called Sauron (meaning abhorred) by his enemies.
So much grief and pain as Halbrand slowly and surely, descends in utter evil in his rebirth as Sauron. Galadriel blindly trusts him. Or was she purposefully closing her eyes to the truth staring into her face? I never realized that there was a past story in their relationship until I saw the series.
As a Tolkien reader, i don't like the deviations that happened, yet who knows? Tolkiens notes and most of his writings weren't published. So maybe, just maybe J.R.R. wrote something similar to this? This version makes Sauron's evil path a bit more understandable. The reason he choose to return to darkness... Was a love, which never got any reply from her.
I'm pretty damn sure there's no version of a Galadriel and Sauron falling in love while adrift on a shipwrecked raft floating to Numenor. Pretty damn sure.
@@abelbabel8484 I said who knows? Nobody. How are you so sure? In Tolkien, even the pure evil Morgoth would return to light at the Last Battle on Valinor. What convinces you Sauron could not return?
@@karizmaikili4058 "If it [the Ring] is destroyed, then he will fall, and his fall will be so low that none can foresee his arising ever again. For he will lose the best part of the strength that was native to him in his beginning, and all that was made or begun with that power will crumble, and he will be maimed for ever, becoming a mere spirit of malice that gnaws itself in the shadows, but cannot again grow or take shape. And so a great evil of this world will be removed." -The Return of the King, "The Last Debate" Also Morgoth is killed by either Eonwe or Turin in the Dagor Dagorath, not returned to light. Same as Saruman fades from the world forever.
Well technically even in this version all he would need to do is come clean. That would make him at worst, an un armed prisoner who they won’t let Galadriel kill.
Nope. That is like an abusive husband claiming he'll not be abusive again If only his wife did what he wanted. I know it is an extreme analogy but faulting Galadriel for her decision not to believe Sauron is also an extreme apologist stance to justify his lying and alleged redemption.
When Sauron threw off Morgoth's yoke, he was lost, because he didn't know what to do now, putting on the Dark Lord's shoes is not something that occurs to you overnight if you started serving him "involuntarily". He just wants to explore his place in the world, a world ruined by Morgoth and the Shadow, he just wants to put it in order and heal it, and control it so that it will never be ruined again, it is his wish at any cost. Galadriel gave him hope, showed him the way and encouraged him to put himself in Melkor's shoes to achieve his goal. Of course Sauron doesn't think he is evil, he is a "god", he does what he has to do.
Crazy that every single person with a brain knew that Halbrand was Sauron from the start yet this is supposed to be the big reveal and twist after 8 episodes. Nice edit tho
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There are not many published scripts of Tolkien about Sauron returning to darkness in Second Age. So maybe, Simon Tolkien actually gave us a part of Real lore, who knows? That is getting much more confusing...
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What do you guys think about the rings of power? Apart from the performance of the actress which plays Galadriel (which is abysmal), everything else seems ok. Not at the level of LOTR, but ok enough to not slander it.
@@Kynokefalos Any one was a psychotic killer obsessed with revenge and flirting with Sauron while her husband was presumed dead? No? Then this is a desecration of all versions of the story.
@@Kynokefalos I said presumed dead - in ep7 she says "Celeborn *was* his name.", presuming he died in war. Can you not read? Just watch this video again. Do you not recognize a romantic subplot when you see one? Have you no eyes? The point stands. Did Tolkien ever write a version of Galadriel that went to Numenor with Sauron after a shipwreck? No? Desecration it is, then.
Alright then. Tolkien yes wrote about Celeborn and Galadriel being separated for a while. 2 or 3 times. And there is no room for love in Sauron's mind, thats obvious.
Thos series is a total disaster. Galadriel is not and never was the warrior type, she's a sorceress and a lady, a powerful, ancient and beatiful, but subtle spirit. Sauron was never a victim of the circunstances, he always was a purely evil spirit, that has chosen to corrupt itself, from the beggining of time. This series is a disrespect with the work of Tolkien, which has almost a century. Shame on you, Amazon!
@@johnycoho7830 yes, perfect, but he's being depicted as a not-so-bad creature, that was twisted by poor circunstances - any similarity with the "bad guys are just victims" narrative is not just a coincidence. - after come to Middle-Earth, which is simply too far away from the truth. For me, all this series is pure woke garbage, an ideological propaganda, using Tolkien's theme as a background, it's disgusting. Like, what was that scene of Galadriel - yes, GALADRIEL- cracking a troll's skull, alone, in 5 seconds, with a long sword, moving like Jaspion? That was just bizarre. 😑
You're only thinking in Third Age. There are letters of Tolkien talking about Galadriel hunting Sauron in Second Age, and Sauron being repentant after he was free of Morgoth, and he wanted to heal and control the world, even if everyone hates him for that, so he eventually ends taking the shoes of Morgoth to achieve his goal.
@@gabrielvalentoniguelfi8945 I dont think they wanted ro make him look nice, he looks nice and a good person because hes the great deciever of course he wont go on a full out evil rant because then he couldnt manopulate anyone, Sauron wqs simply lying to Galadriel which perfectly fits him.
Another product and a free adaptation. Don't think that Rings Of Power is the same story but another continuity. A new story based in the characters that we all know or a reboot. It's pointless trying to make sense 100% to the books because that never the intention.
After watching this series, Sauron's fate feels much sadder to me. Of course, he was purely evil in the end. But he also just had a distorted view of what a healed world would look like. It also feels cool to see that Galadriel and Sauron have such a past with each other.
Sauron was evil. After Morgoth was defeated and taken to Valinor Sauron asked for forgiveness from the leader of the Maiar but he was told to ask that from the Valar and accept whatever their judgement is over him. Sauron was prideful so he didn't want to beg for the Valar. Galadriel in the way the show portrays her does not exist. She is already wise beyond measure and not a teenage angst girl with anger management issues. The leaders of the elves are portrayed as fools and some of them even somewhat evil ..including this Galadriel who would torture and slaughter everyone who stands in her way. This "give me what I want because I want it" attitude is a terrible example to set for people watching the show. The original character had her strenghts and instead of showing that they replaced this with a selfish character with a hot temperment.
They getting paid handsomely, but I still feel bad for some of the actors who actually can act and they tried their best like Sauron, Adar, Elendil. There is some talented people but I think this show will be considered as a hit to their career.
If this would be a standalone new fantasy show in a world that Amazon created it could be okay-ish ..not good but okay. But considering the fact that they used material of a creator and they pretty much just used the names of characters and deviated from their original character and role so much is just sad to see.
@@asodalis695 but you need to understand Amazon doesn’t have many rights to Tolkien so they kinda have to make a few things up. Amazon doesn’t have rights to the first age stuff that’s why we only get glimpse’s of it. Halbrand is technically annatar but as a new character from sources, hopefully they’re not true. Sauron goes back to numenor hopefully in his annatar form.
Overall all it’s an amazing show.
@@alphagaming8083 I don't "need to understand" anything :D They have rights for more thing than we originally thought but that doesn't even matter in this argument because you simply cannot make up stuff that goes _against the lore that was written down in the books_! This sympathy for the devil stuff and romance between them is just simply silly. Galadriel is an elf and they are not like humans they actually have a bond with the one they choose as a partner. She should be there with her husband and child who was already born at this point. But hey you can't have that because you need to have Sauron for her as a love interest.
Mount Doom was created in the First Age but Morgoth not Sauron!
Gandalf arrived an age later and he did not come in a meteor!
The wraiths did not exist. I don't care about their gender switch but they were the "ring wraiths" and even in this show the rings were not created yet.
They had 0 knowledge about the Istari. Sauron had no clue about their arrival either.
If you make an original show you can do whatever you want. If you buy yourself into small parts of a story you can't rewrite the main characters who already existed in a certain way in the books you don't have the rights for. They should be sueud. Also I don't know why do you keep commenting multiple times withtout any relevancy to your new comments are you paid for this or something? Or this is an alt account and you try to boltser your comment numbers? :D Anyways our argument ends here. Anyone who says this is an "amazing" show must be a troll because even if this would be an original show it would be medicore at best - also considering the fact they spent more than 700 million on this + the money they spent on the rights to the appendices this whole show is a huge failiure. The qualuty of costumes and armor is awful. There is like 3-4 actors who can actually act. The script makes no sense, they break the rules of the world while they travel. It usually takes them 5 minutes to travel 2 days and the day and night cycle switches in every 2 minutes while they are at the same place at the same time :D
Númenor is at his peak as the most advanced human civilization at this time yet they barely have 500 people to offer as a military force and they are untrained. They were a huge military force at this point who pretty much conquered the mainland. They were also giants compared to humans, they were not simply humans. They had fleets yet in the show they have 5 small ships and they manage to put 500 man and their horses on it. This whole show is a joke and probably was a money laundering or something because it's clear to see that they money they spent was not spent on the show.
Also Annatar was his name amongst the elves on Númenor he was called Zigúr, so you are simply wrong about this he cannot go back "in his Annatar form" because he was never Annatar in Númenor. They obviously changed the story there too and we already got the scenes where he spent his time there in captivity on purpose and talked his way out of it and deceived the leaders. He could do more and should do more but they have a new political drama there now so it's highly unlikely that Sauron will return to Númenor.
This whole show is a failure and they should have spent that money on building an original series instead.
@@alphagaming8083 If you can't get the rights, don't make the movie. Don't just make idiot shit up that makes no sense.
Beautiful edit ❤ What I love about Sauron in the series is that is a very complex villain, corrupted by evil but no completely evil. I’ve been a Tolkien fan since ages ago and in one part of Tolkien works we see a repentant Sauron. That is what the series captures and I love it. And the relationship between him in Galadriel, she almost took him again to the light… I can’t stop thinking about the finale…
I like how Sauron/Halbrand really just wanted to do good unlike Morgoth, but he just had such a distorted and evil view of it.
Now we can understand why Galadriel and Sauron was so emotional when they fight each other in Dol Guldur.
or he its not Sauron remember was at Wow the Jailer did with Anduin he Talks tough him
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Galadriel is not scared of Sauron because she knows Sauron will not kill her..Sauron needs her to be the Queen and i believe after many ages Sauron is still waiting for Galadriel to accept her proposal of being his Queen
Yeah, they're emotional cause they're trying to kill each other.
Don't even try to attach this trash to the more faithful works or even the originals.
@@abelbabel8484 okey doc calm down🤣🤣🤣 and i attach every where and everything i want! Im a free man! XD
Absolute chills. Really made me appreciate this approach to Sauron even though I was initially very disappointed in the deviation from Tolkien.
And a few tears, for sure
Same here, I like the idea they have a history, and I like how they are trying to show Sauron as a character and less as a dark lord, though I’m sure his story arch will go into that direction
Thanks to this "weird" show you can feel the sorrow and the betray of this friendship being broken by the deceiver. Also is a interesting lesson the Galadriel arc and her journey through darkness and obssesion, her pride attracted Sauron, like Arien did with Melkor.
I don't care what anyone says, but this was a great start to this series. While not as excellent as the lord of the rings trilogy, this is leagues better than the hobbit.
I agree, this show is awesome, and I hope they will make season 2 and many more seasons.
You people are out of your gourd. The Hobbit movies look like masterpieces next to this wreck.
Great video! No wonder why Galadriel was especially pissed at Sauron in the last Hobbit movie: because he couldn't put a RING on their relationship. Seriously, looking back on that clip after ROP, you canniot unhear them sounding like an angry divorced couple, LOL.
Galadriel and Sauron what a chemistry 😳 They both have such a tension and interaction. One relationship that is so controversial and full of sparks. See how he touches Galadriel physically two times when speaks to her, how he whispers to her ear like a man who want to emphises his interests to a woman. Looks like he is trying to demonstrate his attraction to her. As well as, remember the ep.6 scene, he is charmed by her light and he confessed he felted the vibes.
Bad boy-good girl. Hope to develop their interaction. Love them very much.
Yes, the chemistry was undeniable 🔥
This finale has been an absolute masterpiece. I got chills.
Are you trolling?
@@kidnamedfinger420 finale was actually good man, credit where credit is due come on!
@@mnkasuraniumladLOL no. It's like a porn parody with all the sex cut out LMAO
@@mnkasuraniumlad Lol if it was a separate world it would've been good but it's tolkein man
Its an interesting idea to be sure but it paints so many characters in an ugly light.
YES. FINALLY SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS MY LOVE FOR THIS SHOW.
Wow! Beautiful video! Amazon should have hired you to cut the trailer for this show. At first, I was disappointed that we didn’t get to see Annatar. I really wanted to see Sauron in his beautiful, elvish form. However, Charlie Vickers did such a great job as Halbrand and I liked the “secret Sauron” mystery that was created. Even though all roads led to Halbrand as Sauron…I did wonder if it was a red herring…and that in the last episode we might meet Annatar in the forge with Celebrimbor. However, I was Ok with how the season ended up because Charlie and Morfryd did such a great job with their characters and had great chemistry. The ending was sad…but very effective.
Absolutely STUNNING WOW! Youve got an eye for details! This is definitely one of the best Rings of Power videos out there
Thank you so much !! :3
Epic Prologue 🔥🔥🔥
Galadriel's voice is perfection to this ❤
Visuals stunning 🔥
Nice Edition 👏👏👏
Breathtakingly beautiful! Fantastic editing, the images you chose, the flow, and the music❤ Love this pairing and how their story was told, will be interesting to see how it's developed. I think he 'played the part' of Halbrand so well he started to believe it himself, including his feelings for her. The idea that Sauron at least initially was repentant, even with a rather distorted view of what doing good for Middle earth means, is fascinating. Makes him so much more interesting than just a faceless ikon of darkness. And it makes his ending much sadder.. Amazing work!
When he marched down the steps happily saying they are making 2... Later realizing he intended for the two of them to wear the rings and rule together.
I do think she is a great source of his inspiration. I think she could have manipulated him to do good. I was also surprised that he left her alive. She now knows his true face. Perhaps he trusted her not to come after him. Or maybe he loved her too much to kill her?
Because Sauron journey to became the epitome of evil just started, he will become Morgoth by his own choice this time.
He left her to drown but Elrond found her
@@dutchkel wasn't her face above water though? And he left her in the illusion of her drowning when they were out on the raft before he saved her.
Her face was not under water it was an illusion
He was crafting two rings, one for him and one for her, and seemed elated at the prospect of two rings and announced it to her happily. He spoke truth and for being The Deceiver not once did a lie cross his lips when he spoke to her. He was very careful not to. Combined with his actual proposal of being his queen and he king, he may as well have writ what he can consider love as love for her. He was proposing to her. I stand by this. She remained ever present in his mind thereafter over the Ages, daily he tried to get inside her mind, but she shut the door. That occupation is beyond nemesis to nemesis, he was obsessed, beyond even that, it is a preoccupation only an ancient being can hold for another longed for, and she was on his mind constantly. They are immortal, what is thousands upon thousands of years, when he had infinite amount of time, according to him, for her to change her mind. He probably darn had a room and throne and clothes and jewelry all made up just for her, waiting for her one day in Mordor. Lothlorien is the only elven stronghold so close to Mordor that had NO evil touch it. Like whatttttt. Galadriel was so beautiful lots of evil lords wanted her to be theirs, for her hair imbued with the twin lights of the trees, her magic, her beauty, her prowess, but only Sauron wanted her by his side as his Queen and not as a plain ole object. And Melian and Thigold showcased already the love of an Elf and a Maia and producing beautiful unique children.
Which begs the question about Imaldris being so uneffected. Was it also due to Celebrian being Galadriel's daughter.
At this point, I don't care if they throw us crumbs, throw the crumbs every season! I want Sauron x Galadriel remaining as tragically romance coded as Season 1. Their chemistry was out of this world. I loved it! My whole family did.
this relationship adds so much depth to their characters. we knew them from lotr, but now there's an added layer of Sauron flickering for a moment, considering repentance after he met Galadriel, who in turn loses the ground from her feet when she learns the man who she felt something for, who she armed and made king is her bloodiest adversary and that he offered her power and allyship. wonderful video
I think Sauron's story should be explained in much more depth, since the Peter Jackson movies only gave us the Necromancer period and Sauron's total fall into darkness. However, his story, I think, starts exactly when he was Aule's apprentice, and we know about Aule that he was the closest in nature to Melkor: ambitious, always looking to build something new and ending up giving birth to some new beings: the Dwarves. Fortunately, Aule did not fall prey to evil, but, I think, he thirsted for knowledge and more, Mairon's nature obsessed with order and technology.
Because Mairon was similar to Aule, he also wanted to "give life", to build, but he was not allowed, and that disappointed him. Like any apprentice, he wanted to express his creativity. From this point of view, he was attracted to "collaboration" with Morgoth, with whom he allied himself not out of a desire to be like him, but to be able to continue his "orderly and perfect" world. And what was once a virtue, later turned out to be an obsession that turned him into darkness. Even so, after losing the battle with Luthien he knew remorse, but his pride stopped him from returning to Valinor. The fact that he was summoned proves that he still had the ability to be rehabilitated. However, he chose to haunt Middle-earth, thinking it might cure him. It was only after this last failure that Sauron turned definitively evil.
In Tolkien's world, nothing was absolutely bad and everything could be rehabilitated. Even Gollum. Then, how we could to belive that Tolkien not to give a chance to one of the most powerful and perfect Maiar? Sauron was consumed by his own ambition, pride, and loneliness where he shut himself up like a cage. He hated and loved the light alike!
THIS IS A MASTERPIECE! That part at the end where you use the voiceover about the rings and what each number will do to people alongside Halbrand's betrayal/reveal? BRILLIANT! I love this so much!! ❤
What a masterpiece you did ! Great edit 🔥
Put it in simple words, the whole LOTR saga is basically a rift between 2 love birds.
Around 3-4 lovebirds from different generations and ages of Middle Earth.
Unless you can read books, thats what people will believe now I guess
@@SiriProject the movies he means
Amazing work! Beautiful choices of music, incredibly edited, really loved it ❤️
Thank you ! :3
To me it gives a more human touch to Sauron . He was willing to spare and create Beauty. And actually talk with him and a face behind the Mask. He is awere of the things he did and will do. The things he thinks are needed to bring order and beauty and heal middle earth . Im kinda on the team of Sauron for some reason. Also this show showed me that Gandalf was more powerful than we even knew . Not the old man who only uses his staff for a light in the darkness. He kinda was a mighty God like Sauron himself. Interesting show for sure !
I'm not lore expert but I think Gandalf is the same race as Sauron he just didn't have anything to power him up like the ring?
Yeah Gandalf is actually incredibly powerful. He and Sauron are both Maiar, basically angels in Tolkien's universe. Sauron, Gandalf, Radagast, Saruman, the Blue Wizards, the Balrogs, all belong to the same race known as the Ainur. which are separated into the Valar which are gods, and the Maiar which are angels, or spirits. Gandalf is extremely powerful, but in comparison to Sauron it's no real competition. Sauron was one of the greatest of the Maiar, arguably the greatest, and it's speculated that when Sauron was at his most powerful with the One Ring, he was as strong as Morgoth was, at his weakest. Which, considering Morgoth was so powerful he outclassed all of the other Valar combined in terms of power, that says alot. So yeah, Gandalf is alot stronger than he lets on, but Sauron's powers are truly frightening in scope. Another thing to consider when it comes to the powers of the Istari is the bodies they inhabit. they are encased in the bodies of old men, which limits their powers, they are also forbidden from fighting directly against Sauron. Thier duty was to lead and guide the free peoples against Sauron, to help these various races overthrow Sauron themselves. It's why Gandalf would never go and challenge Sauron directly, but he was willing to face the Balrog, and he fought it with such power it killed his body. Truly goes to show the scale of difference between these beings.
@@parrino12456 wow thanks for that's Awesome!!
@@parrino12456 great breakdown thanks
I agree but both Gandalf and Sauron are Maiar it’s just that Sauron was a stronger one.
What I need now is fanfics 😩😭
Sauron's storyline reminded me of this quote: “Most people are good and occasionally do something they know is bad. Some people are bad and struggle every day to keep it under control. Others are corrupt to the core and don’t give a damn, as long as they don’t get caught. But evil is a completely different creature, Mac. Evil is bad that believes it’s good.”
― Karen Marie Moning,
Such an emotional brillant edit 😭 you perfectly encompassed all the best things that came out of her/their storylines! Can’t wait for s2 ngl
the best fan edit so far! kudos
I love the story between Galadriel and Halbrand/Sauron...and that they portraited his feelings cause he Not ever was the big mean villain
He was literally Satan. BS series will make him an Antihero in season 2. This is really some serious 💩💩💩💩💩💩
@@elizabethtaylor8428 Satan is Morgoth, he is Lucifer. But Tolkien said it loud and clear, his work isnt an analogy.
@@Kynokefalos the point I am trying to make is not to romanticize evil incarnate as a misunderstood anti-hero. I know and acknowledged The Professor hated allegory yet that is how both Morgorth and Sauron are. Pure evil
@@elizabethtaylor8428 I think that the fact viewers loves Sauron now as their edgy antihero, is because Sauron is so good, he tricks even the mind of the viewers, thats how he works.
@@elizabethtaylor8428 I agree with you
I already added it to my faves when I was just halfway through
Thank you so much !! glad you liked and i agree completely, also the visuals were so beautiful
happy you saw that combination
Honestly this was what I was looking for today when I finished the last ep. Great editing! Thanks!
This is a stunning video. The editing is so seamless. We don't even hear the music of the show behind or see the audio transitions, everything just flows perfectly. I liked the story you told with it.
Thank you so much !!
And after the negative of being his Queen, he kept his promise and nothing ever harmed Galadriel to the point of death.
I am in love with the books, amazed by the movies but this doesn't mean I cannot love this show as well. I watch it as if it was a fanfiction. Nothing is real and everything is permitted and also, Amazon is basing the plot on the movies not the books since they couldn't buy the rights of the entire novels but only the prologue.
I hate reading comments that hate on Galadriel's character, is true there are better actors but this woman is doing everything she can with the script she was given. Hopefully, we will get a better season 2 in about two years (remember, good CGI requires time).
I enjoyed the video. I can't say much more because I see a lot of people have already said what I meant to write.
amazing edit, amazing series! 🤩😍
The editing in this video is incredible
Cilyra, you make great vids.
This is professional quality.
Thank you so much !!
Nicely edited. You have a much better sense for pacing than the showrunners.
You really had to blame pacing on the creators, don't you?
@@kennethlau8990 Yes
@@abelbabel8484 It's supposed to be slower-paced as Tolkien's novels are super long. Heck, it would take five minutes to read a passage describing a brief vision or something.
@@kennethlau8990 It's boring, thoughtless, makes no sense and sucks.
It has nothing of the charm, depth and quality of the books.
@@abelbabel8484 No, it's quite the opposite of what you claim. It does capture the tone and feeling of Tolkien's books. I daresay it does it better than Peter Jackson's films.
well done, he was definately the stand out of the season algonside Adar! and the finale was pretty well done! excited for season 2
fala em portugues desgraça, se for falar em ingles, pelo menos escreve certo
Sauron is not enterily evil. Ok he is, but he seeks order unlike morgoth who is all about chaos. U can live under saurons command as long as u obey his biding. The fact that many people started to like him after the RoP show only shows how good of a deciever he really is. If show made one thing good, than it is this.
This is a very marvellous ,unique spectacular, perfect, great video I have ever seen. Will done!! 💜
Omg! You are one of my fav! Im so happy that you made this edit, brilliant as always! Thank you. ♥️ My feelings about season 1 are quite similar than yours. Halbrand is Sauron thing was kinda obvious but there is some good chemistry, lovers to enemies vibes, tragic thing that dont let me go 😃 ah.
Thank you so much ! That relationship was one of the best dynamics
It took all season to show how brilliant the ending was. It's only the start...
2:34-3:12 😭🤣 I repeted too much. Haha. And they are just riding away peacefully (in my imagination) 🥴☺️
This is brilliant! ❤️
Great editing. Thank you ❣
AMAZING. Thank you.
Can someone tell me what are your chances of finding the Dark Lord Sauron in disguise on a drifting raft in the middle of the ocean?
Only Eru Ilúvatar knows.
It didnt happen by chance he did it on pourpose.
Your chances are high if the gods intend for that to happen.
Precisely 100% with writers trained by fucking JJ Abrams. Coincidentally that's also the chance of then immediately after randomly running into Elendil on the same ocean 🤪😂
And that we get an answer for in season 2, like Charlie Wickers said in a recent interview.
Mairon is gone. There is only Sauron now.
This is from a movie? XP
@@Kynokefalos Rings of Power tv show (Amazon)
@@ryankwon8785 I mean this line "x is gone, there is only x now", i think i know it from somewhere.
@@Kynokefalos I just made that statement based off of Kenobi's Vader quote (ex. Anakin is gone, I am what remains). Sauron's original name was Mairon. He was once a good and admirable maiar. Over time during his service under Morgoth, Mairon became evil and he was called Sauron (meaning abhorred) by his enemies.
Amazing work !
What. A. Blast !!! top quality video
Galadriel 💔 Halbrand. Fuckkkk 😭😭
This is incredible! 😍😍
So much grief and pain as Halbrand slowly and surely, descends in utter evil in his rebirth as Sauron. Galadriel blindly trusts him. Or was she purposefully closing her eyes to the truth staring into her face? I never realized that there was a past story in their relationship until I saw the series.
Wow! Beautiful ❤
“To every corner” has the same sound like Gandalf after saying the black speech of Mordor
Amazon is proud of you.
Wow! ❤
As a Tolkien reader, i don't like the deviations that happened, yet who knows? Tolkiens notes and most of his writings weren't published. So maybe, just maybe J.R.R. wrote something similar to this?
This version makes Sauron's evil path a bit more understandable. The reason he choose to return to darkness...
Was a love, which never got any reply from her.
I'm pretty damn sure there's no version of a Galadriel and Sauron falling in love while adrift on a shipwrecked raft floating to Numenor.
Pretty damn sure.
@@abelbabel8484 I said similar, maybe the main essence of Sauron trying to return to the light existed? And i said maybe
@@karizmaikili4058 And I said definitely not
@@abelbabel8484 I said who knows?
Nobody. How are you so sure?
In Tolkien, even the pure evil Morgoth would return to light at the Last Battle on Valinor.
What convinces you Sauron could not return?
@@karizmaikili4058 "If it [the Ring] is destroyed, then he will fall, and his fall will be so low that none can foresee his arising ever again. For he will lose the best part of the strength that was native to him in his beginning, and all that was made or begun with that power will crumble, and he will be maimed for ever, becoming a mere spirit of malice that gnaws itself in the shadows, but cannot again grow or take shape. And so a great evil of this world will be removed."
-The Return of the King, "The Last Debate"
Also Morgoth is killed by either Eonwe or Turin in the Dagor Dagorath, not returned to light. Same as Saruman fades from the world forever.
Thanks, i needed this.
You have been a warrior in this comment section lmao, thank you for understanding the real purpose of this video
Good work!
Amazong work!
Whoever edited this should work on the show.
Would you guys forgive Galadriel’s performance in season 1 if it got insanely better in future seasons?
The desicration of Tolkien's work should never be forgiven.
Sure. If she learners from her hotblooded decisions. Noldor elves be like.
@@hehe6969 😂😂😂😂😂 you didn’t care until they announced show. Manufactured hatred to sell clicks
@@explicitw8657 sorry fans for this cry....
*F E A N O R*
@@explicitw8657 Untill they announced this woke fan fic, tolkiens works were in good hands.
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Past recollections should hurt.
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All the fault of Galadriel. Sauron wanted peace. Gave up.
She gave him hope and then broke his heart.
Well technically even in this version all he would need to do is come clean. That would make him at worst, an un armed prisoner who they won’t let Galadriel kill.
Also it safe to just assume he is lying about being nice.
Nope. That is like an abusive husband claiming he'll not be abusive again If only his wife did what he wanted. I know it is an extreme analogy but faulting Galadriel for her decision not to believe Sauron is also an extreme apologist stance to justify his lying and alleged redemption.
He was manipulating her from the start, and continues to do so.
When Sauron threw off Morgoth's yoke, he was lost, because he didn't know what to do now, putting on the Dark Lord's shoes is not something that occurs to you overnight if you started serving him "involuntarily". He just wants to explore his place in the world, a world ruined by Morgoth and the Shadow, he just wants to put it in order and heal it, and control it so that it will never be ruined again, it is his wish at any cost. Galadriel gave him hope, showed him the way and encouraged him to put himself in Melkor's shoes to achieve his goal. Of course Sauron doesn't think he is evil, he is a "god", he does what he has to do.
Wow.
So this series or movies is basically a lovestory between Galadriel and Sauron. 🤔😒 I doubt Tolkien would have approved that.
Crazy that every single person with a brain knew that Halbrand was Sauron from the start yet this is supposed to be the big reveal and twist after 8 episodes. Nice edit tho
"Looks can be deceiving" lmao
Is it wrong to ship Galadriel with Sauron? lol
The show is awsome
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There are not many published scripts of Tolkien about Sauron returning to darkness in Second Age. So maybe, Simon Tolkien actually gave us a part of Real lore, who knows? That is getting much more confusing...
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What do you guys think about the rings of power? Apart from the performance of the actress which plays Galadriel (which is abysmal), everything else seems ok.
Not at the level of LOTR, but ok enough to not slander it.
Very mediocre. Couldve been so much better.
A good start of something great, like LOTR did in its age.
standing on its own, it’s bad. attach tolkien’s name to it and it’s awful.
I really like this series
It should not exist
Saw this thumbnail before watching the episode. A bit of a spoiler :(
As someone with a youtube feed already full of these thumbnails I didn't realize, I'm really sorry about that. :(
Beautiful edit!
though,
Not the series for me.
They desecrated the Real Galadriel.
Which one? Tolkien wrote a few.
@@Kynokefalos Any one was a psychotic killer obsessed with revenge and flirting with Sauron while her husband was presumed dead? No?
Then this is a desecration of all versions of the story.
@@abelbabel8484 Neither Celeborn is dead and Galadriel isnt flirting with the Devil. You're a fool if you believed that.
@@Kynokefalos I said presumed dead - in ep7 she says "Celeborn *was* his name.", presuming he died in war. Can you not read?
Just watch this video again. Do you not recognize a romantic subplot when you see one? Have you no eyes?
The point stands. Did Tolkien ever write a version of Galadriel that went to Numenor with Sauron after a shipwreck? No?
Desecration it is, then.
Alright then. Tolkien yes wrote about Celeborn and Galadriel being separated for a while. 2 or 3 times.
And there is no room for love in Sauron's mind, thats obvious.
Save your self.
Galadriel was the tallest of Even women at 6 foot 4 inches, therefore she should not be looking up to men.
Well she is looking up to Sauron so….
Sauron was a Maia. So....
Thos series is a total disaster. Galadriel is not and never was the warrior type, she's a sorceress and a lady, a powerful, ancient and beatiful, but subtle spirit.
Sauron was never a victim of the circunstances, he always was a purely evil spirit, that has chosen to corrupt itself, from the beggining of time. This series is a disrespect with the work of Tolkien, which has almost a century. Shame on you, Amazon!
Technically Sauron has only been evil since shortly after the beginning of time. He was created good, but as you said, chose to be evil
@@johnycoho7830 yes, perfect, but he's being depicted as a not-so-bad creature, that was twisted by poor circunstances - any similarity with the "bad guys are just victims" narrative is not just a coincidence. - after come to Middle-Earth, which is simply too far away from the truth.
For me, all this series is pure woke garbage, an ideological propaganda, using Tolkien's theme as a background, it's disgusting.
Like, what was that scene of Galadriel - yes, GALADRIEL- cracking a troll's skull, alone, in 5 seconds, with a long sword, moving like Jaspion? That was just bizarre. 😑
You're only thinking in Third Age. There are letters of Tolkien talking about Galadriel hunting Sauron in Second Age, and Sauron being repentant after he was free of Morgoth, and he wanted to heal and control the world, even if everyone hates him for that, so he eventually ends taking the shoes of Morgoth to achieve his goal.
@@gabrielvalentoniguelfi8945 I dont think they wanted ro make him look nice, he looks nice and a good person because hes the great deciever of course he wont go on a full out evil rant because then he couldnt manopulate anyone, Sauron wqs simply lying to Galadriel which perfectly fits him.
Another product and a free adaptation. Don't think that Rings Of Power is the same story but another continuity. A new story based in the characters that we all know or a reboot.
It's pointless trying to make sense 100% to the books because that never the intention.
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