Matt, I think your main pain here was not meeting the requirements for each coaster. Different coasters require different things to be present to get their full excitement; not meeting the requirements usually halves the excitement rating (and intensity and nausea, weirdly). For example, you can meet the requirements for a corkscrew coaster with just one half of a corkscrew, but you need a big drop for a hypercoaster. This is true of all tracked rides as well, not just coasters. Pretty sure that was what was happening with your launched coaster pair. One of them met it's requirements, the other didn't. So even though they were identical, one had 6 excitement and the other had around 3. Because it's stats were halved!
the corkscrew is the best coaster to cheese scenarios with. You just put it in powered launch at lowest speed and have it do 2 station segments onto a half corkscrew. It cost around 700 dollars to build. The stats are good enough to charge around 7 dollars a ride and adds i think 165 to the guest soft cap.
It's honestly a real challenge to get 6 excitement on a Stand-Up coaster even if you don't fail to meet the requirements. It's a super bad ride type for something like this.
Not 100% sure, but if I'm remembering correctly, you can build coasters in those rock faces, and the coaster uses the rock as support... that way, coaster pieces don't cost as much, and you get great excitement value going in and out of rocks! Would love to see you try again! 😁
Its because of ‘stat requirements’. Basically every coaster has certain requirements and if not met the ratings are sometimes halved, sometimes even divided by 4. The specific requirements and ‘punishments’ differ per coaster type
If you're interested, Marcel Vos has done this exact challenge and it is doable. Also, Im pretty sure the rollercoasters unlock in a specific list, not randomly.
Research is one big list of what will be unlocked. You can control it by not selecting a research option. And say you only put research towards Roller Coaster, there's a specific list it will follow. So yes, it's not random.
Honestly when I saw this, my first thought was "he watched a Marcel Vos video and decided to replicate it", but it became increasingly clear he lacked some of the knowledge that would give him as the video went on. :P
This is one of my all-time favorite games (well, RCT 1 is). The fact that you're playing them is genuinely the best thing. I can't speak for anyone else but I will always watch these, no matter how silly they are.
The first two coasters and the Jr coaster are the epitome of "Any man can build a bridge, it takes an engineer to build a bridge that just barely stands."
Just reading the title, I thought this was a Marcel Vos video, because he does videos in Rollercoaster Tycoon 2 that pose _these exact sorts of questions._
I'd love to see another attempt at this!~ Grew up with these games!~ I remember spending months making a massive roller coaster in sandbox, that was like 300 mph at its slowest point, and it lasted like.... 12 and a half min for the ride. (Or might've been 100 mph... whichever the speed cap was, it hugged it) XD (There were no survivors beyond the station launch) But yeah, would also be a challenge to build these without deleting any parts too. Keep up the great work! (And looking forward to more of your Minecraft playthrough too, as well as more of this!)
Please do more! Just *maybe* do a bit of research before the next one so you aren't mostly in the dark. This game isn't exactly known for telling you where you went wrong or why. BUT, messing around is half, if not most of, the fun!
I like that you call us “fellow engineers” at the beginning. I’m in my last year of electrical engineering school and I’m afraid I won’t be able to find a job. You calling me a fellow engineer makes me feel like you believe in me.
I feel like this would have gone much smoother if all the loans weren't taken out at the start, that loan interest kills! So close to success tho, interesting and fun video, love the roller coaster tycoon videos! ❤
Funny how we came up with the same solution. When I was younger I loved this game so much. And I would boost them with barrels! Also tunnels and going underground for more excitement! Much love dude!
The reason the stand up one has a low excitement is because of the red vertical g’s. Any red number lowers the other values, a lower speed to lower the g’s may have made the difference
Excessive vertical G doesn't reduce excitement, only increase intensity. Excessive lateral Gs are the ones that give big penalties. Stand up coasters have naturally shit stats, though.
@@polygondwanaland8390 To be clear, the extra intensity from excessive vertical G's only comes from the fact that you have a lot of G's. There is no penalty. 10 positive vertical G's gives twice the intensity that 5 positive G's gives.
The looping coaster is also the strongest shape! Also I haven't played the game in ages, but could you build on the higher areas to get free momentum to not need as much chain lift for speed?
I love this sort of challenge video. It really breathes life into games. I hope this does well so we can see more of this from you. I think this experimental style works well but I would watch you try this again learning from the comments and perhaps after a little research.
Hey, RCE! I've been recently getting back into a game that I love and feel you would enjoy called "TerraTech". Would be interesting to see at least a couple episodes from you!
10 coasters with excitement rating 6.0 is pretty easy. For anything with a powered launch mode you can just do a simple shuttle loop design and stick next to another powered launch mode coaster and put them in synchronized station mode. Synchronized station mode gives an excitement boost as well as the excitement boost of having nearby rides. Open RCT changed synchronized station mode so that stations can be a couple tiles apart which makes placing you entrances, exists, and paths easier. Scenery and paths add excitement. An easy excitement boost is just to build a path over the station. Also doing multiple circuits raises the excitement because your raising the ride time. Every track ride has a set of secret minimum requirements that must be met or the stats will be cut in half for each condition you fail to meet. (so missing 3 conditions would be 1/8 penalty). It's usually something simple like have a drop of x meters, have a top speed of atleast xm/s, have x inversions, have x vert/lat Gs, or be atleast x meters long.
In the future if you weave the roller-coasters in and out of each other, like make a loop and thread another coaster through the loop, it will increase the excitement.
You should have used those big terrain blocks to your advantage - put the stations at the top & massively reduce the amount of chained track you need. Drop the track off the edge straight away & just have a bit of chain at the end to get back up. Also, you can get all kinds of free bonus excitement by having them weaving through both themselves and the other coasters. I'd bet you only needed to research a couple of new coaster types to achieve your target.
Some rides have certain requirements that need to be filled. E.G. that rollercoaster that had 3 exitement despite neighbor having 6 might have had other requirements=stats/2
launch coasters, returning to the start after too high of a hill, and having 10 of them linked together, was fun to build as a kid, and was rather cost effective, too. i always had an issue of making them too extrema, and getting more than 10g around some of mu corners... launch coasters kept my parks open :P
No apparently he just tried to claim credit for it as obviously I stole the idea from him because only he is the only person capable of coming up with this challenge (that I came up with when I was just 14 years old...). Bit of an architect that bloke sadly! 😅
I just thought of what might be the coolest coaster ever if only a true engineer would tackle the challenge. Build a hanging coaster and a traditional coaster the run parallel to each other. The tracks and cars opposite each other and taking the same path.
Spiff definitely does his research before making a video. Matt looks like he's vaguely remembering what someone like Marcel Vos said, whereas Spiff would have written down every ride requirement before making the video.
Edit: scrap my comment below, you're not a very nice bloke leaving comments calling my video clickbait. Defo won't be watching your content in the future, I'd suggest you ignore mine too rather than leaving negative comments. Thanks. Hey, just watched your video on this- great job! Turns out there's a lot of small details you go over that I never learned or even considered until now so thanks for that, definitely have yourself a new viewer!
Tip: the corksreaw coaster can have the best 3 piece design. 2 stations, one half sreaw and a lunched start with the weakest setting. Now you have the smallest coaster design yet it will beat some of yours.
This challenge (Razor Rock without opening the park) cannot use a tiny corkscrew because it has only 4 excitement ratings. Others will be a park where guests prefer riding coasters with high-intensity ratings or a park where apply harder guests generation. However, I agree on you about that because that will help a lots to generate income.
@@thatchaphonkaeosuriya8085 This isnt the perfect ride for every szenario, buit my original point is still: This 3 piece design has still some better stats than some of his coaster designs. But he doest know the stat requierements of these coasters. :D
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Matt, I think your main pain here was not meeting the requirements for each coaster. Different coasters require different things to be present to get their full excitement; not meeting the requirements usually halves the excitement rating (and intensity and nausea, weirdly). For example, you can meet the requirements for a corkscrew coaster with just one half of a corkscrew, but you need a big drop for a hypercoaster. This is true of all tracked rides as well, not just coasters.
Pretty sure that was what was happening with your launched coaster pair. One of them met it's requirements, the other didn't. So even though they were identical, one had 6 excitement and the other had around 3. Because it's stats were halved!
the corkscrew is the best coaster to cheese scenarios with. You just put it in powered launch at lowest speed and have it do 2 station segments onto a half corkscrew. It cost around 700 dollars to build. The stats are good enough to charge around 7 dollars a ride and adds i think 165 to the guest soft cap.
It's honestly a real challenge to get 6 excitement on a Stand-Up coaster even if you don't fail to meet the requirements. It's a super bad ride type for something like this.
It also had red figures which explained why it was at 3 excitement
Not 100% sure, but if I'm remembering correctly, you can build coasters in those rock faces, and the coaster uses the rock as support... that way, coaster pieces don't cost as much, and you get great excitement value going in and out of rocks! Would love to see you try again! 😁
I was wondering if that was a possibility or if Matt was just....missing a trick.
I always try to go trough any looping i build aswell. + you can build pathways over your rails to boost exitement aswell
Its because of ‘stat requirements’. Basically every coaster has certain requirements and if not met the ratings are sometimes halved, sometimes even divided by 4. The specific requirements and ‘punishments’ differ per coaster type
also, Lateral Gs were in the red for that last coster he built.
If you're interested, Marcel Vos has done this exact challenge and it is doable. Also, Im pretty sure the rollercoasters unlock in a specific list, not randomly.
Research is one big list of what will be unlocked. You can control it by not selecting a research option. And say you only put research towards Roller Coaster, there's a specific list it will follow. So yes, it's not random.
I commented to watch a Marcel Vos vid then went through the comments, I should have looked first lol
Honestly when I saw this, my first thought was "he watched a Marcel Vos video and decided to replicate it", but it became increasingly clear he lacked some of the knowledge that would give him as the video went on. :P
This is one of my all-time favorite games (well, RCT 1 is). The fact that you're playing them is genuinely the best thing. I can't speak for anyone else but I will always watch these, no matter how silly they are.
The first two coasters and the Jr coaster are the epitome of "Any man can build a bridge, it takes an engineer to build a bridge that just barely stands."
Just reading the title, I thought this was a Marcel Vos video, because he does videos in Rollercoaster Tycoon 2 that pose _these exact sorts of questions._
Ha same
I know, same here. Maybe Marcel can teach RCE here some new tricks.
@@FiveDallaHalla he can. Lets hope RCE can teach Marcel some public speaking tricks.
Both great for different reasons
Same
CAME HERE FOR LORD MARCEL VOS SHOUTOUT. LEAVING HAPPY.
This game has aged so well. It looks so good!!
it looks like pixels puked on the screen
I'd love to see another attempt at this!~
Grew up with these games!~
I remember spending months making a massive roller coaster in sandbox, that was like 300 mph at its slowest point, and it lasted like.... 12 and a half min for the ride. (Or might've been 100 mph... whichever the speed cap was, it hugged it)
XD
(There were no survivors beyond the station launch)
But yeah, would also be a challenge to build these without deleting any parts too.
Keep up the great work!
(And looking forward to more of your Minecraft playthrough too, as well as more of this!)
Please do more!
Just *maybe* do a bit of research before the next one so you aren't mostly in the dark.
This game isn't exactly known for telling you where you went wrong or why.
BUT, messing around is half, if not most of, the fun!
Day 8 of asking RCE to make a Satisfactory series.
This!
I would LOVE to see him do that. I think it would be hilarious.
*Cough* attention seeking *cough*
I believe there is a Satisfactory stream video on RCE's Archive channel.
Day 2 of YES
I like that you call us “fellow engineers” at the beginning. I’m in my last year of electrical engineering school and I’m afraid I won’t be able to find a job. You calling me a fellow engineer makes me feel like you believe in me.
I'm also in my last year for electrical engineering! I believe in you!
I feel like this would have gone much smoother if all the loans weren't taken out at the start, that loan interest kills! So close to success tho, interesting and fun video, love the roller coaster tycoon videos! ❤
"Why's there a picture of RCE in the thumbnail of this Marcel Vos video?"
"...wait"
Side friction coaster: *crashes
10:14 Matt: Alright, so this coaster hates going up hills.
Me: You don't say! 🤣🤣🤣
Funny how we came up with the same solution. When I was younger I loved this game so much. And I would boost them with barrels! Also tunnels and going underground for more excitement! Much love dude!
Yeah this was probably my most played game growing up, great fun!
The reason the stand up one has a low excitement is because of the red vertical g’s. Any red number lowers the other values, a lower speed to lower the g’s may have made the difference
Excessive vertical G doesn't reduce excitement, only increase intensity. Excessive lateral Gs are the ones that give big penalties. Stand up coasters have naturally shit stats, though.
@@polygondwanaland8390 To be clear, the extra intensity from excessive vertical G's only comes from the fact that you have a lot of G's. There is no penalty. 10 positive vertical G's gives twice the intensity that 5 positive G's gives.
The looping coaster is also the strongest shape!
Also I haven't played the game in ages, but could you build on the higher areas to get free momentum to not need as much chain lift for speed?
1:30.
Hey, if we had _that_ Darkness, I wouldn't be complaining...
Hey Matt the researched coasters are not unlocked randomly. Each scenario has a specific order that they unlock in.
Without opening? Peak efficiency!
I retract the peak efficiency after completing the video, I believed in you!
Parkitect when? I am just looking forward to Matt making architect jokes about the game title itself!
I love this sort of challenge video. It really breathes life into games. I hope this does well so we can see more of this from you.
I think this experimental style works well but I would watch you try this again learning from the comments and perhaps after a little research.
Hey, RCE! I've been recently getting back into a game that I love and feel you would enjoy called "TerraTech". Would be interesting to see at least a couple episodes from you!
This sounds like a nice challenge for Marcel Vos, it’s right up his alley!
10 coasters with excitement rating 6.0 is pretty easy. For anything with a powered launch mode you can just do a simple shuttle loop design and stick next to another powered launch mode coaster and put them in synchronized station mode. Synchronized station mode gives an excitement boost as well as the excitement boost of having nearby rides. Open RCT changed synchronized station mode so that stations can be a couple tiles apart which makes placing you entrances, exists, and paths easier.
Scenery and paths add excitement. An easy excitement boost is just to build a path over the station. Also doing multiple circuits raises the excitement because your raising the ride time.
Every track ride has a set of secret minimum requirements that must be met or the stats will be cut in half for each condition you fail to meet. (so missing 3 conditions would be 1/8 penalty). It's usually something simple like have a drop of x meters, have a top speed of atleast xm/s, have x inversions, have x vert/lat Gs, or be atleast x meters long.
In the future if you weave the roller-coasters in and out of each other, like make a loop and thread another coaster through the loop, it will increase the excitement.
You should have used those big terrain blocks to your advantage - put the stations at the top & massively reduce the amount of chained track you need. Drop the track off the edge straight away & just have a bit of chain at the end to get back up.
Also, you can get all kinds of free bonus excitement by having them weaving through both themselves and the other coasters. I'd bet you only needed to research a couple of new coaster types to achieve your target.
RCE actually stands for Roller Coaster Engineer😳
WHAT IS THAT THEME MUSIC NEAR 10MINS IN?!?!?! ive had that jingle stuck in my head for years!!!!!
“I wasn’t sure about this ride, but when I saw the 12 barrels I just knew it was good”
Matt accidentally creating a money maker speedrun coaster and an actual real life coaster is great.
8 is pretty impressive. I think with a bit of planning, if you tried again you could definitely do it, Matt.
RCE is slowly moving closer and closer to playing games the wrong way, just like Josh from let's game it out
Josh is king at playing games the wrong way haha
Some rides have certain requirements that need to be filled. E.G. that rollercoaster that had 3 exitement despite neighbor having 6 might have had other requirements=stats/2
launch coasters, returning to the start after too high of a hill, and having 10 of them linked together, was fun to build as a kid, and was rather cost effective, too. i always had an issue of making them too extrema, and getting more than 10g around some of mu corners... launch coasters kept my parks open :P
Without opening the park?
I think that's called tax fraud.
This game and theme hospital give me some good memories
Matt, you trying to combine the powers of Josh and spiffing brit here
10:02 really gave me that top gear vibe
Marcel Vos would be proud of you^^
No apparently he just tried to claim credit for it as obviously I stole the idea from him because only he is the only person capable of coming up with this challenge (that I came up with when I was just 14 years old...). Bit of an architect that bloke sadly! 😅
you could have build the coasters, saved them, and build them in another try, therefore saving money on trial and error as well as interest.
Feels like someone has been watching Marcel Vos. Either way it was nice to see you attempt the same challenge.
I commented the same thing and they both responded saying he actually didn't copy it, so guess we were both wrong 😳
@@DuckInGameStop Meh, well like I said I enjoyed his attempt and there is a bunch he can learn from that channel.
Spiffing Brit is that you?
I just thought of what might be the coolest coaster ever if only a true engineer would tackle the challenge. Build a hanging coaster and a traditional coaster the run parallel to each other. The tracks and cars opposite each other and taking the same path.
As a min-max idea since you need to have time running for research, probably take the loan out in increments so the interest is a bit lower overall.
literally the SECOND game youve influenced me to actually buy and play lol
"You've failed me for the last time..."
This game makes me think of an old friend . Staying up all night in the computer room . Playing this and red alert
I would love to see you try this again
My girlfriend says the same thing..."4.67 well thats no good, 6.37 thats a little better"
Its gotta be the barrels
Love this!! I would be happy if you chose to play more RCT2 :) thank you for the entertainment
Better see a redo of this where Matt crushes it properly
Could this be a challenge for The Spiffing Brit?
Could you have built tracks over the tall rocks, saving money on height and making the ride more exciting?
Absolutely love the thumbnail
This was good. He probably could have succeeded if he put them all in a line and sync them all together.
Are you becoming the Spiffing Brit? This title is making me think I’m watching the wrong channel lol
Here we go!
Stand-up coaster + high positive vertical G = torture device
0:36 That's a weird way to say RAIDSHADOWLEGENDS...
Aaaaa another video , they never gets old
18:21 strongest shape spotted
Really should challenge the spiffing brit to see if he could figure this out
Spiff definitely does his research before making a video. Matt looks like he's vaguely remembering what someone like Marcel Vos said, whereas Spiff would have written down every ride requirement before making the video.
Next time don't take the loans out at start, but only as you need the money. That way the interest isn't as painful.
The airpowered coaster is pretty good, even without a hill. Not sure if the excitement is over 6 tho…
Oh the nostalgia with this game! ❤️
This feels familiar...
Edit: scrap my comment below, you're not a very nice bloke leaving comments calling my video clickbait. Defo won't be watching your content in the future, I'd suggest you ignore mine too rather than leaving negative comments. Thanks.
Hey, just watched your video on this- great job! Turns out there's a lot of small details you go over that I never learned or even considered until now so thanks for that, definitely have yourself a new viewer!
RCE's making rollercoasters, wonder what shape he'll make them in....
Ah, see that's why he failed, no strongest shape coasters.
When's a collab with The Spiffing Brit?
Look into Marcel Vos, he has already did this exact video.
Roller Coaster Tycoon 2 well I think we all know what this means time to torture some architects
one of them coaster you could call Passout 😁
This game seems perfectly balanced
Nice vid mate, watch a Marcel Vos vid (he’s a beast at the game knows bloody everything about everything) and try again I’m sure you would smash it
Love your videos man keep it up
@RCE You said that utilising terrain would keep your costs down, can you not use the brown mountains??
You can, or you could tunnel through them for an excitement bonus
I came up with the E by accident, never seen someone doing it before, and then i saw other people reacting E too WHAT
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universal studios presents TRANSPORTER, starring....adjacent station.
(jason statham)
The Spiffing Matt ;P
I'd recommend Marcel Vos on UA-cam for RCT information.
I support a revisit of this
Anyone remember Theme Park? I played that bastard to infinity
I LOVE RCT !!!!
Yes try again! ❤🔥
Someone has been paying attention to Marcel Vos's videos!
You can't fail in a video, unless... You plan a follow-up success video. 🤔🤔🤫🤫🤫🤫
What as Rce done!!!
this is the opposite of what its supposed to be done. Reverse Engineering!
Tip: the corksreaw coaster can have the best 3 piece design. 2 stations, one half sreaw and a lunched start with the weakest setting. Now you have the smallest coaster design yet it will beat some of yours.
This challenge (Razor Rock without opening the park) cannot use a tiny corkscrew because it has only 4 excitement ratings. Others will be a park where guests prefer riding coasters with high-intensity ratings or a park where apply harder guests generation. However, I agree on you about that because that will help a lots to generate income.
@@thatchaphonkaeosuriya8085 This isnt the perfect ride for every szenario, buit my original point is still: This 3 piece design has still some better stats than some of his coaster designs. But he doest know the stat requierements of these coasters. :D
Love roller coaster 2 I still play these game
Try World of Goo. It is older game , but good
When i saw the title I thought it was an Ambiguous Amphibian video
Wouldnt it have helped as well to not take the loan until you ran out of money originally? Then the debt wouldnt have eaten away as quickly.
you sir are a tycoon god
Marcel’s voice is sounding weird today.
I was waiting u to make video about u create a clan in pocket ants so i can join
You were the one that made me want to be architect not an engineer btw love your vids
Oh the memories