Invasions, Naval Battles and German Raiders - WW1 in the Pacific I THE GREAT WAR Special
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- Опубліковано 26 лис 2017
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One of the theatres of war that’s often overlooked, the Pacific saw some of the earliest military actions of the Great War. On top of this, there were many naval engagements in this particular ocean, including some famous German merchant raiders. We cover all this and more in today’s special episode.
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The fact that in the modern environment of WWI, in 20th century, a SAILING ship managed to evade the blockade, remained at large in hostile oceans for more than seven months, and sank some 14 ships is just incredible.
BF1 missed some really cool maps and ideas for the "Turning Tides" DLC set in the Pacific.
ReconPro BF1 is pretty bad, play Verdun instead
Bf1 in general was a "Missed opportunity"
I always wonder, is there enough players in the Verdun servers in America?
David Battlefield 1 is better if you want the "popcorn" version of world war 1
ReconPro you are right. Germans v. Japanese in Tsingtao and Germans v. Aussies in New Guinea would've been fun. Japanese aircraft carrier as behemoth
A few Samoans served in the Maori Battalion of New Zealand i know being a German Samoan
There is a lot more to be told about the German raiders WOLF and SEEADLER. In the high-tech world of The Great War, with machine guns, tanks, airships poison gas, and so on...a sailing ship? And SEADLER was stopped and boarded by the British Blockade fleet, but passed itself off as a Norwegian ship with a cargo of timber. And the WOLF laid mines that sank more ships then its guns. It might be nice to have separate future episodes on these two ships. Not quite privateers, but with the same spirit.
”It was during a marticulation exam on history, when i decided to pray for the god emperor Indiana Nidell for help. The white-grey roof of the school hall darkened, and the very foundations of the school building were shook for a moment. A havenly voice echoed like a batrery of 21cm siege artillery guns. ”Unfortunately, that is outside the scope of this channel” The exam was almost all about the cold war. Sad!” (The bible of great war, the book of indy 1-9)
Your comment made my day!
Laughing my head off!
Elmeri kämäri This comment made my day. BTW he actually made a series about the cold war on his other channel "It's History" and it's very interesting.
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You’re an American hero 🤟🙌
Every time there is an episode concerning the merchant raiders we get to hear ever more outrageous stories of crazy daring and adventure. I thought myself educated on the matter, but I keep getting impressed. It's like reading stories of romantic pirates, only this time it's bloody real.
Just you wait for the special on the Wolf. Hoooo boy!
WAIT, so Detzner was basically the Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck of the Pacific? Dang! I've heard about WWII Japanese holdouts who fought the Allies long after the war had ended, but I had no idea they had counterparts in WWI Germany.
This channel is Amazing
Hermann Detzner needs a special now.
I was hopping you would talk about the Polynesians and New Caledonians who fought in the French Army, in the "Bataillon du Pacifique".
Crazy. A more recent conflict was huge for pacific battles (wwii obviously) guess I didn’t realize how big the scale of this war was.
My grandma always told me that the Second World War was just a continuation of the first. Just unresolved conflicts. I can see it.
Russell Lee yeah totally brother :)
Is that a picture of Mussolini?
(Kidding)
Smart Grandma, this school of thought is really gaining momentum.
Redbad of Frisia holy Hannah. Are you referencing one of my previous comments? Lmao did you see that shit? Family kept asking me why I support fascism lol. Dumbasses.
CAPTAINMIIDGET really. I didn’t know that. Kinda makes sense tho when you think about, eh? Germany gets fucked in wwi wants a new Empire. Boom. nazis. Way more complex than that but you get the point.
Hermann Detzner is the Von Lettow Vorbeck of the Pacific
Yeah, they both overplayed the importance of their actions after the war.
Still impressive that they held out that long though without supplies or assistance.
You made Detzner 20 years older than he actually was. I was already wondering that he got so old.
It's incredible that they were still using sailing ships like the See Adler.
The Adler is a training ship isnt it>
You didn't mention that after the war Woodrow Wilson wanted to give all of the Pacific territory to Japan....only the intervention of the Australian prime minister Billy Hughes stopped this from happening.
A handmade sexton and a copied school book atlas map. I mean, wow.
IKR, I was like, "This guy, he knows that this is going down in history." Sad his journey ended short, would of been epic to see him use that and go far and wide.
Really glad you guys are going to do a special on von Luckner and the See Adler... one of my favourite books growing up and probably the one that got me most interested in WWI was “The Great War” by Edward Jablonski which has a bunch of stories about WWI written in a way that even a child can appreciate the horrors and glory of war with out getting too dry or gruesome.
it would be awesome to see a pacific campaign in battlefield 1
say what you will but those german buccaneers were pretty badass haha
To The Great War, my curiosity is bursting and I must ask: How is it that you find all the photos and even footage that you do? Such perfectly specific and relevant photos; it seems like you are always able to find exactly what you need! I did a project over WWI for my history class last year and it was so hard to find photos of exactly the region or battle or event I tried covering XP
There was the strange case of 2 Afgan ex-camel drivers in western NSW who heard the ottoman call to arms who hijacked a train and create mayhem. After some casualties they were I believe were killed. This I think was the first Australian shots fired.
Both WW1 and 2 were the nastiest window of our modern society. There was so much turmoil and unrest all across Eastern Europe and Asia.
Hey guys running the show, I've got a suggestion! It would be interesting, to say the least, to have an episode or two for the users who watch this channel, to share about their ancestors role in the world war 1, if that's possible. I mention this because Brazil has a lot of italian immigrants, most of them from ~1860, but some of them also came during and after the world wars. Just an idea. I'll post this on the subreddit too.
Kepp up the great work guys!
It's amazing that there was a sailing ship capturing and sinking enemy ships during WWI. I look forward to the special.
I hadn't read the comments so don't know if anyone else has pointed that out but Admiral von Spee died in 1914 not 1945 as in the graphic.
Lt. Detzner's is incorrect also.
I love you guys' program, I just pointed out because I know you'd want it to be correct. My sources are Wikipedia.
If you can’t get enough of Indy, remember to check out his other channel TimeGhost where he covers the Cuban missile crisis!
Why is Von spee 1861-1945? He died in 1914 didn’t he?
yup he did
They probably put there the sinking of Graf Spee instead of his death
for all we know he might still be raiding
That our dear fan happens when you use the Adobe Premiere title tool wrong.
Also Detzner born in 1882 not 1862
Nice vid guys! I have really been waiting for this...
Destabilisation plans for Australia had a major flaw. HMAS Australia(1:27) a battlecruiser that out gunned Spee's ships. It is argued that the presence of HMAS Australia led to Spee heading else where. It wasn't the Royal Navy it was the Royal Australian Navy which dominated the area.
Germans always pulled something interesting off no matter how the odds overall, wish we had some of this spirit left today.
Huh didn’t know about this, great stuff as always Indy!
There was two French Polynesian battalions that fought for the French in Europe. Robert Gebauer a German Samoan had fought on the eastern front. He was captured but escaped when he learned how to speak Russian fluently. He escaped back into East Prussia and lived in Hamburg before returning to Samoa later after the war. The Gebauer family of German Samoa saw many of their sons serving in the Kaiserliche Marine. Anyways, Im so glad you guys finally got around to doing this episode. Ive been asking about it for over a year now. Cheers!
Our pleasure.
@@TheGreatWar hey, maybe you noticed it but you wrote in the video that Hermann Detzner was born in 1862. I was already impressed because then he would have lived until 108 years of age, but then i looked him up and he was born on 16. Oktober 1882 in Speyer, Germany. I love your videos by the way, great work, greetings from germany.
Looking forward to the video on Felix von Luckner.
basically the german version of
pirates of the caribbean
How do you say "Savvy" in german?
More like Pirates of the Pacific (Germany v Britain and Japan)
2:28 Herman Detzer (1862-1970) holy shit this guy must have seen alot in his life.
Born 1882?
then someone made a small mistake
Still from when balloons were cutting edge to landing on the moon in one lifetime. Horse drawn carriages to nuclear submarines and space stations. That is a lot to take in.
YES! Can't wait for the special about SMS Wolf- one of the most epic warship voyages of them all, with minelaying, disguises, stockholm syndrome and elicit affairs with the enemy... all on one ship! There's a great book about it out there somewhere
Learning something new everytime.
Excellent piece.
2:29 Hermann Detzner was born in 1882 not 1862*
Hi The Great War awesome staff, you may have already noticed it but you made a typo at 0:58 in the when you showed the little profile of Maximilian Von Spee, and put his life-time as (1861-1945), when he actually died December 14, 1914. It is just a simple typo and isn't a big deal but I just thought I would let you know in case this has gone unnoticed. I checked the comments to see if someone else had mentioned it but since I saw no-one I thought I would speak up, although perhaps I just didn't look far enough. Regardless I need to get back to studying for my WWI final which is in 14 hours. Hope you all have a lovely day and keep up the amazing work with the channel, thank you, you have taught me so much.
thanks. we definitely got it right in the episodes about him at least.
A very nicely informative video. Great job.
Damn, the German Pacific squadron and their ships/raiders have some legendary tales.
YAY!!!!! my request for a special on the pacific region has been answered
WoW, looking forward for that special episode about German raiders in the Pacific! And I thought the age of privateers was long gone, couldn't help myself, but to burst into laughter. XD
Just watched the old videos ..
Now im addicted..
i already said it befores, but i love your work guys, amazing youtube channel. Thank you!!
I read a book about the voyage of the Wolf - an incredible, fascinating and little-known story of WW1.
A-MA-ZING ! you guys rock (as always)
Thank you .
Great to see New Zealand getting a mention again!
They said the British empire was the empire the sun never set on, in fact it was the empire the blood never dried on.
mike fox True
But it's true, the sun didn't set on the British empire (when it was around)
mike fox I saw a UA-cam video recently about 'maps you haven't seen' or something like that. One was a map of countries the British Empire hadn't fought in - there were only a handful, scattered about the globe.
~laughs ~
So apt.
Jugurtha33 Yeah, it's like Mongolia, Turkmenistan and Bolivia or something. British had their claws in every pie they could get.
Love your show
Cool video..
A little known story about the opening days of the Great War is the tale of the German merchant ship the SS Pflatz, a 6,500 ton cargo steamer owned by German shipping company Norddeutscher Lloyd.
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Just prior to the outbreak of war, the Pflatz had arrived in Melbourne via Port Phillip Bay. By 3 August, war had already been declared by the Central Powers against Russia and France, but Britain and it's Empire had yet to declared war on Germany. With the likelihood of war with Britain becoming a near certainty, telegrams were sent to German ships to leave British Commonwealth ports.
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The SS Pflatz, still docked in Melbourne was one of those ships. It managed to depart Williamstown Docks in Melbourne early on 5 August a headed straight for the narrow entrance at Point Napean to leave Port Phillip Bay and hopefully avoid capture and acquisition by the Australian authorities. On its way to Point Napean, it was stopped by the SS Alvina, but was subsequently allow to continue. Shortly after however the defensive Naval Fortress Fort Napean, located obviously at Point Napean, received a telegram ordering it to stop or sink the Pflatz.
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Fort Napean had been built in the 1880's originally as a deterrent to Russian naval expansion in the Southern Pacific. In 1911, its armaments had received an upgrade of two Mk VII 6 inch long range naval guns.
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As the Pflatz approached the heads at Point Napean, Fort Napean signaled the Pflatz to stop. The signalling appeared to have no effect and the Pflatz continued to sail towards the heads. The garrison then turned its 6 inch naval guns towards the Pflatz and fired a warning shot across the bow of the Pflatz. Convinced that the next shot from Fort Napean would be at the Pflatz itself, the captain of the Pflatz ordered the ship halt and surrender. The Pflatz was taken to Portsea in Port Phillip Bay and upon arrival at the Portsea docks the German crew of the Pflatz were arrested.
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The firing of the Fort Napean 6 inch naval guns at the Pflatz on 5 August, 1914, was the first shot fired by Australia forces during the Great War and possibly the first shot fired by any British Empire forces in that same conflict.
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In 2013, Australian military enthusiasts who were also recreation divers made an unsuccessful attempt to locate the shell fired by Fort Napean at the Pflatz in order to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the Pflatz's attempted escape and Australia's entry into the Great War.
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Thanks for reading!
7:30
Indy: Click here for our special on *Japan.*
Subtitles: Click here for our *Guam* Special.
???
Foreshadowing.
Harry S. Plinkett yeah it says Guam and SMS instead of Japan and Japanese
Von Luckner was imprisoned at Fort Jervois on Ripapa Island in Lyttelton harbour at Christchurch which was built at the end of the 19th century to defend the port from the Russians. It is a beautiful area but a tiny island and he must have been bored out of his mind. I know a number of coastal defences in NZ (and elsewhere) were built during the Russian scare - did any other ones play a part in the war?
There is an error on the death year of Von spee. At the beginning we can read 1945 for his death year. He died on 1914
2:35 that IS AWESOME did he ever write an autobiography??
Hey could you guys explain the story of the german ship of Dresden that hid in Chile 🇨🇱.
Best show that exist
Thanks for the video. I knew about Germany in Africa, but wasn't aware of their actions in the South Pacific.
Man i love the intro
We need a movie about SMS Seeadler.
Looking forward to the special about the Seeadler.
How did they manage to catch up with and board steam ships with an old sailing ship?
Had not heard of Hermann Detzner before, but when the panel flashed by, I thought, "He lived to 108, seriously?" Wikipedia puts his birth date 20 years later.
This reminds me of the adventures of Corto Maltese
Me too ...balad of the salt sea
I remember a tale of a german ship that sailed straight through the channel, using light signals to tell the british that they were brits too and everything was cool. They made it through after some close calls and did some more shenanigans i think. Does anyone know what episode this was in or what the name of the ship was?
ua-cam.com/video/8Vpl8Hz1RDo/v-deo.html
Thanks bud
They weren't kidding about it being a world war.
I hope you can one day make a special episode on the Persian front.
cant wait for your video on the new ww1 video game Tannenburg
I have a question for the Great War, would it be possible or do you have any plans to do a bio special on Emperor Charles of Austria-Hungary at some point, and his role in the last two years of the war, with the army and in trying to achieve peace through the sixtus affair? Thank's, loving the show and keep up the smashing work that you're all doing, its splendid how you can make history so exciting and interesting for the masses. Much appreciated.
I know German Empire bought some of the Pacific Islands from the Kingdom of Spain in 1899, a year after the Spanish-American.
ooh! ooh! will you do a special on Liberia?
There was also the Battle of Penang in which the Emden sank a Russian cruiser and French destroyer. Its more of a skirmish and raid rather than outright battle.
How fortunate to have been stationed in the South Pacific, and not have to try to survive in a muddy shell crater in Flanders.
The Seeadler story is far more interesting than any of the hollywood re-makes that they insist on putting out.
Hello Indy! Would be cool to see an episode dedicated to some of the things that kept other nations out of the war such as the very modern fortress built by Sweden in Boden which at the time is known to have kept larger powers from invading due to the difficulty of securing it. Of course other factors are at play but it is interesting to see these almost larger than life structures at work and what they did for a country, very easy to forget or look past if your country actually managed to avoid the war.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boden_Fortress
I didn't even no that my kiwi grandfathers went toSamoa, I though we got sent straight to Europe/Middle East lol. I always learn something from your vids keep it up
Make a Video about the Nepalese during the World war .
Interconnected world we have, I learn about an author living in the same town/country as me via a broadcast from Berlin. Very likely to buy the book too!
Glad to be of service.
Could you maybe do a full video on the Wolf . A German mine ship that sailed across the whole world
4:22 dutch van der linde wouldn’t be too happy to hear that
Imagine that some Americans arguing with me that there was no pacific theater in ww1 xD
Clubmaster? Malcolm X glasses, or drugstore frames, now an ikon of "Square".
Please do more videos on the great war in the colonies
Any chance you can talk about the race riot in the US Army in Texas during 1917
that book about New Zealand in the war was done by one of my lecturers who I had last year
Mathew Harty IKR, tis a very small world. I'm also in Wellington.
Murray Sutherland I'm up in Hamilton at waikato he came up for a semester last year
Where do you get your film from? Is there a channel or website that has all this awesome looking film?
Otto Von Bismark Von Preußen If you mean video material then they get it mostly from British Pathe! They have yt channel so you can watch alot of stuff there!
awesome thanks! something about this black and white film and the terrible audio is awesome to me
Otto Von Bismark Von Preußen Tbh most of the sound you hear was added later!
Hermann Detzner lived from 1862 to 1970? That would have made him 108 years old if true.
Australians, getting into drunken brawls? Never!
I’m from that place
Wasn't Detzner born in 1882 not 1862?
What happened to the old set up and background,lighting Indy ?
If you guys have time will you guys review the trailers they release for the new dlc maybe future?
I would love to see Indy doing the same project about American civil war.So many intriguing characters.
Already been done by Ken Burns, it is really worth watching
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Civil_War_(miniseries)
ua-cam.com/video/Y7HmBmWz9mI/v-deo.html
civilwarpodcast.org/ if you want to listen to a great podcast on the american civil war
I have seen it.As you said it is really worth .Thanks mate .
Another doc i liked is Confederate Minutes
Handmade sextant? (Spelling?) Stealing a ship? Lets hear more about this guy!
Little Mistake going on there. Detzner was born in 1882.
But I still love the show. :-)
Hey indy love the show. You may have already talked about this in a previous video but what role if any did the catholic church and the pope play during the war if any? Thanks!
3:40 mistake; left part of Australia's claim area was and stayed Dutch East Indies...
What sort of Kukri is that Lindy? Where can I get one?
0:58 Von Spee died in 1914 at the Battle of the Falklands not 1945
ON 0:58, his death is 1945, but should be 1914