Glad the video was helpful. I get totally confused by how this thing works every few years when I have to take it apart. At least I have this video now to remind myself how it works. I actually need to take mine apart again as the threads for the clamp bolt have worn out and I need to put a thread insert in there. Stay tuned for that video.
Thank you Brother, it works, my bandsaw is perfect again. I am from Toronto. Were you close by I would definitely buy you a couple of beers. Thanks again. Peace ✌️
Thanks man, I was cutting some 10# 12" I-beam and thought I broke my vise when I noticed it wasn't locking. Now I see the threads were just caked with shavings
It's usually the half threads inside the round cast iron part that get gunked up or the spring loaded pin gets a bit sticky. Easy enough to get a little right angle pick and clean out the threads (usually a waxy deposit in the root of the threads) and then free up the pin. Then the key is getting it back together in the proper orientation. Be sure to take a look at how yours is set up before taking it apart.
Thank you very much for posting this. There are a few different types of "Quick Vise" mechanisms, but I have not seen this type before. It looks like the best one I have seen. I would like to build one for my saw, and I think many people would like to as well. If you could make a simple sketch of it and post it, I think that would be very helpful and of interest to many. Thank you very much
There's a decent sketch on the Grizzly parts diagram page: www.grizzly.com/products/g0561/parts You can also order the individual parts for that quick vise.
Yes, usually have to tear into mine every year or two and fix this up. It really helps now that I figured out how it actually works with the video camera shoved down underneath the cutting deck.
Thank you for the advice. Got an old bandsaw at work back up and running after years of sitting in the corner. My only problem was this. For the life of me I couldn't figure it out. Some one did have the middle piece upside down and currently still is in that position. Cant wait to go flip it around and have her running 100%! Thanks again!
Thanks, I just fixed my vice after not working for years. I had bought the half nut to fix it but didn't need it. The thread cleaning was what it needed. Putting back together took three tries until I came back to your video to see the orientation of the halfnut. This was an amazing time waster for me, looking for clamps to hold the vice jaws closed.
Thanks for the video. Just aquirred a horizontal saw for cheap. Its in need of a bit of a tune up. The last owners had the acne nut jerry rigged with some added dowel pin. Had no quick release function. Threw me thru a loop. Tried all different ways to install it to get it to work, based on how I took it apart. Nope def wrong. Now seeing at how it's correctly oriented, I got it fixed up right. Again thanks super helpful
Great result, glad the video helped. I always seemed to mess up installing these parts. It was only after I stuck the video camera underneath to see how the mechanism actually worked that I now know how they are supposed to go.
The pin with the spring causes friction pressure to spin the mechanism. The tab engages the threads. My tab wore down so I brazed a mm or so of rod on it and ground it smooth.
just drug my bandsaw about 50 meters in the grass cause the power in the workshop was out and had to get to power. Now the problem I am having is that the quick vise isn't releasing and being very difficult to rotate the handle. I guess time to take things apart and clean things up. Thanks for all the knowledge and pics. I doubt I bent the cast iron table bad enough to bind up the acme screw.
I would check the handle itself, might be cocked on the acme screw or slid in too far. Easy enough to loosen the set screw and pull it back a little and see if that helps.
Yes, that hand wheel is a bit touchy. Too tight or close to the table and it'll bind up. Too loose and the vise is harder to clamp down and loosen as there's too much back-forth play in the Acme screw.
OK when I took the moveable Jaw apart a few weeks ago, everything was OK but that carrier/nut piece that the moveable jaw screws into. What happens is that when the nut is all the way by the handle the rectangular part of that nut that goes in the slot is flush with the top of the table casting. When that nut is all the way by the fixed jaw then the rectangular part in the slot is about .06" below the table surface. Basically, if I tighten down the moveable jaw to the carrier/nut it clamps on the table casting. I am reluctant to put a shim in there because if I move the jaw all the way to the end of the table then it will be above the table. Have any suggestions? Thanks for guiding me so far.
Hard to say for sure. On mine, it's the same height all the way along the slot. Perhaps the table was not milled flat, or the underside of the slot has been worn unevenly. Suppose you could check the depth of the slot in a few places and see if it's consistent or not.
@@The4Crawler the video from underneath showing the acme nut engage was so helpful in understanding the function. Cleaned the threads and it clamps nice and tight again!
Yes, once you get it cleaned up and lubricated, it does work quite well. When you look at the parts, they are so loose that you think they are worn out. Yet, it's that very looseness that is the key to the whole system working properly.
I’ve got a problem with mine where the vice doesn’t tighten up it just keeps turning. I’ve had it in bits and nothing is worn out or broken, it’s only a couple of years old too, I’ve tried cleaning it all as well. Any suggestions for a fix?
Make sure the half nut is on in the proper orientation. One way to check if it's on backwards is to put some hand pressure on the movable jaw (push it towards the fixed jaw) and then try cranking the hand wheel out. If the movable jaw starts opening with pressure applied, the half nut is on backwards. Likewise, check that the little pin is able to move and that the spring is able to push it inwards if you push the pin out.
Should not be too hard to make a replacement for that. See if you can find a piece of thin steel that's springy enough, something like stainless steel sheet metal.
Brilliant video for your small bandsaw and how vice mechanism works Very helpful to me trying to sort my 1018 or BS 250.The difference being the half thread is on the opposite side to yours.meaning the moving piece is positioned so the pin is facing away from the hand wheel.Mine now works perfectly thanks. to your video. dave@reconworkshop.com. UK
Thanks a lot. Can't figure out myself how that mechanism work. Great help.
Glad the video was helpful. I get totally confused by how this thing works every few years when I have to take it apart. At least I have this video now to remind myself how it works. I actually need to take mine apart again as the threads for the clamp bolt have worn out and I need to put a thread insert in there. Stay tuned for that video.
Oh my heck I’ve been living with this stupid vise not clamping for over a decade. THANK YOU!!
Great, glad the video helped. It is something I have to do every few years.
Was on a production run and the vice stopped working and now i"m back at it. thanks so much man.
Glad I could help!
Thank you Brother, it works, my bandsaw is perfect again. I am from Toronto. Were you close by I would definitely buy you a couple of beers. Thanks again. Peace ✌️
Glad you got it working again. Mine is getting close to needing this done again.
Thanks man, I was cutting some 10# 12" I-beam and thought I broke my vise when I noticed it wasn't locking. Now I see the threads were just caked with shavings
Glad you were able to fix it!
Our horizontal at school is having a similar issue, now maybe I can fix it and be a hero, lol.
Good video thanks :)
It's usually the half threads inside the round cast iron part that get gunked up or the spring loaded pin gets a bit sticky. Easy enough to get a little right angle pick and clean out the threads (usually a waxy deposit in the root of the threads) and then free up the pin. Then the key is getting it back together in the proper orientation. Be sure to take a look at how yours is set up before taking it apart.
Thank you very much for posting this. There are a few different types of "Quick Vise" mechanisms, but I have not seen this type before. It looks like the best one I have seen.
I would like to build one for my saw, and I think many people would like to as well. If you could make a simple sketch of it and post it, I think that would be very helpful and of interest to many. Thank you very much
There's a decent sketch on the Grizzly parts diagram page:
www.grizzly.com/products/g0561/parts
You can also order the individual parts for that quick vise.
Unbelievable! I have been living with this problem forever... Thank you for working this out for me
Yes, usually have to tear into mine every year or two and fix this up. It really helps now that I figured out how it actually works with the video camera shoved down underneath the cutting deck.
Thank you for the advice. Got an old bandsaw at work back up and running after years of sitting in the corner. My only problem was this. For the life of me I couldn't figure it out. Some one did have the middle piece upside down and currently still is in that position. Cant wait to go flip it around and have her running 100%! Thanks again!
Yes, I've made that mistake, too. It seems that's that way it should work, but in reality, that's upside down and backwards!
Thanks, I just fixed my vice after not working for years. I had bought the half nut to fix it but didn't need it. The thread cleaning was what it needed. Putting back together took three tries until I came back to your video to see the orientation of the halfnut. This was an amazing time waster for me, looking for clamps to hold the vice jaws closed.
Great, glad you got it working. I still find that half nut to be confusing and come back to this video from time to time to refresh my memory.
Thanks for the video. Just aquirred a horizontal saw for cheap. Its in need of a bit of a tune up. The last owners had the acne nut jerry rigged with some added dowel pin. Had no quick release function. Threw me thru a loop. Tried all different ways to install it to get it to work, based on how I took it apart. Nope def wrong. Now seeing at how it's correctly oriented, I got it fixed up right. Again thanks super helpful
Great result, glad the video helped. I always seemed to mess up installing these parts. It was only after I stuck the video camera underneath to see how the mechanism actually worked that I now know how they are supposed to go.
Well done nice explanation thanks
The pin with the spring causes friction pressure to spin the mechanism. The tab engages the threads. My tab wore down so I brazed a mm or so of rod on it and ground it smooth.
Sounds like a good repair option. Mine is not worn down that far yet, but I'll keep that in mind.
just drug my bandsaw about 50 meters in the grass cause the power in the workshop was out and had to get to power. Now the problem I am having is that the quick vise isn't releasing and being very difficult to rotate the handle. I guess time to take things apart and clean things up. Thanks for all the knowledge and pics. I doubt I bent the cast iron table bad enough to bind up the acme screw.
I would check the handle itself, might be cocked on the acme screw or slid in too far. Easy enough to loosen the set screw and pull it back a little and see if that helps.
might have caused something to happen when grabbed saw by handle to move it on the dirt.
Yes, that hand wheel is a bit touchy. Too tight or close to the table and it'll bind up. Too loose and the vise is harder to clamp down and loosen as there's too much back-forth play in the Acme screw.
OK when I took the moveable Jaw apart a few weeks ago, everything was OK but that carrier/nut piece that the moveable jaw screws into. What happens is that when the nut is all the way by the handle the rectangular part of that nut that goes in the slot is flush with the top of the table casting. When that nut is all the way by the fixed jaw then the rectangular part in the slot is about .06" below the table surface. Basically, if I tighten down the moveable jaw to the carrier/nut it clamps on the table casting. I am reluctant to put a shim in there because if I move the jaw all the way to the end of the table then it will be above the table. Have any suggestions? Thanks for guiding me so far.
Hard to say for sure. On mine, it's the same height all the way along the slot. Perhaps the table was not milled flat, or the underside of the slot has been worn unevenly. Suppose you could check the depth of the slot in a few places and see if it's consistent or not.
Thank you very much for this video!!!!
Glad it was helpful!
@@The4Crawler the video from underneath showing the acme nut engage was so helpful in understanding the function. Cleaned the threads and it clamps nice and tight again!
@@j0917DW You and me both, until I saw the action of that half nut working, I never really understood how that thing worked.
looks nice and smooth operation
Yes, once you get it cleaned up and lubricated, it does work quite well. When you look at the parts, they are so loose that you think they are worn out. Yet, it's that very looseness that is the key to the whole system working properly.
Thank you !
You're welcome!
I’ve got a problem with mine where the vice doesn’t tighten up it just keeps turning. I’ve had it in bits and nothing is worn out or broken, it’s only a couple of years old too, I’ve tried cleaning it all as well. Any suggestions for a fix?
Make sure the half nut is on in the proper orientation. One way to check if it's on backwards is to put some hand pressure on the movable jaw (push it towards the fixed jaw) and then try cranking the hand wheel out. If the movable jaw starts opening with pressure applied, the half nut is on backwards. Likewise, check that the little pin is able to move and that the spring is able to push it inwards if you push the pin out.
Nice
Thanks.
We had to buy a new part, the peice with the sprung fed pin, however its not came with the springy bit
Should not be too hard to make a replacement for that. See if you can find a piece of thin steel that's springy enough, something like stainless steel sheet metal.
Excelent, thanks
Thank you!!!!!
Brilliant video for your small bandsaw and how vice mechanism works Very helpful to me trying to sort my 1018 or BS 250.The difference being the half thread is on the opposite side to yours.meaning the moving piece is positioned so the pin is facing away from the hand wheel.Mine now works perfectly thanks. to your video. dave@reconworkshop.com. UK
Hey i have a grizzly bandsaw and the vise reaches a point and it does tighten i took it out and clean it same problem any ideas