Woman Killed By 'Rebuked' DUI Offender Deputy After Calling 911 | Sonya Massey Case Analysis
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This broke my heart. One of the first things she said to him after opening the door was 'don't hurt me' He responded as though she had no right to make that request and proceeded to treat her like she was beneath him. I hate that she died in such fear and at the hands of someone who didn't want to 'waste' his medical supplies on her after he had used excessive force and ended her life. RIP Sonya
She also told them that she loved them too
The judgement in his voice in the entire video was unnecessary. He was looking around her house in disgust and treating her like a hostile instead of what she was; a sick woman who called for help. He TOLD her to get the pot of water. Send your partner if youre actually in danger to handle the "weapon".
exactly. He wasn't by himself. Two cops there
Itd be like if you called Con Edison or the fire department because you feared of a gas leak, and they come and tell you to turn off the main pipe to the gas burner. No, they do it themselves.
@@BornofTheStars6092 There's a nasty mentality with a lot of cops, they get to beat their wives for tiny things not in the right place around the house. That's my impression and I don't think that's all that's twisted in their heads.
@@budgiecat9039 Its also like, the consequences and danger that that boiling pot of water (That had already been cooled down) posed to him was what? some burns?
He threatened to shoot her in the face, and then did so. Knowing it was a fatal "Headshot"How does he think thats appropriate?
If you have two DUIs you cant get a job delivering pizzas or any job driving a truck, but you can get hired at 6 different police departments in 4 years 🤦♂️
along the same lines , you can have the worst qualifications in the world - being a criminal , an incompetent , a terrible human being - and still qualify for a job in two of the most important positions in the world - being a parent or POTUS . Is there any wonder why things are going to hell in a handbasket lol .
Ridiculous.
And aren’t they ALWAYS in there cars too this is so ridiculous
@@JJ-ds5fs yep, dude most definitely knew some people
Thank you!!! This is so STUPID, yeah I get that not everybody wants to be a cop, yeah but not everybody wants to die either.
This is my city. We are sick. He was passed around 6 other departments and was discharged from the army for serious misconduct. We want our sheriff GONE.
Amen
He was the head of the sheriff's office/department? I was thinking he was just a regular sheriff dept officer. If he's the actual Sheriff, that's way worse. 😮
@@JP-wx6uh No, the Sheriff that hired him or allowed him on their squad..
Your "City " has much bigger problems then him, he's going to prison where he belongs!!! However murder rate is up 45%, R@pes up 37%, Domestic abuse against women up 52%, lootings doubled!!! Majority of these criminals gets away with their crimes, because they are the usual suspects!l
This is Antioch Police Department (Northern California) corruption. The Antioch PD hires every "Gypsy Cop" in California. Ex-LAPD, Ex-SFPD, ex Richmond, Oakland, Vallejo, etc.
IF he believed his aggression was "legally justified" then why did he feel like he had to lie in his report and aid propagate the lie that she had taken her own life? No. This was 1st degree murder.
It's not first degree murder. The elements of malice aforethought/ premeditation and deliberation are not there.
Let me get what you're saying straight... The officer said in his report that she killed herself?
@@tannerannichiarico7255 I haven't seen any evidence of that. Suicide by cop is pretty bad these days though but I don't know where they story comes from?
Wasn't him 🟥
@@williamrunner6718 Suicide by cop is one thing but killing a woman and then saying she committed suicide is another. The OP here seems to be completely incoherent and not based in reality...
"I'm going to turn off your stove, OK, Sonya? Stay right there."
Exactly, they were closer to the stove. She was busy looking for a driver's license that she didn't have due to her being a paranoid schizophrenic.
Was thinking same thing
The most rational comment on in video I've seen of this
💯 I agree that would have been the best way of handling that as a professional police officer this is so crazy😢
That's all he has to say and do. He provoked this and then tried to justify his actions. Boiling water is not a reason to kill someone
Hiring someone with 2 DUIs that you know will be driving a police car is beyond reckless.
he had just recovered from colon cancer and wore a colostomy bag so was given a 2nd chance at life but it never changed the person....old saying leopard never changes his spots
Terrible!! and there is a shortage on police force thanks to protests to defund the police which is probably the reason they hired this crazy. Can’t believe it.
quit moving them around like priests
They drive dirty and DUIs while on the job, it's okay bcuz they're above the law, they are the law
@@thorlugerin other words he was on drug
His response to the "rebuke" being "you better fucking not or I'll swear to God I'll fucking shoot you" that escalation is insane.
He was an army soldier. But, that is a crazy escalation and response to a pot of boiling water. I don't believe that this gad anything to do with race. He didn't know how to deal with mentally ill residents. 🤧
He reacted like a literal demon. It’s insane how that sentence made him totally lose it.
@@colleenpeck6347he didn’t know how to deal with the mentally ill? Um, he is the mentally ill.
He should have thanked her suggesting rebuking. If I’m not wrong in the Bible rebuking is calling the devil out of a person, and after the devil has been called out, the person is freed of evil and healed of evil and becomes good again. From a spiritual point of view, very sad this turned out this way.
@@carolinegallegos_right
So when you say he was impulsive, immature, petty & dominant….. you mean like an undeniable large amount of Police Officers out there?
So you’re going to be one ? Since there aren’t any good ones why don’t you step up?? Oh you don’t want to give your life for strangers. Trust me this guy should be in prison for life!! This was an innocent woman.
"Na that's a headshot dude, shes done"
its like he is playing call of duty.
that's exactly what I thought!
It’s a hot mess 😠
Right
"Sean Grayson did not know how to *handle* a mental health episode"?
Sean Grayson *WAS* a mental health episode.
I think you are a mental health episode
No he is a Domineering controller with a badge and a gun unleashed on the public by your neighborhood police force. Why was he even hired??? Two DUI offenses. Obviously he doesn't uphold the law. Why would you want him enforcing the Law?? I am looking at the Chief of Police.
@@eahugheythat God complex is a mental health issue from childhood trauma man, people aren't born that way. Our behaviors are learned from our environment. Mostly from the years of 0-7, so this dude got pushed around a lot as a kid and I'm willing to bet and grew up swearing he would always be the aggressor. That's a mental health problem. "Get yourself a gun and tight t shirt" and now you're a bad ass with a right to kill.
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@@chasethedream7477 yeap, people are quick to forget, that the officer had issues as well, its no excuse for his actions he should be held accountable, but some people choose to turn off that perception because they allow their emotions to get the best of them and get tunnel vision and can't see the forest from the trees
Couple of things you missed:
The deputy did not knock on the door, he beat on it with his fist and did not identify himself, until the fourth or fifth time.
The deputy did not stand in front of the ring camera on the door after he beat on the door, so he could be seen.
The deputies walked in the home uninvited and searched the home.
The police originally told the family she killed herself with a gun.
The deputy filed a false police report about the incident.
Glad he's being prosecuted.
Seriously, so many things were wrong here before the actual murder. There is zero reason for them to have entered her house and then ask for ID from the person that called them, that's insane.
holy shit! He knew he fucked up
He was an ass from the beginning.
Holy shit. He's full of lies and he's psychotic. That poor woman. 😢
Thank you for this comment
So the cop was afraid of a word he didn’t know…”rebuke”.
No, he was afraid of the word "Jesus"!
Words don't kill guns do.
He SENT HER INTO THE KITCHEN to take the pot off the stove, then decided it was a weapon when she obeyed him?? That's like handing her a gun and then shooting her because she was armed.
EXACTLY
Exactly?! This was fucking sick
Big brain activity by him.
@veryslyfox After putting her in a fight or flight situation by pointing a gun at her over a silly comment...
@veryslyfox watch the entire video. She wasn't throwing the water at him, even his partner didn't think she was throwing it at him. She crouched down when she saw his gun and the water rolled out of the pot. Go to another video and watch the whole thing. Even his partner didn't back him on this one, that's why he's in jail now
You lose your nurses license when you get a dui but cops don’t lose their law enforcement credentials, wow I had no idea
Crazy!
DUI will likely get you kicked out of the military as well. Or in lesser cased banned from driving on based for a year. Have to walk to work or carpool
Same for CPAs, a DUI can cost your license.
you dont lose your license as a nurse if you get a dui lol
@@user-cy5hn7no7b Yes you do
HIS mental health problems turned out to be the greatest threat of this encounter.
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Exactly. Sonya was maybe a little off, but the cop was a psychopath. And somehow the channel doctor sides with him. 🤷♀
@@The-KP
Are you okay? That’s not what he said.
The cop is demon possessed. The rebuke in the name of Jesus Christ set him off.
The cop is demon possessed. The rebuke in the name of Jesus Christ set him off.
The cops had no right to enter the house.
The sheer disregard for her life after he shot her is beyond disturbing.
That part 💯
Literal psychopath
He had no regard for her life before or after he murdered her.
The first thing he did after he killed her was contact dispatch to ask was she 1069 (mentally ill) when other first responders showed up he immediately said "She was 1069"
Sickening.
He was treating her like crap the minute he showed up to her apartment. He was so aggressive. RIP poor woman
Yes thank you. He was so condescending
The demons in him didn't like getting rebuked.
The steroids in him didn't like getting rebuked.
Amen
@@dayinthelifeofmycatwhy would you say steroids? He's a big guy but nothing to suggest anabolics.
@@hydrostatic8048 maybe his... behavior?
I don't know about officer Grayson but the other cop#2 had an Odin tattoo on his arm ...odinizm is a pagan system that has been hijacked by white supremacists now days. ..there could be a link.... odinizm is a thing with police .
First degree is warranted he directed the victim to the pot of water knowing it could be used as a weapon, therefore giving him an excuse to kill.
EXACTLY!!!!! SHE WAS SET UP!!!!!
No matter how many mistakes I’ve made in my young life, at least Dr. Grande is not speculating about what could be happening in a situation like mine.
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Same here!
Yet
😂😅
I’m in AZ, it’s bound to happen to me
Right! That or a Mr. Ballen episode 😂
He pulled his gun immediately following his warning and she immediately apologises and starts crouching in fear.
A person with empathy would have not pointed their guns at her and apologize for making her feel unsafe.
@@TheWhackyIraqi After, he responded to her apology, and putting the pot down, by continuing to threaten her with a gun, and advancing towards her. Context is important. She had put the pot down. A pot, she was instructed by them, to go get rid of.
@@TheWhackyIraqi lies
Nate the Lawyer did a breakdown. She threw the pot at the officers at the very end of the body cam. It’s clear as day.
@@oceancat0450officer escalated the situation with a clearly mentally ill woman. He ordered her to the pot and told her to turn it off. She went there and then he escalated while she happened to have her hand on the pot. He's going to jail. Deal with it
He made it sound like he was personally offended by her behavior more so than he was afraid for his physical safety. This was about his ego. One of the most disgusting mishandlings of a situation I've ever seen from a cop.
✔️ also, he could have just said to turn off the stove. Making her pick it up and ordering her to drop it, not even in the sink, that was setting her up to harm herself by dropping boiling water on herself.
He was not thinking clearly at all. He escalated the situation to get her desperate and scared.
Dr. Grande is not considering precedent law and is therefore making an inaccurate decision when stating that he thinks that the police officer was guilty of even 2nd degree murder. In example; Capitol Police vs. Ashli Babbitt: Ashli Babbitt was shot in the neck and killed by a capitol police officer, Ashli Babbitt was unarmed and at worst was trespassing. Ashli Babbitt had not thrown boiling water at a police officer, yet it was determined that the capitol officer had not committed murder or done anything inappropriate. Therefore, in this case, throwing boiling water at an officer can be justified to kill said offendant. ~Scott Greene Esq. Attorney at law
@@SG17-jh2dbAshli Babbit penetrated a secure area of a federal building, this woman was in her own home. Try again
@@lizh1988he never asked her to pick it up idky people paint that narrative. Clearly you didn’t watch the video cus when and where did he say pick up the pot?! Cmon at least state facts
@@SG17-jh2dbBabbit was crossing a threshold into a barricaded hallway after being warned not to by the police that were there to stop ANYONE from reaching the congresspeople and senators right down the hall. It is no different from someone crossing the threshold into one’s own home during a home invasion. This is NOTHING like Babbit being shot.
First off, this woman was in her own home snd she wasn’t committing a crime or attacking anyone. Babbit was part of an angry mob that was breaking through a barricade during a violent insurrection. Like I said, Babbitt’s case is more like a home invasion.
I would have rather been rebuked with boiling water than spend life in prison.
He killed another black perlson
The inmates will have a lot of fun rebuking him.
How far can a 110 lb woman toss a ten pound pot of water??? (Sounds like a "Monty Python" skit) Not very far. Certainly not to where the cop was originally standing. He closed the distance to a so-called threat, then tried to justify why he "had" to headshot the woman.
@@willcharlt1993 police officers are supposed to run from threats? I had no idea.
@katshades You civilians always believe you are smarter than you really are. There are threat assessment levels for police officers just as there are "Rules of engagement " for the military.
To jump to a higher level beyond the actual threat, is to escalate.
This guy was with 6 police departments in 4 years and had 2 DUI convictions. He should never have been hired as a cop, yet he was. That says all we need to know about law enforcement.
I think in law enforcement that's one of those _"feature, not a big"_ things ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@42words Sad, but true. Things that concern normal people are no big deal in law enforcement.
Wow!! Major lawsuit coming…..
He has the complexion for the protection. 😐
@@ChocolateAfterDarkTo hell with a lawsuit! An eye for an eye time.
HE told her to go to the stove and remove the pot. If he thought it was a dangerous situation he should have done it himself. HE created the perceived threat, not her.
Also the first thing she said to him when she opened the door and saw him, was "Please don't hurt me"...then she kept chanting, "please God x 3, I don't know what to do".
They also let themselves into the house without asking her permission, and demanded an ID. She asked him to pick up her bible, which he didn't.
Right it like he caused the problem nobody was even worried bout the stove but him I wonder why she was boiling water I know it wasn’t to throw it at him
@@adriel7229 I agree he created the perceived threat
Yeah, this is great point you just forwarded.
He was SO hostile and rude from the minute he showed up at her house. This poor woman…
Yea definitely.
That’s how lot of republicans are
They must get praised for that attitude around the station
Yes. Hostility is not for public servants
But I would speculate that if some vapid blond bimbo had flung open the door, he would have been simping all over her in his efforts to play the hero. I suspect any thinking woman would be an affront to his machismo.
WALMART HAS A BETTER BACKGROUND CHECK THEN THIS POLICE DEPT !!!!!!!!!
He wanted her dead....this could have been de-escalated by a child..... Damn murderer!!!
Hope he rots away in jail forever!!
He was boo whoing about getting married this fall and having cancer blah blah blah ,monster evil as they come
2nd degree.
@jrpg An escalation that they caused by being extremely rude to her from the beginning, because they didn't want to be there.
I worked in customer service. I swear we went through de escalation training maybe once a month. But an office doesn’t know how?
He was the only ' escalator' and escalation
He was impatient, rude, and aggressive towards her before she even answered the door.
@@hs5167 yep
The fact that in such a short time, he had moved around to multiple agencies, and having a prior criminal record, this man should have been scrutinized with a microscope before hiring.
There is a serious shortage and demand for police officers ever since "defund the police" and police officers are being charged with murder even when it's obvious that the police officer was acting appropriately i.e. George Floyd who had committed a crime, did not comply with police commands and was resisting arrest. George Floyd died from the 4 times lethal dose of fentanyl and meth in his system due to Floyd swallowing it before arrest. This is only being done to white officers but it also demoralizes police at large, especially when they are being demonized and defunded. This is the natural result from said actions.
He was dishonorable discharge from the military also.
he shouldn’t have been hired in the first place.
Is this “reverse dei”???😂 so many people love to blame everything on “dei” when a black person does something wrong so is this the reverse?? Because I know good and well that he would have never been hired if he was black… just saying
@@lilayant6547 general discharge
So he was dishonorably discharged from the Army and was able to be a police officer? Are you freaking serious? If the military says he is not fit to serve what the hell makes anyone think he is fit to serve our citizens. What a recipe for disaster and disaster it was!
Not in relation to this case but I guess it could depend on how long ago the discharge was and how they've behaved since. Some people who were mad as a box of hares when they are younger calm down and gain sense as they grow older.
Her rebuke statement was her way of saying how dare he suggest that she would throw the water at him.
I was looking for this comment
He didn’t understand what she meant smh 🤦🏿♀️
Exactly. It’s as if he saw her as some sort of threat without her even doing anything threatening at all. And she clocked it.
Correct that is what she meant!!
Exactly
Remember he had a non lethal taser on his vest , he immediately pulled his gun out and used deadly force ,there are so many other ways he could have handled this.
Both officers pulled their guns at this woman in her own home. My question is why?
That is a great way to put it. I honestly didn't know they had those. I believe she angered him by calling 911 for nothing, that's just part of being a police officer though
Yall are going to be shocked but boiling water can be lethal and cause great bodily harm. He walks completely innocent. Liberal DA wants to kill their own, fine but not like this.
@@mpalmer7800the 2nd deputy pulled out his gun because grayson pulled out his gun. He eas trusting that grayson was dealing with something that requires lethal force, hence pulling out his own gun. It would not be logical to expect the 2nd deputy to pull out his taser if the lead officer already had his gun out
Even worse, he pulled a long range weapon, and then stepped CLOSER to a person with a short range "weapon"!
The fact that he made her go attend to the boiling water and then create a reason to do what he really wanted to do... says it all
He didn't - he asked the other deputy to go turn off the boiling water. She walked past him and said "let me do it." Then the other deputy backed away. She asked why and cue the "boiling water" exchange.
the shocking thing is he wanted to harm her in the first place.
@@butterflysky590 EXACTLLYYY that man has been looking for a reason to draw down soon as it touched his hand & that badge touched his chest!! He LITERALLY CREATED what he thought would LOOK LIKE a good reason to do what he did! He planned all of this from the second he made her go pick that pot up! This was literally premeditated m*rder!!
@@JayDubyaDub you people are the worst! Just making up shit as you go. At no time did he ask the other officer to do anything regarding the boiling water.
He noticed the boiling water and told her to turn it off. Then he realized why she started it in the first place!
Dr. Grande is wrong on this one. There is no way that man thought his actions were reasonably justified. Also, he should have never been hired.
Agreed
He lost some credibility with this take
Also, did she really throw the hot water his way? Maybe the video I watched didn’t show that.
@@bobbymoore8 Right! 100% CORRECT! The water was thrown toward him BUT if you go back and look at the video, they are standing in two different areas of the apartment. She is in the kitchen at the sink, and the cop is standing in the living room in front of the large block kitchen counter that separates the kitchen from the living room. Look at the spacial relationship closely.
IF she were to throw the pot of water toward him it would of immediately projected downward onto the kitchen floor with no chance of passing over top the large block kitchen counter in front of him.
A large pot of water that size weighs at least 10 to 15 pounds and she's relatively small frame. I did an experiment and filled a large pot of water of similar size and threw the water out of the pot and guess what happened?? The water immediately projected downward onto the floor as expected.
The distance between them was approximately 20 Feet or more and there was no possibility of the water traveling like an arrow in flight over top of the large block kitchen counter he was standing behind in the living room. IF he were in her immediate presence IN THE KITCHEN I could see why he would of reacted the way he did, but that was NOT at all the case.
25 to Life
@@archangelvvv I just got done time stamping the body cam video on another channel and Grayson actually Continues to shout out "DROP THE F*CKING POT" Two more times AFTER he had already shot her and she's on ground bleeding out. Why's he still yelling that, if he insists she threw the pot. ?? Looks to me from this video, that she raises the pot in front of her head for protection. Looks empty. Also sounds like her sink water is still running... when someone is down trying to stop the bleeding out.. as she's agonal breathing to her death. Appears she had dumped the boiling water into her sink. Left water running bcuz the officer flipped out on her. Here the time Stamps for the other video so you can see written down what happened in those immediate SECONDS.. He was still yelling "DROP THE F*CKING POT" AFTER he shot her. So she's still holding onto the pot while she is actively on the ground bleeding to death. The clip shown in this video.. if you look at the pot and how she has it held above her head. You're looking at the inside bottom of the pot. That makes it empty. She didn't have any burn wounds from boiling water on herself either so pot was empty. Appears the pot grabbed lastminute was for self protection. He'd already told her he would "SHOOT YOUR F*CKING FACE"
fight or flight mode is instinctual for survival. Pot was closest thing she could use as a shield of her face/head. That's my take on things.
9: 01 "DROP THE F*CKING POT"
9: 02 BANG BANG BANG
9: 04 "DROP THE F*CKING POT"
9: 06 "SHOTS FIRED"
9: 07 "DROP THE F*CKING POT"
He said he was going to shoot her in the face, specifically. You didn't mention that part. Then he shot her in the face. Cop generally aim for the body, not the face. She was in a defensive position and he was the aggressor.
Definitely 1st degree he doesn’t understand law
I think he did say that.
thankfully dr grande wont be on the jury...he would acquit hannibal lector
@user-dw3uv3jv3p dr grande said it was not 1st decree murder....he told her he was going to shoot her in the face and he did it....what is tripping dr grannde up??
White covering for white not surprising
Sadly her son said she had lupus and was already battling that. This is disgusting and sad. This cop took a mother, daughter, and sister. R.I.P Sonya Massey
They been protesting for years this family and yet it too happened to them
That big man isn't afraid of that small woman. He just lost his sh...t
Exactly.
They’re always afraid.
His ego was hurt
I don’t think he lost his shit. He was very calm. I think at some point when he got there he had decided he was going to kill her. His actions very very intentional and not impulsive. He has absolutely no respect for human life and think that he is entitled to take it from anyone he chooses. To me it’s clear this was not the first life he has taken for absolutely no reason.
@@noidea3177 men are not afraid of women. They hate us. They pretend to be afraid so they can play victim afterwards.
As a US Army Veteran that served honorably, I can tell you that if a serviceman separates from one branch of service and receives an OTH (Other Than Honorable) discharge, that serviceman is banned from future enlistments in all Armed Forces Branches and Federal employments. So a person that separates from the US Army with an OTH discharge can't turn around an enlist in the US Navy. However, you know what that serviceman can do? The serviceman can join a law enforcement agency. This is how a person with 2 DUIs and a General discharge from the US Army finds their way to an law enforcement agency 6 times. So my question is how that George Floyd Police Reform Act going we were promised by Joe Biden 4 years ago? Oh that's right! It got scrapped after he was elected. In fairness, Trump said he would give police officers MORE immunity to "do their jobs". So we see a complete failure by the system said to protect the rights of citizens by allowing people to become law enforcement officers that have no business being in that position. So again, when will the American people get police reform to prevent this sorts of people from find their way on to law enforcement agencies? No one is talking about that.
You can reenlist if you get a medical discharge too.
@@OGUA-camr05 Did you mean to say “can’t”?
@@unpolitical Thanks for saying this ....here in Illinois the hiring practices are different. There is a lot of leniency because of the fact that many people aren't applying to the departments but that cannot allow anyone with red flags to get on.
I am wondering about the psych evaluation of these recruits as you know when we join the Army and go through MEP ( Military Entrance Processing) you have to be evaluated first. When I went through processing to become an officer we had to do a sit down with a psychiatrist as a final assessment before orientation to go the academy. Not sure how things are still but I would be curious to know. I believe that what helped this guy is that his fiancee had connects to help him since her dad was on the department
@@ChiTown2k69 I was born and raised in Chicago for most of my life but we moved to Lynwood, IL in 1980. I did my MEP's in downtown Chicago at the Congress Hotel in 1985. With that said, back in 1980 in Lynwood I was confronted by a cop in front of my house trying to gather info on me. Even at 13 years old I knew something wasn't right. So I just went into the house without answering his questions. While stationed at Ft Liberty (FKA Ft Bragg) in the late 80's, I remember a conversation with a fellow soldier who was a short-timer and was about to go back to his home state of Wyoming. He said he was all set up to become a Wyoming State Trooper when we asked why he was getting out of the US Army only to join Law Enforcement? With a smirk but seriousness on his face, he said he was joining the police because police officers were 9 times more likely to shoot and kill someone than a soldier in the US Army. This was before the internet so there was no way to verify if he was hired or not but, knowing Law Enforcement he more than likely became a state trooper. The police have needed oversight and reform for a long time. That's why I didn't become a cop.
Should have known the politics of nepotism in Illinois. The sheriff definitely should go if this is true.
This cop was a psychopath.
Too dramatic.
Not was but rather is.
A psychopath became a cop
He is a psychopath and always will be.
she was that with he rebuke bs talk and throw a pan at him
A giant heavily armed stranger charged at her, cursing and threatening her. Her actions were reflexive. His were premeditated.
A jury could be convinced he planned it from the moment he told her to take the water off the stove.
A jury could also be convinced the boiling water qas a deadly weapon and her ""reluctance"" to "put it down" and the fact that she did empty in their direction as she was shot unfortunately will likely result to an acquittal
@@sweatergod5386 I think the defense has a good case. He was already publicly fired because the department did not agree with his use of deadly force. I bet his partner didn't agree with that either and will testify against him.
@sweatergod5386 if the boiling water could be considered a "deadly weapon" than that would be even worse for him. He told her to deal with the "deadly weapon" knowing what it was and then walked towards her and threatened her without provocation. It would be no different from him telling her to go grab a gun in her room and then shooting her for doing that.
@@sweatergod5386 "I was afraid of it, so I ordered her to weird it and then quickly ran into range of it to insure that my fears were justified."
Having previously served as a police officer, this officer needs to go directly to prison. Reading the room, the woman had psychological issues. The officer could have just stood there instead of closing the distance, or have retreated, still armed. Oh.. did you know he's been employed with 5 different police departments. That IS..IS..IS.. a problem. Normal cops may jump to different departments, but not that many times in 4yrs.
Why does everyone keep saying the officers could have retreated. Or done this or that. When was there even a reason to retreat the woman was taking the hot water off the stove, she never even said the words hot water at that point, she never made any type of suggestion that she was a threat whatsoever. All they had to do at that point was say we'll if you hear anything else give us another call and we'll come check things out goodnight Maam.
Five different departments in 34 months (Aug 2020-May 2023).
This guys resumé is getting ragged.
I wonder if not activating his body cam shows a form of premeditation.
You pass judgment but you didn't tell us why you're not a police officer anymore.. suspicious.
@@hydrostatic8048because he’s smart person, whenever the citizens finally get tired, they will take out cops it’s getting close
@hydrostatic8048 what's suspicious. People can change careers. Stop deflecting, this isn't about the commenter. This was a senseless death. And this (former)officer is correct.
She doesn’t even have the strength to throw a lot of water. Looks like she was shielding herself from the pig!
She put the pot of water down before she crouched down. She had on oven mitts. That why he was fired and charged with murder.
@@victory1261 And yet, the water still managed to throw itself at the officer all on its own. Strange.
@@btccricket14 Nowhere in the video did the victim throw water on the officer. If she did, the officer would have reacted and mentioned it in the video. Stop defending a heinous crime committed by a corrupt authority figure.
@@btccricket14 hey cricket the cop could have used other tactics instead of shooting 3 times.
@@johngrimkowski598 I exclaim that sentiment in many other comments on this video. Though, you would have no way of knowing that, and especially wouldnt know that from my short comment here.
This cop shouldn’t have been allowed to have a badge. What a disgusting embarrassment.
Yep, we can blame the cop but if it weren’t for a broken system he would have never had the opportunity to live out his fantasy of eliminating someone under color of law.
You’d be surprised how many cops have this exact background
I haven't met too many respectful cops.
Isn't a DUI usually a felony? Which usually means you can't carry a firearm in most states? I know there have been several cases where cops with felonies have had firearms, but I don't get why it keeps happening.
and he especially shouldn't have allowed to have a gun.
It is so alarming to call the police for help and be treated like a criminal when they arrive
Sure is.
Dr. Grande is not considering precedent law and is therefore making an inaccurate decision when stating that he thinks that the police officer was guilty of even 2nd degree murder. In example; Capitol Police vs. Ashli Babbitt: Ashli Babbitt was shot in the neck and killed by a capitol police officer, Ashli Babbitt was unarmed and at worst was trespassing. Ashli Babbitt had not thrown boiling water at a police officer, yet it was determined that the capitol officer had not committed murder or done anything inappropriate. Therefore, in this case, throwing boiling water at an officer can be justified to kill said offendant. ~Scott Greene Esq. Attorney at law
Because your people kill cops for fun?
ive rarely had a interaction with a cop that was friendly .. the ones i have had where just cool guys they where the few we always here about.. the rest are gestapo... makes any difference in white
They do it all the time especially to black people .
He said the words “I am going to shoot you in your fucking face” (paraphrasing) right before shooting her in her face. That’s premeditation. Police are supposed to shoot center mass, not the head.
We shall see what happens. He’s a horrible police officer. I’ve seen several attorneys break this down and they agree it was premeditated. His words and actions afterwards made it worse.
Bingo. Not to mention he fired 3 times💔
Ive seen the video several times and she does pop back up and grab the boiling pot of water from the counter. How else did the steam get everywhere?
@@ratskraad5890so you believe killing someone over hot water is justifiable? Is that you sean?
@@ericwieboldt7042 Not arguing that the officer was right, but yes, deadly force is justified if one believes that they are in danger of "grievous bodily injury", which boiling water will cause. The question is whether he was justified in THIS scenario.
That is not the definition of "premeditated murder" If that were the case, then 2nd degree murder would not exist. First degree is planned in advance, second degree happens when it is spur of the moment, like in a fit of rage. Saying "I'll kill you" in a fit of rage and then killing someone is second degree, not first. And I will bet my bottom dollar he makes a plea to "voluntary manslaughter" and gets 10-15 years.
What about the second deputy? He pointed his gun at her too for no cause. Why isn't he also in jail??
For pointing a gun? 🤷🏽♀️
dumb comment lol
I'm just guessing but I believe he thought she had a weapon because the first deputy had his gun drawn..dep2 could not see what was going on..he was just prepping just in case
1000% she knew they were the Prowlers, Grayson went their purposely to execute sonya, that's why she said don't hurt me. and I think that has something to do with his fiancee Isabelle who works at the hospital sonya had attended the day prior.
Exaclty. Both of them need to be in jail for life
How did he get hired with 2 DUI’s, 6 agencies in 4 years and a file in the military.
Blonde hair, blue eyes.....
Probably undermanned, and can't afford to get rid of people with the job being so unpopular.
I'd go with limited availability of better qualified o
candidates.
@@lax4352 Practically NOBODY wants to be a cop in the US these days and in an environment that is so hostile to cops, particularly to white cops.
2 DU I's on Job application.
Micky D's: No!
Sheriff Dept. Sure, it will be a blast!
Being a cop attracts many of these macho types that get a thrill over having power over others. It's a shame.
And now his partner has to live with that incident etched into his retina for the rest of his life. I hope he recovers from this.
And trust and believe more are like this than otherwise. I have been watching them for years, and how they interact with the general public.
99% of them actually
And they belong to various fraternal societies.
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power over people?
How about power hungry politicians ? They’re to blame. They started this fire.
As a receptionist at an animal clinic, I know how to deescalate a situation better than this police officer.
I think most people who aren’t cops can and that’s both sad and frightening
They almost never move to deescalate. For a long time, it puzzled me why this is true. That was until I learned that they take their training from Israeli spec ops. Israelis operate in war mode to all instances involving Palestinians. In combat, their's a military term that Westerners heavily rely on when dealing with occupied indigenous people called: (wait for it) "Escalation Dominance." So, in their training, the thinking goes something like this: Deescalation leads to two competing stories in litigation. Escalation dominance leads to a one-sided story.
@@kennethedwards3095 You are completely full of BS Kenneth, this is your one sided story. Looking for someone to blame? "Westerners". The "West" is not the only culture that uses "Escalation Dominance". Every culture, yes even your holy indigenous cultures and this is VERY true of Islam, African tribes, American Indians, all fierce warlords, use "Escalation Dominance". This submissive puritanical woke mindset is wearing thin. Wolfs dressed as sheep.
Agreed, he never should have entered the house there was no or little reason.
I'm a father of four and so do i, this guy should never have been a cop.
THE STATEMENT SHE MADE WAS.... "Hot steaming water, I rebuke you in the name of Jesus". THIS MEANS SHE WAS REBUKING THE HOT STEAMING WATER, IT HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OFFICER!! Maybe that deputy needs to go back to school and learn what the word "rebuke" means.
I originally thought that Shaun had misread his partner stepping aside.
Perhaps if he thought his partner was just threatened with boiling water and all he did was back out of throwing range, and that made him draw his weapon in defense (as you can’t just casually threaten an officer).
But that wasn’t even his testimony. Additionally, he could’ve stopped after she put the pot down.
I'm not sure about that, but even so, saying that you "rebuke" someone is not a threat in the least and didn't justify him drawing his weapon. Grayson was the aggressor.
What makes it first degree murder is the "mens rea" And initial statement of "I'll shoot you in the face" which he did.
Mens Rea coupled with Actus Reus.
Of course is first degree. He already decided to kill her before she even said something threatening. This killing was worse than the G.Floyd one
You guys actually taught me something. Thanks 👍
Yes sir. Even if it is only a few seconds, it is still considered premeditated
Also, his demeanour from the jump said it all. He spoke about her "being dead" before entering the property (before she answered the door) and, when she did answer the door, you can hear on the video her repeatedly saying "please don't hurt me" & praying. It was clear to anyone that she was scared and vulnerable and, to me, that's where he made a decision. The call had reached a natural conclusion and they could have left.
Instead, he led an escalation, as soon as his partner was away from him (and no longer recording him). I say that he lead it because he forcefully entered her home and, if she had escalated and he was fearful, going in would be a stupid thing to do. From the footage we got to see of the direct aftermath of this, she is clearly backing away from him into the house, in fear of him. He closed the door behind him straight after he went in. This would limit an escape route if he was in fear and the only real answer was that it was an effort to limit what was recorded. Along with his bodycam being switched off, this suggests that he knew that what he was doing was wrong and he was taking active steps to try and hide his behaviour.
If he thought she needed help or was a threat, he could have backed off at any time (he was between the victim and the exit) - but he went into the property, ratcheted up the tension, threatened to shoot her in the face, had barely finished warning her before drawing his weapon, and did not take any of the many non-lethal options available (like leaving). He led her to the pot (she didn't choose to get it, it was at his instruction) and, as soon as he thought she had a weapon (judging from the amount he referred to it as one later) went straight to lethal force. He knew she was terrified from her behaviour outside, yet instead of de-escalating (or leaving if he didn't have those skills), he piled on the pressure by screaming. A reasonable person would expect someone to act in self defence to that provocation. A reasonable person would also just step back - that water was no threat from someone her size at that distance.
If I was on the jury, I'd find him guilty of first degree murder, because he actively incited a problem where there was none and, once inside, turned a "non event" into a death by playing on the weaknesses he had observed.
I would also like to see his record, because I don't believe for a single second that she is his first victim.
Retired police officer here. Shawn should be forevermore grateful that I will never serve in a jury hearing this case.
Yeah, as he sits in jail, he could give 2 shits less what you do or not do.
billylain - well aren't you just a great virtue signaler
Not Guilty. She would have disarmed him with that boiling water. This is a racially motivated case. And if you don't vote for Heels Up Harris in November, ur a rasist.
@@SG17-jh2db not really but I have perused the video assiduously. 'Ole Shawn wouldn't make a decent pimple on a police officers backside.
@@billylain7456so you're admitting you'd purposely convict someone, to follow a narrative? Scary.
Did you forget the officer's statement when he told her that he was going to shoot her in the face if she doesn't put down the pot of water so it is first degree murder because he threatened her with the intent to kill her.
Absolutely right
💯premeditated
Fn face...get it right.
Yep I've seen several lawyers say this. As they explained, "premeditation can take seconds it doesn't mean 'planned for days'. The fact that he tells her he is going to shoot her in the face then does so unprovoked is premeditation."
Exactly! His analysis is way off.
She did not throw anything, she was using the pot to protect herself from possibly being shot which is why she was crouching down, as well. The pot was empty! Which is why she was able to hold it up. She used the pot as a shield when apologizing to the demon after he threatened to shoot her.
Exactly!!! His statement of her throwing water at that Beast is irresponsible when that is not what happened.
I dont think its reasonable to assume that you could know it was empty. At least not from the video, you dont see it being dumped in the sink. Realization that the pot was empty after the fact doesnt change that. Now, I can definitely argue that the pot, whether full of water or not, could have been dodged easily enough with reaction time and agility that should be required of an officer and that we have no reason to believe he didnt have. She wasnt going to get more boiling hot water from anywhere.
Boiling water in the eyes can leave you blind. Do I think this officer should have fired a lethal weapon at her, not even remotely. Nor should he have ever been hired (but that is the fault of the department) Was he under serious imminent danger to permanent life altering harm to himself, yes. Should he have been able to avoid that easily, also yes. Outside of that, I feel he kind of instigated the situation a bit, what the reasons for that are, one could only speculate.
She didn’t wanna get shot. That was fully a defensive mechanism!!!!!. She didn’t wanna get shot. She feared for her life!!!! She was fully intimidated and scared, she chose to fight rather than flight because the Cop was aggressive and threatening her with bodily harm!!!!
@@btccricket14 Your logic is faulty. "Was he under serious imminent danger..." of course not, silly. He was in the living room - a safe distance away from her, you evil person. You obviously have never held a pot of water. She turns the water on, and you can hear a sizzle after she removes the pot from the stove and initially sets it down. Someone like you may not understand but the purpose of running water is to cool the pot down. She crouched down when he pointed his weapon at her. Someone like you may not be able to understand but..... From a crouched position, it's even harder to throw a pot of boiling water without being able to see your target and without spilling the water onto yourself in the process. You are just defending evil because you have the heart of a murderer.
actually, you can see the water on the floor running out from behind the counter and under the chair when the officers go around the counter. Check the footage out... frame by frame
I find it interesting that she said "i rebuke you in the name of Jesus" and the cop responded as though he was a demon. She sensed the evil in him and he responded, maybe.
Demons tremble at the name of Jesus! He was just evil but not a demon and she was the wrong color to humiliate him. He used the hot warter as a way to kill her.
Definitely
Wtf really??
In ancient Jewish mythology it’s Yahweh that controls Satan, and demons (Destroying Angels).
@@bleirdo_dudeA lot wrong with your comment. Its not mythology, its theology. Its not destroying Angels, its fallen Angels. And Yahweh doesn’t control them, in fact they have a free will just like us, and demons and Satan fight against God because of they are Envious of him, prideful, and more.
Rest in peace, Sonya.
My Sincere condolences to her family and other loved ones.
I'm a retired military policeman. I have served with law enforcement stateside and overseas. I can honestly say law enforcement here in the US has lost all legitmacy because of a few individuals that shouldn't have been cops in the first place.
I'd say more than just few. Its rampant such that there are great numbers of youtube channels that never have a lack of subject matter.
It's not a few. And then there are the police unions and police departments that support criminal officers and discredit the victim to justify murder and abuses of power
Civilians are the worst
Your going to have to define 'A Few'. Does that mean 3, 300, 3%,30% 50%. Our communities have been hearing this few bad apples bullshit for 100 years
It's rare to see good cops in USA nowadays. Bad cops exist like 60-70% good cops are going extinct... 💔
Isn't it obvious to everyone that she was being sarcastic and joking about "rebuking" him? Everyone acts like she has suddenly gone nuts or religious at that point. Her tone makes it obvious that she was responding sarcastically to his fear of the boiling water.
But being a comedian with serious people and cops does not end well
It is also that he went into the home a second time, for no clear reason, and shutting the door behind him, leaving his colleague outside. That, and the failure to turn on the bodycam until the last moment, strikes me as evidence of ill intent.
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Bro! She's not throwing anything. She grabbed the pot to shield herself. People need to stop saying that. He was walking towards her pointing the gun! She was trying to use the pot to protect herself and the water spilled.
Yes that makes sense, especially after he threatened to shoot her in the face she tried to lift the pot up to shield her face
like they normally do they are trying to protect the WHITE cops actions imagine if this was a black cop they wouldn't go the extra length to protect him... we see this all the time and I hate to put race into it but it's absolutely true. Just like the cop video pulling over a white woman and she was afraid of police because police are known for murdering certain demographic of people like this case not surprised but the cop joking replied to the white woman, "don't worry you're safe, we only kill black people".... and there's decades and decades of police cam footage of cops targeting minority groups ONLY and I've seen very rare cases when they kill someone who's white and that's when they absolutely have no choice and it's really crazy how cops treat one group of people over another but this is America....
Exactly what happened. Don't know y people keep saying she move forward and strap forward. She never moved forward than only shielding herself..
@tonygarret9115 cya so the narrative will fit the report. Obvious it's not true. Scary!
That's not provable. It's an opinion based on your own biases.
I'm undecided on this case. I'll let the courts do their work.
When she rebuked it, that demon unloaded. I've never seen anyone flip out as fast as he did, I think that deputy is hosting a demon or two. RIP Sonja.
Thank you for having eyes that see. The demon in him got offended. No one reacts like that to being rebuked. He said" you better not" better not what? Rebuke me
No such thing as demons. Just bad people and this cop is one of those bad people.
@@FelipeElGatoBustamanteRenda I used to think that. Demons are real kid, and we just caught one on camera. The light switch change in his demeanor is insane
@@FelipeElGatoBustamanteRenda What if "bad people," (smh) are what demons are?!
@@thepoweroftheoilofjoyI think he said you better not thinking that she would throw water. That's how I interpreted it.
Because Sonya backed down and crouched on the floor and because the cop moved closer, and because he wanted to dominate her, I think this is why he’s being charged with first degree murder.
1- He threatened to shoot her in the head before doing so. Premeditation. 2- She put the pot down and he advanced on her. Her position, combined with keeping a distance would have protected him because 3- She moved the pot from the stove to the sink and added more water. This would have brought the water below boiling. 4- If water is thrown, it disperses and is cooled by the air as it travels. The greater the distance, the more it cools. (Ask any mechanic about this concept.) 5- He had his hand on his gun when she was not making any move which could have been interpreted as a threat. 6- It's questionable whether she would have gone to the stove at all if he had not said something about the boiling water.
This was premeditated. Definitely 1st degree murder.
Exactly! He asked her to turn off the stove which she did. And you’re right about her adding tap water to the pot soo it’s not going to be boiling water anymore
@@Solange1233
And there was no danger of fire if the stove was off. This guy was really screwy.
Exactly.
It's just sickening that a vulnerable lady calls for help and gets the worst kind of danger instead.
It’s so disgusting and sad
True, but then don't threaten a cop while they're only 6 ft away while you're holding a pot of boiling water, and then don't reach for the pot when the cops are walking towards you.
The cops could have handled this much better, for example, taking a few steps back while she threatened them.
That's why you never call the police for help.
@@hrthrhsshe didn’t threaten them your trying to justify murder because your uneducated
@@hrthrhsIt seems to me you’re assigning undue guilt and blame on Ms. Massey for her own death. Her rebuking them was not a threat, but a passage of judgement.
She in no way deserved to be murdered, nor was her murder at the hands of a corrupt and jumpy cop conceivably a sensible or logical conclusion to her interaction with law enforcement that she clearly appreciated and-at least intially-trusted.
She was not viewed by the LE officers as innocent, but immediately viewed as a threat.
It’s wild that citizens are always expected to be the reasonable party while the police simply do whatever they want.
They were trying to take an incident report when the "reasonable citizen" here had a psychotic break and assaulted them.
Great point!
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Pretty reasonable to not thrown scalding hot water at people
@@jimdino77 Yeah, it is, isn’t it? She had no intentions of throwing it. Don’t believe everything a psychopath says to gain sympathy or defend his criminal actions, the video evidence is pretty cut and dry. This man simply wanted to shoot someone, whether or not he was justified (he clearly was not in this case).
This guy said that sonya turn on the faucet, it looks like she put the pot in the sink and put cold water in the pot or she dumped out the water and put cold water on the pot to cool it down and it does not look like she threw the water at the him, with one hand that would be hard if the pot was full of water. It looks like she was showing the officer it was empty. It looks like she would burn herself too by the way you see her holding it.
He also clearly said he would shoot her in the face and he did. Absolutely premeditated first degree murder. He created the situation he felt he needed to get away with killing her under a pretense of self defense. A disgusting power tripping murderer.
Yes. This was murder one. He should be charged with first degree murder.
I think Sonya recognized the devil in that man. She was right to say it.
Rest in peace Sonya.
Yes I think this young lady Sonya had real Holy Spirit discernment
True
@@Whereisyourheartnow Maybe you don't?
SONYA, disrepctfull to not spell the name right.
None intended@@tomjones9082
So he pulled a gun on her for saying "I rebuke you in the name of Jesus"? What?? Clearly she wasn't the only one with mental health issues. Unbelievable.
She felt the evil spirit of the cops present in her home hence the rebuke!👿👿
@@canonicalcritic wrong, she thew it in self-defense after she put it down and he came after her. He told her he was going to shoot her in the head. It was a reaction to his aggression.
U left out the part where she walked towards the cops with a boiling pot of water.
@@ratskraad5890 They asked her to take that off the stove. She moved it to the sink, but I guess in your mind that justifies his actions. It sounds like you are a worse human being than he is.
I agree if this is true but how do you know she threw water at him? I saw no mention of that in any article or news story and it doesn't look like it on the video.@@canonicalcritic
He told her what he was going to do to her before he did it. That’s where 1st degree charges are coming from. He planned it audibly.
Cop escalated from 0 to 100
I gather, his demons felt the pain of her call for the Lords Rebuke.
100%. That is where he changed! Demons are real, make no mistake.
But why didn’t the Lord stop him?
Why didn’t God?
Idk y’all but all the abuse I’ve suffered after helping other Cost a lot, I did everything the Bible said and still managed to marry a pedo and when I left he still got the children, I prayed and obeyed…. They made religion up
@@LatreseMagee-hu2oowhy are you blaming God? It’s not God’s fault the multiple police stations overlooked his bad record and still gave him the job. Quit blaming God America’s inability to deal with the evil sin of systematic racism and impartiality.
@@LatreseMagee-hu2oo free while my brother, free while
she was telling on him, she knew he was evil and he was there to take her. she knew early on.
He was angry she “rebuked” him, as if that were a threat. What a complete idiot.
I think is mentally ill as well to take the stamens as a threat
Yeah, that cop like a lot of corrections officers and guards in a jail he probably didn't even know what the word rebuke meant. Then went in a psychotic rage ...
It is if you they are demon or have demonic spirit. Did she really have schizophrenia or can she see unworldly things in people that we can’t?
Not defending the officer but I wonder if he knew she had Paranoid Schizophrenia (delusions). For all we know he thought she was going to throw the boiling water at him when she said "I rebuke you in the name of Jesus"
Exactly what I thought. He thought she was getting ready to throw the water and said "I rebuke you in the name of Jesus" first.@serenesoundstation5320
He was unable to properly assess the situation due to his inability to relate to Sonya. This is at the heart of racism. He immediately saw her as a threat not entitled to care.
The sad part is ,I can relate to her, they are doing that to me, sea tac police dept. I have evidence, and begged l/ begging for help. But nope. They using this " mentally ill " stuff as a covering up. And they're the ones doing it, BUT EVERYONE is calling us. We are crazy, it's that others are so blind, and that's why they keep getting away with it.
Race doesn't stand in the way of relating to someone. To think it does is to build barriers that only promote racism. Any human can relate to another human given enough experiences. Yes he saw her as a threat but why say it was because of race? He never at any point in the bodycam footage says anything about her race but here you are drawing attention to it. It's divisive, and DIVISIVENESS is what's actually at the heart of racism.
@@tannerannichiarico7255The denial is real with many of you. Given the history of racism and slavery in the US. You want to pretend that it no longer exists, because no one in your social circle appears to express racial hatred. Racism exists and it doesn't take hearing the n word to know. If this were a caucasian woman, there is no way she would end up dead, that the collegue would point his gun towards the woman, that the pd would lie to defend the suspect, or the PD would laugh and be jovial around the suspect after he murdered a woman who looked like their family. It's logical to assume that such chains of reactions were because they didn't see their "loved ones" in her. Thats the same reason why bozos online try to defend a psychopath.
@@tannerannichiarico7255
Most anti-Black racists, always deny that
Anti-Black racism exist in Amerikkk.
@@tannerannichiarico7255 you really don't understand racism. In the world of racism the "other" races are demons and not human beings that deserve any humane considerations period.
He hated her from the first sight
Sonya went out fighting for her life. We all saw her put the pot down, we ALL saw her crouch and say sorry, we all saw her grab the pot for cover but we did not see the water going towards the murderer. And we know that he shouldn’t have had this Job in the first place. Due to HIS criminal history.
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@@Mark_Adams 🐷
It has been alleged. He has been in 6 different departments. I'm sorry. After the 3rd switch. They need to force a resignation. This was sickening.
Right or He could do Desk Duties
I'm not saying anything in his defense...I'm only commenting on your comment.
Often police go around from job to job like that to get better pay. They also might have only had a part-time job or two, which is common. He was not fired from any of those jobs. That on its own isn't what it's being made out to be
It sure is sickening, even more so b/c the deceased was in the "body of christ" . HE CROSSED THE BLOODLINE !
@@shannonrusso3853 AGREE. IT WOULD BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT IF HE HAD BEEN FIRED SEVERAL TIMES. BUT WE ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO SWITCH FOR BETTER JOBS OR SITUATIONS.
@@AW-vf2du Exactly! Often first and second jobs are stepping stones only
I have a friend who is a Disabled Veteran. He received his Honorable Discharge from the Marines during 2008. He was an infantry Marine and suffers from sleep apnea, herniated disc, neck injury, and psychosis. He's not allowed to get a job in law enforcement or any job where firearms or making sound judgements under pressure are required. That didn't stop him from applying though, but he's been denied repeatedly likely because of his service connected injuries. He has a clean record, is college educated, but can't get a job in what he wants to do. How did this scum of a person Sean Grayson get into law enforcement with his bad conduct discharge, work history, and DUI records?
Probably more lenient departments
What state is this in? One of my co workers is a Marine that was discharged due to an IED and he’s allowed to be an armed security guard
Probably due only to his physical disabilities not his mental ones.
Only a demon would get upset about someone saying they rebuke them in the name of Jesus…that man is evil !
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From Wikipedia:
In the Roman Ritual, true demonic or Satanic possession has been characterized since the Middle Ages, by the following four typical characteristics:[16][17]
1 Manifestation of superhuman strength.
2 Speaking in tongues or languages that the victim cannot know.
3 Revelation of knowledge, distant or hidden, that the victim cannot know.
4 *Blasphemous rage, obscene hand gestures, using profanity and an aversion to holy symbols, names, relics or places.*
Yeah, or possibly in his twisted head he never heard the word 'rebuke'. Maybe he heard her say (because of the water) I 'baptise' you in the name of Jesus.
@@cozmcwillie7897 no excuse. He is a grown ass man
She was dumping the water out!
Exactly!
This sounds as if you're making an excuse for the officer.
Because he is. I’m surprised no one else is calling him out on it.
Agreed and I'm a white woman
Not really, he states all of the facts of the situation as they happened, criticises the police officer's conduct for aggressive behaviour and language, and not de-escalating the situation, and says he will probably be found guilty of 2nd degree murder. All perfectly reasonable.
@@MBKill3rCat He isn't a lawyer so he isn't really in a position to determine the distinction between 1st and 2nd degree. I did see one lawyer who thinks that because he set her up 1st degree will stick, he explained you don't need to plan for days in advance, minutes will do.
@@user-gl5dq2dg1j Hence the 'probably'; all anyone can do is conjecture if they're not part of the trial. The justice system doesn't always deliver justice, letting criminals walk free and sending innocent people to jail.
The officer commanded her to go get the pot of boiling water off the stove. Then, when she got the pot of boiling water off the stove, he shot her and claimed her holding the pot of boiling water was a threat.
She got back up and grabbed the pot and threw the water towards them.
No, this comment is NOT saying the shooting is justified. It is simply a fact.
@@driftingbrandonc.6480 yea but after the cop closed the distance on her, she clearly felt intimidated. there was no need to shoot her.
@@driftingbrandonc.6480Moronic
That part. So wicked
@@driftingbrandonc.6480 I don't see her throwing it at all. She was cowering in fear and may have dropped it.
But he said that he was going to shoot her in the face long and pulls his weapon before he she appears to throw the pot. He acted out killing her. That is premeditation.
I have schizophrenia but without paranoid symptoms. In fact, at this point, my symptoms are fully controlled by the medication I take, but I sympathize with Sonya because it would be scary to be confronted by an aggressive cop with a gun drawn out. That guy should never have been a cop. He didn’t have the character to be a cop, and police administrators should do a better job of assessing their candidates before hiring them. I can’t believe they’re so desperate to hire cops that they would settle for someone so unqualified as Sean obviously was. Poor woman. She didn’t deserve this.
Dr. Grande is not considering precedent law and is therefore making an inaccurate decision when stating that he thinks that the police officer was guilty of even 2nd degree murder. In example; Capitol Police vs. Ashli Babbitt: Ashli Babbitt was shot in the neck and killed by a capitol police officer, Ashli Babbitt was unarmed and at worst was trespassing. Ashli Babbitt had not thrown boiling water at a police officer, yet it was determined that the capitol officer had not committed murder or done anything inappropriate. Therefore, in this case, throwing boiling water at an officer can be justified to kill said offendant. ~Scott Greene Esq. Attorney at law
@@SG17-jh2dbhe told her to turn the pot off and if he felt threatened he should have backed off.
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There will always be someone who have their whole head up cops you know what, smdh.
@@peacehappyb237 have any of you heard of gangbanger ambushes - happens to cops all the time - fact is, there are more dead cops from being killed and being ambushed then the other way around
@@SG17-jh2db Did the water reach him?
Why didn't Deputy #2 try to de-escalate the situation? His silence was enabling.
I think he was in shock. Grayson snapped when his partner's back was turned so he may not have immediately known what happened. He's probably experiencing guilt over it. There's footage of him shaking afterward.
Everything was happening so face , his partner probably did not think it would have went left like that
He was distracted when they were talking and very disturbed by it from his body cam footage
Probably just shocked. He seemed shocked and confused and in the longer version the body cam shows that when he goes to the car his hand is trembling….
@@EvonRomano-ge2og Trembling because he is in trouble.
they were super rude and disrespectful to that lady from the beginning of their interaction
Racially motivated.
Definitely racist. But the homies in prison will find a way to get him f'ing prick
Yes the police officer who shot her was! From the beginning. He said the reason she didn't answer the door immediately when he nocked was because "she was hiding her drugs".
Yes, I noticed the rudeness too. I would have asked them to leave since they weren’t really helping her.
She never throws the pot she was showing him that her hands were empty, she had already emptied the pot at the sink.
I dont think so. They were pointing out that there was water on the floor going up to almost where they were standing.
@@Redspecialitythere was a blue bucket sitting on her floor right near where she was shot. That bucket could have had water in it and spilled over after he killed her.
@Redspeciality he lied turns out the whole shooting was planned by the way Sean's girlfriend had an altercation with the victim the day before according to victims children. White people need to start owning up to how they view talk about lie on an abuse blacks...blacks are tired of the mistreatment what did we do to yall as a people nothing at all
When ppl keep saying it’s ‘CLEAR SHE DID THIS OR DID THAT OR DIDN’T DO IT’ The clip or clips are not clear to what she did or did not do with the pan or where/why/how the pan ended up. As far as I know, some clips could be doctored and completely fake in an attempt to cover up a murder.
From the start, it was said, the monster did not have his cam on….so what happen with that? He decides to turn it on in the middle of thinking he’s about to be burned and he’s going to shoot somebody in the face. I don’t think so.
What’s crystal clear is this monster committed cold bloody 1st degree murder. Even if he thought this woman was going to drench him with hot water(which I doubt) , he could’ve left, move back and be gone…..not move towards what he perceived to be threat, so he can get his jollies shooting somebody in the face….and anyone thinks it was ok for him to shoot this woman is simply a walking devil. The end.
She had emptied the hot water in the sink so when she help up the pot it was already empty and she did that to either show him there was no more water or used the empty pan to protect herself from him and his gun .
Her mental illness had nothing to do with this. She was not a threat to herself or others.. she was shot and killed cold blooded. Everyone has some sort of mental illness depression, anxiety, ptsd.. her actions was NOT a threat or to discredit her by saying mental illness.. The cop was the real threat with the mental illness that he could not control that lead him to take this woman’s life!
Dr. Grande is not considering precedent law and is therefore making an inaccurate decision when stating that he thinks that the police officer was guilty of even 2nd degree murder. In example; Capitol Police vs. Ashli Babbitt: Ashli Babbitt was shot in the neck and killed by a capitol police officer, Ashli Babbitt was unarmed and at worst was trespassing. Ashli Babbitt had not thrown boiling water at a police officer, yet it was determined that the capitol officer had not committed murder or done anything inappropriate. Therefore, in this case, throwing boiling water at an officer can be justified to kill said offendant. ~Scott Greene Esq. Attorney at law
@@SG17-jh2db You say Dr. Grande is not considering "precedence" but then you bring up a case that has nothing to do with Massey. Massey was in her own house. Was your lady? When did Massey throw water? She didn't. You are willing to distort Ms. Massey's video-taped actions just to justify your anger--much like the man who murdered her. Pitiable.
@@SG17-jh2db Stop posting this false crap over and over! That has nothing to do with this and it’s moronic! His own police department said he’s guilty of murder and fired him! He has been charged!
Well said
@@SG17-jh2dbYou sound like a murderer maybe you should be investigated
I'm a case worker who has worked with people who have mental health diagnoses. They teach us how to de-escalate situations when someone may be in crisis. That has never involved using a weapon. If it's mandatory for me to learn these types of skills as an everyday citizen who happens to work in a social services field, why TF is it not a mandatory continuous training for police? I will never understand.
Diagnosis**
@@desireesalas5820 diagnosis is singular. The plural form of diagnosis is diagnoses and appropriate in the context of the comment.
There is a serious shortage and demand for police officers ever since "defund the police" and police officers are being charged with murder even when it's obvious that the police officer was acting appropriately i.e. George Floyd who had committed a crime, did not comply with police commands and was resisting arrest. George Floyd died from the 4 times lethal dose of fentanyl and meth in his system due to Floyd swallowing it before arrest. This is only being done to white officers but it also demoralizes police at large, especially when they are being demonized and defunded. This is the natural result from said actions.
It is mandatory for cops as well. My husband has been a cop for decades. Never ever ever has he needed to use force with these cases. They take the opposite approach ALWAYS. They repetitively state “we just want to help.”. “What do you need” “ how can we help” etc…etc… EVERY cop knows that. This man is psychotic
I'm a Behavior Tech and work with special needs as well and we are not armed, nor do we need to be. We are trained de escalation tactics and harmless restraint tactics too. Either way this woman was calm, polite and respectful the entire time. The only one who escalated anything here was Grayson.
This brute had no business being a cop. The public has had enough of this. Once again, police punish a civilian for perceived insubordination.
Dr. Grande is not considering precedent law and is therefore making an inaccurate decision when stating that he thinks that the police officer was guilty of even 2nd degree murder. In example; Capitol Police vs. Ashli Babbitt: Ashli Babbitt was shot in the neck and killed by a capitol police officer, Ashli Babbitt was unarmed and at worst was trespassing. Ashli Babbitt had not thrown boiling water at a police officer, yet it was determined that the capitol officer had not committed murder or done anything inappropriate. Therefore, in this case, throwing boiling water at an officer can be justified to kill said offendant. ~Scott Greene Esq. Attorney at law
@@SG17-jh2dbno.
As someone working in Law Enforcement who has a background in behavioral health, the gun is the last tool that needs to be drawn! Even in the military if youre pistol qualified, they encourage taser or pepper spray first! They have to be within a specific distance to shoot. This is basic law enforcement 101. Anyone excusing the cops shooting an unarmed w0man in cold blood is sick themselves. There was an entire countertop in between them. What hes portraying is that hes scared of black people or doesnt trust them. If you cant see that, then you dont know how to read people. He was playing in your face. And anyone who is pistol qualified knows that you dont shoot that close next to your partner, those shells are hot! The fragments that bust out of the M9 or M17 police standard hand guns ricochet like crazy. I had two of the shells go down the back of my uniform shirt when my partner shot that close to me.
This psychopath executed that poor woman in her home, she called for help and they helped her into the grave.
This woman saw the evil in this police officer and she was trying to rebuke him.
She threw the pot because he was screaming at her to drop it after she had already put it down. She was confused and scared and probably just trying to follow his orders in a panic because he was COMING TOWARDS her with a loaded gun pointed at her face. Its 100% his fault. He was annoyed with her before he even went in her home and had a shit attitude. Two kids no longer have a mother because this jack hole was having a bad day. She was not a threat to anyone.
Exactly. She was trying to obey his order to drop the pot. That's why she picked it up again and tried to lower it to the floor, because he kept screaming those words. He had her confused!
@@BlueJWay999 He was very confusing.
She held up an empty pot, her other hand was blocking her head as if pleading not to shoot. I zoomed in, the pot was empty she was holding it sideways
@@donttrymetryjesus4566 I dont think she would have thrown it at all had he not been screaming at her with his gun out. She said "I'm sorry, I'm sorry." and crouched down away from it. If it was her intention to throw it on him she would not have done that.
No your bias is showing, she threw the boiling water at the cop then he shot. No point in lying it's already bad enough
She was only joking with them when she asked, "Why are you moving back?" I've even asked my nephew the same question when I lit my outdoor grill using gas, instead of lighter fluid. I said, 'Why are you moving back,' and he started laughing. Common sense should tell the average fool he got his little feelings hurt when she rebuked him in the name of Jesus for insinuating that she was trying to harm them. If you can't keep your feelings and emotions in check, why are you walking around with a badge and a gun?
"Stop the water boiling."
"Get away from that water!"
*bang bang!*
Dr. Grande is not considering precedent law and is therefore making an inaccurate decision when stating that he thinks that the police officer was guilty of even 2nd degree murder. In example; Capitol Police vs. Ashli Babbitt: Ashli Babbitt was shot in the neck and killed by a capitol police officer, Ashli Babbitt was unarmed and at worst was trespassing. Ashli Babbitt had not thrown boiling water at a police officer, yet it was determined that the capitol officer had not committed murder or done anything inappropriate. Therefore, in this case, throwing boiling water at an officer can be justified to kill said offendant. ~Scott Greene Esq. Attorney at law
@@SG17-jh2dbI rebuke you in the name of Jesus 😂
@@gigiarmany4332wtf is funny
@SG17-jh2db you do realize if that's the standard anybody can kill anybody for any tiny threat. That's insane. He put himself in this position. Came inside, told her to take the water off and then created his own fear, threatened her with a gun in her face. You can't claim self defense for someone using self defense in their own home after a situation you created and escalated.
@@SG17-jh2dbBabbit as part of a mob attacking the Capital, was breaking into the room where Congress men and women were meeting. She ignored orders to stop. The officer's job was to protect the people in that room. She asked for TROUBLE and got it. Sonya Massey asked for HELP, and was told to do something about the pot of water on the stove and got killed.
Not the same. Not even close. False equivalence.
But even if she did have boiling water, do you know how easy it is to evade that? They're nearest to the door, they could have simply just left the house and told her their work is done if she won't cooperate. She can't run with the pot or risk burning herself. It was in no way threatening. That guy is a heartless killer and needs to lock up where he can't hurt others. This video is absolutely terrifying. And that lady didn't deserve that.
Not only that, but it would’ve been difficult to throw a full pot of boiling water without her hurting herself especially from such a distance. Even if the pot was half full, or less than half full. The pot was pretty big and most likely hot so it wouldn’t of have been easy for her to handle it in such a way where she could throw the water successfully from such a distance without herself getting burned. At the end where it appears she did throw it, it was most likely considerably cooled down and didn’t seem to have much, if any, water at all. And even if it was still boiling hot, she most likely threw it as a last ditch effort to try and protect herself.
@@Jennaayy17from her crouching position, the only person that would have been hurt was herself. Plus there was a counter between them
she literally was about to throw boiling hot water at him
@@peachyskies5158 oh please. From her position the only person to be hurt would have been herself. With a counter between her and the officers what could she have done that warranted a gun being pulled on her in her own kitchen
@@peachyskies5158 it's like you didn't read anything at all
Turning off your body cam should be an immediate criminal charge... Like refusing a DUI test. It does, after all, suggest a level of culpability.
What if a camera goes off by mistake? Should cops just randomly be charged with crimes for an equipment failure? Why would anyone ever be a cop then, if they could go to prison for the slightest thing. That's just unhinged thinking.
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I believe his camera was off from the get-go. It’s not like he had it on, turned it off, and then turned it back on. He had it off the whole time he was on duty until he immediately turned it on when he was about to shoot Sonya. He literally didn’t have it on from the beginning which is what he was required to do.
@@My-Name-Isnt-Important It's easy to prove equipment failure. They would be able to identify the problem easily if that really is the case. Or even just leave it on over a period of time to see if the problem repeats itself. No excuses
He never turned it on
I agree, it’s like refusing a field sobriety test. They gotta play by the rules as well.
she never did throw water in his direction