Carbon Print from a Film Negative / vlog #81
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- Опубліковано 17 січ 2020
- In the vlog #81 I've learned that I can't push expired film to the density I would want to see. From the fresh film I've easily got a good negative and from that negative I've made a great carbon print. Now I'll make a carbon kits and send them to my greatest supporters from Patreon.com, so they can make a carbon print for them selves. Soon it'll be available for the public.
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PS: obviously it's not obvious to some, so let me explain that was a topshit humour. Topshit happens!
Nice to see that you are using a JOBO to process your film. I own and operate a film processing lab in the United States, it might be helpful to try a more active developer if going for more density with expired film on a JOBO. Something like straight XTOL or Rodinal at 1:25. D-76 is nice, but requires quite a bit of developer per area of film for complete development (relative to other developers), and sometimes with the smaller JOBO tanks, you can run into not having enough developer for what you’re trying to do if the film is expired. I always go for at least 300ml of D76 (before dilution) for every 80 square inches of film (one roll of 120, or 135-36, or 4 sheets of 4x5) in the tank for non expired film, and even more for expired film. Xtol only requires 100ml before dilution, and Rodinal 10ml before dilution for normal film that is not expired. Maybe that’s something to look at if planning to use expired film where you need lots of density, like for carbon printing.
@6:30 - Great lesson learned... "cannot push expired film to get a good density". Thank you - very good to know!!!
Oh I enjoyed this. I will totally not use expired film after watching this video, I promise!
You're a magician. Your tenacity is fantastic.
Look at the detail ! In that print. Amazing !
Thanks for the insight into Carbon printing I’ve never seen the process before 👍👊 And good luck for the rest of the year
That is a beautiful print, my friend.
Great to see your doing well
It’s Wonderful!
Love the idea, would love to get something like this 😍
Epic as always!
Elvis is not dead! !-)
I must try this....I will try this.
Water in powder AHAHAHAHAHAH
Top job as always :)
Editing on this video was superb.
Thx, my job. It's important for me to make at least one minute of visually intriguing video.
beautiful print
Borut, my wife said I always shoot benches, stones and bushes. Yeah ;-) ... BUT you inspired me to shoot trees now too... you tought me to not being the most bad photographer on earth. Thank you! ... Ah and your landscape is inspiring too!
Thank you, just passing on the love I've received from others. Benches, stones and bushes are great subject. Enjoy!
Great video as always. I am just curious , did you have ever made a vlog on making a print using liquid Emulsion. I will be really thank you to give a link if you have already done one or if you havn´t made it yet could you make one. I will be really thankfull for this. just asking for small help :) Best regards from Brelin
These videos are always inspiring Borut, thanks so much for making them! Quick qu - for carbon printing I understood that dichromates were banned from the EU. Do you mix your own?
No, I use DAS as an alternative to dichromates. Dichromates were banned for a good reason.
Thank you, more to come, more to come!
Hei Borut! I am interested in having this kit. I live in Estonia. Do you ship to Tallinn? I love your work, keep going.
Can you do some time a episode about lith printing? Super interested in it but almost no info to find about it. :)
carbon printing kit, yes yes yes I hope you can make it happen :)
This video has got one of the best audio soundtracks I've ever heard in Borut's videos... Song: Escape
, Artist: Niwel, Video link: ua-cam.com/video/n32Mou1b1ag/v-deo.html
@10:57 WOOHOO!!!!!!
Поздравляю! Очень красиво!
Spasiba!
Great as usual! I'll take this kit :) I will write you onto Patreon. Please, create a kit also for the collodion :)
I could do it for collodion, but shipping is very complicated, so I've gave up the collodion kit idea. Personal pick up, no problem!
@@BorutPeterlinPhotography ok, I understand. And the personal pickup is not a bad idea at all :) Anyway, I'm looking forward to getting the carbon kit.
If you want more density in your negative, tone it. Selenium toning negatives s a good idea dor archival purposes at an rate, but yeah. If you htink you can stand the greater contrast, selenium tone the negative. It may or may not get you there, bit it's worth a shot.
Just a quick question. Is there a reason why you shoot a lot of woodland images? Just noticed it in a few videos or is it a phase you are going through as a photographer? Great work
My next project will give a full answer, but in one line, woodland for me is a church and photography is a prayer.
Very good work Only a question where do you live because the paysage are wonderfull Best regards from ARGENTINA
My parents made love only in the beautiful landscapes of Slovenia. Without the beautiful landscape, I wouldn't materialise as their son.
2:54 The saying is 'I just bulldoze through.' : )
In the case of low contrast I would suggest to scan the negative, push the contrast and print this with an inkjet on a transparent sheet. If you use the right transparencies and printer settings it will work as a charm.
Easier is just to prepare a new carbon tissue with the exact contrast needed.
In Rodinal type developers I find FP4+ requires 50% more time than Fomapan 100, with same lighting and metering. For outdated film the general rule is +1 stop per decade, but it depends a lot on storage. For films of unknown vintage found in old cameras, semi-stand development will bring out any remaining detail, at the expense of a flatter negative. With really ancient films gamma radiation (from space, maaan!) fogs the film base, even if refrigeration. I'm sure you know this, but someone may not!
Are you using something to frame up the view before setting up your camera?
I'm not sure what you mean. Beside the eyes and dark cloth, nothing special.
Topshit Photography in the start of the video, when you first got to the river, it looked like you were looking for the shot, before you setup your camera. I thought you had something in your hands
What exactly is "dust" that replaces dichromate??? Super interested in trying ti out myself;
4,4'-Diazidostilbene-2,2'-disulfonic acid, disodium salt, tetrahydrate, it's much easier to call it DAS
Cool. Where can you get it though? Would love to start trying carbon transfer without poisoning myself 😂
Brilliant vlogs, and 2 fantastic books I received at Christmas, always look forward to your videos , Top Shit Photography really does happen!
Thank you Paul! Thank you for your support! This year another one is coming. And next year another one!
@@BorutPeterlinPhotography look forward to seeing them!
Looks like you live near the railway？
I've noticed that Kodak black and white films tend to age pretty well. I've developed 1950s Verichrome Pan at work and it's come out surprisingly well. I personally shoot Tech Pan most of which expired in the mid 80s and it's PERFECT. Ilford and Fuji tend to age worse.
Can confirm. I shot some Plus-X from the mid '80s and it was almost perfect.
Brilliant. Thank you from Scotland. Leave a light on. We will be back soon. We just need to shake off England first.
I'm just about to do the same thing you demo'd with Fomapan 100 but for cyanotype and salt print. How long did you stew in what dilution of D76? You could save me some trial and error. (I was going to try another developer I have to hand or maybe Ilford PQ which is recommended for dense sheet film negs).
A negative can not be suitable for cyanotype and for salt print. For cyanotype, just expose it as normal and push development for 30% of time. For salt print I would exposed it +1 f stop and develop it for +80% of recommended time.
@@BorutPeterlinPhotography So neg for cyanotype is denser and higher contrast whilst salt print is just denser but same kind of gamma as for silver gelatin?
@@BorutPeterlinPhotography Ah I read that wrong! Yes I see what you mean. Much denser and more contrasty for salt print.
Top Video!....i have no Assistens so its always my fault :-(...*lol*
7:20 You are welcome and next week we teach you how to make the Perfect Texas Chili
Yes, that sounds like fun! Say greetings to Luka and Melania !-)
Topshit Photography We love Melania and Luka. Beauty and great ball Handling is so popular here we import the very best and give them giant White House’s and their own court to play on.
FYI: I find exposing expired film is a question of adding a full stop or a stop and 1/2 of light for every 10 years it's expired... I also expose 400 speed film at 320. But I'm sure a person of your skill already knows that 😬😬😬 CHEERS!!! Thanks for all the great content in your videos as always. And I hope I get a chance to work with you one day if not as an assistant then in one of your workshops.
Thank you. I know this but I haven't done systematic testing to see what's going on
You take pictures on film ???? What happened to you...? what's next? Digital Ixus? ;) Just kidding. Nice work bro :)
Last resort before going homeless. ;-)
Couldn't one put a UV bulb in a projector/enlarger and do a enlarged carbon print??
Or the exposure needed would perhaps take forever.
Yeah it would take ages. Glass absorbs UV rather effectively. Would be impossible to focus properly or safety either as you can't really see UV all that well and it damages your eyes.
What Derek said. But I have bought a stadium lamp with a 2000W halogen bulb and I will try to use it as a source for my Durst 138 enlarger. In the 19th century they've used solar enlarger.
@@BorutPeterlinPhotography Hope it works and that the Durst don't melt in the process.
some months ago I've made a pretty good 8x10 siderotype (argirotype) print from an enlarged 35mm negative using a powerful (50 W) LED UV source fitted in a modified enlarger. exposure time ranges from half an hour to two hours, depending on the largest aperture of your lens. I focused by eye, reflecting UV light on a white paper sheet (it will glow, just like white clothes in a disco). never use a focus finder: it can seriously hurt your eyes!
I will try salted paper soon :)
Borut, if you want to send me some of those carbon tissues I can try to give "enlarged carbon prints" a go ;)
(of course you have to give me some directions about the proper 35mm negative density and contrast)
It looks like you need an assistant that is as obsessed with photo chemistry as you are...
There was THAT much of a difference in expired film ? Wow. All my stuff is expired. Time to get fresh films. Yikes.
The asistant try to make some sort of Divided D-23 hehehe
The Best way how to Invent new things
@@BorutPeterlinPhotography YES!!!
What about intensification instead of making all the work, and the expese, again?
Tell me more about it
@@BorutPeterlinPhotography When using silver gelatine, you can bleach and re-develop with a Dicromate/Sulfuric acid bleach , and the redevelop in D72 or any other Developer. You can do it with artificial light, it´s very easy
The formulas are in the holy book "The-Darkroom-Cookbook" and you can also buy the Intensifier from Fotospeed in the maco.de store
@@BorutPeterlinPhotography books.google.cl/books?id=laB5AgAAQBAJ&pg=PA129&lpg=PA129&dq=chromium+intensification&source=bl&ots=i_W5ptNFKh&sig=ACfU3U2DsD1yf3fTqQNTXA1Xfn4xLCgPeQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjnocGCmo7nAhWFHrkGHQ7OCbsQ6AEwBHoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=chromium%20intensification&f=false
Thank you! I made a note as an idea for my next vlog. Thx
@@BorutPeterlinPhotography Nice ;) By the way, it´s hydrochloric acid, not sulfuric, my mistake :P
So, it was not the assistant...
Always blame somebody else! This is a great wisdom that was passed down from my grandfather to my father and now to me.
How do I get a top shit photography box full of carbon printing goodness? # salivating
First send me an email request on borutpeterlin@gmail.com and I'll put you on the "Mortals list". First I have to send to my patreons and hear their experience, then I'll start offering this kit. It'll be soon, though.
@@BorutPeterlinPhotography epicness!
Hiiii
I think you meant бульдозер mode
Beautiful pictures, you are a great photographer. The little comments you make here and there kinda make you seem really arrogant tho.
Thank you. It's topshit kind of humour. People get it. Most of the time, he, he...
Didn't know you shot film... Thought you only did wet plate!
It's my b-plan before going homeless.
@@BorutPeterlinPhotography hahahaha, didn't realise wet plate cost that much! Thought it would be only slightly more expensive than large format film
I have yet to like a picture of yours to be honest… i’ve been watching your videos here and there for the last 2 years, but to me your pictures are a bit too chaotic to my taste, too grungy i would say, lacking a bit of poetry, of romanticism and sensibility… just a personal opinion, i think I may be a bit too much into Sudek and the pictorialists in general, but i like the energy and the hard work you put in your projects. So, yeah, here is that 🙂👍
We are all different. Yes, raw and spontaneous chaotic elements are very important part of who I am and that's seen also in my work. Please keep in mind the context of looking at the images. One is to see the making of vlog, the other is an exhibition, the third is a book. I guess my project Feels Like Home might be interesting for you.
@@BorutPeterlinPhotography I’m familiar with your projects, and I’ve seen a few of your images from Feels like home. I have obviously noticed how you emphasized on the quality of your videos over the past few weeks, and i think everybody can feel and see how much you put out there, and like i said i appreciate your hard work doing all these processes and doing something original compared to other channels, so, much respect for that. But photography wise, i prefer something calm, quiet, relaxing and gentle compared to an acid trip 😅 i’ve got the Sudek syndrome… even for myself it’s hard to cope with to be honest, i’m hard to please and harder on myself, but sincerly Borut, i really enjoy the energy you put out there with all your projects !
Its not so much because of your reply here, but even after watching you getting into carbon printing i think its time for me to subscribe ☺️👍
@8:50 god damm you are the Master!