No wonder Phoenix was so convinced that the Dahlia he knew would never be capable of evil. I did not expect that confession in the game, and it was phenomenal to hear she was the one who loved Phoenix for those 8 months
It's one of my favorite little touches in the story of AA3. It's by no means difficult to believe that Phoenix was just a naive kid confusing infatuation with love in the first flashback case, and it's actually pretty funny since it's treated with humor and played for laughs. But then they hit you with this reveal right at the very end and it totally re-contextualizes that whole case: Phoenix was never an idiot, and he wasn't even completely blinded by puppy love. The person he thought Dahlia was really did exist all along. Such a cool bit of writing.
@@ThrillingDuck I legit apologized to Iris so much after being finally convinced she is indeed the angel Phoenix knew her for,who would knew Phoenix's gut was right,I was so wrong
What would have been even more heart wrenching is if Phoenix showed her the sweater. It had been years since the incident but Phoenix still cherishes it.
She had such an awful life, terrible mother, terrible twin sister, spend six years feeling guilty, then another murder happens because of her terrible twin sister, and then when she finally confesses to the guy she likes, she ends in in jail... and all of this to such a sweet innocent girl, give her a break and let her be with Phoenix in the next game, please.
b u t . . . M a y a i s l i k e 19 yrs old in PW:T&T (Season 2) and Phoenix is like 24. Plus the fact that Phoenix and Maya don’t really like how Pearls ships them together. Iris and Phoenix should probably be the same age.
@@invokemtf2 well, since Dahlia was Pheonix's underclassman in university and she was Iris's twin sister so that's correct. Around the time of this trial, Pheonix is around 25-26 so it made Iris 24-25
@@mr.thomaswaffles6700 yah, for being a co-conspirator of the murder, she helped move the body after all. It is not as serious as actual murder itself and depend if Godot himself got justified self-defense for his trial, her prison sentence would probably be for a while
I mean....kind of, I remember that in the game she said that if she knew that her sister was planning to murder Phoenix that day, she would have had to choose between "her life or mine". My suspicion is that Iris might not have any intention to kill but she will kill if she gets forced to.
Really makes you wonder, if 2 people were placed in the same terrible situation, would they both deal with it in the same way? Or are personalities there even before a person goes thru life experiences?
The kindest thing Dahlia ever did for her was leave her at Hazakura. And even then, it wasn't her intention to be kind. But it's nice it worked out that way. She spared her twin from a life a misery she was already coming to know.
That moment when you realize the sweet, kind Dahlia that Phoenix fell in love with and believed in until the end actually was Iris. I like how the anime added the touch of her knitting the sweater, even in the cold. She didn't have to do that. She really was falling in love with him. That's why in the game she mentioned that Dahlia must have "noticed her feelings for him."
@@PajamaPantsStudios yeah. The game doesn't say anything so you believe she had it custom made at a store. I didn't watch the anime (I just finished the game) but wanted to see how nice Iris is in anime with VA so I came here and honestly I couldn't hold back my tears at watching her confession with her knitting the sweater.
It might interest people to learn that Iris was in no way unpopular as a character in Japan during the Trilogy's run. She actually got 5th place in the official 2005 popularity poll, losing only to Edgeworth, Phoenix, Godot and Maya (in that order), which is crazy impressive for a character with not even a full cases worth of screentime.
@@adamryamizard5560 People just...connected, I guess, to the reveal of her true relationship with Phoenix. That's something in that reveal that makes it feel in a really...real kind of way how much she loved him.
My only fan fic scenario is when Iris finally got released from detention. She and Phoenix continued there relationship, somehow from that moment she concieve his child. But when "Feenie" lost his badge and adopted Trucy, she told him she needed to leave to go back to Sister Biniki to help her in the mountains once again. In truth, Iris decided it's best that Phoenix needs to focus on Trucy, to help her be at ease after her (Trucy's) father was forced to runaway from the law. Iris hid there child (most likely a son) from Phoenix and was taken care off together with Bikini. I still can't think of where to go from here. Other than her reappearing in that story together with there son.
@@sainttan I still don't get why they weren't married after phoenix lost his badge. I mean he clearly needed some emotional support and Edgeworth isn't capable of that job and Trucy needed a mom.
This was devastating - Iris really loved him and was willing to try and talk Dahlia out of this. What Iris went through was beyond cruel, even if the legal system saw her as an accomplice to what Dahlia did.
Actually, she wasn't going to prison for being an accomplice to Dhalia but to Diego. She said herself that she understood the risk when she agreed to participate in the plan to avoid her sister of killing Maya.
I don't really see the Phoenix and Maya ship holding water after this case. To be fair, Iris was his first love and he was hers, even if Phoenix thought her name was Dahlia. The person that he actually cared for was Iris, after all, she was everything Dahlia was pretending to be.
in the game, iris asks "shes your girlfriend, right?" (she as in maya). phoenix doesnt deny this (not hating feenris, i think that nick & iris would be a very cute couple)
@@FLUFFCHIRP correct me if I'm wrong but I remember that line was delivered by Dahlia (in Maya's body) when she was testifying about the murder. And honestly, I think that's more like Pheonix being surprised by her change of attitude (the Iris he met up until then was too polite to make such a remark) and he was probably deep in thought of the possibility that it was Dahlia who is standing in the witness stand
@@FLUFFCHIRP that doesn't mean anything, Maya was also talking to Phoenix about how he acted in front of Iris as if he felt in love with her, then starts singing something about Phoenix and Iris being lovers or something, and Phoenix also didn't deny anything of that.
While it's missing a few aspects of the original scene (notably the part where Iris said she would have done anything to stop Dahlia from attempting to kill Phoenix), this came together pretty well. Here's hoping Iris shows up at least one more time...
Even though Iris said "all I ever did was deceive and hurt you", I feel like only half of that was true. She did deceive him, but she never had any intentions of hurting him. Dahlia did, and at first, I was confused why he would want to see her again. Then, when Iris confessed, everything became clear and I actually felt genuinely sorry for her. Because when she confessed all of this to Phoenix, he wasn't hurt. He did what he always set out to do: find the truth.
Well then I can assure you that what she said originally actually is "ただ、あなたを欺いてしまったのです", which means "all I did was deceive you badly", no "hurt" part at all. Didn't know why they subbed like this though. BTW I've been living in Japan for more than 5 years so you can trust me ;-P Also I completely agree with your opinion. Phoenix was severely hurt in the incident 6 years ago, but that all came from Dahlia's evil conspiracy, and Iris just tried to save both her sister and Phoenix, then ended up falling in love with him. Maybe their relationship itself is filled with lies, but Phoenix and Iris's feeling towards each other is real. I still hope we can see her in future AA games.
As much as people say that Iris needs to return in future games and be with Phoenix, that it wouldn't work because everything would leave Phoenix traumatized, or that Edgeworth is the only possible choice for whatever reason, I think Iris would still work to some degree. People who say it wouldn't work most likely see it as "any normal person wouldn't want to be with someone who lied to them and took part in these awful events." But Phoenix still trusted her up until the last case of the trilogy, when she confessed and Phoenix said "You really are the person i always thought you were. Even after Dahlia was found guilty, I still believed in you.", which means that he still sees her as a good person, not just some liar. And in the credits of T&T, Iris says she's happy that Phoenix would visit her and that he would only look at her (until Pearl smacked him and gave him a nosebleed), which means that even tho everything might have left Phoenix traumatized, he still had at least a shred of his feelings for her and he most likely visited her often off-screen, maybe even when he got disbarred. But if she makes a return, I want to see some character development, not just "oh, I want her to return and be with Phoenix!". Like how Phoenix would react after she gets released, how she would assist in the cases or whether she would treat Pearl and Maya as family and vice versa. Hell, even whether Trucy would see her as a mother, if you go by them managing to still have feelings for each other.
I think its way too late for seeing Iris's release. There is no way she would still be in prison by Apollo Justice, let alone by Spirit of Justice. She's likely been out for years. Salmonella and Adrian Andrews got out of prison before the Phoenix got disbarred. I'd love to see Iris again and also not have her just be there to pair up with Phoenix (not that we'll ever get that since I feel like Phoenix is forever doomed to be single to prevent upseting the shippers on the dicks that would fail should a ship get confirmed.
Sad what happened to her, but at least Phoenix visited her afterwards. I just wonder if he still did during Apollo Justice and all his shenanigan years. If anyone is wondering, it was at the credit scene that showed him visiting her.
Ummm can you send/tell a link where you watched that last scene? It was written on the wiki but for the life of me I cannot find the visiting scene in the face of the internet, only mentions. I'm a huge Iris stan and I *need* to watch that scene.
@@timothygrayson5065 Don't have the link rn, but if you search Trials and Tribulation chapter 5 Bridge to the turnabout Ending, that part should be in the credit scene.
@@GouAndSotsuWereMistakes ohhhhh you meant in the game. I was really looking forward to the anime version seeing as how good the anime portrayed those type of scenes. But fr this was the first time i saw of that scene in game lol i just skip through all of it.
After learning what a sweet girl iris is, and seeing genuine tears fall from her face after seeing dalia's false ones (considering they have the same face), my eyes just started watering just because of how much this girl suffered through and yet still held herself together. I just felt really bad for her. her undying loyalty and willing to repent for anything is just beautiful. That girl deservers better. and her husbando (don't kill me for shipping phoenix with iris).
iris is really matched with Phoenix... she even willing to pose herself as dahlia so, she could stop another damage from her sister... that's take bravery and competent...
@@acedemomuse7685 one of the reasons according to them is that she's lying to feenie and make a fool of him. i'm not one of those people though since i shipped feenie x iris
I want them to be together... They truly were in love with each other even when we all thought it was all Dahlia's lie. Iris is such a sweetheart and Phoenix was always very nice to her, he appreciated her kindess and love :((
The frustrating part about the series as a whole is that it truly has a colorful cast of characters but once a case is done very few ever return. It truly is difficult to imagine the likes of Gumshoe, Iris (even if she is in prison) Franchezka, not reacting to the events that set the stage for Phoenix in Apollo Justice. Yet you don't see or hear a blip of them. Heck Maya only just returned.
@@nisdebeste I found Phoenix x Maya kinda weird too :// and I personally ship WrightWorth more, but Iris and Phoenix are cute too :]] Though, as cute as their relationship would seem to be, I worry about the fact that back then, in college, Phoenix seemed to worship Iris (disguised as Dahlia). They were happy, but their relationship didn't seem too healthy. It's the reason why I ship WrightWorth a lot more.
Wait,why do people ship Miles and Phoenix in the first place? They're literally rivals like Naruto and Sasuke or Goku and Vegeta. Jesus Christ,can a main protagonist have a rival without the fandom shipping on it cause it's really just getting annoying now?
@@fred9515 have you played the games at all? There's a lot of tension between the two that can't just be explained by being rivals or even friends. Also, you don't just completely base your career choice to meet a friend you haven't seen in years. Phoenix literally became a lawyer just so he can meet Edgeworth again. That's not something you do for just a rival or even a close friend. There's also that "Thanks to you, I am saddled with unnecessary... feelings." comment from Edgeworth. And a lot more moments between the two of them in later games. If I decided to list all of them this comment would become an entire essay. Honestly all it takes is to play the games or at least watch playthroughs of it to see why people ship these two so much. Also, why is it your business which characters people ship? Do you really care so much that you get angry over it? Literally who cares if people like to ship rival characters? Let them do what they want, it's not like they're harming anyone.
poor iris, she's such a sweet girl and an amazing character. i remember finding out that she was the one who actually dated phoenix and could not believe it. those two were adorable. even if iris doesnt end up with phoenix, i want her to have a happy ending
What can be said? Dahlia was just concerned with covering up her crime, and treated Nick as a pawn intending to poison him and take the pendant back. On the other hand, Iris had genuine feelings for Nick despite initially trying to get the pendant back
I finished this case in the game, and as someone who doesn't like shipping characters in videogames, I can honestly say that these two are sweet together. Iris is a genuinely great character.
This game... I mean trials and tribulation is without a doubt the most amazing of the whole serie. I will never forget it. The final trial was far beyond what I could ever expect. It has been now 7 years ago I finished that game but I remember it just like it was yesterday.
Literally JUST finished the game maybe an hour or less ago. Love these two. Searched up their ship stuff and it's so wholesome! Ahhhh! They're so amazing together! And then I was immediately shot down when I read she doesn't appear ever again. God. Damn. It.
I feel so scared to say that this is my OTP from Pheonix Wright because of the fandom shipping Edgeworth and Pheonix so strongly. I've heard many people call Iris and Pheonix Toxic and I'm just over here liking it because their love story was actually really sweet and they truly, truly loved each other. Phoenix ended up not falling for a devil like Dahlia and instead fell in love with Iris the whole time.
though most of the fandom ships phoenix/miles most of the people i've seen are really nice and as long as you don't invalidate their ship when speaking up about your own nobody will really mind :]] so don't worry about it
@@pricegaming7965 AGREED,, i haven't really talked to a whole lot of aa people on there but from my other fandom experiences they do get pretty wack yeah
"You know how characters voiced by Yuki Kaji tend to have love interests with miserable luck?" "Yeah?" "Let's have him voice Phoenix Wright in the Anime Adaptation."
It may have been a weird, tragic twist of fate that brought them together, but they were a perfect match. He was head over heels and she spoiled him rotten! What a pair!
Iris Hawthorne. The embodiment of goodness. She knew how much of a psycho her sister was but still tried to help get the necklace back. She even fell in love with Phoenix and couldn’t bring herself to break his heart. Deep down for the next five years she was probably suffering on the inside as she believed she could never face him ever again after that fateful murder trial
My headcanon - since the game ended with that trial - is that after the trial, Phoenix visited Iris frequently until she was released and the two of them tried to restart their relationship. Only being barred by Pearl insisting that Phoenix solely belonged to Mystic Maya
Same. Even if they don't have feelings for each other....I wanna see Iris still in the temple, free of all those incidents caused by her sister and mother; or out of the temple having a different life like a writer or a teacher.
Agreed. Phoenix+Iris doesn’t get nearly as much credit as it deserves, despite being one of the most well-developed romantic relationships in the series and one of only a handful to date to be definitively confirmed in the canon storyline itself.
I appreciate that she's a sweet girl who cared for Phoenix and her ill twin. She never meant any harm and would've been seen with him catching up. I can see the point of miles and Feeney but he wanted to help his friend to not be sad. Where it get messy it's people pulling things running with it in different directions and fighting instead of enjoying the bond and story
It really baffles me that Phoenix never brings her up again after this. These two really should have gotten together, assuming Iris wasn't given a long prison sentence.
I agree but I kinda hate the fact that they didn't include the moment when Iris says that she would have done anything to protect Phoenix from Dahlia, even if it meant Dahlia's life or her own. It showcased the fact that Iris was willing to do ANYTHING, even kill her beloved sister for Phoenix, and also, more importantly, that she has a dark side. She's not perfect, she's just human, who could have resorted to murder to protect the man she loved: murder to protect someone else, and not herself like Dahlia did. And I thought that was both brilliant and awesome.
I just finished rewatching both seasons of Ace Attorney right now in like less than a week just because of this scene. Words cannot express how amazing and wholesome this anime is. First of all, I believe before watching the anime, play the game first. The anime is obviously rushed because it is an anime and a lot of the small details were skipped out on. The anime was based off the game after all. The ending of the anime though was amazing. Everything just came around in a full loop and no confusions or questions were left behind. Dahlia got what she deserved. Godot’s legacy is gone, but never forgotten. Most importantly though, Iris is waifu material 😂
At first, I was like "aww cmon phoenix, she literally tried to kill you and you still won't accept the fact that she's a demon" but now I understand how attached young Phoenix must be with Dahlia (iris).
Nah, I could definitely see Maya shipping Iris and Phoenix after hearing the full story (and creating various diversions for Pearl so she doesn’t ruin it for them). 😉
@@kandiiyuutaamu It’s hard to say. I don’t recall if Pearl is still as much of a Phaya shipper now as she was before, Older Maya only appears in SoJ (in which Pearl does not make an appearance) as far as I know, and Iris is never mentioned in the post-Apollo era as far as I can remember. Maybe if Maya makes an appearance in AA7, we might get more of a glimpse into her current thoughts on Wright’s love life.
@L Z yes. She was forced by her trash sister, but she's so sweet she accepted her fate. I would really like to see her making a cameo in a future AA game.
What I dislike about this dialogue was how it diminished the level of devotion Iris had towards Wright as well as diminish Dahlia’s cunning and perceptiveness in manipulating people’s feelings...in the original, Iris said that her sister never told her of her plan because she picked up on her feelings for wright and knowing that she would do anything to stop her regardless of her own life or Dahlia’s subtlety hinting the common determination these twin sisters had for achieving their goals. In that sense, Dahlia still respected her sister for her cunningness too if not for the fact that she was too sentimental.
An idea of mine: Shortly after the events of ‘Spirit Of Justice’ (including Turnabout Time Traveler), Iris was finally released from prison and she reunited with Phoenix. The two later got married (all their families, relatives, friends and allies were invited to their wedding), and Iris becomes Trucy’s mother.
Honestly if Iris were to come back it might offer a killer angle about other ways the law offices could be expanded. Hell maybe she could become a defense attorney to or at least manage an office in a separate part of the country
I shipped... well tbh I was shipping Phoenix with Maya and Miles at the same time haha but I feel like now there's a clear winner in my heart and that's Iris. Idk if she'll ever come back in games or anime but she reaaally should.
Meanwhile I'm writing a Phoenix x Iris fanfic (taking place during their college years) to satisfy my needs for this underrated ship www.quotev.com/story/12430513/The-Feelings-I-Couldnt-Ignore-Ace-Attorney-Ryuichi-x-Ayame
I know having Iris and Phoenix together in the future Ace Attorney games is bad right now, considering the game is all about courthouse battles and investigations. But I wanna see a standalone series with them as the main characters. Like somewhat of a parallel series of Phoenix and Iris going on dates while he's taking a day off.
I don’t think Phoenix likes her back. This is more like a learning experience for Phoenix than a “oh I love you too” statement. Think about it, he just suddenly found out his past was a lie and that the person standing before him is who he was “enamoured with”. I would be shocked too, he needs time to recover and I still think it’s hard for him to ever develop feelings for her as he still thinks of dahlia and still connects iris to her and that would hurt him a lot.
@@satorikis Iris is marrying Larry Butz after Spirit of Justice because Larry Butz received the blessing of catching the newly married couple's flower bouquet. He's finally getting a woman at last all these years of rejection! I don't think Iris and Phoenix is gonna work out. Their relationship has already reached its end after the Bridge of Turnabout case. The fact that Iris hadn't admitted that she isn't Dahlia broke Nick's feelings, its as if he hasn't known that he's defending a different person.
@@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx oh i havent yet finished spirit of justice (i only just finished the first episode) but i do agree with iris and phoenix not working out
@@satorikis But we can actually confirm that Larry Butz is eyeing over Iris at the middle of Edgeworth court defense trials. He made his *_"Angel of the Burning Bridge"_* painting out of his admiration for her. You can see that Iris's hooded portrait can be seen next to Larry Butz's portrait just outside the Heavenly Hall of Hazakura Temple.
I love how the anime expanded on a lot more things compared to the game. Plus, it makes you feel more for Iris (not like I didn't lol). Still weird they never brought her back tbh.
I understand why Phoenix still believes in her because Iris is a good person, she was being herself while dressing up as Dahlia while Dahlia was always pretending to be like Iris for her own advantage. I don't blame Phoenix for getting over that part of his life, I don't think a romantic relationship between them would be any good now even if they do hold some semblance of feelings for one another because they both need to heal from Dahlia's misdeeds in their own ways, Iris seems happy at Hazakura while Phoenix has his job to focus on. They both need time to think about themselves which is something neither of them do to be honest.
HONESTLY BRO. LIKE, ALL I HEARD ABOUT BEFORE GETTING INTO THE TRILOGY WAS WRIGHTWORTH (no hating, just giving an example) AND I'M LIKE: "Wow, okay, this one's popular. Guess I'll see for myself." and then I reach the end of T&T and I'm like: " *WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THIS LOVELY GOLD HERE!?* " It took me by surprise. Especially with how supportive they are of each other. Unconditionally supportive. Their relationship is so shockingly heartfelt and wholesome. I expected her to either be Dahlia in disguise at first or end up being just as bad as her, but no. She's simply a super sweet and wonderful person, and Phoenix never lost sight of that. Even when the world was against it. I feel bad that she was involved with a family full of Satan reincarnations. A diamond in the rough like her deserved better.
As much as I like Iris in this series, I can't say I ship her and Phoenix beyond the murder. It just works better in my eyes as a "learning experience" for Phoenix. As cutesy as they probably were, I don't think it was a healthy relationship considering the way he worshipped her. Kind of felt like he was a tool.
this describes pErfectly what I was gonna say! I feel like it’s a bit too late now for them, and it should be something to build a friendship on or bond more than focusing on being in a romantic one, after what they’ve both been through.
@@alishaanimations3058 yes exactly, also I feel like Phoenix has moved on and as different iris and dahlia are I think it’s still hard for Phoenix to differentiate them and it would traumatise him a lot to date her anyways. It feels more like a learning experience
Exactly, even how they met it was developed through lies and deceit and ended with someone being murdered. Even if they could start over in a romantic relationship….in the end, I don’t think they can since what happened was traumatic enough for them both.
Hearing 2001's Objection theme at the start of this scene really hits, up until Dual Destinies, AA 4 made it clear that the 2001 Objection was supposed to be Phoenix's Objection theme and many people consider 2004's Objection theme to be Mia's, I know Cornered makes a return even in the original game but damn do I love 2001's Objection theme, in T & T with how much you swap between characters I think this would have been the ideal game to bring it back. Let Mia and Edgeworth have 2004's Objection or something, I like 2004's Objection theme but 2001 is just a classic you know?
I.. uhm.. object to this cute ship! You see uh.. as a loyal wrightworth narumitsu shipper.. i cannot bear such a cute ship with phoenix! if only this ship didn't exist.. i wouldn't be question my ship right now ;-;
@@princesssara2123 Objection! *gulpgulpgulpgulp* Phoenix only sees Maya as a little sister, and so does Maya! Phoenix x Maya is pretty much impossible!
@@ionutmoldovan8501 Maya is 19 at this point. What the hell are you on about? Also she was already 17 when they first met, that's not underaged in Japan, 16 is the age of consent in Japan.
@@ppvsonicspy oh. I only played the first game but this came up on my recommended. And I also didnt know that the age of consent is 16 in Japan. Thanks a lot for telling me, I will now delete the comment
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"Judge... permission to hug the witness?"
Judge: *no*
LOL
Lol
@@bennytennyson let's murder the judge
Judge sus
@@MarcusMaximusChannel lol
No wonder Phoenix was so convinced that the Dahlia he knew would never be capable of evil. I did not expect that confession in the game, and it was phenomenal to hear she was the one who loved Phoenix for those 8 months
It's one of my favorite little touches in the story of AA3. It's by no means difficult to believe that Phoenix was just a naive kid confusing infatuation with love in the first flashback case, and it's actually pretty funny since it's treated with humor and played for laughs. But then they hit you with this reveal right at the very end and it totally re-contextualizes that whole case: Phoenix was never an idiot, and he wasn't even completely blinded by puppy love. The person he thought Dahlia was really did exist all along. Such a cool bit of writing.
@@ThrillingDuck I legit apologized to Iris so much after being finally convinced she is indeed the angel Phoenix knew her for,who would knew Phoenix's gut was right,I was so wrong
@@ThrillingDuck In the end, the final turnabout was one of Phoenix's heart.
@@rainspectre3153 lol
I thought Dahlia was just a REALLY good actress!
That scene of Iris knitting the sweater in the cold, blowing on her hands to keep them warm... man, that's something.
She's really love Phoenix.
What would have been even more heart wrenching is if Phoenix showed her the sweater. It had been years since the incident but Phoenix still cherishes it.
At least CAPCOM put it as DLC in both Dual Destinies AND Ultimate Marvel vs. CAPCOM 3. Here’s hoping they didn’t forget WHY he has it…
@@theholyketchup6445 Oh fuck you're right i just realized he's seen wearing it during Turnabout Big Top
She had such an awful life, terrible mother, terrible twin sister, spend six years feeling guilty, then another murder happens because of her terrible twin sister, and then when she finally confesses to the guy she likes, she ends in in jail... and all of this to such a sweet innocent girl, give her a break and let her be with Phoenix in the next game, please.
b u t . . . M a y a i s l i k e 19 yrs old in PW:T&T (Season 2) and Phoenix is like 24. Plus the fact that Phoenix and Maya don’t really like how Pearls ships them together. Iris and Phoenix should probably be the same age.
@@invokemtf2 well, since Dahlia was Pheonix's underclassman in university and she was Iris's twin sister so that's correct. Around the time of this trial, Pheonix is around 25-26 so it made Iris 24-25
Wait Irisi did go to jail?
@@mr.thomaswaffles6700 yah, for being a co-conspirator of the murder, she helped move the body after all. It is not as serious as actual murder itself and depend if Godot himself got justified self-defense for his trial, her prison sentence would probably be for a while
@@mrvngaming Well Phoenix could've and should've visited her quite often but who knows what happened during Phoenix unemployment years
In a terrible life involving horrible family members, lies, and crimes, this girl stayed pure and kind.
I mean....kind of, I remember that in the game she said that if she knew that her sister was planning to murder Phoenix that day, she would have had to choose between "her life or mine".
My suspicion is that Iris might not have any intention to kill but she will kill if she gets forced to.
Even justice. Justice is cruel.
@@kellyjohana516 for real she was ready to die to save Phoenix
Really makes you wonder, if 2 people were placed in the same terrible situation, would they both deal with it in the same way? Or are personalities there even before a person goes thru life experiences?
The kindest thing Dahlia ever did for her was leave her at Hazakura. And even then, it wasn't her intention to be kind. But it's nice it worked out that way. She spared her twin from a life a misery she was already coming to know.
That moment when you realize the sweet, kind Dahlia that Phoenix fell in love with and believed in until the end actually was Iris. I like how the anime added the touch of her knitting the sweater, even in the cold. She didn't have to do that. She really was falling in love with him. That's why in the game she mentioned that Dahlia must have "noticed her feelings for him."
I never saw the show, so seeing her knit the sweater had me 🥺
@@PajamaPantsStudios yeah. The game doesn't say anything so you believe she had it custom made at a store. I didn't watch the anime (I just finished the game) but wanted to see how nice Iris is in anime with VA so I came here and honestly I couldn't hold back my tears at watching her confession with her knitting the sweater.
It might interest people to learn that Iris was in no way unpopular as a character in Japan during the Trilogy's run. She actually got 5th place in the official 2005 popularity poll, losing only to Edgeworth, Phoenix, Godot and Maya (in that order), which is crazy impressive for a character with not even a full cases worth of screentime.
Really? Number 5?
That's really rare for side character.
@@adamryamizard5560 People just...connected, I guess, to the reveal of her true relationship with Phoenix. That's something in that reveal that makes it feel in a really...real kind of way how much she loved him.
@@rainspectre3153 i hope she gets more recognition after that. Seriously, she's connect with Phoenix after all
Thanks for giving me hope.
@@potatosapien8765 for?
I really want her to comeback in future Ace Attorney.
Santo Tan so do I.
Same
She should have been married to phoenix in Apollo justice
My only fan fic scenario is when Iris finally got released from detention. She and Phoenix continued there relationship, somehow from that moment she concieve his child. But when "Feenie" lost his badge and adopted Trucy, she told him she needed to leave to go back to Sister Biniki to help her in the mountains once again.
In truth, Iris decided it's best that Phoenix needs to focus on Trucy, to help her be at ease after her (Trucy's) father was forced to runaway from the law.
Iris hid there child (most likely a son) from Phoenix and was taken care off together with Bikini.
I still can't think of where to go from here.
Other than her reappearing in that story together with there son.
@@sainttan I still don't get why they weren't married after phoenix lost his badge. I mean he clearly needed some emotional support and Edgeworth isn't capable of that job and Trucy needed a mom.
This was devastating - Iris really loved him and was willing to try and talk Dahlia out of this. What Iris went through was beyond cruel, even if the legal system saw her as an accomplice to what Dahlia did.
Actually, she wasn't going to prison for being an accomplice to Dhalia but to Diego. She said herself that she understood the risk when she agreed to participate in the plan to avoid her sister of killing Maya.
@@kellyjohana516 hey at least being in prison is better than being dead cause well we might see her one day
@@kellyjohana516 i hope she isn't stuck in prison for long.
@@tantris2876 the real dahlia did if I remember correctly
Lol
I don't really see the Phoenix and Maya ship holding water after this case. To be fair, Iris was his first love and he was hers, even if Phoenix thought her name was Dahlia. The person that he actually cared for was Iris, after all, she was everything Dahlia was pretending to be.
in the game, iris asks "shes your girlfriend, right?" (she as in maya). phoenix doesnt deny this
(not hating feenris, i think that nick & iris would be a very cute couple)
@@FLUFFCHIRP correct me if I'm wrong but I remember that line was delivered by Dahlia (in Maya's body) when she was testifying about the murder. And honestly, I think that's more like Pheonix being surprised by her change of attitude (the Iris he met up until then was too polite to make such a remark) and he was probably deep in thought of the possibility that it was Dahlia who is standing in the witness stand
@@FLUFFCHIRP that doesn't mean anything, Maya was also talking to Phoenix about how he acted in front of Iris as if he felt in love with her, then starts singing something about Phoenix and Iris being lovers or something, and Phoenix also didn't deny anything of that.
@@tona4170 Maya even ships Iris and Phoenix hahaha She even started sayng Iris and Nick sitting on a tree K-I-S-S-I-N-G hahaha
@@FLUFFCHIRP that wasn't iris
While it's missing a few aspects of the original scene (notably the part where Iris said she would have done anything to stop Dahlia from attempting to kill Phoenix), this came together pretty well. Here's hoping Iris shows up at least one more time...
I’m holding all the joy that I have cause FINALLY SOMEBODY LIKES PHOENIX I CANT HOLD IT AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Maya likes him
krispy biscuit 99 she’s his helper and pearl dosent have the power to change feelings Maya is just a friend
You can tell Maya likes him tho she told pearl
krispy biscuit 99 when?
@@rll5434 no pheonix would look creepy
If Iris makes an appearance in AA7, Trucy will end up having a mom.
She already has a mom!
@@Mick89. why not add one more 😂 she's adopted after all
THALASSA COMIN BACKKKKK
@@Mick89. only if she could remember anything
@@ghostrider3723 Uh she did remember everything. Did you not finish Apollo Justice?
This scene was really sad
Your profile picture is perfect.
@@kennynakawaki Thanks
@@kennynakawaki yeah, it fits the mood, even if it's just the same character.
Really fitting pfp
Even though Iris said "all I ever did was deceive and hurt you", I feel like only half of that was true.
She did deceive him, but she never had any intentions of hurting him. Dahlia did, and at first, I was confused why he would want to see her again.
Then, when Iris confessed, everything became clear and I actually felt genuinely sorry for her.
Because when she confessed all of this to Phoenix, he wasn't hurt. He did what he always set out to do: find the truth.
Well then I can assure you that what she said originally actually is "ただ、あなたを欺いてしまったのです", which means "all I did was deceive you badly", no "hurt" part at all. Didn't know why they subbed like this though. BTW I've been living in Japan for more than 5 years so you can trust me ;-P
Also I completely agree with your opinion. Phoenix was severely hurt in the incident 6 years ago, but that all came from Dahlia's evil conspiracy, and Iris just tried to save both her sister and Phoenix, then ended up falling in love with him. Maybe their relationship itself is filled with lies, but Phoenix and Iris's feeling towards each other is real.
I still hope we can see her in future AA games.
As much as people say that Iris needs to return in future games and be with Phoenix, that it wouldn't work because everything would leave Phoenix traumatized, or that Edgeworth is the only possible choice for whatever reason, I think Iris would still work to some degree.
People who say it wouldn't work most likely see it as "any normal person wouldn't want to be with someone who lied to them and took part in these awful events." But Phoenix still trusted her up until the last case of the trilogy, when she confessed and Phoenix said "You really are the person i always thought you were. Even after Dahlia was found guilty, I still believed in you.", which means that he still sees her as a good person, not just some liar. And in the credits of T&T, Iris says she's happy that Phoenix would visit her and that he would only look at her (until Pearl smacked him and gave him a nosebleed), which means that even tho everything might have left Phoenix traumatized, he still had at least a shred of his feelings for her and he most likely visited her often off-screen, maybe even when he got disbarred.
But if she makes a return, I want to see some character development, not just "oh, I want her to return and be with Phoenix!". Like how Phoenix would react after she gets released, how she would assist in the cases or whether she would treat Pearl and Maya as family and vice versa. Hell, even whether Trucy would see her as a mother, if you go by them managing to still have feelings for each other.
I agree with everything you said👍🏻😄.
That plus it would be pretty interesting seeing her interacting with her younger sister pearl
I think its way too late for seeing Iris's release. There is no way she would still be in prison by Apollo Justice, let alone by Spirit of Justice. She's likely been out for years. Salmonella and Adrian Andrews got out of prison before the Phoenix got disbarred.
I'd love to see Iris again and also not have her just be there to pair up with Phoenix (not that we'll ever get that since I feel like Phoenix is forever doomed to be single to prevent upseting the shippers on the dicks that would fail should a ship get confirmed.
Sad what happened to her, but at least Phoenix visited her afterwards. I just wonder if he still did during Apollo Justice and all his shenanigan years. If anyone is wondering, it was at the credit scene that showed him visiting her.
Didn't she got out shortly after the incident? After all she was proven guilty so her sentence should be short
Ummm can you send/tell a link where you watched that last scene? It was written on the wiki but for the life of me I cannot find the visiting scene in the face of the internet, only mentions.
I'm a huge Iris stan and I *need* to watch that scene.
@@timothygrayson5065 Don't have the link rn, but if you search Trials and Tribulation chapter 5 Bridge to the turnabout Ending, that part should be in the credit scene.
@@timothygrayson5065 it's during the credits of the last case in T&T
@@GouAndSotsuWereMistakes ohhhhh you meant in the game. I was really looking forward to the anime version seeing as how good the anime portrayed those type of scenes. But fr this was the first time i saw of that scene in game lol i just skip through all of it.
After learning what a sweet girl iris is, and seeing genuine tears fall from her face after seeing dalia's false ones (considering they have the same face), my eyes just started watering just because of how much this girl suffered through and yet still held herself together. I just felt really bad for her. her undying loyalty and willing to repent for anything is just beautiful.
That girl deservers better. and her husbando (don't kill me for shipping phoenix with iris).
iris is really matched with Phoenix... she even willing to pose herself as dahlia so, she could stop another damage from her sister...
that's take bravery and competent...
Can someone just tell me why everyone hates Iris? Like I honestly don't think she's a bad character.
@@acedemomuse7685 one of the reasons according to them is that she's lying to feenie and make a fool of him.
i'm not one of those people though since i shipped feenie x iris
@@adamryamizard5560 And I just have more questions...
I feel like people would be pissed if she returned.
@@acedemomuse7685 what is it?
also, if she appears Again i think they will not hate her since she's not dahlia after all
I want them to be together... They truly were in love with each other even when we all thought it was all Dahlia's lie. Iris is such a sweetheart and Phoenix was always very nice to her, he appreciated her kindess and love :((
The frustrating part about the series as a whole is that it truly has a colorful cast of characters but once a case is done very few ever return.
It truly is difficult to imagine the likes of Gumshoe, Iris (even if she is in prison) Franchezka, not reacting to the events that set the stage for Phoenix in Apollo Justice. Yet you don't see or hear a blip of them. Heck Maya only just returned.
Maya was mentioned in Apollo justice but other then that nobody else
@@propellerknightlol2308 And appeared in Spirit Of Justice
@@fierytigergaming8112 true, my bad
@@propellerknightlol2308 And Pearl appeared in the "Wright Anywhere" duology too
@@fierytigergaming8112 yep
Ngl, I kinda ship her with Phoenix. Phoenix and Maya have more of a brother and sister relationship in my opinion.
yes!! i never ever saw phoenix and maya like that. plus the age difference was kinda weird. but yeah iris and phoenix are super cute:(
@@nisdebeste I found Phoenix x Maya kinda weird too :// and I personally ship WrightWorth more, but Iris and Phoenix are cute too :]]
Though, as cute as their relationship would seem to be, I worry about the fact that back then, in college, Phoenix seemed to worship Iris (disguised as Dahlia). They were happy, but their relationship didn't seem too healthy.
It's the reason why I ship WrightWorth a lot more.
@@maxe_mini oh my god i ship wrightworth way more too. it was my first ship ever and i love them to death
Wait,why do people ship Miles and Phoenix in the first place? They're literally rivals like Naruto and Sasuke or Goku and Vegeta. Jesus Christ,can a main protagonist have a rival without the fandom shipping on it cause it's really just getting annoying now?
@@fred9515 have you played the games at all? There's a lot of tension between the two that can't just be explained by being rivals or even friends. Also, you don't just completely base your career choice to meet a friend you haven't seen in years. Phoenix literally became a lawyer just so he can meet Edgeworth again. That's not something you do for just a rival or even a close friend.
There's also that "Thanks to you, I am saddled with unnecessary... feelings." comment from Edgeworth. And a lot more moments between the two of them in later games. If I decided to list all of them this comment would become an entire essay.
Honestly all it takes is to play the games or at least watch playthroughs of it to see why people ship these two so much.
Also, why is it your business which characters people ship? Do you really care so much that you get angry over it? Literally who cares if people like to ship rival characters? Let them do what they want, it's not like they're harming anyone.
The shot of her making the sweater made me wanna cry bro
poor iris, she's such a sweet girl and an amazing character. i remember finding out that she was the one who actually dated phoenix and could not believe it. those two were adorable. even if iris doesnt end up with phoenix, i want her to have a happy ending
2:01 I wanna cry Iris's Ryu-chan compared to Dahlia's Ryu-chan is so different i can feel her warmth in it
What can be said? Dahlia was just concerned with covering up her crime, and treated Nick as a pawn intending to poison him and take the pendant back. On the other hand, Iris had genuine feelings for Nick despite initially trying to get the pendant back
Well, Iris' voice in general has a softer tone to it than Dahlia's
I finished this case in the game, and as someone who doesn't like shipping characters in videogames, I can honestly say that these two are sweet together. Iris is a genuinely great character.
This game... I mean trials and tribulation is without a doubt the most amazing of the whole serie. I will never forget it. The final trial was far beyond what I could ever expect. It has been now 7 years ago I finished that game but I remember it just like it was yesterday.
When she called him Ryu-Chan it's so cute that I want to give her a hug...I love Iris so much.
Literally JUST finished the game maybe an hour or less ago. Love these two. Searched up their ship stuff and it's so wholesome! Ahhhh! They're so amazing together!
And then I was immediately shot down when I read she doesn't appear ever again. God. Damn. It.
Iris is Phoenix's true girlfriend.
Pls no
Pls yes
Am ok with it
Omg you have such a weird form of writing "Edgeworth"!
Wtf
Dahlia is the definition of a thorn while iris is just a rose. I hope that poor girl is doing well
I hate how they went through all this trouble to make phoenix reunite with his former lover JUST FOR HER TO NEVER APPEAR AGAIN
Blame Capcom. They wanted to return Phoenix even if Takumi wanted the franchise to end with AA3.
I feel so scared to say that this is my OTP from Pheonix Wright because of the fandom shipping Edgeworth and Pheonix so strongly. I've heard many people call Iris and Pheonix Toxic and I'm just over here liking it because their love story was actually really sweet and they truly, truly loved each other. Phoenix ended up not falling for a devil like Dahlia and instead fell in love with Iris the whole time.
I am an iris x phoenix shipper too.
though most of the fandom ships phoenix/miles most of the people i've seen are really nice and as long as you don't invalidate their ship when speaking up about your own nobody will really mind :]] so don't worry about it
@@piimco933 just make sure to not go to Twitter i have very bad experience with them.
@@pricegaming7965 AGREED,, i haven't really talked to a whole lot of aa people on there but from my other fandom experiences they do get pretty wack yeah
@@piimco933 yeah i said i shipped feenie x iris and i got harassed by like 50 people i had to delete the app because it was getting too toxic for me
"You know how characters voiced by Yuki Kaji tend to have love interests with miserable luck?"
"Yeah?"
"Let's have him voice Phoenix Wright in the Anime Adaptation."
My God, you're right! There's Eren with Mikasa, and Issei with, well, pretty much half his harem.
Yall know Pearl Fey will not tolerate this ship lmao
*rolls sleeve* *furrows brows*
Then kill pearl
Pearl Fey gonna murder his ass
Pearl Fey want Nick for herself. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
She actually punched Phoenix during the credits, if I remember correctly.
It may have been a weird, tragic twist of fate that brought them together, but they were a perfect match. He was head over heels and she spoiled him rotten! What a pair!
i cried so hard in the game after Iris call him Feenie, easy top 3 best cases of the series
Iris Hawthorne. The embodiment of goodness. She knew how much of a psycho her sister was but still tried to help get the necklace back. She even fell in love with Phoenix and couldn’t bring herself to break his heart. Deep down for the next five years she was probably suffering on the inside as she believed she could never face him ever again after that fateful murder trial
I see Iris as a Fey rather than a Hawthorne.
@ like this
My headcanon - since the game ended with that trial - is that after the trial, Phoenix visited Iris frequently until she was released and the two of them tried to restart their relationship. Only being barred by Pearl insisting that Phoenix solely belonged to Mystic Maya
The true relationship. Period.
This is my otp from ace Attorney so I seriously want iris to come back in the future
Samee
Same. Even if they don't have feelings for each other....I wanna see Iris still in the temple, free of all those incidents caused by her sister and mother; or out of the temple having a different life like a writer or a teacher.
@@kellyjohana516 she might be already out from prison. Since, her crime was faking the crime scene so, her prison time was only 5 years.
Agreed. Phoenix+Iris doesn’t get nearly as much credit as it deserves, despite being one of the most well-developed romantic relationships in the series and one of only a handful to date to be definitively confirmed in the canon storyline itself.
Doing something that intricate with your hands in the cold. Jesus, gotta love that imagery.
I appreciate that she's a sweet girl who cared for Phoenix and her ill twin. She never meant any harm and would've been seen with him catching up. I can see the point of miles and Feeney but he wanted to help his friend to not be sad. Where it get messy it's people pulling things running with it in different directions and fighting instead of enjoying the bond and story
I know nothing about Iris and Dahlia except the fact that Dahlia tried to kill Phoenix and that Iris loves him but this still hit me in the feels
You should play the games or watch the full anime.
@@Lime30373 I already did, I'm on SOJ now
it always hits very hard especially knowing it was genuine
It really baffles me that Phoenix never brings her up again after this. These two really should have gotten together, assuming Iris wasn't given a long prison sentence.
Easily my favorite part of Trials and Tribulations. I'm glad it was just as touching in the anime. X )
I agree but I kinda hate the fact that they didn't include the moment when Iris says that she would have done anything to protect Phoenix from Dahlia, even if it meant Dahlia's life or her own. It showcased the fact that Iris was willing to do ANYTHING, even kill her beloved sister for Phoenix, and also, more importantly, that she has a dark side. She's not perfect, she's just human, who could have resorted to murder to protect the man she loved: murder to protect someone else, and not herself like Dahlia did. And I thought that was both brilliant and awesome.
Well said. Thanks for sharing that.
@@jimmyc.491 Aw no problem! Love talking about these games, they're so awesome. Thanks for reading ^-^
You're welcome! And I agree, they're pretty awesome.
I just finished rewatching both seasons of Ace Attorney right now in like less than a week just because of this scene. Words cannot express how amazing and wholesome this anime is. First of all, I believe before watching the anime, play the game first. The anime is obviously rushed because it is an anime and a lot of the small details were skipped out on. The anime was based off the game after all. The ending of the anime though was amazing. Everything just came around in a full loop and no confusions or questions were left behind. Dahlia got what she deserved. Godot’s legacy is gone, but never forgotten. Most importantly though, Iris is waifu material 😂
this moment is the first time i cried during an ace attorney game. never seen anything like it
Me too. That case broke my heart. I never expected this from a computer game. I'm a grown man for heaven's sake
gameboyadvance game
This just shows how awful of a person Dahlia Hawthorne is. ;-;
I hate Dahlia so much
@@intz8158 i hate her but you gotta admit, the character writers did a fantastic job of making her unlikeable
@@plazmadolphin5081 Truee
I would say Morgan is a lot worse honestly
@@kevinbasta3557 Ofc, she’s the one who gave birth to them, yet Pearl and Iris are so pure and innocent, truly didn’t deserve to be her daughters
0:11 *windows 10 unplug usb port sfx*
She deserves the best honestly, look how much she suffered. :(
All I want is for her to come back and be Pheonix's wife and Trucy's new mother.
At first, I was like "aww cmon phoenix, she literally tried to kill you and you still won't accept the fact that she's a demon" but now I understand how attached young Phoenix must be with Dahlia (iris).
Maya crying waterfalls while eating humbergers
good for her
She’s sitting there in the gallery with tears streaming down her face but a burger in her hand
Nah, I could definitely see Maya shipping Iris and Phoenix after hearing the full story (and creating various diversions for Pearl so she doesn’t ruin it for them). 😉
@@LittleMissRequiem Does Maya still support that same notion in the later games though?
@@kandiiyuutaamu It’s hard to say. I don’t recall if Pearl is still as much of a Phaya shipper now as she was before, Older Maya only appears in SoJ (in which Pearl does not make an appearance) as far as I know, and Iris is never mentioned in the post-Apollo era as far as I can remember. Maybe if Maya makes an appearance in AA7, we might get more of a glimpse into her current thoughts on Wright’s love life.
That one scene that angers all of the wrightworth shippers.
Not all of them. I mean, we ship Phoenix and Miles in this house, but we also appreciate Iris.
Fuck Dahlia
There are a lot, tho.
@L Z yes. She was forced by her trash sister, but she's so sweet she accepted her fate. I would really like to see her making a cameo in a future AA game.
@@tomyhoang9697 BUT I LIKE DAHLIA
@@GacktsOversizedTittiesYumYum 😓 oh dear...
She needs a hug.
What I dislike about this dialogue was how it diminished the level of devotion Iris had towards Wright as well as diminish Dahlia’s cunning and perceptiveness in manipulating people’s feelings...in the original, Iris said that her sister never told her of her plan because she picked up on her feelings for wright and knowing that she would do anything to stop her regardless of her own life or Dahlia’s subtlety hinting the common determination these twin sisters had for achieving their goals. In that sense, Dahlia still respected her sister for her cunningness too if not for the fact that she was too sentimental.
I hope one day if she’s released, Phoenix will reunite with her.
An idea of mine: Shortly after the events of ‘Spirit Of Justice’ (including Turnabout Time Traveler), Iris was finally released from prison and she reunited with Phoenix. The two later got married (all their families, relatives, friends and allies were invited to their wedding), and Iris becomes Trucy’s mother.
Please be a thing in Ace Attorney 7...
Capcom please!! Let Iris be happy!
Honestly if Iris were to come back it might offer a killer angle about other ways the law offices could be expanded.
Hell maybe she could become a defense attorney to or at least manage an office in a separate part of the country
She would be the modern day Susato and help as an assistant for both Athena and Phoenix for some cases. Be pretty baller.
We need her back in future Ace Attorney entries (if there will be), and CAPCOM better have her married to Phoenix
Yes, then the relationship between Phoenix and Iris from T&T would make sense.
I like Feenris but also like Wrightworth so either would be pog (prefer wrightworth but I just want Nick to be happy 😭).
They both are perfect for each other.
Yes.
i genuinely want to cry seeing her crying that much :(
It’s a shame we never saw Iris again
Thats literally me confessing after stealing a biscuit from my classmate 4 years ago
You were in love with them?
I shipped... well tbh I was shipping Phoenix with Maya and Miles at the same time haha but I feel like now there's a clear winner in my heart and that's Iris. Idk if she'll ever come back in games or anime but she reaaally should.
I agree
Meanwhile I'm writing a Phoenix x Iris fanfic (taking place during their college years) to satisfy my needs for this underrated ship www.quotev.com/story/12430513/The-Feelings-I-Couldnt-Ignore-Ace-Attorney-Ryuichi-x-Ayame
I mean, capcom is sh*t.
@@TadanoCandy Did you really wrote that beautiful story? Are you really Veronica Haines?
@@paulo547 Yes I am! :)
Iris, Don't make me cry. 😢
🎶Never gonna give you up🎶
You know this meme where the headline is "Name a woman that went through more than her" with a picture of Ellie? Yea i think Iris went through more
Iris has much more stronger mentality. Even she had to do evil things she still remains to be kind and caring.
And she was never heard from again.
How did I forget about this MASSIVE bombshell?! :O
iris deserves a hug
When she said "Feenie" I started crying
aw that is so emotional & uncle Phoenix was about to cry but he hold it back tears 😭
Ryu-chan! AH OMG I'M crying LIKE CRAZY
Imagine her surpose when she finds out he adopted Trucy... They'd make a cute family tho
Favourite plottwist by far
I know having Iris and Phoenix together in the future Ace Attorney games is bad right now, considering the game is all about courthouse battles and investigations. But I wanna see a standalone series with them as the main characters. Like somewhat of a parallel series of Phoenix and Iris going on dates while he's taking a day off.
I don’t think Phoenix likes her back. This is more like a learning experience for Phoenix than a “oh I love you too” statement. Think about it, he just suddenly found out his past was a lie and that the person standing before him is who he was “enamoured with”. I would be shocked too, he needs time to recover and I still think it’s hard for him to ever develop feelings for her as he still thinks of dahlia and still connects iris to her and that would hurt him a lot.
@@satorikis
Iris is marrying Larry Butz after Spirit of Justice because Larry Butz received the blessing of catching the newly married couple's flower bouquet. He's finally getting a woman at last all these years of rejection! I don't think Iris and Phoenix is gonna work out. Their relationship has already reached its end after the Bridge of Turnabout case. The fact that Iris hadn't admitted that she isn't Dahlia broke Nick's feelings, its as if he hasn't known that he's defending a different person.
@@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx oh i havent yet finished spirit of justice (i only just finished the first episode) but i do agree with iris and phoenix not working out
@@satorikis
But we can actually confirm that Larry Butz is eyeing over Iris at the middle of Edgeworth court defense trials. He made his *_"Angel of the Burning Bridge"_* painting out of his admiration for her. You can see that Iris's hooded portrait can be seen next to Larry Butz's portrait just outside the Heavenly Hall of Hazakura Temple.
@@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx it was quite obvious that larry had a crush on her but it was one sided, iris didnt like him
NO NO NO NO NO NO CAPCOM YOU BETTER BRING IRIS BACK IN ANOTHER GAME AND YOU MAKE PHOENIX AND IRIS A COUPLE OK?!!!!
Too late
There's already aj pw pw
Unfortunately they're too sh*t for that, they want people to be annoyed.
Phoenix could just stay single tbh but bring back Iris because she’s such a pure innocent cinnamon roll that needs to be protected at all costs
@@AlvinaYunoa True.
I love how the anime expanded on a lot more things compared to the game.
Plus, it makes you feel more for Iris (not like I didn't lol).
Still weird they never brought her back tbh.
This scene is such a GUILTY LOVE
I understand why Phoenix still believes in her because Iris is a good person, she was being herself while dressing up as Dahlia while Dahlia was always pretending to be like Iris for her own advantage. I don't blame Phoenix for getting over that part of his life, I don't think a romantic relationship between them would be any good now even if they do hold some semblance of feelings for one another because they both need to heal from Dahlia's misdeeds in their own ways, Iris seems happy at Hazakura while Phoenix has his job to focus on. They both need time to think about themselves which is something neither of them do to be honest.
Now i will let my imagination wanders and think why phoenix still don’t have wife is because he’s waiting for iris
Aw! That's so adorable!
2:21 Congratulations your are not guilty!
I like to imagine Godot's sipping coffee with a goofy look on his face through all of this.
More like he was rather felt sympathetic for bringing iris an innocent person to be involved.
This ship is soo slept on
fr 😭
HONESTLY BRO.
LIKE, ALL I HEARD ABOUT BEFORE GETTING INTO THE TRILOGY WAS WRIGHTWORTH (no hating, just giving an example) AND I'M LIKE: "Wow, okay, this one's popular. Guess I'll see for myself." and then I reach the end of T&T and I'm like: " *WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THIS LOVELY GOLD HERE!?* "
It took me by surprise. Especially with how supportive they are of each other. Unconditionally supportive.
Their relationship is so shockingly heartfelt and wholesome. I expected her to either be Dahlia in disguise at first or end up being just as bad as her, but no. She's simply a super sweet and wonderful person, and Phoenix never lost sight of that. Even when the world was against it.
I feel bad that she was involved with a family full of Satan reincarnations. A diamond in the rough like her deserved better.
Pearl and Narumitsu shippers: "Imma pretent I didn't see that"
@Zalkova wdym?
buddy even capcom pretends they didnt see that. irirs never appears again nor is mentioned in any other game
I love Iris so much. Poor girl :(
By ‘Ryu-chan’, the English name is ‘Feenie’
Hope she comes back. :)
Capcom wouldn't like people to ship feenie and Iris.
Yeah, she would not come back JUST to be with phoenix.
And the fanfic will explode
@@ijnh9336 damn Capcom. :(
As much as I like Iris in this series, I can't say I ship her and Phoenix beyond the murder. It just works better in my eyes as a "learning experience" for Phoenix. As cutesy as they probably were, I don't think it was a healthy relationship considering the way he worshipped her. Kind of felt like he was a tool.
this describes pErfectly what I was gonna say! I feel like it’s a bit too late now for them, and it should be something to build a friendship on or bond more than focusing on being in a romantic one, after what they’ve both been through.
@@alishaanimations3058 yes exactly, also I feel like Phoenix has moved on and as different iris and dahlia are I think it’s still hard for Phoenix to differentiate them and it would traumatise him a lot to date her anyways. It feels more like a learning experience
@@satorikis Fr fr
Exactly, even how they met it was developed through lies and deceit and ended with someone being murdered. Even if they could start over in a romantic relationship….in the end, I don’t think they can since what happened was traumatic enough for them both.
Say what you want, Feenris is still my preferred ship. Besides, the anime is missing some important dialogue
my opinion on iris kept changing during the case HSGSHS like she was so suspicious...but this scene made me really love her, she's honestly so sweet
I really thought they were getting back together after this moment.
That's why the Anime is discontinued.
I dont ship but its cute
Yeah iris and phoenix its much more a logical one. Maya is like brazers gone wrong.
Pearl just misunderstand maya and nick because pearls does not know much about outside world
Iris would make a great mom to Trucy.
I'm shipping it
i love this series so much
CRTITCAL HIT RIGHT IN THE F*CKING FEELS AAAGHH
Hearing 2001's Objection theme at the start of this scene really hits, up until Dual Destinies, AA 4 made it clear that the 2001 Objection was supposed to be Phoenix's Objection theme and many people consider 2004's Objection theme to be Mia's, I know Cornered makes a return even in the original game but damn do I love 2001's Objection theme, in T & T with how much you swap between characters I think this would have been the ideal game to bring it back.
Let Mia and Edgeworth have 2004's Objection or something, I like 2004's Objection theme but 2001 is just a classic you know?
I.. uhm.. object to this cute ship!
You see uh.. as a loyal wrightworth narumitsu shipper.. i cannot bear such a cute ship with phoenix! if only this ship didn't exist.. i wouldn't be question my ship right now ;-;
Objection!! even if that ship didn't exist, you still have to deal with the maya x phoenix ship
@@princesssara2123
Objection!
*gulpgulpgulpgulp*
Phoenix only sees Maya as a little sister, and so does Maya! Phoenix x Maya is pretty much impossible!
@@DiegoGonzalez-mc7mq objection sustained
OBJECTION! You can enjoy as many ships as you like no matter if it's with the same character! As long as you have fun and enjoy them!
HOLD IT!
i offer you mia x phoenix. also shipping both is valid.
I want to ship Iris and Phoenix but I can’t because if Maya!
Nooooo. Maya's like Phoenix's daughter or sister, don't ruin that pleasee
@@nicklewis470 nooOopp!
@@ionutmoldovan8501 Maya is 19 at this point. What the hell are you on about? Also she was already 17 when they first met, that's not underaged in Japan, 16 is the age of consent in Japan.
Honestly I never shipped Nick and Maya, I always say their relationship as big brother and little sister.
@@ppvsonicspy oh. I only played the first game but this came up on my recommended. And I also didnt know that the age of consent is 16 in Japan. Thanks a lot for telling me, I will now delete the comment
oh hurry up and hug her already attorney-san
So, i recently finished t&t for thw firat time and i can say that this two guys are the best ship on the series yet