Battle Of The BEST 62MAS Homages Under $200!

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  • Опубліковано 3 гру 2024

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  • @WristWatching
    @WristWatching  11 місяців тому +4

    Which one would/did you go with?

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  11 місяців тому

      @@hiphopdancer1315 thank you! #teamSeestern

    • @motischenker8409
      @motischenker8409 11 місяців тому +2

      This decision can be delayed untill the next big sale 😉

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  11 місяців тому

      @@motischenker8409 wait for the March anniversary sale. I’m sure there’s going to be great discounts then!

    • @isfbuster6733
      @isfbuster6733 10 місяців тому

      San Martin for me , i don't like the way the date wheel goes into the minute markers on the Seestern and i watched another review and it showed the date wheel wasnt centered properly in the window

    • @guignolification
      @guignolification 9 місяців тому

      The Seestern is the one I own for a year now, love the size and I am not a fan of the san martin logo. The bezel insert could be a bit more refined, but it is ok.

  • @stevea6725
    @stevea6725 11 місяців тому +6

    Perfect review. The variety of wrist shots including the profile shot help understand the fit. Keep up the great work!!

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  11 місяців тому

      Thanks so much! Glad it was helpful.

  • @danielcorrea3097
    @danielcorrea3097 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks for this excelent video. I was in doubt and after watch it just ordered a Seestern.

  • @madgpol
    @madgpol 5 місяців тому +3

    Just picked up the Seestern. Absolute strap monster and very well finished

  • @andyfrizzell4352
    @andyfrizzell4352 2 місяці тому +3

    The bigger San Martin for me. Just like the look better, a combination of the colour, thinner font on the bezel, hour markers look cleaner/ less bulky. Nice review

  • @msk3905
    @msk3905 2 місяці тому +3

    They both appear to be great value, well built and accurate so for me (as with all of my watches) it comes to the look. For me the seestern wording looks weird, I know many think the SM logo is goofy but i like it “comic sans” font but I prefer the SM.

  • @danschlacks7188
    @danschlacks7188 11 місяців тому +2

    Great review. I have 3 Seestern's, different colorways on FKM straps. Its a great watch, especially if you buy it on sale...I paid around $115 for each of mine. Have a great New Year!

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  11 місяців тому +1

      Thank you! I’m glad you’re enjoying them that much. For $115 it’s not just a steal, it’s daylight robbery haha. Have a great New Year too!

  • @johnrb9397
    @johnrb9397 11 місяців тому +1

    Excellent quality video you have made. Well done.

  • @czguy3045
    @czguy3045 3 місяці тому +2

    I have both. Grey Seestern and the blue-ish San Martin. I'm a dial guy. At a glance, I prefer the San Martin. I like the proportions/shape of the indices of the San Martin. I slightly prefer the hands of the Seestern and prefer the slimmer font of the 'Automatic' of the Seestern but definitely prefer the applied San Martin over the printed text of the Seestern. I highly prefer the font and overall look of the San Martin bezel insert. The lume on my San Martin is a step above that on my Seestern. I didn't order the San Martin with the bracelet but I definitely prefer the clasp of the San Martin. If I only wanted one, I'd lean about 60% towards the San Martin but when it comes to value, I only paid $115 or $120 for the Seestern on the bracelet and my San Martin with a rubber strap was $159 so in terms of pure value, the Seestern wins. I do slightly prefer the crown of the San Martin, both size and the sign. I really dislike that stupid starfish logo. I did just notice that San Martin now makes a guilt/gold version of the grey version of their 62MAS so I might pick up one of those on the next 11/11 sale. Great comparison. It is definitely close and as you mention, if you weren't comparing them both in hand, it would be a tossup. I have a 7.25" wrist so while I appreciate the difference on bracelets for some people, it's a non-issue with me and I do prefer how the male endlinks look.

  • @vuelanola8618
    @vuelanola8618 29 днів тому +1

    dial seestern is grey or black ?

  • @Gerardo_Alba
    @Gerardo_Alba 11 місяців тому +5

    Great review! I thought the SM would "win" this comparison, a surprise and a relief since my seestern's on the way 😂

  • @BTD1717
    @BTD1717 6 місяців тому

    Great video! Do you have any take on how Seestern's latest v4 62mas homage measures up?

  • @ChasingBarrels
    @ChasingBarrels 10 місяців тому +4

    Seestern looks fantastic. Great comparison, thank you. 13mm thickness is too thick for my taste. Would love it if they made a quartz option that was thinner.

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  10 місяців тому +4

      Thanks for watching! You might be on to something. A thinner version with a sweeping mechaquartz movement like the Seiko VH31 would be interesting to see.

    • @ChasingBarrels
      @ChasingBarrels 10 місяців тому +1

      @@WristWatching I would buy that in a flash!

    • @гивимамедов
      @гивимамедов 3 місяці тому

      Присоединяюсь, если есть что то подобное на кварце , расскажите

  • @medicenquillos
    @medicenquillos 11 місяців тому +1

    Dear Sr. What a great video! The listing of the Seestern says 14.5mm thick, but you described as 13mm, which one is the real one? Please help me, If you had to choose one, which would it be? This Seestern, the San Martin 6200 vintage homage, the Glashutte Seestern homage or a classic Seiko SKX013? I have a 6.5 inch wrist. Thank you so much in advance!

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  11 місяців тому +1

      Thank you so much! I’ve measured it at 13mm, I think the listing is incorrect. That’s a tough call because those are all great watches. I have the same wrist size and I’ve had all of those watches, but with the SKX007 instead of the 013. The Seestern 62MAS and San Martin 6200 wear the best, but the SKX013 is a legend. The Seestern SeaQ is fantastic too, but it wears a bit larger than the others. You can’t go wrong with any of them, I guess it depends on which look you like the best.

  • @DarthPlaya
    @DarthPlaya 10 місяців тому +2

    When determining which is best when it comes to watches, I admit I am heavily influenced by beat rate. Most (just about all) 62MAS homages are standard beat rates. Under $200 I've found that only Tandorio offers a high beat rate homage. If you're willing to spend a little bit more than $200 the Islander Northport is another really awesome 62MAS homage that's powered by a high beat rate movement.

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  10 місяців тому +1

      I’m a sucker for higher beat rates too, but the quality on these are levels above the Tandorios I had so I can accept the trade off. I’ve heard good things about the Northport. I reviewed the Islander Port Jefferson a while back and I was really impressed!

    • @DarthPlaya
      @DarthPlaya 10 місяців тому +1

      @@WristWatching Point taken, but we're going to have to agree to disagree on the quality. While I only have this one Tandorio to compare, I have over 1/2 dozen San Martins and Seesterns to compare it to and maybe I just got lucky but this Tandorio's fit and finish is as nice as any San Martin or Seestern I own. Making it's high beat movement a cherry on top the others don't have.

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  10 місяців тому

      @@DarthPlaya I’m surprised! The ones I’ve had were nowhere near that good. The case didn’t have crisp transitions, the bracelet was cheap, and there was no AR coating on the crystal. They must have stepped up their game-which is great!

  • @BruceWayne_213
    @BruceWayne_213 2 місяці тому

    This is how you make a video about head to head comparison, Love it! Now i just accidentally bought the Seestern because of you 😂❤

  • @ruelsky69
    @ruelsky69 8 місяців тому

    AWESOME REVIEWS, SUBSCRIBED!

  • @GGx1080ti
    @GGx1080ti 5 місяців тому

    Will seestern fit a slightly bigger wrist, like 18.5cm?

  • @Tom_Kowalczuk
    @Tom_Kowalczuk 11 місяців тому +1

    I went with Seastern some time ago (2 years maybe). Changed crystal to flat sapphire with AR as didn't liked curved halo effect. But didn't wore it this year at all due to crown digging into my hand. Found that Seiko 5 with crown at 3.8 are my watches to go.
    Also - great review from cinematic and attention to details on watches ! Top notch.

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  11 місяців тому

      Thanks so much, appreciate it! Do you happen to wear your watches on the wrist bone? I wear them above the wrist bone so the crowns don’t dig into my hand.

    • @Tom_Kowalczuk
      @Tom_Kowalczuk 11 місяців тому

      @@WristWatching
      I wish I could, my wrist are too fat 🙂

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  11 місяців тому +1

      @@Tom_Kowalczuk All good mate. Check out the Citizen Promaster NY0040/NY0085 too. The crowns on those are on the opposite side, they may work even better for you. 😉

  • @melschwartz5578
    @melschwartz5578 11 місяців тому +1

    Another cracking review buddy. If I was a watch guy I’d definitely snag that Seestearn no doubt.

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  11 місяців тому

      Thanks so much, my man! Aren't you a watch guy? 🤣

    • @melschwartz5578
      @melschwartz5578 2 місяці тому +1

      @@WristWatchingwell decided I am after all and just picked up the V3 Seestern after watching this video again haha. I hope my version comes with those female end links man.. God knows I need it ! thanks for the racun bro ❤

  • @idhamaljaroo4708
    @idhamaljaroo4708 4 місяці тому

    Great video!!! thanks mate. Anyone here with a 8 inch wrist size that owns the Seestern? I am wondering if there are going to be issues.....

  • @trevorhofmann1562
    @trevorhofmann1562 11 місяців тому

    This was a great review! I don't usually buy homages, but Seestern really has my attention with this one and the price is so reasonable it's difficult to pass up. You did such a thorough job here, there probably is no reason for a full review, but I'll leave that in your hands and would certainly watch it, and appreciate it if you manage to find something else to talk about. Thanks for shedding some light on a brand that I'm frankly surprised can compete directly with SM, let alone win.

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  10 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for watching! I was surprised too, but Seestern really outclassed San Martin with this model. It's a no-brainer for the price. You're probably right about not needing a dedicated review for the Seestern. I'll save that for a rainy day if the content bank dries up. 🤣

  • @scottwaldie4979
    @scottwaldie4979 11 місяців тому +2

    Good review. Too many compromises on the 'budget' version of the San Martin. A deserved win for the Seestern.

  • @s_buba
    @s_buba 11 місяців тому +1

    Timely video. I'm considering these two for purchase. Thickness of seestern is listed as 14.5mm on aliexpress. That why I've held back. You've listed 13mm.

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  11 місяців тому

      I had a feeling I wouldn’t be the only one struggling to decide. The Seestern listing is probably a mistake. I’ve measured it at 13mm with my callipers, same as the San Martin.

  • @retroluminico
    @retroluminico Місяць тому

    I have a dumb question: Wont be pointless a lumed date disk if the date changes at midnight? Im curious

  • @GalorOffroad
    @GalorOffroad 11 місяців тому +1

    Nice video 👍 I would take the Seestern with the bezel insert of the San Martin ^^

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  11 місяців тому +1

      Thank you! That would be the perfect combo.

    • @jayarreyes3601
      @jayarreyes3601 11 місяців тому

      8:35 I feel you Bro. The bezel insert look of the SM is top notch.

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  11 місяців тому

      @@jayarreyes3601 It just looks so CLEAN!

  • @bobsumm1
    @bobsumm1 11 місяців тому

    As usual, an excellent watch review.

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  11 місяців тому

      Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!

  • @watchmebuildit
    @watchmebuildit 10 місяців тому +1

    You’d be crazy to NOT review the Seestern. Well done! An amazing shootout video

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  10 місяців тому +1

      Thanks man! Haha I’ll add the Seestern review to the cue 🤣

  • @junesurfdog
    @junesurfdog 3 місяці тому

    review well done!

  • @d.nguyen2900
    @d.nguyen2900 10 місяців тому +1

    Could find any seestern 62mas V3 with that female endlinks 🤔

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  10 місяців тому +1

      Check out the listing on my description, that’s where I bought it from. They haven’t updated their list photos, but the latest batch has the female endlinks. All the latest reviews on that listing have it too.

  • @irfanciftci9323
    @irfanciftci9323 7 місяців тому

    @Wrist Watching Hello, is the dial of the Seestern watch gray or black?

  • @shukhamid3682
    @shukhamid3682 7 місяців тому

    Ive been eyeing on both of this 62mas homage. And i have watch numerous review and From what i see and learn. Getting both is the best idea😂😂😂.

  • @madvillain505
    @madvillain505 11 місяців тому

    saw your post on reddit, great review! do you think the seestern will go on sale again for the march shale?

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  11 місяців тому

      Thank you! I'm sure they'll go on sale during the March sale. They're going for a great price now, but if you wait for the March sale you might save a further $10-$20 or so.

  • @davidperkins605
    @davidperkins605 11 місяців тому

    I agree with you, what a fantastic watch, great review.

  • @andrewtaylor9799
    @andrewtaylor9799 8 місяців тому

    Good video! Really helped me understand that Seestern knows what they are doing - that brushed center on the hands is a feature that Christopher Ward also puts on their watches. Interesting wrist shots in the Comfort section: they show that the small 37 mm diameter of the Seestern actually looks well-sized on your 6.4 inch wrist. My wrist is nearly identical (about 6.36 inch), so this is very helpful. The wrist shots also make the watch look pretty great! By the way, Seestern claims their watch thickness is 13 mm. Did you measure the 14.5 mm thickness?

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  8 місяців тому +1

      Glad it was helpful! The Seestern would fit perfectly on you. I measured it multiple times at 13mm, but their listing strangely says 14.5mm. I have no idea why they haven’t fixed that error. 🤔

  • @Jason-hv4eu
    @Jason-hv4eu 11 місяців тому

    Excellent comparison video! Well done! I have been waiting for this video😊

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  11 місяців тому

      Thanks a lot! Hope it helps you make a decision. 😉

  • @johnswatchjoint
    @johnswatchjoint 11 місяців тому

    What a great head to head Harvind. Of course I will have to unsee all of this as per our conversation haha. Happy New Year 🎉 and we will speak more in 2024 😊

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  11 місяців тому +1

      Hahaha thanks John! I can't wait to see your head-to-head video. Have a happy new year too! 😆🎉

  • @panospeter_pan4257
    @panospeter_pan4257 11 місяців тому +1

    Sold my spb when I got the seestern. Felt closer to the original 62mas and it has better lume and bracelet and ceramic bezel. The 4r35 keeps better time than the 6r35 and that's very odd.

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  11 місяців тому

      That's eye-opening! I've been lusting after the SPB143 for over 2 years now, but I could never get myself to pull the trigger because of the movement issues. I didn't know the lume and bracelet weren't as good as the Seestern.

    • @adnanmalik7526
      @adnanmalik7526 11 місяців тому

      @@WristWatchingI sold my spb143 and got this San Martin. It is much better. You’re not missing out.

    • @panospeter_pan4257
      @panospeter_pan4257 11 місяців тому

      @WristWatching the movement has a bigger power reserve BUT is very inconsistent. The bracelet is not to justify the price difference. I own seikos,some affordable some more expensive. The mm200 is a better option,but still the 6r35 is there and it's a gamble. It's only microbrands for me. Waiting for a Wicked watch co phoenix these days.cant wait.

  • @AvidUTuber
    @AvidUTuber 8 місяців тому

    Excellent review, i just wish the Seestern was a bit larger (at least 41mm). On my 7.5inch wrist, it'll look like a little child's watch 😢

  • @rsg5850
    @rsg5850 2 місяці тому

    Gone with SN with blue enamel dial

  • @Mikeleangelo40
    @Mikeleangelo40 11 місяців тому

    I agree with you. I have both watches and seestern turned out to be a hit. The San Martin seems bigger than it really is, it has a narrower bezel and the watch face seems bigger. The dial itself looks like it would fit a watch with a 42mm size. The seestern has a wider bezel, the dial is more compact just like the seiko which gives it a lot of character. I'm so happy with the seestern that I don't know if any other watch manages to top it. Currently I am going to compare it with the squale 1545, previously I wanted to buy a christopher ward C60 Trident Pro 300 38mm watch but I can see from the pictures that it has a narrow bezel just like the san martin which I will not like. Seiko with its wide bezel and compact dial has created a watch with character that seestern has copied to such an extent that buying a seiko seems foolish. I am thinking of models like the spb213j1. The 6r35 mechanism sucks.

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  11 місяців тому +1

      Are we twins? I’m completely with you on all points, and I also want to buy that 38mm C60! This Seestern was a trial run for that watch and like you, it’s kind of put me off the CW seeing that has a thinner insert. I wish I could try out the CW in person to really get a feel of it, but until then, I’m probably going to look at a non-diver from their lineup.

  • @woozertoo
    @woozertoo 11 місяців тому +1

    paper test
    Paper Test
    PAPER TEST!
    (I hope you do this for your next review, Harvind) 😅

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  11 місяців тому

      Hahaha sorry mate, both these watches passed so I didn’t include the test in this video.

  • @Vicky-ne9mt
    @Vicky-ne9mt 6 місяців тому

    U r from usa or uk?

  • @rafaelacosta304
    @rafaelacosta304 2 місяці тому

    I like the San Martin dial better. Seestern marker are too wide

  • @manjiirmiya8383
    @manjiirmiya8383 6 місяців тому

    I prefer the seastern

  • @drebarthelotte5712
    @drebarthelotte5712 11 місяців тому

    Looks is san martin.
    Much more darker and not flashy.
    The big numbers on that small bezel watch looks off. I'm a lume pig but it takes away from daylight looking rather than nighttime looking.
    I do agree with you.

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  11 місяців тому

      I’m going to steal the term “lume pig” for future reviews. 🤣

  • @varghejo
    @varghejo 9 місяців тому

    Fun video

  • @knwr
    @knwr 8 місяців тому

    Are you sure that's a seestern v3? The v3 had male end links, the female were a v4 addition

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  8 місяців тому +1

      The Seestern store I got it from labelled it as a v3, but it came with the female end links.

    • @knwr
      @knwr 7 місяців тому

      @@WristWatching Hmm I wonder if that's the only difference between the v3 and v4 then, in which case that link would be the most recent version.
      Thanks for the information!

  • @tonydilucente2342
    @tonydilucente2342 Місяць тому

    Seestern all day long. Just better watches overall imo.

  • @goldfools5445
    @goldfools5445 11 місяців тому

    I am a SanMartin fan, in this case though, you made a fair call..

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  11 місяців тому

      I’m a huge San Martin fan too, but I had to be objective for this. Seestern aced their 62MAS homage!

    • @curtisbrown7991
      @curtisbrown7991 11 місяців тому

      Wish I had seen this review a week ago!! That Seestern looks the business, but the San Martin is on its way.

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  11 місяців тому +1

      @@curtisbrown7991 The San Martin is a great watch too. Honestly, you won’t notice many of the things in this video without the Seestern beside it, so don’t sweat it. Enjoy your new San Martin. 😉

  • @thriftshop2609
    @thriftshop2609 11 місяців тому +2

    Seestern

  • @motischenker8409
    @motischenker8409 11 місяців тому

    Thank you for choosing this topic! It's another great choice of watches, both of which are in my shopping cart, waiting for my decision.

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  11 місяців тому

      I had a feeling I was not the only one struggling with this decision. I hope this video helps you!

    • @ab-mb7wi
      @ab-mb7wi 10 місяців тому

      I happened to be wearing the San Martin when I saw this review. The Seestern looks really good. Fortunately, the lumed bezel and the edge of the crystal on the Seestern were negatives for me. So, I'm not kicking myself!

  • @dubcheck2943
    @dubcheck2943 8 місяців тому

    Seestern looks the better watch apart from the font used on the bezel. Looks too chunky for my taste.

  • @Elwin-w3v
    @Elwin-w3v 11 місяців тому

    I'll get it when it's on sale. About €110.

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  11 місяців тому

      At that price it’s a no-brainer!

  • @deedee8568
    @deedee8568 8 місяців тому

    Dangit. Wish I'd bought my Seestern a year later.

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  8 місяців тому

      Contact them to see if you can buy the new bracelet separately.

  • @BlendRexha
    @BlendRexha 3 місяці тому

    why my seestern has male endlinks

  • @patzguitarz
    @patzguitarz 11 місяців тому

    I liked the Seestern best until I saw the fully lumed bezel. That's a complete turnoff for me on a 62 MAS copy. I guess most everyone else wants full lume though.

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  11 місяців тому

      I get you. I wasn’t a fan of that too, but I was surprised by how practical it was. They have a non-lumed version too. Funnily enough, I only got this version because it was cheaper than their non-lumed version.

    • @adamw7411
      @adamw7411 6 місяців тому +1

      Never heard anyone complain about lumed bezel

  • @carlogalopo2605
    @carlogalopo2605 3 місяці тому

    Starting with the watch model version/name could've help a bit

  • @candyman1576
    @candyman1576 24 дні тому

    San martin เผลอๆคุณภาพดีกว่าseiko mas62แท้ๆสะอีกผมว่า

  • @qbaneando
    @qbaneando 4 місяці тому

    After 3-4 trips to the ocean the paint inside the indices of the bezel insert on my San Martin progressively faded away with each trip. While the out of the box impression is great don't expect much in terms of longevity. Also, the sapphire crystal is cloudy at certain angles, the reflections get in the way of seeing at the dial. It was a fun experiment to test out one of these Chinese factory brands but the product quickly went from wow to meh. After enjoying the look of the watch on my wrist I'm starting to justify the $3,500 for the SJE093.

  • @Aaron-fb1pq
    @Aaron-fb1pq 11 місяців тому

    I gotta say, you might as well just wear a replica at this point.
    That being said, these things look legit for what you pay.

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  11 місяців тому

      I don’t buy homages to pass them off as the real thing, so replicas are out of the picture. I have original Seikos, but they don’t offer the 62MAS style in the size I want and with female endlinks, that’s where homages like the Seestern come in. Getting a lumed bezel and date disc for this price are just the cherries on top of the cake.

  • @Vox-Populi
    @Vox-Populi 2 місяці тому

    I will not wear a watch with unnecessary sculptures on the back. They are so uncomfortable against my wrist. So the Seestern is out for me.

  • @sivanstar
    @sivanstar 11 місяців тому

    Seestern are doing great things! too bad this one is too small for my wrist. Im not a SM fan at all. asking 200$ and upwards for a watch with a ghost position is silly. I do not accept their excuses. USE THE APPROPRIATE MOVEMENT!
    I did get a 62 homage though. The Islander fireball 😍

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  11 місяців тому +1

      Wow, that Islander fireball is an eye catcher! Great choice. 🔥

    • @sivanstar
      @sivanstar 11 місяців тому

      @@WristWatching to be honest i still cant scratch the itch yet. I might have to get an actual 62 mas. Have you heard of the 62 darth mas?

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  11 місяців тому +1

      @@sivanstar I feel you. I’m pretty sure I’m going to pull the trigger on the Seiko SPB143 next year haha. I can’t seem to find anything about the 62 Darth MAS. Got a link to that?

    • @sivanstar
      @sivanstar 11 місяців тому

      @@WristWatching i love it but at that price ill look into a 2nd hand gs. Look up sbdc085. I think RR had one for review. Its design is either you like it or hate it.. 🤷‍♂️

  • @marcuschamp1460
    @marcuschamp1460 11 місяців тому +1

    ..... the category you didn't touch on was logo ....... the Seestern is OK ... the San Martin hexagonal logo is just horrible ..... I haven't bought a single SM since they adopted this eyesore .......... obviously many love it though .......

    • @WristWatching
      @WristWatching  11 місяців тому

      I took that into account and mentioned it in the dial category, but I didn’t feel it warranted a category in its own. I do hope SM moves away from this logo in the future.

  • @libertyisparamount1443
    @libertyisparamount1443 2 місяці тому

    san martin looks better, their logo is unbearable to me though

  • @lapomazza5635
    @lapomazza5635 8 місяців тому +1

    There is no such a thing as a BRAND called SEEEE-STERN, with a dizzy anglidiotic pronounciation: SEESTERN is a german name, and that means starfish. And the pronounciation is S - E like END, NOT E LIKE EVIL. Period. 😈🏁